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mekatrio · 1 year ago
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hum humm miscellaneous observations from my current manga reading that i hadnt posted yet (chp 18 - chp 37)
- saeru and seto have a parallel to one another, both of them being the one who appears in front of azami and mary respectively when they cry out for help. in this way, they are kind of the antithesis of one another
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- interesting to note that both favoring and saeru were formed after shion's birth. namely, they were both born from azami's love towards shion, an adult's love towards their child. favoring embodies the feelings of wanting to convey this love, and saeru embodies the desire to stay with her forever.
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^left is saeru's awakening, right is azami talking about her receiving favoring eyes
- i had been wondering abt two things that the novels didnt really answer clearly; 1.) why didnt azami read tsukihiko's mind to know whether he was honest abt his intentions, and 2.) how can seto talk to animals? and both of these were answered in the chapters i read. this answer to question 1 is pretty funny:
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and this was actually in the novels too, but the way it was localized didnt make it super clear, so i didnt catch it -_-;;
and as for question 2, no, seto cannot speak to animals (as i had thought)
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- and ill turn this into its own post, but mary's thoughts regarding shion has many parallels to kano's thoughts regarding his own mother
- also rereading manga route 2 reminds me why it was so frustrating to keep up with back when it was still updating, bc it literally dropped the fucking bombshell of AYANO IS ALIVE IN THIS ROUTE?!?!?!? and would not follow up on it until like 8 months later or something like yeah..... this monthly manga format did not do any favors to the fact that this is The kagepro route with the most amount of deviations from the other routes. its literally like looking at a bizzaro timeline that does not make sense in the slightest until you reach the final piece of the puzzle, where everyones characterization has been turned inside out, bc like no other kgpr media has gone to the lengths that the manga has went to. if we had different backstories for these characters in the novels, songs, and anime, then it wouldnt be too jarring, but no, almost everybodys backstories and character motivations across the medias are pretty static; in every media you get the yuukei quartet, hiyori is stuck in the daze, mary joins the mekakushi dan after ayano's suicide, etc, EXCEPT in this manga that updates monthly. so it was very confusing keep up with and required soooooooooooooo much patience. but well what has happened happened, and its nicer now to go thru this knowing i dont have to wait for years to get the answers to plot revelations
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kattitude130 · 2 years ago
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@katskorner @spector-defender GREAT! kagepro was one of my first interactions with vocaloid, but it’s kind of a doozy, but a fun doozy
there’s a story being told thru the lyrics and videos, but it can be a bit vague or convoluted, so you may need an explanation (or just ask me, i’ve been a fan since i was like 11 or 12 so i’ve got my phd)
it’s important to note that the story involves different timelines, timeloops, and multiple endings, and that there are also light novels, a manga, and an anime that all depict a different timeline (or timelines), and together they form a full story (instead of completely separate stories). if you’re interested, i usually recommend going songs -> novels -> manga -> anime
BUT if you’re just here for sweet vocaloid beats (and cool animations) that’s fine too the music is really good 👍
i’m hyper-fixated on kagerou project again and i made a playlist of every song in story order for people to get into it and i was so hyper focused that when i was done i felt sweaty hungry and confused. anyway is literally anybody interested
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fuckyeahkagepro · 6 years ago
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Kagerou Project References ~ Novel II Timeline Notes (credit to: here / translator / summarizer: zkmn) from “- a headphone actor -”, Yuukei Yesterday III, Japanese version*: (timeline notes by a much older 2k12 era translator): (emphasises / bolding / italics / etc. mine) (*please understand they were using the Japanese edition as a reference + translating / summarizing from it) (friendly reminder re: official Routes order:) [ Music (+”extra editions”) -> Manga -> Novels -> ??? MCA [Anime] ??? is the “closest to the latter” - Jin -> any ??? etc.? -> ] (*please note MCA does not have an official timeline listed in the Kagerou Project 2016 guide unlike the others linked) (*Children Record is also the “opening theme” of the project as a whole**) (*Summertime Record is also the “ending theme” of the project as a whole**) [**...thus far]
It’s the middle of summer. [present day]
After (!!!) the school festival, Takane and Haruka became second year students.
At the moment, they’re in school for a summer course (extra lessons)
Which is more like working through a gigantic pile of practice questions
After the festival ended, Takane and Haruka cleaned up the classroom. (Some various exchanges occured between them and Kenjirou here) (see the linked summary for further notes but please remember) (this was 2k12 era and many later plot things weren’t revealed yet)
Unlike Takane, academics-wise, Haruka’s good enough to not need to come for summer classes, but because his attendance record is dismal, he has to come anyway.
She remembers that last Christmas* [*timeframe], Haruka came up with a plan for a Christmas party and got her and Kenjirou to join in. Since it was his birthday* as well, [*December 24th, Christmas Eve] she thought to give him a surprise by buying him a nice present… but on the day itself, he had an attack and collapsed. [*basically, Haruka’s birthday had passed here.]
Since he was rushed to hospital soon after, he turned out fine, and got discharged after a week*… [*so he is discharged by Dec. 31st or January 1st or so?] but then one month later* it happened again. [*February?] This time it didn’t get better as quickly, and he couldn’t leave hospital for a month* or so. [*March?...]
They both managed to move on to the next year of school (becoming 2nd year high school students)*, [*April 1st is when the Japanese school year begins] but Haruka’s condition seemed to become worse and his attacks happened more frequently.
Back to present day*. [*”middle of summer”] Haruka has another attack etc.
She heads back to the classroom, and someone calls out to her. It’s Ayano… seems like she came for summer classes too.
Even though [Ayano*]’s only in the first year*, [*of JAPANESE HIGH SCHOOL] her results are terrible
Deciding that this is not a good topic, Takane asks about Shintarou because she doesn’t see him nearby. According to Ayano, his results are good so he doesn’t need summer classes.
this is also the part where Ayano implies [convey your feelings] to Takane
Takane reaches the classroom again after parting with Ayano. Gets the flash of inspiration to tell her feelings to Haruka. But, right after, she has her attack.
She can barely move now. In her fading vision she sees someone standing at the end of the corridor, someone who shouldn’t be here… and she thinks, it took too long for her to realize. It took too long for her to say—”—Haruka, I love you.”
Headphone Actor IV, a next chapter + commences.
“Takane” is waking up and taking note of her surroundings, yells out etc.
"Takane” hears [KENJIROU’S VOICE] talking-
“……1 is a success. Haha……to think that I’d succeed on the first try. It did take a year to prepare.”
“Takane” can see from the other side of the “screen” her body as well as
Haruka’s avatar, Konoha...
Once again she hears “Kenjirou’s voice” talking.
“Anyway, I have the “key” now. With this, I can reopen the next “Kagerou Daze”. Konoha……you’re still……”
Timeline Notes (briefly, not counting the official Routes): takane & haruka are 1st year high school students during the year of the school festival -> (shintaro & ayano are a year below, so, they’re still junior high school 9th graders, “14-going-on-15″ IF we didn’t have the conflicting ages issue going on. the conflicting ages issue means during this timeframe point they might be 15 here using the conflicting ages - but they’re conflicting ages for a reason. because they conflict with the real-world based timeline.) (kido, kano, & seto are all in the same grade, and a year below shintaro & ayano. meaning junior high school 8th graders during this particular timeframe, i.e. the year of Takane & Haruka’s school festival. the japanese school year begins in april and ends in march. birthday order is kano (may) -> kido (next january) -> seto (next march). thus, kano is the oldest of the trio and closest in age to shintaro & ayano, while seto’s the youngest, and kido is some months younger than kano.) (MOMO particularly is a year below Kido, Kano & Seto. during the timeframe of August 15ths, Momo can only be 15 chronologically if going by the real-world timeline, thus, her age particularly conflicts.) [*please see: Japanese school year reference for typical real-world ages. ] [*please see my FAQ for more on the conflicting ages issue!!] the school festival happens -> before this years’ christmas, haruka got the idea for the christmas party -> on the day of his birthday itself, has an attack and collapses -> rushed to the hospital “soon after”, discharged “after a week” so a week post-haruka’s birthday -> one month later it happens again -> haruka can’t leave the hospital for another month or so -> in spring, / April 1st, takane & haruka become 2nd year high school students -> taking summer courses / extra lessons during the middle of summer -> ayano meanwhile is still in the 1st year + with shintaro also as a 1st year, but shintaro isn’t taking the summer classes -> ayano tells takane to tell her feelings before it’s too late [convey our feelings while we’re still alive] -> right after this encounter takane is inspired to confess to haruka takane runs off to do so -> has an attack and passes out -> wakes up wherever “kenjirou’s voice” is / his lab -> “kenjirou’s voice” talking -> kenjirou mentions he “prepared for a year” -> takane sees konoha -> “Anyway, I have the “key” now. With this, I can reopen the next “Kagerou Daze”. Konoha……you’re still……” -> takane encounters [her snake] -> haruka: does not reach his next birthday [december 24th] [”the middle of summer” -> cue all the rest + August 15ths ] -> takane’s birthday: still “ ??? ” (non-existent) + in Yuukei Yesterday I as an aside note, Takane slept for “11 hours”. (this occurs during the time period where the school is still preparing for the school festival / the novels’ start.) - Takane told her grandmother “yesterday” (this occuring before the sleeping for 11 hours bit, that is, she wakes up and refers to “yesterday”) that she wanted tamagoyaki for lunch. - Headphone Actor I chapter is placed before Yuukei Yesterday chapters in chapter order. - The voice [”her own”, coming from Takane’s headphones] asks her - isn’t there a place you need to go? Isn’t there something you need to tell someone?
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lunar-art · 3 years ago
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if anything this just makes her want to call konoha “imposter” More 
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nonbinaryhomu · 3 years ago
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Mami tomoe?
ah yes wife...
favorite thing about them: good god i love her personality! the mom friend is always my type of favorite character and i just can't don't love her. also the different story really fits her character well, so i guess i should say her tds personality
least favorite thing about them: i'm feeling like a sinner saying this, but her design... in anime this looks not bad, but when i'm reading manga i'm just- i swear, when i'm drawing her i'm never using her official design, i have my redesign instead (maybe i'll post this. maybe.)
favorite line: 'i want to meet you all in a world without witches' and her all suicide note in tds tbh. this just hurt me so bad and explains how much she loved her friends and cared because she wanted to them to never suffer anymore by fighting witches or becoming them and-
brotp: kyomami because i'm headcanoning kyoko as aroace lol but homumami also good. i'm seeing they as disaster lesbians and it's beautiful
otp: BASICALLY kyomami but as i said before, i'm headcanoning kyoko as aroace in most ways, so i'm going to pick madomami, i care about them a lot and they was my first pmmm otp (also hey i'm sucker for senpai-kouhai relationships). but i love any mami x someone from holy quintet ship! she loves everyone and everyone loves her
notp: romantic maminagi i guess. there's nothing to talk about it. also mami x kyubey, please, stop? (also my friend send me a mami x hitler ff day ago and. and.)
random headcanon: she's trans girl and lesbian! i don't know how to comment first, but for second i'm gonna say what i think: her first love interest was kyoko, but when she left her she started feeling something for madoka (anime timeline)/sayaka (tds) and then sayaka/madoka. finally she also crushes homura and she realized she literally can love any of her friend so she never would confess first, she's waiting for someone to say this to her because she don't care with who she would end in rest of her life. she's just 'friends hot.'
unpopular opinion: mami's head jokes aren't funny
song i associate with them: bro i have an entire playlist for her i can't pick one. but rolling girl/little miss perfect/summer depression i guess. also days because i'm a kagepro trash.
favorite picture of them:
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her little smile is!! my everything!!
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izzyizumi · 4 years ago
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Digimon Adventures ~ x Kagerou Project “Never-Lost Word” AMV [music (C) Jin, singer: Hatsune Miku / Vocaloid] featuring CHARACTERS/DUO/SHIP[s]: SORA TAKENOUCHI (main character in this AMV; side chara in series) + Taichi Yagami [Taichi “Tai” Kamiya in US] x Koushiro(u) Izumi [Koushiro “Izzy” Izumi in US] ~ KOUTAI / [Taishiro(u)] & with bonus scenes for: Sora Takenouchi x Mimi [So(Ra)Mi] as side main ship Yamato x Sora [Sorato] / x Mimi [YamaSoMi] as an EQUAL OT3 {brief} [OR +Jou for YamaJouraMi] as equal polyships ~ you can feel free to read in whichever of the above pairs/combos you want along with your preferred LGBTQIAPN+ / Queer headcanons!; (or anything else that’s in my shiplist pretty much!) however, please keep in mind the MAIN ship/OTP is KOUTAI. It is NOT intended as “brotp only” but AS SHIP.
PAST AMVS / VIDEO EDITS IN THIS SERIES: Kagerou Daze (Heat-Haze Daze) / Children Record [+Adv Chosen] / RED / Additional Memory and Imaginary Reload music edits for KageDaze / Days (short edit) / Lost Time Memory / Yesterday Evening / Summertime Record / Shounen Brave [+Jou] / Outer Science [+Villains] / Headphone Actor (short edit) / DAZE (short version / TV Size OP) / KOUSHIROS ? CYBER JOURNEY [+Maki] / Brave Heart x Kaien Panzermast [+Chosen Children] / Night Tales Deceive [Yobanashi Deceive] / [KOUSHIRO’S] Imaginary World / Mekakushi Code [Blindfold Code] [+Yamato&Sora&Adv Chosen] / Ultramarine Rain [+Mrs Yoshie Izumi; Izumis] / Imagination Forest [+Mimi&Jou] / Transparent Answer [TaiKou+Meiko] / Jinzou Enemy [Artificial Enemy] / DEAD and SEEK (short edit) / Headphone Actor (Full version Preview) / Otsukimi Recital [Moon Viewing Recital] [Advs Taishiro & 2020 Taishiro] / My Funny Weekend [+Mimi&Hikari&Adv Chosen] (Note: Check the link for ‘ Otsukimi Recital ‘ for ALL links to both past AMVs as well as STORY INFO / the story introduction link!)
part of my Taishiro [Taichi x Koushiro] REPEAT?_ ficverse (please note any and all notes/trigger warnings for said ficverse!!) [seriously, please note the warnings, the plot is kinda heavy] {YOU DO NOT NEED to read the fic to enjoy the AMVs!} (please note any and all warnings for Kagepro’s plot too if you look into that!!) - no, it’s NOT a direct parody (but v[ERY] inspired) (if you can’t tell) - watching it in HIGH(ER) QUALITY at the original Youtube link is encouraged! - to do so, on the youtube video above, click “HD” button/box, then “1080p”!
(*It’s ok to Start on/only watch this current AMV!) [*You may understand the story/implied timeline of things better if you begin from my “Kagerou Daze” AMV, though it’s also not required! “Children Record” is also recommended as a starting point/upbeat song! “DAZE” also serves as a mini Opening theme song and is also upbeat!] {Additional note: this post/fanworks series is mainly intended TAICHI x KOUSHIRO [Taishiro], please remember + respect this when interacting please tag ONLY as “Taishiro” for ship and not just “brotp” or the like, thank you!} [*it is ok to tag as “friendship” only if along WITH the ship name!] {*I don’t mind if others have differing LGBTQIAPN+ headcanons for them, please simply respect mine!} {NOTE : PLEASE read my FAQ and “about” sections BEFORE interacting directly with me, my contents / fanworks / this series, or my blog!!!}
SHORT VERSION SUMMARY:
I HAVE THINGS TO SAY, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE
It was like a {PICTURE-PERFECT} {“WORLD”}, I couldn't help but look at it {ENVIOUSLY}
- “IT’S OK” “IF YOU WANT TO STOP...”
THEN, I MANAGED(?) TO {SPEAK WEIRDLY} THROUGH {MY TEARS}
{FINALLY}, I MADE IT to {THE FUTURE}(?)...
originating series tagline: {the story of MYSELF, ONE that’s rather “DIFFICULT” to TELL.}
[initial fan lyrics by dennoushoujo!] (Full lyrics under ‘read more!’)
NOTE: - this AMV contains minor Tri spoilers through to Soushitsu {LOSS}. (mainly Sora aesthetics and friendship moments) - along with a few tiny action moments from the final movies. (mostly just with the Digimon) i.e. Birdramon {it may look a bit spoilery but hopefully you can overlook that?} - as well as tiny moments of; -- DigiAdv 2020 Ep. 03; (Sora + KouTai relevant moment) -- “To Sora” (including end) pre-Kizuna short story episode; -- Kizuna credits (Sora’s moment ONLY)
*NOTE: in this particular ‘verse I like to headcanon Sora as being on the ASEXUAL and/or AROMANTIC-spectrum [ex. Bi-romantic Ace, or Demi-romantic Bi, etc. etc.] I also like to headcanon Sora as struggling with gender presentation in general. [ex. Non-binary and/or Gender-queer, Gender non conforming...]
- in a last ditch effort to help save the worlds, Koushiro Izumi ...kind of gets stuck in a never-ending TIME LOOP - basically, what if, at any point of the series, the Chosen FAILED?
- Taichi Yagami gets dragged in while trying to save him ... and the rest of the team / their friends {but he’s kind of fixated on Saving Koushiro most importantly} [because if Koushiro is gone they’re kind of screwed] {and, well, they’re kind of getting closer in the meantime} [...or trying to]
- In between the time loop messes with their memories upon each reset - Therefore, EITHER may or may not remember the events of any past timelines while still trying to resolve future loops {Here, however...??}
- In between the Adventures Chosen become rather scattered - all of a sudden both Koushiro and Taichi, may wind up taking very different routes depending on timelines sometimes even ending up completely alone
- But as for the rest...?
- “IT’S OK” “IF YOU WANT TO STOP...”
originating series tagline: {the story of myself, one that’s rather difficult to tell.}
[ initial fan lyrics / another version of a fan translation here ! ]
LYRICS:
[Verse 1]
The voice from the mirror says, "HEY, GOOD MORNING" My facial expression is {awful} as usual
The {same awkward smile}, the {same bedhead} and the {same gestures}
{I'M SICK OF IT ALL...}
{IT SEEMS} {SO} {UNFAIR.}
[Verse 2]
I HAVE THINGS TO SAY, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE BUT CAN'T PUT {ANY OF THEM} INTO, {WORDS.}
{MUMBLING} with {MY HEAD DOWN} TODAY {AGAIN},
"You CAN'T EVEN SAY {HELLO}"; "{POOR THING.}"
The dogwood {flowers} in the garden {were} so beautiful {I couldn't help} but {look at it} {ENVIOUSLY} {IN CONTRAST} {I'M}, {SUCH A HOPELESS CASE},
{I WISH} I COULD {VANISH}, {JUST LIKE THAT}.
[Chorus 1]
Strangely enough, in this {WORLD} {it's HARD} to do {ORDINARY} things UNABLE to say {ANYTHING} BACK, {FEELING LIKE AN IDIOT} {I'M REDUCED TO TEARS.}
MISUNDERSTANDING AGAIN AND AGAIN, I've become {SICK OF IT}
{LIKE FLOWERS THAT DIE BEFORE BLOSSOMING},
{I CAN'T FIND} ANY {WORDS} FOR {THE FUTURE...}.
With a {WEIRD}, {SCARED}-LOOKING Face
{I always tend to run away.} {No, it's not helping}
{Too shy to do anything but} {SHUT MY MOUTH}
{/I'm totally sick of it all./}
[Verse 3]
There are {PEOPLE} who can {“LAUGH”} and {““TALK””} {AS “BEAUTIFULLY” AS FLOWERS BLOOM}...
Then I HEAR, a {BLAMING VOICE} from the {MIRROR},
{"I'M SORRY." "/I CAN'T/ /DO THAT/."}
[Verse 4]
It was like a {PICTURE-PERFECT} {WORLD}, I couldn't help but look at it {ENVIOUSLY}, Trying to get out of the way, what should I {DO}? {I WANT TO LET IT GO} {I CAN'T LET IT GO} {OH,},
[Chorus 2]
{MY UNCONTROLLABLE SELF}; {IT'S SO MISERABLE} AND {UGLY} {I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO SEE IT}; {SO I'M} {CRYING} {IN THE CORNER} {OF MY ROOM.}
“IT’S OK” “IF YOU WANT TO STOP...” [It's ok NOT to let it go]
I heard {THE VOICE} from {NOWHERE}, that sounded like {MAGIC}, Somehow I'm at a loss for {Words}
{DON'T BE AFRAID} {JUST SAY IT} {WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY} {SPEAK IT OUT!} {SPEAK IT OUT!} THEN, {I} MANAGED TO {SPEAK WEIRDLY} THROUGH {MY TEARS} {IT SEEMS SO SILLY.} ...
[Interlude Verse] {after instrumental}
{FINALLY}, I made it to {THE FUTURE} {YES}, it's a {COLORFUL WORLD} HERE {GROWING UP} {GRADUALLY}, {I KEEP CHANGING.}
...With {UNCHANGING BELIEFS}... , {CHERISHED IN MY HEART.}
[Final Chorus]
{STRANGELY ENOUGH} in this {WORLD}, IT'S HARD TO {REMEMBER THINGS}, {THE WORDS} THAT {I DON'T WANT} TO {FORGET}, {I'M GONNA KEEP EXPRESSING THEM} {TRYING TO NEVER LOSE THEM}
{SOME DAY,} IT'D BE NICE {TO JUST SHARE A LAUGH} {WITH SOMEONE IN THIS WORLD}, THINKING LIKE {THAT}, IN THE {FUTURE}, I'll surely find a {REASON}
{FIX THE BEDHEAD}, AND {GO OUT}. TODAY again, after SAYING
"GOOD MORNING"
BACK TO,
                                    {ANOTHER 'FLOWER'},
                         ...{BLOSSOMING} in {THE MIRROR.}
NOTE: - this AMV contains minor Tri spoilers through to Soushitsu {LOSS}. (mainly Sora aesthetics and friendship moments) - along with a few tiny action moments from the final movies. (mostly just with the Digimon)
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[originating series video for comparisons purposes!]: (warning: imageries of fire; snakes; scissors; implied non-majorly-graphic [in view] psuedo-deaths) {however, the series itself can get dark. Take precaution!}
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#sora takenouchi#yamasomi#yamajourami#taikourato#taiorato friendship#taiora friendship#izzyizumi amvs#izzyizumi posts#repeatverse#fic: repeat#amv: never lost word#repeat sora#digimon polyships#nonromantic taiora#platonic taiora#(so I've basically given up on finishing the subs to this thing for now)#(until then have this post because I'm really stressed at the moment and trying to find a way to calm down)#(i made this amv a month ago after pouring hours into it as usual)#(there's like 2 glitchy moments but this is probably the best it'll look without subs otherwise)#(every single person in this fandom needs to Shut Up TM about canonical Sora Takenouchi and LEAVE HER ALONE TM)#(I EXPRESS MY RAGE AT HOW THIS FANDOM TREATS THE GIRLS IN GENERAL VIA MY AMV MAKING)#(anyway I genuinely worked SUPER HARD on this and . I don't even know anymore I HOPE it Shows and also this series' music in general)#(means SO MUCH TO ME and I NEVER THOUGHT I'D EVEN BE ABLE TO FIT THIS ONE IN THE AMV SERIES IN THIS WAY so YUP)#(genuinely you can read in nearly any ships and headcanons you want just PLEASE respect my own and don't break up Taishiro)#(instead you can ask me about my verses with Arospec!Koushiro and how he works with any of these other charas because I HAVE THOSE)#(you can ALSO ask me about my other @rospec or @ro@ce headcanons for literally any other character involved in these ships ThankYou)#(the final text lines are. something I added in for my friends originally but they basically emphasize what this amv is supposed to Mean)#(anyway ever since tri started and tumblr in general became Terrible TM I held off on making these. and stopped holding off more Lately)
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alonectorch · 5 years ago
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August 15th Recap
Another year gone by, another August 15th where hardcore fans, people who never post about kagepro, and dead accounts alike rise from the depths and put Kagerou Project #1 on Trending for 24 hours. This one was pretty uneventful, but if anyone missed anything, I’ll recap everything the English-speaking community knows happened on the 15th.
notes: this timeline will be using Japan time for hours, and information from the secret event is not allowed to be released yet.
8/15 - 7:00 am: Information about how to enter the secret event is posted to the Edword Records twitter. The secret event is split up into two parts and you get in by displaying the QR code you received if you were chosen (there were so many applicants they had to make getting tickets a lottery) Part 2 starts at 1:30 pm.
8/15 - 1:30 pm: Shouichi Taguchi, (aka sentimental vector), the artist who sang Kagerou Days in the Mekakucity Actors soundtrack, uploaded a piano arrangement cover of Kagerou Days to YouTube
8/15 - 1:50 pm: Attendees of the secret event start telling the internet that they’re not allowed to talk about what happened at the secret event on social media
8/15 - 2:15 pm: Kagerou Daze Day hits trending on Japanese twitter 
8/15 - 5:30 pm: Kagerou Project hits #1 on trending on tumblr.
8/15 - 6:30 pm: It’s announced on the Edword Records twitter that both parts of the secret event have ended.
8/15 - 6:30 pm: The Mekakucity Quest website is made public. It’s translated here. The game is an arg-kind-of puzzle game that you need to get a ticket and go to Enoshima to play. You get a mystery-solving kit use that and the LINE app to do various things and solve mysteries with the help of Kagepro characters to and get clear benefits. The story is that you’re a tourist of Enoshima and suddenly Ene pops up on your phone, asks for help, and disappears. Shintarou calls you and asks for your help in saving her. The event starts in September and goes until November.
8/15 - 6:30 pm: Jin announces that Kagerou Daze No. 9 will be screening in January 2020. He calls it a spin-off work for the first time, and says that it will be taking on a different angle than regular Kagerou Project stuff. In this tweet an image of a new Kagepro character is linked, and he credits sayuki for designing her. He thanks sayuki for bringing us a new character after such a long time. The image in question is below.
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8/15 - 6:45 pm: It’s announced via the Edword Records twitter that there’s a huge poster of the new character in Nishihama beach, where they’re holding Mekakucity Seaside. The poster is just the one above but very slightly zoomed out and one other very minor difference
8/16 - 2:30 pm: Kagerou Project rapidly drops from trending on tumblr, moving from #1 place to not trending at all in minutes.
8/16 - 4:45 pm: Jin posts two drawings, thanking everyone for voting a lot for the Kagepro Song Popularity poll. The results are going to be announced in a manga which is in production at the time of the tweet. He also says "The gang is on a rampage now. Please wait a little more until the announcement!  The one who isn’t in the gang is also rampaging.” credit to @fuyuyuu for the translation of that tweet. The images on the tweet are shown below. Also the art style of these images looks completely new and I think we might have a new artist
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8/16 - 8:30 pm: Jin says that the Kagerou Daze. No. 9 Logo and the poster in Enoshima were designed by Jun Watanabe. He says that Jun helped him with various works,including NIRVANA, and that he wants to work together in the future.
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trainer-stealthclaw · 5 years ago
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Forbidden Proof of Existence by stealthclaw96
"Disappearing, rotting away, my true feelings dissolve... in a story where proof of my existence is forbidden."
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Despite being so different, the Ayano in most routes and the manga Ayano, who became Shintaro's Snake of Retaining Eyes, really are similiar, huh... Listening to Additional Memory again, I realised this. Though the song shows how the usual Ayano, while stuck in the Heat Haze, forces herself to ignore her own feelings in order to erase proof that she lived, if you really think about it, the same situation can be said for the manga route 02's Ayano. After she gave up everything and became the Snake of Retaining Eyes, I'm certain she also had to bury her own emotions. And so, it became a story where nobody knew her own existence as Ayano Tateyama, except herself - and the proof she once existed as her own self is forbidden in this tale. Man, Ayano really has it rough, no matter which timeline... On another note, happy Kagerou Day! And gosh, it's really been a long time since I've uploaded something... I've got several pieces, some half-finished, some in the sketching stages, that I've been working on for a while, but honestly...I've just been so burnt out. Honestly, I had even forgotten about Kagerou Day until yesterday, when I saw a sudden influx of more kagepro art out of nowhere. So in all honesty, this is something that I ending up rushing with, but I still can't believe I managed to make this so quickly! It really feels nice to complete a drawing for once lol. So have a great Kagerou Day everyone, and as per every August 15th, remember to watch out for trucks, cats on the road, and suspicious snakes who claim they can grant wishes. Media - SAI
EDIT: Forgot to add back the watermark when resizing, sorry! Please reblog this version!
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koushirouizumi · 4 years ago
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K s H r O ‘ S THEORY O F H A P P I N E S S
Digimon Adventures ~ x Kagerou Project {Ayano}’s “Theory of Happiness” (also aka: “Happiness Theory”) AMV [music (C) Jin, singer: IA / Vocaloid ] (Kagepros [subbed] video for Comparing: watch here!) featuring DUO/SHIP: Taichi Yagami [Taichi “Tai” Kamiya in US Dub] x Koushiro(u) Izumi [Koushiro(u) “Izzy” Izumi in US Dub ~ {KOUTAI}/{TaiKou}/{Taishiro(u)}
PAST AMVS / VIDEO EDITS IN THIS SERIES: Kagerou Daze (Heat-Haze Daze) / Children Record [+Adv Chosen] / RED / Additional Memory and Imaginary Reload music edits for KageDaze / Days (short edit) / Lost Time Memory / Yesterday Evening / Summertime Record / Shounen Brave [+Jou] / Outer Science [+Villains] / Headphone Actor (short edit) / DAZE (short version / TV Size OP) / KOUSHIROS ? CYBER JOURNEY [+Maki] / Brave Heart x Kaien Panzermast [+Chosen Children] / Night Tales Deceive [Yobanashi Deceive] / [KOUSHIRO’S] Imaginary World / Mekakushi Code [Blindfold Code] [+Yamato&Sora&Adv Chosen] / Ultramarine Rain [+Mrs Yoshie Izumi; Izumis] / Imagination Forest [+Mimi&Jou] / Transparent Answer [TaiKou+Meiko] / Jinzou Enemy [Artificial Enemy] / DEAD and SEEK (short edit) / Headphone Actor (Full version Preview) / Otsukimi Recital [Moon Viewing Recital] [Advs Taishiro & 2020 Taishiro] My Funny Weekend [Mimi & Hikari & Advs+02+2020 Chosen/Taishiro] (Note: Check the link for ‘My Funny Weekend‘ for all links to both past AMVs as well as story info / the story introduction link!)
REPEATVERSE/EXTENDED STORY INTRODUCTION: HERE (*note: extended summary contains some spoilers for the fic) [however, it also explains the worldbuilding involved and plot setup!] (*It’s ok to start on/only watch this current AMV!) [*You may understand the story/implied timeline of things better if you begin from my “Kagerou Daze” AMV, though it’s also not required! “Children Record” is also recommended as a starting point/upbeat song!]
Basic Summary of This Video:
“RED is the color of A HERO, so there’s NO NEED to be afraid!”...
Lyrics Preview:
What I thought back on was, again, My family; [“This is YOUR home, so make yourself comfortable, Koushiro!”]
But I WONDER  if   I  have     Become
///  “THEIR CHILD” ///
... NOW.
Please try to  remember  That Word  I  loved;  "HAPPINESS"  is  a   “Curious”  THING...
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part of my Taishiro [Taichi x Koushiro] REPEAT?_ ficverse (please note any and all notes/trigger warnings for said ficverse!!) [seriously, please note the warnings, the plot is kinda heavy] (please note any and all warnings for K@gepro’s plot too if you look into that!!) - no, it’s NOT a direct parody (but v[ERY] inspired) (if you can’t tell) - watching it in HIGH(ER) QUALITY at the original Youtube link is encouraged! - to do so, go to the original youtube link, click “HD” button, then “ 1080p ” !
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- short version of implied story/plot of this series: T I M E L O O P S - Tri ( and as of lately, um, KIZUNA [AUs?] ??? ) is here because … ah… - let’s just say it’s probably AT LEAST ONE part of the “start” of it all ah - KOUSHIRO IZUMI VOICE : ( ‘ W H Y ’ ) - DO THEY MAKE IT TO THE END - @ TAICHI & KOUSHIRO, ARE YOU SURE YOU /WANT/ TO ——-
- TBH HOW MUCH do KOUSHIRO or TAICHI even REALLY REMEMBER - MUCH LESS THE REST OF THEM - who even knows after a certain point anymore - timeloops are fun !! ! ! (this particular AMV also explains SOME of it …) Spoiler warnings for Tri / Kizuna / DigiAdv 2020 - Tri minimal spoilers up through Bokura no Mirai!Koushiro. {Mainly aesthetic-like scenes only, including for Koushiro.} - DigiAdv 2020 spoilers for Eps 1~2 only. (This A.M.V. was made before the later eps aired.) - Tri minimal spoilers up through Bokura no Mirai!Koushiro. - DigiAdv 2020 spoilers for Eps 1~2 only. (This A.M.V. was originally made before the later eps aired.) - There is NO Kizuna in this AMV {As it primarily deals with a during-BNM, pre-Tri end implied timeline.}
NOTE on Lyrics: The lyrics have been lightly modified by myself from the original as the original singer was a girl character, and some minor lyrical contexts were specific to the originating series; so the lyrics have been modified to fit Koushiro slightly better (including Koushiro’s specific canonical ADOPTION backstory.) - Mrs. Izumi’s P.O.V. is also featured by the ends of the 1st verse. (As in Mrs Izumi is “speaking” to Koushiro through these lyrics, up until the P.O.V. switches back to Koushiro’s again; Taichi’s may also feature by some later sections {see video details!} but in reality either one could be singing portions of this song to each other!)
What I THOUGHT BACK ON was , AGAIN , MY FAMILY ; [ “ This is YOUR HOME, so make yourself comfortable, Koushiro ! ” ] In [ a LITTLE PLACE ] with [red?] [brick?] WALLS , He mutters to himself, as if making SECRET PLANS In the [ PURE BLACK EYES ]      BROUGHT HERE Lies a past he has   HIDDEN FROM       A D U L T S With [ embarrassment ? ] F E A R in   HIS EYES   , he [ mutters ] SAYS CRIES " I’M SCARED “
[” I’m JUST A MONSTER ! “] So I TELL HIM, ” DON’T BE ! ”  [” THAT’S NOT TRUE AT ALL !!! “] ” RED is THE COLOR OF A    H E R O , so there’s NO NEED to be afraid ! “ [ " YELLOW is THE COLOR OF THE SUN’S RAYS, so YOU’LL DEFINITELY BE OKAY !….. ” ] ... Wondering what he would find fun, I am ACTING the “ M O T H E R ” a g a i n “ Hey, LOOK ! ” [ HE ? ] [ I ?? ? ] wrapped [himself?] [ m y s e l f ] in [RED?] [antics]; [RED?] [YELLOW??] [scarf?] [C A P E?] “ We’re like SECRET AGENTS ! ” DYED in [ MADDER RED? ] , we’ll B E G I N , even if we’re merely P L A Y I N G  H E R O E S “ As long as we can manage just a little smile… ” We will  BE    FAMILY    STILL      TODAY I PRAY for HAPPINESS in THE FUTURE AHEAD , so HOWEVER SAD it may be… “ Now keep this A SECRET ! ” The sun sets with us     LAUGHING . … The SPRING breeze blows, and the now-ADULT world Is i r r a t i o n a l l y bent, as if CONSPIRED to be . The thick and faded tears of [loved ones?]   [ H I M ] Go UNNOTICED BY ALL, turning B L A C K Things had GONE CRAZY, but by the time I NOTICED, I could NOT TELL A N Y O N E “ NO , N O , I DON’T WANT TO BE     DESTROYED ! ” … There CAME A WORLD where HAPPINESS E N D S . “ [ RED c o l o r ], PLEASE. N O M O R E; DON’T BRING RUIN TO ANYONE ELSE’S F U T U R E . ” I thought as I CRIED again, keeping it HIDDEN WITH A SMILE “ … IF    I    HAD [   T H A T  … RED ?   ]    M Y S E L F , could I S A V E     S O M E O N E ’ S     F U T U R E ? ” AWKWARD and SHAMEFUL , this is my          L O N E L Y  P L A N … . … … … … … … … … … … … Now that    I ’ M    G O N E  ,    I WONDER IF                                        [    M Y  F A M I L Y    ] Are S T I L L G E T T I N G A L O N G , and SMILING TOGETHER ? I ‘ M S U R E they must be    U P S E T    WITH ME — But I W O N D E R  I F   I  H A V E     B E C O M E                                      ///      “   THEIR CHILD   "      /// … N O W . Please try to    REMEMBER       THAT WORD      I   L O V E D;   "   H A P P I N E S S   "   is    a       C U R I O U S          T H I N G , SO I HOPE
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summertime-children · 6 years ago
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WIP Challenge
Tagged by @kikithedeceiver​ (thanks~)
Tagging: @starspatter​, @cookiehoodie​ and Meli if she ever sees this bc I want a snippet of all her unwritten knkd fics (?) (and if any writer out there needs a nudge to share their WIPs, feel tagged!)
Challenge: post the names of all the files in your WIP folder, regardless of how non-descriptive or ridiculous.
I’ll do what what Kiki did and post titles of my WIPs with comments and short fragments of them? I’ll share here only my kagepro WIPs (so basically kidokano/Kano ones lol). A little warning before we start: it’s going to be very long lol bc I can’t finish fics to save a live and I have... lots of ideas, plus I never get to talk about them >.> Also they’re going to be getting gradually worse bc I’ll go from newest to ancient-est. (Full disclosure tho, those aren’t raw quotes from my WIPs bc some had so visible grammar errors, I just had to fix them + I always put notes in my works, like every second word lol) Here we go.
Listen
Comment: This is the freshiest one, I was writing bits of it merely the day before, and because of that I still naively believe I will finish and post it soon, so I won’t say anything more about it.
”I want you to understand. You… need to know there’s so much to love about you!”
“Haha like what?” he laughed with bitter sounding laugh, something that must had slipped as it was followed by a face she had occasion to see only a few times- a face of regret. Regret of choosing wrong words, wrong mask to put on or forgetting to put her at all.
Different ways to say it
Comment: Just a short fluff where Kano’s snarky bottomness is showing lol
“You should’ve asked ‘Can you kiss me?’ instead.”
Kano is dumbfounded for a few seconds before he snorts.
“Right.” he begins with a playful grin “Let me fix that. Can you, Kido Tsubomi, the fierce leader of Mekakushi Dan, my girlfriend, my sun, my stars, the love of my life, the love of my thousands other lives, do me an absolute honor and light up my da-“
He didn’t even manage to finish before he felt the pair of soft lips landed on his, catching his words.
New chapter
Comment: Won’t say much about it because it’s supposed to be a gift for certain someone~ But here’s a little sneak peek 👀
That was weird. They never really talked about having any pets. They talked about having kids (as much as stating that they want to make a family together during several separate occasions counts), but the topic of having pets was never brought up and in a timespan of living together and even moreso of living alone together, they already had plenty of opportunities to get one. And yet Kano always knew that when Kido pictured their future family together there was also present a small ball of fur waving its tail and he could see it in her eyes at that moment more visibly than ever.
GrimReaper!Kido x Vampire!Kano
Comment: I was very disappointed with the knkd fanwork of that one Halloween art, so I decided to write something that would satisfy me (with no success so far rip).
The black figure that merged with the ubiquitous dark hanged up the big scythe they were holding on the wall, among the collection of similar but different in sizes scythes, proceeded to take off their shoes (but then put them quickly back on, changing their mind as soon as their feet met with the concrete) and pulled off the black hood of their cloak to reveal the long green hair, something that finally stood out in the darkness, before walking deeper into the room.
I can’t wait to fall in love with you
Comment: Inspired by well, that one sentence that is in the title and lowkey (?) by Meli’s lovely fic~ It’s the kind of fic that I myself call “(not) soulmates au”. It revolves around the idea that after so many timelines of falling in love with each other, they’re just bound to fall in love again... Even when they don’t remember their past lives...
“Oh man, I can’t wait to fall in love with you.” Kido turned her gaze towards the blond lying next to her on the couch. Her widened from being taken aback by his statement eyes met his golden, cat-like ones, tinted with the strange warm spark that she could feel she had yearn for a very long time. It lasted only a second though because soon her brows furrowed and her gaze dropped from those well-too-familiar (given the circumstances) eyes to her hands.
Two cats
Comment: Set in the sort of the au where they never died? On one winter day Kano takes stray cat to his house to take care of. It’s solely Kano fic btw.
Forgetting for a moment about his own advice (why he should had kept repeating it in his head) he looked over his shoulder to see if his stalker was still there and in that moment their gazes lock. “Crap.” He couldn’t help but think ‘curiosity killed the cat’ as a pair of similar eyes to his stared back at him.
hbd kido
Comment: Product of my procrastination. (As you may tell, I have a problem with it). One year I was slightly~ more productive and was kinda disappointed that I didn’t manage to write Christmas fic. So then I thought that I could save some time and write this fic where Kido has joint Birthday-NewYear party with Christmas decorations still lying around (including mistletoe *cough cough*) just in time for KidoKano Day killing not two, but even four birds with one stone. It’s sort of high school au btw.
“Hi.” The boy tried again. His face was embellished with wide grin and slightly flashed cheeks and in his hand she noticed a can of beer. Oh no.
“Hi, Kano.” She said with disinclination. It wasn’t like she didn’t like the guy. Even more, in the normal situation, like average day in the school, she would find a conversation with him a nice or refreshing thing. He was one of a few people that actually knew about her existence and despite her previous prejudice he turned out to be a pretty nice guy.
Christmas Event
Comment: I’m not sure what Christmas event that was for lol.
For Kano it was this time of a year when his Mother would stay home the whole day instead of going to work and she would be more kind to him. Though he wouldn’t call it exactly this way (it’s not like he felt she wasn’t kind to him normally after all), but she was definitely more forgiving.
Affectionate meme Requests
Comment: Requested for the writing meme in the year 2016. Keeps it as a reminder of how big loser I am (?) (just what this post manages to do so far lol) The prompt was “love bite” >.>
From her spot she couldn’t see him quite clear, due to the still turned off lights, so it was only up to her imagination to decide whether he recollected his mask or not. Maybe it was the second after all, because excluding two golden eyes that shone at her there were two bright spots that stood out in the dark, both marked on his skin.
M!KidoKano
Comment: It was supposed to be male!Kido x Kano fic and yeah... I’m emberassed about it tbh. Like, by the fact I wanted to write it itself. Idk now I find it rather weird to genderbend only one person from the pairing, especially in the fic and for that reason I won’t share fragment from it. Sadly it’s one of my better written pieces lol and going back to it I see I made male!Kido no differnt from the regular Kido... which makes it a good genderbend I guess, but also completely unnecessary.
Angsty Kano fic
Comment: I have no idea lol There’s almost nothing written there.
Even Greater Fear
Comment: Despite what title may suggest it’s more fluffy than angsty. KanoKido family fluff where Kano gets anxious about how happy he is now and that he might someday lose it too. Featuring my knkd fankids, Naoki and Reika.   
“Mom, dad is sad!” announced Reika with reproach. This she wasn’t expecting.
“What?” Tsubomi asked out of surprise and was followed by a low groan coming from behind the couch that could belong only to her beloved husband.  
“No, I’m not.”  She watched how the expressions of her children slowly changed from the ones of concern to the ones of disappointment and disgust.
“And he’s denying it.”
Inverted
Comment: Silly engagement scenario. If I ever finish that, it'll be my comedic genius’ peak I swear (?)  
He was clearly getting more nervous, the longer the searching wasn’t bringing any results. He let go of Kido’s hand and got his another one to help him search for whatever was supposed to be in that pocket. However, after a while his movements completely stopped and with some kind of dread in the eyes he whispered under his breath, “It’s gone.”
Time
Comment: Angsty setomary fic I wanted to write for SetoMary Spring (anyone remember that?) 
When she moved out to her new family the first thing she noticed was that time has significantly slowed down. Oddly, somehow it did accelerate at the same time. It was hard to explain and she herself couldn’t understand the feeling nor did she give it much consideration, but for the first period of living in that new world, new pace of that very activity- living- has struck her.
One in a million
Comment: An actual soulmates au (with the variation of the red thread concept). It’s way too ambitious for me lol (starting with the fact that it’s supposed to be multi-chapter story). I won’t share a fragment of it bc not much’s written and bc tbh there would be spoilers, in case I ever do post it. I could write about the concept in a seperate post though because I did a lot of world-building for it. (A lot for me, ok?)
Clear and present
Comment: Ghost AU. Baby Kano hides one time in the abandoned, partly burned mantion and that’s where he meets the ghost of (scary) green-haired teenage girl he befriends. Somehow got inspired by that anthology comic? Also I would listen to this song while attempting to write it lol. Not much was written though.
What I didn’t
Comment: This one’s rare. My only attempt at writing harutaka fanfic. (Funnily enough last safe was on kidokano day?... many years ago.)  In the manga Takane was pretty excited to give Haruka a present for his birthday, but he had an attack and was hospitalized so she didn’t and it wasn’t said (?) if she ever gave it to him later. So my idea for this fic was that she didn’t and how she was now trying to give it to him after three years. Took huge inspiration from this song: {x}
She didn’t have to wait long until there were heard slow, but at the same time hurried footsteps behind the door and soon it was followed by the sound of doors being unlocked. The doors before her opened revealing the light-brown-haired boy wearing excited smile and slightly oversized green sweater with embroidered reindeer. And one of these was just the warmest thing in this cold winter world.
Sneeze like a kitten
Comment: Inspired by one line from Gravity Falls lol It was just another thing I wanted to add to list of similarities between Kano and cats and I’m sure it would bring Kido joy too ;3 But as much as I still find this idea cute it is so awkwardly written lol. I kinda appreciate that it’s from Rin’s POV and that I tried using kinda fancier English for that reason (as fancy as I knew back then lol), but I guess first person fics will always sound weird. It’s set in a different route I guess where they sort of met before the orphanage.
Soon I noticed all her glances seemed to be directed at small boy with blond hair sitting alone on the bench, a little away from the playground. At first I was fairly surprised, not understanding why this particular boy had become her spot of interest, but giving more attentive look at the boy made me instantly realize reasons of her intent glances.
Connection
Comment: I have almost nothing written there and I barely remember it, but from what I can see it must be my original idea for the “formal event” prompt from the very first kanokido week. I... think it was sort of an au where they never died and they met at some sort of fancy party held by Kido’s parents where Kano was a waiter.
Oof that’s all (I mean all from the folder on my pc, but I won’t be getting into that). For a fair portion of it, I gotta objectively say there’s absolutely zero chance of me ever finishing them, but then (aside from the freshest ones that I still have on my mind) revisiting all those WIPs made me really want to revive some of them owo (some I would have to completely re-write tho OTL)
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Agony
Summary: I have lived thousands of timelines. I have been the cause of the distress and pain and misery. I have been the one ending each timeline. I laugh and dance and laugh and dance when the world ends and repeats- but two souls cry soundlessly inside me.
Rating: PG- 13
Warning: Graphic Depictions Of Violence
Notes:  I'm not even sorry. I dedicate this piece of garbage to @ranichi17 who tends to shower me with Haruka angst. I hope you like this. You can join us at Kagepro Discord server where we praise The Purity and The Holy and The Brightness in the world. which is Kokonose Haruka.
AO3
I.
Konoha wails.
Being the pathetic little kid he is, he just pulls his legs to his chest and covers his ears. I laugh. I laugh and crash his friends' skull and make them scream. The blood, the pain, the tears, I love every second of crashing their dreams and lives.
The first breaking point is when I kill the ghost. I pull her purple hair and She –and Konoha – scream loudly in my ears. I can only laugh at how easy it is to break these pitiful creatures.
"Stop, she's my friend!"
Friend? As if it can be possible. I crash the ghost's head to prove a point to him. Konoha cries helplessly and covers his eyes. I laugh and laugh when I hear the thief and the deceiver cry in agony.
"Kido!"
The ghost has a name, has a family. But no more. None of this can stop me from killing her over and over again, and making the queen reset the time. What’s the importance of their lives and the pitiful details they put in every time? None of them matters when I kill them. Nothing can save them.
Next is the little boy that Konoha feels a strong connection with. I recall his memories, being trapped in daze and watching him die over and over again. Konoha's breath stutters.
"No, no please… please not him…."
How should I kill him then? Throw him in front of a truck and see the familiar terror in their eyes? choke him to death? Stomp over him? Shoot him? Which will cause more pain? I move to grab him throat when the deceiver throws himself in front of me.
So the little mouse is going bold again, huh.
Not anymore.
"Please," Konoha whimpers and begs, and I feel the familiar rush of excitement when I put the gun over the deceiver's head and smile at him. The queen is shocked; I can see it into her eyes. she hasn't started crying yet.
"what would you do to save them?" I ask, looking at queen but also asking it from Konoha. Both of them let out a frightened sob.
"Please!"
"I'll do anything!"
I pull the trigger and laugh and laugh when they both fall on their knees.
II.
Haruka shouts.
He's a fighter, I'm surprised. How he can even scream in my head is a mystery to me. I like it. I like strong people. Breaking them is more fun, and I let the laughter bubble inside my throat.
"don't you dare touch her, don't you dare!"
He pushes and fights. He's trying to regain control over my body- Konoha's body, his body.
I look at the unconscious girl, the subject of Haruka's distress. There are lots of wires around her head and body, trapping her in virtual life. I gently touch her cheek and Haruka starts shouting again.
Oh, how I love the waver in their voices while I'm crushing their hopes and dreams.
I pull the wires and the girl's eyes snap open immediately, her eyes are frightened and her heart is beating like a frightened animal.
"Takane… Takane!"
Haruka keeps pushing and screaming her name, and I wonder what can break him, what can push him to the edge so he can't move from sorrow and pain.
"who are you?" The girl asks with badly hidden shaky voice. She tries to act confident and powerful when she can't even register where she is- her eyes keep darting around the place and me, and the gun I have in my hand.
"Takane… run!"
I can see it in her eyes. the fear, the dread, the slow registration.
"Ko-…. Kono-…"
I smile.
Haruka is panting, I can feel the fear and anticipation running in his body. My smile only grows. I lean over her and murmur in her ear,
"Haruka said hi."
Her eyes widen as I pull the trigger and laugh. The girl looks drop dead cold on the bed and blood colors the white sheets.
Haruka's screams are the most delicious sound I've ever heard.
III.
Haruka and Konoha scream together.
I'm standing in front of the neet boy, unable to move an inch.
"Don't do this, please-"
"You won't kill him, I swear-"
My whole body is pushed backward when they both scream in unison,
"he's my friend!"
Sweat gathers around my temples as I try to fight these idiots. Idiot, stubborn, pitiful humans. Will they ever learn? Will they ever stop trying and fighting the power running their lives?
Maybe that's why I like crushing them, revealing the harsh truth that nothing is stable. The only thing that keeps repeating in their lives, is the snakes and the queen gathering them. I am the one in power. I am playing with them.
I look at the neet again, who's looking at me with concerned eyes. he's standing in front of the others- the ghost, the attracter, the queen. Their eyes are full of concern and fear. I hate it. I hate it. Are they pitying me? They're the pitiful ones, especially the neet- the one who's entire existence is bound to one person, one girl, the one who's mocking me by staying in the daze.
I won't let them ever mock me.
I clutch my chest and try to control the screaming sounds resonating in my head.
"Not him, not Shintaro-"
"I won't let you-"
I let a smile emerge. The neet's eyes widen, and I know that my smile has frightened him. oh, if you only knew what I'm about to do. I will kill everyone. I will shower in their blood and dance over their corpse- I will torture the neet only to prove a point to the sounds in my head. To prove that I'm the one in control.
"You won't!"
They scream simultaneously and suddenly my body is moving on his own. We are all in control at the same time- we try to move and take control but to no effort.
We put the gun over our head, and smile a teary one. The neet is scared, not knowing what is happening.
"Shintaro-kun… Please take care of the others for me."
The neet takes a deep breath, his eyes going wide from surprise as we pull the trigger and the world goes dark.
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fuckyeahkagepro · 6 years ago
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Kagepro: Timeframe Mentions
Kagerou Project References ->
Specific / Important Timeframe Mentions
Routes reminder:
Music [Songs/Videos] (+extra) -> Manga [+Manga Route 2] -> Novels ->? MCA?
MCA: “closest to the latter” - Jin
PLEASE NOTE: EVENTS MAY DIFFER BETWEEN EVERY ROUTE.
(Please Note: This is an OLD post gathering notes on the various canon timelines and including some of my own theories. For the most part, the information hasn’t changed too much upon me making this post, but I’ve included a ‘read more’ for easier browsing.)
Original commentary under the ‘read more’!
“ 2 years ago ”
Ayano [as Japanese 10th grader] initially ‘dies’ / enters the Daze.
Does not happen in Manga Route 2
Instead, the Mekakushi Trio kick her out due to disagreeing with her later revealed motives.
Has not yet had her birthday (Nov 22nd) due to dying August 15th. Chronologically would be 15 years old at death.
Shintaro is in the same school year as her, however, he’s already had his birthday [April 30; Japanese school year begins April 1st] so he would be the older one. He’s still in the same school year as her, which contains the ages of 15~16.
(Ayano would chronologically be closer to 15 when she initially ‘dies’; Shintaro already 16. They’re still close in age.)
Haruka [11th grade] initially ‘dies’.
Konoha is ‘born’ as a separate being. has an ‘immortal body’
Haruka remains trapped in the Daze.
Has not yet had his birthday (December 24) due to dying August 15th. Chronologically between 16 and 17 years old, but still has some 4-5 months left until his birthday, compared to Ayano and Hibiya (both November / earlier).
Konoha: appears created within the Daze.
Likely August 15th.
Unknown if he “chooses” a birthday like Mary does.
As of most major Routes / timelines, does not appear to reach December 24th, much less October.
Takane [11th grade; same as Haruka] initially ‘dies’.
Becomes Ene. ‘immortal spirit’
same personality / memories (for the most part)
Momo is in Junior high school [as an 8th grader.]
Momo met Haruka, Takane, and Ayano [Novels Route] while she’s still a Junior high schooler. [Over the Dimension; Novel 6]
Kano, Kido, and Seto are a grade below Ayano & Shintaro, all three being in the 9th grade
Ayano and Shintaro were in 10th.
Haruka and Takane were in 11th.
“second year of high school”
Kano, Kido, and Seto were in 9th.
all one grade above Momo.
Momo was in 8th. [Junior High school] (bonus):
“ When I got to eighth grade, I didn’t enjoy being in the club anymore, so I decided to quit and spent my time after school aimlessly shopping around town. It was around that time that the number of agencies who scouted me started increasing. I refused them at first, but when the agency that I’m currently working under contacted me, my mom’s work wasn’t going well at the time, so I took up the offer to help a little with the living expenses. ” [Kisaragi Attention; Novels Route - Momo]
Sometime in the future of “ 2 years ago ”, but before present day
Manga Route 2 particularly / notably; various other Routes as well: Ene enters Shintaro’s computer.
Momo is still in Junior high school.
Ene befriends Shintaro and later, Momo. [Manga Route 2]
Ene picks out Momo’s “aun” phrasing pink hoodie.  [Manga Route 2]
The Mekakushi Trio “leave the Tateyama household”
This occurs in pretty much every major Route.
However, it is much more notable during Manga Route 2.
Spring of the present year: Momo enters high school.
Going chronologically, it’s only possible for Momo to be 15 at the start of the series. [conflicting age] “ ——I had just enrolled at this school this spring.” - Momo, Kisaragi Attention chapter [Novels Route]
This is when Momo would have her 15th birthday
February 14th - Momo’s birthday.
“ the year before last year ” - Momo’s high school is remodeled. “ The year before last year, the four-story school was rebuilt and designed in a western style; a uselessly fashionable building.” - Momo, Kisaragi Attention chapter [Novels Route] (i.e. Momo is clarifying she enrolled in the spring, while “the year before last year”, the same school was remodeled before she entered it.)
(about) “ 5 years ago ”
Momo (primary schooler) drowns at the beach, her and Shintaro’s father being the price for her resurrection / initially ‘dies’. “  Strangely enough, no matter what I do, I attract the “eyes” of people around me. ” “ In my later years of elementary school, something I drew just happened to catch the attention of a well-known author. It became the cover of one of their novels, and on top of that, the novel became a huge hit. ” [^ both quotes, Momo, Kisaragi Attention (Novels Route) ]
Around this time, Momo’s snake also leaves Azami (confirmed by Azami herself; later theorized by Shintaro + Ayano while Hibiya is also present, after Hibiya’s seen Azami’s memories.) Shintaro is aware of what’s happening to Momo during elementary. [^ confirmed via Manga Route 2]
“ 10 years ago ”
The Dan’s estimate of when all of these events began [Novels] as well as for how long the timelines have been repeating.
Take note: the Dan might be wrong / might not have all info.
A “monster” speaks to Kano [Yobanashi Deceive pv] [Music Route]
in Novels Route, this “monster” is Clearing Eyes.
Kano confirms later on he won’t listen to Saeru anymore. [^ Novels Route]
Kano also confirms Kenjirou maybe doesn’t remember anything that happens to him while possessed. (as far as he knows) [^ Novels Route]
“ from the very start ”
Manga Route 2: Saeru [Clearing Eyes] possesses Hibiya.
Ayano asked when the snake entered Hibiya’s body
“[ from the very start ].”
“long before” he killed Kido and before Hibiya met Ayano.
“ some hundreds of times ” [ “some hundreds” ]
The speaker of “Imaginary Reload” (presumed Mary) mentions this has repeated some “hundreds of times” now.
“ until October 7, 2200 ″
Sign seen during MCA Route [only].
“Construction of a pedestrian bridge is currently taking place until October 7, 2200″.
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Obon / Bon Festival
Mentioned by Kenjirou to Momo in Novels [Kisaragi Attention].
The festival of Obon lasts for three days; however its starting date varies within different regions of Japan. When the lunar calendar was changed to the Gregorian calendar at the beginning of the Meiji era, the localities in Japan reacted differently and this resulted in three different times of Obon. "Shichigatsu Bon" ("Bon in July") is based on the solar calendar and is celebrated around 15 July in eastern Japan (Kantō region such as Tokyo, Yokohama and the Tōhoku region), coinciding with Chūgen. "Hachigatsu Bon" (Bon in August) is based on the lunar calendar, is celebrated around the 15th of August and is the most commonly celebrated time. "Kyū Bon" (Old Bon) is celebrated on the 15th day of the seventh month of the lunar calendar, and so differs each year. "Kyū Bon" is celebrated in areas like the northern part of the Kantō region, Chūgoku region, Shikoku, and the Okinawa Prefecture. These three days are not listed as public holidays but it is customary that people are given leave.
Mentioned by Hiyori Asahina in Novels Route [Kagerou Daze I]: "Heh, the truth is, my brother-in-law [Kenjirou] is her [Momo]'s school teacher. An idol as a student, like, seriously! A moment ago he called me and said, 'I'll help you get her signature, why don't you come here and have fun during the Obon?' Sooo, I was planning to go there as a trip, but my parents went mad, saying 'you don't even bother to study well, but you're still playing tricks like this~', things like that."
Obon -> (through to?) “ next week ” (mentioned above):
“Took a lot out of you, huh. Anyway, there’s going to be a [school test] retake next week so…… Try as hard as you can.” - Kenjirou to Momo, Kisaragi Attention Chapter (cont. below):
Kenjirou: “Well, take it easy. I’m sure that you’re still not used to this school yet, and don’t you have a concert next week?”    Momo: “Ah……! Yes…… I do……”    ( ..... )    Kenjirou: “Well, don’t push yourself too hard…… Anyway, you should get going now. Didn’t you say you had a filming for a drama today or something?”   Momo: “Yes… Ah, wait! Class is going to start! I still have time!”    Kenjirou: “It’s written here in the schedule for supplementary lessons, isn’t it? Since it’s Obon, 10th graders only go to first period today. You have the next three days off. Why don’t look at the schedule for once…”   Momo:  “Ehhh?! Ah, you’re right……”    Looking at the schedule he took out, there really was only one lesson today.    Don’t tell me he found out that I’ve attending my supplementary classes without looking at the schedule like this……   Momo:  “Err…… Well, I’ll see you in three days!”    Kenjirou: “Yeah. It would be bad if you didn’t take a break on Obon. Well, I’m going home, so be careful on your way back.”    Momo: “I’ll be fine! I’ll take my leave for today!”
‘ Otsukimi ’ / Tsukimi (Moon Viewing)
[see: Otsukimi Recital ; mention of “viewing the moon” in “My Funny Weekend” (Mekakucity Reload)]
Tsukimi (月見) or Otsukimi (お月見), literally moon-viewing, also known as Jugoya (十五夜), are Japanese festivals honoring the autumn moon, a variant of the Mid-Autumn Festival. The celebration of the full moon typically takes place on the 15th day of the eighth month of the traditional Japanese calendar; the waxing moon is celebrated on the 13th day of the ninth month. These days normally fall in September and October of the modern solar calendar. The tradition dates to the Heian era, and is now so popular in Japan that some people repeat the activities for several evenings following the appearance of the full moon during the eighth lunisolar month. Date: September or October
“ decades ”
“ This cycle has repeated for decades. I’d realized that a long time ago. ” - Hibiya Amamiya, “Kagerou Daze” songs’ lyrics [Music Route]
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“ over ten years ”
“I’ve been stuck in this tiny village for over 10 years.” - Hibiya Amamiya, Kagerou Daze I [The Children Reason] [^ Novels Route] [Note: Hibiya is given an official age of 12 in MCA.] [Hibiya would age to 13 by end of MCA (before everyone else).] [Hiyori was given the exact same age, despite being about 4 months apart from Hibiya. Hiyori’s age is more likely to be conflicting due to her birthday being March, placing her on the younger end of a Japanese school year.] [It is unknown if Jin did this for some intentional reason, but their ages, unlike Momo’s, don’t conflict nearly as much with the rest of the casts’. Again, may be for intentional reason.]
"and my short, 10+ years of life will be a lackluster thing that I won't be able to remember, too." - Hibiya Amamiya, Kagerou Daze I [The Children Reason] [^ Novels Route]
August 18th -> “three days have passed” [since then] [Manga Route 2]
“ The scene changed to Kano in front of the TV, hearing news about the incident. Apparently, three days have passed since then. ”
Extended info from “Kisaragi Attention” chapter and etc. continued! [ *this post may be updated as needed ] [ *bolded and italics in this post are my emphasis]
  “I’ve got time to spare, huh…… Hm?”    When I looked at my watch, it still showed as 8:15 A.M. I was taken aback for a second, but then I remembered that it had stopped this morning. It was my favorite watch that Mom bought for me last year as a birthday present. Its life was too short. I don’t remember handling it too roughly as to quicken its death, so it’s probably just a dead battery. When I get home, I’ll have my stupid brother look at it.    I took out my touch screen phone that had a gaudy pink case. Even though I had a cell phone, I only really used it for work-related things.    If I used it to talk about a favorite T.V. show or about love with a close friend every night, I’d probably be a professional with this device. But when it comes to T.V. shows, I only really watch historical dramas, and I don’t even have a friend to talk to about that, let alone love……    Although I could more or less grasp the reason for that, it wasn’t really a bad thing. It’s just that each time my phone is in my hand, I find myself hit with an unexplainable feeling of emptiness. That’s why I didn’t like this device.    “9:30, huh…… The filming is at 2, so I have to be home by 1……”    I tapped the screen of my phone and opened my planner, and the tumultuous business schedule was displayed. Under August 14 was the filming for the drama at 2, a live performance on a radio talk show at 6, and then rehearsal for a concert, all closely written together.    Today, my manager is supposed to come pick me up at my house at 1 o’clock.    Even though I’ve gotten used to it, my extremely packed schedule recently made me really depressed. The latest concert had gotten everyone talking about me again, and the subsequent deluge of job offers was making a huge change in my lifestyle. It looks like next week’s concert that’s supposed to commemorate my single which released today is going to be a one-man show, despite it being so soon after my CD’s release.
   While I am happy about it, I’ve got nothing but bad memories about the song.    The main reason is that on the day of the recording, my manager got extremely mad at me because I had gotten a bad cold and couldn’t help but sing in a nasally voice. But the producer loved it and said that it “very well represented the dilemma an adolescent girl would go through facing an unrequited love,” and ended up being on the CD.    At the time, I didn’t feel like it actually happened due to my fever, but sometime later on, my nasally song started to drift into the town, and my meal sizes got halved. For the time being, things were fine since it was still summer break* [*of the previous year], but as I thought about how in the world I would face the people at school next semester, I grew even more depressed.    I felt the energy leave my body with a sigh. The suffocating heat didn’t help, either.    I had been breaking in and out of a busy sweat, but I could slowly feel my forehead starting to sweat again.    “I guess I should go home……”    There was no point in staying here. I put my phone away in my pocket and stood up from my seat.    I felt a slight cooling sensation as I freed my leg that stuck to the chair and tried to look far off into the distance. On the other side of the school you could hear various shouts and cheering echoing on the grounds.    Those voices, which could probably be called “youth,” felt somehow distant from me, and for some reason, made me feel like I was being rushed.    As I began to walk and sighed for the umpteenth time, I found a flyer placed on the table that the schoolgirls were sitting earlier.    It looked like a flyer that came from a new knick-knack shop in front of a train station with characters cluttered together in colorful, round lettering.    The giant “August 13th and 14th” seemed to be jumping out from the paper, which meant that the event was yesterday and today* [*August 14th].    After looking around carefully, I picked up the flyer.    And at that moment, I couldn’t believe my own eyes.
   “……!!!”
   In all honesty, I had no interest in a knick-knack shop like this, but this one thing at the very, very bottom, which was probably only there to fill up space on the flyer, was an unbelievably cute charm listed as a “Benisake-chan Strap.”    Since the picture was rather small, I could only get the gist of what it looked like, but just by the silhouette of the legs that were clearly in a place where legs shouldn’t be, I could tell that it held exceptional talent.    I swallowed the drool that was pooling in my mouth, and anxiously checked my surroundings again.    If you looked at the flyer, you could clearly see “Limited time offer!” written, although it wasn’t very clear what the offer was for.
   I stood there for a second and stuffed the flyer in my bag.
   With my hand on my hip, I drank what was left in my bottle, threw it in the trash can, and quickly left the school. ——
- Momo Kisaragi, Kisaragi Attention chapter “  9:10 A.M., August 14. ” - earlier on;  Momo Kisaragi, Kisaragi Attention chapter
Japanese school system chart, again, for your reference.
Note anyone born between January 1 - April 1 are on the younger end of their years’ class. Kido - January 02nd Momo - February 14th Hiyori - March 3rd Seto - March 28th Shintaro - April 30th Kano - May 10th [series begins: August 14 - 15, exact day varies between different Routes] besides them: Mary - July 21 [”age” 17 at present day chosen by her] Kenjirou - September 11th Hibiya - November 4th Ayano - November 22nd *did not reach her birthday Haruka - December 24th. *did not reach his birthday Takane / Ene - unknown; same grade as Haruka [*dies in her 2nd year of high school - 11th grade, as seen below] [*Takane may not have reached her birthday as well.]
present day: - Shintaro is 18 on August 14-15. - Shintaro’s birthday is April 30th, making him closer to 18. - post-series, Ayano would age to 18, following Hibiya aging first. Everyone born December of present day through to April 30th of next year would not age until after Ayano.
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sometime between ““timeframe”” of “2 years ago” [Ayano’s, Takane’s, and Haruka’s deaths] -> present (timeframe wise, not Routes wise!): re: Takane dying in her second year of high school [“2 years ago”]: [*this also includes Haruka initially dying during the exact same grade.] “ When she was in her second year of high school, she lost her life when someone administered her with a drug, entering the Kagerou Daze. She is then possessed by the snake with the “Eye Opening” power, gaining an immortal spirit. ” - “Ene’s ” Introduction (2013) (Kagerou Daze Booklet; from Mekakucity Records album release) This was all also confirmed via novel 2. “  In his second year of high school, he suffers a sudden stroke and loses his life, entering into the Kagerou Daze. He is possessed by the snake of the "Awakening Eyes" ability, acquiring the ability to remake his body into one that he finds to be his "ideal." However, this put a large strain on his mind, causing [Konoha]* to lose part of his memory. ” -  Haruka’s Introduction (2013) (Kagerou Daze Booklet; from Mekakucity Records album release) * confirmed / clarified since then that Konoha is moving his body as if on auto-pilot, while Haruka watches from the Daze. Haruka is not able to see what happens to Hibiya & Hiyori / “the outside world” after Konoha is born. Takane in MCA even comments Konoha is like a completely different person. Also, in Novels Route: - when Haruka is 10 years old, Haruka’s father tells him he has “about six years left to live”. - confirmed via Novel 2 re: Momo’s drowning, about “5 years ago”: “ When she was in elementary school (lower grades), she visited the beach with her father where she got caught by the waves and drowned to death. She comes into contact with the Kagerou Daze and is possessed by the snake with the "Eye Captivating" ability, thus acquiring the power to draw an abnormal amount of attention to her personality, body, and senses. ” - Momo’s Introduction (2013) (Kagerou Daze Booklet; from Mekakucity Records album release) re: Hibiya & Hiyori ..... After being told that she wants to go to summer school to prepare for the middle school entrance exams, he is half-forced into staying for a summer in the city by Hiyori, who he has (unrequited) feelings for. They visit Hiyori's sister Ayaka's home, but because Hiyori falls for a boy they meet there, Konoha, he's hit by intense feelings of jealousy. In the middle of it he gets involved in a traffic accident while shopping with Hiyori and comes into contact with the Kagerou Daze. He is possessed by the snake of the "Eye Focusing"* abilities, and acquires the power to perceive objects and details that are far away from an aerial (bird's eye) view. - Hibiya's Introductions (2013) (Kagerou Daze Booklet; from Mekakucity Records album release) * Obviously (as you can see from this post), this happens very differently in Manga Route 2 and may also be different in future Routes. Of particular note is that as early as of 2013 planning for the series, HIYORI wanted to prepare for the middle school entrance exams. [MCA Route: Hibiya makes up the excuse to his parents of taking special classes for the summer.] + sometime between ““timeframe”” of “2 years ago” [Ayano’s, Takane’s, and Haruka’s deaths] -> present (timeframe wise, not Routes wise!): re: SHINTARO’S INITIAL DEATH [MUSIC ROUTE SPECIFIC:]
08.15. - 2 1. C (Clearing): Kills Takane and Haruka. Brings the ‘Snake of Opening Eyes’ and ‘Snake of Awakening Eyes’ to the real world 1. O (other; paralleled timelines / occuring at the same times): Takane and Haruka dies. Interferes the Kagerou Daze, receives snakes, and revives -Music : Headphone Actor- 2. Ayano commits suicide. Enters the Kagrou Daze and receives the ‘Snake of Favoring Eyes’ -Music : Transparent Answer- 3. S (Shintaro): Shuts himself in his room since Ayano’s suicide 3. D (Dan): Kido, Seto, and Kano leaves the Tateyama household and creates a                     hideout 4. M (Mary): Leaves the house in the forest and joins the Mekakushi Dan 5. S: Ene appears in his (Shintaro’s) PC - Music : Artificial Enemy & Ene’s Cyber Journey- ->... 08.14.00 1. Momo joins the Mekakushi Dan -Music : Kisaragi Attention- -Music : Mekakushi Code- 08.15.00 1. C: Forms in Konoha’s body 1. O: Kenjiro dies from losing the snake 2. S: Kills Ene, and commits suicide 2. D: Ene gets deleted by Shintaro -Music : Konoha’s State of the World & Kagerou Daze-  [^ REMINDER: ALL OF THIS IS MUSIC ROUTE SPECIFIC / ROUTE XX.] “  At 18 years old, he kills Ene. Immediately after, he kills himself by slitting his throat with a pair of scissors. He comes into contact with the Kagerou Daze at this time, but details are unknown. ” - Shintaro’s Introduction (2013) (Kagerou Daze Booklet; from Mekakucity Records album release)
re: Momo’s conflicting age: “  She seems about my age. Maybe a year or two older, at most ” - Momo about Kido [Kisaragi Attention; Novels Route] [Reminder: Chronologically, Momo can only be 15, despite the “script” “error”. Kido can only be 16. “maybe” “a year or two older”] “  The “overly-cheerful” person sitting beside her waved at me with a grin on his face. Although he had a mature air about him, once I looked closer, I noticed that he also seemed pretty close to my age. ” - Momo about Kano [Kisaragi Attention; Novels Route] (right around after the part referencing Kido) [ Reminder: ]
re: all other conflicting ages:
- KANO’S AGE IS CORRECTED TO “17″ IN SIDU’S 2015 ARTBOOK - while Kido’s remained the conflicting “17″ l-lol (she’s 16) - Momo’s “16″ was not seemingly shown in this guidebook, despite the “script”’s previous setting conflicts. - This guidebook is official, canonical information as of 2015. - Please note Kisaragi Attention chapter + MCA were circa 2014 and before. Basically, if Momo is 15, Kido is 16. <---- works for near everyone ! !!! If Momo is 16, Kido can only be 17. If Kido (Jan 02) is 17, Kano (May 10) can only be 18. We know Kano is not 18 because Shintaro is 18, Ayano 17 chronologically. We know Momo’s grades otherwise fit her age range despite the conflicting script re: exact “age” Therefore, one must assume either Momo’s or Kido’s are wrong. Kido’s being wrong does not work with Kano’s, etc.’s being corrected. [ Thanks Jin ] [ please see this tag for any other mentions of ages ]
re: Aug 14th -> Aug 15th Music Route: “  On August 15th, 12:30 in the afternoon, The weather was incredibly nice And amidst the sickening rays of the dazzling sun I spoke with you, for I had nothing else to do ” “  I woke up upon my bed to the sound of a ticking clock What time is it now? On August 14th, sometime past 12 in the morning I recalled the sound of an awfully annoying cricket But, y’know, it’s a little strange. Yesterday, in a dream, I saw us walking in this same exact park ” “ Suddenly, I pushed you aside and jumped into the street; At that moment, the truck slammed into me " “If that praiseful heat haze laughed, “Serves you right!” again Then this would be what you’d call a normal summer day. But all of that ended today. On August 14th, a girl awoke upon her bed And she said, "I failed this time, too..." as she cradled a single cat. ” - ^ Kagerou Daze lyrics [Music Route], Hibiya’s POV
Manga Route 2:
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^ Aug 14th, 12:32 Shinaro wakes up just before Hibiya?/Hiyori?’s later deaths [reminder, above: in Music Route, 12:30 PM in the AFTERNOON ]
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^ Hibiya?/Hiyori? die 12 hours earlier; at midnight in the AM, Aug. 15th Manga Route translation confirms this early part of Manga Route 2: 08.14.00 1. S: Shintaro wakes up, goes to buy food for his rabbit with Ene and Momo 2. S (Shintaro): Meets Hiyori and Hibiya 08.15.00 1. D (Dan): Engages in solving the mystery of the ‘Kagerou Daze’ 1. O (Other / same or parallel times): Hibiya and Hiyori encounters an accident 2. O: Hiyori disappears after the accident? 3. S: Searches for Hiyori and Hibiya. Meets Kido 3. D: Konoha stops the barricade suspects at the mall 3. O: Hibiya, who was lying down on the street gets found by Konoha and Kano 4. D: Searches for Hibiya and Hiyori for Konoha 4. D: Momo meets Kano and Konoha who were carrying Hibiya. Kano                           invites Momo to the Mekakushi Dan
Music Route [extra/LTM]:
Aug 15th, 12:32 -> 12:33 relevant or not; fun fact: it was originally supposed to be 12:33 -> 12:34 [^Sidu’s concept art for LTM]
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giantchasm · 7 years ago
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Let’s Talk About Some Common Kagepro Misconceptions
Claim: Takane collapsed due to poison Why it’s false:
Although we do not know how Saeru killed Takane for real (It could be anything, overdosing or poisons included. But we have no canon info on it yet.) Actually I’ve been corrected. She was explicitly poisoned to die, but it’s likely her fall prior did not come from that. Takane’s collapse was not caused by prior poisoning from Saeru or Kenjirou. Takane suffers from a fictionalized version of Narcolepsy, one of which’s symptoms is catalepsy, which is defined as: 
Cataleptic attacks are a sudden loss of muscle control. This may be just a slight feeling of weakness, such as sagging facial muscles. The head might drop forward or worse, buckling of the knees resulting in total collapse of the person.
In severe cases, the patient can become completed paralysed, lasting for a few seconds to several minutes. During this time, the patient may seem to be unconscious, but can be fully awake and temporarily unable to move. A very frightening situation to be in. These attacks can be brought on by emotions: anger, surprise, fear or even laughter.
Note the mention of emotions. Takane was not only straining her body by running as fast as she could, but she was also under a lot of emotional pressure. She was stressed, anxious, and generally a complete mess. This led to her collapse.
Another interesting thing to note is that: Yes, this means she was likely awake and conscious during however Saeru killed her.
Claim: Haruka and Konoha are one in the same Why it’s false:
Konoha is not Haruka with amnesia, but rather his own entity. Haruka’s mind was left in the Haze, while his body was sent back out and made ‘ideal’. Since it had nothing to control it, Konoha was the... Go to response of his snake and his body. A new consciousness. An autopilot of sorts. Haruka can see everything Konoha does, but has no control over it.
This is discussed during the sixth novel, and implied in MCA.
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Kano is the cat in Kagerou Days: Why it’s (Partially) false:
This is a piece of misinfo even listed on the wiki. But there’s no reasonable way it could have happened. Kano is not the cat in Kageou Days, as there is no chronological way for him to have been in the Haze at that time.
Kano DID, however, kill Hibiya and Hiyori in the novel route, as a cat with suspiciously red eyes that gave Hibiya the creeps is described. This cat attempted to lure them near traffic, until the argument ensued, and Hiyori ran into the road.
It is likely that the cat in Kagerou Days is inspired by Kano being a factor in their deaths in some timelines. Much like how there’s fire in Kido’s haze, or medical equipment in Haruka’s. Kano, being an element in their death, is recreated to simulate their deaths over and over again. That said, this is not the actual Kano.
The woman in Shintaro’s nightmares is Ayano: Why it’s (Partially) false:
The girl in the following scenes is not Ayano, but a creature fairly unknown by the western fandom called Yakisukeru. Aka the Snake of Retaining Eyes, and Shintaro’s snake.
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The easiest way to tell Yaki and Ayano apart is that Yaki NEVER wears Ayano’s scarf. Even in other weird situations or memories Ayano typically has her iconic red scarf.
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As for why Yaki takes the appearance of Ayano: It’s likely because Ayano is such a prominent and traumatizing figure in Shintaro’s life. Yaki’s duty as a snake is different than the others. She is not made by Azami, but rather by Mary, so “No-one would ever forget this tragedy.” She acts as a vessel for Shintaro to remember past timelines, and tries time and time again for the memories to click. Ayano is the easiest way to do that, likely.
Yaki appears across MCA (And was the key to the happy ending of it), in the novels, typically on darkened pages, and in Lost Time Memory.
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izzyizumi · 4 years ago
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Digimon Adventures ~ x Kagerou Project “Otsukimi Recital” [Moon-Viewing Recital] AMV [Music (C) Jin, singer: IA / Vocaloid] (Kagepros [subbed] video for Comparing: watch here!) {Note: Not meant as a direct 1:1 Parody!} Featuring DUO/SHIP: Taichi Yagami [“Tai Kamiya”] x Koushiro(u) Izumi [“Izzy Izumi”] {KouTai} / {TaiKou} / {Taishiro(u)}
PAST AMVS / VIDEO EDITS IN THIS SERIES: Kagerou Daze (Heat-Haze Daze) / Children Record [+Adv Chosen] / RED / Additional Memory and Imaginary Reload music edits for KageDaze / Days (short edit) / Lost Time Memory / Yesterday Evening / Summertime Record / Shounen Brave [+Jou] / Outer Science [+Villains] / Headphone Actor (short edit) / DAZE (short version / TV Size OP) / KOUSHIROS ? CYBER JOURNEY [+Maki] / Brave Heart x Kaien Panzermast [+Chosen Children] / Night Tales Deceive [Yobanashi Deceive] / [KOUSHIRO’S] Imaginary World / Mekakushi Code [Blindfold Code] [+Yamato&Sora&Adv Chosen] / Ultramarine Rain [+Mrs Yoshie Izumi; Izumis] / Imagination Forest [+Mimi&Jou] / Transparent Answer [TaiKou+Meiko] / Jinzou Enemy [Artificial Enemy] / DEAD and SEEK (short edit) / Headphone Actor (Full version Preview) (+More A.M.V.s were made since this one!): Shissou Word [Never-Lost Word] [(Yamatox)Sora(xMimi)(xJou)]+[TaiKou]+[Chosen] / My Funny Weekend [Mimi+Hikari+Chosen] / Kusanagi Attention [(Ken x)Miyako(x Hikari) (xDaisuke)+Mimi+02 Chosen+Advs Chosen (+TaiKou)] / Shinigami Record (Short Edit) [(+2020!)TaiKou] / [KSHRO’s]? Theory of Happiness [Adv~Tri TaiKou + Special Appearance] / Imaginary Reload (Music Edit Ver. 2) [Adv Chosen+2020 Chosen] / Children Record Re:Boot (Music Edit) / Tomodachi no Uta [(+2020!)Mimi&Yamajourami & KouTai] Repeatverse/Extended Story Introduction: Here (*Note: extended summary contains some spoilers for the fic ) [However, it also explains the worldbuilding involved and plot setup!] Ficverse (“Route”) Version: Here! {Note: You will need an AO3 account to view the fic! Please feel free to ask me if you need an AO3 Invite!} You are currently on the “AMVs Route!” What does that {“Route”} ‘mean’? (Please consider looking into the “Fic Route” to Find Out!!...) (*It’s ok to start on/only watch this current AMV!) [*You may understand the story/implied timeline of things better if you begin from my “Kagerou Daze” AMV, though it’s also not required! “Children Record” is also recommended as a starting point/upbeat song!]
Basic Summary of This Video:
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Lyrics/Original commentary under the ‘read more’!
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A.M.V By Hikari M. Productions a.k.a @izzyizumi / @koushirouizumi
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part of my Taishiro [Taichi x Koushiro] REPEAT?_ ficverse (please note any and all notes/trigger warnings for said ficverse!!) [seriously, please note the warnings, the plot is kinda heavy] (please note any and all warnings for K@gepro’s plot too if you look into that!!) - no, it’s NOT a direct parody (but v[ERY] inspired) (if you can’t tell) - watching it in HIGH(ER) QUALITY at the original Youtube link is encouraged! - to do so, go to the original youtube link, click “HD” button, then “ 1080p ” !
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- short version of implied story/plot of this series: T I M E L O O P S - Tri ( and as of lately, um, KIZUNA [AUs?] ??? ) is here because … ah... - let’s just say it’s probably AT LEAST ONE part of the “start” of it all ah - KOUSHIRO IZUMI VOICE : ( ‘ W H Y ’ ) - DO THEY MAKE IT TO THE END - @ TAICHI & KOUSHIRO, ARE YOU SURE YOU /WANT/ TO ——-
- TBH HOW MUCH do KOUSHIRO or TAICHI even REALLY REMEMBER - MUCH LESS THE REST OF THEM - who even knows after a certain point anymore - timeloops are fun !! ! ! ( this particular AMV also explains SOME of it … )
Spoiler warnings for Tri / Kizuna / DigiAdv 2020 scenes used + Further notes/warnings & LYRICS under ‘read more’!
A.M.V. Summary: - is it TAICHI HELPING KOUSHIRO or KOUSHIRO Helping ..... - WELL YOU GET THE IDEA BY NOW IT'S LIKELY ( BOTH ) - oh Tri!Taichi is Kinda here too ( BRIEFLY ) { AS AESTHETICS } ( PLOT RELEVANT THOUGH ) ;;;; - tbh there's some too-slow scenes here I wanna Replace later if I remake this but ( wHEN WE GET MORE INTERACTIONS ) { HOPEFULLY }
LYRICS PREVIEW: (if you click the ‘lyrics’ link and ‘English translation’ tab on that Wiki, full lyrics there as well!):
" OH , WHATEVER I DO NOW , IT’S ALL P O I N T L E S S "; I SAW YOUR DISTRESSED FACE , And I knew just saying                          " DON’T GIVE UP !!! " WASN’T GOING TO                           CUT IT !!!!
FEELING BLUE IN THE SUNLIGHT , I’M GENUINELY     CONCERNED FOR YOU! YOUR EYES     GET WATERY, " I’M SURE IT’S NO USE     FOR A WEAKLING LIKE ME ..... "
FEELING BLUE IN THE EVENING , As   THE SUNLIGHT   is   LOCKED     AWAY , IN A MOMENT     YOUR FACE     LAMENTED , AND SOUNDLESS TEARS     SPILLED AND F A D E D . . . THIS TERRIBLY SMALL WORLD BARES     ITS BIG FANGS, THINKING                         " I WANTED US TO BE TOGETHER , " IT WEIGHTS DOWN ON   YOUR HEART . . .
EVEN IF MY MEAGER WORDS CAN’T GET THROUGH ANYMORE , I WANT TO GIVE YOU STRENGTH ! " - I WANT TO HELP YOU. -   PLEASE , GRANT MY { WISH } !! " " I BELIEVE               BECAUSE YOU’RE YOU !!! " SAY IT LOUD          AND MEAN IT !!! " IT’S ABSOLUTELY NOT HOPELESS !! IF YOU   { WISH }  FOR IT ,   YOU’LL  M E E T  AGAIN !! " TAKING A GREAT BIG BREATH , YOU TIMIDLY FACED     THE DISTANT  M O O N , AND SHOUTED ,          " I’LL GIVE IT A SHOT !!! " ... Did THAT   sound kinda   " COOL ? " *    "  ... I / GUESS / " !!
* TAICHI VOICE  “ SUGOI ” !!!  =  {COOL / AWESOME / AMAZING} { GIF BY ME } { PLEASE DON’T REPOST } { Thank you !!! }
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FULL LYRICS: [ VERSE 1 ] " OH , WHATEVER I DO NOW , IT’S ALL P O I N T L E S S "; I SAW YOUR DISTRESSED FACE , And I knew just saying                          " DON’T GIVE UP !!! " WASN’T GOING TO                           CUT IT !!!!FEELING BLUE IN THE SUNLIGHT , I’M GENUINELY     CONCERNED FOR YOU! YOUR EYES     GET WATERY, " I’M SURE IT’S NO USE     FOR A WEAKLING LIKE ME ..... " " THEN YOU NEED     TO KEEP YOUR SPIRITS UP , Or else   TOMORROW   WILL   DAZE     YOU TOO !! " WITH THAT ,     I TAKE YOU ALONG , PERHAPS A LITTLE     F O R C E F U L L Y ...  " FEELING BLUE IN THE EVENING , As   THE SUNLIGHT   is   LOCKED     AWAY , IN A MOMENT     YOUR FACE     LAMENTED , AND SOUNDLESS TEARS     SPILLED AND F A D E D . . . [ CHORUS 1 ] BUT I BELIEVE     BECAUSE YOU’RE YOU ! SO WHY NOT LOOK     AT WHAT’S   AHEAD ? WHEN THINGS ARE TRULY     H O P E L E S S , I’LL GIVE YOUR HEART     THE SUPPORT     ... IT NEEDS !!(?!) DON’T GIVE UP     with      " MIGHT AS WELL "s, That's a big     NO-NO !! HEY , CAN’T WE GO AHEAD     TOGETHER ?? LET’S DESTROY     ALL THESE LONESOME     FEELINGS ! [ VERSE 2 ] " I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT’S GOING ON , " ... You say as you     HOLD IN TEARS   A G A I N , SIGHING ALL THE TIME     and     SHUTTING YOUR EYES ;
YIKES , this is     DESPERATE ! [ INTERLUDE VERSE ] " IF YOU DON’T GIVE IT ALL YOU’VE GOT , YOUR MEMORIES WILL     VANISH     INTO YESTERDAY ! " So we     DASH DOWN THE STREETS , No doubt     AGAINST YOUR     WILL (?) ... [ INTERLUDE VERSE 2 ] FEELING BLUE IN THE EVENING , As   THE SUNLIGHT   is   LOCKED     AWAY , IN A MOMENT     YOUR FACE     LAMENTED , AND SOUNDLESS TEARS     SPILLED AND F A D E D ... [ CHORUS 2 ] THIS TERRIBLY SMALL WORLD BARES     ITS BIG FANGS, THINKING                              " I WANTED US TO BE TOGETHER , " IT WEIGHTS DOWN ON YOUR HEART ... EVEN IF MY MEAGER WORDS CAN’T GET THROUGH ANYMORE , I WANT TO GIVE YOU STRENGTH ! " - I WANT TO HELP YOU. - PLEASE, GRANT MY { WISH } !! " [ FINAL CHORUS ] " I BELIEVE               BECAUSE YOU’RE YOU !!! " SAY IT LOUD          AND MEAN IT !!! " IT’S ABSOLUTELY NOT HOPELESS !! IF YOU   { WISH }  FOR IT ,   YOU’LL MEET AGAIN !! " TAKING A GREAT BIG BREATH , YOU TIMIDLY FACED     THE DISTANT M O O N , AND SHOUTED ,          " I’LL GIVE IT A SHOT !!! " ... Did THAT   sound kinda   " COOL ? "    "  ... I / GUESS / " !! * SPOILERS / NOTES: this one is . Overall, Major Spoilers free but TINY scenes for: ( Bokura no Mirai ) an aesthetic shot of Taichi simply just, glaring - the background scenery kind of spoils a bit but not a Lot - ( Kokuhaku ) ending Taishiro interaction moments ( Kyousei ) not majorly spoilery Taishiro by campfire with Concerned!Taichi seeing Koushiro's face ( less spoilery Tri things ) just like an aesthetic shot of Taishiro being Silly { Saikai ; long before any battles }: ( Movie 1 near end ) TAICHI VOICE ' FOOD ' + ( from Movie 1 start ) aesthetic scenes of Tri!Taichi, at the lake Brooding + { early on from intro scenes }  Lifting His Head ( Kizuna ) ONE shot of Taichi during a battle moment but not The Battle Scenes but it technically is because all he's doing is reaching out but you can see a tiny bit of context of What's Happening to him ( DigiAdv 2020 ) Eps 01~03 scenes & Ep 14 Sad!Koushiro moments yUP ok but this one is MOSTLY scenes from pre Tri Advs + DigiAdv 2020 /For Once/
{ PROBABLY THE BIGGEST SPOILERY MOMENT }: ( Tri ) Movie 6 / Bokura no Mirai - Taichi; Not Long Before The Ending except it's not The Ending Battle Scenes ( more specifically if you've already seen these in the past AMVs, you know it ) : when he's in . ( scroll for spoiler ) . . . the Capsule . . .
DISCLAIMERS re: the original K@gepros video: - the duo is Slightly Controversial in that fandom now because we were Not Given Aged Up Designs after nearly 10 years and Yeah No Comment on original duos status bUT ;;;;; IN GENERAL... IN GENERAL... MY FAV... CHARAS - Interlude before final chorus bit gore-y - POLES - TIMELOOPS SERIES
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fuckyeahkagepro · 6 years ago
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^ Mekakucity Actors episode 04 “Construction of a pedestrian bridge is currently taking place until October 7, 2200″ “August 14th-15th must be right after a weekend because My Funny Weekend!”
Generating calenders for Kagerou Project is fun !
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fuckyeahkagepro · 6 years ago
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Kagerou Project ages
also you know what -
i seriously want to make an ages chart because tbh i am sick of ages issues
legit most of them are closer in age and also depending on timeline than not
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the gist of it I get is basically: - Momo is supposedly a “ first year in high school ” BUT has a “conflicting age” [ also in novel 1 she was taking supplementary summer courses ..... so ] (because her birthday is in February and the loops happen August 15th.) (and the Japanese school year begins in April and ends in March) (technically SHE ISN’T SUPPOSED TO HAVE HAD HER BIRTHDAY YET) (meaning closer to 15) [ her official pixiv profile states this as well, also in Japanese ] [ you can even translate it yourself ] [ though the conflicting age issue was also confirmed by others ] ( * even the anime staff has noted the “conflicting age” issue due the script? ) [ .... my theory is the loops screw up her age considering August 15th ] [ either that or supplementary classes related things and job as an Idol ] [ that’s a theory though but we’ll see if we get more info on that time period ] [ the time period of February 14th, her birthday, that is ]
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- Kido & Kano are in their second year of high school Kano is officially stated to be 17 in newer materials, too. [ also his birthday’s May 10, older than Kido ] Kido is closer to [a late ?] 16-going-on-17 her birthday is January 03, only about *seven months behind Kano. [ keep this in mind ] - Seto is in the same year as Kido & Kano. [March 28th] closest to Kido / the youngest of the Trio.
- Shintaro is 18 exactly but his birthday is April 30.
the Japanese school year begins in April and ends in March. (he’s only been 18 for about 29 days or so ... ?? [seems that way ? but....] - Ayano’s birthday is November 22. - Ayano also has the “conflicting age” issue due to her birthday. - Hibiya as of Mekakucity Talkers is old enough to be very close to junior high school as he is taking entrance exams. - note his birthday is also November 4th. ( in a they-break-out-of-the-loops scenario or canonically to Talkers ) [ he also is said to be in school again later after the entrance exams one but ... ] ( ALSO REMEMBER his birthday is November 4th. ) ( LITERALLY barely two-three months after the current August 15th ) ( HE HAS ALREADY HAD ANOTHER BIRTHDAY ) Hiyori’s birthday is March 03. the Japanese school year begins in April and ends in March
source for Japanese school system details ”Children who have their 6th birthday on or before April 1 enter the first grade of elementary school of that year.” though there are some issues with exact ages placement still the basic thing to remember is Kagepro is set IN JAPAN. Not in America do not use an American school system when trying to calculate/refer to ages also note how Japanese high school is only three years. Junior high is also only three years, putting Hibiya CLOSER to Momo than not. (Elementary is 6 years, not 5 years like in the US.)
#kagerou project#hibiya amamiya#momo kisaragi#hibimomo#kagerou daze#kagerou days#kagepro: refs#kagepro: ages#kagepro: tls#(i'm hesitating on adding harutaka due to timelines things and konoene)#(but yeah BROUGHT TO YOU BY SEEING YET ANOTHER misleading post about Hibiya's age literally PLS STOP)#(it's been said HaruTaka died 'closer to 16' too due to conflicting ages issue as well and Konoha has it too because of december 24th bday)#(chronologically he'd seem closer to 18 BUT in timelines where Konoha's body is destroyed i.e. by Saeru ? yeah)#(looks at manga Saeru too idek what's happening to Konoha's body there yet)#(but anyway THIS IS OFFICIAL INFORMATION EVEN ANIME STAFF HAS NOTED)#(it's FINE to have AUs where they're all closer in age ok EVEN HIBIYA)#(but yeah also PLEASE stop confusing others with the ages issue PLEASE STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION ABOUT THE AGES S T O P)#(ESPECIALLY if you don't even know for sure and also because Kagepro wiki ages are tbh OUTDATED)#(YES THAT IS IMPORTANT STOP TRYING TO CAUSE DISCOURSE BY USING OUTDATED INFORMATION IT'S !!! OUTDATED !!!!!)#(STAFF even had concerns re MekaTrio ages confusing fans and having them think they're not in the same school year OK)#(anyway to everyone who still confuses people over Hibiya's age even though it's been said 5000 times by now by every blog PLS RECOGNIZE)#(at the very least as of Talkers he is old enough to be taking entrance exams meaning MUCH CLOSER TO JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL AGES MAYBE EVEN 13)#(IF HE HAS AN EARLY BIRTHDAY BC NOVEMBER 4TH BIRTHDAY SO PLS NOTE)#(I say as I heavily sigh as a Hibiya fan since Wannyanpuu's KageDaze and having to deal with Discourses EVER SINCE)#(i say as I heavily sigh because of my own late October birthday that literally puts me in the same zodiac sign as Hibiya aka Scorpio)#(YEAH I had similar school system issues because of my 'early' birthday ok i'm not even kidding well to my school system anyway but still)#(also found a lot of novel 1 hints and yeah i am doubting ..... Momo's age bc she legit mentions HER WATCH STOPPED WORKING)#(at the very least KANO's is def outdated because mekatrio are confirmed same grade and he's definitely 17 THE SCANS SAY SO OK)#(the point being if you're using phrases like he's like '8' '10' etc to discredit Hibiya ships that are all FINE ages are NOT SET pls STOP)#(please stop ignoring this sobs USE IT also PUTS IT IN THE HIBIMOMO TAG TOO BC T B H I AM TIRED AND SO DONE SERIOUSLY LEAVE IT ALONE)
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