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transwegath · 2 years ago
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Vegas to Pete: from now on, you're no longer my pet
Macau, pretending to be asleep on the sofa: what the fuck
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fruityuncleskeletor · 2 years ago
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Headcanon of Pete and Vegas sharing a living space after the safe house and the whole coup and recovery? I mean I am curious about whether they would share the same room and bed from the get go. Like I feel that in the initial days with Pete having started to live with the minor family brothers, there would be kind of a hesitation. A need to check the waters. Thoughts?
( this is actually a copy pasted ask. I am going around collecting opinions)
Wow! Thanks for the ask!. I mean, Vegas is used to hiding his trysts from Macau, but Pete is so much more than that, he made that very clear when he cried and told Pete he is the most important person in his life with Macau in the room. And I think that Pete would be reluctant to move into Vegas' room not because he is ashamed or anything, but because it might feel odd to be so intimate and familiar with someone who was hierarchically above him for so long. Vegas would sense that and he would suggest that they have a shared bedroom and that each of them have his own room for times when they need to be alone. This is actually a nice practice shared by long term couples regardless of sexuality. Not sleeping together all the time does keep the relationship feeling fresh and special.
Pete would definitely go over his own hangups about sleeping with Vegas in one bed from the get-go, because he would want to be there and help if Vegas has nightmares or trouble sleeping. Also, it would not matter that Macau sees them sharing one room and one bed, because while he is happy that his hia is happy and in love, he feels it is his sacred duty as a little shit to roast Vegas for it.
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iamfujoshiwe · 2 months ago
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*KPTS Ep 14* Kim : I think I'm falling for you. Chay : Then get up.
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yujeong · 1 year ago
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Istg whoever was responsible for the background music for kpts must have chosen them based on the titles first and foremost, because I just found the music that was playing when Vegas found Gun dead on the floor and proceeded to point his gun at Korn in ep 14, and it's this one: Trevor Kowalski - A Most Dignified Betrayal and I'm just 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃
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chalkrevelations · 1 year ago
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Ok, I've pushed this back twice now, maybe if I post about it, it will compel me to actually get started on it. There's no way I can maintain a rewatch of KPTS at the speed of an episode a week, with everything else I've got going on - not the way I want to deep dive and pull out nuances and look for connections.
So. Beginning in September, I 'm starting a KPTS rewatch at the slow crawl of 15 minutes of the show per week. Or, really, 1/4 of an episode per week (except Ep 14, which will probably be five parts). But that doesn't sound as catchy as 15-Minute Friday, in my head. Anyway, this means around 13 months to get through the entire show, if anyone else is interested in this wagon-train.
(I'm planning to watch sometime on Fridays. The thoughts will likely continue to pop up past that.)
Hashtag "kp 15m"
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chalkrevelations · 1 year ago
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Hmm.
srb partly because someone liked it recently and brought it back to my attention but also because now I look back particularly at this part
I do think there’s something thematically going on here not only with the symbolism of Pete as the universal giver donor vs. Vegas as the universal taker recipient but also to the way it’s set against Vegas’s drive to be an overachieving service top need to feed Pete and Pete’s voraciousness  hunger  need to be fed. They manage to hold those two oppositional dynamics in various approximations of balance as they spin out the relationship through the course of the show, and ... the blood-type conversation strikes me as a way to get to some of that, and when Pete says he’s type O, he’s saying he can give and give and give, but he couples it with the desire to be type AB, essentially saying, “I wish I could take and take and take while someone else could give and give and give,” i.e. “I’M HUNGRY, and I want someone who can FEED ME until I’m bursting with it.”
with some additional time and knowledge under my belt, and now it makes me wonder, well, first of all, how much Bee Pongsate's fingerprints actually might be all over the KPTS script despite the fact that we never hear about him (maybe he's too bl for BOC to want to cop to having in their DNA?), and also what complexities we might still get to see in the KanghanSailom relationship in Dangerous Romance.
A lot of people seem to have thrown up their hands and given up on DR because of what they see as a facile and unsatisfying turn to domesticity - although it always baffles me when they point to the writing team's resume as a reason it shouldn't be happening that way, given Bad Buddy was the comparison I immediately made and called out for having given cheap treatment of bullying that went immediately down the memory hole in favor of that show's romance. But also, we've seen in the trailers that deep-seated issues between Kanghan and Sailom come to a head in scenes we've yet to see on the show. Things are going to get complicated and messy again. None of that's solved, it's just tamped down under the surface. DR keeps reminding me of a Vegaspete HS AU, and a kind of look on the slant at what it might be like if the speedrun of KP Eps 11-14 were actually a full season long. We're not even halfway through. I'd argue we're at the "Pete's blissful smile at having the best sex of his life in Ep 12" stage, which means there's still plenty of time for Vegas's Kanghan's bullshit to catch up with them and things to go horribly wrong before they can be resolved.
I don't know, maybe I'll be proved wrong in the upcoming weeks. But I look at the complexity of the VP relationship, exemplified by that balancing act of character dynamics that happens in this blood-type conversation, and I have to wonder what Perth and Chimon might be to be able to dig out of Kanghan and Sailom before we're through.
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normal conversations to have with your kidnapper part 2 (1)
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kinnspocketporsche · 3 years ago
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Rewrite: Starting over
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Why?
Don't think about the parallels, don't think about Pete having an actual answer this time around, don't think about how "I can't run off to anywhere" isn't just Pete choosing Vegas, it's Pete deciding to give himself no other choice. He's not just refusing to run off, he's not allowing it to be an option. Handing the rope to Vegas, all over again.
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If you run now, I'm alright with that.
Don't think about Vegas being unconditionally selfless for the first time and giving Pete a way out anyway. Don't think about how this is better than all of the apologies because they're literally rewriting their lowest moment, going back and correcting all the wrongs of the past in order to move foward.
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I got nothing left.
For sure don't think about this fucking line getting reused. Reframed. Don't think about the way it was originally Pete who was split open, hurt and empty, the fight drained out of him. How this was Pete with nothing left to give. Don't think about how now the fight is out of Vegas. How his will to keep taking is gone.
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I don't want to be your burden. I just want to follow my heart.
Don't think about this confirmation that staying isn't just what Pete needs, what Vegas needs, it's what they both want.
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From now on, you're no longer my pet. You're the most important person in my life.
Don't think about how it's so important for to them that they have this conversation in full before they even consider touching each other. Don't think about the way healing is important to them. Don't think about how KP said "Can we start all over?" and VP went ahead and did this.
Are y'all fucking??? Okay??????? Because I'm not.
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leebitslove · 3 years ago
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my dads are in love
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kinnxporsche · 3 years ago
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One thing I did not know I needed until I saw it: Vegas kissing Pete’s dimple. Not just his cheek.
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followdelight · 2 years ago
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Pete and Sub Drop (a short essay)
Or: how VegasPete could have had a much better time transitioning to a consensual relationship, if Pete wasn’t in unmitigated and intense sub drop for days after they had sex for the first time.
Okay basically I just need to talk about how KPTS perfectly depicted sub drop in Ep 13/14 without even trying?  I’m convinced the writers had zero idea that that was what they were doing but it is EXQUISITE and I need to talk about it.  It’s so clear they were intending to portray Pete being conflicted and pining after Vegas (and they succeeded!), but on a much much deeper level, supported textually, almost 100% of Pete’s behavior in the last 2 episodes could be attributed specifically to sub drop, and it’s gloriously executed.
In eps 13/14, Pete exhibits easily like, 75% of symptoms often attributed to sub drop.  Including: Fatigue, crying, sadness or melancholy, anxiety, agitation, depression, confusion, guilt, shame, aches & pains, stomach aches/nausea, general malaise.
Now, sub drop can happen to the best of us and for a myriad of reasons but there are always ways to mitigate the damage.
The 2 major causes of sub drop are:
Lack of (adequate) prep
Lack of (adequate) aftercare
In re: prep, they fully failed to prepare either physically or emotionally before the scene.  Pete was underfed/dehydrated/in pain (so not in a good physical state, generally), and in a heightened state of emotion (for literal days, all of the emotions) before/during the scene.  They had no discussion of limits or safety beforehand and essentially no foundation of trust.
Likewise, after the scene, there was essentially no aftercare: Vegas didn’t provide Pete with either skin to skin contact/physical comfort, or a blanket for warmth (they lay side by side but Pete is not held).  They did not discuss the scene, nor did Vegas provide Pete with any words of affirmation or comfort to assuage any feelings of shame that can linger after scenes (no, Vegas, telling Pete “do you know how sexy you are” does not count).  Pete was not provided sustenance – food/water/sugar – to help regulate the endorphin crash (Vegas tried, this one was not necessarily on him, although you can already see symptoms of drop in Pete – fatigue, malaise/hints of sadness – before Vegas leaves to go make food).
And then we see and incredible and exhaustive progression of textbook sub drop symptoms:
Confusion/Guilt/Shame: Pete asking himself why he let it happen, he didn’t like it
Depression/Sadness & Crying: Pete’s breakdown saying he feels useless
Agitation: Pete hitting himself + his explosive anger at Vegas (continuation also of shame, not feeling human)
Fatigue/aches & pains: We see this as Pete stiffly and shakily makes his way back home.  He is physically exhausted – bc of his journey?  Absolutely.  But I think that being in drop accounts for some of that as well.
Stomach aches/nausea + Crying/Depression: Pete trying and failing to eat his noodles, heightened emotions/depression can often cause a physical reaction, both his lack of desire to eat (yes it’s also an emotional response to the exact food he’s trying to eat being tied to his memories of Vegas, but I’m calling it)
General malaise: Pete’s lack of interest in the party Tankhun throws him, his entire demeanor when he goes out to get a smoke and looks despondent leaning against the pole.
When Vegas arrives, he starts the cycle again from the top, cycling through more or less the same series of emotions, although starting with anger this time, then going through shame/confusion/sadness/crying etc.  But by the time they get to the minor family’s attempted coup, I think most of Pete’s physiological symptoms of sub drop have faded/passed, and his emotional responses and actions seem to come from a place of a little more clarity.  
Of course there’s still a lot of confusion, bc the situation is still fucked up, but his anger in the garage, and then his confession by the pool, are clearly deliberate choices Pete makes, as opposed to his earlier behaviors after leaving Vegas.  The Pete who could only sit in a tub and lie, or cry in front of a bowl of noodles, or stand alone and try to smile at Yok’s, is gone; replaced by a new Pete awakened by Vegas – a man who isn’t afraid to demand what he wants because he knows it’s within reach.
So the tl;dr is this: I think the writing of Pete’s character in episodes 13/14 is truly incredible.  I have never in my life seen sub drop depicted so thoroughly.  And as someone who has had severe sub drop that lasted days due to lack of prep/aftercare, it looked something very much like Pete in this episode and I just….  Hats off to the writers, I salute you.
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kpdeek · 3 years ago
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Episode 14 Predictions (After the Fight)
This is a continuation post from my Episode 14 Predictions (The Couples) post. When I first started watching KP, I used to make inferences about what's going to happen. Then at some point I stopped because the show took impressive twists and turns that I didn't see coming. But, with the final episode coming up, I thought, huh. This might be something fun to do for the last time.
I've split these posts into multiple because they're pretty long. This post will focus on what I think will happen after the fight at the main family house, and how I think the season will conclude. Assuming everything I've imagined in my previous posts actually happens:
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KimChay will make up and be 'friends' on the way to rekindling their relationship. Basically starting from scratch. Kim is too closed off as a person for his personality to do a complete 180, and Chay is too wise and stubborn to just simply take him back. But considering most of their relationship was offscreen, and looked to be more serious than the show initially let on, I'm prepared to be wrong.
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As for KinnPorsche, I can't see anything but a happy ending. They've done so well working through every other issue they've faced. They've been more mature than I expected time and again, so I don't see how they wouldn't work things out this time. I just really, really, really want them to stay together in the end, therefore I'm manifesting that 'happy' ending.
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VegasPete won't be together. Yet. I say this because in my previous post I guessed that Vegas might get shot, so we would end the season with him healing in hospital. Pete might leave the major family because he wants to be by Vegas's side, and Kinn might see this as a conflict of interest (even IF Vegas was fighting on his side in the fight). I'd be satisfied with this kind of ending/beginning for them because they can start anew in a world outside of the dungeon or safe house, in a brighter and more optimistic world now that Kan is dead (I think Kan will die. If not, then Korn better. One of the brothers needs to die in order for me to be satisfied).
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TimeTay: I'm certain Time and Tay have an entire story to be told, and that could be something the producers have put aside for a potential season 2 (again, Pond did say that the show was written with the intention of having a follow up season, but nothing has been confirmed regarding that thus far). I would have liked to see more of them, but there was a lot the show couldn't fit in with the number of episodes there are, so I understand why we didn't. Will we see them in the final EP? Probably, at the end, after the dust from the fight has settled. Oooh, but maybe we'll get another reference to Tem and what may have happened between him and Time? I'd like to see them in the fight, though, arriving to back up their friend. But seeing as how they dipped when Korn arrived to Porsche's house in EP12, this is highly unlikely. They wouldn't get involved in main family affairs.
Jom, Tem: they're not a couple, and so far have been static characters throughout the show. I know in the novels Tem is involved in the TimeTay relationship somehow, but I don't see that happening in the last episode (unless something is referenced, of course). But I think they'll mostly stay static until the end, and will find out what Porsche has been working as this entire time.
Some questions I have that I don't necessarily have inferences for: Does Kinn complete the power transition and officially take over the leadership of their clan? Or does he make the decision to leave and follow Porsche (because I don't see Porsche remaining a bodyguard after all this)? When he finds out about VegasPete, what will his reaction be? If Vegas fights on his side, then his reaction can't be too violent. If Vegas is fighting against him, then I expect to see a highly pissed off Kinn. And if Kinn does defect from his leadership role, then who takes over?
Okay, I'm driving myself crazy as I write this on KPTS Finale Eve (it's still Friday for me 🥲), because I see all the issues with these predictions even as I write them out and think on them some more. But as mentioned in my previous posts, this is just for fun and something I like to do to pass the time in between episodes. I look forward to everything I've guessed being wrong, and I won't even be upset about it.
EDIT: Big lives. Just because I want him to.
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myezblog · 3 years ago
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about the did boc save the best for the last, honestly, i'd love if that was the case but seeing how boc treats characters other than kinn and porsche (and especially vegas and pete compared to KP), i'm not holding my breath. up until now, other characters (notably vegas but pete and others as well) have simply existed to advance KP's storyline. they are just pawns with not agency of their own.
boc definitely wildly underestimated how popular VP is and especially how sensitive their storyline is. like, they've already taken a few traits from VP's relationship and pushed them to kinn and porsche (the whole no kissing thing from vegas to kinn and the way vegas lowkey wants porsche to be the one to kill him), meaning they either don't understand shit about the relationship between VP or they're just way too biased towards KP (or both). underestimating the popularity of VP is especially funny because apparently it's okay to use them for marketing but not follow through that marketing. like i know boc is new to the scene and kpts is their first series but come on now, even an idiot knows you just don't go using characters and ships to promote a series and then act surprised when people get invested in said characters. but then again, boc also promoted kpts as some sort of gritty mafia series, yet it's literally like any other bl romcom, with the exception that the setting is mafia world instead of university or whatever, so the marketing was definitely a miss, rather than hit.
we're 5 episodes from the end and i doubt boc would actually give us VP-centric episode(s), which makes me think that they're going to rush their arc and just give us a few snippets here and there of the actual storyline and leave majority of it off-screen. the only way this sort of storytelling would've been at least somewhat acceptable is if they started the arc earlier, but even then it would've taken careful plotting to make the arc and VP's feelings believable for the non-novel readers. but with only 5 episodes left, at least one of which is entirely dedicated to the final showdown between the main and minor families, there's just not enough time. and because i love to be pessimistic, i'm thinking the "finale" will start at ep13 so that they can leave some time for some lovey-dovey KP in ep 14 because god forbid we haven't seen them fucking enough already... which means the VP arc actually only takes 2 or 3 episodes which is just bullshit and something i'll never forgive boc.
sorry about this essay, i totally strayed from the original point but i'm just kinda pissed off about the way boc treats VP so yeah. short answer: they def didn't expect that VP would be so popular and they royally fucked up.
Thanks!!
Your thoughts are exactly in line with mine. I am convinced too that it is really going to be ep 11-12, bits of 10 and bits of 13. None of it is going to be VP heavy, because there is enough Porsche drama to be covered as well, and kimporschay drama...
Also, i think i blame Pond for this majorly...not BOC per se. he is the scriptwriter and director.
And totally, it is about plot development, not about screen time. This was a good plot with immense character growth..but all down the drain.
Lastly, as Bible said "Spaceship".. we are sure gonna go on supersonic speed.. and well crumbs crumbs everywhere, with not an morsel to eat
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maleficent-cannoli · 2 years ago
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Might I suggest ✨ little spoon Vegas ✨
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Can we talk about novel! vs show!Porchay?
Please take this with a grain of salt because we haven’t actually reached the parts of the plot I’m going to talk about so there is still room for it to happen in the show, however unlikely it’s looking so far.
NOVEL SPOILERS AHEAD (obviously)
So far, show!Chay has been a little ray of sunshine while also making it clear whose brother he is, which novel!Chay did a little differently. In the original novel, Porchay was a little spicier when it came to his language, which can be very clearly seen in two parts of the novel.
“Do you think this will scare me? You're just being insecure. Because whatever you do, my brother will always be ahead of you. He's even better than you because P’Kinn won't follow him around like that if he's not!”
So the first is when he’s kidnapped by Tawan and takes it as an opportunity to mock his brother-in-law’s ex and hit him where it really hurts. The novel even mentions him having fun annoying him. He also calls Tawan a preschooler.
"Kim, you fucking bastard! Just try getting on with someone else, I'll pray to the Gods to make your dick shrink and rot!"
The second time is during the gathering of mafia wives (Tae’s words, not mine), which he tags along on because he’s absolutely convinced Kim is cheating on him (as far as we know, he was not). And he yells that out the car window as they drive away.
So, in conclusion, I really would love to see Baby Chay show his fangs a little bit. He’s been very precious so far, and I appreciate that, I really do, especially in a mafia show where he is the one shining beacon of purity and Wattpad-like joy amidst the darkness of moral ambiguity, but at the same time, it could be interesting to see him just SNAP at some point. He is Porsche’s little brother after all, and I would love to see him make at least a snarky comment. 
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#3
Guys. I just realized something. What if we get to see Bible’s thigh tattoos in the VegasPete NC scene? What then?
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Rb if you’d fight the suppalo teachers behind a 7/11
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My #1 post of 2022
Timelining KP
The time has come. I’ve spent the last few days organizing my notes as much as possible, so here it is. And it is a monster of a post, I swear I didn’t realize how long this was going to end up being.
HUGE NOVEL SPOILERS AHEAD
So the short version is this:
Ep 10 - VP starts, Chay gets kidnapped, further discussion of the mole, videos, Tawan is dealt with (30 - 33)
Ep 11 - VP episode, “fuck where’s Pete”/dead body, Porsche’s birthday (34 - 36)
Ep 12 - funeral/Return of the Pete, post-VP (36 - 40)
Ep 13 - parental issues, conversation re: Vegas  (42 - 44)
Ep 14 - boss battle, party (44 - end)
And now things get more specific, which is what was taking me so long.
Episode 10 (next episode)
Transition between the end of the Tawan arc and the beginning of the VegasPete/Everything-Is-An-Absolute-Trainwreck arc
VegasPete starts (obviously)
KinnPorsche will probably break up, but get back together by the end of the episode, potentially with the pool scene (although I know I’m setting myself up to be clowned with this one)
KimChay reveal
Kidnapping plotline
Porsche tries to move out/Big pushes Chay dumpster fire extravaganza
Basically everything up to the end of chapter 33 of the main novel (Tawan arc over, KimChay are a mess)
Further discussion of the mole (Kim knows Porsche isn’t the mole, everyone else probably realizes he isn’t the mole, so who is?)
Again, potentially Chay getting kidnapped (kinda hoping that’s what they go with since it was a really nice transition in the novel, not just for Chay himself, but it was the push KinnPorsche needed to talk out some of their issues and get back together, particularly for Porsche to be willing to hear Kinn out after the shit he pulled)
Maybe the whole thing with the sex tapes toward the end, or episode 11, or not at all, who knows
Oh and this would be the VegasPete episode that will probably feel the most uncomfortable because it’s really the beginnings of their relationship and even toned down it’ll be quite the experience
Not just for us but for Pete as well
We will probably see Vegas become more attracted to Pete beyond just being intrigued and amused
Episode 11
I’m thinking primarily VegasPete, like (hopefully) almost entirely VegasPete
Probably cut in with some main family drama 
Chay moving in with the main family?
KimChay kinda going to shit
Obviously some Tankhun commentary would be amazing
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iamfujoshiwe · 6 months ago
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*KPTS ep 14* Vegas, crying : I have nothing left… Pete : Pete : *coughs* Bitch, what am I? A roach?!
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hiskinndbodyguard · 2 years ago
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since I haven’t annoyed you recently, rank all the kpts eps by how likely you would cry
1-14: 0
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chalkrevelations · 2 years ago
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Oh. My god.
So a ton of Thai BLs have 12 eps, with the dreaded Ep 11 curse, with the relationship breakup, and everything goes to shit, and oh noes, how will our heroes ever be together, right? This is a standard beat.
I just realized, with 14 eps total, this makes Ep 13 the functional "cursed" episode for KPTS.
Pete KO'ing Vegas to get the key to unlock his handcuffs so he can flee the safehouse and they can both end up sobbing into their dinners - that's this show's Ep 11 Breakup. Oh noes, how will our (anti)heroes ever be together?
I only just realized this. :facepalm:
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