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Robin Lakoff - Language and Woman's Place - Harper Colophon - 1975
#witches#women#occult#vintage#language and woman's place#language#woman's place#harper colophon#robin lakoff#1975
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More heavy breathing for 2025
This type of heavy breathing 😮💨
#black woman#black men#intimacy#if he dies he dies#if i die i die#a place to sit#bearded seat#amberthickk#my love language
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anyway i'm always fascinated by the people who think that trans men transition purely to escape misogyny and gain social capital. idk how it is for other people, but since i transitioned i have not only experienced more misogyny than i ever did before but also lost access to the public spaces and support systems that might have helped me deal with it
#the people on here who claim that trans men have male privilege are also fascinating to me.#i experience the exact same marginalisation i experienced when presenting female#except it now comes with extra steps#i am not more likely to be hired or promoted; my opinion is not more likely to be respected#my rights and freedoms are even more restricted than they were before and i still get harassed on a regular basis#my body is still a topic of political debate and my voice is still silenced#i still feel obliged to control my appearance and clothing and body language in order to be treated with respect#and i can't even talk about it because i'm not a woman and therefore have no place in The Conversation#i don't regret transitioning but if you think that i'm getting any kind of privilege out of it you're mad
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The fact that Emilia Perez got 13 Oscar nominations while Beetlejuice 2 didn't get any is kinda insulting. Like I would have thought that at the very LEAST Danny Elfman's score would have gotten nominated. Or at least the costumes and visual effects! This is a movie using PRACTICAL effects in a very creative and visually gorgeous way in the age of CGI. The creativity alone that went into this film deserves all the recognition. Like, the score might not have won when they have a whole highly popular and wildly successful musical to compete with this year, but the visual effects! That deserved at least a nomination. Like, don't come at me.
For forever I've thought the Oscars are rigged and fake, but now I am convinced. lol
#Beetlejuice#Beetlejuice Beetlejuice#Danny Elfman#Tim Burton#Seriously Tim Burton deserved a nomination#Don't tell me “cry about it” because I swear I'll insta-block your ass lmao#Emilia Perez is an embarrassment#I have watched the clips where they sing in the most awful Spanish ever#Like that song Selena Gomez sings is embarrassing#the spanish I mean#I have the very unpopular opinion that she did GOOD with what she was given#Listen my native language is Spanish#whoever the fuck wrote the Spanish dialogue and song lyrics was either AI or they didn't know a lick of Spanish#The way the dialogues and lyrics didn't make sense even for us hispanics lol#The MOST embarrassing thing is how there's a whole ass song called “Bienvenida” when she clearly should be saying “De nada”#Bienvenida means “welcome” when a woman arrives at a place you tell her Bienvenida lol if it's a guy it's Bienvenido#Or you could say Bienvenida as in “the welcoming” “le damos la bienvenida” means “we welcome (x thing)” 😂#“De nada” means “you're welcome”#which is what I THINK Selena was singing about in that nonsense song#She is singing about how she took care of the kids etc and then she says “bienvenida!” but she should be saying “De nada!"
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Its not a shock to me that most "transandrophobia doesn't exist" people are trans women, mostly white trans women. They have a very specific image of what a trans man looks like and it's only two categories: the hyper fem, tits out, make up, twink trans man who doesn't pass nor try to and the hyper masculine, bearded, t'd up, all the surgeries, big buff trans man who you could never clock. They genuinely think every "transandrophobia truther" is lieing about not getting privileges they don't fucking have.
They genuinely believe every trans man passes and therefore we get male privilege and they get backed up by trans men who do pass and think a cis man making rape jokes with them and asking about their lift set is male privilege. Lemme shatter the illusion because as much as you like to scream about some wide spread privilege that doesn't exist, most trans people, in general, do not pass. This is especially true for trans men due to the hyperfocus society puts on feminine features. I have never met a fully passing trans man and I've met over a hundred personally irl. never. I know they exist but the fact y'all think we, en masse, get male privilege is factually just fucking wrong.
Trans men are not more acceptable or palatable to transphobes. Trans men are not more likely to pass. Trans men in mass do not get male privilege by virtue of our lack of passing and our medical history. Most trans men are still affected by the gender pay gap and thus can not afford surgeries.
You do not acknowledge the existence of non-passing trans men, only uphold the voices of trans men who pass and have the money for surgeries (a small percentage) then wonder why trans men laugh in your face when you make claims about male privilege we do not experience.
We are more likely to be conversionally raped than you. We are more like to be forcibly detransioned than you. We are more likely to experience domestic violence than you. We are more likely to experience hate crimes than you.
Trans men's hyper visibility in online spaces dose not transfer to real life visibility. You are more likely to see white cis gay men and white trans women in any media or ever mentioned than even white cis lesbians or white trans men. Your rhetoric is the origin of the "theyfab" myth. Our issues are invisible to you cause you do not care about other trans people besides yourself and other transfems. Everyone and their trans mother knows about transmysogny and the issues you personally face yet you expect trans men to be silent about their issues and feel like they should be silent because they are men. Trans men are more likely to experience litterally all forms of violence over trans women in every single avenue of violence that exists; religious, sexual, domestic, familial, etc. We are more likely to be stopped and abused before we socially transtion than anyone else due to hyper vigilance of society over afabs. You can scream all you'd like about how we only bring up our sex/the gender we are often raised as when it's convenient but you always ignore those often traumatizing experiences when it's convenient for you.
Many Transmascs and trans men had a traumatizing upbringing because society views us as "bad women" and " bad women" get treated so much worse and by many more angles than "bad men" specifically because we were forcibly assigned as women. You take advantage of a lack of nuance in the community by trying to group us with cis men specifically because you group yourself with cis women. News flash, neither of us and our experiences should be grouped with ANY cis group because we do not have cisgendered experiences.
I seriously think you think you are the most oppressed group in the trans community and you are not, not by a long shot. You are not the most oppressed group in the transgender community and that's a statistical fact. The most oppressed group, by far, are two spirits and cultural genders by virtue of them being inherently indigenous and indigenous people being the most oppressed race of people in the community regardless of the location they are indigenous to.
You are literally taking advantage of the things that were drilled into transmascs at a young age to be seen and not heard and to be quiet and let others talk, that they are lesser than everyone. Everyday there's a new story in the community of a cis man or a trans woman getting a trans man/masc pregnant to hurt them or force them off t or to detransion, this is not a fucking accident. You are not men, no one ever said you were, but you sure love to silence them like they do.
I'm not quiet, you do not intimately know our issues the same way we do not intimately know yours, You don't get to tell us what we do and don't experience and the fact you'd rather cry wolf and suspiciously call us "bitches" than hear us out, tells me everything i need to know. That alt right to trans woman pipeline you said you escaped? Yeah, you didn't. Ur just an alt right trans woman, Try Again.
#levi speaks#people who arnt transmasc stop trying to claim you know transmasc experiences enough to say they are bs challenge#i see transandrophobia daily and i see their issues never addressed#theres a huge issue involving transmascs being raped to make them pregnant and stop their transition#its mostly cis men but ive seen multiple abusive transfems do it too and they dont talk about it#its like its a dirtt word like they cant acknowledge their own but expect us to apologize daily for the existence of kevin garrah#a trans man that wasnt remotely blair white Caitlyn jenner-ing up the trans community and disappeared 7 fucking years ago#curious why you guys keep haeping on our one guy when every week theres a new white transfem on my fyp#talking about the woke cult and how shes the only good one#then 3 weeks later apologizing cause the leopard ate her face#im not blind i notice a pattern#its always white trans women and cis gay men acting the fucking fool and i dont think thats an accident#i dont think theres no common thread#i still think they are women i also think they are still white and still think they have some masculine invincibility to criticism#then get shocked they arnt treated as darling princesses by the racists and transphobes they try to appeal to#i do think people that claim transandrophobia isnt real are doing so from a place of mysogny#wether thats internalized or not#they always sound like fucking reddit incels#just listening to the language they use when they talk about transmascs and cis women only tells me their fave podcaster is joe rogan#just bleeds pewdiepie asmongold ben shapiro nonsense#and then cry and point at you like every other white woman with her tears when you point it out 😂#i do not think most transfems are part of this issue#i do think they have general ignorance about issues facing the transmasc community but i think thats a two way issue#most transmascs dont know all the issues taking place in the transfem community#im specifically talking about the transfems who make hating transmascs and cis women a full time job#and claim they only feel safe around cis men#like ok you just outed urself as a run of the mill mysognist drawing weird lines but ok#before someone acts the fool im both#im intersex with transmasc and transfem experiences and identify as both#its ridiculous that i get slapped with an anti-self label cause i asked a transfem to care about the other half of the fucking trans communi
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Sometimes I think of Amy Pond, who grew up being called mad by those who wielded the word as a tool of exclusion and shame —
Amy Pond, who though forced into the hands of four psychiatrists, still clung to that which they called madness until those systems which elevate psychosocial conformity above humanity stripped it from her —
Amy Pond, whose imaginary friend reappeared for a single hour after twelve years and reignited that faith before disappearing for two more years —
Amy Pond, who spent those those two years under the same implicit threat ingrained in her through psychiatric violence, and thus began to believe the man who stopped the invasion was “just a madman with a box,” only for him to agree, and to also call her “mad, impossible Amy Pond,” reframing madness as non-negative for the first time in her life —
Amy Pond, who ignored the disembodied voice of her imaginary friend even as she ran away with him for real, who still lived each day with the traumatic internalization of deviancy dictated upon her by the psychiatric-industrial complex that shaped her from childhood —
Amy Pond, who wouldn't acknowledge the Doctor's voice, such that it took an Angel in her eye that was literally killing her to ensure she couldn't reality check herself —
Amy Pond, who stood before a room which muttered about “the psychiatrists we brought her to,” and though afraid, escaped their rigid parameters of acceptable existence.
#I like seeing it as indicating she began hearing his voice when he was gone for all those years! why else wouldn't she say anything?#actually psychotic Amy agenda#Amy Pond#eleventh doctor#reclaimed language#oh look its another antipsychiatry themed doctor who post#sumn abt in Fairies At The Bottom Of The Garden audio AND Imaginary Enemies comic we see Amelia bein called slurs against psychotic people#(shes called psycho in both)#like!!! and SO MUCH OF AMYS STORY is about her claiming her agency in ways that previous companions weren't allowed to-#companions whose status as a Wife was a signifier of an to end of their value individually- 'this is no place for a married woman' etc#in some cases Wife-ness forced upon them *as* a denial of agency 'I spent all that time trying to find you I'm not going back now!' etc#whereas Amys story deconstructs that; Amys “Choice” is an illusion- Amy being a Wife doesn't demote her agency as an companion#anyways I love that aspect of reclaimed agency for Amy but ALSO#“madness” as an expression of agency against systems of oppression is SO relevant. the mind defends itself and the alternative isnt better#the oppressive system in this case being ableist structures and the psychiatric system ITSELF which is a whole other layer#the moral being that even if the Doctor WAS a delusion? he'd still be a needed coping mechanism for a child who says “ppl always leave”#and instead of examining her feelings of abandonment they insist 'aLiENs DoNt ExIsT' as seen in the 'sTaRs DoNt ExIsT' psychiatrist in TBB#they don't care that she's in PAIN- why would they?- they just care that she's 'abnormal' and therefore not deserving of humanity#(eleventh) doctor is neurodivergent tag#I mean technically this is about Amy but I once (twice) used that tag on the post about the Master. its the spirit of it!#and Amy Pond + her Raggedy Doctor as “mad” people is very *chefs kiss*#((you know what im putting the tag on my last Amy post :D ))#Mels experienced this very differently and I'll make a post about her at some point- I just wanna make sure my points are got across better#sumn abt Amelia's “crazy” was Mels' “delinquency.” Amy treated as if she doesn't know her own life while Mels treated as threatening#sumn abt adultification of Black girls while Amy is infantilized#Amy Pond who could rewrite reality in a reborn universe because she grew up with a Crack in her wall that no one believed was special —#ableism#saneism#unreality#because I mean Amy's stand against psychiatric dehumanization was to REWRITE THE UNIVERSE with her Crack powers
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I don't understand why people seem to dislike "Girl Dinner" and "Girl Math" so much.
Like, it's not about girls being unable to take care of themselves or make smart financial decisions. Girl Math is literally just about how under the capitalism small purchases that add up to a large number don't feel as expensive as one large purchase. It's the same phenomenon as being willing to pay $10 for a product but not $8 + $2 shipping. Or spending cash feeling different from spending on a credit card.
Or like why a bunch of people just started talking about how being a bimbo is just quirky sexism.
Yes, women can achieve great things, and they can be smart. We all support women's rights. But we gotta support women's wrongs as well.
After being told that you have to be smart and strong and do everything a man can do or you're a bad feminist and you're setting the movement back fifty years, the ability to just be dumb and carefree feels like taking off a bra.
Yes, women can be smart. But they can be dumb too. We can be weak and dumb and that doesn't make us "bad feminists" or "quirky sexists". It makes us human. And shaming women for their freedom to enjoy their life however they want is counterproductive. Men get to be as dumb as they want without shame, so why is it that when women are the ones who are dumb, you get offended and try to shame them into acting the way you want them to?
We can't have equality until you guys stop shaming women for every little thing they do. We can't have equality if we don't support women's wrongs.
#yes this is about that one post#I'm sick and tired of everyone acting like not knowing how to change a tire as a woman is “bad feminism”#Like if you can't understand complex historical concepts and code and do mental algebra and speak a dozen languages and lift your weight#then you're setting back the movement??#I'm just generally sick of people saying that the expectations placed on women by society is unfair and then turning around#and making women feel bad for not being exceptional#I don't have to get 3 degrees and a doctorate and also lift cars in my free time#Everyday I understand Marina's lyrics better#You want me to write a feminist anthem? I'm happy cooking dinner in the kitchen for my husband#that lyric used to make me so angry but now I understand#Enjoying something or not being able to do something doesn't make you lesser#And you don't have to feel guilty for enjoying things#girl dinner#girl math#Some of you need to listen to Gloria's speech again and it shows
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I started a literature course at the public library and there was the poshest women I've ever heard in my life there my eyes literally widened in disbelief at the way she was pronouncing some words omg...
#she was so um annoying though LMAOOOOOOO#every time she started talking about 'the first populations' of america i could see the trans girl in the group going like 😐#she was all like 'this story takes place in nature and of course the first population in america are very in touch with nature'#'which suggests to me the author definitely spent time with them' girl he literally is using nature as a source of horror#he explicitly stated that he used the 'hostility of natives' as an inspiration for the horror in his novels? he wasn't learning from them#it just seemed like she was trying to score liberal points or something idek it was so strange#and then this other woman was like 'the narrator just seems like an incel who didn't get his way' girl...#the poor guy teaching us has a PhD in spanish literature and he was trying his best to agree with everyones contributions but lmaoooo#also the people like 'its hard to understand old language' bro this is the teachers second language don't complain about finding it too hard#then half the group didn't even do the reading dkbdkebdkdjdj#anyway. i did really love it though i felt like hearing some other people's thoughts and the historical context was really fun#i love when you feel ambivalent about a text and then after analysing it you start to love it because you notice things you didn't before
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Now how do you say "this business practice is predatory and I'm never using your service again and you need to clarify xyz for future customers" without getting written off as a Karen
#impossible I'm sure#cassidy.txt#the Whiny Woman-ification of Karen is one of many casualties to memefied language. that meant something important.#now it's just any woman who complains#EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A MEDICAL SITUATION. AND THEY OFFERED ME A NONEXISTENT CHANCE TO GET A COUPON IF I USED THEIR SERVICE#WHICH WAS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN OTHER PLACES#AND NOW I AM UNMEDICATED
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auughh i dont do m/f pairings much but cassandra/sam sent me into very passionate ranting last night like i could go on for 8000yrs about sams intentions vs the interpretations of his actions constantly being misconstrued as a result of how he was raised and how cassandra unintentionally (BUT ENTIRELY UNDERSTANDABLY) misinterprets his intents as negative when its the only way he knows how to show/get love but because of the numerous power dynamics in play against her she just sees the worst of his attempts and intentions despite him literally operating with the exact opposite mindset
AND THEN WHAT SUCKS IS THAT YOU CAN EVEN APPLY SOME OF WHAT I JUST SAID TO SAM/HOFFMANN BUT WITH THE ADDED MISERY THAT HOFFMANN SUCKS SO MUCH AS A PERSON AND IS STRAIGHT UP USING SAM WITHOUT ACKNOWLEDGING HOW MUCH SAM CARES ABOUT HIM???
sam greenwood's biggest crime is that he cares more about people than they care about him
#das boot#das boot 2018#sam greenwood#SAM GREENWOOD GET BEHIND ME I SEE YOU. I SEE YOU AS THE EMOTIONALLY NEGLECTED CHILD YOU ARE.#i'm also a cassandra defender - her rejection of him is entirely understandable as a black woman in a 1940s white mans world#but her rejection of him comes from a place of misunderstanding sam's intentions - she thinks he's trying to buy her love (negative)#when transactional affection and love is clearly how sam was raised to do things (LOOK AT HIS FATHER!!! LOOK AT HOW JACK TREATS HIM)#and she thinks that sam is on the up and up of his fathers intentions but THAT IS SO CLEARLY NOT THE CASE AND SHE SHOULD REALIZE THAT#its just a serious case of misunderstanding like theyre speaking two different love languages#idgaf if you dont think love languages are a thing I AM RIGHT#cassandra deserves a good man but i do think sam would've genuinely made her really happy if they werent unfortunately in 1940s new york
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This also destroys me btw
#this woman lived alone with absolutely no one but abusive servants for almost 10 years#there is a special place in hell for people who abuse elderly and/or disabled people idc idc#and in other circumstances there would be something to be said about the power dynamics between servants and masters but like...#she had litterally 0 power over anyone not even herself so you know#anyway imagine living the kind of life where you end up nostalgic for the prison where you were raised#that's why i kinda hate how Ekaterina portrays them being 'freed' at this great thing#all it meant was being separated from their half siblings send to an unfamiliar place where people spoke a language they couldn't understan#not an improvment imo#catherine antonovna of brunswick
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Every day so mad at myself for losing a majority of my ASL vocab and skills from high school it was just so hard to keep hold of learning when I didn't have regular practice :(
#s.txt#i was like. fairly fluent too AUGHH#like met a deaf woman at work and was able to have a full detailed conversation with her fluent#and lots of signs make their way into my gestures when i talk w my hands#like i still sign 'applause' when saying yay#if i pick it back up ill probably try and find places to practice i was just WAYY too anxious as a teenager#but i want that fluency back!!#and i feel like a stinker only having one fluent language
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paimon: what if he'd actually cut your arm off? dehya: then i'd just have to hold my claymore with my left arm
i don't think dehya's demo is all that great ( like her character kit really, rip ), but this scene is my absolute favourite from sumeru honestly, i love this girl sm
#* / character study ( dehya. )#because there's one thing to be shown as a badass (which her demo does)#but another to be shown that she is a woman of fundamental principles that are tied to the tribal nature of the desert#like that entire exchange is the language of the desert#they don't deal in hypotheticals or rhetoric like the akademiya does#they deal in the tangible realities of living in a place so harsh that it is actively out to kill you#dehya giving up her arm and therefore ability to fight with it is the only natural thing to ask of her in that situation#and she knows that. and she's not surprised#i love that it ends with some alhaitham sass too lmao#unlike my fontaine ladies she's more of a slowburn of a muse but i love her#i think because delving into desert lore is Daunting but i'm working on it !
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nobody likes grammatical gender until they see esperanto does "la lingvo" instead of "la lingva" because of grammar stuff. you have to admit there's something really beautiful about having the ends of words in simple phrases rhyme like that.
#my main reason for not wanting to learn esperanto is just the sexism tbh#like “virino” (woman) just means man (viro) of the woman variety (-ino)#same applies for kato katino or esperanto esperantino or anything else#this is a thing in natural languages yeah waiter waitress bachelor bachelorette whatever#but it has no place in a conlang for maximum unity and what-not#yes i did see these points elsewhere and didn't come up with them myself but i'm sure i would have if i had started to learn esperanto#properly and tried doing anything outside the gender binary because boooo gender#yes we should abolish gender that would be fun
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i love going to the (very scarce) eastern european stores in my area bc there will always ALWAYS undoubtedly be a middle class english family absolutely FUMING that there are no british products in this foreign store. they enter it looking for like one or two items they can get from english stores but they expect it to be stocked in a polish/romanian fusion store bc they’ve already infiltrated every other corner of our life and countries so why not our food and culture too 🙄
#like no they don’t stock ribena? try a watermelon hells instead#like I AM angry watching a middle aged woman throw a tantrum in a store bc she can’t find THE most famous brand of british juice#in a foreign store.#bc if you go to my country everyone is speaking their language despite saying they don’t like them and pandering to them everywhere they go?#so like at least let those of us in diaspora have one single place without you lmfao#mrow.org
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Studying language and gender is so embarassing on the behalf of linguistics. It’ll be like in the 1970s this researcher concluded that women’s speech is inherently inferior and that they don’t actually think when speaking. His research is based on post cards and his own experience. He wrote a book on it and everyone believed it.
#I WISH I was joking#See: Robin Lakoff's dominance theory which is based on the very reliable source of her own observations going through life#aka THERE WAS NO RESEARCH#and then she wrote an entire book. Called language and the woman's place because of course it was#And THEN there's Otto Jesperson#who argued that women thought less about their speech as they used more fillers#and HIS research was based on LITERATURE AND TRAVELLERS.#A VERY reliable source (it is fucking not)#All of this has been disproved btw#Shoutout to Onnela and Deborah Cameron tho#both of whom proved that men and women's speech is largely the same and. get this.#They did ACTUAL RESEARCH on it#ik ik#Cameron's book is called the myth of mars and venus it might be a good read
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