#lady soredamors

[gawrkin]

(From Culhwch and Olwen)

(From Vita Merlini)

I've been bitten by the idea bug and have been brainstorming about how Guinevere and Morgan can each have their own women-only orders/girl gangs.

So here's a concept of Gwen and Morgan's gangs with the caveat rule of "they're always grouped in numbers of Nine" (because Nine is a mystical number and stuff, lol). Its a work in progress through:

Morgan's Group:

Morgan le Fay/la Dieuesse

Sebile (could be identified with anyone below)

Queen of Norgales

Queen of Eastland and/or Sorestan?

Queen of the Outre Isles?

Lady of Avalon? (Possibly Enfeidas, see below)

Lady Bertilak?

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Guinevere's Group:

Guinevere

Isolde

Enide

Lady of Malehaut/Bloie

Creiddylad?

Olwen?

Maleagant's Sister?

Elibel/Elyzabel?

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Undecided, Unaffiliated, or are second-degree related:

Nimue/Vivianne

Guinevere's other relatives (Lenomie, Flori, Jandree)

Brangwaine

Fenice and Thessala

Hellawes

Annowre

Britomart

Silence

Indeg

Tegan Eurfron/Guinier

Laudine and Lunette

Perse (Hector de Maris' Beloved)

Guinloie?

Lady of Nohaut?

Isolde White Hands?

Brandegorre's daughter?

Exceptions (people who I feel shouldn't be part of either Guinevere or Morgan's groups for one reason or another) are:

Morgause, her daughters (Soredamors, Clarissant) and daughters-in-Law (Guinevak-Cwyllog, Lynette and Lyonesse, Ragnelle, etc.),

Elaine of Garlot/Blasine/Brimesent, Elaine of Benoic/Clarine/Gostanza.

Older generation ladies like Igraine, Igraine's Sisters, Isolde the Elder, Blanchefleur/Elizabeth/Tristan's mom, Enfeidas and Ganieda

Grail Saga Ladies: Dindrane/Percival's sister, Amite/Elaine of Corbenic, Brisen, Queen of the Wastlelands and Kundry.

Elaine of Astolat

Tryamour/Lanval's Beloved?

Morfydd? Gaia Pulzella?

Percival's Beloveds (Angharad, Blanchefleur, Kondwiramurs)

the Beloveds of the next generation (Blonde Esmeree, Marthe, Elsa, etc.)

The next generation ladies (Archfedd, Melora, Gyneth, Seleucia, Licorida, Andronia, Enneuawc, Kelemon, etc.)

[a-system-of-nerds]

Alright. Tell me of your retelling

Well, I’ve decided to pull bits and pieces that I like from other stories and tweak some things as it suits me. Here’s a list of things:

- Mordred will be more of a hero, as he was characterized in some of the earliest stories.

- For the Arthur-Guenevere-Launcelot love triangle, I’m making Guenevere the bad guy.

- Sir Ector fought with Aurelius Ambrosius to help put him back on the throne.

- Arthur’s first wife will be Lyonors, the daughter of Earl Sanam. A few years into their marriage, she bears him a son, named Borre. A year or so after that, she dies, leaving Arthur to struggle with raising his son and being king. At the urging of the older, more pretentious knights, he gets engaged to Guenevere. This causes a lot of other things.

- Laurel will be the cousin of Lynette and Lyonesse.

- Uther is “friends” with Merlin. It starts with Uther just pretending to be friends with him, needing his powers, but then it becomes genuine. However, he’s possessive of him, needing him to be his friend.

- Sir Bors has Autism Spectrum Disorder.

- The order of the Orkney siblings goes like this: Gawain, Soredamors, Agravaine and Clarissant (twins), Gaheris, Gareth, and Mordred. (There may be one more sibling added, Elayne.)

- Sir Gawain’s squire, Yvonet, is incredibly loyal to him, and, even after Yvonet becomes a knight himself, if it comes down to it, he will act as Gawain’s squire rather than a knight.

- Dinadan had a lover who was a Leanan Sidhe, an Irish vampire who gives inspiration to poets and musicians. Usually, a Leanan Sidhe shares with their lovers their intelligence, magic, and creativity, and when the Leanan Sidhe leaves, their lover dies from grief. The Leanan Sidhe then took their lover’s body to their lair and puts their blood in a cauldron, which is the source of their inspiration and beauty. So, when Dinadan ran away from home, he travelled a bit and met one. He was in a relationship with her, but he discovered the cauldron. His admiration turned to disgust as he learned what she was. He managed to get away and never went back to Ireland.

- Guenevere was the reason Dinadan died. She wanted to make Launcelot believe in her, so she told him that Dinadan was going to die. He didn’t believe her, but she used her powers to possess Agravaine, who was on a quest with Dinadan to end the previously mentioned Leanan Sidhe’s rein in Ireland. They were heading back when Agravaine attacked the already injured Dinadan. When Agravine awoke from the possession, he rushed Dinadan back to Camelot, where he died in Launcelot’s arms.

That’s about all I can think of for now. Thanks for asking; have a great day!

[gringolet]

Hi! Hope you don’t mind but who is soredamors??

shes the mother of cliges and sister of gawain in chretien de troyes cliges, his second worst romance. she makes a shirt out of her hair. interesting lady