#john winchester sucked

[dious-chaos]

I've been deeply delving into Supernatural at the moment and I just put something together that I felt should be out in the interwebs.

Dean Winchester and his layers

Obviously we have the stuff everyone already knows right? He likes pie, he has anger issues, he feels overprotective of Sam. But Dean is actually incredibly intelligent yet downplays it for Sam (nothing against Sam cuz I love that man too) and everyone else, some examples of that: He made his own emf reader out of a cassette player and electromagnet from a microwave, he hacked/disarmed a museums security alarm, referenced Vonnegut; Homer; Lord of the Flies and Tolkien, watched and loved Star Trek, he plays dress up/cosplays/larps, etc. Dean was also the one who cared about holidays, trying so hard to give them to little Sammy, and being hurt when adult Sam wanted none of it. Dean had to take on the role of mom and dad for Sam his entire life, even going hungry so his little boy didn’t. He's an amazing cook, has crazy good mechanical skills, loves anything to do with music- karaoke, guitars on his wall, cassette to Cas- and Dean even had a career picked out which had nothing to do with hunting… he wanted to be a firefighter. Dean even took a teaching role as PE teacher in one episode when he could've picked anything else, that just builds a better image of the caring man Dean raised himself to be. Not to mention the fact that when Sam was in the cage with Lucifer Dean GOT OUT!! He wanted that apple pie life, the life he pushed Sam into his whole life because he knew only one of them would get that chance… and of course he'd want it to be his brother/son.

He grew up to hide his wants and dreams in order to please the man who only wanted a soldier, Dean even went so far as seeing his own life as less than Sam and pushing to die instead of the brother he took care of alone. Dean gained food insecurity, he never knew when he would get to eat and we see this throughout the show as he shoves any free food into his mouth like he'll never eat again. He also showed signs of CPTSD, a mental health condition that can develop if you experience chronic (long-term) trauma.

It involves stress responses, such as: Anxiety (maybe like how got scared and he immediately apologized after not shooting John, and then knew it wasn’t his father because the demon wasn’t upset), Having flashbacks or nightmares (post hell is the first thing that comes to mind), Avoiding situations (trying to keep the peace between Sam and John), places and other things related to the traumatic event (avoiding Lawrence KS for decades), Heightened emotional responses, such as impulsivity or aggressiveness (he gets really upset in difficult conversations first and then the other emotions come later), Persistent difficulties in sustaining relationships (come on, Dean is a ladies man).

Examples of chronic trauma include: Long-term child physical or sexual abuse (tell me that John didn’t physically abuse or "discipline" his boys), Long-term domestic violence (again.. Physical abuse by John), Being a victim of human or sex trafficking (not canon… but it could have happened in all the years his father neglected them and fucked off to fight the monsters while his own kids struggled to get by), War (hunter and monsters are at war), Frequent community violence (hunters and monsters alike can be POS). While CPTSD is often associated with chronic trauma in childhood, adults who experience chronic trauma can also develop the condition (which means it only gets worse for Dean as he gets older and doesn't get help for it).

So yeah. Dean deserved better than a piece of rebar at the ass end of Supernatural, that’s all..

[cl0wnju1ce]

John Winchester hate is not only tolerated but encouraged

[theboykingsmichaelsword]

source:

"..though boys may be reckoned the pillars of the house without doors, girls are often the only comfort within. They but too frequently waste their health and spirits attending a dying parent, who leaves them in comparative poverty. After closing, with filial piety, a father's eyes, they are chased from the paternal roof, to make room for the first-born, the son, who is to carry the empty family-name down to posterity..."

--Maria: or, The Wrongs of Woman by Mary Wollstonecraft

[jdms-flat-ass]

POV: You ain’t cinderella but you’re gonna make it fit 👺

[superneightural]

John Horse Posting

Ideally John and Castiel would try to get along but in the way two insane people do and they just sit quietly in the same room drinking beer or whiskey like ‘yeah Im making a good impression’

[batcavescolony]

You know what, I hate myself so I'm gonna watch Supernatural! As a Tumblr user I have knowledge of our hell sites favourite show but I haven't watched past s1 ish? all the supernatural girlies are watching 911 it's only right for me to pay them back ❤

[dious-chaos]

I'm genuinely obsessed with the show Supernatural, and since I made one about Dean already that means I needed to make this one.

Sam Winchester

He likes healthy food (rabbit food), has a fear of being seen as a freak, and idolizes Dean. Sam is irritatingly kind, often pushing Dean to do different things on a hunt than he wouldn't think of doing personally. One example of that is when this psychic kid was trying to kill his stepmom he attempted to talk him down and save him rather than kill him. He is so mentally strong it's scary at times, He has managed to overcome Famine's power and fought through Lucifer's control of his body. Sam forces Dean to look at and deal with his emotions in a way that makes him uncomfortable but makes them better afterward.

The need for revenge fueled him for years after Jess died before it turned into a genuine need to do the right thing and save others. Sam is attentive, listening to every word said to them and putting together a solid plan. He takes on the brains of the hunting, researching every creature and location when they take a case. Sam was essentially kicked out of the home by their father for choosing to get an education- which he did with the intent to be a lawyer- and pushing to gain his own life away from their father's expectations. Sam has a genuine drive to get out of hunting, as seen by the multitude of times he manages to do so. That being said Sam always came back to hunting because of his crazy codependency to Dean which gets them into the most trouble. Sam and Dean take turns dying and saving the other brother for the entirety of the show.

Sam struggles with mental health, specifically what could be seen as schizophrenia. As the show continues Sam withdraws more socially, which is another early sign of schizophrenia. Dean became Sam's main source of contact with people, and he began to drink to the point of passing out often. Sam also begins to have debilitating hallucinations of Lucifer that lead him to harm himself to "get back to reality". If we look back into season 1 we start to see the signs, the big one being suicidal tendencies (Sam believing that he should give himself over to the demons, and even later when he is willing to die to cure Dean). He even has multiple times where he falls into a delusion that he alone can do something (killing Lilith because of his demon-blood addiction, or the trials he puts himself through- to cure Dean). Another symptom is extremely disorganized behavior (Sam gets angry when his "failures" or shortcomings are put into question, this results in him storming off and leaving Dean). The struggle Sam has with his mental health is a significant challenge he faces, which shows the impact the torture and trauma he endured has on his psyche.

Sam deserved an ending that had Dean alongside him helping him be Sammy like he had been his whole life…

[kal-derash]

Doing a SPN rewatch and I can't help but wonder what it would've been like if Dean stayed with Sonny and John had left Sam at Bobby's. Like dude, you already abandon your children on a regular basis. Might as well leave them in a place they WANT to be and can be safe.

[jdms-flat-ass]

The way im obsessed, likeee the mood is that i want to rub myself all up on that hairy peepaw bod fr 👹

[clowndensation]

wait explain to me the destiel hatred i’m curious what abt it angers u that doesn’t apply to the other two ships

great question! the answer would unfortunately require 3 hours and a powerpoint presentation, so i will try to do a brief summary:

a ship sucking only ever has about 25% to do with the ship itself. destiel is bad in the sense that i think dean winchester is an annoying character that gets treated with kiddie gloves by the narrative, which makes him irritating to see on screen, because i personally dislike it when "men are angry and abusive because they just love too strongly, and don't know how to express it :(" is played straight as a character's primary internal conflict. especially over 15 seasons. it's boring, he's boring, and 35 year old men shouldn't be going to colleges trying to figure out which freshman girls are legal or not. hate him.

however the real sin of destiel, beyond the fact that dean winchester and i have beef that will only ever resolve when i get to reincarnate as the rusty nail that kills him, is that the fans are so so so fucking annoying. like yes the narrative frames dean as a golden boy who can either do no wrong, or "well, i guess he did wrong there, but what about how tortured he is :(" but good god. at least the show isn't trying to convince me that destiel is some groundbreaking lifechanging love story, complete with "omg this moment" montages where they romanticize scenes that feature dean either insulting, threatening, or humiliating cas. like this entire show (post season 5) is dean chronically either infantillizing and attempting to keep cas under his control, or holding him up as the only person he can rely on, thus giving cas expectations that are impossible to fulfill.

and don't get me wrong! people can like a shitty person and a fucked up ship. that's basically everything i enjoy on here. but at least like. acknowledge it. aldfkjalka. and if you're gonna like a shitty person and a fucked up ship, at least write about it in an interesting way. 90% of fic and posts written about destiel aren't even about destiel as presented in canon, they're about two generic men with generic personalities who suffer from the world's most generic tropey problems. cookie cutter ass basic relationship. the high school au of ships. boring.

[cyrusthedragon]

This one is for my ookie pookie dookie baby princess @princessoftheturtles muah 💋

[drfrankensteinvsthequeerborgs]

Dean: “Look Dad had his issues okay? But he was always there for us.”

SINCE WHEN?!?! Are we talking about the same John? it’s okay babe he’s dead you don’t have to pretend

[flippyspoon]

saw somebody say "jeffrey dean morgan was my first lesson in separating the actor from the character" and i was genuinely confused for a sec trying to figure out what they meant because i don't like any of those entities lol.