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kahvileib replied to your post “Wow, so in the process of writing research, I just learned that some...”
The argument for this is that as figs are commercially grown, the insects for them are provided by the fig farmers (to make more figs for people to eat) instead of them naturally ending up in the situation where they would end up as fig food. So saying the process exploits or at least tricks insects is logically sound, even if few vegans I know of find this to be an issue worth much note compared to all the other things going on regarding the exploitation of animals.
But... that seems like a big stretch. Though it is possible to “trick” a fig into ripening without pollination using plant hormones, the wasps aren’t being “tricked” into doing anything they wouldn’t already be doing in nature. The fig wasp is dependent on the fig for their reproduction. If a female fig wasp lays her eggs inside a male fig, she also promptly dies. Not because she can’t escape, but because that is their life cycle.
It can’t survive long outside of the fig anyway. Once the larvae hatch and mature inside the fig, the males and females mate, and the males burrow holes so the female wasps can escape. The males quickly die thereafter, while the fertilized females carry pollen from one fig to the next one where they will lay their eggs. And die. All the wasps are going to croak regardless. It just happens that sometimes a fig wasp wanders into a female fig (the one people like to eat), where she can’t lay eggs and gets stuck. Either way, the fig, gets pollinated and the wasp dies. Plenty of baby fig wasps are born into the world through the male figs. It’s a mutual relationship, not exploitive. The wasp can’t do its normal thing without the fig it depends on, so...?
And I do understand this argument probably comes from a small number of vegans and is not a representation of most vegans. I agree that there are much more egregious examples of animal exploitation going on that need more energy and attention put to them.
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List ten favourite characters from ten different things and tag 10 people
I was tagged by @kahvileib kiitoksia! ^-^
Do I even watch 10 fictional shows/movies, let's find out.
1. Alex Standall from 13 Reasons Why
2. Eggsy from Kingsman
3. Peter Parker (Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland)
4. Lara Jean from To All The Boys I've Loved Before
5. Steve Harrington from Stranger Things
6. Amy from Brooklyn 99
7. Izzy from Shadowhunters
8. Whatever Kristen Stewart's character was called in Personal Shopper
9. Jane from Jane the Virgin
10. Wonder Woman
Well that took some digging from my poor memory. Some characters I'm a huge fan and some media is good but so many good characters so I just had to pick one. Also yes, very many main characters.
I tag: @sqye @qayalec @teganspinkshorts @freddkennedy @kuukkeli25 @kgrayisgay @hxpnxs @its-all-oppas-fault @tirsu @lekiyo @kultsipippeli and anyone who wants to do this! 😊
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I just received an absurd amount of stickers as a gift from @niuniente and I couldn’t be more grateful! These will bring my kids joy for years to come, this is so generous.
Look at this, it’s nuts:
Also I particularly enjoyed the fact that the parcel was addressed to “Kahvileib”.
Made our day.
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I eat the tops of strawberries, the skins of kiwis and mangoes, and both the cores and sticks of apples. What does that make of me?
#kahvileib#i fear you Annika#but i respect you#honestly i get shivers from thinking about eating an entire hairy kiwi fruit
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kahvileib replied: I thought you knew you had this type, I just thought it included redheads like these too.
I’m mostly surprised by the similarities in facial structures and the exact same hair style..! I notice my types overall, but I never realized there’s a clear pattern in what kind of men inspire me visually the most. I’ve been blind :’DDD
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There's nothing I can say to make you feel better, but don't let your worst moments define you. If you pull through, you'll only come out stronger.
thank you! ♡That really means a lot. I try to keep it in mind
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Hey you, you, my number one relatable post reblogging person - queen of the tags and a superb personality from what I can tell.... I'm glad you're back.
OMG, ANNIKA. I FEEL SO SPECIAL. *blushes furiously* THANK YOU!
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kahvileib replied to your post “kahvileib replied to your post “Wow, so in the process of writing...”
Yeah I get why it seems pretty out there, and to me it seems vegans usually end up with the same conclusion as you have here - that since fig wasps are going to do their fig thing regardless, adding humans into the process isn't such a great perversion of nature.
It's not a big sacrifice to give up figs though when you're already [vegan], so those people who are in the least bothered by this quite easily give them up too - likely without much additional pathos involved. Some people also just like to be puritans. - Also big respect on bothering to go look this up btw!
Thanks. The funny thing is I see a lot of non-vegans just simply grossed out by the idea of a dead wasp inside their fruit, so they won’t touch them either. I grew up with the Fig Newton urban legend, so I was wary when I was a kid. For a cookie, I think the taste and texture are pretty nasty anyway. Not hard to pass on that one XD
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I'm glad to hear that you partook in Veganuary, thank you for making the effort to try it out. :)
I have been vegetarian for almost three years and always hoping to some day go vegan. When I heard of this challenge I was like now is my time to test if I can do it!
I have slipped a couple of times but I think that's fine, it happened when I started vegetarianism too. Hard things now have been going out spontaneously and avoiding things in the cupboards at home. Luckily my mum has been supportive and started buying all vegan alternatives!
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kahvileib replied to your post:
I just got the creepiest OKC message ever, from a...
jesus fuck that even gave me the creeps
I KNOW, RIGHT?!
First I just sent them some question marks and they never answered, perhaps it was a fucking creepy way to make me react in some way?! Then I blocked them, but that doesn’t actually prevent them from seeing my profile, so I reported them and deleted my profile. So fucking creepy.
#kahvileib#there was this one other person I was having really good conversations with#I sent them a message and gave an e-mail to write to me to#But I created a sock e-mail#def learned my lesson#replies
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Tell us about your dreams and goals
[Clenches fist] Right now I would like to graduate from high school, apply to university and study slightly different fields there (culture related still). Study a new language (or two). Get a job by the side of studying and settle down for a while, save some money, travel around Europe and Western Russia. Ah I feel like I’m stuck at a dead end place for me and should starting making serious changes, but going with the flow is so easy. Thank you for stopping by and asking, hope you have a great day!
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You'll ace the concert I'm sure (y) Believe in me who believes in you
thank you so much i needed that ;u;
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to which address should gifts be shipped to?
No need for an address, just yodel and I’ll be there to collect my gift
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kahvileib replied to your post:i wish this show had fewer flashbacks
Wilson Fisk and Vanessa are the best part of the show
i haven’t met them yet, i’m only halfway through the second episode
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Halloween Tag Game
I wanted to do this after seeing it done by @kahvileib
Go apple picking or go on a hay ride: what are these Sweaters or boots: sweaters (i wish i’d found a perfect one to keep me warm) Socks or mittens: mittens are cute Bonfires or football: bonfires because warm, not a sport and s’mores Trick or treating or watch scary movies: scary movies (or tv-series) Apple pie or pumpkin pie: apple pie Halloween or Thanksgiving: halloween, we don’t have thanksgiving in Finland and on halloween you can eat lots of candy and dress different Bake pie or bake cookies: cookies i can, pies i want Rain or fog: rain Black cats or owls: cats Ghosts or wizards: there are both in Hogwarts, let’s just invite them all Hocus Pocus or Halloweentown: i assume these are movies i haven’t watched Cinnamon or nutmeg: cinnamon, because cinnamon rolls and also what is nutmeg Candy apples or caramel apples: caramel apples Coffee or apple cider: well coffee, i’d rather drink hot chocolate Red leaves or orange leaves: red, they are more rare Braids or bows: bows Scented candles or the smell of fresh baked goods: smell of fresh baked goods, because that means food! Carve pumpkins or make pumpkin pie: i’d like to carve a pumpkin but they’re expensive. i have carved an orange which was quite fun. Pumpkin spice lattes or chai tea lattes: pumpkin spice latte, i tasted it a few days ago and it was good Coats or oversized sweaters: over sized sweaters Beanies or hoodies: beanies Candy corn or peanut butter cups: have eaten neither, but i like chocolate more than candies S'mores or apple crisp: like apple chips? s’mores i can’t eat as many as apple chips Jump in a pile of leaves or swing on a tire swing: i love swings Bob for apples or visit a pumpkin patch: what Whipped cream on hot chocolate or marshmallows on hot chocolate: whipped cream, marshmallows are for s’mores Scary movies or scary stories: good scary movies What are your plans for this Halloween?: i can’t because of scouting camp, which will be awful but at least it’ll be over finally
wow, i don’t know a bit of these halloween things
I’ll tag @nerdyythings, @loyalunicorn, @grayacecas, @mukkelismakkelis, @fallenfortherighteous, @death-squadbrat and all those, who are in the halloween mood ^-^
#halloween#kahvileib#nerdyythings#loyalunicorn#grayacecas#mukkelismakkelis#fallenfortherighteous#death-squadbrat#lunadobby#me#personal#sorry for those who i've tagged in so many things
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