#jasico wlw

[thinkingjasico]

Ok so I don't have other mutuals into PJO but I must confess I've been thinking about a scenario. Gender bend Jasico with Nico as the scary goth girl and Jason/Julia being the local prom queen and they maybe are roommates and fall in love. Have I watched the wicked trailer 200 times? Mayhaps. But I just think it kinda fits them, and I love to make my faves lesbians so. Yeah.

I love this! It also makes me think of an coffee shop AU!

Nico is a barista at this very charming café on campus. She's always very quiet; studying or reading on the other side of the counter when the café is not very busy. Julia always has a million things to do during the day, so she lives off coffee and has been a regular custumer there since her first year in college, until now, in Julia's second year, Nico starts working there and Julia not only becomes terrifyingly fascinated by her, but also obsessed with the playlists Nico puts on during her shift. Julia seems very confident to others, but in reality she's not at all confident about these things; which means that for the entire first semester that year all she said to Nico was: “good afternoon”, “an espresso, please” and “thank you” . She ventured to comment on the rain once, but Nico didn't hear with the noise of the coffee machine, so Julia didn't venture to say anything more.

But when the winter break arrives, Julia's roommate tells her that from January she won't be able to live with her anymore because she's moving in with her girlfriend (Piper and Annabeth? Who knows…).

The problem is: Julia has to share the rent. The person who helps her with the bills, since she has a full scholarship to college, is her older sister Thalia--- who never went to college but has her own business, and neither of the girls has any relationship with their parents. Also, Julia hates the college dorms because she had a horrible experience living there in her first month of college. Her roommate was always taking boys there and ignored her requests to stop doing that, so Thalia said she could pay half of a cheap rent for her, so she could concentrate on her studies (I don't even need to say that for Thalia, Julia is the most perfect creature ever to walk the earth and she would kill and die for her sister to have a good life and not have to go through the things she went through).

Anyway, she's desperate and put up notices all over the college buildings, because if she doesn't find someone to share her apartment, she'll have to move out at the beginning of January. But the campus is practically empty, it's unbearably cold and she should have gone to California to spend the end of the year with her sister already. She goes to the café, upset and anxious, and for the first time she doesn't think about Nico as soon as she walks through the door. Instead of going straight to the counter, she sits down at a table in the corner of the empty café, takes off her wet coat and beanie and leaves her flyers on the table. She's reaching for her cell phone to text Thalia and tell her she won't be able to travel until she's sorted this out; when a cup is placed on the table. She looks up and sees that it's an espresso. She looks up more and sees that Nico is standing there, with her long, black, wavy, voluminous hair tucked behind her pierced ears, and her painted black lips with a piercing in the middle say: “I saw this flyer in the English building today.”

It was just those words.

The flyer had many ways of contacting Julia, with all her social media accounts there so you could see the image of perfection that everyone had of her. Maybe all the problems that would ruin her end of the year and her next semester would be solved now, but all Julia could think was: She knows my order?!

Julia nods, “Yes, I'm looking for someone to share my apartment with. It's right near the campus entrance. The building is pretty old, and I live on the sixth floor, with no elevator, but the apartment is nice, I promise. I'm not noisy or messy and I don't have any pets.” She could have shut up after explaining the location of the building, which was already in the flyer, instead of saying it all in one breath like that, but anyway… “Do you know anyone who would be interested?” Please be you, please be you…

Nico glances to the counter, “I lived in the dorms at first, but my roomate was the most shitty person I've ever met. So I moved into the second floor of the café; not exactly with Luke's permission at first, but when he found me there he let me stay until New Year's.” She turns back to Julia and says nothing more, so Julia assumes that the person interested in the place is Nico herself.

There was a possibility that Julia would fall in love and spend the rest of her college years suffering in silence for that girl, but even if she only got to be friends with Nico, that would be enough for her.

Julia smiles and holds out her hand to Nico to close the deal. "It seems we were fated for each other then." And that was precisely why usually Julia only said the same things to Nico. "I-I mean, destined to be roommates, you know? And solve our housing problems."

But, thank God, the girl didn't seem to pay much attention to what Julia said, because she seemed to be thinking about something, and didn't take Julia's hand. “Hm, I kind of adopted a stray cat that kept eating the café's garbage.”

Julia smiles more broadly; her hand still held out. “Great! Take the cat with you.” And then Nico gives what Julia would later learn is the beginning of a smile, and takes her hand. Julia is actually allergic to cats, but at the moment she couldn't even see it as a problem.

[rosesradio]

tbh i kinda wanna continue this summer-of-smut, if anyone wants to send their horny & depraved thoughts to my inbox (preferably for jasico and pipabeth, though i’m open to other ships if the prompt interests me). i’ll write just about anything besides select fetishes (like piss, etc, but to each their own ofc)

anyways, inbox is open, thank youuuu <3

[helphelph]

Rating pjo ships because I've seen a good amount of people doing it lately and it seems fun. But there's a twist!! I used the wackiest rating system imaginable because I'm insane. Have fun.

Percabeth: a hundred hearts out of five blue cookies.

Their dynamic is not only incredibly fun but also they complement each other very well. Honestly, when I first read the books, I didn't really want them to get together because I didn't want another "main guy gets main girl" situation, but they're honestly made for each other.

Jiper: five daggers out of ten great canyons

They were incredibly forced, but honestly not that bad of a ship. They were really cute but I dont have much to say about it.

Valgrace: fifty festus heads out of ten college aus

One of my favorite Jason ships ever. I love me some tragic gays.

Pipabeth: Two goddesses out of fifteen owls

I will ALWAYS support a good wlw ship. And Piper defo had a microcrush on Annabeth while they were on the Argo II. Plus the fanart of them is SO good.

Jercy/Person: twelve riptides out of ten horses

I like reading about it and it's quite fun to think about. Nothing much to say honestly.

Perachel: Ten prophecies out of nine pancakes drowned in syrup

They could have been cute. I dont really ship them though.

Annrachel(is that the name?): three prophecies out of five spiders

Korrasami vibes lmao. I think they're better off as friends but I will read a fanfic if I find an interesting one.

Solangelo: twenty-six skulls out of ten doctors notes

They were written for each other. As in Rick made sure that they were written for each other. I havent read tsats yet and im still on the first toa book so I don't have much on their dynamic. Still I like them and they visually look good together.

Valdangelo: ninety-four automatons out of six pomegranate seeds

They would have been unstoppable I tell you! Unstoppable!! Or maybe I'm biased. Either way they would have been an amazing couple together but Rick was too much of a coward to let them be (boy)friends. (Can you tell I'm biased?)

Jeyna: One bad father out of two older sisters.

UPDATE!!1!1!1 It has come to my attention that Reyna is canonically aroace with no romantic or sexual interest whatsoever so this ship is out of the window.

Jasico: 3/10

Personally I've never seen the hype for them. I like their dynamic a lot but not really in a shipping way. Sorry pjotumblr😔

Pernico: One bathe in the river styx out of thirteen hades figurines

The angst of Nico having a crush in Percy is a good concept to explore. Both in relationships with other characters and Nico's character development. But them being in a relationship together just irks me. It's not entirely problematic(at least i dont think it is? Correct me if im wrong), but still, the age gap makes me uncomfortable.

Ruegard: thirty-seven drakons out of one patrochilles parallel

Like I said, I love me some wlw ships. And while I've never really been a diehard fan of them, the fanart is amazing, so of course i ship them.

Frazel: 6/10

Rick try to make a girl and a boy stay friends challenge(impossible). But jokes aside, the 13-16 gap makes me annoyed. Three years isn't much but it matters in this situation. And it annoys me bacuse I want to like them. They have a cute dynamic but the maturity gap between them kinda gets in the way. That said, I would probably have liked them a lot better if they just stayed friends.

Valzhang: Nine eagles out of twenty hidden bunkers

Like I said before, I will consume almost every ship in a fandom. And if I find good fanfics of them, I will read it because I like exploring different characters' dynamics with each other. It's fun and I honestly think the pjo fandom should chill out a little. The amount of people who put others down for shipping something that isn't canon is way too much. Just let people enjoy their ships.

I think that's all? I didn't include Grover and Juniper because I honestly don't really have any opinions on them. They just exist and it's kinda like Rick just made them canon because he didn't want grover to feel left out. Let me know if there's other ships you'd want me to rate!

[cabeswaterdrowned]

arguing over how the godly DNA thing does/doesn’t impact shipping in pjoverse (aside from like, actual siblings obviously) is actually the stupidest thing ever. Just accept that the explanation was half assed / not written in a logical well thought out way but that we as a fandom have no choice but to accept it at face value and see it as a situation that isn’t analogous to the real world. I would say it’s similar to consuming paranormal media where all the main relationships are paranormal x immortal and you have to accept that as a trope of the genre / norm of the world rather than argue about 100 yr age gap vs 2000 year or something, when neither is appropriate and neither is analogous to like a teen show romanticizing a student-teacher relationship in a school setting which is technically less of a gap but sooo much more harmful in how it influences/relates to situations that happen just like that every day in reality (and this isn’t about ships with immortal x mortal like that in this verse necessarily since there are very few of them/it is not the norm, so I get people being uncomfortable with them (I Hate C*leo but my reasons for hating them aren’t necessarily that one)). There’s a false equivalency in trying to make demigod relationships out to be analogous to real life ones in that way and I haven’t seen one argument about this that isn’t blatantly just someone disliking a specific ship and trying to badmouth it and in doing so coming off as a hypocrite.

Like let’s see, ‘shipping Jasicois Disgusting idc what Rick says about DNA people are going to hell for shipping First Cousins 1!1’ okay… do you feel that way about Jercy? If you say yes you also hate that for the same reason do you feel that way about Pipabeth because Athena and Artemis are both daughters of Zeus making them ‘first cousins’ too (and here’s where I think you start losing people because in reality a lot of these arguments are based around the mlm ships but ignore the wlw ones because fandom has a very 2d way of interacting with ships like Pipabeth a lot of the time where sure a fan will say they Like the ship but they’ve never in reality ever given actual thought to their dynamic enough to notice this (also applies to things like arguing about a 1.5 year age gap for other ships like Jasico/Valdangelo maybe Jercy if they actually remember their 1.5 age difference but not being able to catch that Annabeth is also 1.5 years older than Piper because again it’s usually transparent when people haven’t actually payed the attention the female characters and f/f dynamics they pretend to, also 1.5 years is not a serious age gap like 3+ years is when it comes to ya/middle grade but this isn’t about that) And if you are taking the stance that what Rick said about godly DNA is like, a lie (when it is fantasy world-building albeit poorly constructed but still world-building) how are you going to ship Any of the demigods together if your answer is like amount of distances the family tree that’s also a bizarre/weird take because do you think shipping second cousins would be better/less gross/less harmful? Like by ‘Gods do have DNA actually’ logic Zeus is Athena’s father and Poseidon is Zeus’s brother so that makes Poseidon Annabeth’s great uncle and Percy Annabeth’s (As a die-hard Percabeth can’t believe I have to actually type this out to make a point I hate ya’ll for making me have to think about it this much 🤮🤢) Uncle ???!! Similar with Nico to Will and Hazel to Frank. Do you still believe what you originally spoke about? Like unless the take you have is that no demigods are shippable / you hate all ships between them the way these takes operate is Clearly not actually about like activism it’s because you dislike a ship and want to put it down/make it seem like other people should not ship it, be serious, and in the process you actually made everything much weirder and grosser than it needed to be in the first place. 

And like listen… you can just hate a ship! There are always some valid criticisms of ships/dynamics I’m including ones I personally ship in this. You can State your actual reasons for not liking the ship instead of this hypocritical faux-activism. For example I personally dislike Jercy as a ship because I think it’s overrated and boring compared to more interesting dynamics, their relationship could have been a good one but almost all their interactions in the books involved this weird toxic masculinity macho bs that seemed ooc for both of them and I didn’t enjoy reading about them together much. But I’m not going to try and tell Jercy shippers that shipping Jercy is problematic and terrible because they’re cousins or a toxic relationship or something because I have a functioning brain thank you very much! People can go for what I don’t personally like. See it’s very simple. You don’t even have to have reasons like I gave! You can just not vibe with something.

*P*rcicos dni this is not about you! No I don’t think the cousins argument holds weight there anymore than for other ships but their age gap + power imbalance Is troubling in a real world context in a way that doesn’t apply to other ships I mentioned ( Frazel similar in age gap but not in power dynamics, and I dislike Frazel too) the combination of 3.5ish years age gap + Nico having idolized Percy to an unhealthy degree for years/since he was a ten year old child + Percy very much views Nico as a child in his narration in pjo and that means he would never look at him in a romantic light at any point in the future, if you think otherwise you just don’t care or get Percy’s characterization frankly. I don’t support relationships that have such a troubling imbalance in a real world context. (It should go without saying L*kabeth L*kercy Th*labeth and dynamics with super egregious imbalances like that dni again not about you).

Most of the really irritating stuff I’ve seen about this is on twt I just felt the need to write all this out here 

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#5

write me your words of wonder

you want to be thought of with intent, for someone to sit down and want to share their thoughts with you specifically. and their thoughts about you, even more. for someone to Know you, or at least desire the knowledge. for them to write it out in a way that you can read as quickly or slowly as you desire. that you can reread again and again, or lock in a box and never read after that first quick consumption. you crave that tangibility. and the small moments that lead up to the letter being in your hand. to be told, 'it's in the mail' and then to have the simple joy of checking the mailbox to see if it has come today. to hold the envelope and feel the love within. there is a purpose of intent within physically written words, and it patches the parts of you that feel like you aren't worth thinking about. my darling, know that you are. you are worth intentional thought and cursive letters and an envelope sealed with a kiss.

4 notes - Posted June 30, 2022

#4

WITCH Season 2 - Nerissa’s revenge Rewrite

So this is a continuation of how CHYKN’s characterization is different from comics to tv show. And I fell into a tangent about how I’d change the tv show if I got to reboot WITCH. I don’t have ideas for Season 1 yet but I have stuff for season 2.

I am starting to think they tried to fit way too much in season two which is why it flopped but I get it. They wanted to make an action packed season like the first one but also darker. I can think of ideas on how to pay homage to the ex guardians and giving each a nice story to get to know their characters better. It would have been nice to have an episode or two that focused on the five of them and their stories. Perhaps seeing them in school, how they learned of their destiny and how they worked together as a team. It would also be nice to have like hints in the background like how they do in the Owl House. Eventually we could get to the tragedy and the falling out. In the end of the two parter, we’d see how the remaining three decided to remain friends but to distance from each other, a big mistake they didn’t realize until Nerissa came back and corrupted each of them. We could combine elements from the Tv show and the comics. Season two would obviously focus on trauma. The WITCH girls but their stuff would be paralleled by CHYKN’s story. We’d learn about the old guardians and have the new ones learn from the old ones’ mistakes which is what the comics emphasized.

Kadma and Halinor are the couple of the group. Cassidy and Nerissa were star crossed lovers doomed from the beginning but Kalinor were the envy of all of Sheffield. And it’s 2022 so we want healthy wlw representation up in here. These two are all about battling the patriarchy and its backwards, archaic, hypocritic rules. They could be the foundation of the group. They knew and loved each since elementary when Kadma first moved to Heatherfield. Then they met Nerissa, a queer baby they had to take under their wing and the adorable Cassidy who easily melted their hearts and soundly absorbed her into their group. Yan Lin was the final addition to the team and they all loved her greatly as their newest sister. Kadma had reservations about becoming a guardian but it’s Halinor who convinced her how much good they could with this opportunity beyond just Earth. The Guardians have more than often been a group of magical women doing good across the infinite dimensions, how could Halinor say no to that. While growing up, they’d start the Rising Star Foundation. The two were guardians and life partners. No one could really pull them apart. They were Earth and Fire melded together. Nothing was more precious to them than each other. Nothing but their fellow guardians. They were all so incredibly close in a way only other guardian groups could understand. Which is why the tragedy with Nerissa and Cassidy shook their couple hard. Without their heart, even the foundation crumbled. Yan Lin was all about harmony and she desperately wanted to keep that but Kalinin began drifting apart but that was in vain. They just didn’t work as cohesively as a trio. They stood together for many things starting with denouncing the oracle but things just weren’t the same anymore. Kadma began hardened and dispassioned about magic and Halinor no longer recognized the women she once loved and stopped believing in Kadma. The final straw that promptly led to their breakup was Kadma taking up the crown of Zamballah. They were going to leave the whole magical business behind and Kadma takes this up? Halinor and Yan Lin end up becoming a duo for a few more years until they both decide it’s time to end their guardianship. Yan Lin stays in Heatherfield while Halinor moves away. Kadma visits her old friends but quite rarely. And Halinor and Yan Lin are called from time to time to Kandrakar to discuss certain issues. Halinor May still have reservations but she still recognizes the good and honor Kandrakar does, even years after she spoke out against the oracle. I won’t write everything I have planned for season two here but I know I still want Nerissa to come after her old friends and collect them for her team of guardians to take over the magical universe. Nerissa would want to capture Cassidy’s soul first. But when couldn’t corrupt her soul, she let her go and created an Altermere that got to live and love for a bit while she collected the others. I imagine she’d attack Halinor and Kadma together. She’ll threaten Zamballa and make a show of it on Kandrakar. Halinor would be the first to fall into Nerissa’s corruption and this is how she gets revealed as a threat. Next up, Zamballa where Nerissa still preys upon Kadma’s inflated arrogance from years untreated grief and trauma. She could have used her love for Halinor but she knew without Halinor to balance her out, Kadma is practically defenseless. Next she goes to Yan Lin. Yan Lin was known for her strength of character too. Nerissa couldn’t corrupt her either and was forced to build a second altermere. This use of flagrant use of magic to copy a life distabilizes Nerissa further. Then easily she corrupts Cassidy’s altermere.

The team’s all back together and with double WITCH’s power. But in time, Irma wakes them up from Nerissa’s thrall and more in fighting begins with the five of them. It seems like Nerissa is about to lose when she absorbs all four of her friends into Meridian’s heart and gains all of their powers. She continues to build an army against Kandrakar when Will remembers she wants the heart of Kandrakar specifically. The girls have managed to delay her takeover but for how long. In the current circumstances, it’s best to just give Nerissa the heart and she gives up the heart of Zamballa. That’s where real Cassidy steps in with her copy of the heart, her Star. This gives the girls the power to return to Kandrakar and fight Nerissa. Nerissa brings terror and nightmare to the temple like in the comics but what she didn’t count on was the heart of meridian cracking and the ex guardians + real Yan Lin and Elyon escape (yes she was trapped in there too like in the show). This makes Nerissa susceptible to the Terrors she unleashed on everyone too. During the nightmare sequences she gave everyone, we get to see what unknown forces pushed Nerissa to evil and we get to understand her personal traumas better. In this sequence the old and new guardians come together to fight Nerissa and her goons. The new guardians are fighting to defeat her, the old ones are fighting to possibly heal their old friend. They nearly succeed when altermere Cassidy gets killed. This awakens Nerissa’s heart and her evil side gets detached from her long enough for the new guardians to destroy Nerissa for good. Real Cassidy appears and absorbs altermere Cassidy which allows her to linger just a bit longer in the real world. The dreamscape ends and everyone is back in the temple. The old guardians gather around a dying Nerissa who’s back to the self before she was corrupted. She acknowledges the horrors she unleashed upon the world and apologizes for destroying their group, saying she let her heart decay since childhood.Cassidy mentions the two of them were opposites on the good and evil scales and purely existed to balance each other. Kadma asks where did she hear that, the oracle? No Cassidy learned that in death. She helps her friends see that their story, albeit tragic and painful made way to a beautiful future and to an even more powerful group of guardians. Had they not been, A darkness would have led to the fall of kandrakar and WITCH would not have existed. Cassidy urges Kadma and Halinor to make up, because they still love each other dearly. Nerissa couldn’t have corrupted either if they weren’t each other’s greatness strength and weakness. Cassidy can’t linger much longer but she smiles brightly telling her friends she’s missed them all greatly, and while she’s ecstatic Nerissa will be joining her, she will wait patiently for the remaining three to cross over. Nerissa finds it beautiful that she gets to end her life with the people dearest to her heart in their most beautiful selves, exactly how she held them in her memory. The five ex guardians hug one last time uttering a saying they hold dearly to their hearts (like an inside joke). Their trauma may not be completely healed, but at least it’s not unbearable to think about anymore.

By the end of the season, Cassidy and Nerissa remain blissful in death, Yan Lin is still living her life with her granddaughter and new guardians in Heatherfield while also making plans to join Kandrakar, and Halinor and Kadma are back together, living in Fadden Hills as advisors to Rising Star but also coming to Heatherfield to visit Yan Lin from time to time.

4 notes - Posted May 31, 2022

#3

THEY ARE BACK FOR A BIT, LIVE AT HAMPTON COURT PALACE! I AM SO HAPPY.

I am so excited 😆

22 notes - Posted March 20, 2022

#2

SIX THE MUSICAL FILMED!!!

With the original west end cast too. This exactly what I wanted when it involves SIX. I am so happy. I wonder where will the recording be released. Anyways I’m here for it.

31 notes - Posted June 6, 2022

My #1 post of 2022

Thalia approving Jasico

Since I can’t find it, I’ll rewrite it myself just so I know it’s on my blog. It’s such a good concept: When Jason and Nico got together, you’d think Thalia would give Nico the shovel talk. So it came to everyone’s surprise that it was Jason who got the rough treatment.

Thalia: look here you little shit. This angel has been through so much. He deserves some happiness in his life so if you do anything to break his heart, I will personally escort you to Tartarus and dump you there.

Jason, sweating nervously: You’re MY sister Thals, WTF?

Just more Nico di Angelo Protection Squad shenanigans cause we deserve to see it.

36 notes - Posted March 17, 2022

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May 3, 2023 edit: I’ve been fucking looking for this post. Why did it take me this long? The year in review tag didn’t appear when i searched for it.

[titansarmy]

I have notifs on for the Jason / Nico text comparisons post because I keep running into people being weird about Jasico / oddly hateful so it’s always nice to see people also losing their minds over those two like I am 🖤 also probably a hot take but ThaliaNico was the fandoms prototypical nicojason (also a lot of people I used to know back then personally / seeing them in the fandom scene that loved Thalia are lesbians now lol… her power)

- 💀

i will make more text comparisons because !!!!! i think there’s something to say about how their characters both are guided by similar things and how they also complement each other !!!! if u have any like quotes/topics that u might want to see , let me knooooow and we can search the books for them <3

��👀 u might be onto something there. big 3 kid shipping makes a lot of sense. but tbfh everyone got shipped with everyone back in those days

the thalia enjoyer to lesbian and/or wlw pipeline is sooooo real 💀

[schrodingersachillesheel]

*clears throat* okay-

wtf is this discourse bro 💀💀 "go outside and touch grass" yall are arguing over whether or not..fictional crack fanon ships are misogynistic. like this is absolutely a discussion but the issue here is foundational, jegulus and wolfstar may often portray misogynistic and fetishizing behaviors but that is literally the bones of modern fandom culture. to ignore the canon in favor of more creative fan-made interpretations or depictions, you are inherently subjecting these fanworks to criticism regarding the ethics behind it.

if you are going to have this cake (say mlm ships are misogynistic) you need to put the fork down (stop consuming most fan-content)

this may seem like a wild jump to make but ill use a similar fandom that im more familiar with to illustrate this 'slippery slope'

i love the percy jackson fandom! i have grown up on those books. but here's a list of non-canon ships and their criticisms.

percico; usually paints annabeth as biphobic or erases her from the narrative entirely. also ignores that nico explicitly stated that he doesn't like percy. (percy/nico - mlm)

jasico; disregards character dynamics and forces the gay character into a harmful stereotype. (jason/nico - mlm)

jercy(.?); pushes harmful narratives that two men are not allowed to have an emotionally healthy friendship without being gay. (percy/jason - mlm)

pipabeth(??); fetishizes wlw relationships, is often only a companion to an mlm ship, and drags these characters so far out if themselves that they are barely recognizable so they feed into a palatable lesbian dynamic. (piper/annabeth - wlw)

jiper; disregards canon characters and forces piper to be straight. (jason/piper - wlm)

and for gits and shiggles, brason; supports the unhealthy idea that since he didn't "get the girl" he is undeserving of an actual relationship (jason/ a literal brick - ml🧱)

none of these ships are actually bad, in fact, most are handled very nicely even if i dont personally ship it but, they all have massive ethical flaws.

do you see my point here?

and if you're wondering why i care especially since ive stated multiple times that im only really on marauders tumblr bc jegulus is solangelo w better quality fics and i do not know very much abt harry potter...kick.

this is basically a line-for-line bar-for-bar repeat of the klance vs allurance battle of 2018, of which i had to explain to people that every one of the ships for vld is awful and by participating in shipping of any sort you are being willfully ignorant to the unethical/immoral nature of pretty much any ship ever.

so in conclusion, do i give a shit? absolutely fucking not. do i still think that this is the most absurd form of performative activism ive ever seen and possibly thinly veiled homophobia? yeah. and fyi... no one fucking cares, these are fake people who have 0 canon personalities at all, all of them are dead, and the author is a raging transphobe.

take a breath, go outside, and if you truly want to criticize behavior in the marauders, you should probably start with the insane amount of incest- like seriously guys wtf is going on?? like ik my fandoms may not be perfect but i couldve gone my entire life without reading the tag "star crossed brothers" while im looking for a cute little solangelo jegulus fic

im joking (..kind of) but seriously dude, if you don't like something in a fandom, just avoid it. theres no point in tearing people down over fictional injustices. unless a ship is fundamentally immoral (im looking at you mcu starker 👀) it's a futile argument.

i could tell you that jily is a disgusting display of harassment and manipulation in which james refuses to respect lily's wishes and blah blah blah but you dont care, it's nothing jily shippers haven't heard a million times before.

i think that ron and hermione are terrible for eachother because they almost constantly fight and appear to hate one another not to mention that ron is immature and something something it doesn't matter.

i could write an actual proper essay on this if you'd like but i think you get the gist.

pov: marauders fans when you call them out on their thinly veiled misogyny (grow the fuck up maybe) , hidden quite terribly behind the continued fetishisation of mlm relationships (which is also fucking weird seek therapy maybe)

[fangirls-like-me]

Fetishizing Gay Ships and Other Things Heteros Need To Know

(By the way, this doesn't exactly apply to most people in the LGBTQ+ community. This is just for cishet people. This is also about PJO/HoO for the most part.)

LET ME GET THIS IN WRITING:

Shipping gay ships isn't fetishization. That's just shipping a pairing that's same-sex. Solangelo and Patrochilles are canon ships, so fucking have a ball.

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What's bad is when you ship Percy and Nico playfully, fully knowing that Percy is three years older than Nico, just to write smut about. What's bad is when you ship Jercy JUST because it's all cute yaoi and they're two characters who have interacted positively. What's bad is shipping Nico with Jason (who is a year and a half older than Nico) just because Jason is a dude Nico has interacted positively with.

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Don't get me wrong, I love the fact that Annabeth/Percy/Piper/Jason pairings are just as loved as the canon ones (except for Jasabeth because they don't really have the chemistry), but I think that's because Jercy and Pipabeth don't seem as "real" or as threatening because they're not hetero pairings. I'm not hating on those ships because in a different timeline, they would be fucking BOMB, but even [whatever the fuck Piper + Percy is called] is a little iffy because we don't like Percy with any other girl than Annabeth because then it's "real." Even Nico's many ships (which is weird because he's like 14 👀) are just fun for the fandom to play with. Like if Nico was in a hetero relationship, no one would touch him.

That's... fetishization, I think.

ESPECIALLY when all you do with those pairings is write smut about them because EW. Please leave my gay self and gay children alone. Go back to your heteros.

Fetishizing gays is wrong and gross and it makes us all uncomfortable. It doesn't make you an ally; you're sexualizing us and the way we feel about other people. Just because it's called a "sexuality" doesn't mean it's all about sex.

WITH THAT SAID, if you think Jercy is cute and you like the domesticity of their pairing and you don't just like that they're gay and you think they actually have chemistry (which isn't wrong at all), then keep shipping them. If you think Pipabeth is cute and you can totally see them going on dates and holding hands in Central Park eating ice cream while they wait for their double-date with Jercy to show up (idk just throwing it out there), I have no problem with that, and I don't think other people would. I've read a lot of cute AUs like that.

JUST. DON'T. MAKE. US. A. FEATURE.

Gay people exist. We're real. We have jobs and houses and families and friends. We don't like becoming an idea or a way to deal with your identity problems stemming from parental misconduct. We are people, and we just want to be able to live our lives without being glanced at out of the side of your eye.

[everyurlithinkofistoolong]

Actually Jason is canonically bisexual and he planned to come out to his friends but Juno took him and completely wiped his memory so he never was able to. Also it was only until after all the Gaia bs that he actually had the space and time to think about his identity and feelings for nico + piper's own issues so that put a strain on their relationship. Anyways Jason never died and him and Piper came out to each other and are now mlm wlw solidarity. Also jasico is canon. Do you see the vision or

[irena-dubrovnaa]

pjo genderbend au lives rent free in my head at all times

its 2:15 in the morning and im thinking about wlw jasico and mlm pipeyna

[rubyfa]

It'd probably be between marvel ones like stucky and wolverine x nightcrawler (I'm a fake fan and don't know the ship name) and countless WLW ones for marvel. Or it'd be my many pjo beloveds like Jasico, Valgrace, and Solangelo.

Followers what were your first ever gay ships? I must know. I am curious.

[centurionzhang]

it genuinely annoys me how much mlm fic there are for pjo in comparison to the tiny amounts of wlw fics. even still those fics tagged as wlw have a mlm pairing, usually the main one. I'm mad

[lunarrumor]

i'm just,,, having a lot of thoughts abt pipeyna rn. i don't know what it is about them that makes me so happy but,,,,

strong pretty girl + her even stronger beautiful buff gf. two very powerful women, and hair braiding

i remember first seeing reyna and piper interact, immediately looking up fanfiction for them and finding an empty hole where the good wlw content should be

they deserve more love,,,,,, and i will now be reblogging lots and lots of pipeyna content to show them this love so prepare

it's just such a beautiful way to solve the weirdass love triangle with jason

picture them bonding over dating jason,,, being like 'haha yeah remember when jason was our beard? good times. we were both in a comphet relationship with that dork'

then jason realises he's gay and they're like 'hmm look at that'

some great wlw / mlm solidarity there

AND may i add,,,, valgrace + pipeyna double dates

just imagine. they would have such a good friendship

(OR JASICO THAT COULD WORK TOO)

but also i just want the lost trio + reyna hangouts i think it would be so fun

truly a crime how little reyna we got in the books (i mean,,, we did get a whole reyna pov but i wanted to see her interact with other characters !!!! i love the reyna and nico sibling relationship but i also wanted jeyna closure and justice for their friendship)

anyway im just saying,, there's such a good dynamic there to be explored .... very reminiscent of valgraces dynamic too (uptight, buff, smart one + impulsive, wild, relaxed one) which i think is why i probably like them both

[irena-dubrovnaa]

Sparky sparky sparky! I MUST hear ur thoughts on wlw jasico and mlm pipeyna I'm so intruiged!!

OMG YES IM ABSOLUTELY SO VERY GLAD TO TALK ABOUT IT MORE

okay so for the genderbend au im literally just switching my headcanons from what i have in the already canon universe 😭 for simplicity imma just say my genderbend au gender/sexuality hcs before i actually get into explaining dynamics and stuff (under cut since this is a ramble-y post)

nico - transfem genderfluid lesbian, she/he

jason - transneutral nb bi, they/she

reyna - transfem gay, he/they

piper - transneutral queer, they/he/she

also cw for talks of dysphoria and queerphobia

okay so first off wlw jasico bc yes. i love them sm. nico deals with a lot of dysphoria and comphet, a good deal of that comes from growing up closeted in the 30s. she's still got the idea that all "real" girls settle down with a nice guy and start a family, which she doesn't want, so it causes her a deal of dysphoria. after she spends some time at cj, she makes good friends with reyna and jason, both of whom are openly queer at the time. jason being bi and reyna being trans as well. they share experiences and help her learn to accept and love the fact that she's trans and a lesbian. eventually, he and jason develop feelings for each other but keep their relationship private. not necessarily secret, but they didn't go around telling everyone about the details and intricacies of their relationship.

now onto mlm pipeyna. i really like the idea of transmasc lesbian reyna in the normal pjoverse so naturally in a genderbent au im a sucker for the idea of transfem gay reyna. i think reyna would come to terms with himself fairly easily, given the fact that he doesn't really wanna change much about himself??? i see him still going by he/him pronouns because of familiarity and adding they/them pronouns to the list. both sets offer a certain kind of comfort for two entirely different reasons. they knew they liked guys since they were like 11 and basically just said "oh. yeah ok we'll go with this." didn't really tell anyone, just kinda let them figure it out when they never talked about any girls they liked and mentioned his various boyfriends he's had over the years. they're not too invested in romance but enjoy it and are a overall very good partner. piper i think probably took more time to accept themself, but when they did they had a very "oh you don't like it? sucks ig" attitude towards people who gave her shit about it. so im very much lead to believe that the two of them were comfortable with each other right off the bat and eventually developed feelings for one another. reyna took more time to develop feelings i think, but eventually were cool with how they saw piper and asked him out.

this was me when i saw this ask

ty for letting me ramble about this 😭 <33