#lcf official translation

[thevoicestellmetosteal]

Ok, I cannot keep this contained in me any longer, I'm gonna keep all the info after the break for those who are waiting for the English copy and want as little information as possible like I did but I just.

Of all the possible translations of nim they could have gone with. Why Mr????????

Like I can understand the Lord Cale translation. Do I still prefer keeping the original honorifics? Yes. But like, I can understand the Lord Cale, I can get used to that, it makes sense in context I guess.

But why did they translate Choi Han's Cale-nim, to Mr. Cale?????? To Choi Han's knowledge, Cale is 19. Choi han's age is more complicated, but no matter what age you consider him, calling a 19 year older Mr just doesn't make sense. Lord Cale would make way more sense but honestly, Mr feels so distant. Like i know they aren't exactly super close buddy buddy at this point in the novel obviously, but Mr is still a really weird thing to call a 19 year old if you are anyone above the age of like 14 max. Mr. Cale is some Ohn and Hong would say. Even just Cale would be better than Mr. Cale

Especially when they get closer like, you wouldn't call your close friend mister. But like, Choi Han does still have a high amount of respect and such for Cale so he still used nim, but like, English Mr. doesn't work that way. That's why is honestly be more fine with Lord because I can see that being said to someone you're close to more than Mr. It's just. It doesn't fit their relationship, and I don't see what they would change it to when they do get closer and while I did say just Cale is better than Mr. Cale, it's still pretty weird.

It also begs the question if how they'll deal with Hyung because older brother kinda holds the same value I guess? But it just doesn't have the same context and nuance. I honestly don't see why they can't just keep the honorifics and such in, and just have a glossary if they're worried about new readers not understanding what certain words mean, it'll keep the nuance without making things seem weird.

Also Albert is a terrible name choice for both a blue eyed blond haired man, and a dark skinned, brown haired brown eyed man, just saying. Even Alver is better than that, I can never agree with Albert

[murasaki-cha]

There is going to be a TCF Audiobook!?!?!

You're telling me I am going to be able to HEAR Cale Henituse coughing up blood!?!?!

It's what I've wanted all my life🥹🥹🥹🥹

[blueteller]

GUESS WHO FINALLY GOT THEIR BOOK

I'M PROBABLY THE LAST ONE ON THE PLANET BUT

IT IS HEEEEEEREEEEEEEE

[letcaleslack]

Name Changes between the Fan Translation and Official Translation

Fan Translation - Official Translation

PEOPLE

Kim Rok Soo - Kim Roksu Ron Molan - Ron Molran Beacrox Molan - Vicross Molran On - Ohn Basen Henituse - Bassen Henituse Lily Henituse - Lilly Henituse Venion Stan - Benion Sten Taylor Stan - Taylor Sten Cage - Kage Billos Flynn - Bilose Flynn Eric Wheelsman - Eric Whilsman Amiru Ubarr - Amir Ubar Lock - Lark Antonio Gyerre - Antonio Guiller Alberu Crossman - Albert Crossman Fog Cat Tribe - Mist Cat Tribe

PLACES

Puzzle City - Perthle Huiss - Whis Roan Kingdom - Rowoon Kingdom Breck Kingdom - Brek Kingdom Whipper Kingdom - Kingdom of the Whipper Forest of Darkness - Dark Forest Rain City or Western City - Weston The Fragrance of Tea with Poetry - Poetry and Tea House (Billos' tea shop)

ANCIENT POWERS

Vitality of the Heart - Energy of the Heart Indestructable Shield - Unbreakable Shield

OTHERS

Gallons - Galleons (currency)

ADDRESSING PEOPLE

Young Master, Young Lady - Lord, Lady Cale-nim - Mr. Cale (by Choi Han) Dragon-nim - Lord Dragon (by Rosalyn)

[pinkbalrog]

SEPTEMBER 3RD 2024 BITCHES!!!

[letcaleslack]

I'm really happy we're getting an official english translation. I want to support the author and I want to have a physical copy of my favourite story.

BUT

I wish we'd gotten real novels instead of light novels. I took a look at the korean novels and there you get a bundle of five beautiful hardcovers for just 88 USD (it's even on sale just now for just 80 USD).

And the english version? If Seven Seas really translates all of part 1 and each book covers about 42 chapters, that'll be about 18 books in total. The physical copy of book 1 cost 20 USD right now. For 18 books that'll be 360 USD. Luckily the ebook version only cost 10 USD, so 180 USD for all of part 1.

Of course Seven Seas has to cover the translation costs and while LCF/TCF is already popular in Korea it's largely unknown in the english-speaking world. They have a much higher risk that the english version won't sell well and they're mabye producing smaller charges which would also rack the price up. In Korea they could publish the whole of part 1 in one set because the fanbase is there but that's obviously not something Seven Seas can do. Publishing the story one thin book at a time is maybe their way of keeping the risk down?

But that contributes to the high price. It's obviously going to cost more to produce 18 thin novels (with maybe even some color illustrations) than to produce 7-8 thick novels. And I don't think this format makes sense with as long of a story as LCF/TCF is. If part 1 will be 18 books and part 2 will probably be nearly as long, then at the end we'll have 30-40 small books. That number of books just seems awkward.

I'm not a publishing expert, but I've never seen a regular book cost more than 25 USD for a hardcover. 20 USD for a small soft cover just seems really expensive to me. Plus for fans not living in the US, shipping cost will make it even more expensive.

I feel like the high price will stop fans from buying the official translation. Even though I really want a physical copy, now I'm tending toward just getting the ebook-version.

It's a pity that the english-speaking fans have to pay 4 times as much as the korean fans (360 USD compared to 88 USD). Right now the most economical way to support the author is to buy the korean books and just continue reading the unofficial translation.

The chapters list for the licensed novel for Lout of the Count's Family, so it's about up to chapter 42 of online on eap.

[corvidaes-crow]

In honour of the new LCF name spellings...

I think it's time we get a general survey of the fandom. Mostly because random statistics are fun, but also I just transitioned to official manhwa spellings and Albert reminds me of MTP.

So! What's your preference of name spellings to write/read in LCF fic? Which translation do you refer to? If you have a combination of spellings you prefer across the different translations and media, drop them in the replies!

[mytragedyperson]

Thoughts I had while reading TCF/LCF chapter 16

Quick note before I begin – the reason I call it TCF and not LCF is because that’s technically what I’m reading. I’m currently reading it on EAP. If there’s an official English version I can read feel free to point me in the direction of it but, since TCF is what it’s called on the site I’m reading it on, that’s probably what I’ll refer to it as. If this is a problem, please feel free to unfollow or block my posts but I don’t really refer to the book’s name at all in the actual posts though I do use names like Beacrox and stuff. I’m hoping this isn’t a huge problem for anyone, but I just thought I’d put that out there. This applies to all posts I make about TCF so I won’t repeat myself. As far as I know, there is no official translation, and it feels slightly wrong to use LCF because that’s not what the version I’m reading is called. This probably won’t change unless there’s an official English version. Just wanted to put this out there for those who care about this. Without further ado, I present to you, my thoughts

That right there, Cale’s “who will go if I don’t” perfectly sums up this character and why he does the things he does. Why does he mess with the white star so much? Who will if he doesn’t? why does he loot so many places? Who will if he doesn’t? why does he save so many people? Who will if he doesn’t? that might actually be one of the most consistent parts of his character. He does these things because, if he doesn’t, who will? No one else is gonna save the Black Dragon, or Paseton. They might try, if they knew but they don’t. so who will if he doesn’t? no one. And that’s not acceptable to him. This isn’t to say he’s the only one who would or could help people, just that, in most situations, he’s the only one who can.

And Venion is officially present. Wish he wasn’t but he is.

The fact that this utter waste of oxygen is considered a typical, authoritative noble is really sad. No wonder their world is doomed if this is a typical noble.

I feel like most villains are at least slightly smarter than Venion, honestly. Maybe not necessarily in this novel, idk about that, but villains in general. Most of them would know not to try and tame a dragon. I feel like that’s pretty basic common sense. You know what, yes, even the villains in this novel are probably slightly smarter at least. Even the bandits I was making fun of last chapter were smarter, though not by much. They had no way of knowing this carriage belonged to a noble travelling with a Choi Han and an assassin and a torture expert. Usually having the numbers game is an advantage. But my point is they didn’t know these things. Marquis Stan and Venion know this is a dragon, that’s the whole point. That makes them a lot dumber than the poor bandits who just chose the wrong carriage on the wrong day, imo.

One thing I do admire about Cale is his patience and ability to keep a calm ead even in front of something like Venion. I can’t call whatever he is a human, but calling him garbage or even human garbage is an insult to garbage and, considering OG Cale is supposed to be considered trash, that just feels more wrong. So Venion is a lot worse than living garbage, but calling him a monster feels like giving him more credit than he deserves and also is offensive to monsters so idk what he is. Also can we just think for a second about the fact that, in this novel, in this world, someone who drinks a lot and trashes places, has a worse reputation than the people torturing a baby dragon and watching it for amusement. Now, I know they’re not exactly adverting that fact but most people know he crippled (am I allowed to say that? Is there a better term? Idk, sorry) his older brother, and yet somehow more people hate or look down on OG Cale than Venion. Again showing that the typical nobles have some serious issue and skewed perspectives and priorities. You can do a horrible thing and everyone know you were responsible but, as long as you have status, power and appear like a normal noble, well, that’s just how it is. All this to say fuck Venion Stan, Marquis Stan and anyone who allies with him. Taylor is the only good person in that family and idc what anyone says about that.

Also I know the man was tortured but I don’t remember Choi Han punching him, and if Choi Han didn’t punch him, I think he should have, as a treat. He deserves it. Both of them do.

And nobles are supposed to have class and care for their people. I guess we’ve both been disappointed today. If someone has clearly fallen and you can see that, you stop. Get your head out of Venion’s ass. You can kiss it all you want, he’s still not going to respect you. sorry, I know he’s like a servant or something but that doesn’t make what he’s saying less asshole-ish. This is why we don’t associate with Venion. We become assholes if we do.

Also I know this isn’t the time but can we just take a second, before Venion or his lackey piss me off again, to admire this relationship, dare I say friendship, between Hans and Choi Han. The way he cares for him and doesn’t want him to get in trouble. I feel like Hans is definitely cheering him on on the inside and agrees with him but can’t say anything due to being a servant for the Henituse family. Hans and Choi Han friendship. I wish we saw more of this. I hope we do as the novel goes on, even if it's just a little. I want them to be besties. Idek why.

You know, I feel like it would be so easy for people to look at Hans and just see him as dumb or something but he’s not. It’s not his fault no one tells him anything. He actually has a decent amount of knowledge on things, like the noble families and what he says about the rock towers and stuff. He’s not dumb, he’s just working with the information he has.

So they were trying to get Choi Han in trouble, right? And it probably would’ve worked, except Cale saw everything and is a generally good person so agrees with Choi Han’s actions… except doesn’t this look worse for Venion? Like, another noble, and someone travelling with that noble, who is known for being trash, shows more care and compassion for this guy than Venion. It definitely reflects badly on the Tolz family, or at least it should, that a noble from another territory, who is known for being trash, is kinder and less intimidating and cares more about your people than you do. Like, I know this is unlikely but I feel like, if ever this bar/inn owner heard someone talk trash about Cale he’d be like idk he isn’t that bad. You know he actually stayed here once, one of his guards saved my life, and would kinda defend him a little, but he wouldn’t do that for Tolz. If a good way to tell what nobles are like is to look at how people in their territory act, then the fact this guy wouldn’t defend Venion or Tolz from criticism but arguably would defend Cale says more about Venion and Tolz than anything really. Especially after Cale becomes Young Master Silver Shield.

I may be wrong but this is the first time we see Cale actually mad/genuinely annoyed by someone right? For all he says Hans annoys him, he’s actually never seemed particularly annoyed at Hans. And everyone/everything else he’s been more surprised or scared than mad. He wasn’t even annoyed when he was brought to this world. On one hand I get it, I’m angry at Venion too. I just think it’s interesting to note.

Cale really thinks about everyone, even this old man.

Idk why but Something about Cale right now, the way he tells Choi Han to calm doen is so attractive to me. Maybe it’s how calm and level headed he is, maybe it’s how in control he seems. Idk. Also not important but in my head I don’t see red haired Cale Henituse, I see black haired KRS and idk why.

You know who I think of when I remember Venion? Years ago, when I first got Facebook I’d stumble across photos of like hunters posing with animals they’d just killed and looking so proud of themselves, and it always just filled me with anger and confusion. Like, I’m not a vegetarian or vegan but something about that just seemed so wrong to me. Venion reminds me of a worse version of those people. So pleased to see an innocent animal hurt and proud of themselves for having something to do with it.

When I tell you that reading this man’s torture/punishment scene will be so satisfying to me. He deserves so much worse than he got.

No he stole the carriage. He’s never even heard of Count Henituse. And those knights are paid actors. Why do people insist on asking obvious questions? To start conversation? There must be a better conversation starter than that. Honesetly how Cale hasn’t rolled his eyes at this amazes me. He doesn’t even think the sarcastic thing. I simply couldn’t do that.

I think Venion has bigger problems than being rude.

It makes sense that most people would just naturally be disgusted by him actually. Humans in general typically have fairly good instincts. We can kind of sense when others are terrible human beings. Obviously it isn’t perfect but it is there. The people who follow him probably either fear him or are just as terrible but if most people hate him, it’s probably not just because he’s rude. Venion would probably be too arrogant to pretend to be someone he’s not, so his bad traits would be fairly obvious and I think, when someone is this horrible, they can’t fully hide it anyway. He may not be advertising the Black Dragon thing but there is so much wrong with him and he has so many bad traits it would be impossible to hide them fully, if he even bothered to in the first place.

I don’t get how he’s convinced himself any version of Cale is somehow worse than him. The worst thing OG Cale did was probably what he said to Choi Han, that didn’t happen this time, so the worst he’s done is get drunk and trash some bars and shops. Meanwhile Venion has permanently injured and plans to murder his older brother, and is regularly entertained by a child, no, a toddler getting tortured. He needs to be smacked back down to, well, not earth, whatever their world is called.

Again, still don’t get how Venion would ever look like the better or superior one in this situation. His carriage nearly ran someone over, his lackey berated the person who saved the guy they nearly hit, and then he randomly tried to start shit with another noble and insulting him in public, when the other noble hadn’t actually said or done anything to anyone. No matter how you put it, Venion is the asshole in this situation, and everyone would see that so idk what superiority he thinks he’s showing here.

See Cale gets it. Why ask something you already know about? Oh so he can point out Cale is trash. pOk the trash is still like the least problematic person in this situation so really it just makes you look worse. Btw not saying Choi Han is problematic or anything, hopefully you get my point, it’s a rare occasion of Cale being the best behaved from the outside. Is behaved a word? If it wasn’t it is now.

Idk I think Cale’s doing pretty well at being a noble and this type of talk. If that was me I’d just be rolling my eyes every time Venion spoke.

Also fuck Marquis Stan. He’s just as responsible for Taylor and The Black Dragon and is a shit father and noble. He should’ve been tortured just as much as Venion. Idc.

Is the three other children including Taylor? Because if not 3 siblings and either none of them know or none of them care about the dragon being tortured. I’d like to give them the benefit of the doubt but idk if I can.

Ok so it doesn’t include Taylor.

And none of them care that the oldest brother was crippled by their other brother? Not one? Man, what is up with this family? Why do they all suck so much? Taylor deserves batter.

Imagine if KRS was transmigrated in the Stan family instead. He’d hate them so much but I feel like their downfall would come even quicker, and he’d still help Taylor and Cage because he doesn’t want to be the Marquis. He could even tell them about the black dragon to help Taylor take down his family. And he’d still be in the capital so be able to help with the plot. Can’t decide how he’d get the Shield, but idk, could be fun.

Kinda love how he refers to it as our family already. That’s cute.

Tbf I don’t think nobles not wanting to Take / associate with Deruth’s territory has much to do with it being greedy, because even if it would be greedy, what are the chances the other nobles would all care. It’s probably more to do with the Forest of darkness. Whoever’s responsible for Henituse territory is responsible for watching the Forest of Darkness and, let’s face it, most nobles won’t want that responsibility. Like looking greedy might be some nobles’ concern, but at least one noble family wouldn’t care about that.

This bitch really had the audacity to try and compare himself to Basen? Please those are two completely different relationships. Basen isn’t a complete psychopath/narcissist. And for that matter Cale isn’t Taylor. And did he really just try to call Taylor the trash eldest son and himself the pretty smart younger brother? God he’s delusional. It’s so much worse than I remembered. Delusional, arrogant, dumb, pathetic, horrible. There’s not a single good quality about this guy. Also claims he’s smart but doesn’t realise that Cale dislikes him, dare I say hate him, more than he hates Cale, but that could also be arrogance so idk.

If Venion didn’t like me and compared me to Taylor I’d take that as a huge compliment actually.

Hate to point this out again but he failed to appear as a proper noble when his carriage nearly ran someone over and his lackey blamed that person. Doesn’t seem very proper to me but what do I know? Maybe that is proper behaviour.

Also all these people just heard you call this man a waste of time and an obstacle. I know that some rich people do see poorer people like this but surely this is one of those things that, as a noble, you’re supposed to think but not say out loud? I know they’re not your people but it still seems wrong. Also wouldn’t it appear to most outsiders that he only told his lackey to stop because he realise another noble was there and he wanted to look good in front of him. Again, there’s no way Venion actually realistically comes out of this looking morally better or superior in any way to Cale.

You can practically hear the disgust in Cale’s thoughts. That’s truly impressive.

Don’t worry Venion. Cale did a very good job of teaching his people that distinction. Although his idea of people who have a right to walk this earth may differ from yours. Also again he just very publicly stated that this man, who hasn’t actually done anything wrong, doesn’t have the right to walk the earth or whatever… because he’s not a noble I guess?  Honestly, can you imagine a noble in our world saying this shit like in present time? I mean not much would happen lbr but everyone would at least be like we hate you, that’s a disgusting thing to say.

Also is now a good time to admit I have no idea how nobility actually works and therefore have no clue of the hierarchy?  Ok so google has informed me that Marquis is higher than Count and now I’m sad that a dragon torturer has a higher rank than Count Henitus, and say what you want about him, but at least he actually cares about his people to the best of his ability with the knowledge he has.

That’s offensive to dogs. At least sometimes when they yap it’s for a good reason, usually not but sometimes. (I’m not hating on dogs, I love dogs, I have two dogs, but they do tend to bark for no reason)

I don’t think there’s actually a word for how much I hate this man. Hate and despise come close but feel too weak a word. loathe maybe but every time I think of the word loathe or loathing I think of the song from Wicked, and that song could so easily go the complete opposite direction. Maybe abhor but again these words feel too weak. They don’t fully capture the anger, the disgust, the complete inability to find even one good thing about him.

What I’d give to see Choi Han punch him, just once.

The Tolz family also seem like idiots but they also seem too pathetic to actually hate? Like they just go along with keeping a dragon on their territory and letting the Marquis torture it there? Dumb, dumb as hell. I’d feel sorry for them but they brought it on themselves and so instead I look about them in about the same way I imagine most people look when they see Florida Man in the news, just a why would you do that? Confusion but still more angry than I probably would be at most Florida men or similarly stupid people in the news. A more confused version of the anger I feel when there’s a child abuse story in the news and one of them is like oh but I didn’t abuse them, when there is proof they knew it was happening and were fine with it/amused by it/encouraging it or just didn’t care. You know what I change my mind I do hate the Tolz family, just less than Marquis Stan and Venion. But yeah fuck the Tolz family too. Being pathetic and dumb is no excuse honestly.

Cale needs a reward  or something purely for not punching this man.

Also can we tak a second to discuss the difference in anger and how it’s expressed by Choi Han and Cale. The best way I can put it is Choi Han’s anger is like fire, right? It’s heated, passionate, comes on and spreads quickly and suddenly, is very destructive, hard to stop and contain, though it can be, and is harder to hide. Cale’s anger is like water, like the ocean. It’s cold, he looks very calm on the outside, so you don’t realise he’s angry, but under the surface he’s raging. I’ve always thought the ocean was beautiful and at the same time thought it was one of the most terrifying things there is, and not just because I can’t swim. With fire, the danger is there, it’s obvious, you know it’s dangerous, you know if you touch it you’re gonna get hurt, you’re gonna get burned, and that leaves a permanent mark. But the ocean isn’t like that, the danger isn’t as obvious, at least if you can swim, you could go in the ocean a million times and be just fine, and then one day you get stuck in the wrong tide, and you try to fight against it but you can’t. and there’s so much we don’t know about the ocean, so much mystery surrounding it, a lot of stories, some true, some not true. And the most dangerous thing about the ocean is how peaceful it looks, how calm, how it lures you in. even though I know I can’t swim, I still feel the urge, when I see the ocean, to just jump in, even though I know that would be a very bad idea. A lot of this applies to Cale, there are a lot of stories and rumours about him, he looks more calm than he is, he draws people in, a lot of those people survive and are just fine, but some get dragged away by the tide. The thing is fire and water, with all these differences, still have similarities: they both can hurt/kill you, and they can both be suffocating, and they’re both pretty to look at but can hurt you if you’re not careful. And that just feels so similar to Choi Han and Cale to me. Plus Cale managed to calm Choi Han down, a bit like water can douse a fire and put it out. Cale is water, Choi Han is fire, they’re both forces to be reckoned with and Venion pissed both of them off. He played with fire multiple times but he also earned the ocean’s fury, and an angry ocean… well, we all know how terrifying, how dangerous, that can be. This turned out more poetic than I intended so I’m gonna go ahead and move on.

Again he’s awfully judgy for someone who gets his kicks from torturing a 4 year old.

Cale subtly messing with Venion by purposefully using the hand he helped the old man with to shake Venion’s hand. Also the fact Cale is more disgusted to touch Venion and Venion doesn’t realise it.

also is the lackey a servant? I thought they were but idk. Oh well, not important

Cale’s ability to say these things without giving away that he’s lying is truly impressive.

Oh good, Venion’s gone. I apologise that this one is more angry/less positive. I just can’t stand Venion or people like him.

Cale: lowkey rants about everything wrong with the interaction with Venion

 also Cale: I’m not that angry though

maybe not angry necessarily but he is very much disgusted. Even then he is a little angry, which is fair

again don’t get how exactly Cale would look bad in this situation, especially when compared with Venion

honestly Choi Han and Cale’s conversation here is actually great. Cale almost comforts Choi Han, and shows that he understands how Choi Han feels and where he’s coming from, and he agrees with him. He validates Choi Han so much but his plan to destroy Venion is different. Choi Han could and would beat Venion up, maybe even kill him, but Cale, Cale takes the things he and the Marquis care about the most, their status, their power, their image, their money. For people like Venion and the Marquis that’s much more devastating than a beatdown they could recover from and use as ammunition. And then he doesn’t even really ask or demand Choi Han helps him, he offers, gives him the chance to decide or agree to help on his own, and it’s such a subtle difference, but an important one nonetheless. Also don’t think either of them realise but they’re already besties at this point.

Choi Han is such a delight

Here’s the thing, Cale was already pissed at Venion before they even met and now he’s made him even angrier. i don’t think anyone can help him now. Like he was already beyond help but, now, it’s not just I’m going to punish you for what you did to Raon. It’s I’m going to do that and I’ll enjoy every second of tearing you apart and watching you be clueless I’m responsible until it’s too late. God I love that version of KRS Cale. Kinda want a dark Cale fic now. Not necessarily a villain but also kinda. Same Cale, just wants his people safe, but if anyone regardless of the side their on messes with his people they get the same treatment as his enemies, whether they’re a hero, villain, neutral. And where he enjoys bringing them down as well. Idk the idea of dark KRS Cale is so interesting to me. And slowly the characters around him become just as dark. Like he simply can’t lose anyone else so if anyone poses even the slightest threat to his people, they’re very quickly dealt with. Anyway not important

[noblegrace]

LCF Readers I have a question

Is there an official English translation of Lout's of the Count's Family and The Laws of the Hunt ?

I really want to catch up with the laws of the hunt and also to support the author.

I hope you can help me (˃ᆺ˂)

[web-novel-polls]

Heyyo! Very small nitpick about the rarepair tournament that you're free to ignore but I thought maybe you might not be familiar with the source material so a correction might not be entirely unwanted.

So you list og AlCale as "original cale henituse x original alver/alberu crossman" and I just wanted to let you know that there is no "original alberu". Original Cale Henituse is totally appropriate because he is a character who's body was transmigrated into but Alberu had no such body-swap. Therefore "original" is informing the reader that you mean the character pre-transmigration. As an example that you might be more familiar with "orginal cale henituse" would equal Mo Xuanyu and "(krs)cale henituse" would equal Wei Wuxian. The TCF fandom can be a bit complicated to understand because unlike in MDZS where WWX strongly maintains his own name, Kim Rok Soo (the person who takes og cale's body) takes on Cale's name and barely refers to himself by his real name. So "original" is strictly so that the fans can understand that you are not referring to KRS when you say the name Cale Henituse.

Since Alberu Crossman is never possessed, it's really weird to see 'original' next to his name like that. It's possible that you're strictly referring to pre-regression Alberu and if so, it would be more appropriate to say "TBOAH Alberu" but I wouldn't recommend that. From what I can tell, the people who ship og AlCale tend to ship OG Cale with Alberu both pre and post regression and it's a bit pointless to define "tboah Alberu" and "tcf Alberu" as a different person because he just isn't, he's just the same person at different stages in his life (think if someone were to define Lan Wangji as a different person pre and post WWX death, it'd be weird right?). Og Cale is 100% a different person than krs!Cale (krs being the person who transmigrated into his body) but Alberu is just Alberu.

Anyway I just thought I'd correct it because it makes it sound to casual viewer as though Alberu was also possessed at one point and someone is wearing his body like a meat-suit like with Cale and that just didn't happen lol.

(also you're free to use alver / alberu interchangeably, it's the same name just translated differently but fair warning that if you're on twt they'll get mad at you for using "alberu" so it's safer to use alver on that site. alver is the official translation and alberu is the fan translation)

*Transmigration is being used as a catch-all term for reincarnation, regression, etc.

I actually read a good portion of the manhwa a few years(?) ago (the novel’s on my to-read list after ORV & SCTIR, so I’ll get to it in 10 years if I’m quick) & they’ll never convince me that man’s name is Alver. This is my jungkook. I accepted Lout of the Count’s Family as the official title because a carrd guilt-tripped me into it, but Twitter will never take Alberu from me. Yu Ryeo Han could come to me & say his name is Alver, and I won’t believe it. Which is all besides the point lol

Anyway, you were right about both wordings being submitted - Og!Cale/Og!Alberu & Original Cale Henituse x Alver Crossman. I’ll change it to be more neutral since I agree the difference between TBOAH Alberu and LCF Alberu isn’t as important for a poll, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen “original” as inherently meaning a character’s been transmigrated*? I’ve only really seen it used to differentiate characters from the “original” world & the characters from the main story. 

For example, in The Scum Villain’s Self-Saving System, Shen Qingqiu transmigrated into the novel Proud Immortal Demon Way, where Luo Binghe becomes the Emperor of the world. This Luo Binghe (Bingge) is often referred to as “original Luo Binghe” & is narratively a different character from the current Luo Binghe (Bing-mei). The situation might be a bit different in LCF (I’ve heard the transmigration situation is hella fucky), but characters being the same person is not always the same as them being the same character, especially if they’ve dramatically changed in some way (see: ORV). Environment & experiences change ppl and all that. 

It’s actually pretty interesting seeing transmigration* described in linear terms (“pre and post regression,” comparing it to WWX’s death, “different stages of his life”) because my experience with almost every transmigration* story is that they’re two or more separate worlds/timelines. I think Alberu grows and changes as a character throughout the story (which admittedly I haven’t read a large percentage of), experiencing things he never did within TBOAH, and the distinction between characters of separate timelines is often used for characterization within fandom, not in the technical sense of a character. Transmigration* often has the main character befriending and changing characters, especially villains, and “original” best describes the difference imo

I guess it could confuse people not familiar with the genre, but honestly, I think it’s just easier to explain in case they do go on to read more isekai/transmigration/reincarnation stories. I think “the Alberu from the timeline where the main character didn’t transmigrate (the Birth of a Hero novel) is sometimes called TBOAH or original Alberu to differentiate from our Alberu” is fairly simple? Idk I got very distracted writing this

[thevoicestellmetosteal]

IVE GOT IT

So far I've only skimmed it and I have some..... opinions, but I'll make a seperate post with spoiler warnings for that later. Fyi, these are all in good fun, no real hate to the translators, at least not at this point, I do know sevens seas translators have done some interesting things in the past......

I'll enjoy it for now. At least the cover art is pretty.

Kinda want it in Korean honestly......

[murasaki-cha]

*RISES FROM THE VOID BY CLAWING MYSELF OUT*

OH MY GOD VOLUME 2 COVER!!!!

[blueteller]

So, while I'm impatiently waiting another week and a half for my book... I got some interesting behind-the-scenes information?

I won't get into the topic just yet, but... it's regarding the name changes.

Some of which are for the better, in my opinion. Some, I'm completely neutral towards. Some, I cringe and gather my resolve to pretend it doesn't exist or bother me.

In any case, what I learned... makes sense, and will hopefully help me judge the new translation with less of a bias. We shall see! Right now, I am very optimistic :)

[letcaleslack]

And the name changes persist ...

"Jed" instead of "Zed"

PLEASE, translators and staff at Seven Seas, I know you want to differentiate between the fan translation and the official translation, but does every minor character's name have to be changed?

Also interesting fact: The translator has changed.

The first novel lists Henry Shin and Lauren Na as translators. The second one Henry Shin and two others:

No idea what this means or if the change will even be noticeable when reading the book.

[salaapaoo]

it's been a while since i've been on here!! I've been p busy w school >< but i got tagged !! by @fanfiction-artist-prototype for 20 questions!! 1. how many works do you have on ao3? I have 16! but a bunch of wips hidden in my docs hehe 2. what's your total ao3 word count?

144,014!! I feel proud bc it's been,,, almost a year since i started?? I haven't really had time to write lately though :<

3. what fandoms do you write for? hmm... only lcf so far, but i wanted to write for sss class revival hunter !! but i need to catch up and brain rot harder!!!

4. what are your top 5 fics by kudos?

young master, you dumb bitch

puppy teeth

in the comfort of death

death's little reaper

teeny tiny trouble

5. do you respond to comments? why/why not?

I usually do!! I feel kind of bad tho bc I see comments and then tell myself that i'd just respond later, but then forget.... hhh i will respond to them eventually ;;

6. what's the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending?

hm.. there's only a few that are done... so i guess i'll say what i think will have the angstiest once i'm done?? I think it might be between mr forgettable, witcher's calamity, or comfort of death???

7. what's the fic you wrote with the happiest ending?

uhm.... i feel like a lot of mine don't really have happy endings??? hhh

8. do you get hate on fics?

no ! i'm really happy with that! i feel like the fandom is really nice tho heh

9. do you write smut? if so, what kind? :] yes,,, uh theres.. some out there

10. do you write crossovers? what's the craziest one?

i don't write crossovers hhh mostly because i would worry about trying to keep even more charas in character ;; brain too rotten w lcf

11. have you ever had a fic stolen?

not that i know of ??

12. have you ever had a fic translated?

yeah! i had one translated into russian!! that reminds me,, i should probably add a link to that to the summary or smth ghksjhg

13. have you ever co-written a fic?

hmmm officially on ao3, no, but i would consider a lot of my fics cowritten w my friends because would end up brainrotting together so hard that it would end up mostly written!! so if i end up writing it, i usually end up dedicating it to them or smth

14. what's your all time fave ship?

hmmm,,, im not too picky??? i usually like eating them all

15. whats a wip you want to finish but doubt you will?

hmm... im a bit worried about finishing comfort of death ?? i want to finish them all!! but for comfort of death i'm a bit worried because i know how i want it to end but the in between hhhh uughgggh having to connect it ughghghg we're still far out!!

16. what are your writing strengths?

my friend said that my writing felt nostalgic and like heheh that makes me feel proud!! smth abt how i desc scenes, so i think that's a thing i'm really proud of !!

17. writing weaknesses?

i think the fact that i don't like rereading is a big weakness because i'll read it again after a long ass time and then see so many errors!! I think i have a lot of run on sentences, too!!

18. thoughts on writing dialogue in another language? i don't think i'm too confident on writing dialogue in another language!! I would probably just put it in italics and say its being done hhh or if i do, then i'd want it checked by someone who speaks it

19. first fandom you wrote for?

lcf!

20. fav fic you've ever written?

mmmm that's hard... but i think i'm really attached to like, teeny tiny trouble or maybe witcher's calamity? theres a few hidden ones that i'm actually really attached to !! i hope to have more time to write soon!!

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tagging

@vveirdnobdy uuh,,, idk who to tag??? whoever wants to join?

[okayplanetary]

Crown Prince • Alver Crossman