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Who Framed Roger Rabbit? (1988). When a cartoon rabbit is accused of murder, he enlists the help of a burnt out private investigator to prove his innocence.
This is just so much better than it has any right to be. Such a terrific homage to Hollywood subgenres - animation and noir - that work together in unexpectedly perfect ways. This was magic to rewatch. 9/10.
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roskirambles · 1 year ago
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(Archive) Animated movie of the day: Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988)
Originally posted: January 10th, 2022 Few animators have contributed so much to the craft as Richard Williams. Writer of The Animator's Survival Kit(an absolute, utter MUST read for any aspiring animator), his dominance of perspective is the stuff of legends. Things you see nowadays animated through the assistance of 3D imagery such as camera shifts in moving environments he could animate by hand. And this exceptional capability was put to the test in one of the most complex animated features ever.
While technically a live action film, this movie has as much if not more animated footage given cartoons are integral to the very plot. Rather loosely based on the much darker "Who Censored Roger Rabbit?" novel, this movie is as much of a classic cartoons fan's biggest fantasy as it was a production nightmare, involving characters from classic Fleischer studios, Tex Avery(aka MGM), Warner Brothers and Disney. And it incorporates them in the real world interacting with humans. With a moving camera and scene appropriate lighting. Even with today's technology that is one daunting task, let alone with traditional compositing techniques(Jessica Rabbit's dress was one particular headache).
But of course, impeccable animation and fanservice to animation enthusiasts can only do so much for a film. Fortunately, this movie does have a backbone to it's zany antics. Playing half a buddy cop film, half a noir film, it presents a compelling enough crime mystery that also involves a surprisingly human protagonist in Eddie(and not just because he's an actual person). Bob Hoskins manages to thread the balance between the comedy and the genuinely tragic backstory of his character, making the seemingly absurd premise work. Same goes for Cristopher Lloyd. He's a lovable goofball as Emmet Brown, but here he's genuinely terrifying.
While a resounding success, given that stars had to align to even make this film possible at all, we'll never see something like it again.
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stuff-diary · 2 years ago
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Who Framed Roger Rabbit
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Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988, USA)
Director: Robert Zemeckis
Writers: Jeffrey Price & Peter S. Seaman (based on the book by Gary K. Wolf)
Mini-review:
Look, I know this movie is a classic and it has had a huge impact on pop culture, but for some reason, I never got around to watching it. Until last night. And now I regret not watching it sooner. Who Framed Roger Rabbit is funny, thrilling and surprising. It was released almost 40 years ago, and yet, it still feels astoundingly groundbreaking. In a way, it made me realize that production values have gotten seriously worse in recent movies. Here, all the sets and costumes look gorgeous and completely real. You can tell they barely used green screens (except for the Toontown scenes, obviously). Sure, some of the interactions between the live-action actors and the animated characters look a bit iffy, but all things considered, they managed to pull off a pretty crazy concept that shouldn't work as well as it does here. My only complain is that sometimes I couldn't understand what the animated characters were saying, but it might have been because of my TV or the D+ platform, I don't know. So, I loved this and I'm glad I finally watched it.
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adamwatchesmovies · 2 years ago
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Shrek the Third (2007)
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While I didn't enjoy this film, that doesn't mean you won't. No matter what I say, the people involved in this project did it: they actually made a movie. That's something to be applauded. With that established...
The drop in quality between Shrek 2 and Shrek the Third is so steep you'll wonder why anyone bothered. There’s nothing inspired here in terms of plot, character development, humour or even pop-culture references. It’s a devastating letdown that disappoints more the longer you watch.
King Harold (John Cleese) is dying and names Shrek (Mike Myers) and Princess Fiona (Cameron Diaz) as his successors. Convinced an ogre will be unfit to rule the kingdom of Far Far Away, Shrek decides to track down her cousin, Arthur “Artie” Pendragon (Justin Timberlake). With the help of Donkey (Mike Myers) and Puss in Boots (Antonio Banderas), our swamp-loving hero is off, but not before Fiona reveals she is pregnant. Meanwhile, a washed-up Prince Charming (Rupert Everett) vows revenge.
The story by Andrew Adamson - adapted by Jeffrey Price, Peter S. Seaman, Chris Miller and Aron Warner - is so flawed I don’t know if there was any salvaging it. By and large, it’s really just the same plot as the original film. Shrek and Donkey - plus Puss - have to find a royal and bring them to a castle so Shrek can get his swamp back the way he wants it to be. Oh sure, there are slight differences. Obviously Artie doesn’t fall in love with the green meanie the way Fiona did but they do have that big “lover’s quarrel” scene once true intentions are revealed.
What you essentially get is Shrek but without anything that made it magical. The characters aren’t fresh the way they were before. Worse, the well of fairytale-based jokes has been drained dry, leaving this movie with few opportunities to make you laugh. I know you could argue whether Red Riding Hood or the Three Blind Mice really fit the fairy tales motif but King Arthur? Sans excalibur and with only a couple of lame scenes where an exaggerated, incompetent and loopy Merlin (Eric Idle) appears? It feels completely out of place.
Tonally, director Chris Miller misses the mark so thoroughly it's almost like it's on purpose. The first scene has a humiliated Prince Charming mourning his now-dead mother. Next a parade of scenes of Shrek grumbling about how much he hates Far Far Away and how much he doesn’t want to rule. He then finds an excuse to abandon his wife so he can pawn the kingdom off on some schmo he’s never met. In no time, you're sympathizing with the villain rather than the hero. Yes, Charming turns out to be malicious but it feels like the character was re-written to be the antagonist. From what we saw previously, there was nothing to indicate he had any volition of his own; he was just a mama’s boy raised to believe he should rule. Couldn’t Fiona wear the crown? How about the still-living Queen? What if Artie had been this megalomaniac who, after obtaining power, used it to get revenge on everyone who bullied him at high school? Shrek would’ve come off as an even bigger jerk than he already is.
Even the choice of songs doesn’t feel right. Whereas Livin’ La Vida Loca, I’m Holding out for a Hero and All-Star in Shreks 1 & 2 either subverted your expectations in a novel way, drove the story forward through non-litteral music, or both, there’s nothing about the short clip of Immigrant Song and the cover of Live of Let Die during the royal funeral that comes close. Where’s the wit? Where are the unusual choices that don't seem to fit on paper, but in execution work so well?
I doubt anyone who saw Shrek the Third upon its original release remembers it. They might remember some of what happens, but the way the movie made you feel? No way. That’s because this comedy has no heart. It’s diet water served after two classic animated comedies. I’d say I hated it, but that's incendiary, passionate - too good for Shrek The Third. The people behind the scenes knew this movie would be a hit so they rushed out a mediocre product because they knew they could. (On DVD, August 9, 2019)
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price-is-dreamy · 4 months ago
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starsm00n · 6 months ago
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Older men do it better.
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amelia-mariee · 5 months ago
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agents of shield characters i didn’t like / didn’t trust, and then right as i started to like them they were killed and i got mad (s1-s4 spoilers)
- victoria hand
- raina
- rosalind price
- lincoln
- jeffrey mace
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padraicratigan · 23 hours ago
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How Basil Saved Disney Feature Animation
This is a two part article written for MousePlanet by Jim Korkis in 2011. Part 1 can be found here and Part 2 can be found here.
Part One:
The first Disney animated feature greenlit for production by the new Disney management team of Michael Eisner, Frank Wells and Jeffrey Katzenberg was not The Little Mermaid, but a charming, often neglected little film titled The Great Mouse Detective. It saved the future of Disney feature animation.
The idea of doing an animated film about Sherlock Holmes in animal form was first talked about during the making of The Rescuers (1977). At one point, it was considered making the character a dog detective. Joe Hale is credited with bringing up the Eve Titus book series about a mouse version of Sherlock Holmes, but it was felt at the time that it was too close to The Rescuers since they would both be about mouse detectives.
“Basil of Baker Street” is a children’s book series of five books written between 1971 and 1982 by Titus and illustrated by Paul Galdone. The stories focus on the adventures of the great mouse detective named Basil (named after actor Basil Rathbone, famous for his film portrayals of Sherlock Holmes, although in one Arthur Conan Doyle story Holmes does use the alias “Basil”) who lives beneath the residence of Sherlock Holmes and solves crimes. He is accompanied by his friend and biographer, a mouse named Dr. Dawson (an homage to Holmes’ Dr. Watson). The primary villain is Professor Ratigan (a tribute to Holmes’ Dr. Moriarty), a bulky mouse sometimes mistaken for a rat.
By 1980, some of the Disney animators were unhappy with the direction The Black Cauldron was heading so it was discussed starting another unit to work on another film. “Basil of Baker Street” seemed the best possibility.
Director John Musker laughed, “We threw out most of what was in the books.” In fact, except for the setting of Victorian London and the three major characters, there is no evidence of any of Titus’s work. Ratigan was transformed into an actual rat who is trying to blend into the mouse community. Basil became an accomplished violin player, unlike his musically challenged literary counterpart. Dr. Dawson instead of being the intelligent, resourceful character of the book became a well meaning bumbler.
The Disney story takes place in 1897 London. Innovative mouse toymaker Hiram Flaversham is kidnapped by a peg-legged bat named Fidget who is the henchman for Professor Ratigan. Ratigan intends for the toymaker to make a clockwork robot doppelganger of Queen Moustoria to replace her as part of his heinous plan to become supreme ruler of all Mousedom.
Flaversham’s young daughter, Olivia, seeks the aid of Basil and Dr. Dawson to rescue her father. After many harrowing adventures, including a trip to the rowdy waterfront tavern “The Rat Trap,” an escape from an elaborate spring loaded Rube Goldberg style mousetrap and a final nail biting confrontation at the top of the Big Ben clock tower, Basil defeats Ratigan, rescues the Flavershams and the Queen and is off on yet another adventure about a missing ring.
The film basically became a simple homage to a traditional Sherlock Holmes story with little touches of James Bond and Alfred Hitchcock. Yet the story floundered for years with ten different credited storymen contributing conflicting ideas in search of solid foundation.
Olivia was going to be older and a potential love interest for Basil (or even the infatuated Dr. Dawson at one point). Producer Ron Miller declared that she be made a little girl to garner the audience’s sympathy. A seedy stool pigeon who hung around Buckingham Palace and would be an informant for Basil ended up being eliminated, forcing Basil to find all the information himself.
Several scenes were dropped, including an early morning return of Basil and Dawson on the back of Toby the bloodhound after the toyshop chase. As a lamplighter doused the street gaslights one by one, Henry Mancini had composed a heartfelt background score where the chimes of Big Ben underscored each extinguished flame.
It is not unusual for scenes and characters to be developed for a Disney animated feature and then later cut, but, for this film, the reason for the eliminations were more financial than creative. Moments of reflection were sacrificed for greater pacing.
Burny Mattinson and John Musker were assigned as the original directors and then Dave Michener came on as another director. Disney President and CEO Ron Miller had been the producer for the film, but when Eisner and Wells came in, Miller was out. Roy E. Disney made Mattinson the producer/director, but Burny was getting swamped by all the work that needed to be done in both roles so he decided to focus primarily on the producing chores. Musker and Michener were the directors, but with all the added work with the shortened production schedule, Ron Clements came on board as yet another director.
Clements remembered, “I was always interested in Sherlock Holmes. That was how I got my job at Disney. I had done a little 15-minute animated film on Holmes.”
Over three years of work had been done on the project when there was a transition in management at Disney and the entire film had to be re-pitched to the new team to get approval for continuation. There were some story outlines, character sketches, a little animation and lots of storyboards. To make matters worse, Eisner very vocally admitted that he found the storyboard process confusing.
John Musker and Ron Clements and Burny Mattinson went through three or four “outline” storyboards pinned with drawings and a story reel at a meeting with Roy E. Disney, Eisner and Katzenberg. Katzenberg asked a lot of questions about the story and especially the relationship between Basil and Sherlock Holmes. Clements stated that this project was “going back to what animation really is supposed to be.”
Eisner suggested that Michael Jackson might do the song in the bar scene. His suggestion was met with an uncomfortable silence and Eisner withdrew the suggestion. Later, Eisner proposed that Madonna do the song.
For the scene, songwriter Henry Mancini had written a parody of a Victorian British Music Hall type of tune titled “Are You the One Who Loves Me?” It was already in rough animation with the song recorded by Shani Wallis, familiar for her work in the musical “Oliver!” (Wallis also supplies the voice for the Lady Mouse at the very end of the film.) Katzenberg didn’t like it because he felt the kids in the audience wouldn’t like it because it was not contemporary enough.
The new management team was looking for songs to break into the popular market to give the film more exposure. Mancini rewrote the song and it was still considered unacceptable. This film marked his debut composing of an animated feature though his earlier score for The Pink Panther movie is closely associated with the animated character in the opening credits.
“It’s different working with these little figures up there rather than people,” Mancini remarked. “Everything goes so fast. The pacing, the story, just zips along.”
Singer Melissa Manchester was brought in and wrote and sang the upbeat “Let Me Be Good To You” (originally titled “Look at Me”) for the pub scene. She was chosen in part because, in 1985, she had become the first artist in the history of the Academy Awards to have recorded and popularized two of the nominated movie themes in a given year for “Ice Castles” and “The Promise” besides being a multiple Grammy Award winner. The rough animation had to be re-timed and sometimes re-animated to fit the new words and rhythm. However, this new song did not result in the desired crossover success.
“Writing a song for a character in a film like this is a wonderful and delightful departure from writing an anonymous love song for a record,” Manchester commented.
On the next Disney animated feature, Oliver and Company, Eisner and Katzenberg brought in contemporary musical artists like Billy Joel and Bette Midler.
After the three-hour pitch meeting, Eisner walked back to his office and talked to Katzenberg to get his opinion. Katzenberg said, “We have 175 people and we are paying them everyday to come in to work. We are going to pay them whether they make the movie or they don’t make this movie so I guess we ought to make the movie.”
However, that joy that the film had been approved felt by the animators soon turned to dread when it was stipulated that the film needed to be done by July 1986, not Christmas 1987 as originally planned, and at less than half the budget of The Black Cauldron.
Animation began in earnest in the fall of 1984, meaning there was less than a year and a half to complete the film. Originally it was a 90-minute film but, because of budgetary reasons, it had to be cut to 74 minutes with a simple, tighter story and a smaller cast of characters, as well as some shortcuts in animation.
When The Black Cauldron came out in July 1985, it did not excite an audience and was perceived as a box office failure. In March 1985, the first “Care Bears” animated film was released and made about the same amount of money at the box office as “Cauldron” would but at a minimum production budget. (The Black Cauldron would eventually recover its production costs as well as a tidy profit but even today, it is considered the film that almost killed Disney animation.)
“The lesson to be learned from The Black Cauldron is an economic lesson. If you are going to fail, don’t fail at such a high cost,” Eisner said. “I am a big believer in allowing the people that work for you to know that they can fail and it’s not going to be a problem. But if they fail without any sense of economic responsibility, I’m going to be a little upset.”
At the Disney Studio, animators were scared about the future of Disney animation, especially with rumors that Eisner felt there were enough animated films in the vaults for years of profitable re-releases without producing new material. A Christmas 1985 re-release of 101 Dalmatians (its third theatrical re-release) brought in thirty-three million dollars making it the most successful reissue in the company’s then sixty-three year history.
In fact, within months of production starting on The Great Mouse Detective, the animation staff was moved out of the original animation building on the Burbank studio lot that was designed specifically for animators and relocated to a converted warehouse in an unsavory part of Glendale, fueling more rumors about the forthcoming end of theatrical animation.
“We have to show the new management that we can make them [animated features] cheaper and faster and yet do them in the classic Disney way,” Clements said.
“The Black Cauldron was a lengthy project and cost quite a bit of money,” Mattinson said. “Our people realize there’s something on the line about this film and they have responded to that,”
“The foundations of Disney are likeable characters in a good story and The Great Mouse Detective has that,” Musker said.
An early approach to the character of Basil was to mirror the cold-hearted manic attitude of the literary Sherlock Holmes. Miller felt that version was “not likeable” so the animation team attempted a more mellow “Bing Crosby” approach that also was not successful. Rob Minkoff revealed that actor Leslie Howard’s portrayal of Henry Higgins in the film “Pygmalion” was an inspiration as was the voice work by Barrie Ingham who had performed with The Royal Shakespeare Company.
“Playing Basil is just as thrilling to me as playing a lead in The Royal Shakespeare Company,” Ingham said. “I found Basil to be surprisingly sensitive. He is terribly egocentric but in the end, it is his sensitivity that prevents him from being bombastic and overbearing. He has a lot of frenetic energy which made his character quite a challenge.”
“Veteran British actor Barrie Ingham was cast for the voice of Basil because his interpretation of the character established his whole attitude and gave us the perfect timing and movements,” animator Minkoff said.
“We didn’t want to make them simply miniature versions of Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce,” Clements affirmed. “Dawson’s not a buffoon. He’s a foil for Basil but also a warm and caring person.”
Dr. David Q. Dawson, voiced by actor and teacher Val Bettin, was not fashioned after actor Nigel Bruce’s portrayal of Dr. Watson, but on Disney Legend Eric Larson. Larson was in charge of the animation training program at the studio for years and many of his former students worked on the film. He was an animation consultant on the film meaning that animators were encouraged to bring their scenes to him for review. Mattinson had spent 12 years as Larson’s assistant and was thankful to have Larson’s suggestions in this deadline situation.
“There were striking parallels between Larson and the character of Dr. Dawson,” said animator Glen Keane, “They’re both kind-spirited and have gentle personalities. We used some of Eric’s mannerisms for the character. Even the way Dawson wears his pants pulled-up over his belly came from Eric.”
Eric Larson expressed his concerns about the production to animation historian John Culhane in a July 27, 1986 New York Times interview. Larson stated that in the past, Walt would always buy the animators extra time until something clicked and the characters came to life.
“When the new management sets such a schedule and such a budget, is the animator going to have enough time to explore and study to do research on the characters and experimental animation? Time to throw away something he or she feels doesn’t work and try again? Are they going to allow time for that?
“Walt always figured that if we had a good product, somehow or other, we’ll get our money. But when money is the first thing on the docket, it can only lead to mediocrity, and that’s what I worry about.”
“Ratigan was one of the characters we really didn’t have a handle on. Then I remembered this film I always liked, Champagne for Caesar. In it, Vincent Price was this outrageously funny bigger-than-life cad. We knew he was our guy,” Mattinson said.
According to Keane, the lead animator on Ratigan, the animators had first looked at the film to study Ronald Colman’s performance as a possible model for the character of Basil: “Vincent played the villain in the movie and as soon as he came on, we realized that we had found the perfect actor for the role. His expressive voice and attitude inspired us to further redesign the character.”
Keane was in a story meeting for the film when Miller turned up to look at the storyboards. Miller, a 6-foot 6-inch tall ex-football player for the Los Angeles Rams, was a very large, imposing figure and his physical presence tended to intimidate some people. Keane felt this same awesome strength and power mixed with charisma would be a perfect contrast to the smaller Basil. That original caricature was toned down somewhat and the final version also showed influences of Price’s vocal characterization.
“I loved doing this part,” affirmed Price who had done the narration for Disney’s short “Vincent” (1982) directed by Tim Burton. “I was absolutely in a state of terror because I didn’t know what they wanted. Ratigan was a great challenge because I was part of the creative process. The filmmakers showed me hundreds of drawings and gave me the freedom to expand on that. It was a reciprocal experience. They enjoyed my interpretation and I thought theirs was brilliant.”
The evil Ernst Blofeld in the James Bond movies always stroked a big white Persian pussycat. So, the storymen decided to give Ratigan one, as well, even though it was huge in comparison to the already massive rat. The animators claimed their inspiration for the smug and slightly overweight cat was actress Elizabeth Taylor in her later years.
For the part of Olivia, an 8-year old girl named Susanne Pollatschek was selected over hundreds of other applicants. Because vocal parts are recorded separately, Ingham, who portrayed Basil, still has never met her in person. In fact, the first time Ingham met Vincent Price was at the premiere for the film.
“We wound up finding a little girl in Glasgow, Scotland,” Mattinson said. “We recorded Susanne Pollatschek in London. She had no formal training but did a beautiful job.”
The role of Olivia’s father, Hiram, was affable actor Alan Young who had recently demonstrated his ability to do an authentic Scottish brogue when he voiced the character of Scrooge McDuck in the 1983 featurette Mickey’s Christmas Carol directed by Mattinson.
Candy Candido who voiced Fidget the broken-winged, peg-legged bat had previous Disney voice experience in films like Peter Pan (the Indian Chief), Sleeping Beauty (Malificent’s goons) and Robin Hood (the Constable). As Fidget, his natural low gravelly tones were sped up to make him less threatening. Candido’s original voice can be heard as the mouse shouting “Get off, you eight-legged bum!” at the juggling octopus in the Rat Trap bar.
Cleverly, the film includes a very brief cameo of the famous shadow of Sherlock Holmes. The voice may sound familiar, as well. That is the voice of actor Basil Rathbone from a reading of the Sherlock Holmes story “The Adventure of the Red-Headed League” for Caedmon Records in 1966. He did four volumes of Holmes stories for Caedmon before his death in 1967. There were financial disagreements about using a snippet of this recording so Disney had an actor recording the lines in a Rathbone style of delivery until an almost last minute agreement was reached.
The use of the record is the explanation for why Nigel Bruce’s voice is not heard as Dr. Watson since he regrettably died in 1953. The voice of Dr. Watson in the brief cameo is Laurie Main who was not only the story reader on several Disney Read-A-Long book cassettes but had performed in a handful of other Disney animated and live-action projects (including later providing the voice for the Sultan in the Aladdin television series).
Next Time: The Conclusion to the story, including the challenges of early computer animation with a disastrous computer meltdown, an embarrassing but hilarious memo, why Roy E. Disney had to pay for the costumed characters of Basil and Ratigan at Disneyland, why the film owes a debt to Hayao Miyazkai and much, much more. Stay vigilant until then because the game’s afoot!
Part Two:
As I mentioned in part one (link) “The Great Mouse Detective” was rushing to completion in 1985 and the fate of Disney feature animation was in the balance.
Could inexperienced and unproven young animators like Andreas Deja, Mark Henn, Glen Keane, Ruben Aquino, David Pruiksma, Ed Gombert, David Pacheco, Rob Minkoff, Tony Anselmo, Mark Dindal Toby Shelton and other then unfamiliar names working with four different equally inexperienced directors complete a Disney animated feature in a seemingly impossible lack of time?
Director Ron Clements told the press: “The idea was to make it different from The Rescuers, because there are no humans involved in the story at all. It’s an adventure that takes place in a miniature world hidden away from our own. We wanted to do it totally in this miniature mouse world. Humans are in this story only as backdrops.”
Actually, because of economic cutbacks in budgets the mice often seemed like backdrops as well. In the waterfront dive, The Rat Trap, the mice customers in the background are motionless, frozen as if in a painting. A scene of Basil and Dawson scampering through a convoluted pipe system chasing Fidget the bat is accomplished not by showing the characters, but by the camera panning over the background painting of the outside of the pipe.
Continuity errors abound in the film with objects like hats, costumes, props and more appearing and disappearing with alarming frequency, obviously, as a result of the shortened production schedule. Gaps in story logic were glossed over by a breakneck pace that left little time from one scene to another.
In those early days, it was hoped that computer animation might be a faster and less expensive alternative to time consuming traditional animation. The first use of compute- assisted animation in a Disney animated feature was in The Black Cauldron, although it was never promoted as part of the publicity. However, part of the marketing for The Great Mouse Detective was its two minute scene with computer animation.
Layout artist Mike Peraza was a fan of Hayo Miyazkai’s animated feature Castle of Cagliostro, which features a climatic scene of the characters amidst giant turning gears and a clock tower. Originally, the finale of The Great Mouse Detective was to take place on the hands of Big Ben with Ratigan eventually falling to his demise. Peraza approached director John Musker with the idea of restaging the fight so that the final confrontation would break through the face of Big Ben with the grinding clockwork gears providing added menace to the diminutive mice. Musker agreed and that eventually led to the use of an early version of computer animation.
“We were having a bit of a time locating photographs of specific area in Big Ben and other things we needed for the film,” explained Peraza in a publicity interview in October 1984. “The trouble was that no one makes tour brochures of London and surrounding scenic areas from a viewpoint six inches (mouse height) from the ground. These scenes had to be referenced on site from a mouse’s own unusual point of view.”
Eva Redfern, who managed the Disney Studios branch in London, sent pictures from the Department of the Interior, but they didn’t reveal the angles that were needed.
“The pictures we received were always from a human point of view. We found ourselves asking more and more questions about what different areas looked like from various angles,” Peraza said.
Peraza begged for the opportunity to visit the interior of Big Ben to get the needed reference, but kept getting turned down because there were no public tours through Big Ben for a variety of reason.
Finally, after repeated requests, Peraza received a phone call: “It must have been midnight London time, and it’s Eva saying ‘well, we’ve set it all up for you. Can you come some time in May?”
The tour was arranged through the Resident Engineer over the House of Parliament (the department responsible for the maintenance of all government buildings in London and the Commonwealth). Big Ben is considered part of the Palace of Westminister. Peraza and his wife visited London to film the reference footage, not only in Big Ben, but in other areas where Basil and his friends would visit.
For the Big Ben trip, the Perazas hauled heavy video equipment (in those days, the camera and the recording device were each separate and large and bulky) up seemingly endless stairs to behind the face of the milky white glass face of the famous clock. As they made their trek upward, they discovered that the entire tower would vibrate significantly every time the bells would chime.
“We found out a lot of things when we visited Big Ben, like what the clock hands were made of,” Peraza said. “This helps when you’re drawing hands close up. We’re going to have shots where the camera will be in very close to the face. Here the correct detail can make the difference in the believability of the setting. It’s such a famous landmark that if you cheat it, I think people will feel cheated. If you do a thorough job and get the accuracy when you can, but then have to exaggerate something for artistic license or to make something more dramatic then you’d at least have a good foundation to draw from.”
The Perazas got to visit the bell chamber itself, but only had roughly 10 minutes to take photographs and film video because the bells would chime on the quarter hour. They did wear earmuffs and that helped somewhat. Video and photographs were taken of the inside, outside and around Big Ben. However, those pictures had to be taken at mouse level so the Perazas would often be lying down on the ground.
That same unique way of photographing was duplicated at other locations from Buckingham Palace to the Tower Bridge to the waterfront district of the East End of London.
Returning to his second floor work area in the Animation Building in California, Mike Peraza decorated it with many of the sketches and photos (and wind up toys and dolls) that he obtained in London. In addition, he built a 1/24th scale model of the Big Ben clock tower that was on a desk in the corner of his room.
Through his friendship with Dave English, who he worked with on some multiplane shots for films for Epcot, Peraza met Lem Davis and Tad Gielow at WED Imagineering. Together they plotted drawings (inputting the data on a keyboard in those days before a mouse) for the clock gears. They used mechanical drawings made at the machine shop on the Disney backlot to get the correct reference for the inputting.
Taking the colored line plots and putting character animation poses on top of them convinced the new management to take a chance on this radical new concept of combining computer-generated images with hand-drawn animation.
The final two minute geometric background maze of clockwork gears was the work of Tad Gielow with character animation by Phil Nibbelink.
“Gielow and I were locked in the same room for months, slaving over a hot computer,” Nibbelink shared with interviewer Steve Biodrowski in 1986. “And then it is going to go through the projector in the twinkling of an eye. At one point we left the computer running overnight because we were in such a production crunch. Some janitor thought he was doing us a favor and closed the door. In the morning it was like a 1,000 degrees in this hot box. The computer had completely self destructed. Of course it had forgotten what we had meticulously programmed into it. Fortunately we had it all on paper so we had to sit there and type it back in.”
“This sequence represents a hybrid of what the computer does best and what animators does best,” stated Nibbelink in publicity material for the film. “A computer is adept at creating precise, geometric shapes or inanimate objects. If an animator tries to draw a gear or a car of a house, it’s imperfect. What we do best is fluid organic character animation. By combining the two, we get the best of both worlds and hopefully create a more believable and exciting world for the characters to interact in.”
“We have completely rebuilt the inside of the Big Ben clock with the help of our new computers,” Nibbelink said. “With traditional animation, we would have been forced to stick with a single moving trajectory, from left to right. The computer, however, has given us the possibility to perform a rotary motion around the clock mechanism. For the first time we were able to simulate the indoor notion of space; the ‘camera’ was floating in a space above the wheels and was capturing the characters in action. We printed the computer animation of the wheels on special pieces of paper, which were then photocopied onto cells and later colored the traditional way. We tried to color them on the computer, but there was a too great a difference between the computer result and the rest of the film.”
At one point there were 54 moving gears, winches, ratchets, beams and pulleys in the scene. Nibbelink and Gielow spent months designing the interior of Big Ben, building a room in the computer’s brain with each gear represented digitally as a set of radiuses, diameters, distances and lengths. Nibbelink was able to use a joystick control mechanism to zero-in on any specified location.
“To paint the whole thing would have been a horrific job, so all we paint is highlights and half-tones,” he continued. “The bulk of the color you are seeing through the cel to a color card.” Nibbelink recalled. “I would draw the characters in grease pencil right on the TV monitor and line the room up to fit the drawing. One of the biggest tricks was to make the feet look like they’re constantly planted. If you look very carefully, on some scenes we blew it. I’m a little worried whether it will mesh or not. We’re hoping it’ll be OK, because it’s night and there’s lot of lightning flashes so everything’s pretty surrealistic.”
With great confidence, Nibbelink concluded 25 years ago, “It is improbable that computers will ever be able to create the kind of personality-oriented character animation that Disney artists have mastered, largely because the animator is actually the actor who supplies the emotional core with his own timing and imagination. However, The Great Mouse Detective offers evidence of just how helpful a tool computers can be.”
Geometric shaped objects like cityscapes, cars, buses, bridges, sewer pipes and a piano were created for the next film, Oliver and Company. By the way, the same basic technique was also used for the schools of fish, Prince Eric’s carriage and Ursula’s fleet of ships in The Little Mermaid.
The film got some unintentionally embarrassing publicity before its release. Disney leadership was nervous and wanted to distance the film from Steven Spielberg’s Paramount film, Young Sherlock Holmes (1985), that failed to ignite the boxoffice. Disney kept insisting that the animators remove anything that was too British and, at one point, considered re-dubbing the film with American accents for the United States release. The primary poster featured Basil swinging in the air in a regular suit, not his deerstalker cap and his long Inverness coat that would call to mind the Sherlock Holmes connection.
Disney marketing claimed that testing with children confirmed that The Great Mouse Detective was a stronger title than “Basil of Baker Street” that reportedly sounded “too British for American kids”.
The animators came up with a fake memo falsely credited to vice president of Disney Feature Animation Peter Schneider that lampooned the new generic title for the film. The fabled memo stated that other Disney classics would also be renamed including “Seven Little Men Help a Girl” (for Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs), “Color and Music” (for Fantasia), “The Wonderful Elephant Who Could Really Fly” (for Dumbo), “Two Dogs Fall In Love” (for Lady and the Tramp) and “The Girl with the See Through Shoes” (for Cinderella).
To add to the gag, the only title that wasn’t changed on the list was The Aristocats. A copy was leaked to the Los Angeles Times and upper management was furious and held what some called an “inquisition” to try and identify the offender. While everyone on the crew knew the author, they never revealed his true name. The memo’s contents even ended up as a category on the game show Jeopardy.
In retaliation, as well as the belief the film would be a failure, a good deal of support and marketing effort were withdrawn from the initial release of the feature. Roy E. Disney personally provided the funds needed to develop the costumed “meet and greet” characters from the film for the Disney theme parks. So, only Basil and Ratigan were brought to life under the coordination of costume designer Alyja Kalinich.
“Unlike an animated movie where a character’s facial expressions can change any time, our in-Park characters must communicate a variety of feelings with one expression and without the use of a speaking voice,” Kalinich stated. “The challenge was to make these characters look like what the animator created and bring them to three-dimensional life. What I like most about this project is that Basil and Ratigan are from a new animated release, which to me, is very exciting.”
The finished characters had to be approved by Roy E. Disney, as well as Mattinson, Musker, Clements and Michener.
When it was released on July 2, 1986 as the 26th Disney animated feature, The Great Mouse Detective budgeted at $12 million  brought in $24 million, as well as some laudatory reviews praising the film as a charming addition to the Disney classics. Oddly, for the film’s later re-releases, it was re-titled The Adventures of the Great Mouse Detective.
For the moment, the future of Disney feature animation was saved. However, it wasn’t a perfect happy ending. Four months later in November, An American Tail, directed by Don Bluth was released and it became the highest-grossing non-Disney animated film in history at that time, eventually beating The Great Mouse Detective by $22 million.
“The fact is, for this company [Disney], animation has a value that is way beyond the specific profits that you measure for a film itself,” said Katzenberg in 1986. “We create new characters, these characters will come to life in our theme parks and in our merchandising, and have a longevity and a value in many other aspects of this corporation that are totally unique.”
While still in production on The Great Mouse Detective, director Ron Clements brought to the Disney animation Gong Show a proposal to do The Little Mermaid. At first, Eisner and Katzenberg were hesitant because they felt it might be too close to the live-action film Splash, but reading Clements more upbeat approach to the well known fairy tale convinced them to take a chance.
If not for The Great Mouse Detective, there may never have been The Little Mermaid or Beauty and the Beast and a renaissance in Disney feature animation.
The animators obviously had great fun working on the film. On the shelves of the human toy shop are some interesting toys, including a Dumbo that blows bubbles from his trunk and a loud mechanical band modeled after the infamous Firehouse Five. The first map that Basil pulls out to look at briefly has in the upper right hand corner a location marked “Downtown Burbank.” The voodoo doll of Basil that Ratigan uses is based after the design of Basil done by the book illustrator Paul Galdone.
If nothing else, hopefully this article will inspire some readers with an idle hour or so to pop it into the DVD and watch the film that saved Disney feature animation. It is a diverting and satisfying little film that accomplished what it needed to do and is definitely deserving of another look.
If you are fascinated by the story of The Great Mouse Detective, two great sites to visit are Mike Peraza’s “Memories of the House of Mouse” (link) and this delightful site “The Game’s Afoot!” (link)
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Jeffrey Lynn-Martha Scott "Extraño suceso" (Strange bergain) 1949, de Will Price.
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Vincent Price as Dr. Phibes”
1. One of Vincent Price’s greatest roles was in “The Abominable Dr. Phibes” (1971). In it he played a brilliant artist and scientist who was horribly disfigured and thought dead as he raced back to London to see his wife. She was undergoing a life and death operation which, alas, she died. Phibes swore revenge on the 10 doctors and nurses who participated in the surgery.
2. Phibes murder spree was inspired by the Ten Plagues of Egypt from the Old Testament. Each was more gruesome than the last, but they were all done with panache. Phibes was assisted by Vulnavia (a beautiful but silent young woman) and he was accompanied by a stylish life-size clock work band.
3. After neatly eliminating all his targets, Phibes evaded capture by laying down in a hidden double sized coffin with his wife body.
4. Dr. Phibes (and Price) rose again in the 1972 sequel. After a few years of literally laying low, he returned so that he could bring his wife’s body to Egypt and resurrect her via ancient secrets he had discovered. Somehow Vulnavia returned to assist him again (even tho she died in the last movie).
5. But Phibes’ Egyptian cure-all is also sought by Darius Biederbeck (Robert Quarry) who is suffering with a kind of Dorian Grey type curse. Quarry is best known for his Count Yorga movies (Dracula knock-offs).
6. Sooner than you can say cruise-ship, the adversaries are headed off to Egypt, with Phibes leaving a trail of victims behind him.
7. The cast included three actors from the original. Peter Jeffrey returned as Inspecter Trout. After a few odd murder victim are found, Trout suspects Phibes has returned when he learned the cruise ship’s cargo included a life-size clock work band. Terry-Thomas returns in a new role (his character was exsanguinated in the first film). And Hugh Griffith who survived the first film but not so the second.
8. Although I enjoyed seeing Price as Phibes, the sequel didn’t reach the heights of the original. In the first, Phibes was driven by revenge, with a clearly set list of victims. That helped drive the plot. He also had clever ways of killing via the ten plagues of Egypt - so you could wonder or anticipate how he would accomplish the next.
9. But in the sequel, those key elements were gone, and while some of the murderer were inventive, they were just a series of people who got in his way.
10. A third Phibes movie was discussed but It didn’t help that Quarry and Price didn’t get along during production. It was reported that one day, Quarry was singing in his dressing room and he asked Price:
Quarry: "You didn't know I could sing did you?"
Price replied: “Well I knew you couldn't act."
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American Fiction was outstanding by the way. I am not an unbiased party; "writers writing about writing" and "fucked up family who loves each other but can't communicate" are my catnip and kryptonite, respectively. But it's so, so good and I would happily watch it again in the theater (which I am going to force my mother to do with me because the lead character is, like her, the sole writer in a family full of doctors). If this is Cord Jefferson's first film I can't wait to see what he'll do next. Please please please go see this movie, I want nothing more than for it to be a runaway hit at the box office.
P.S. Sterling K. Brown stole absolutely every scene he was in which is incredible if you are sharing a screen with Jeffrey fucking Wright (who was also, as always, a pure delight to watch). And John Ortiz is a leading man TO ME.
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its-a-geeks-world · 2 years ago
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Neil Druckmann: Hey original actors from the game, why don't you cameo on the show?
Original actors from the game: Sure, it'll be fun
Neil Druckmann: Well...
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