#just reinventing the gender binary

[geneticcatalyst]

every time i see people equate 'top' and 'bottom' to personality traits i have to wonder if they see gay people as real people at all or just as tropes

[andiv3r]

Sometimes I see something that reminds me that other people are using this website in a drastically different way from how I am

[sp1resong]

shoutout to people who aren't masc, fem, neutral, or any combination of the above we are out here in the fucking trenches

[bisexualsafespace]

gender binary: men, women

""inclusive"" gender binary: "non men" "non woman"

its one photo, its the same picture, it is the gender binary.

[schadenfreudich]

A post ends up being mildly popular and everytime someone likes or reblogs, I think "I have correct opinions" to myself.

[pyroshrooms]

I think genderbent characters are fine and pretty fun but so many people use it as a substitute for enjoying actual women characters and its just annoying

[some-teeth-in-a-trench-coat]

Anything that either has feathers or isn't bipedal

personally when someone says "non men" im going to assume they mean Anything that isn't a man. charger cables, glow in the dark paint, gravel, elephants, fossils, paper, EVERYTHING . "im attracted to non men" you fuck self checkout machines

[captaindibbzy]

I think it's important to let guys be gender non conforming without telling them they're a girl, cause actually misgendering people is still shit even when you are pro trans. "You're a girl, an egg waiting to crack, and that's ok" how about you are a boy and a man and it's still ok if you want to do something that doesn't align with traditional ideals of your gender. You can still be he/him¹ in a skirt and makeup.

Edits:

¹ People in the notes are correct, He/Him does not exclusively mean male. However in my defence this was a personal rant. I did not expect it to break containment quite this much so this is litterally just first draft brain dribble. I stand by the principle that gender is personal expression and not a dictation. He/Him ladies and She/Her men can do what they want with their gender. And they can also rock traditionally feminine styled fashion if they want to.

TERF's however can fuck off. This is a pro-Trans space, and this post was inspired by watching people be so pro-trans they reinvent the gender binary, which is in large part due to over enthusiastic Cis people.

Why has this post been iced?

Cause it has been going since August 2023 and I'm fucking sick of being told I'm a transphobe for saying respect the pronouns people give you even when they're wearing fucking pink eyeshadow.

[toymoder]

Trying to act normal when ppl on here are masc4masc like 👀💀 like ik what u mean but still pls google it for the sake of us old farts

[2pen2wildfire]

Really hate that the queer community's response to the creation of a gender trinary (girl, boy, and nonbinary, which is still not all-encompassing) was to... reinvent the binary. We just started grouping all genders into "masc/male-aligned" and "fem/female-aligned" and it's so fucking stupid. Even with the occasional allowance of "neutral/unaligned" it still maintains the binary as the standard. And then they don't let you use certain labels if you don't have the "right" gender alignment. The fuck.

[castrotophic]

Nonbinary jobs:

literally every job this is a weird trend

[piniatafullofblood]

sometimes I feel like some queer people just reinvented more binary norms to ascribe to. yk? like. I see conversations fairly often where someone’s like “I feel this way and I say I’m (x) gender” and then there’s a whole comment section about “that experience you described isn’t (x) gender, it’s (y) gender by definition” and like. I feel like we lost the plot

the point of creating new labels isn’t actually creating new boxes to fit people in, the *point* is to make someone more comfortable. If someone’s feels like they have multiple genders at once, but they want to call themselves nonbinary instead of bigender because that's what makes them happiest, that’s the whole point of creating new labels in the first place. At its core, the queer movement is supposed to encompass do what makes you feel good. So, do what makes you feel good.

I feel like a lot of people are acting on the ideology of queerness without actually realizing the idea in your brain that being queer is about finding self expression that fulfills you. When you don’t, it comes out hollow, and it affects your activism. Queer labels aren’t rigid barriers, and you don’t have a right to say anyone else can or cannot identify with literally anything they want. The whole point is that, to exist as a human is nonlinear and nebulous, and queerness as an ideology is based around allowing for expression of a diverse, nuanced experience.

[juney-blues]

"society treats different types of transness in different ways, when talking about structural oppression, being transmasc, transfem, or nonbinary, are not interchangeable, and in fact have a significant impact on how you are treated"

"oh so you're reinventing the gender binary? you're dividing the queer community based on agab?? is that what you're doing?"

you ignorant asshole we're not the ones doing that! that's already happened! we're just talking about how it affects us!

i'm sorry that we don't already live in a postgender utopia where all the different types of transness are interchangeable and no one is treated worse than anyone else, but we're not gonna will that into existence by just pretending it's already true!

i'm gonna go slam my head into my fucking desk

[biracy]

Obviously I can't know what's going on in anyone's head just through posts but I think it's. weird? funny? interesting? and other such adjectives how many people on here have some kind of weird baggage about just being transmasculine. Calling yourself "transneufemmasc" "because you're bigender" when that's not what those words mean or blithely using "trans lesbian" when you know fully well that everyone associates that with transfeminine lesbians or the overblown reactions to TME/TMA language as being "just asking for your casab" or "reinventing the gender binary". Like I don't feel the need to make a big show out of how TME/TMA are tantamount to bathroom genital inspections or whatever because I don't have any baggage about being transmasculine. I don't put tme in my bios because I already put transmasc there but if I did, yes, "she/him tme" almost definitely shows that I'm transmasc. And yknow what? That's literally fine. I like being trans and I like being transmasculine and it's not bad if people know that. Who knew!

[boreal-sea]

Fellow queer folks who associate with masculinity, butchness, and/or manhood at least part of the time:

We're subverting something really big: the patriarchy itself. The concepts of masculinity, manhood, and privilege. Our existence is extremely disruptive to the status quo.

That's going to cause a lot of friction. We are asking people to unlearn the entire male/female & man/woman binary of privilege. Many people are trying to force us into the way privilege works under the patriarchy and that simply doesn't work, because we don't fit into that framework. This is why people are trying to assign a hierarchy of privilege to trans people based on whether or not they "present masculine" or "present feminine", or trying to flip privilege based on sex assigned at birth to be the inverse of how things are under the patriarchy, etc. They're just reinventing the patriarchy and gender binaries though! None of that makes sense from a queer perspective, but breaking free of the mindset of the patriarchal gendered privilege hierarchy is difficult!

I know none of us signed up to be the vanguard of a social revolution, but we're in this churning ocean together, so we've got to stick with each other.

This message is for all kinds of queer folks! If you feel this is for you, then it is for you!!

[marshemillow]

Some of my own certified rent-lowering gunshots because I'm tired;

"Normal" does NOT mean "good." "Weird" does NOT mean "bad."

Things that are legal can be immoral and things that are illegal can be moral.

That being said, it's not normal or legal to harass and cyberstalk real people because they drew art of cartoon characters you don't like.

Discomfort is not harm.

"Fiction that makes me uncomfortable shouldn't have a right to exist." is a fascist opinion, even if you don't have the power to enforce that standard.

Book burning is always bad.

We need to be allowed to talk about abuse realistically, even if that includes "romanticizing" the abuser because kindness is often a core component of real abusive actions.

There's no such thing as a kink that makes someone evil by default.

Thoughtcrime isn't real.

"Women are inherently inferior to men." will never be a feminist statement no matter how much you dress it up to make it sound more like benevolent sexism.

Stop trying to reinvent the gender binary.

Stop trying to reinvent the gender binary.

Transandrophobia is real and often just as bad as transmisogyny.

Psychopaths and Narcissists can be good people, you guys are just ableist.

Innate empathy is NOT the end-all be-all of being a good person. People with high empathy can do bad things. People with low or no empathy can do good things.

Autism Levels are NOT just functioning labels with extra steps.

"Pedophilia" is a sexual attraction to prepubescent children. NOT young adults. NOT older teenagers. Every other definition is wrong.

DNIs don't work.

"Degenerate" is a nazi word. Stop using it.

Doing actual good actions for other real people will always be more helpful than performatively having Correct Opinions.

Shipping discourse is stupid and pointless. All ships are good because IT'S NOT REAL. Stop trying to drag everyone into this, it literally does not matter!!!!!

Everyone should have their basic needs met. Yes, that means EVERYONE.