#kronos killing ouranos

[mainepdf]

speaking of kinslaying in ancient greece, it's really ironic how the crux of greek mythology lies on patricide and the cycle of it

[godsofhumanity]

I just started listening to a Hera x Zeus playlist and it's the first song I'm literally tearing up thinking about their relationship.

It's perfect by Ed Sheeran 😭

i forgot what this song was, but when i saw the lyrics i was like “YEAH”. too true.

i don’t listen to playlists myself, but whenever Starring Role and Power & Control by MARINA comes on in my shuffle, it makes me think of Kronos x Rhea 😭

[gingermintpepper]

Recently, I've been thinking a lot about lineage curses.

The line of Ouranos is infested with curses - generational malice that's sunk its claws in deep and cannot be cleansed. I think of it as a curse of love - an affliction that is something like a paternal equivalent to postpartum depression - the men of the line of Ouranos were, for a time, unable to bond with their children. Ouranos himself adored his wife but despised his children from the moment they were born. It was disgust perhaps. Or maybe plain fear. Or maybe there was no reason but a deep wrongfulness that he could only attribute to the birth of his new children. But he hated them and his hatred bred hatred. His hatred bred Kronos.

Kronos oddly, is the spitting image of his father. Why he would so exactly resemble the father he despised, who knows, but he married a goddess of the earth - the mirror image of his mother - he loved his wife and his people - the mirror image of his father - and, like that father, all his kindness and good sense died the moment he became a father. What was it about Ouranos' blood that made Kronos mimic even the method of torment? To lock his children away in the dark, cold emptiness of his stomach. To feed them the same doubts and fears that his brothers were fed as babes? What anguish paranoia must be to turn the Golden King into a shaking, spitting beast.

That, then, is the fate written deep in the blood of Zeus. Great king, destined to be overthrown by his children. Great king, doomed to live in fear of the son that would rend him limb from limb and scatter his sex to the ravens. Ah, but what is Zeus if not an enigma. That strange child fed on goat's manna and raised by his mother - is that the difference? That Zeus alone was showered in the hopes and dreams of his mother - that his father was nothing but a target to kill, an opponent for him to conquer. Is that why his curse of love mutated not to encompass his children but his lovers? What other name is there for he who eats his wife to gain her wisdom? What other name but cursed is he who pursues the stars until she becomes dead ground? And when he has a child who is his spitting image, dark eyed and blood-heeled, what can he do but hate?

(Zeus, at least, battles the demons in his blood on his own. Maybe that is the mother in him. Maybe that is why he swallowed Metis while she was still rich with their child. Maybe swallowing a mother restored that missing paternal hole all his father's line had simply been made without. Maybe that's what he tells himself when he looks upon his children and knows he's made things different for them, no matter how much he dreams of keeping them locked in a cool, dark place, pretty in display cases just for him. Maybe that's just his father in him.)

[comicaurora]

Have you ever notices the weird trait that a lot of the mytic Greek monsters are decendents, or otherwise related to posiden (all sea beasts, cyclops, medusa, minotaur ect) were mostly slain by children of zeus? The rest of the mytic Greek hero's mostly slayed children of typhon and echidna.

Do you think this is somthing to do with the fact that posiden used to the ruler of mychnain pantheon, and zuse took over, so the mytology reflected this by having posiden monster children slain by the heroic children of zeus?

Have you ever noticed any similar patters in mythology involving the chainge of the dominat god?

It's hard to say! The Mycenaean pantheon is very poorly understood since we don't have anything like the corpus of literature we have from Archaic Greece, and as far as I can tell it's mostly been reconstructed from ledgers and the equivalent of receipts - this many jars of stuff to the temple of this god in this region, etc etc. And the idea that Poseidon was central - while apparently widely accepted - doesn't really tell us how Poseidon was characterized back in those days, or how (or if) things shifted to be Zeus-centric later on.

And in the broad scale, it's hard to know for sure if a pantheon's myths reflect an actual shift in what the dominant/central god being worshipped was, or if something else was going on. Mythology rarely maps one-to-one to the historical events it was running in parallel to. There are lots of mythologies with god wars or former leaders of the gods being replaced - Tyr with Odin, Nuada with Lugh, Ra getting merged with a half-dozen different gods to give them his oomph and authority at various times - and it's not clear when a god conflict reflects a real religious shift in who's being worshipped and when it's something else. For instance, classical Greek mythology has loads of themes of sons usurping fathers, starting with Kronos usurping Ouranos and followed by Zeus usurping Kronos - but it doesn't seem like Kronos was historically worshipped in the time before Zeus or anything that simple and clean. Kronos doesn't seem to pre-exist that space of mythology at all.

However, there are tidbits in Greek mythology where a god kills a monster and takes up residence in their place of power, like Apollo killing Python - a monstrous child of Gaia that seems to have potentially been actually worshipped for oracular reasons before Apollo showed up and took over, which would make it a mythical parallel to a real shift in local religious practices. Although again, that is very hard to confirm (and some of the researchers who think that seem to wanna believe it because it very conveniently lets them tie it in with the bible)

this kind of thing is why the deep-dives are my favorite kind of nightmare to subject myself to

So it's hard to say if a myth of a conflict between gods reflects a real-world conflict between religious practices, but all that said, that is a very interesting pattern to note - that Poseidon is more consistently a father of monsters, while Zeus is almost universally a father of heroes.

[wanderingmind867]

Gaea is her son's enabler, which makes her worse. Don't get me wrong, though: Kronos is horrible, and he represents a concept so vile that he almost makes me want to chop him up myself (he gave us the curse of time, and as someone with a fear of aging, i despise kronos). But despite hating kronos on a way more intense and personal level, gaea is herself a little messed up. She did convince kronos to kill his own dad ouranos, after all. Which is why i still think a great pjo sequel concept involves ouranos coming back for revenge. Then we'd have a perfect trifecta of evil: gaea, kronos and ouranos.

[deathlessathanasia]

"Someone should make an "Every Mythical Inaccuracy in The Mythology Guy's 'Every Mythical Inaccuracy in…' Series" video."

That's how I feel specifically about the Mythology Guy, someone should do that with him. Not his biggest fan

Ouranos was killed; Kronos was chopped into pieces; Hades only kidnapped Persephone in certain versions; deities in Greek mythology are supposed to have golden ichor running through their veins; Chaos was the most powerful primordial in all of Greek mythology; before Atlas, four Titans held the sky up with their powers; Spartans were the followers (?) of Ares; the Hydra only regrows whatever head is chopped off, doesn't actually grow more; Hades was so moved by the love story of Alkestis and Admetos that he allowed Herakles to retrieve her from the Underworld; all the thrones of the gods are supposed to be placed in a semicircle (what a precise detail! almost as if it comes from a certain contemporary book series) at the top of mount Olympus; Kratos in Greek mythology constantly seeks out violence; Zeus has the ability to strip away someone's godly powers and has done it to Apollo and Poseidon; according to Hesiod Medusa seduced Poseidon in Athena's temple (kys) and was punished for it; Medusa was Athena's priestess etc. etc. etc.

I get being an insufferable pedant who nitpicks everything, I really do, and given how many people seem to take whatever they learn from any random media based on Greek mythology for granted I see the point to videos like these too. But spreading other misinformation,, stating things for which there is no basis in ancient texts as if they were fact or using Percy Jackson as a source in the process of pointing out inaccuracies is not the way, you know?

[kotamagic]

Content warning for psychological distress on this week's Lore Olympus is real. Don't say you weren't warned.

Last week saw Apollo nigh-forcefully working with Persephone to fix the Mortal Realm crisis. With whatever it was Ouranos gave him, it did what it needed to do. At least, for a little bit.

Not only is the bastard clearly and knowingly making the experience miserable for Persephone, but also his plastic smile looks more fake than usual.

Is that ichor leaking out of his eyes? I hope he's in extreme pain from this little show of his. Fucker deserves all the agent he's put others through.

Next, the douche-canoe goes on a shpeal about how Ouranos "helped" Gaia control her powers. She never needed help with her powers. All that Ouranos did was use them for his own gain.

Everything Apollo says about Gaia needing "fixing" is a lie. Further, he blames her marriage to Hades for causing the extreme winter.

He uses it, as predicted, to lead into ordering Persephone to marry him. That gets him numerous ABSOLUTELY NOTs from across the board.

I can't even begin to imagine how horrifying this is for Persephone. This purple Olympian shit stain is desperate to get at her powers. He thinks he's king and can bully everyone just because Zeus is out cold and he's king's son.

I do wish Artemis would show up at some point. Technically, she's got just as much claim to the thrown as her brother, plus the benefit of common sense and decency.

THE QUEEN SPEAKS!

Welcome to the latest shit-show, Hera! She comes out spouting just about everything the other Olympians and the readers have been thinking and feeling.

I particularly love her emphasis that Persephone "so obviously despises" Apollo.

Oh, this was the cherry & icing on the cake!

With the camera still rolling, she outs Apollo for manipulating Hebe into running away. With her piece spoken, she moves onto the next matter at hand.

DAT EPIC MIC DROP THO!!!!!!

Hera intends to fix several things at once by doing what is possibly the most dangerous thing.

Kronos has stated that he won't cooperate unless he's given his "Golden Traitor" back. Hera knows it's dangerous. Her vision from a few chapters back showed her likely getting either killed or completely wrecked in a direct confrontation with Kronos.

And yet, she's willing to take that risk, not just for herself, but others as well. Persephone has been kind to her in multiple ways; the least she can do is give something back.

Maybe they'll save Hades. Maybe they'll save Melinöe. Maybe they'll kick Kronos' ass. Maybe they'll get Persephone's spring powers back. Maybe they'll even find the cure for Zeus. There's so much that can come out of this that the extreme danger feels worth the risk.

We shall see.

BONUS:

ARES VS APOLLO (with everyone else now), ROUND 2!

FUCK HIM UP, ARES! I WANNA SEE A LOT MORE ICHOR ON HIS UGLY FACE NEXT WEEK!

ANYWAY, THANKS FOR COMING TO MY LO POST!!!!!!!

[justmenoworries]

Lore Olympus Episode 272 Spoilers

Soooo, Hera's not dead.

Shocker.

Not like we've been spending several past episodes hammering it in that gods literally can't die.

Like, the most Apollo and Ouranos could do was sent Zeus into a coma. Metis is a star. Rhea went into hibernation. Hera survived being ripped in two.

Why were we supposed to think Hera would die from Kronos squeezing her a bit?

More importantly, why would Hera think that??

Once again, baby Dionysus has to do all the thinking because his kidnapper adoptive mom is too busy getting stuck in her own tiny tiny head to actually think about solutions. Love how Persie isn't nearly as horrified as she should be that her fucking child is in the same room as a known mass murderer. Oh, and another thing, I know it's petty but I just have to point it out:

Persephone: "I have no idea how you got here but I'm definitely going with a different sitter next time."

Gentle reminder that the reason Persephone stole Dionysus from Zeus was that she didn't like that Zeus wanted to give Dio to a commune of nymphs instead of raising Dio himself.

Yet here she is, pushing the responsibility of watching Dionysus onto random babysitters we've never even gotten to see. While she herself only spends times with Dio when it's convenient. Dio's been so neglected and ignored he was able to sneak into the Underworld and then into Tartarus unbothered. During a time when everyone was supposedly on high alert.

A+ parenting there Persie, so glad Dio's growing up with you instead of a group of loving attentive nymphs./s

Apparently we're back to Persie not knowing how her new powers work. And needing, I'll say it again the help of a literal baby to realize that maybe her powers changed because she changed in more than one way.

Another cliffhanger because RS will put filler into even the finale even if it kills the pacing.

[6bluebells]

Okay, so the realization is about Zeus but the headcanon itself is about everyone across the godly-generation and/or those who hold that as apart of their title/duties [ie: Titan-Gods, Primordial-Gods, God-Spirits, Spirit-Gods, etc]. It's about how the God Generation was created by the Fates with complete and utter freedoms concerning their powers and free will as opposed to the Titans who are controlled almost entirely by the Fates via their Purpose (pre-defined traits and positions given to each Titan who was born, such as if they would serve a combat role or even how many children they would have + what their children would do] or their respective Primordials for their Powers/Gifts [have not figured out which one they would be called yet]. They were created this way and created in general for Primordial Entertainment, as most Primordials had either become bored or tired of their domains and delegating out their domain's tasks, but it had an unexpected outcome: the concept of rebellion.

You see, Kronos's rebellion against Ouranos was planned. It was one of the main reasons why the generation of Titans came to be, along with the fact that the Primordials grew lazy but still had to perform their tasks as assigned by Primordial Khaos and enforced by Primordial Gaia. It was one of Kronos's main Purposes [to overthrow Primordial Ouranos] but it never helped that Ouranos was a horrible father. Furthermore, Koios, Hyperion, Krios and Iapetus were also Created and Meant to hold down Ouranos and become the four pillars of the earth. Of course, the Primordial Fates did not quite know what they were doing when pairing the Titan Kronos, who had a prophecy over his head stating that his children would kill him the same way he did his father, and the Titan Rhea, who had been dreaming of being a mother since she knew what the word meant, but the Fates went as the tapestries went. They were both dictating it and watching it be dictated. Everything was slowly falling into order as they fell into order, there was no One Thing that dictated all, not even Primordial Khaos.

Anyway, back to what that means. This means that the Titans don't at all have bodily autonomy, which affected almost every single part of their everyday lives. Husbands treat wives horribly, sisters and brothers rough-house meanly, fathers act like drill sergeants, and mothers smiled like nothing was wrong. Some of them knew it was wrong, like Rhea and Phoebe, while others accepted it or just lived in ignorance. There was nothing to be done, anyway, and so further down the family line you went, the more ignorant and accepting the Titans were. Despite all of this, despite all of the things that would spark a country-wide rebellion in the later years of humanity, the Titans did not think of rebellion. They could not think of rebellion. These things and these relationships were ingrained so deep in their being that they knew and could not think of another way. They knew the story of their origins; they knew the story of Kronos, but it was so inconceivably far away that nobody connected the dots.

Until Zeus came along. Eventually, Kronos caved to his Wife and Purpose and he and Rhea had 6 children. Hestia, who was a Titan but with the free-thinking of a God. Demeter, who had the power of a God but still held a Titan's Purpose. Hera, who was so in-tuned with her God-Hood that she could create new concepts and strategies unthought of before and even hold deep emotions such as Hate but had no Powers to think of. Hades who was more Primordial than Titan or God. Poseidon was was so tuned to his Power and the Earth that free-thinking was forced to come along with it. And, finally, Zeus who was perfect and everything the Fates imagined him to be. The Perfect God. The only one across the pantheon who had no other generation's blood or concepts running through his veins. And, since he had the power to think freely and with what will be human judgements, he saw the world and decided to Rebel.

For the first time in millions of years, a movement was brought on by something other than Fate. Many turned him away at first--thinking it preposterous and laughable as a Purpose. Others turned him away because they balked at the fact that any Primordial would allow him such power--Kronos was their ruler now, and a pretty good one. Even Rhea, who just wanted a child who she could raise and knew that this would eventually become her Purpose, was a little hesitant at how quickly he latched onto it and the reasons he gave. Yes, eating children was wrong but it was never her first thought of hate-. Nobody quite thought that this was the sign of a new generation coming around--most thought Zeus, from young to the middle of the Titan War, to be a weird Titan--but, to history and what would become of the gods, this was astronomical. This concept--free will and rebellion--would be the defining point going further into history.

But you know what realization's truly tripping me up about this concept? The fact that, truly, if Kronos decided to raise his children well, there will be no rebellion. Zeus would not rebel anyway because he was destined to or just because he could, because he would have been content with his life. Hera would be spiteful but she would not Hate. The others will embrace their Titan-Family with open arms because they are accepting. Of course, Zeus and Hera would raise their eyebrows at the way their cousins are treating each other and being treated, but that would soon be fixed. It will be written in their Purposes to be fixed :).

[Just... ******just*****]

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I love your world building hcs so much <3 honestly they feed me /gen /pos

[mizzy-pop]

FIC SEARCH

i've been looking for a fic i read once for hours now, because i can't stop thinking about the parts of it that i can remember, but no matter what tag combinations i try on ao3, nothing comes up and i don't remember the title or author, so :)

PJO fic, it was some kind of au where i think Ouranos returned or something??? i remember Percy hiding from the sky being a big thing. generally everyone, both mortals and gods, were killed fairly quickly, i think, because the enemy could see everything, and Percy was, of course, the last one to survive.

big thing about this fic is that it either had a good Kronos, or Kronos redemption, or something like this??? Percy was the only non-monster around, but for some reason he had some mental or spiritual connection to Kronos, and basically in the end i'm pretty sure good ole granddad was the only being keeping Percy from completely losing his mind. there was some mental/spiritual grandson & grandfather bonding, i think, although i don't think they could actually talk to each other. i'm pretty sure at some point Percy had a panic attack and Kronos calmed him down via magical-connection-and-loving-grandfatherly-vibes, and at some point Percy hid in an abandoned school building, i think.

anyway, by the end i think there might've been some time travel involved???? to try and prevent the end of the world??? no idea, can't really remember. maybe a godly power transfer, so Percy could use Kronos' powers??? no clue.

i'm pretty sure the fic was a oneshot, though i couldn't tell you how long. not longer than 20k, i don't think?

please help me TT i've been trying to find it for so long i'm starting to think i dreamt it up

***EDIT***

it's been found! turns out the author has added chapters and is continuing the story, which is why i couldn't find it, because i was looking for a completed oneshot, lol

it's Gold Heart by gardengalaxy, for anyone interested.

thank you @8teddy-bear8!

[fuckimrowan]

do you guys think jason ever thought of his place in the cycle. where the son kills the father, then replaces him.

kronos slaughtered ouranos. zeus did the same to kronos. and now, zeus too has a son: and that son is him, jason grace.

do you ever think that in his worst moments he truly wonders how it would feel; he closes his eyes and it scares him that he can see it, himself with gladius in hand, ichor covering his skin and the acrid smell of burning; something deformed and dead lying at his feet, never stopping the flow of ichor.

maybe when gaia offered him to join them, made him envision it, that had never been his first time.

he doesn't tell anyone. but the thoughts runs over in his mind, the vision sharpening itself over years of imagining it that now he can even hear his own ragged breathing. and most nights, he can't sleep because of it.

when he can, he still sees it in his dreams.

[imthediamondintherough]

@0lympian-c0uncil

Lore Chthonic Order

Character stuffs!

(Sorry for the ping if it shocked you)

Tartarus relationships

Tartarus has a mostly ok relationship with many other Greek deities... By this I mean most of them fear him or at least have a verifiable wariness of him. (Understandable he is a primordial)

I can't reveal all his relationships but I can tell you the important ones.

As far as things go with his son... Anthony, They are improving. Sometimes they may act like siblings rather than father and son but at least they don't go out of their way to cause problems.

*Zeus, the notepad use it.*

Terrified of Demeter "a little bit". And by default her Daughter.

Respects Hera for tolerating Zeus. Sometimes teams up with Ares to yell at Zeus about his affairs...

Zeus is wisely and uncharacteristically quiet and behaves well for a few decades. Then does his own thing... This cycle repeats.

Everyone will probably hate me for this but Tartarus relationship with Gaea is a bit strained.

Initially Tartarus loved her (and he probably still does) but she more or less had a affinity for Ouranos. Not wrong. earth loved the sky; Tartarus probably thought it was ironic at best (don't hate him. he doesn't know what soap operas are and to be fair at that time they didn't exist..) He respected Gaea's decision and contemplated sending a gift and then sort of moved on.

He tried at least.

Flash forward some years a few of Gaea's children are thrown down. Ok Tartarus really didn't like the new complaining voices but he couldn't be bothered to get rid of them. He let Nyx make some new friends-- anything to get them to stop whining about how things weren't great with Ouranos.

Tartarus didn't give any fucks about what was happening above ground. And for a little while was out of the loop of info so he was understandably confused when gaea (haha former crush) came sobbing to him about how her grandchildren had been disrespectful! killing their own father and whatnot and how she just wanted her family to be happy but they couldn't stay peaceful to save their lives. So she'd start from scratch. But she really wanted his help. Yeah Tartarus actually fell for it and agreed.

It was good. It was fine. at first.

Gaea's last relationship didn't go well so it's understandable she'd keep her new partner at arms length. Tartarus could understand that. Tartarus was extremely patient with Gaea but her behavior drastically altered when she realized her exact position in Tartarus's mind.

If you're confused think Morticia and Gomez from the Addams family. But morticia is more manipulative (in subtle ways)

At some point it occurred to her that Tartarus had assimilated Kronos her son. Well she figured Tartarus couldn't be too bright given his location and his seemingly despondent disposition; this meant he could be fairly simple to seduce. Gaea is almost successful. Yes they have kids together but she didn't get any of the pieces of Kronos from Tartarus. Mostly because Tartarus's apathy interfered and he couldn't be bothered to play search and find

After Typhoon was sired Gaea decided the relationship was over since even she hadn't gotten what she wanted she did still get something to her advantage. Tartarus immediately fell into a depression from heartbreak and didn't recover for a few centuries. Rhea spent a lot of her time trying to get him to snap out of it. That was probably the best since her own children didn't appear to need her...

Although Gaea seperated, (since she felt it was time to explore her existence without a male) she did appreciate and thank Tartarus's kindness. Tartarus being classified as gloomy and depressing lived up to that description by making his apathy more obvious. On occasion more damned souls were carted there for imprisonment and Tartarus could care less.

At some point thirty years prior the start of the story he decided to learn why humans were so interesting to the other deities.

Yeah I know it's not accurate to the myth but I'm really imaginative and kinda self centered and it's mythology! Should be fine.

If there is a goddess or deity you wish to know about, I'm pretty sure my ask box is still open.

Any complaints let me know and I'll do my best not to be a dick about it and fix it.

Happy New Year's

[godsofhumanity]

I require sustinance (themis headcanons)

i gotchu fam:

ok tbh Themis' lore is a bit sparse,, when she's in myth, it's usually just as a supporting character.

now, personally, i've always hc'd her to be headstrong and very loud.

she's the personification of justice and law, so i think she's very sure of herself and she always believes what she is doing is right.

i've said this a lot, but i'll say it again; i think that, growing up, she and Iapetus (remembering that Themis is a Titan) got along the worst... because Iapetus, to me, is a prankster with somewhat loose morals, and Themis is more rigid.

i love the idea of Themis becoming the victim of most of Iapetus and Kronos' tomfoolery because she gave the biggest reactions haha

as she grows up, i think Themis never loses any of her hot-headedness. i do think that in Kronos' court, she keeps a seat as a counsellor and gives her little brother a lot of advice-- no one's ever really been officially king before Kronos (Ouranos hardly counts), so it's a big role and i think it's important that there is someone to give Kronos advice.

of course, as time passes, Kronos becomes more paranoid and trusts in Themis all the less. i think this is because he knows, in his heart, that if Themis knew what he had done to his children, she'd have kicked him off his throne immediately.

and i do believe that the only reason why Kronos gets away with eating 6 children and none of the other titans stage a coup before that time is because Kronos was just so sneaky about it,, no one really had a reason to suspect anything was wrong.

now i think it's possible that after Zeus was born and it became clear that he would rescue everyone from Kronos' terror, that Themis would have been one of Zeus' teachers.

Hyginus suggests that Themis and Amalthea both nursed Zeus and she was like a foster-mother to him, but i personally like the idea that NONE of the other titans knew about Zeus before he defeated Kronos-- it was so imperative that Rhea keep his birth a secret,, she didn't know who she could trust. so, no, i don't think Themis raised Zeus in that sense.

i think she would taken the young Zeus under her wing and been sure to teach him what it is to be king and how to rule and the role of the law.

this is also where, Zeus, ever charming, i think manages to sway Themis romantically.

it's funny because, most of the Titans end up marrying their siblings, which makes sense myth-wise, but the only ones who don't are: Iapetus (who marries an Oceanid), Crius (who married Pontus' daughter Eurybia), Themis and Mnemosyne,, and the latter two don't really get "officially married" (i guess, or at least, no one today really considers them married), but they do end up being consorts of Zeus. which is hilarious to me. he had a thing for older women for sure.

also, given that Themis isn't one to love pranks and "smooth-talkers" like Iapetus, it's even more hilarious that she ends up falling for Zeus of all people, who to me, is definitely a prankster and smooth-talker.

i think this is a testament to Zeus' charisma, and also his good-naturedness. i know that's a strange word to put in the same sentence as "Zeus", but i do think, especially in his youth, he was very much a hero. a good guy, sweet and kind.

in a world where there has been so much of terror, first with Ouranos and then with Kronos, i think Themis recognises Zeus' goodwill and being an oracle herself, may have known that things would be better with Zeus.

timeline wise, i think Zeus and Themis get together after Metis (she is usually considered the 2nd wife),, and most likely, while she was a teacher to Zeus before he even got with Metis, i think she may have later acted in the role of a comforter to Zeus after he inadvertently kills her (by swallowing her) and that's how they became closer.

in the Iliad, it is written that Themis was the first to "offer her cup" to Hera after she fights with Zeus, and i think this is very sweet of Themis. i don't think Hera has any beef with Themis because her relationship with Zeus happened much before Hera's own, and Themis' children (the Horae) do not interfere with Hera and her children.

i hc that Hera has a lot of respect for Themis. she is an aunt to her, and is very dear.

i imagine that Oceanus and Themis remain close, so that may also be where Hera and Themis have spent a lot of time together (the lore says that Hera was raised in Oceanus' house).

in Olympus, it's said that Themis nursed Apollo when he was born, and later, she also advised Aphrodite on how to raise Eros (because apparently he was growing lol), so i like the idea that Themis is very motherly. i think she sorta just takes care of everyone on Olympus,, a bit like a Hestia-type character perhaps.

[butchkaramazov]

Hey, I hope you're doing well, I see your TUMBLR posts and your page filled so beautifully with greek mythologies, poetry and art. I have always had a keen interest in Greek mythology but couldn't ever pick it up, I was wondering if you could help me to start from the very basics? I can totally understand if you don't want to.

hi, of course i'd love to help you! the basics of every civilization starts with its mythology (in my opinion), so here's an overview of the gods and what came before them.

according to hesiod, the golden age was the mythical first period of man. the people of the golden age were created by/for the titan kronos/cronus/saturn (for romans). humans lived "like gods", i.e. never engaging in too much physical labour, when they died, it was a peaceful death. spring never ended. it is even described as a period in which people aged backward. when they died, they became daimones (a greek word only later converted to "demons") who roamed the earth.

kronos, screwing up here, castrated his own parents (ouranos and gaia - the sky and the earth, respectively) and they foretold that one of his own children is destined to overthrow him as he usurped his father. rhea, his wife, hearing this, was distraught and went to seek help from ouranos and gaia upon becoming pregnant with her sixth child. by now, kronos had developed a habit of swallowing his children so as to prevent the prophecy from materialising. fast forward to the present and rhea gives kronos a stone to eat instead of his sixth child. the child whose life was spared was called zeus, and he later took his place as lord of the sky and king of the olympians (gods).

zeus killed kronos and freed his siblings from his father's stomach, thereby signifying the beginning of a new age (silver age). now, we move on to the gods.

the big three: zeus (god of the sky), poseidon (god of the sea), hades (god of the underworld).

a list of all greek deities.

one thing you absolutely need to know about all the gods (except for athena (goddess of war, handicraft and practical reasoning), artemis (goddess of the hunt, the wilderness, childbirth, care of children and chastity), dionysus (god of wine and pleasure), hades, hestia (goddess of the hearth and warmth) and a few others) is that none of them can keep it in their pants. none of them. and their accusing fingers always point to the woman they lust after. (also they're all bisexual, except for artemis, who is a full-on lesbian.)

myths you can check out for further insight:

hyakinthos (hyacinthus)

minotauros (minotaur)

ariadne

arakhne

orpheus and eurydice

i find this website particularly helpful when it comes to surface-level (but reliable) research.

also remember that the same myth has numerous versions, some of them not even recorded, perhaps. there is no moral way to view the gods. they were simply created to explain the cruelty and the absurdism of nature. plays and artworks based on myths differ from place to place, and these differing versions simply offer us greater insight into the minds of the people rather than the "moral goodness" of the gods.

differentiating between reliable and unreliable sources is a must, and i would recommend logging onto internet archive if you want to read classical texts and immerse yourself in in-depth research.

hope this helps! <3

[percabeth4life]

In some Mythos the Titans never left the Earth(aka see the outside) until Kronos killed Ouranos, meaning Hyperion&Krios probably never saw Light(except maybe his own, unless he only started to glow afterwards) or Constellations before this

anyway, Kronos is the best

Kronos IS the best. But really it's both sad and beautiful. Just think of Krios looking up at the stars for the first time?

[wanderingmind867]

Each of the twelve original Titans and who they fought for during the Second Titan War:

Let's start with the obvious ones:

Kronos: Naturally leading his side of the war. I hate Kronos, but this one is obvious.

Hyperion: Serving as a Commander in his brother Kronos's army. We see him during the Battle of Olympus, so this one is pretty obvious.

Iapetus: Fought for Kronos, only to lose his memory and become Bob. I really doubt you can kill a Titan (you can't kill Kronos, at least), so I imagine Iapetus/Bob is still out there after the Heroes of Olympus series. Maybe he's finally regained his memories (I can't remember if he already did that). He deserves that much, at least.

Crius: I believe the Lost Hero says that Crius fought the Roman demigods while Hyperion got to fight the Greek demigods. So Crius almost definitely fought on his brother Kronos's side.

Coeus: According to the Percy Jackson wiki, Coeus fought with Kronos. I don't think we ever saw him in the books though. I guess Coeus is the forgotten Titan, despite being the maternal grandfather of Hecate, Apollo and Artemis through his two daughters, Leto and Asteria.

Oceanus: I believe Oceanus fights on his brother Kronos's side in the Pjo series. I don't know why he's fighting on Kronos's side, seeing as he didn't help Kronos castrate Ouranos like the rest of his brothers did. But maybe it's just because of family loyalty, or something. Idk.

Now let's take some educated guesses on the female Titans. We know all six male first generation titans fought for Kronos, but what about the women of the family?:

Rhea: Seeing as Rhea is the mother of the gods, it makes sense for her to support her kids in this conflict. Besides, would Rhea really supoort Kronos? He was an awful husband, probably an awful brother and definitely an awful parent. So Rhea was probably on the side of her kids.

Theia: Well, Rhea and Theia. Guess Gaea and Ouranos weren't feeling unique when it came to those two, him? But anyway, I think Theia would be fighting with Kronos. Largely because her husband and brother is Hyperion, one of the leading commanders of the Titan army. Also, Theia and Hyperion had three kids: Helios, Selene and Eos. We know Helios and Selene were abandoned and their roles given to Artemis and Apollo. Not sure about Eos, though. But anyways, I think that Helios and Selene's treatment would help make Theia bitter towards her other relatives. She's probably fighting with Kronos to support her husband and get revenge for her kids.

Themis: Being the Titaness of Justice, I don't think it'd be right for Themis to pick a side. Justice is impartial, and all that. So I imagine she was completely neutral. Kind of like the Fates, probably. She just acted as a neutral observer.

Mnemosyne: I'm not really sure about Mnemosyne. She did have children with Zeus in the nine muses. And she doesn't seem to have much to gain from supporting Kronos. So I don't know. My best guess is: she either stayed completely neutral or she sided with Olympic. You can choose which you think is more likely. Personally, I'm leaning towards her being neutral.

Phoebe: I feel like Phoebe is stuck between a rock and hard spot. Her husband Coeus is fighting for Kronos, as is her grandchild Hecate. Yet her other two grandchildren, Apollo and Artemis, are fighting for Olympus. I feel like Phoebe is going to stay neutral, for fear of a tearing a rift within her family.

Tethys: Being that Tethys is married to Oceanus, she probably took a similar stance to his. So she probably fought for Kronos alongside her husband, but I don't really think she did it because she had any deep devotion to Kronos. I think she probably just did it because she wanted to be with her husband. Maybe also because she nursed Helios and Selene when they were young (at least according to wikipedia). So maybe she also wanted revenge for them?

So to recap:

On Kronos's Side: Kronos, Hyperion, Crius, Coeus, Oceanus, Iapetus, Tethys and Theia.

On the side of Olympus: Rhea and maybe Mnemosyne.

On no side: Themis, Phoebe, and maybe Mnemosyne.