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hinashyvers · 6 months ago
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Joris & Khan in Welsh & Shedar
Appena ù stata annunciata la ripresa del progetto, quasi non ci credevo ✹
Non vedo l'ora di vedere le loro interazioni 💙🧡
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geekgirles · 2 months ago
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The interesting thing about Gobbowl culture in Ankama media (and probably the aspect that most resembles irl football) is the fact that the interest it draws comes less from the sport itself and more from there being players the fans can idolise and obsess over.
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Khan Karkass summed it up best: people don't come to matches to watch them play, they come to watch him.
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Gobbowl fans care more about their favourite player than the sport itself. In fact, for the most part they care more about their favourite player putting on a show for them than them playing well.
And this is something that's been present in all iterations of the franchise, in the different eras (except for Waven, but the game's not quite there as far as I'm concerned).
Back in Wakfu season 1, there was Kriss Krass, who was massively popular, even when I seem to remember he didn't even play in the first division back then.
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Moreover, his main flaw was being a complete showboat, but it was precisely because he knew his fans cared more about him putting on a good show than about the actual outcome of the game. I mean, the man held back from utterly cursbtomping the opposite team just so he could keep the game going for as long as possible and his fans wouldn't get bored!
Then season 2 introduced Maude as the Masked Gobbowler. In BrĂąkmar. Where women aren't even allowed to watch Gobbowl.
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And, sure, one of the main reasons she hid her identity was precisely because if she was found out, the lightest sentence would be her being banned from ever playing again, with the highest sentence being... Well...
You know...
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But that doesn't change the fact that BrĂąkmar holds their best player in such a high pedestal the Masked Gobbowler had a say in legal procedures and how to deal with the accused party of a trial. With no one, not even the Prince of BrĂąkmar, daring to refute.
And in the end, after Maude proved just how amazing her technique is by saving the city alongside Kriss from the Mmmmmporg's rampage, BrĂąkmar started treating having a girl as their best player as a badge of honour (if only because they thought it proved their superiority over Bonta).
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And then we have the Dofus Era with Khan Karkass.
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Khan, who was introduced looking for new team members with the sole purpose of making himself look better, because that's what the fans wanted. They wanted Khan. Everybody else was little more than a living prop meant to make him shine.
His fame was so great that you could say it overshadowed even Jashash's. Because even though the match was supposed to commemorate him and his sacrifice, what everyone really came to see was Khan play. Even the announcer gave so much more importance to Khan's presence over Jahash's feats.
And, again, the fans seemed to care much more about Khan as an icon than they did his actual skills. Now, don't get me wrong, Khan genuinely was a talented player, more importantly, one that recognised true talent. And Marilyn possessing his body and playing bad on purpose was a great factor in the fans' disillusionment over him during the climax.
However, it should be pointed out that what horrified them first was Marilyn shaving Khan's hair. Because that simple action shattered their ideal image of him. If they truly cared more about the sport, they wouldn't have even batted an eyelash.
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(Again, this is a reflection of real life, where the moment a famous player makes a drastic change to their appearance, social media is already flowing with comments about it).
But no. They were horrified because they idolised Khan as a source of entertainment much more than they liked the actual sport, and his hair was his trademark. Getting rid of it was getting rid of what made Khan an object of envy and desire. And Marilyn, as fellow Khan Karkass Stan and scorned admirer, knew that. He knew it better than anyone. That's why he did it.
And I don't know wny I chose to fixate on this today and overanalyse a relatively small aspect of the franchise. I just guess this is all a neat piece of world building.
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kerubimcrepin · 4 months ago
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Everything we know about what happened to Khan, Bakara, and Lilotte after the movie
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Despite the fact that the second Dofus movie has not been made (and, from the way things are looking, might never be made at all) we know quite a bit about what happened to its characters afterward — the reason for that is simple: they're referenced in the games!
In this post, I will try to compile everything we know for the ease of access — but I implore you, instead of using my abridged compilation, just watch my video archive instead, if you're really interested in these characters! The posts I make on the MMOs are entirely recapping everything I already went over in my videos.
BAKARA JURGEN
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The Dofus MMO takes place approximately 200–300 years after the events of the movie, and 70–90 years after a genocide against Huppermages has been enacted by Bonta, which forced their people to go into hiding. (you can read more about this in my posts about the Dofus MMO!)
Despite such a long time having passed, one can still find people who look up to her in the world — including Kerubim Crepin, who reminisces on having known her, her brother, and her sister-in-law, before all of them were gone...
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There isn't a lot of that is known about her life (or her involvement with Khan, and whether they ever became a couple...) but what we do know is that she grew to be a very well-respected leader and role model among huppermages, and lived a long, fruitful life.
And also that, just like literally everyone in the cast of the movie, she either lied her ass off about everything that happened in it, or the legends have distorted the truth badly.
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By the time of Dofus MMO, Jahash and Julith are both viewed as icons and role models by the Huppermage community. It is quite likely that, at least in part, this is the case due to Bakara's (and then Agata, her heir/apprentice/daughter-figure's) efforts to not let their memory be forgotten.
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Agata never discusses Bakara in her dialogues pertaining to Bonta's genocide of Huppermages, and when coupled with Kerubim saying that Bakara is "just a part of the history now" during his own dialogue on the topic, there is a heavy implication that Bakara did not live long enough to see this tragedy — and that her passing is not a fresh wound.
LILOTTE DELAGRANDVENTURE
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There is even less known about her fate, but some things are pretty obvious: she had a family of her own — and she is still venerated as a great ancestor even six centuries later, by her great-great-great grandchildren.
You can find a descendant of hers in the Wakfu MMO, as a political leader in a tradition-obiding ouginak tribe, which is a very long cry from the way Lilotte and Indie led their lives as city-dwelling ouginaks.
For context, there is a bit of a... conflict, between these two lifestyles, which makes this development quite interesting:
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I feel like this dialogue just speaks for itself, when it comes to the way people like Indie, Lou, and Lilotte are viewed by Ouginaks at large...
Considering the history of oppression that Ouginaks have, it is quite understandable why a lot of them want to live in an independent community of their own people — instead of molding themselves to fit the norms set by the followers of the Twelve gods; and why they may look down on their fellow Ouginaks who do not share this sentiment.
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Lilotte's bell is a known relic, and her legend is still known — albeit with major alterations, which are most likely the result of six centuries having passed.
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:)
KHAN KARKASS
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I have saved all content regarding him for last, because he is the one we know the most about — from the plans to include him in Welsh & Shedar, to his inclusion in the Wakfu MMO.
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He is buried next to the stadium, with his Gobbowl cup — the greatest achievement of his life... despite him having years of life after it, as an adventurer. A bit sad, isn't it?
Here's what he says about his life:
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And here's him getting Joris's age wrong, lmao:
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I debated including what we know about him in Welsh & Shedar in this post... but it's a bit of a beaten horse, by now, so I will just give the simple rundown:
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In Welsh & Shedar, Khan and Joris seem to be pretty close, reportedly having adventured together after Khan's knee injury. Khan can be seen spending time together with Joris even in the trailer.
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It is easy to assume that by this point, that with Joris being 60-years-old, most other mortal loved ones of Joris's have either passed away, or had their own lives to deal with, not having much time to spend together, which is pretty sad.
Considering the fact that instead of spending his time with Bakara, he is seen alone as an old man, it might be possible that she passed away before him or that their romance did not work out.
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Another reason to believe their romance may not have worked out is the fact that neither Bakara's, nor Khan's fans, mention them being an item.
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He also had the stories about him morph... but somehow, I really doubt that it wasn't his own damn fault.
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julith-jurgen · 6 months ago
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has this behind the scene stuff been shared anywhere ? I don't remember seeing it here
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bluwails · 1 month ago
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Iop crush!
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koffee-withk · 7 months ago
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*read in goblin voice* HAHAHA THAT'S RIGHT, IT IS I! The freaky guy who likes characters from almost forgotten or little-known movies or cartoons
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ursarminoris · 6 months ago
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An ordinary day with Joris and Khan in a bar.
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Appearances are deceptive !
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larebiscornue · 11 months ago
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Stayed up til 3 AM to draw this
No regrets I think
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jorisjurgen · 1 year ago
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the rule of fandoms is that if someone has a character in their url or bio they either understand that character well enough to give a 3 hour unscripted lecture on the subject OR they're really obsessed with their version of that character thats an entirely different made up guy. and theres literally never an in between
#in 2008 there was a cancelled ds game about joris. the dofus movie was in production hell since 2008 together with it.#joris canonically prefers well made steaks and cute aprons according to the manfra.#despite living in bonta during the movie and the ovas according to the mmo he has lived in other places in the centuries between those.#joris had a deeply personal falling out with ebony dofus which is funny.#he is implied to have a very weird and silly antagonistic relationship with ush. also remington robbed the crepin-jurgen residence.#both of which make ova funnier.#Joris was in wakfu as a tie-in character for the upcoming game and movie but both got in development hell.#But his actial start was as a concept art for a joke character who is cursed to sound like a woman and carries a huge log#that gives him magic power#Joris condones in-app purchases and microtransactions (pre-alubera dofus touch update)#Joris owns Khan's fishing rod (and Khan's only redeeming quality as a character was being Joris's support system after the movie)#joris has lived through the huppermage genocide that followed leorictus sheran sharm's cringe reign.#but very probably did not go to rok island with other huppermages to hide out. both because of family and because i think he's too stubborn#He is also now probably Bonta's most mentally ill regent. but probably not *the* most morally gray.#despite becoming a nationalist or having a spy network or the warcrimes. that's just normal ''ruling a country'' thing.#and joris's birthday is on 32rd of december. which is the krosmoz equivalent of being born during a leap year. AND it's new years eve.#sucks to suck!#also in the years after the huppermage genocide - dofus mmo times - atcham kerubim and joris have a divorce arc#because atcham is off doing crimes kerubim is being friends with the player character and joris is Working#so needless to say this was stressful as shit to all of them.#its quite interesting to think about the fact that joris grew up with a man who himself was an orphan#in an environment of neglect and depression. and that he idolizes and adores his flawed adoptive father#(who may see some of himself and some of his brother in him.)#anyway sdhfjfsihdhfhdjs i hope im the first one. but sometimes i worry im the second one đŸ„șđŸ„șđŸ„ș#... yeah this is going into The Tag#crepinposting
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laurencher · 4 days ago
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Unexpectedly, I decided to roll out a huge text on a topic that still hasn't let me go
The Dofus movie as a whole is a work of art, but I'd like to tell you how much I admire one particular scene. Then there is a mention of loss and the process of experiencing it, so if this topic is extremely painful for you, I strongly recommend not to read further
It is about the moment of Kerubim's death. How well and correctly the reaction of little Joris is described here simply amazes me. At first we are shown a small child who is not even initially able to accept the fact that his father is lethally wounded and nothing good will come out of it, because at such a moment sometimes a person just can't imagine such an option as "my parent will die", because it is impossible and "a parent lives forever, he/she can't die". Then we hear a scream, which still lives rent free in my head, so well done in terms of dubbing (in general, the voice that the voice actress gave to Joris is just beautiful)
And then comes the main part: we see how quickly Joris picks himself up and continues on his way. Yes, this outcome is directly related to the timing and the need to continue the story, but I see it differently. It reflects very well how in real life many people (especially adults) really behave when faced with the death of a loved one. You may not be able to "go through the loss" in the beginning, because you don't have time for it, you have a huge pile of duties and responsibilities that force you to push your emotions inside, because there are more important things to do. In the case of the cartoon, that "responsibility" for Joris is saving Lilott. This 10-year-old realizes that there is no time or opportunity to grieve, his friend is in danger and he has no time to mourn his father's death.
The moment with extremely inappropriate comments of Khan is just a joke, but again I see here quite an important message: many people trying to help a person who has lost a loved one do not take into account that at this moment "Joris" does not need any moralizing and especially words like: "Well, nothing can be done, this is fate, you just have to move on" There is nothing simple in this and cannot be. Joris's aggression at this point is something extremely natural and expected. He doesn't need to listen to some supposedly good thing about the situation, because there is nothing good there. On the contrary, Bakara does the right thing, she lets Joris know that he is not alone and that she is ready to support him and help him in any way she can. At the moment of grief, a lot of people need this protection and care, need to understand that they are not alone.
And in the end I want to say that during the second viewing of the movie I saw in Jojo myself: a little lost child who is trying his best to get back on his feet and live on, even without them, without the only person who was everything to you, your parent. You don't have time to grieve, and many people around you can't understand that you don't want to talk about it, you don't want to listen to extremely "helpful guidance" that you didn't ask for, you just want to forget. But don't forget that everyone's experience is different and that this is not the only way of dealing with loss, I'm just sharing my thoughts as someone who has experienced it.
I want to say that if for you some form of escapism and reflection becomes a conventional cartoon about a blue magic gnome, it is not only normal, it is wonderful, because you are on your way to becoming stronger and breaking out of the shackles of your problems.
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cocogum · 9 months ago
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A current list of every confirmed LGBTQ+ characters in the Krosmoz.
The characters are placed chronologically by their era NOT by their names ‌
Genesis Era
Sadida (Asexual) : has applied photosynthesis to produce ten Sadida dolls, his children.
Feca (Bisexual) : became a man so she could procreate with a woman and make OtomaĂŻ.
Sacrier (Bisexual) : became a man so she could procreate with a woman and make Lupa.
Great Dragon (Agender) : confirmed by Tot on a tweet he made.
Enutrof (Agender) : he takes the form of a dragon, so he also applies to Tot’s tweet.
Aerafal (Agender) : confirmed by Tot on a tweet he made.
Aguabrial (Agender) : confirmed by Tot on a tweet he made.
Dardondakal (Agender) : confirmed by Tot on a tweet he made.
Grougalorasalar (Agender) : confirmed by Tot on a tweet he made.
Terrakourial (Agender) : confirmed by Tot on a tweet he made.
Ignemikhal (Agender) : confirmed by Tot on a tweet he made.
Shinonome (Agender) : confirmed by Tot on a tweet he made.
Balthazar (Agender) : confirmed by Tot on a tweet he made.
Grougaloragran (Agender) : confirmed by Tot on a tweet he made.
AdamaĂŻ (Agender) : confirmed by Tot on a tweet he made.
Efrim (Agender) : confirmed by Tot on a tweet he made.
Phaerys (Agender) : confirmed by Tot on a tweet he made.
Dofus Era
Tylezia (lesbian): the Red Death, mother of Dreggons, daughter of Terrakourial, fell in love with Oyukipoca, the goddess of Bow Meaguars.
Oyukipoca (lesbian): Night-That-Roars, the goddess of Bow Meaguars, had the Vulbis Dofus with Tylezia, which hatched into their son Tyzerion.
Jahash (Bisexual) : confirmed by Tot on a tweet he made.
Julith (Bisexual) : confirmed by Tot on a tweet he made.
Simone (Lesbian) : you can see her dating a female ecaflip by the name of Julie in “The Treasures of Kerubim” Dofus series.
Julie (Lesbian) : she fell in love at first sight with Simone and has been seen dating her in “The Treasures of Kerubim” Dofus series.
Alibert (Gay) : his sexuality has been confirmed in the webtoon Les Tranches de Vie de Wakfu where he had been kissed by a man on the cheek and liked it.
Gustavio (Gay) : he appeared in the webtoon Les Tranches de Vie de Wakfu where he wrapped his arms around Alibert’s neck and kissed his cheek.
Otomaï’s unnamed mother (Bisexual) : she has slept with the goddess feca and had a feeling that the “man” was Feca herself because as soon as she finished praying, the “man” appeared.
Larentia (Bisexual) : she has slept with the goddess sacrier who was disguised as a man and knew about it because she sees “him” bleeding and loving it right after transforming into a beast to leave.
Atone (Non-binary) : just as they died, Oropo told them to rest in peace: “you were a sister, a brother, it didn’t matter.”
Marline (Gay) : had a VERY huge obsession with Khan Karkass, a popular Boufbowler player. has been confirmed by Tot on a tweet that he was a character who specifically confronted Khan’s toxic masculinity.
Wakfu Era
Queen of Bonta Astra (Lesbian) : was seen sitting next to another queen of Bonta.
Astra’s unnamed wife (Lesbian) : was seen sitting next to Astra who was already the queen of Bonta.
Canar (Gay) : his character was based on Albin and Renato from La Cage aux Folles.
Renar (Gay) : his character was based on Albin and Renato from La Cage aux Folles.
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filmes-online-facil · 2 years ago
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Dofus, Livre 1: Julith - Filmes Online FĂĄcil
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No ano de 4001, em Bonta, majestosa cidade de paz, o jovem Joris Jurgen vive tranquilamente com seu pai adotivo, Querubin Crespin, um velho Ecaflip. Mas quando ele tenta se aproximar o seu maior ídolo, Khan Karkass, um grande jogador Gobbowl ocorre um evento mal: o ignóbil Julith, uma mulher com grandes poderes mágicos, está de volta e quer vingança por roubar o Dofus Ébano.
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wonderfull-star · 6 months ago
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In general, Goultard’s and Joris’s bond makes sense. Both are essentially immortal. Therefore, they may well get along and even become friends. Just like Joris with Khan many years ago. Kerub and Atcham, although they are ecaflips with 9 lives that can be reborn, are still not immortal (I could be wrong). Someday there will come a time when Kerub and Atcham will not reborn again

I constantly think about concept art “what Joris would look like as an adult if he was not hosting Dardondakal”. I still can’t believe that there is real concept art with his “true appearance”.
It turns out that Joris’s facial features are like his mother’s and his hair and eye color are like his father’s.
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Please, someone draw him like this but as an adult đŸ„ș
Also this means that we now officially have another couple in the style of “reckless Iop and the tired of life blond character.”(if you know what I mean; yea Goultard and Joris)
It’s actually interesting that in the animated series(both wakfu and dofus) Iop characters usually fall in love with blondes.
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kerubimcrepin · 9 months ago
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Dofus: The Production - what is left of the old movie
Originally, the movie was supposed to tie in with the game and the Welsh & Shedar series, and be a trilogy.
As we had already explored on this blog, this did not happen for a variety of reasons.
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Welsh and Shedar got cannibalized by other projects due to its cancellation, and the script of the movie "Dofus Book 1: Joris Jurgen" had to be completely rewritten from its old plot;
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In that movie, Joris was likely supposed to be a street urchin, who survived together with Lilotte, who was a rogue, and the trailer we have for the older version of the movie reflects that:
As we can also see from the trailer, and the poster featured earlier, proto-Kerubim is also a part of the movie, and Khan was not yet meant to be a boufbowler.
(And considering the posters, the cat that inspired Kerubim's design was also a part of the movie. I wonder if it's related to Welsh's cat from Welsh and Shedar? But maybe I'm just crazy.)
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Subsequently, the movie came out at a much later date than planned originally.
(two images included because, bizarrely, there are two versions - one with Joris's tail censored, and the other with his tail uncensored. This proves that already at this point they had a draconic backstory in mind for him, though we do know that at the time of Wakfu season 1 (and, likely, the cancelled DS game, as was noted in my post about it) it was not the case.)
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Also, interestingly, it is the only art of this time to include the tail. A possible error on Xa's part, or something that was considered very briefly?
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In the end, Kerubim (as well as Simone) swallowed up not just the design of Welsh's cat, clothes, and Ecaflip friend;
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He also got the role Julith was supposed to have, both metaphorically, and also literally.
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Or not entirely — considering the fact that Joris was supposed to spend time with him anyway, since we have art of Joris on his mount from that old draft.
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It's quite interesting, to think of all that could have been different in the 2009-2012 version of the movie!
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But even during the making of the second draft of the movie, a lot of things have changed. From the first idea of Joris winning Kerubim back at a pachinko machine, to the concept art of Joris's non-possessed appearance.
The movie was being actively rewritten at the time of the making of Aux Tresors, so some of the early drafts were already tied in with its canon — taking place in Astrub, to be specific — but not with its ending, because the show was still ongoing.
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At one point there was supposed to be a whole cast of Huppermage characters, and judging from the fact one of them is mentioned in the following text, they did play some sort of role in the plot:
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It is likely that from this early draft it was decided that Joris would be a boufbowl fan, which was then worked in as a plot point in Aux Tresors.
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(Stélina may be a proto-version of Bakara.)
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It also seems that at this stage, it would be likely that Lilotte was reworked to be the Princess of Bonta, before eventually becoming the Ouginak we know and love.
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After this Ankama once again returned to the concept of Lilotte as an orphan, though — even when the movie was still set in Astrub!
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And it seems that the draft involved travel between Astrub and Bonta, judging from the usage of a Zaap to attack Luis.
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And even at this point they have come up with the tragically cut "Joris and Khan go to adult industry workers and Joris (10yo boy) engages in depressed underaged drinking" scene.
(I'll never forgive Ankama for cutting this. I still argue that it's in character for Khan, our detested/beloved turbovirgin, to do this — as long as he doesn't get together with any of the women due to thinking himself "too good" for them.)
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Also, at some point the gods were supposed to play a role. And personally, I am glad it was cut — it feels a bit too grand for the first movie in what was supposed to be a series.
I don't have any grand statement, or conclusion, but it is interesting to see all the ways the movie has changed.
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julith-jurgen · 6 months ago
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More behind the scene stuff! All of these are from 3 little 3-4 minutes documentaries on the movie that are in the bonus section of the dvd. It's not everything because the other stuff have already been shared online (and also in better quality).
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dengekiboys · 3 years ago
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Dofus Book 1: Julith (part 2 of 3)
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