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Taking deep breaths so I do not scream at people over the death of Captain Jack and how Johnto relates to it
#y'all realise just saying it is an alternate universe isn't a cure-all#john is the same John as in canon#ianto is different because many of the defining events in his life are erased#john undoubtedly picked Ianto for this role in his twisted fantasy life because of Ianto's significance to jack#but he could have done it to anyone#in any universe#johnto is disgusting#and no I don't believe in grading a character from their worst action#i also don't believe in shipping things that are doomed to be abusive#god forbid I think in complexities#torchwood#captain John Hart#john cart#the death of Captain Jack#johnto#ianto Jones#captain jack harkness
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(TW: Mentions of SA)
Following my posts about Owen and John/Johnto, there is something I would like to put out there that I feel like is very important to say.
You can like ANY torchwood character/ship.
I saw a post on twtwt saying “all Owen fans agree with SA” no they don’t! You can like Owen and acknowledge his actions are bad and the same with John. The problem arises when you deny their actions, defend them or you attempt to justify them. That doesn’t just matter for these two characters, but any of them.
Every character in Torchwood is morally grey; none of them are good people. That is what is so great about the show. HOWEVER, if you cannot criticise these actions and try to pretend that they never happened for the sake of your “perfect character” because it removes what makes them so interesting.
I will never not like someone because of a fictional character they like or a ship they ship, however if they start actively defending an action such as literal SA then I won’t associate with them because that is disgusting. Realistically only a VERY small portion of Owen, John etc fans are like this.
Also a very small thing I want to add because while I’ve only seen this once or twice it made my blood boil. Yes TDOCJ was an AU and yes In the shadows was a hallucination. However you cannot say that to excuse Johns actions only to use those exact scenes to back up your “toxic yaoi” ship in cannon. SA isn’t fucking “Toxic ship! :3” it is a crime.
#wanted to get that off my chest#because I want yall to know I will not hate you for being fans of Owen or John#or for shipping Johnto#torchwood#john hart#johnto#owen harper
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