#kh Odin

[katkeyboardmastah]

And here it is! My Kingdom Hearts Dark Road character infographs! All relevant information on this game's cast summarized across 17 slides.

As I had mentioned it previously, these are part of a larger KHDR summary project that I have been working on! A preview of which can be viewed HERE

Twittah dot com version of this post can be found HERE

Huge shoutout to @monoshiki for being a pal and proofreading these 👍

[infinitelilith]

It's always a little weird to me when people are confused by Tumblr KH fans loving Dark Road so much because like... it's essentially an extremely angsty Xehaqus high school AU. Tumblr users had been dreaming about that since like 2015. Nomura made DR for the they/thems

[warriors-hearts]

Lower class and the upperclass of Odin from KH Dark Road are done!

I've been really struggling with the names, some dont have any bc I couldnt find one and some I'm not proud of.

If you have suggestions pls feel free to suggest some in my ask box! :D

[lightandfellowship]

So it seems in KHDR's files there are two different versions of the "How to Play" button, but as far as I can tell only the second one is actually used in-game.

What I'm guessing happened is that someone realized that the sprite was mirrored incorrectly and the wrong eye was covered (canonically, Odin is covering his left eye) and had to fix it, leaving the old version of the button in the files.

In fact, looking at old footage of the online version of KHDR from four years ago, I saw the incorrect icon being used then, so this is something they must have fixed post-release. Which patch/version that would be, I'm not sure.

I imagine Odin's damaged left eye will be important in KHML somehow since the KHDR devs were going through the trouble of keeping it consistent even in the UI. (There's a sprite of him in the files without his hat that shows his left eye is...blind?, for clarification.)

[clankythecranky]

Just speeding through khdr cutscenes to find the darkness lore when I noticed something in chapter 7.

Vidar did make it back, and he very clearly told Master Odin everything about what happened. Then he gets told about Kingdom Hearts, which he wouldn’t know to fuck up literally everything to try and save Baldr. In that cutscene we also get the vibes of Baldr breached containment but now I’m not so sure. I think that Odin contained Baldr after finding out he was present and then sent the underclassmen out and contained Baldr on the same day make roughly every chapter a day.

So Odin lied to the underclassmen sending them to find the V gang while having Baldr locked up assumedly studying him like he told Vidar to do. He planted the idea of Kingdom Hearts in Vidar’s head and the underclassmen but for them it was more of an explanation as to what Vidar was doing.

I need to know who Odin really is, because everything he has done caused something to go wrong especially since I now think he knew what happened with the upperclassmen and Baldr and still sent out the underclassmen anyway without telling them anything, and this would mean that he already knew Hoder was dead when he gave the excuse of wasn’t going with them.

That’s just what I noticed and theorize.

[visionj-journal]

Here comes Master Odin! unexpected surprise sketch, but I figured I might as well complete the set (seeing as I’ve drawn Eraqus and Xehanort’s classmates before)

Yeah, that first one is too long, a noodle man, but I don’t like him enough to feel bad about it :p

I did like drawing his hat tho - that’s my favorite part about him - his wizard hat.

Not sure where I’ll go from here, more KHDR? KH? Genshin? we’ll see. May be next I’ll post some of my KHOC sketches, who knows.

For more in-depth look into the process of these sketches HOPEFULLY I’ll be posting a video on my YT channel on Sunday the 1st, but it might be late, it’s the holidays after all.

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[fangirlynjunk]

Man the tragic irony I should have seen coming but didn't with Baldur is so good.

Baldur is the golden child, brought down low by Loki and a mistletoe spear. his one weakness, in the hands of Hoder, blind to the one item that could hurt Baldur being in his hands.

Baldur is a child of destiny, brought down by his own darkness, his one weakness, and Hoder being too blind to her brothers struggles wasn't able to help him as the one person who might have been able to.

Granted Odin didn't see any of this shit coming either time so I guess the All Father and the Headmaster are blind as hell out of their one good eye

[roxasboxas]

Hey how old do y’all think Odin is gonna be in ML anyways. Do you think we’ll see him?

[cringefail-kh-battle]

[sirquestingbeast]

Kingdom Hearts Character's (Homestuck) Classpect Pt.1: I'm Not a Liar.

Howsitgoinguys I'm back with that thing I promised. I never forgot about it, it was just that some characters were so hard to classpect that for the sake of my sanity I had to step back from the project. But I'm back on my manic bullshit so not only did I get it done, but I have classpected every single character originally from Kingdom Hearts. Before I announce the first batch, I just want to be clear about my Classpecting system.

💋 I treat Classpecting as self contained like a horoscope or MBTI type thingy. But not as a personality thing; more like incorporating the story as a whole into the healthiest state of being for the character.

💋Because of above, I don't believe any Classpect is doomed to fail; it depends on the actions and events of the story and clashing with other classpects that lead down that path. Death can very well be part of the journey for a character but it shouldn't be the end; Foretellers yes, Dark Road no.

💋 My point of reference is literally what I remember from Homestuck itself, some notes from the Classpecting for Assholes by Neurotypeline video and the wiki HOWEVER I have also seen Optimistic Dualist's and Ouroborista's videos on the subject so if their influence it's felt... I just can't help it man, I don't have original thoughts.

💋 I believe in aspect duality; Breath-Blood, Time-Space, Hope-Rage, Doom-Life, Void-Light, Heart-Mind

💋 Breath/Blood is forward progression, Time/Space is foundation, Hope/Rage is symbolism and themes, Doom/Life is narrative, Void/Life is lore, Heart-Mind is character development. HOWEVER these categories aren't isolated. Characters can dip into adjacent concepts to help progress the main; the closest two inconsequentially and the ones further out with the possibility of an issue occuring.

💋 Characters are also linked to their mirror; sometimes in symbolism or their inclination to lean into it. Depending on the class and the context it can either be a nifty tool or super detrimental. In general even the most flexible classpect will go down a bad path if they lean more heavily into their mirror than their true Classpect.

💋 This is not a statement on powers or personality. Being the same Classpect as a cannon character doesn't mean shit I'm just dumb like that. The way I see it, your aspect is a collection of keywords, your class is the origin of your power/journey to getting it, and what the results of that are purely up to your imagination.

💋 Similar classpects will probably feel some type of way about them. Certain classes function the same way in a typically replicable way so they might relate on their journey. Certain aspects usually have keywords that correlate to ideological beliefs. They might also hate each other and be polar opposites because they interpret those keywords differently or they don't embrace/understand the journey of their class.

With that out of the way, there are a collection of types where there isn't enough content for me to do anything but vibe type them or...I dunno. I just don't have a lot to say about them. If your fave is on here, I'm sorry bestie. If you press me for your fave individually I will be happy to explain the reasoning but off the top of my head, I have nothing to say about these motherfuckers.

Hermod: Seer of Space

Vor: Mage of Blood

Urd: Thief of Void

Hoder: Heir of Life

Vidar: Witch of Mind

Vala: Sylph of Breath

Heimdall: Page of Blood

Helgi:Knight of Rage

Sigurn: Sylph of Heart

Odin:Mage of Time

Skuld: Maid of Breath

Ira: Prince of Light

Invi: Bard of Void

Aced: Knight of Life

Gula: Thief of Hope

Ava: Witch of Rage

Pence: Heir of Light

Olette: Maid of Blood

Larxene/Elrena: Prospit, Maid of Rage

Demyx: Prospit, Rogue of Void

Luxord: Prospit, Maid of Light

Vexen:/Even Derse, Seer of Light

Xaldin/Dillan: Derse, Prince of Heart

Lexaeus/Aeleus: Prospit, Knight of Life

Zexion/Ienzo: Prospit, Page of Space

DiZ: Mage of light

Caio for nao homies~

[miss-tc-nova]

Trouble Magnet

Eraqus: Hey, what's a behemoth?

Odin: A large, very dangerous heartless. Please don't tell me you found one of those

Eraqus: No, I have a soldier heartless

Odin: .....

Eraqus: No, wait. I have a behemoth too

Odin: ಠ_ಠ  

[kh-described]

okay wait i. i made that “who is the master of masters” poll and i put “one of the old guys” as a joke mostly but i’m seriously thinking about odin now and i just need to get some thoughts out.

okay so this is his design right. and this is the classroom.

[ID: the first image shows Odin from kingdom hearts dark road- he’s an older man with tan skin, white hair, and a bushy white beard. he’s wearing a tan tunic and a dark gray robe, with a black and yellow belt. he’s also wearing a large dark gray wizard hat, with a wide brim that flops over his face, covering one eye. the second is a screenshot of the classroom in Scala ad Caelum, showing the wall above Odin’s desk, which features a large golden crest, with the no name keyblade displayed prominently in the center of it.]

so. okay. at the end of dark road, Odin wields the no name keyblade. a keyblade which, notably, has the eye of the master of masters in it. because of this, many fanartists have (rightfully) taken to depicting M.o.M. with a single eye, the space where his other eye would be covered in the shadow of his cloak.

Odin wields the no name keyblade. Odin also has one eye covered by his hat. 

it just. it feels like too much of a coincidence!!! Nomura what does it mean I just want to talk-

[infinitelilith]

Odin gave them the assignment to write an entire essay on the history of the Founders

[yeshallbeasgods]

#the fact both of them become people who are willing to do 'whatever it takes' to either maintain order or fulfill their goals #because the tragedy of their youth was due in part to another's mercy gone horribly wrong #the fact their view of baldr's death is that its a mercy.... that he couldn't have been saved... #and how this ties into the ways they view darkness... #can't stop thinking about Vidar's line. 'go peacefully. may your heart be your guiding key' #no idea if this thought makes sense I've just spinning this around in my head for like 24 hours #so often I see tragedies being framed as a cause from LACK of mercy or kindness #in this case... there was mercy. there was kindness. they TRIED #and all it did was make things worse #all that said tho don't think im for odin locking baldr away lol that absolutely backfired on all them #isolation is not the answer!! holy shit!!!

been thinking on this and like. mercy being the fatal flaw in dark road instead of saving anyone… Vidar’s kindness in sparing baldr, in keeping the truth from the underclassmen… odin locking baldr away instead of acting on his own words… even xehanort and eraqus, in their own way, seeing killing baldr as a “mercy”….. god.

[lightandfellowship]

A detail in the Vidar and Odin cutscene that might tell us exactly when it takes place

I really should've thought about this sooner.

Before I get into the meat of this observation and what it means for the timeline, I need to explain something: the three ways KHDR handles flashbacks and flashforwards.

Flashbacks and flashforwards come in three visual styles:

(1. Timestamp at the beginning of the cutscene in a bold, black font. This indicates a flashback/flashforward that only the audience can see. And it goes without saying that this type of flashback/flashforward is used when the writers don't want any ambiguity about when the scene takes place. Example:

(2. Blurry black letterbox/vignette at the top and bottom of the screen. This indicates a memory that a character is actively recalling; both the audience and the character are "seeing" it. Here's an example from Eraqus' memory:

(3. Character's narration in the middle of the screen while the cutscene behind the text has a low-opacity black overlay on top of it. This can sometimes indicate present reality in some circumstances (such as a disembodied voice speaking or someone narrating their inner thoughts as they occur) but most of the time it indicates that the background cutscene is just a visual to go along with the character's statements, and isn't necessarily something that is actively being remembered or seen by any character in the story. An example of Xehanort retroactively narrating over a scene from the past:

In some cases the game may use a combination of any of these three to create unique effects, but that's not important for this post, the point is: if a cutscene is showing an event from the past or future, there will be a clear visual indication of that.

Why is this relevant? Do you wanna guess which one of these the Vidar and Odin cutscene initially uses?

None of them. (Further explanation under the read more).

Which under normal circumstances would indicate that the scene is taking place in the present and isn't a flashback at all (the second half of this cutscene has the flashback letterboxing, but there's a reason for that I'll explain in a bit).

For context, up until this point I was always of the belief that this scene was a flashback that took place sometime after the events of Enchanted Dominion but before the present events of KHDR, and that the lack of a timestamp was simply to avoid spoilers or to create mystery. However, after realizing how consistent the game is about visually marking flashbacks/flashforwards, I can no longer believe with any certainty that this is just "the one exception" in the entire game.

And at first glance, I'd be tempted to say that this scene taking place in the present actually makes sense. Right before this cutscene, Hermod goes looking for Odin in order to inform him about Vor's departure, but fails to locate him. If Odin is truly in the tower talking to Vidar at this very moment, then it explains why Hermod couldn't find him in his usual places, because we know from Vidar that Odin's meditation spot in the tower isn't common knowledge amongst the underclassmen (presumably).

In addition, this would finally explain (1. why Odin greets Vidar with "You've returned." and (2. why Vidar tries to say goodbye. In Episode 1, Odin claims that the upperclassmen are missing, and we just saw Vidar in Dwarf Woodlands the episode before this, so surely this moment must be Vidar returning to Scala after finding out that he's been declared missing and informing Odin that he's leaving indefinitely to pursue his goals (whatever they are).

However, I feel things start to get a little messy when you think about it harder.

I've explained in the past in this reblog chain how it seems extremely likely that the Vidar + Odin discussion in Episode 5, and the Vidar + Odin discussion in Episode 7, are not two separate instances of them talking, but rather two halves of the same discussion, and I think this still applies.

(Aside: I realize now looking back at this post that OP was super onto something here and totally right and I can't believe I didn't latch onto it sooner).

(Aside 2.0: the reason why the second half of the cutscene has flashback letterboxing while the first doesn't is because in Episode 7, Odin is actively remembering the second half of this discussion, a discussion that I'm arguing potentially took place in Episode 5. In other words, Odin is remembering Episode 5 while in Episode 7.)

If these two cutcenes are in fact the same discussion just split in half, then that means that this cutscene is the moment when Vidar first learns about True Darkness, what needs to be done about Baldr, and Kingdom Hearts.

But...wouldn't it be really weird if Vidar only learned about Kingdom Hearts in Episode 5? He, Vala, and Vali were already traveling the outside worlds and considered missing during Episodes 1-4, and at the end of Episode 4 Vidar makes a point to recruit Vor to help him and the other upperclassmen with some unspecified goal of theirs, so clearly he had SOME plan already in mind—one that he knew would require the underclassmen's assistance, at that. (Xehanort also claims that the only reason why they were running into the upperclassmen at all was because the upperclassmen were keeping tabs on the underclassmen, further suggesting that the upperclassmen already had plans for them in mind.)

At the end of Episode 4 Vidar also says that he wouldn't return to Scala until he accomplished said goal, and wouldn't talking to Odin in the tower constitute "returning to Scala"? Maybe I'm being nitpicky here and Vidar simply visiting briefly to say goodbye isn't the same thing as returning, but still. Vor is also absent from this cutscene despite being newly recruited by Vidar the episode prior, but I think you could make the argument that she was waiting somewhere else for Vidar to finish his business with Odin.

You would also have to reconcile the fact that Vala and Vali had already stolen the rose from Beast's Castle sometime before or during Episode 5. So, in a very short amount of time, Vidar would have had to discover the existence of the items of world order (which, remember, as far as we know Odin never told him about that part), discover their usefulness in finding true light and summoning Kingdom Hearts, relay this information to Vala and Vali, and then have them correctly locate and steal the rose in record time. Even if you assume that the upperclassmen were taught about the items of world order beforehand while the underclassmen weren't (due to age/schooling), this still seems very fast to me.

Remember, if the Vidar + Odin discussion does indeed happen concurrently/approximately alongside Hermod failing to find Odin, then that means that the underclassmen visit Beast's Castle and find out that the rose was stolen shortly after Odin and Vidar have their discussion at the tower. In Scala time, the upperclassmen's plans pivoting and them succesfully locating and stealing an item of world order would happen within the span of...what, hours at most? Not to mention the Beast's servants claim that the rose was stolen "a short while ago", which, while admittedly open-ended wording, seems to suggest a longer time span than a day (because otherwise wouldn't they have just said "earlier today" or "yesterday"?), and sure time flows differently in each world, but it's still pretty hard to believe that, by the time the underclassmen caught up with the upperclassmen in Beast's Castle, only maybe an hour or less had passed in Scala, but potentially several days had passed in Beast's Castle.

Not to mention this would also mean that Odin met a missing upperclassmen and (1. didn't stop him from leaving again and (2. didn't inform the underclassmen about this meeting (underclassmen who were still acting on orders to find the missing upperclassmen). Which, you know, typical secretive-ulterior-motives-Odin-stuff, so it's not really even an inconsistency or anything, but still.

This scene taking place in Episode 5...it's possible! It's certainly possible! But...I feel like this just makes things needlessly more confusing and strange. Why would you have Vidar and company initially pursuing a vague and directionless plan for the first half of the game, only to discover their real plan at the midway point? (Especially when we know that Darkness had planned for Vidar to pursue Kingdom Hearts from the very beginning? Why let Vidar meander aimlessly for who knows how long?) Why have Vidar go through the effort of recruiting Vor before he even knows what the hell he's doing? Why have Vidar talk mysteriously about his ambitions in Episode 4 like he was foreshadowing his plan when it turns out he wasn't even talking about the plan he would actually end up with?

Now, could it be a mistake/oversight that this cutscene doesn't look like a flashback? I mean, maybe? But it seems really unlikely to me that (1. this was a mistake at all considering that all the other flashbacks/flashforwards are perfectly fine including the second half of the Vidar + Odin discussion which correctly has letterboxing and (2. that the devs didn't notice it when they updated the game to version 5.0.1 and fixed a bunch of stuff. Which makes me believe that this is perfectly intentional and that this scene does in fact take place in Episode 5. But like. Why. Why would you do this to me.

[haunted-xander]

Drawing every kh original character 7/9