#john shumate

[pinturas-gran-guerra]

1918 03 Sturmtruppen in trench raid - John Shumate

[wuxiaphoenix]

Worldbuilding: Zombies and Interesting Reference Material

Okay. I’m going to blame the Sing Halloween short for this; I just ran across some clips on YT a few days ago.

But I really do think that the response to a zombie invasion - especially after all the books and movies that have been made! - would be a lot less panicked screaming, and a lot more, “Seriously...? Okay, time to break out the crazy.”

Because if you’re in the middle of a zombie apocalypse, it’s definitely time to get crazy.

Different people, of course, would break out Crazy in different ways. Preppers would be forting up, sniping, or both - and there are a surprising number of urban preppers. Enough for there to be a decent variety of books on it on Amazon!

SFF fans? A lot of them have or can improvise weapons, and going to conventions/ Pennsic-style events means plenty of people have a basic grasp on food, clothing, and shelter needs. And how and why barricades work.

And anyone who’s studied history at all is going to be opening an epic can of crazy, because we have millennia of humans trying everything from the mildly odd to the brain-breaking berserk to stay alive and in one piece.

The problem, for the writer, is digging deep into enough crazy to build your story, and move past the “OMG everyone’s going to die!” too many horror movies have inflicted on us. Because that is not how humans really act. Everyone is not going to die.

Which means you want the history of war. Something humans may have been practicing since the dawn of time, if we’ve read various Neolithic sites right. But most of us are writers, not historians. Sure, we can do research; but it takes a long, long time, knowing how to use the right keywords, and no little luck. (Especially if you’re trying to search for books on Amazon. I am still grumpy that searching for historical information on oni kept turning up Celtic fae romances.)

So how to get that history into useful, bite-sized chunks?

I’m going to recc’ one particular publisher as a place to start, because I have used their books a lot over the years. Osprey Publishing started out making info books for wargamers, which they still do, but they soon branched out into making more general books on specific bits of history, like a war, a vehicle, or a group of combatants. They’re short books, most under 50 pages, with plenty of full-color illustrations and no few maps and diagrams. They give you concise, interesting info on one limited subject. And that info has all kinds of names, dates, and other terms you can use to make more specific searches on your own. I wouldn’t use them as my sole history source. But if you need a general overview, or a place to start? Good books to check.

A few of the ones I found just recently:

Mukden 1905: Russia and Japan's Battle for Manchuria (Campaign, 413) by John Valitutto, Johnny Shumate.

I suspect this would be very helpful for cold-weather zombie battles, and how to handle rushes without heavy artillery backup.

Nile River Gunboats 1882–1918 (New Vanguard) by Angus Konstam.

...Yeah, I’m seeing how to handle zombies in the Mississippi, here. Or a lot of other rivers.

War Elephants (New Vanguard, 150) by Konstantin Nossov.

For when the zookeepers get in on the Crazy and try to survive.

Armored Trains (New Vanguard, 140).

AKA exactly what you’d need for fans of Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress to pull off their own brand of crazy.

Go forth, and break the zombie hordes!

[karagin22]

John Basilone at Guadalcanal 1942 by Johnny Shumate

[pinturas-segunda-guerra-mundial]

1945 02 12 Budapest, Storming of the citadel fortress - John Shumate

[staciegirl78]

Im going to add to and edit this post later. This is something I'm working on on my family tree. This is from my family tree and a section I'm researching right now. Some of the Bennett siblings and some of the Lord siblings ended up as couples. I also grew up in the the church of Christ and I was looking to see if I had a family history of this way back in my family. There isn't much and I'm grasping at straws with this. Sarah Bagby and Joseph Noah Cantrell were my great grandparents. Here is Sarah Bagby's parents and grandparents. I've been to the graves of Joe and Sarah and Bill and Nancy and Nancy parents Bill and Sarah. Sou great grandmother was named after both of her grandmas I was told.

New Grove church Of Christ

WRIGHT CO., MISSOURI

1891 Church Membership List from the Journals of Rev. Thomas Todd

Compiled by Yvonne Todd Riley & Joanne Todd

The number in [Brackets] shows the order that the person's name was listed on the original document.

Names are spelled as they appeared in the original document. Mist = Mister ?

ALCORN, R.E.

ALCORN, R.H.

ARMSTRONG, Lucy J.

BAGBY, Nancy C.

BAGBY, Rebecca J.

BAGBY, Sarie K.

BAGBY, Wm. J.

BAGBY, Ws.

BOLINE, Mary J.

BROWN, Oley

CALHOON, Albert

CALHOON, Unas E.

COLE, Sarah E.

GORGE, Jacob

HONEYCUTT, James

HONEYCUT, Mand

HONEYCUT, Rufas

HONEYCUTT, Mist

HURST, Calvin

JOHNSON, Ida F.

JOHNSON, Jenny I.

JOHNSON, R.O.

JOHNSON, Rebecca J.

JOHNSON, S.C.

KENDER, Emeretta

KENDER, Gorge

KENDER, J.P.

KENDER, Treace

KNOST, Oliver

KOLER, Frank

KOLER, Martha

LITLE, Enorinthy

LITLE, Gorge

LORD, Sarah J.

MARRS, Frank

MARRS, Vety

MARS, Wiliam H.

MATLOCK, Nancy A.

MATLOCK, Thos. J. (Deac.)

NEWTON, Barney

NEWTON, Jerry

NEWTON, Poley

OSBERN, Isac

OSBERN, Mary

PEARSON, Sary J.

PILHINGTON, Catherine

PROCK, Anna H.

PROCK, Elizabeth

PROCK, Ellen

PROCK, G.W.

PROCK, James

PROCK, John A.

PROCK, John F. (Deacon)

PROCK, John H.

PROCK, John P.

PROCK, Leander P.

PROCK, Leary

PROCK, Martha A.

PROCK, Preston

PROCK, Sarah J.

PROCK, Sofa

PROCK, Wm. T.

REESE, Perniecy

REESE, Sally (deceased)

RICHMAN, A.L.

RICHMAN, Andrew

RICHMAN, Malinda

SCOTT, Sarah

SHEALDS, Mary E.

SHEALDS, Thomas

SHUMATE, A. (Elder)

SHUMATE, Rebeca

SMITH, Ancy (gone)

SUMERS, James

SUMERS, Mist

TODD, A.J.

TODD, A.J.

TODD, Amanda

TODD, Andrew

TODD, Betty

TODD, Clemin C.

TODD, Elen J.

TODD, Elizabeth

TODD, G.W.

TODD, James H.

TODD, James N.

TODD, John

TODD, John M.

TODD, Mahaly

TODD, Margret

TODD, Mary

TODD, Mary E.

TODD, Mary L.

TODD, Nancy

TODD, Rebecca

TODD, Rebecca

TODD, Rosy

TODD, S.P.

TODD, Thomas (Elder)

TODD, Thomas D.

TODD, Wm.

WARD, Emer

WARD, R.H.

WARD, Sarah

WARD, Sarah

WELLS, Cory

WILLBANKS, Nancy

WILLBANKS, Thomas (Eld)

WILLSON, Mist

WILLSON, William

WOMPLER, G.W.

WOMPLER, July C.

WOOD, Frank

WOOD, Ostan

WOODS, Charley (withdr)

WOODS, James

WOODS, Laura

WOODS, Margret (withdr)

WOODS, Mist

WOODS, Sarah

WYET, John S.

WYET, Sarah

YANDLES, Gorge H.

YANDLES, Isabell

YANDLES, John W.

YANDLES, Nelly

YANDLES, Sary J.

Note from Stacie: some of these names are wrong. For instance the name is Yandle and not Yandles for the names directly above. Perhaps the transcribers could read the notes or maybe they were not right in the notes. I copied and pasted them from the website where the transcription was.

"Webster county state of Missouri. I, William W. Shaver a legal minister of the gospel, did solemnize the rites of matrimony between William S. Bagby and Nancy C. Lord on the 8th day of August 1872.

William W. Shaver

A Minister of the Gospel"

In red is from the real written copy that I saw in online archives but it was blurry when I did a screen shot or the other option made it to small to read so I wrote it out.

You may notice Ws Bagby and Nancy C. Bagby in the church list. They were my 2x great grandparents. I looked at some info for William Wilson Shaver. He was also a minister in the Christian church and a part of the Stone-Campbell/Restoration Movement. My most immediate family subscribes to the church of Christ which is part of the same movement. I never knew where it started. I think this might be a coincidence. This is on my dad's side and actually on his father's side. I never met my grandfather because he passed away before I was born. It was my understanding that he didn't go to church. I know my granny did with us. I know my grandfather's father was a bad person and very mean. It was his wife who was the daughter of Ws Bagby and Nancy Lord.

Also Nancy Lord Bagby's Parents were William (bill) Lord and Sarah J. Bennett. Nancy was the only child ever listed on census records with her parents. I don't have any indication that there were ever more. This feels really unusual for the time but perhaps they couldn't have more.

I noticed that Sarah Lord is in the church list. Bill Lord was also still alive and I don't see him in the church member list. Ws Bagby's Parents were John Bagby and Sarah. I believe that Sarah's Maiden name was Todd and that she was the sister of Thomas Todd...he was the minister of the church members listed above. John and Sarah (Todd) Bagby moved to Texas and we're not here to be in this church. In fact I'm unsure of when they passed away and they may not have been alive at this time... I do not know what church they went to if any. I also can't prove that Sarah was one of the Todds but a lot of the family researchers believe this.

Here is another side note. This appears to be a very tight knit group. I wouldn't expect any less. Below is something on the find a grave site. This is the grave for the daughter of William Shaver who married my 2x great grandparents. You might notice her married name is Isabell Yandle. You might notice this name on the church list of Thomas Todd's church members. Her husband was John W. Yandle according to this site and the photo of the tombstone. I haven't looked for documents to prove this. I don't have any reason to think they are related to me but honestly anyone In this church list could be as tight knit as they were. I'm still looking at the members. I will say a lot of my ancestors and related people are in the New Grove Cemetery.

I will give updates as I have them.

[wutbju]

The +++Positives+++ have revealed all the names from the December 2022 FBFI letter we first received and documented here. The picture used to be blacked out except for Bob Jones III's name, remember?

So the names of all the people are:

Ron Allen

Mike Ascher

Earl Barnett

David Byford

Robert Condict

Jeff Davis

Gordon Dickson

Roger Duvall

Ken Endean

Tony Facenda

Terry Hamilton

Mike Harding

Craig Hartman

Mark Herbster

Marty Herron

David Innes

Don Johnson

Bob Jones III

Taigen Joos

Greg Kaminski

Larry Karsies

Bruce McAllister

Mark Minnick

Nathan Mestler

Larry Oats

Dan Pelletier

Chuck Phelps

Michael Privett

Kent Ramler

Matthew Recker

Kevin Schaal

Dale Seaman

David Shumate (Former BJU Bible Faculty member. Not on the FBFI site)

Ron Smith

Bud Steadman

Dan Unruh

Wayne Van Gelderen

John Vaughn

Joe Willis

Doug Wright

Aaron Young (He's new. Can't find him on the site.)

Anybody surprised?

[weemsbotts]

Recovering Rare Documents & Local History with Don Wilson

By: Lisa Timmerman, Executive Director

It is impossible to not come across Donald L. Wilson (1943-2023) in HDVI’s archives, collections, and Lee Lansing Research Library. Not only did he provide much of our resources and knowledge on Prince William County history, family history, and local history resources, he arranged for our historic society to receive books, transcriptions and extracts/abstracts of court records, and first-person accounts to help Dumfries history flourish.

(Map of Prince William County, Virginia: compiled from U.S. Geological Survey and other data and corrected with the assistance of reliable residents of the county, 1901, via Library of Congress Geography and Map Division)

“During a visit to the Archive Room, at the basement of the County Courthouse, on April 24, I had an opportunity to take stock of what old record books are currently on file there. Original deed, will, and minute books that survive from the 18th and 19th centuries are mostly there.

While leafing through Court Order Book [10], 1755-1757, I found a loose document tucked between pages 6 and 7. It turned out to be a contemporary copy, perhaps the original copy, of a deed dated 1747. Why it was left there is unknown but it should have been recorded in Deed Book K (1746-1748) which has been missing since the Civil War. Following is an abstract of the document:

Indenture, 24 July 1747, between John Frogg of Hamilton Parish, Prince William County, gentleman, and James Keith of the said same parish and county, clerk [minister]. Consideration: 5 shillings sterling paid by said James Keith. All that part of two parts or parcels of land in Hamilton Parish (formerly granted to said John Frogg by the Hon. Thomas Lord Fairfax by two deeds or grants, one dated 30 Dec. 1742, the other 29 Mar. 1744) containing 1509 acres according to a survey thereof lately made by George Byrne, surveyor of said county of Prince William. Beginning at two white oaks and a red oak standing on S side of a small branch called battle branch which is a small branch of Trap branch, the said trees being also beginning of Lamberts land and a corner of the land of Shumate and also a tract of land sold by said John Frogg to John Madison extending thence with the line of Lambert S 56½° W 218 poles to a chestnut corner of Lambert’s lines S 5½° E 83 poles to a white oak corner of Lamberts; thence with another of Lamberts lines S 16° W 242 poles to a red oak on the brown of an hill corner to the said Lamberts; thence with another of his lines S 15½° E 364 poles to a white oak and red oak Lamberts corner near a branch side; thence S 74° E 30 poles to 2 white oaks corner of Lambert and John Peyton  and the beginning of one of the said John Frogg’s deeds abovementioned; thence S 58° W 148 poles to a white oak, red oak and a hickory corners to Peyton on an hill side; thence N 72° W 91 poles to a white oak by a branch side; thence N 20° W 105 poles to a red oak; thence N 38° E 80 poles to a white oak; thence N 12° W 106 poles to 3 chestnut saplins in Bells line; thence with said line N 41° E 66 poles to a stake corner to Bell and Mr. James Scott; thence with said Scotts line N 19° E 100 poles to an hickory his corner; thence N 40° E 54 poles to a large chestnut another of his corners; thence N 40° E 54 poles to a large chesnut another of his corners; thence N 22° W 310 poles to a Spanish oak on a ridge another of his corners; thence N22½° E 140 poles to 2 white oaks on the W side of a branch; thence N 58½° W 46 poles to an hickory another of the said Scotts corners in or near the line of Skinker on the S side of a branch; thence with or near Skinkers line N 20° W 17 poles crossing a branch at the end of the said distance to a white oak corner of Skinker on the branch side; thence with said Skinkers line N 45° W 192 poles to a Spanish oak on the E side of a branch corner of Skinker; thence crossing the branch W 78 poles with the line of Gibsons land to a chesnut his corner; thence N 6½° W 98 poles to a red oak at the head of a valley then N 70° E 160 poles to a red oak marked SN the westmost corner of Nolin’s land and the beginning of said Gibson’s land; thence with the land of said Nolin’s land and the beginning of said Gibson’s land; thence with the land of said Nolins S 78° E 592 poles to the side of Trap branch; thence binding on said branch and extending up the same the several courses and meanders thereof to the mouth of Battle branch; thence up Battle branch S 53° E 26 poles to the beginning; with all the plantations, houses (etc.) to said James Keith his executors etc. from 1st day of this instant July for 1 year. Paying 1 peppercorn upon the Feast of St. Michael if demanded.  [Wording indicates that a release is intended as well as the lease.] Signed: John Frogg. Wit: And’r Rose, Daniel Campbell, Robert Peter, William Grant. Acknowledged at court 27 July 1747. Test: P. Wagener, Clerk. A copy, teste J. Williams, Cl. Cur.

[My earlier statement that this might be the original copy is in error. This copy was made by clerk John Williams who served at Dumfries 1795-1813. Since the land now falls with Fauquier County it perhaps was involved in a land cause before the Dumfries District Superior Court. James Keith was minister of Hamilton Parish from 1736 to 1751. It may be of interest that he was also the maternal grandfather of John Marshall, Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court. This tract may represent the Hamilton Parish glebe granted to Keith after Dettingen Parish was cut off in 1745. The vestry book of Hamilton Parish is said to have been destroyed by vandals during the 19th century. IT is not clear what became of the register of births, marriages and deaths for that time. Could it have been handed down among Keith’s family papers?]

--Don Wilson”

Beside for the recovery of previous lost information, Wilson’s transcription and analysis also provide wonderful insights into the financial and religious life of early Prince William County residents. The Feast of Michael and All Angels, Michaelmas, continues to be celebrated on the 29th of September every year. Associated with the beginning of autumn, it was known as a “quarter day,” and these dates (along with 03/25, 06/24, 12/25) were designated as the “start” dates to hire servants, pay rent, or begin new leases. Michaelmas was seen as the start date of a new productive season of farming and business as people paid debts and elected new magistrates in Great Britain. Identified as an angelic warrior actively fighting evil, St. Michael served as protection against the darker and colder days with the eventual incoming winter season. Fun British folklore associated with the old calendar of Michaelmas, 10/10: supposedly the last day one should pick blackberries as Lucifer fell from the heavens this day and landed on a blackberry bush. After cursing, scorching, spitting, stamping, and well throwing a general tantrum, he made them unfit for consumption.

Wilson’s excitement, enthusiasm, commitment to historic accuracy, and persistence in sharing historic resources, and helping families trace their origins has made a monumental impact in Prince William County and Virginia. By providing a transcript of this one recovered document, we offer researchers, families, and folklorists a unique perspective of early Prince William County history.

Note: RELIC offers delightful accessible digital resources as well as educational programs. Click here to access their online historic records. Click here to see their upcoming programs.

(Sources: HDVI Archives: Prince William County. Wilson, Don. Early Prince William County Deed Found; Johnson, Ben. Michaelmas. Historic UK: The History & Heritage Accommodation Guide, https://www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/Michaelmas/)

[pinturasdeguerra-1945-1985]

1950 11 25 Chinese night attack in the Chongch'on valley - John Shumate

The advance north of Pyongyang proceeded well for UNCOM. As the EUSAK pushed the KPA out of the DPRK capital, Walker prepared his forces to defeat the remaining KPA units, which would allow him to move to the Yalu River, the border with China. The prevailing opinión among MacArthur's staff was that there was little chance of a major Chinese intervention in the DPRK. On November 25, 1950, PVA forces struck the US 2nd Infantry Division at night along their forward positions. With bugles blaring and gongs sounding, the Chinese advanced against the US trenches in massed waves under the light of flares. Peng's forces suffered from a lack of communications, which hampered command and control, planning, and attack execution. They coped by using bugles, drums, and flags to communicate between units. These acted as psychologicaI weapons against UNCOM's forces, which not only warned of an impending attack, but also signaled another human wave assault Chinese commanders were willing to accept large numbers of casualties

[pinturasdeguerra]

Vikings storm a fortress  - John Shumate

[mariocki]

The Man with Nine Lives (Behind the Door, 1940)

"Tell me, how did you come to be in the ice vault? Did you lock yourself in?"

"You wouldn't know that, would you? It's yesterday afternoon to me. But to you it's... it's ten years ago. Ten years..."

[brandonraykirk]

Elias Hatfield, Jailer of Logan County (1892)

Elias Hatfield, Jailer of Logan County (1892)

Elias Hatfield was the brother of Anderson Hatfield and father to Henry D. Hatfield. This item is unrelated to the Hatfield-McCoy Feud.

[pinturas-gran-guerra]

1918 09 26 Cheppy - Patton leads tank assault - John Shumate

[nightmaresandsexyghouls]

Timothy John Shumate ~Portrait Series

[pinturas-segunda-guerra-mundial]

1941 07 16 Kangaskylä - John Shumate

[ariadnes-threads]

Madimi, a Mercurial Daemon (Djinn), a Fallen Angel, a Non-Physical Higher Dimensional Being.

“Behold you are become free: Do that which most pleaseth you: For behold, your own reason riseth up against my wisdome.” - The Angel Madimi in conversation with John Dee and Edward Kelley.

Artwork Credits:

1. “Madimi” by Daniel Mirante.

2. “Madimi” by Stuart Littlejohn.

3. “Madimi” by D. A. Shumate.

4. “Spirit Communication Device”, used by John Dee and Edward Kelley.

5. The frontispiece of Dee’s “Monas Hieroglyphica”, a treatise on higher dimensional geometry.

6. “Initial Contact with Madimi” (2021-03-26).

[nbatrades]

Los Angeles Lakers Acquire Rights to former ABA Star Bo Lamar from Detroit

On October 20th, 1976, the Detroit Pistons traded the draft rights of guard Bo Lamar to the Los Angeles Lakers for a 1978 second round draft pick (Lew Massey).

*In all reports about the trade, Lamar’s drafting rights were dealt to the Lakers for “future draft considerations” or a “future draft choice.”

Back in 1976, the Los Angeles Lakers were in need of guard help and they went to the ABA. That form of help came through the signing of guard Dwight “Bo” Lamar. A former college star, Lamar led the nation in scoring in 1973 at Southwestern Louisiana University. One of the quickest players in basketball, Lamar went on to be drafted in the third round of the 1973 NBA Draft by the Detroit Pistons. He was also taken first overall in the ABA Draft by the San Diego Conquistadors.

In San Diego, he averaged over 20 points a night for two seasons, before the franchise — later named the Sails — folded early in his third season. He joined the Indiana Pacers of the ABA for 35 games before he was cut due to a beef with coach Bobby “Slick” Leonard.

The incident damaged Lamar’s reputation in the sport. He couldn’t find an interested party including the Pistons who owned his NBA rights. Eventually, Lamar found a lifeline in Lakers assistant coach Stan Albeck. Lamar’s former coach at San Diego, Albeck convinced Lakers head coach Jerry West to acquire the speedy guard.

They signed Lamar to a one-year contract right before the start of the 1976-77 NBA season. Lamar’s draft rights were owned by the Pistons who selected the guard 44th overall in the 1973 NBA Draft. To sign Lamar, the Lakers and Pistons agreed on a trade. Though all reports listed Detroit’s compensation in the deal as “future considerations” or a “future draft choice,” it’s unclear what the stipulations were in terms of what Detroit received.

Los Angeles began the 1976-77 season at 8-8. The team’s play would improve as they won 25 of their next 33 games. Regular season MVP Kareem Abdul-Jabbar did the heavy lifting for a Lakers team that only had three players with double figure scoring averages. Los Angeles had the best record in the NBA at 53-29. Lamar was a backup guard for this Lakers squad and appeared in 71 games. He averaged 7.1 PPG, 1.3 RPG, 2.5 APG and 0.8 SPG in 16.4 MPG.

In the playoffs, the Lakers matched up with the Golden State Warriors in the Conference Semifinals. The series opener saw Warriors forward Rick Barry go for 40 points. Still, Abdul-Jabbar had 12 of his 27 points in the fourth quarter as Los Angeles prevailed 115-106.

The Lakers center continued his dominance with a 40-point, 19-rebound, nine-block masterpiece in a Game Two 95-86 Lakers win. The Warriors won Game Three 109-105. They trailed the Lakers by double digits in the first quarter but stormed back in the second quarter. They took control of the game in the fourth when reserve guard Charles Johnson scored 16 points in the final stanza to lead the Warriors’ effort.

In the fourth game, the Warriors built an 18-point lead after three quarters and led by as much as 22 points in a 114-103 victory. Abdul-Jabbar carried his team in the fifth game, going for 45 points and 18 rebounds in a 112-105 Lakers win.

Facing elimination, the Warriors trailed early 17-3. They bounced back and outscored the Lakers 31-5 through the remainder of the first quarter. Barry (27 points) and Jamaal Wilkes (20 points) led Golden State to a 115-106 win despite 43 points and 20 rebounds from Abdul-Jabbar.

In the seventh and final game, the Warriors jumped out to an early lead. They led by 14 points, but the Lakers brought Lamar into the game off the bench and he provided a spark. The guard scored 10 points in a 10-minute stretch in the second quarter that allowed the Lakers to take the lead. That stretch propelled the team to a 97-84 win and allowed them to advance to the Conference Finals. Lamar played in six of the seven games and managed 5.2 PPG, 0.8 RPG and 1.8 APG in 12.8 MPG.

The Lakers took on the Portland Trail Blazers in the Conference Finals. Maurice Lucas had 28 points and 15 caroms in Game One. Portland used a balanced attack to win in the first game 121-109. The second game saw reserve Herm Gilliam contribute 14 points in the fourth quarter. Abdul-Jabbar (40 points and 17 rebounds) missed a shot with five seconds left as Portland took a 2-0 series lead with a 99-97 win.

Game Three saw Portland’s star big men Bill Walton and Lucas rack up 20-10 games as the Blazers went up 3-0 with a 102-97 victory. Lucas had 26 points and 12 rebounds to lead Portland to their fourth consecutive win over the Lakers, 105-101. The loss eliminated the Lakers. Lamar was non-existent in the Conference Finals, scoring just two points in 32 minutes. He shot 8.3% from the field in the four games.

Heading into the next season, the Lakers drafted point guards Brad Davis and Norm Nixon in the first round of the 1977 NBA Draft, and traded for guard Ernie DiGregorio from Buffalo. Lamar did play in Summer League with the Lakers, but he was the odd man out and was waived by the Lakers right before the start of the team’s 1977 training camp.

From reports about the Lamar deal, the Lakers sent “future considerations” to Detroit. It turns out those future considerations were a 1978 second round draft pick that was conditional (via the Long Beach Independent):

"The Lakers insisted they had the right to nullify the deal if Bo [Lamar] did not pan out by Dec. 15.”

That likely means that the Lakers would not have to give up the second round pick if Lamar was waived before December 15. Since Lamar lasted the entire season, the pick was conveyed to the Pistons.

Detroit made a trade in November of 1977 with the Buffalo Braves involving players John Shumate, Gus Gerard and Marvin Barnes. In the deal, the Pistons sent a second round pick from the Lakers (from the Lamar deal) to Buffalo. Seven months later, the Lakers dealt forward Tom Abernethy to Buffalo for that same second round pick right before the 1978 draft. The Lakers selected forward-guard Lew Massey with the 38th pick, meaning that Los Angeles ended up retrieving that pick from the Lamar deal.

Los Angeles Lakers head coach Jerry West on Lamar (via the Crowley Post-Signal):

“I was very concerned about a lack of speed in our back court. But I don’t think there is anyone in the game who is faster than Bo.”

Image via Getty Images/Focus On Sport