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golemkrueger hcs?

ALWAYS room for more golem/krueger headcanons <3 first post that has the ones most crucial to my view of the ship here.

They can spend a whole afternoon side to side without exchanging a single word, and feel comfortable like so. it qualifies as intimacy

Unbelievably enough, Krueger did lay off the smokes a little because Hans kept chastising him about it back when they were in the KSK. On a normal day he smokes less than a dozen now. (gratuitous plug of Severance, my fic about their shared past, and also one of my favourite works I've made)

If they sleep in the same bed it's in each other's arms or spooning, they rarely just sleep side to side.

Krueger never actually lied, or lies to Golem. Golem is aware of it, which puts him in a weird position where he knows he can really trust Krueger... despite everything.

Incompatible music tastes (😔)

There's a lot of affection and familiarity between them two. They really, really like each other. By all accounts their relationship is a healthy one, it's no strings attached and Golem knows everything that he needs to know. They get their part of the cake, and there's no stakes. What more is there to ask?

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Like. I can't stress this enough this is literally kruegergolem.

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God. Your Hans/Krueger stuff is just…. So delicious. I can taste the bitterness and lust from my phone screen. I do have a couple of questions for your visions of the characters that I don’t recall if you’ve answered from your head canons page if you don’t mind!

I know you’ve said that Hans/Krueger mostly fuck around because they can and they have history. Was it ever romantic? It seems like from Hans perspective he truly is sick with how much he cares for Krueger (or more likely, the past he has with him that he idealizes in a poor attempt at metaphorical ownership of the man,) and Krueger seems more or less nonchalant with the whole emotional situation (like playing into Hans fantasy of him gets him what he wants so he does it with reckless abandon.) Are they bitter exes? Is the love still there? Do either of them want or would ever go for reconciliation?

I also have to ask where Nikto fits into their dynamic, if at all. Your nikto fics, at least by virtue of being Krueger’s perspective for the one about the tattoo, seem to have a lot more emotional weight between the two. Is Hans bitter over this? Does Krueger prefer Nikto? Or is it more like he gets different kicks from them? Does Hans even know about Krueger and Nikto? Would he ever want to?

Sorry for all the questions but your writing is soooo good it’s inspired all sorts of follow ups in my brain. Please feel free to share any other tangential thoughts!!! I love the way you think. I want more of it :)

THIS IS SUCH A GOOD ASK oh my god. You worded things so damn well. It'll be a pleasure to reply 🫡 Thank you so, so much about your kind words about my work. means a whole lot. ♥

The "short answer" is that in both those pairings, love exists, but as different words and concepts as a whole. In a "do not do this at home" way, Krueger/Golem is (post-reunion) love as temperance (moderation/restraint) and familiarity. Krueger/Nikto is love as violent devotion and codependency.

In both cases there's very reciprocal, genuine fondness, but it's under a lot of layers.

Long (very long. sorry. I am passionate about this.) answer under the cut. ⤵

I went over my vision of Krueger/Golem quite a bit in this post. To answer your question, yes, Hans is definitely bitter about caving in so easily for anything Krueger. Golem's tragedy is that he's very aware of it but he can't fight it, because two factors are at hand: his self-indulgence problem, and Krueger's natural tendency to get people in his grip (unstoppable force teaming up with the immovable object against Hans, if you will). But like I said in the post I linked, Krueger is attached. In his own Krueger way, but the familiarity between them is comfortable to him in a way he knows he can't find anywhere else.

Hans gets a very special treatment: Krueger does not push his boundaries. Anything Hans does regarding the Sebastian subject is ultimately motivated by his own will. He knows he can, so he takes and he'll tell you that's his problem only. Truth is, it plays a big part, but Krueger still wants him → which is why he doesn't let go either, and which leads to him constantly worming his way into Hans' life, for said man's greatest dismay... and pleasure.

You worded it really REALLY well: Krueger does play into Hans' fantasies because it's fun and it gets them what they both want, and that includes giving Hans this superficial "control" over his own actions by leading the way to things (as opposed to directly provoking them). Ultimately, both get the best of both worlds: Golem has sobered off from their initial "breakup" so this suits him - he does not want it to be an actual relationship. It's a loose friends with benefits thing, he's work-focused, and knows how Krueger works now: there's no unsaid things, no actual bounds: he's at peace.

As a comparison, Krueger will push Nikto's boundaries to feed more and more into their violent codependency, and because this is also what Nikto himself seeks from what they have.

So yes, Sebastian does get different kicks from Golem and Nikto. Which is exactly why he doesn't have an actual favourite. He needs both for his enrichment (physically and mentally, I can't say emotionally because I headcanon that Krueger has psychopathic traits and does not get attached (or bothered) like a normal human being would. but these two are the highest on the list of people sebastian krueger Likes).

Nikto is like. There's no one (ha) like him in the world. In a sick way, Krueger enjoys seeing him at his best, at his worst, being able to - perhaps being the only one able to read and handle him so well; while Nikto finds in this both an anchor and an outlet. Krueger and Nikto become insanely fusional because they're both obsessed with the other due to their sick traits and know they won't find it anywhere else. They're two dogs that will attempt to maul each other to death and then sleep peacefully on each other with their muzzles still bloody, because they are fond of each other. rinse and repeat.

Golem loosely knows about Krueger and Nikto, but he isn't really bothered or jealous. If anything, he gets an ego boost from it: Krueger messes around with Nikto on the regular, they both practically live in each other's skin, yet Sebastian still semi-regularly comes back to him? Yeah, he's got a special treatment. And he loves it.

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What Gets me the most with Golem/Krueger is that you can really HEAR in their interaction lines that there is... a lot of fondness between them. There's a bond there's chemistry and there's history, and imo in their short scripted exchanges you can really feel it. Yet there's SO much bitterness... and Golem wants it to be resentment so bad but it's not. Ultimately, it's not. Like he's incapable of it. It fucks me up bc golem is so Human rlly

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does nikto knows about HansKrueger were a thing?

I think he does. Because Armistice and then Allegiance/Coalition are like small villages in my mind - everyone knows everything really quickly, even the things that are meant to remain "classified" and such. I also like to imagine that the dossiers were declassified when Armistice split into Allegiance and Coalition.

More specifically, in my headcanon, Krueger uses his relationship with Golem as a mean to make Nikto jealous because they still occasionnally mess around (golemkrueger are like, a married couple. but they're divorced, and the divorce was messy as fuck. and actually they never were official to start with. exes but still fucking type beat). Not that Nikto really minds, it feeds into his and krueger's 'territorial' relationship and gives him more reasons to be possessive as hell, while knowing exactly how Krueger works 👍 and also Nikto does the same with Rodion (only difference is that Krueger doesn't mind but Nikto likes thinking he does). It's all balanced and everyone's getting what they want.

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Speaking of Kreuger and Golem- You explored Golem's reaction to KN in your writing before, especially right at the beginning. But how would he view that relationship once the dust has somewhat settled? (As much as dust can settle with KN, lmao)

Golem's stance is to keep a firm distance from Krueger and Nikto's relationship in more ways than one (not talking about it with Krueger, keeping Nikto at arm's length). Ultimately he's not jealous. He's... really neutral towards it in a way? Although he's attached to Krueger, the 2018 ~incident~ and subsequent years before meeting him again in 2020 definitely helped him have a distance with whatever him and Krueger had... and now have, albeit in a different form. He knows who Krueger is now. He's fine with that. Krueger still comes back to him, and their loose relationship is a good middle ground for him. Whatever Krueger does with Nikto is not his business.

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Does kureger actually have feelings for hans or he’s just another of his chew toy?

cw: unhealthy dynamics + those are my headcanons only

This is a good question. In my headcanon, it's a mix of both. if Krueger was ever able to feel conflicted about anyone he'd feel conflicted towards Hans because he genuinely both enjoys his company... and playing him like a goddamn fiddle; seeing him at his worst (mostly because of him) and always being able to go back to him anyway. You know how we love hurt/comfort and seeing our favourite characters go through the worst moments of their lives and then being comforted? yeah.

Though I gotta say - in the mw19 timeline, so post-KSK and for example the stuff I wrote in Severance, it's "less worse" because Golem surely can't resist Krueger worming his way into his life again, but there's a distance now. It's no strings attached because Hans has already grieved what he thought they could have two years prior. So they're back to the fwb status, with all the benefits of the years spent together (see my Golem/Krueger headcanons), but Krueger is acutely aware of the hold he still has over Golem, and Hans is acutely aware he's dealing with someone it is healthier not to have.

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Severance (my krueger/golem fic on ao3)'s sequel reached 3k just now in my Word document, it's my slowest E-rated fic yet. I am having SO much fun describing Golem's existensial crisis in great lengths.

this is so fun Krueger is so fun. man masters psychological warfare, sucking dick, AND doing both at once. sorry Hans

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I need to write a 3rd instalment of my kruegergolem series actually. Or at least a MWII drabble with golem being the DE team leader on Specgru and Krueger the chopper pilot for Kortac since it IS the case..