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stepswowdsen · 8 months ago

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KuroEne AU: Route Idea where Kuroha baits Konoha using Hibiya

(KuroEne with implied KonoEne)

KuroEne AU rambles. Wrote this a few days ago but forgot to post.

Was just thinking of a KuroEne AU with a Route set-up similar to Manga Route 2 Kuroha/Saeru baits Konoha by using Hibiya, and meets Ene.

Kuroha/Saeru baits Konoha by using Hibiya, and meets Ene. Basically, he baits Konoha on purpose by putting Hibiya (who he's currently possessing) in danger, counting on the fact that he knows Konoha will risk his life for his friends, and then takes the opportunity to jump to possess Konoha's body.

I didn't write KuroEne love/hate sex this time, since these rambles are just SFW, but that'd be fun to write more of, too. Ene should put him in his place!!!

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I initially wrote these as tags but I'm just gonna copy paste to post them here instead.

My canon-verse KuroEne AU is angsty, but it USUALLY starts more lighthearted and tame then eventually ramps up while approaching the fated date.

But this Route idea really takes the cake omfg

I love writing both fluff and angst… I think when juxtaposed together, they become really interesting. In general, I also think that conflict and tension are the spice of life in ships, so I love writing interesting kinds of conflict and tension and hostility, of the compelling kind.

It isn't KagePro without angst and tragedy after all ^^

But gosh I do think my other ships show how my tastes mellowed out over time cuz my KuroEne AU is so angsty. KuroEne has a delicious set-up and unique context that makes the ship interesting.

While my other fandom ships still have spicy kinds of conflict and tension, they are still very soft and tender and filled with warmth and companionship.

I think KuroEne have moments of tenderness and warmth and companionship, too, but they have the most tense relationship of all my ships due to Kuroha's role and set-up as the big bad evil snake who's the cause of the time loop tragedy.

I put more rambles under the cut, as usual!

Me: (Me while writing for my KuroEne AU)

I love angst!!! And also fluff!!! Yayyyyy!!! 🥰💞

My friends: HOLY SHIT your KuroEne AU is so angst fuel I love it... But you are really so evil for this Sen /lh /j 😭

Context Rambles and Some Thoughts

I decided to add context at the beginning for anyone who'd like to tune into the rambles.

In most Routes, Saeru (Snake of Clearing Eyes) possesses Kenjirou (Ayano's father) and then at the end of a Route (on the fated day of August 15th), the Heat Haze Day, jumps to Konoha's body.

Konoha's body is advantageous for him. Due to the nature of Haruka’s wish to have an “ideal” body to make friends with, Konoha’s body has superhuman strength (ie. Konoha can punch craters into walls, jump across buildings, and heal from fatal wounds).

Because of this, for him (Saeru), it's the ideal body to carry out the "Tragedy" with.

Ty to the KagePro fan-wiki for compiling sm of the lore and resources 🙏 Incredibly useful.

It's also because as Konoha, Haruka’s body is host-less. It doesn't have a human host, so he can jump from the current person he’s possessing to Konoha’s (as long as his current vessel manages to touch Konoha), and overtake the body with ease, overtake Konoha’s consciousness and possess him.

According to Novel Route, due to the wide degree of knowledge he carries, Kuroha/Saeru can even use Konoha’s Awakening Eyes to “rebuild the body molecule by molecule”

In Manga Route 2, even when he’s crushed by a landslide, he can heal and regenerate, no problem. This guy is absurdly OP as Black Konoha.

His extremely cold and calculated way of thinking and usage of "resources" is interesting to me.

But I also think it makes sense that the being who’s basically the embodiment of “Knowledge/Wisdom” can pull these things off.

I would say that it's because it's advantageous to him.

In most Routes, when Saeru possesses Kenjirou, waits until night to possess Kenjirou so that he doesn't draw suspicion.

Kenjirou is an adult male researcher/scientist, so that means that Saeru can gather funds and resources and influence while possessing him. Saeru overtakes the consciousness of the person he possesses, so they don't remember the things he does while possessing them.

It's within the nature of an Eye Ability Snake to works towards fulfilling their current host's wish, so he works towards his host's goals, while also working towards his own goals.

Iirc, it's because of Saeru's influence that the deaths of Haruka, Takane, and Ayano, who all die on the same day, don't get mass reported to the media.

Because 3 high school students dying mysteriously on the same day would be a HUGE thing, but he seems to take advantage of the body he's using to convince others to keep their deaths concealed so that the news is not wide spread.

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In Manga Route 2, both of Ayano's parents die (instead of just her mother, Ayaka), but Kenjirou doesn't enter the Kagerou Daze in this Route.

So, Saeru has to possess Hibiya (the youngest MekaDan member at 11 years old), and Hibiya's body is much more inconvenient for him, but he still does fine with hiding from the MekaDan cuz no one suspects him until it's too late, and he kills Momo by throwing her off the rooftop in front of numerous MekaDan members.

KuroEne AU: Route where Kuroha baits Konoha on purpose using Hibiya

Would be interesting if there are Routes similar to Manga Route 2 where Kuroha possesses Hibiya's body in a KuroEne AU

Saeru baits Konoha on purpose by throwing Hibiya's body (that he's currently possessing), knowing that Konoha will try to save Hibiya, his friend, due to his nature (good will and selflessness)

If he's feeling especially cruel, then he just throws Hibiya's body into oncoming traffic as he jumps to possess Konoha's body.

Otherwise, he'll just leave Hibiya's body as soon as there's touch/contact between his current host he's possessing, and Konoha's body, and then jump to possess Konoha

Saeru just lets Hibiya get killed when he leaves the body after baiting Konoha, and jumps to possess his body.

I imagine Ene is in the android body in the real world for this one.

Imagine if there's like a scene with KonoEne before where Konoha tells Ene he's going to go after Hibiya and that Ene should stay put and "get away from here as far as possible" and escape to the cyber world, because he doesn't know if the Clearing Snake will endanger any more people.

Ene tears up and stubbornly says, "Idiot!!! I'm not leaving you alone!!! I can't... I can’t lose you again…!" And just thinks to herself how she can't let Konoha slip out of her grasp just like Haruka did 2 years ago.

She's not leaving him alone to deal with the evil snake, someone so dangerous like that, and clings onto him by wrapping her arms around his waist to try and keep him in place, so that he doesn't go.

So Konoha just gently picks her up and finds a safe place for her to be. He gives her a gentle smile and tells her he'll promise to come back with Hibiya safe and sound, and then starts jumping across the rooftops in search of Hibiya.

Ene doesn't stay put and runs after Konoha in the direction he went trying to find him.

Konoha tells Ene that he'll make sure to "save Hibiya and rid him of that evil, no good snake" and runs after Hibiya. Ene tells him to stop and wait cuz she has a bad feeling about this... She can't catch up to his superhuman speed, but runs after him anyways.

When Ene finally sees Konoha in the distance and catches up to him, Ene can only watch as black spirals start to envelop Konoha, and Kuroha emerges from it.

KuroEne AU: Kuroha and Ene's 1st Meeting in this Route (Dialogue Script Ideas)

Ene: What…… Konoha...! What happened to Konoha...!?

Ene: YOUUUUUU...!!! 💢

Kuroha: Hello... This is the first time we meet, yes? How do you do? (^-^)

Ene: Looks like you’ve finally shown yourself… You evil snake!!!

Kuroha: I've been waiting to meet you for a very long time...

Ene: Fine… Let’s talk, Snake of Clearing Eyes.

(Some snippets I wrote above ^^)

KuroEne AU: Rambles

Ene just thinks about Konoha's words to her that he'll be coming back safe with the two of them, and just mutters to herself that he's an "idiot" for not keeping his promise.

Ene realizes that Kuroha/Saeru baited Konoha into coming after him using his selflessness and love for his friends against him.

Ene glares and growls at Kuroha and he just smirks and says that he "likes and feeds off of the hatred in her eyes, strong emotions solely being directed towards him."

Ene is just like "What are you doing!? What kind of monster are you... That boy was innocent... He had nothing to do with this!"

In regards to Hibiya's death, Kuroha just tells her that a little collateral damage in the process feels inevitable, so why stop it? It's much more entertaining this way.

First time they meet in this route? Yes. But not the first time ever, and he knows that. They've been through this "dance" before.

Kuroha also makes that comment because of the time it takes from the beginning of a Route to get to the present day. This mf seems patient af... Yes, he's been waiting to meet her again.

This is honestly one of the most angstiest ways that they [Kuroha and Ene] could meet in a Route, cuz usually, my KuroEne AU first meetings are more lighthearted and tame in that Kuroha finds Ene himself, and decides to play nice at first (in the beginning stages of their relationship, while getting to know each other).

Though, in my KuroEne AU, Kuroha/Saeru possessing Konoha's body THIS early, does mean that he dumps the body of whoever he was possessing, MUCH earlier compared to canon.

Like he leaves the body he was possessing earlier prior to meeting her, but NOT right in front of her (so she's blissfully unaware). Like he shows himself, and introduces himself to her as Black Konoha.

The Eye Ability Snake acts as a surrogate life for those who've died and obtained Eye Abilities, so him leaving the body just straight up kills the person

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shintaroskeyboard · 1 year ago

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dude I sympathize with you so much. I used to think about this shit all the time until I decided to start answering all these questions like the JoJo fans do and just being like ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ Jin forgot

THAT SAID I do have my own theory. it doesn't explain everything though, if anything it's more a guide to which parts are plot holes and which ones make sense in canon. I think it fully explains all except mr2 Ayano and ep11 Shintaro though.

I tend to interpret the daze as like a program: azami gave it a command, and inadvertently relinquished her ability to set an end condition. so it ran on an infinite loop. and how you interpret that command is kinda everything.

in each timeline her command accomplishes something to the effect of "take in the two people dying in this area on August 15, and give one of them a snake to replace their life, and let them leave."

that said, we don't know the exact command that she thought/gave to the daze. it seems likely that if she could have saved both of them, she would, and that if she could have given them snakes other than the queen, she would have. so the command likely took the form of:

1. take on the two people dying on August 15

2. give a power to any/all of them who are suited to one

3. allow those people to leave (on August 15)

so most of the time, it takes in two people dying and only one of them is suited to a power just by coincidence. kano's mother, momo's dad, seto's dog, etc weren't compatible with one. but in a few special cases they're both compatible with one. in the case of hibihiyo, they were both compatible with the same one, so the daze looped unendingly as neither of them was willing to accept their exclusive survival. hibiya may have been compatible with Clearing too, but at that point Kenjirou already had it. in the case of Takane, Haruka, and Ayano, though...

So we know from LN6 that Haruka knew when he was going to die. the "scientists" told him, so Kenjirou potentially already knows. he poisons Takane so that she'll die at the same time, setting off the daze.

Ayano reads his plans (seen in the Ayanos Happiness Theory mv) and learns this, and chooses to die at the same time as takane and haruka. this fulfills the requirements. three "pairs" die: Haruka and Takane, Takane and Ayano, and Ayano and Haruka. so they all get pulled in, and it turns out they're all compatible with snakes. the rest is history. ayano chooses to stay, both to stop Clearing from collecting all the snakes and to guide others through the daze. and so Clearing forces the loop, etc etc

she could have left anytime because it's a rule of the daze that people with powers can leave, but she chooses not to. in the novels, she stays because the confrontation with Kuroha happens after August 15, and I think that people with powers can still only exit on August 15.

Konoha fulfills the requirements in the same way that Ayano does (he's shown in the anime to have died at the exact same time that they did) but since he already has his own daze, he's not a participant in theirs and in fact cannot interact with theirs at all.

since the dazes are always involved in guiding a person toward a power, I think you only get your own daze if you're compatible with a power. which implies that Rin was also compatible with Concealing in the anime route, because she shares a daze with Kido, but unlike hibihiyo those 2 were both okay with Kido surviving so it didn't happen like hibihiyo's. the difference between anime and novel kido!daze is just artistic license I think: the anime cut out details cause it's really short but I don't think there's a huge difference between the interpretations story-wise.

however, in mekakucity actors, when Shintaro kills himself alone on August 15 to enter the daze? yeah that makes no sense at all. how the hell did he do that. if dying on August 15 automatically sent you to the daze it would explain it but then what about the others who die fighting Kenjirou? does that happen after midnight? also either way I still don't think Azami's wish would cause that. the only way I can rationalize it is that he technically died alongside Yaki, so it counted—if Seto's dog counts than maybe Yaki, who used to be human, counts too? maybe Shintaro manages to bullshit that through his past-timeline knowledge. but it's still kind of a stretch, I say Jin chose to leave that plot hole in exchange for making the show capable of ending.

MR2 Ayano? Jin completely, irrevocably forgot. unless she died alongside someone else too, but idk you'd think she would mention that.

so there we go! lemme know if you think I missed anything. technically I think this doesn't leave any EXPLICIT plotholes (MR2 Ayano could have died with another person, Yaki could have fulfilled the requirement in MCA) but I still think the rules of the daze are just kinda wobbly in anime and manga when they're rushed.

extremely scattered ramble of me giving myself an aneurysm from thinking abt the manga's plot 👍 and also miscellaneous kgpr plot things 👍 its long 👍

like. very long.

ow my head. i tried to think abt some of the manga's plot points but im so serious that if you question any of it's plot, you'll just end up with a bunch more questions. like i was thinking 'how does ayano receive favoring eyes and leave the daze? did she enter the daze by herself, did she enter with mary, did her parents enter with her??' bc this is never actually explained....... and also its super unlikely that kenjirou and ayaka entered the daze in mr2, since their bodies were still in the real world:

but then that begs the question of how ayano was able to leave the daze...... and how does the kagerou daze even fucking work??! like the common understanding is that two people enter, and only one person leaves with a snake. but this doesnt seem to be the case with mr2 ayano (maybe). and in fact theres been several times where this isnt the case:

- like harutaka in every route. two people died but they both received snakes.... except it kinda?? follows the 'two in one out' rule?? except its more of a three in two out rule um something like this:

with haruka's spirit staying behind in the daze. its important to note that takane's body never enters the daze, only her consciousness...... (I THINK.... cuz thats why her body still exists in the real world) but then that begs the question of why didnt hrtk have the same daze. cuz haruka's daze is an empty space with a hospital bed, and takane's daze is a crumbling city. but also hibihiyo has shown us that sharing a daze =/= experiencing the same events in the daze. hibiya sees hiyori dying countless of times, while hiyori sees hibiya dying countless of times. but at least theyre both in a city?? but also like in the novels kido had entered the daze with rin, but was alone when she met azami there. so... so its possible that harutaka shared a daze, but had completely different experiences. yes. that might be it...

- another exception of the 'two in one out' rule is hibihiyo. in the novels and songs (and maybe the anime but idk i havent rewatched it yet), konoha is shown to have entered hibihiyo's kagerou daze. another instance of three 'people' in the daze! what!! but whats interesting to note is that konoha is incapable of interfering with hibihiyo's daze. konoha also leaves the daze in these routes, which is.. hm... can a snake just jump in and out of the daze? can a snake even die... konoha cant die. how did he even get in there??? i guess he just got swallowed into the opening.. probably.. cuz thats also how saeru-possessing-konoha-possessing-haruka's body gets swallowed up into the daze in the novels and the manga. and maybe the anime.

and now that i think about it, in novel 3, there was a buildup towards exploring konoha's presence in hibihiyo's daze:

and im just only realizing..... THIS PLOT POINT WAS COMPLETELY DROPPED?!???? FJDSKLFJAKL oh my god bro 😭 but yeah... aside from that, mr2 hibihiyo are also exceptions. both hibihiyo entered the daze, and both of them got out! what!!!!

does this mean that the 'two in, one out' rule is bullshit? and you just need a snake to leave the daze? but if that's the case, then... why doesnt ayano ever leave the daze after mr2??? but before answering that, i have to point out that:

- the final exception to the 'two in, one out' rule is ayano. i mean mca shintaro is also an exception but ill get to him in a bit, plus his case is related to ayano. but yes anyways, ayano enters the daze on her own. the only other character to have done that is her and mca shintaro (i think. and maybe ayano entered the daze on her own in mr2??? ill come back to that) now back to why ayano doesnt leave the daze in routes excluding mr2.. at first glance, the reason for that seems to be tht ayano does obey the 'two in, one out' rule; bc she entered on her own, she cannot leave the daze. but as i just pointed out, mr2 hibihiyo had two people leaving when two people had entered. which makes it seem that the only prerequisite for leaving the daze is to obtain a snake. and in the novels, songs, and anime, ayano is shown to have received favoring eyes in the daze. which implies that she can leave the daze at any time... so why doesnt she leave?? and does this mean that the 'two in, one out' rule isnt even true??

ive seen several fans argue that this is the case, that the 'two in, one out' rule is false, and these three exceptions exist bc that rule didnt exist in the first place. but i find this hard to believe in, bc kagepro goes out of its way to consistently show two people dying together to enter the daze. like in the case of mr2 harutaka, the manga made a point of showing that they both died in proximity of each other, and on the same day:

^incorrect (or just confusing) pronoun usage btw and yes this is the official translation 😑😑😑 takane jumped out the window, not haruka

and as i pointed out in my silly diagram, someone does always get left behind: haruka's spirit. so the 'two in, one out' rule does kinda still apply to them. and as to why both hibiya and hiyori were able to receive snakes and leave the daze in mr2, saeru did state that he had manipulated hibiya into having a wish that would make him suitable for saeru to possess him:

so that may have played a role of sorts in their exception. but as to why (non-mr2) ayano doesnt leave the daze after receiving favoring eyes... well, ive seen some fans say that 1.) ayano willingly stayed in the daze, 2.) ayano didnt know she could leave the daze, and 3.) ayano could only leave in mca after shintaro (in all his yakitsu-powered glory) had given her a reason to + showed her the way out. except i cant really agree with these points, bc;

1.) people say that ayano willingly stayed in the daze in order to prevent saeru from gathering all the snakes in the real world. thats fair, bc that is, after all, the reason why ayano had entered the daze to begin with. but this logic then kinda falls apart towards the end of the novel route. here, she reunites with shintaro in the daze, learns that her siblings are endangered, and eventually learns that her only surviving sibling is seto. if she was capable of leaving the daze, wouldnt she have wanted to? like this is the girl who killed herself and thought abt killing someone to keep her siblings safe. i dont think shes willingly keeping herself in the daze at this point. and that brings me to the next point;

2.) that ayano didnt know she could leave the daze. if this is true, that would mean that in the ending of the novels, the reason why she didnt leave is bc she didnt know she could leave. and thats a fair assumption, except... in both the anime and novels, ayano is the one who leads hibiya out of the daze:

^ayano and hibiya chitchatting in the daze

.....so this kinda implies that, she does know how one can leave the daze. which then implies that in the novels' ending, she's not leaving bc she doesnt know how to, but instead bc she can't. which then nullifies the last point;

3.) that she only left in mca after shintaro had given her a reason to + showed her the way out. again, she already had reasons to leave in the novels, and she led hibiya out of the daze which implies that she knows how someone can leave the daze, its just that she herself cant leave. but why she's able to leave in mca...... man i dont fucking know 😭 does ANYTHING in mca's ending fucking make sense..... it probably has something to do with shintaro's presence. god maybe even the possibility that yakitsu needs to disappear for ayano to be able to leave the daze??? but thats just a guess but god who knows at this point, that might actually be the reason.

so yeah, i do feel like the 'two in, one out' rule does exist, but just not super rigidly. harutaka bent it a bit in their weird way, and saeru was able to manipulate it via mr2 hibiya. and it still applies to ayano hence why she couldnt just up and leave the daze.

but back to mr2 ayano... yes this post is about mr2 ayano in spite of that insane tangent. again, its not specified who ayano enters the daze with, whether she entered by herself, with mary, or with her parents, and how she was able to leave. i already ruled out her parents, and i just went over the whole 'two in, one out' rule, which implies that.... ayano shouldnt have been able to enter the daze and leave on her own. but just bc it shouldnt have happened doesnt mean it didnt happen. so its still possible that she had entered the daze on her own.

but its also possible that she had entered with mary. mary, in possession of azami's combining eyes, may have had a different set of rules applied to her there, similar to how konoha in hibihiyo's kagerou daze kinda had his own set of rules applied to himself, which is why he couldnt interact with hibihiyo.

and there's also this other observation i made which relates itself to mary, which is that in the novels, songs, and anime, ayano's kagerou daze is consistently a classroom:

except in mr2, where instead, her daze very closely resembles mary's, azami's, and shion's kagerou daze.....???

and this revelation brought up three points in my mind:

1.) maybe her daze isnt a classroom bc she isnt shown having school friends in mr2, so its likely that school isnt significant to her. after all, she isnt the only character shown to have had different kagerou dazes in different medias; in the novels, kido's daze is a empty black expanse, but in the anime, her daze is her still-burning mansion:

but also, this then started to make me wonder, why didnt ayano have school friends in mr2? specifically, why didnt she become friends with shintaro in mr2?? shouldnt they have both been middle school classmates in this route? i specify middle school bc in the anime, novels, and songs, shintaro and ayano befriend one another in middle school. according to 'my little daze', its during their second year of middle school specifically. also shintaro doesnt attend highschool in mr2:

but anyways yeah like harutaka were not initially classmates, but saeru, through kenjirou's body, manipulated their environment to have the two of them become classmates with one another. but i dont think he has any reason to make shintaro and ayano friends with each other, meaning i dont think saeru manipulated their friendship in any way. and theres like, no reason given as to why shinaya Wouldnt have been in the same middle school class. and yeah they dont recognize one another when they meet in mr2, but that doesnt mean they couldnt have been classmates. like who actually remembers all of their classmates? especially people like mr2 shinaya who have gone thru traumatic events.

so anyways with the theoretical possibility that mr2 shinaya were middle school classmates, the reasons i can think of on why they didnt befriend each other, could be that maybe ayano was too stressed about the mekatrio's + mary's predicament to go ahead and forge some meaningful friendships. after all, mr2 ayano learns that their eye powers are endangering them significantly earlier than she does in the other routes. in the novels, anime, and songs, she only learns this after ayaka's death. its not specified when exactly mr2 ayano learns this, but its right after mary starts living with them, which seems to be when she was very young.

^(also i wanna say that i was robbed from having the CUTEST mekatrio sleeping on the floor picture ever like if satou mahiro wasnt going thru hell at this time then oh my god. this couldve been the cutest thing ever.... ok mekatrio tangent OVER)

another reason i can think of as to why shinaya dont befriend each other in mr2 while they do in other routes is maybe... what if... shintaro's acquisition of yakitsu is something that subconsciously attracts ayano towards shintaro O_O that sounds kinda crazy but also like??? azami's snakes do gather around mary, who possesses combining eyes. its how seto is always able to find mary in every timeline. yakitsu however is mary's snake, not azami's, meaning that its possible that she may behave differently, aka, ayano (technically.. a snake...) would instead be attracted towards shintaro rather than mary.

also yakitsu is fucking insanely weird in the way that yakitsu, who is tateyama ayano, exists, but also other tateyama ayanos from succeeding timelines also exists??? like theres an ayano in shintaro's head but there's also an ayano in shintaro's classroom. and maybe the ayano in shintaro's head is attracting the ayano in shintaro's classroom towards him. and MAYBE thats why ayano has an almost insane crush on him in every routes? bc good god dude this boy is belittling you and doesnt even remember your BIRTHDAY etc etc etc but yet she still likes him. and what if thats bc like... a part of her soul is fucking enshrined into shintaro. damn its crazy when i word it like that but that's essentially what their relationship is?! so i dont think its too much of a stretch to consider this possibility......

though of course im aware its just as possible that in mr2, maybe they were just never classmates. idk. this is just another criminally underexplored aspect of mr2 out of many. but moving on...

2.) does the fact that mr2 ayano's kagerou daze is some snake hellscape instead of a classroom have anything to do with the fact that she essentially loses her mind when she receives azami's memories in mr2, but in the novels shes completely cool with it??!?

^novel pic is a convo between ayano and azami when ayano enters the daze. also this cracks me up lmfao like in the novels shes like 'omg azami 🥺 i'll do my best for you 🥺' meanwhile in the manga she's like I Went Through Hell And I'm Going To Kill Your Granddaughter Now

like this is something ive never seen other people point out but i feel so O_O by. so i do wonder whether the different kagerou daze environments was a factor on ayano's reaction. or maybe it has to do w the fact that this is the 'first' of the first times that ayano is receiving azami's memories. meaning that this is the first timeline which she receives favoring eyes, and that maybe subconsciously, on some spiritual level or something, she gets more accustomed to receiving azami's memories as more timelines begin to pile up, especially since the novels do strongly imply that the novel timeline takes place quite a while after mr2:

and another thing that reminds me of this unexplained difference between ayano's reaction to receiving azami's memories, and the possibility of accumulating timelines affecting her ability, is this:

^novel 5 fan translation by xpochama

in the novels, it never explained why kano was able to transform into ayano so easily after receiving his powers, when he had only met her very briefly. one theory i have is that maybe, bc ayano always becomes his big sister in every timeline, that kano is somehow intimately familiar with ayano on some deeper subconscious level. and that this accumulations of timelines, and this fact that ayano and kano are destined to become family, have made it so that ayano has became a person who kano will always be able to easily change into.

though ofc there may be other explanations. but im not going to explore them here bc jeez this post is long enough. and also im planning to make a long post abt kano's powers at some point anyways.

3.) and lastly, BACK TO THE ORIGINAL FUCKING POINT NO MORE TANGENTS......... does this mean that in mr2, ayano had shared a daze with mary??? cuz like mr2 ayano's daze does look awfully similar to the mary's daze. and if this was the case this would explain various things... like:

who did ayano enter the daze with? -> just mary, ayaka and kenjirou died outside of the daze

why isnt ayano's daze her usual classroom? -> bc she's sharing a daze with mary

if ayano entered the daze with mary, how were both ayano and mary able to leave the kagerou daze? -> mary has The Powers Of God, meaning its likely that the typical rules of the daze doesnt apply to her, similar to how the rules of the daze were different for konoha's presence in hibihiyo's kagerou daze. mary's presence may have warped the rules and allowed them both to leave the daze

and why does ayano react differently to receiving azami's memories in the manga vs in the novels? -> bc she was receiving them in mary's hellish kagerou daze, as opposed to her typical classroom daze

ok im done with this post. holy fuck

#kagepro #I'm autisming too now yeesh

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