#jiang yexue

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[xmitchxx]

Xiaojiu mad😭

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[Yuwu 2022 - 2023]

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wip

[talk-danmei-to-me]

Meatbun’s Holy Trinity of Evil:

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Qi Rong from Heaven Official’s Blessing (TGCF)

Submission: I mean... He dragged a literal child through the city on the back of a carriage. And he kills humans and eats them. He's pathetic. He's basically a cartoon villain, it's pitiful and that's why I love him

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Jiang Yexue from Remnants of Filth / Yuwu

Submission: Incest, kidnapping, mass murder, use of the Zhenlong Chess Formation, curse casting, etc.

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Okay so I just finished Remnant of Filth (including the unofficial translation) and I am having THOUGHTS that I can’t talk about with anyone so I’m going to talk about everything here 🤞

Warning : very very long post lmao

YUWU SPOILERS INCLUDING THE END (DO NOY READ IF YOU HAVEN’T FINISHED EVERYTHING GUYS INCLUDING THE BOOKS NOT RELEASED YET IN ENGLISH)

Ok so : first, this series is a MASTERPIECE. Why did no one force me to read it before ? WHY don’t people talk about it more ? This was so so good, probably my favorite damnei so far and one of my favorite book series altogether.

It has been a long, long time since a book made me feel so many emotions. I spent most of this year in a reading slump and only managed to go back into books recently, and this was so good.

First : the characters. I loved how they were all so well developed, even the secondary characters. Even when I hated them, Meatbun managed to make you feel all kind of emotions. I ended up actually liking Murong Lian even if I wanted to kill him at the beginning, I felt compassion for Yue Chenqing, I HATED Jiang Yexue, and I cried in a way I haven’t in a very long time for Murong Chuyi.

As for Gu Mang and Mo Xi, they were so tragically written. Two characters who just want peace and to be together, but have to give their all to their corrupt country, because they’re not just people ; they’re generals. The conflict of Gu Mang, who just want to love Mo Xi but is too loyal towards his goal : peace and recognition for slaves and commoners. His sacrifices for an Emperor who actively works against him. Mo Xi’s feeling and love that almost bleed through the pages ; all his emotions and his character tragedy. And even at the end, when Gu Mang was dead and he could have chosen revenge, he still choose to sacrifice himself for the world. Everything around them kept taking and taking and taking everything from them, and they still choose to be good at the end. They could have so easily become villains, and it would have been more than deserved, but instead they choose their paths. I have rarely seen two characters who deserved their happy ending more, and you can’t imagined how much I cried at the end when I truly believed that the book would end in a tragedy and that they wouldn’t ever be happy together. I feel like the ending is perfect for them honestly : even if they can’t be themselves, they’re happy, together, far away from a scheming court that took everything for them. Also, the fact that Gu Mang knew he was probably a member of the imperial family and still decided to hide it because he had decided to help the enslaved people ? He was a teenager at the time, and a slave. Everyone in the same situation would have said something to try and get better living conditions, but not him : he choose other people over himself, over and over again.

Except from them, my favorite character is without a doubt Murong Chuyi. I loved him when he appeared, loved him throughout the books, and loved him even more when the truth about him was revealed. I cried so much at his death : he suffered under Jiang Yexue for all his life, incapable of showing affection to his nephew, and still, he was always thinking about people, about how to do good in the world, even if it could never be revealed. And at the end, he tried to protect the cousin he never knew he had before. His happy ending was taken from him because of his kindness ; if he hadn’t been kind to Jiang Yexue when they were children, maybe none of that would have happened. The river of tears I shed over him were worth it, but I honestly would kill for his happy ending 🥲

Second : the plot. My god, the author was on fire with this one. All the plot twists, one after the other ? I went into this blind and only got spoiled Gu Mang blood relation with Murong Lian and Murong Chuyi, but this was WILD. Nothing is as it appears. Maybe I’m naive and rusty, but I really wanted to trust the Emperor or even Mengze. I did feel like something was wrong with Jiang Yexue, but I never imagined the depth of his depravity, to literally go all yandere on someone (I HATED HIM SO FUCKING MUCH OMG). And yes he didn’t know that they were half-brothers but STILL. Probably the only complaint that I have if that Mengze is not the girlboss I thought she was 😑 Why can’t we have a four dimensional, morally grey, interesting female character ? Is it seriously too much to ask ?

I honestly just read the seven books one after the other and can’t remember every plot-twist, but I know I kept being surprised about everything lol. I didn’t even cloak that Gu Mang was a spy until it was revealed lol I’m so dumb and ended up crying (again)(to no one surprise).

Okay so I think I’m going to stop here because this is already long enough but to finish : READ YUWU IF YOU HAVEN’T and if you have I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK ABOUT IT WITH ME (but if you’re here I do hope you’ve finished the story since I just spoiled basically everything)

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ive already read yuwu online and am rereading as the physical copies get released and fuck. im not ready for the plotpoints vol 5 is gonna cover. like i was sobbing last time and now???having all the context???oh its gonna be so much worse isnt it

[ouuuuki]

Two promising generals of Chonghua

Look how beautiful they are!!

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I'm still so sad that Jiang Yexue was such a terrible person

Like Murong Chuyi deserved the world. He was just such a great guy. And his entire life got fucked over cuz Jiang Yexue is a weirdo. I miss him

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I can't grasp the character that is Jiang Yexue. Will there possibly be at least one scene that show us what he's thinking? The work of his mind and emotion. He's a very interesting side character but I feel I don't know him well enough.

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w h a t

jiang yexue being into murong chuyi was not a reveal i saw coming

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Jiang Yexue: Taxian-jun + Chu Wanning’s hobbies

Happy birthday yexue 05.10

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Explicit about sex in Yuwu and Meatbun horniness.

Also Meatbun is unhinged for saying that sometimes Gu Mang would come as he was getting fucked by Mo Xi, by being choked by Murong Lian slave collar, and then had to present himself to Murong Lian as a servant still with come dripping because he didn't have time to wash himself.

That's. Completely uncalled for when there's nothing else going on between them. They're half-brothers???! Meatbun I'm not complaining, that was terrible and very hot at the same time, but godamn. That paragraph hit me on the face with a WHAT.

They end up the series in good terms living together at the academy, as family, what the fuck was that XD

Did Murong Lian really not realise Gu Mang just had sex before going to see him?... Nah he totally knew they were together a some point, the way he knows Mo Xi doesn't really hate Gu Mang since the start of the book and is set on provoking him (to get him custody of GM in purpose perhaps?) shows that so clearly. So the only conclusion is that he was fucking with Gu Mang head on purpose.

I sure hope it wasn't but Murong Lian has always been that bit terrible sooo.

I know it will never come up in conversation in canon but if Gu Mang discovered he had a choking kink because of that I'll die cry-laughing. Poor Gu Mang. Oh Meatbun never change.

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I see a lot of posts comparing Mu Qing from TGCF to Jiang Cheng since they are both protagonists' prickly former best friend with "complicated" reputations, but I think he is also very similar to Jin Guangyao for being a talented person born into a lower class who is never forgiven for having some ambition and pragmatism. Do you also see themes associated with JC and JGY in Mu Qing?

yes yes yes yes!!!

when I was initially re-reading TGCF, I was like well clearly Mu Qing is a JGY re-write, but now that I'm also re-reading MDZS, I think that Mu Qing is re-hashing separate but related elements of both characters.

I think you've got the JGY part down exactly right: he's the mirror JGY, the one who can't cultivate a polite and appealing exterior and who is simultaneously more disdained because he has ambition with no basis (he isn't the illegitimate son of gentry) and less of a threat (because he doesn't secretly have a point about what he deserves). I don't think JGY could ever have gotten where he did if he acted like Mu Qing does, but that's also because his social milieu is way more complicated, and he doesn't have a Xie Lian who can just crash through it and do whatever he wants. Though now that I say that-- like JGY, Mu Qing bears the consequences of someone else's attempted act of generosity, and exposes the limits of one powerful guy's will to include/elevate someone, just like Meng Yao does when he's Nie Mingjue's deputy.

The resonance with Jiang Cheng that really interests me is less his prickly personality and more the narrative/structural traits I've been obsessing over recently, which is to say the way that they are both completely misunderstood not only by the people around them, but as a consequence are extremely misleadingly presented by the narrative itself. Xie Lian understands Mu Qing much better than he lets on, I think, but much like Wei Wuxian post-resurrection, he has reasons to assume the worst of Mu Qing's intentions during the events of canon in a way that he didn't in the past, and that means we get a deliberately warped view of who he is and what he's trying to do, just like with Jiang Cheng. MXTX actually resolves this tension in TGCF, though, and spells out the misunderstandings and lets Mu Qing show his true colors in a way nobody can misunderstand.

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gu mang seeing the plaque in jiang yexue's home covered with dust: that's kinda sus

me, knowing about xueyi: that's VERY sus