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acrossthewavesoftime · 2 years ago
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If you believe the reports the teachers wrote on the kids there, there was misbehaviour and disobedience left and right. xD
I was there some years ago for a weeklong paleography workshop (lived in the old student accomodation and everything) and my feeling was, going through some 18th century student records, that a lot of the poorer kids were not 'naughty' or disobedient, just traumatised and scared when they arrived there. Many poor parents tried to get their children admitted in hopes that an education would give their child a prospect for a better life, but the children naturally felt that separation from their families acutely. Many were having a hard time adjusting to their new environment with its rigid schedule.
The posh lads on the other hand? Absolute trouble. They did what they did just because they could, testing the authority of their distinguished surname vs. the educational authority of their teachers.
Would you mind sharing your sources? I'd be quite interested in reading those articles!
litany against the GOTification of history.
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marquisevonobst · 8 months ago
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Had the great pleasure to visit Paleis Het Loo with @acrossthewavesoftime and @kattestrophe
Absolutely stunning building.
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gilsart · 1 year ago
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so @kattestrophe and @scribbled-anecdotes are writing a fic that isn't posted yet (the privilege!) and i liked it so much that i've decided i want to illustrate some parts of it every now and then!
hope i will get more done in the future
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estomia · 10 months ago
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Okay hot take, aber Fratte ist voll det kack ship...so vorallem wenn die Jana oder so da was schreibt
@marquisevonobst lass mich nicht alleine
@kattestrophe (hurensohn)
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acrossthewavesoftime · 1 year ago
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...Why are they so easily offended. Who says that, if it were a political barb, that it was directed against that one US-American ex-president? Why do they think the entire world revolves around the US?
There are plenty of other Orange Fools to choose from (the beribboned, pint-sized one on the right in particular...)!
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Behold, an Orange Fool
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eolewyn1010 · 2 years ago
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Oh, hey, there's that making the rounds again! Thank you, @herzeliebes-waltherlin :D
Three ships: not to steal from @kattestrophe but I have to start with my boys Otto and Martin from Charité because DUH (yes, I am re-reading my own story), then of course Schoethe (yes, I am re-reading Referendare und Liebe), and just for the hell of it Elizabeth/Justine from Frankenstein because both of them deserved better from Mr. Shithead himself
Favorite ship ever: Might as well admit it's Tatort's Ivo Batic/Franz Leitmayr
Last song: ...the Kim Possible theme, alright?
Last movie: Disney's Hercules, iirc (I'm having a nostalgia trip and a half here)
Currently reading: The fanfics mentioned above, also mostly stuff on individuals and the calendar of the late Roman Republic as well as on ancient sculpture copying procedures, but also the last bits of Frankenstein (this book is kinda terrible in a Regency literature way, do not recommend, but I wanna discuss every twisted detail of it)
Currently watching: Kim Possible, season 4
Currently consuming: Tea. And a self-made cookie, admittedly.
Currently craving: wayyyyyy more time than 1 month to finish 3 seminar grades
Uhhh... tagging... @str4wanzerin and @chrisoels and @chucklepea-hotpot and @poodlewithaguitar if anyone feels like it
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gilsart · 2 years ago
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did a little fanart of @kattestrophe's work "deine blauen Augen (machen mir so sentimental)" featuring hans hermann von katte, friedrich von hohenzollern and peter von keith (in this exact order) in a modern au. (and a random picture of the german countryside)
i took the personal freedom to give keith blond hair because i couldn't find any colored portraits of him :(
also close up on friedrich, just because:
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estomia · 2 years ago
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Hi!
What books/articles/etc would you reccomend for learning more about Katte? Most of what I know so far I've just learned from Tumblr 😅
Aww this is so sweet of you to ask me this but have not yet read anything specifically about Katte(except Zeithain but that's fictional) . Like he gets mentioned in I guess most books about Frederick 2
And they mention him also In the Memoiren der Marktgräfin von Bayreuth
But I am literally the wrong person for that!! I'm so sorry
@kattestrophe <- knows more about the topic and atleast can help you more on that Topic than I could ever do
(she owns a Katte ancestry tree.. To qualify her as an expert)
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acrossthewavesoftime · 1 year ago
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Not only is calling Leipzig a Bavarian town the most surefire way to provoke the people of Leipzig to defenestrate you from the Uniriese and make it look like an accident, not only is Munich, albeit the capital of Bavaria, not in the Alps, "Bemalte Fassaden" is situated in a Swiss exclave in southern Baden-Württemberg. Do your research!
But, silver linings: at least they didn't google Alpen (Alps) and ended up with the town of Alpen in NRW to serve them as inspiration for the Alpen (Alps)...
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Ah yes, Bemalte Fassaden. Home of famous poets like Mehrstrophiges Gedicht and painters like Bunte Leinwand.
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gilsart · 1 year ago
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Are there any books you can recommend about Friedrich? German or English would be nice.
By the way, your art is so damn cute and adorable!! I am always happy to see you on my dashboard, even if you're "just" answering questions as you seem really nice.
hi!! first of all thank you ,,, means a lot to me, i always re-read my answers to make sure i don't sound rude or anything 😭 anxiety girlies where you at
about the books, there are lots!! i recommend you also ask @kattestrophe - she knows more than i do, especially about the german books; i am neither german nor english so some of those i own aren't available in languages other than my own.
the ones from my collection that are available in english/german are:
frederick the great by william f. reddaway - this is a biography, available in english, i haven't read it all because i only needed the crown prince bit, and that one had historical inaccuracies, so be mindful. but it has images!!
king in prussia by rafael sabatini - this is fiction and also available in english! it's a book from 1944 i believe, divided in two parts, specifically before katte's death and after katte's death up until ... i think the end of the seven years war? i don't know, i haven't read it all and i will stop at katte's death. fritz is very gay in this one as far as i've read, but in a queer disney villain way, which can be fun if you decide to ignore the homophobia. also one of the protagonists is katte's entirely fictional jacobite cousin, the most annoying man on earth.
zeithain by michael roes - this also is fiction, and only available in german. i have only read five pages of it (my german is very poor) and it follows katte, not friedrich. katte is also very sad. but as far as i was told, both of them are gay, so there's that. so far hans is like "it's raining and i'm alone and last week i went to a funeral. i have prayed to the god i lost during my childhood", certainly something very different from how he behaves in king in prussia ...
katte: die geschichte einer freundschaft by gertrud von brockdorff - this is also german only, i'm not sure about the actual book being available (i was sent a pdf) although it could be available in germany?? it is pretty old tho (1934) so i wouldn't know much about that. this one is also more about katte and friedrich, again fiction, it's eight chapters, still haven't read it because this bad boy is written in fraktur and i have trouble reading that but i have had conversations about it, and boy is it queer. there is a single chapter in which katte has a small identity crisis and has a romance with wilhelmine, but after that he's back to longing for frédéric and his "wide, bright and impenetrable" eyes that bewitch everyone. fellas is it gay to think your male friend's eyes are what you need a woman to have so you can actually love her?
the sorrows of frederick by romulus linney - available in english, this is a play from 1966, still haven't read it (the package is somewhere in europe right now), i think it follows all of fritz's life? it has fredersdorf, at least. but fredersdorf here knows katte, so eh. some anachronistic thingies here and there, what's new.
der alte fritz in 50 bildern - i can't figure out the name of the authors (damn it, fraktur) but worry not: this only has somewhat cool illustrations about fritz's life and a little bit of german text. at least some of them are. others are peculiar: voltaire is shorter than fritz in these. he wishes. i'm adding a photo though, so you can see!
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i also own a pretty interesting book, not about fritz but about the seven years war in general, titled "prussian army soldiers and the seven years' war: the psychology of honour" by katrin and sascha moebius (there is an umlaut on the o there; i'm writing this on my pc and don't know where to find it).
i also have "later selected poems" by sheenagh pugh, which contains "five voices", a cycle of five poems showing five different perspectives on katte, if you're interested in that. there isn't a fritz perspective, though.
he also has a short chapter in "bad gays" by huw lemmey and ben miller, but i found it to be somewhat offensive at some point, although that could be a translation issue: there is a pretty offensive slur and some things i found to be inaccurate. overall i wouldn't buy it. i only bought it because the italian edition has very cool illustrations, at a time where i did not know about this translation thing.
the rest of my books are all available in italian only (or about voltaire).
hope this was helpful!
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marquisevonobst · 4 years ago
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10. What pieces of art (i.e. paintings, sculpures, lithographies, etc.) related to history do you like the most?
Sketches at the end of E.T.A Hoffmanns letters. Drawings that depict family members (for example that one pencil drawing by Goethe where his son August sleeps under a tree). Furniture! Imagine your historical favourite sitting down on a big chair having a tea or something. All those things that manage to make you feel close to them, offer security although you never met them and give you a glimpse of their life. Standing in front of a building which is hundreds of years old and feeling that time is nothing. It's magnificent to me.
13. [share some random historical trivia!]
August von Goethe almost died the day his parents got married because he was so hyped and nearly fell out of the carriage.
17. What historical item would you like to own?
Bring breeches back!
23. What’s your favourite historical song or song containing historical references?
Northwest Passage... always. Or Freifrau von Droste-Vischering if I'm in the mood. Practically everything Hannes Wader has written, sung or played.
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crazy-fruit · 3 years ago
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Mal wieder Rollkrägen, weil @kattestrophe​ und ich darüber gesprochen haben. Insbesondere die Kombi aus Rollkragen und Schulterholster.
Eine weitere Bonusfunktion von Rollkrägen:
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acrossthewavesoftime · 2 years ago
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Look who it is, @vankeppel! A Howe in the wild!
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GAINSBOROUGH, Thomas Mary, Countess of Howe 1764 Oil on canvas, 244 x 152,4 cm Iveagh Bequest, Kenwood House, London
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major-knighton · 2 years ago
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(Un) happy Kattestrophic Kustrin day for all who observe it
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your-disobedient-servant · 3 years ago
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You MURTHER Voltaire? You murther Voltaire like the villain and send him from ENGLAND to HELL?
(source, thanks to @kattestrophe for finding this absolute gem)
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gilsart · 1 year ago
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i came across sheenagh pugh's "later selected poems" and did an impulse purchase because i was like, 50% sure five voices was in it (five voices is cycle of five poems about the 1730 tragedy, each poem showing a different perspective on what happened) and it was indeed!
this bad boy was shipped from england so it took quite a long time, but i read it and even though i was familiar with them (thanks @kattestrophe for bearing with my lack of content) i was still very pleased as if it were the first time.
there is a part of the first poem, showing quantz's perspective and the "hiding in the closet" anecdote, that made me sob like a baby:
I had cramp in both feet; he was still laughing, until he saw blood in the Prince's mouth. That sobered him cold enough; his face froze like a hard winter. Myself, I took my flute and my departure. I'd had enough of the quality. If I think of him now, he's always laughing in the dark.
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