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1942 07 23 Rostov street fighting - John Shumate
Troops from the SS-Division Wiking fight their way down a street in Rostov-on-Don, 23 July 1942. Support fire for the infantrymen is provided by a 2cm FlaK 38 gun (manned by a two-man team) from the heavy-weapons company of the III./SSRgt Germania. One of the team, the gunner, sits on the seat and directs the firing, while the other maintains ammunition supply. Although 2cm FlaK guns were designed for low- to medium altitude anti-aircraft fire, they provided excellent support-fire capabilities for infantry, with an effective range of nearly 6,000m and a cyclical rate of fire of 120rd/min. The gun is acting in support of a squad of grenadiers from the III./SS-Rgt Germania, under the leadership of an SS Rottenführer, who is shouting commands for the extraction of a wounded soldier. Several of the men are armed with MP 40 SMGs, with the corresponding slender canvas magazine pouches. Note the soldier dragging his comrade to safety – as was a standard practice, he has filled a bread bag with stick grenades, for ready access to them during house-clearing operations.
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pinturas-gran-guerra ¡ 1 year ago
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1918 03 Sturmtruppen in trench raid - John Shumate
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collapsedsquid ¡ 2 months ago
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Senior U.S. District Judge John Coughenour on Thursday was blistering in his criticism of Trump’s action as he granted a temporary restraining order that blocks Trump’s [birthright citizenship] executive order from taking effect nationwide. [...] “In your opinion is this executive order constitutional?” he asked. Said Shumate, “It absolutely is.” “Frankly, I have difficulty understanding how a member of the Bar could state unequivocally that this is a constitutional order,” Coughenour said. “It just boggles my mind.”
Get these sort of awkward moments in adversarial legalism
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dreaminginthedeepsouth ¡ 2 months ago
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“Blatantly unconstitutional.”
January 24, 2025
Robert B. Hubbell
Trump's imaginary dictatorial powers ran into a judicial wall on Thursday. Judge John Coughenour temporarily blocked implementation of Trump's birthright citizenship executive order, and took the opportunity to excoriate the DOJ lawyer defending the order. In unusually blunt language, the judge said:
I’ve been on the bench for over four decades, I can’t remember another case where the question presented is as clear as this one is. This is a blatantly unconstitutional order. There are other times in world history where we look back and people of goodwill can say where were the judges, where were the lawyers?“
The judge continued with sharp questioning the DOJ attorney, :
Judge Coughenour: “In your opinion Is this executive order constitutional?” [DOJ Attorney] Brett Shumate: “[I]t absolutely is.” Judge Coughenour: “Frankly, I have difficulty understanding how a member of the Bar could state unequivocally that this is a constitutional order. It just boggles my mind.”
As Ian Millhhiser noted in Vox,
Coughenour is correct. There isn’t even a plausible argument that Trump’s order is constitutional. The Constitution is absolutely clear that all people born in the United States and subject to its laws are citizens, regardless of their parents’ immigration status. The Supreme Court recognized this principle more than 125 years ago.
But Secretary of State Marco Rubio wasted no time in ordering the State Department to cease accepting passport applications marked with a “X” in the “Gender” box. See The Intercept, Rubio Orders State Department to Stop Issuing Accurate Passports to Trans People
Although predicting the behavior of the reactionary majority on the Supreme Court is a tricky business, the Republican justices should have no trouble applying the plain words of the Constitution to strike down Trump's unconstitutional order. After all, they claim to be “textualists” and “originalists.”
Judge Coughenour’s action was unremarkable because it was a straightforward application of the law, but his comments from the bench should provide us with a sense of relief. We are not caught in a “Through the Looking Glass” world in which “up is down” and “right is wrong.”
True, Trump has assaulted and weakened judicial guardrails, but some remain in effect. Judge Coughenour’s ruling illustrates why we must continue to resist. Do not surrender to the cynical viewpoint that says that resistance is futile.
Trump was undoubtedly told by aides that the Supreme Court would strike down the birthright executive order, but he issued it nonetheless for its in terrorem in effect. The point of the order was to confuse and frighten Americans citizens and undocumented immigrants alike.
So, take heart! The spirit of democracy has seeped into to the bones of America and its people. It will outlast Trump—as long as we keep the faith!
Trump's decision to grant a mass pardon for J6 was an impetuous, last-minute decision
Trump's apologists claimed that he would grant pardons to January 6 insurrectionists on a “case-by-case” basis. We were told so by AG Pam Bondi, Vice President JD Vance, Senator Ted Cruz, and Fox personality Sean Hannity. Despite those assurances, Trump granted mass pardons to every January 6 insurrectionist without regard to the severity of their crimes.
Trump is famously impatient, unfocused, undisciplined, and lazy. Wading through 1,600 pardon cases is far beyond his short attention span and his feeble powers of concentration. So, it is no surprise that Trump granted the mass pardons out of sense of exasperation and laziness. See Axios, "F--k it: Release 'em all": Why Trump embraced broad Jan. 6 pardons.
A key point in the Axios article is that JD Vance always favored a blanket pardon, consistent with the Trump team’s view that “all prosecutions were tainted.” (The article does not explain why prosecuting violent criminals suggests “taint.”)
The Axios article also makes the point that Trump and his advisers did not believe that a mass pardon would hurt Trump politically. They were wrong—and undoubtedly regret their miscalculation (though they will never admit that fact).
Here’s the point: While other presidents make decisions by careful weighing of the alternatives based on a risk-benefit analysis, Trump is flying by the seat of his pants. We knew that already, but the mass pardons remind once again that Trump makes decisions in an impetuous, mercurial, unguided, and reckless manner.
Musk doubles down on Nazi-themed symbolism
Earlier this week, when Elon Musk used a hand gesture that mimicked the Nazi salute, many commentators and politicians went out of their way to claim that Musk made an involuntary, “awkward” gesture that should not be interpreted as a Nazi salute.
But Musk never denied that the gesture was a Nazi salute—something he could have and should have done if his gesture was innocent. He did no such thing.
Instead, on Thursday, Musk posted a series of Nazi-themed jokes on Twitter that mocked the critics who claimed he gave a Nazi salute. For example, Musk wrote, “Bet you did Nazi see that coming.” Other jokes referenced Himmler, Goebbels and Hess—each an infamous senior member of the Nazi party and advisor to Hitler.
The Anti-Defamation League initially defended Musk after he gave his salute, but the ADL switched positions to condemn Musk after the tasteless and offensive Nazi-themed jokes. See Axios, ADL condemns Musk's Nazi "jokes" after salute controversy
Let’s hope that everyone who criticized Musk’s critics for “being too quick to judge” has learned their lesson. There is nothing innocent or unintentional about Trump and Musk’s race-baiting and white supremacist flirtations. They know exactly what they are doing, what dog-whistles to blow, and which code words to say. We are long past “giving them the benefit of the doubt.”
Is DOGE faltering before it achieves lift off?
Vivek Ramaswamy apparently left the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) because of conflicts with Musk over the objectives of DOGE. See WSJ, Inside the Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy DOGE Divorce. Ramaswamy wanted to cut regulations, while Musk was interested only in cutting spending.
Another point of tension was the nature of DOGE itself. Ramaswamy wanted it to be an outside think tank. But Trump signed an executive order that renamed an existing executive branch office as the United States DOGE Service. The executive order requires every government agency to appoint a “DOGE” sleeper cell within the agency, consisting of an attorney, engineer, and HR specialist.
But there are rumors that Musk will not be long for DOGE. Musk is now becoming a headache for the Trump administration. As noted by Robert Reich, Musk has disagreed with Trump on investments in artificial intelligence and is drawing unwanted attention over Nazi salutes. Robert Reich is predicting that Musk will be gone in a week. See Robert Reich on Substack, The Muskrat Strikes Back.
We can only hope!
Trump blathers at Davos, Putin yawns at Trump's threat of sanctions, and a timid press corps fails us (again)
We are already 48-hours past the deadline Trump set for settling Putin’s invasion of Ukraine and there is no settlement in sight. Yesterday, Trump came up with the unoriginal idea of imposing sanctions on Russia if Putin does not agree to a cease-fire. Putin’s spokesperson responded by saying that Trump's threats introduced “no new elements” and that Russia was accustomed to threats of sanctions from Trump. See CNN, Video: The Kremlin responds to Trump calling on Putin to make a ‘deal’ with Ukraine.
Trump renewed his calls for peace in Ukraine at the Davos conference. In a speech that screamed “cognitive decline,” Trump repeatedly said that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine had resulted in “millions and millions” of soldiers being killed on both sides.
While the war is tragic and hundreds of thousands have died (combined), the exaggeration is symptomatic of cognitive decline. Per the NYTimes, best estimates suggest that 62,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed, and 150,000 Russian soldiers have died. See NYTimes, Ukraine Is Losing Fewer Soldiers Than Russia — but It’s Still Losing the War
At the very least, an attentive press corps should have called out Trump for the wild exaggeration of “millions and millions” of death. Instead, there is only the sound of crickets from the pathetic, obedient, cowed Washington press pool reporters.
At least Business Insider made an effort at noting the bewilderment that Trump's speech caused among the Davos attendees. See Business Insider, I was in the packed hall at Davos to hear Trump speak. The audience went from laughter to silence in seconds. After describing Trump’s desultory responses to questions from panelists and the puzzled reaction of the audience, the Business Insider article concludes with a cup of lukewarm milk. The author of the article writes:
Trump's speech reminded me how different his style is from the measured, diplomatic tone that usually defines Davos. Whether his message landed the way he intended, however, is another question.
Oh, come on! Just say that Trump's speech was a train wreck—which is precisely what everyone was thinking.
Raw Story summarized the reaction on social media in its article entitled, 'Blathering in Davos': Trump mocked for 'lies and moronic claims' in big economic speech.
Trump is a laughingstock on the international stage. No surprise there. He was last term, as well.
The hypocrisy of the “party of family values”
It appears that the Senate will confirm the nomination of Pete Hegseth as Secretary of Defense. Hegseth’s nomination has so many red flags it should have been withdrawn. Particularly troubling are allegations of repeated instances of abuse and assaults against women. The latest revelations—by Hegeseth’s former sister-in-law- were enough to give two Republican Senators grounds to vote against Hegseth—Senators Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins. See The Hill, Senate advances Pete Hegseth nomination, two GOP senators vote no.
But Hegseth’s nomination will likely pass on a 51-49 vote, or a 50-50 vote with JD Vance as tiebreaker. It is truly shocking to see Republican men and women in the Senate ignore serious allegations of domestic abuse and sexual assault. But, having excused and ignored those same traits in their president, it is unsurprising that the GOP caucus in the Senate will confirm Hegseth.
In a disturbing report that contextualizes the GOP’s acceptance of sexual abuse and assault, Speaker Mike Johnson’s plan to jump start an investigation of the January 6 insurrection hit a bump in the road. Eager investigators planned to subpoena Cassidy Hutchinson’s text messages.
And then Republicans in the House begged Mike Johnson not to issue the subpoena because—wait for it—of the sexually explicit text messages that Republicans in the House had sent to Cassidy Hutchinson. See Anchorage Daily News, Aide to House Speaker Johnson advised against subpoena of Jan. 6 witness over concerns about ‘sexual texts’ from lawmakers.
Per the Alaska Daily News story (sourced to WaPo),
[An aide to Speaker] Johnson told [Rep.] Loudermilk’s staff that multiple colleagues had raised concerns with the speaker’s office about the potential for public disclosure of “sexual texts from members who were trying to engage in sexual favors” with Hutchinson
There is no suggestion that Hutchinson did anything inappropriate. Rather, the strong implication is that she was sexually harassed by Republican representatives in the House who sent sexually explicit requests to Hutchinson. To avoid revealing those texts, GOP Rep. Loudermilk has concluded that the J6 Revenge Committee does not need Hutchinson’s texts after all.
The behavior of the GOP representatives in the House is disgusting—both because it occurred and because it is being covered up with the cooperation of Speaker Mike Johnson. The obvious response of a Speaker with any sense of decency and ethics would be to commence an investigation to see which members of the House were harassing a young White House staffer. But no, as with the Matt Gaetz investigation files, Johnson wants to pretend that the conduct did not happen.
Here's the point: It is a consistent pattern with Republican members of Congress that they accept, excuse, and commit sexual harassment, abuse, and assault. The GOP congressional caucus is like a middle school locker room.
[Robert B. Hubbell Newsletter]
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darkmaga-returns ¡ 1 month ago
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Movie industry exec Lindsay May (C); comic Ken Flores (28); baseballer Rich Dauer; hoopster John Shumate; TV producer Allyce Ozarski (41, C); music exec Ben Vaughn (49); broadcaster Bill Weber; & more
Mark Crispin Miller
Feb 05, 2025
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darkluz43 ¡ 1 month ago
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Remembering John Shumate (1952-2025)
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ball-in ¡ 1 month ago
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wuxiaphoenix ¡ 4 months ago
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Worldbuilding: Zombies and Interesting Reference Material
Okay. I’m going to blame the Sing Halloween short for this; I just ran across some clips on YT a few days ago.
But I really do think that the response to a zombie invasion - especially after all the books and movies that have been made! - would be a lot less panicked screaming, and a lot more, “Seriously...? Okay, time to break out the crazy.”
Because if you’re in the middle of a zombie apocalypse, it’s definitely time to get crazy.
Different people, of course, would break out Crazy in different ways. Preppers would be forting up, sniping, or both - and there are a surprising number of urban preppers. Enough for there to be a decent variety of books on it on Amazon!
SFF fans? A lot of them have or can improvise weapons, and going to conventions/ Pennsic-style events means plenty of people have a basic grasp on food, clothing, and shelter needs. And how and why barricades work.
And anyone who’s studied history at all is going to be opening an epic can of crazy, because we have millennia of humans trying everything from the mildly odd to the brain-breaking berserk to stay alive and in one piece.
The problem, for the writer, is digging deep into enough crazy to build your story, and move past the “OMG everyone’s going to die!” too many horror movies have inflicted on us. Because that is not how humans really act. Everyone is not going to die.
Which means you want the history of war. Something humans may have been practicing since the dawn of time, if we’ve read various Neolithic sites right. But most of us are writers, not historians. Sure, we can do research; but it takes a long, long time, knowing how to use the right keywords, and no little luck. (Especially if you’re trying to search for books on Amazon. I am still grumpy that searching for historical information on oni kept turning up Celtic fae romances.)
So how to get that history into useful, bite-sized chunks?
I’m going to recc’ one particular publisher as a place to start, because I have used their books a lot over the years. Osprey Publishing started out making info books for wargamers, which they still do, but they soon branched out into making more general books on specific bits of history, like a war, a vehicle, or a group of combatants. They’re short books, most under 50 pages, with plenty of full-color illustrations and no few maps and diagrams. They give you concise, interesting info on one limited subject. And that info has all kinds of names, dates, and other terms you can use to make more specific searches on your own. I wouldn’t use them as my sole history source. But if you need a general overview, or a place to start? Good books to check.
A few of the ones I found just recently:
Mukden 1905: Russia and Japan's Battle for Manchuria (Campaign, 413) by John Valitutto, Johnny Shumate.
I suspect this would be very helpful for cold-weather zombie battles, and how to handle rushes without heavy artillery backup.
Nile River Gunboats 1882–1918 (New Vanguard) by Angus Konstam.
...Yeah, I’m seeing how to handle zombies in the Mississippi, here. Or a lot of other rivers.
War Elephants (New Vanguard, 150) by Konstantin Nossov.
For when the zookeepers get in on the Crazy and try to survive.
Armored Trains (New Vanguard, 140).
AKA exactly what you’d need for fans of Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress to pull off their own brand of crazy.
Go forth, and break the zombie hordes!
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karagin22 ¡ 10 months ago
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John Basilone at Guadalcanal 1942 by Johnny Shumate
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news365timesindia ¡ 2 months ago
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[ad_1] A federal judge ruled Thursday that President Donald Trump’s executive order to end birthright citizenship is “blatantly unconstitutional” and issued a temporary restraining order to block the policy from taking effect, CNN reported. Judge John Coughenour, a Ronald Reagan appointee based in Seattle, granted an emergency request from Washington State Attorney General Nick Brown and three other Democratic-led states to halt the executive order for the next 14 days while the legal challenge continues. “I have been on the bench for over four decades. I can’t remember another case whether the question presented was as clear,” Coughenour said. “Where were the lawyers” when the decision to sign the executive order was made, the judge asked. He said that it “boggled” his mind that a member of the bar would claim the order was constitutional. The Democratic-led states are seeking a temporary restraining order, as they argue that Trump’s executive order is a blatant violation of the Constitution’s 14th Amendment, which guarantees citizenship to all children born on US soil and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, as reported by CNN. Lane Polozola, an attorney representing the state of Washington, told the judge that “births cannot be paused” while the court reviews the case. “Babies are being born today here, and in the plaintiff states and around the country, with a cloud cast over their citizenship,” Polozola said. He warned that children who are denied citizenship under Trump’s executive order would face “long-term substantial negative impacts.” Polozola further argued that the Trump administration had not only ignored these potential harms in its filings but that the harm “appears to be the purpose” of the order itself. In addition to the impact on individuals, Washington and other states argue that ending birthright citizenship would place a financial and logistical burden on state programs, as these children would no longer be eligible for federal benefits that they would typically receive as US citizens, as reported by CNN. In defence, the Trump administration argues that the clause “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” allows the president to exclude children of undocumented immigrants, as well as children of parents who are legally present but lack permanent status. Justice Department attorney Brett Shumate urged the judge to hold off on issuing an emergency order blocking the policy until there was more briefing on the policy. “I understand your concerns,” Shumate said, but he urged the court against making “a snap judgment on the merits.” Shumate noted that the other cases challenging the executive order were moving on a slower timeline and argued that “imminent harm” was threatening the states. [ad_2] Source link
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news365times ¡ 2 months ago
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[ad_1] A federal judge ruled Thursday that President Donald Trump’s executive order to end birthright citizenship is “blatantly unconstitutional” and issued a temporary restraining order to block the policy from taking effect, CNN reported. Judge John Coughenour, a Ronald Reagan appointee based in Seattle, granted an emergency request from Washington State Attorney General Nick Brown and three other Democratic-led states to halt the executive order for the next 14 days while the legal challenge continues. “I have been on the bench for over four decades. I can’t remember another case whether the question presented was as clear,” Coughenour said. “Where were the lawyers” when the decision to sign the executive order was made, the judge asked. He said that it “boggled” his mind that a member of the bar would claim the order was constitutional. The Democratic-led states are seeking a temporary restraining order, as they argue that Trump’s executive order is a blatant violation of the Constitution’s 14th Amendment, which guarantees citizenship to all children born on US soil and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, as reported by CNN. Lane Polozola, an attorney representing the state of Washington, told the judge that “births cannot be paused” while the court reviews the case. “Babies are being born today here, and in the plaintiff states and around the country, with a cloud cast over their citizenship,” Polozola said. He warned that children who are denied citizenship under Trump’s executive order would face “long-term substantial negative impacts.” Polozola further argued that the Trump administration had not only ignored these potential harms in its filings but that the harm “appears to be the purpose” of the order itself. In addition to the impact on individuals, Washington and other states argue that ending birthright citizenship would place a financial and logistical burden on state programs, as these children would no longer be eligible for federal benefits that they would typically receive as US citizens, as reported by CNN. In defence, the Trump administration argues that the clause “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” allows the president to exclude children of undocumented immigrants, as well as children of parents who are legally present but lack permanent status. Justice Department attorney Brett Shumate urged the judge to hold off on issuing an emergency order blocking the policy until there was more briefing on the policy. “I understand your concerns,” Shumate said, but he urged the court against making “a snap judgment on the merits.” Shumate noted that the other cases challenging the executive order were moving on a slower timeline and argued that “imminent harm” was threatening the states. [ad_2] Source link
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staciegirl78 ¡ 1 year ago
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Im going to add to and edit this post later. This is something I'm working on on my family tree. This is from my family tree and a section I'm researching right now. Some of the Bennett siblings and some of the Lord siblings ended up as couples. I also grew up in the the church of Christ and I was looking to see if I had a family history of this way back in my family. There isn't much and I'm grasping at straws with this. Sarah Bagby and Joseph Noah Cantrell were my great grandparents. Here is Sarah Bagby's parents and grandparents. I've been to the graves of Joe and Sarah and Bill and Nancy and Nancy parents Bill and Sarah. Sou great grandmother was named after both of her grandmas I was told.
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New Grove church Of Christ
WRIGHT CO., MISSOURI
1891 Church Membership List from the Journals of Rev. Thomas Todd
Compiled by Yvonne Todd Riley & Joanne Todd
The number in [Brackets] shows the order that the person's name was listed on the original document.
Names are spelled as they appeared in the original document. Mist = Mister ?
ALCORN, R.E.
ALCORN, R.H.
ARMSTRONG, Lucy J.
BAGBY, Nancy C.
BAGBY, Rebecca J.
BAGBY, Sarie K.
BAGBY, Wm. J.
BAGBY, Ws.
BOLINE, Mary J.
BROWN, Oley
CALHOON, Albert
CALHOON, Unas E.
COLE, Sarah E.
GORGE, Jacob
HONEYCUTT, James
HONEYCUT, Mand
HONEYCUT, Rufas
HONEYCUTT, Mist
HURST, Calvin
JOHNSON, Ida F.
JOHNSON, Jenny I.
JOHNSON, R.O.
JOHNSON, Rebecca J.
JOHNSON, S.C.
KENDER, Emeretta
KENDER, Gorge
KENDER, J.P.
KENDER, Treace
KNOST, Oliver
KOLER, Frank
KOLER, Martha
LITLE, Enorinthy
LITLE, Gorge
LORD, Sarah J.
MARRS, Frank
MARRS, Vety
MARS, Wiliam H.
MATLOCK, Nancy A.
MATLOCK, Thos. J. (Deac.)
NEWTON, Barney
NEWTON, Jerry
NEWTON, Poley
OSBERN, Isac
OSBERN, Mary
PEARSON, Sary J.
PILHINGTON, Catherine
PROCK, Anna H.
PROCK, Elizabeth
PROCK, Ellen
PROCK, G.W.
PROCK, James
PROCK, John A.
PROCK, John F. (Deacon)
PROCK, John H.
PROCK, John P.
PROCK, Leander P.
PROCK, Leary
PROCK, Martha A.
PROCK, Preston
PROCK, Sarah J.
PROCK, Sofa
PROCK, Wm. T.
REESE, Perniecy
REESE, Sally (deceased)
RICHMAN, A.L.
RICHMAN, Andrew
RICHMAN, Malinda
SCOTT, Sarah
SHEALDS, Mary E.
SHEALDS, Thomas
SHUMATE, A. (Elder)
SHUMATE, Rebeca
SMITH, Ancy (gone)
SUMERS, James
SUMERS, Mist
TODD, A.J.
TODD, A.J.
TODD, Amanda
TODD, Andrew
TODD, Betty
TODD, Clemin C.
TODD, Elen J.
TODD, Elizabeth
TODD, G.W.
TODD, James H.
TODD, James N.
TODD, John
TODD, John M.
TODD, Mahaly
TODD, Margret
TODD, Mary
TODD, Mary E.
TODD, Mary L.
TODD, Nancy
TODD, Rebecca
TODD, Rebecca
TODD, Rosy
TODD, S.P.
TODD, Thomas (Elder)
TODD, Thomas D.
TODD, Wm.
WARD, Emer
WARD, R.H.
WARD, Sarah
WARD, Sarah
WELLS, Cory
WILLBANKS, Nancy
WILLBANKS, Thomas (Eld)
WILLSON, Mist
WILLSON, William
WOMPLER, G.W.
WOMPLER, July C.
WOOD, Frank
WOOD, Ostan
WOODS, Charley (withdr)
WOODS, James
WOODS, Laura
WOODS, Margret (withdr)
WOODS, Mist
WOODS, Sarah
WYET, John S.
WYET, Sarah
YANDLES, Gorge H.
YANDLES, Isabell
YANDLES, John W.
YANDLES, Nelly
YANDLES, Sary J.
Note from Stacie: some of these names are wrong. For instance the name is Yandle and not Yandles for the names directly above. Perhaps the transcribers could read the notes or maybe they were not right in the notes. I copied and pasted them from the website where the transcription was.
"Webster county state of Missouri. I, William W. Shaver a legal minister of the gospel, did solemnize the rites of matrimony between William S. Bagby and Nancy C. Lord on the 8th day of August 1872.
William W. Shaver
A Minister of the Gospel"
In red is from the real written copy that I saw in online archives but it was blurry when I did a screen shot or the other option made it to small to read so I wrote it out.
You may notice Ws Bagby and Nancy C. Bagby in the church list. They were my 2x great grandparents. I looked at some info for William Wilson Shaver. He was also a minister in the Christian church and a part of the Stone-Campbell/Restoration Movement. My most immediate family subscribes to the church of Christ which is part of the same movement. I never knew where it started. I think this might be a coincidence. This is on my dad's side and actually on his father's side. I never met my grandfather because he passed away before I was born. It was my understanding that he didn't go to church. I know my granny did with us. I know my grandfather's father was a bad person and very mean. It was his wife who was the daughter of Ws Bagby and Nancy Lord.
Also Nancy Lord Bagby's Parents were William (bill) Lord and Sarah J. Bennett. Nancy was the only child ever listed on census records with her parents. I don't have any indication that there were ever more. This feels really unusual for the time but perhaps they couldn't have more.
I noticed that Sarah Lord is in the church list. Bill Lord was also still alive and I don't see him in the church member list. Ws Bagby's Parents were John Bagby and Sarah. I believe that Sarah's Maiden name was Todd and that she was the sister of Thomas Todd...he was the minister of the church members listed above. John and Sarah (Todd) Bagby moved to Texas and we're not here to be in this church. In fact I'm unsure of when they passed away and they may not have been alive at this time... I do not know what church they went to if any. I also can't prove that Sarah was one of the Todds but a lot of the family researchers believe this.
Here is another side note. This appears to be a very tight knit group. I wouldn't expect any less. Below is something on the find a grave site. This is the grave for the daughter of William Shaver who married my 2x great grandparents. You might notice her married name is Isabell Yandle. You might notice this name on the church list of Thomas Todd's church members. Her husband was John W. Yandle according to this site and the photo of the tombstone. I haven't looked for documents to prove this. I don't have any reason to think they are related to me but honestly anyone In this church list could be as tight knit as they were. I'm still looking at the members. I will say a lot of my ancestors and related people are in the New Grove Cemetery.
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I will give updates as I have them.
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wutbju ¡ 2 years ago
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The +++Positives+++ have revealed all the names from the December 2022 FBFI letter we first received and documented here. The picture used to be blacked out except for Bob Jones III's name, remember?
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So the names of all the people are:
Ron Allen
Mike Ascher
Earl Barnett
David Byford
Robert Condict
Jeff Davis
Gordon Dickson
Roger Duvall
Ken Endean
Tony Facenda
Terry Hamilton
Mike Harding
Craig Hartman
Mark Herbster
Marty Herron
David Innes
Don Johnson
Bob Jones III
Taigen Joos
Greg Kaminski
Larry Karsies
Bruce McAllister
Mark Minnick
Nathan Mestler
Larry Oats
Dan Pelletier
Chuck Phelps
Michael Privett
Kent Ramler
Matthew Recker
Kevin Schaal
Dale Seaman
David Shumate (Former BJU Bible Faculty member. Not on the FBFI site)
Ron Smith
Bud Steadman
Dan Unruh
Wayne Van Gelderen
John Vaughn
Joe Willis
Doug Wright
Aaron Young (He's new. Can't find him on the site.)
Anybody surprised?
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1941 07 16 Kangaskylä - John Shumate
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1918 09 26 Cheppy - Patton leads tank assault - John Shumate
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1950 11 25 Chinese night attack in the Chongch'on valley - John Shumate
The advance north of Pyongyang proceeded well for UNCOM. As the EUSAK pushed the KPA out of the DPRK capital, Walker prepared his forces to defeat the remaining KPA units, which would allow him to move to the Yalu River, the border with China. The prevailing opiniĂłn among MacArthur's staff was that there was little chance of a major Chinese intervention in the DPRK. On November 25, 1950, PVA forces struck the US 2nd Infantry Division at night along their forward positions. With bugles blaring and gongs sounding, the Chinese advanced against the US trenches in massed waves under the light of flares. Peng's forces suffered from a lack of communications, which hampered command and control, planning, and attack execution. They coped by using bugles, drums, and flags to communicate between units. These acted as psychologicaI weapons against UNCOM's forces, which not only warned of an impending attack, but also signaled another human wave assault Chinese commanders were willing to accept large numbers of casualties
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