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uderzhimenya · 6 days ago
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There will never be peace between our families. medici 2x04
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julyettes · 1 month ago
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Something that I feel is often very overlooked in Medici is the fact that Lorenzo manipulated Francesco as much as Jacopo did, but It's only forgotten or excused because Lorenzo's way to manipulate is different than Jacopo's and somehow more romantized.
Jacopo very clearly manipulates Francesco various times in the show to his own gain. The way that he does it is by guilt-tripping, like when he tells both Francesco and also Guglielmo that he took them in therefore they owe him loyalty, and by creating a sense of need for approval. While Jacopo makes Francesco feel inferior when he wants him to fear him or respect him, he gives him his approval when he wants him on his side. A good example of this is the dialogue where Francesco tells his uncle that the pope is the Medici's ally, to which Jacopo responds "Have I taught you nothing, nephew? There are no friends in politics." Obviously he knows exactly how he's making Francesco feel with this, as he's aware the need for approval from him he has created. On the other hand, when Jacopo wanted Francesco to be on his side again, he said he wished to be the first one to congratulate Francesco when he went to Imola, and gave him his approval.
But Lorenzo also manipulates Francesco, although in his own way. Lorenzo's manipulation tactic is rather the contrary than Jacopo's, which is the reason why so many people don't think he's a manipulator. His way of manipulating Francesco is simple, he gives him an, although fake, feeling of freedom and acceptance, because he knows well it's what he craves. Now don't get me wrong, i'm not saying Lorenzo only used Francesco. But he did make him do things "for the good of Florence" by manipulatng him, if that was truly necessary or not is a different discussion and a matter of opinion.
I believe the clearest example of manipulation is the scene where Lorenzo asks for the Pazzi bank's debts, basically telling Francesco to betray his family. First, he gives him a sense of freedom, by saying "I have no power over you, Francesco. None. The decision is yours." Which sounds good and not manipulative at all, until he ends it with "But all of us must live with the consequences." Basically he is trapping him, giving Francesco a fake sense of choice while actively making him feel bad about choosing what Lorenzo doesn't want him to choose.
Although Lorenzo didn't fully use Francesco for his own gain, and I believe he really loved him, that doesn't mean he didn't use him at all. He did. For the good of Florence, he manipulated Francesco. Just because Lorenzo's way of manipulation is less "harsh" and more good-intentioned than Jacopo's, doesn't make him stop being a master manipulator.
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Jacopo after the Pazzi Conspiracy: Have we gone too far? Francesco: Oh we went 'too far' hours ago Francesco: Now we're going to prison
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Marsilio rubs a sleeve against his cheek, where some tears have gathered. Silent but bitter and full of ache nonetheless. This has been his life for two weeks. Giovanni has not dared to come to him. Wrote a secret letter: “Stay in Celle. For the love of God, for your love of me, do not come to Florence. Not until things have cooled. I will tell you when it is safe – but not a minute before.” Marsilio longs to reply but knows the risk and it is not worth Giovanni’s life. His dear Cavalcanti has the benefit of being related to Lorenzo, but that will only get a man so far when the world is unstitching itself for grief. /
Early evening, Marsilio retreats to his study to pray, read, write. These activities being some of the few that give him any respite. If he works hard enough, prays often enough, he won’t have to think about all that has occurred and will continue to occur. His nights are violent, dreams tumultuous, he wakes from most worrying that he might still be asleep. He thinks that if he were truly awake, his friends would be alive. Instead, he will roll over and open his eyes to Salviati’s corpse. Then he will open them again to an empty bed.
Marsilio has a collection of letters, unsent, to Giovanni. One simply reads: Marsilio Ficino to Giovanni Cavalcanti, his unique friend: I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. &c. The current letter he is composing is half-finished and picks his pen up to complete. He left off in the grey dawn talking about a bird family nesting in an eave of the stable. They will likely be asleep, or soon to be. Marsilio opens the ink and dips his pen.
I love writing Marsilio's POV in The Magi. It's just Pazzi Plot Trauma and I Love Giovanni.
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sforzesco · 1 year ago
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Have you read Forbidden Friendships by Michael Rocke because I feel like it would be your jam. Also my time in the archive has revealed that Jacopo de Pazzi once bet someone 100 florins that Eugene IV wouldn't die and then he DID and Jacopo lost the money and thought it would be a good idea to write that on his tax returns for some reason
I HAVE read Forbidden Friendships (if anyone saw this post a second ago, I mistook it for a different book on Renaissance friendships that I’ve been glaring at for a few months now because I dislike the way the previous owner marked it up), it’s part of a collection on texts that made me start chomping down on interpersonal dynamics in the Renaissance (which is a fancy way of saying that it led me to a book on Machiavelli and Vettori’s letters and discourses on power and desire that. changed my brain chemistry forever. I’ll never recover from it.)
also I am SCREAMING that's so funny, the only time I like taxes are when it's about Renaissance guys
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HE LOVED HIS BROTHER
YOU CAN'T TELL ME HE DIDN'T
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He’s my blood. If Guglielmo is not a Pazzi, then nor am I.
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therepublicofletters · 9 months ago
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Hi! I've just discovered your lovely blog and needed to ask: I recently watched "Medici" season 2 (yes, I went straight to that one cause Pinterest kept throwing at me beautiful pictures of Francesco de' Pazzi 😂) and was wondering: was Lorenzo truly that magnanimous? Up until his brother's murder he seems too good to be true. And the Pazzis seem to be too bad to be true, almost like a Marvel/Disney villain (except perhaps Francesco, they give him more character background); did they have "better" motives other than just pure hatred towards the Medici to conspire against them? Sorry, this is probably too long for a question 😂
Ohhh I love this question and am very happy to answer (and talk about the Medici/Pazzi whenever).
The short answer is: yes, Lorenzo was quite magnanimous—he is historically remembered (and referred to in modern scholarship) as "The Magnificent"—but he was also quite an ass. No, the Pazzi were not simply evil, and a lot of what we "know" about them now is drawn straight from Medici-sponsored propaganda that swelled in the immediate aftermath of the Conspiracy and has overwhelmed the narrative ever since.
The longer answers are: Lorenzo was raised to be a prince, and he filled the role perfectly. On one hand, he acted very graciously and generously. He was a patron both socially and artistically—ie. he did favours and created an expansive network that came to encompass all of Florence and even extended outside (continuing what his father and grandfather had begun in the decades before). However, he was not willing to face competition. Some scholars suggest that this is the inevitable end to decades and centuries of the Florentine patronage system: instead of multiple smaller networks with large families that did favours, it became one ginormous network at which Lorenzo was at the very top.
People found him attractive in many ways. He was a compelling figure, he was gripping, he had flare. Whenever I read about Lorenzo I'm reminded of the quote from The Talented Mr. Ripley where Marge describes that when Dickie Greenleaf pays attention to you, "it's like the sun shines on you, and it's glorious. And then he forgets you and it's very, very cold." Lorenzo could very quickly turn a cold shoulder, and if you got on his bad side, that was it. One time he gave the silent treatment to a Milanese (I think?) ambassador for over a week. He also absolutely prevented his brother from participating in public life. Make of that what you will. F.W. Kent's work on Lorenzo touches on a lot of this very well.
As for the Pazzi, I think that a lot of the "evil" stuff that gets cast against them came not from them themselves, but from the other conspirators, who were largely based in Rome. I do think the Pazzi became somewhat jealous of the Medici, but it wasn't so much that they were anti-Medici so much as that they had a different conception of what Florence should be, and the Medici did not fit with that. However, the two families had been very closely tied for some fifty years by 1478, which makes it quite sticky. Many of the Pazzi were not "good" people, just like many of the Medici weren't; but they did positive things, too too. Jacopo, for example, was very diligent in giving alms and doing public works. Guglielmo was a public servant through the 1510s, and his son Cosimo became Archbishop of Florence in 1508 and was famous for being incredibly pious and good spirited.
I don't think that we can say that Lorenzo or any of the Pazzi were "better" as people than one another. I tend to judge Lorenzo quite harshly and give the Pazzi the benefit of the doubt, in part because of what happened after the Conspiracy. They were all compelling characters, though, perhaps because of their grey moral compasses. I think that's part of what makes this moment in history so gripping.
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xhideyourfires · 4 months ago
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✧━━ 𝐇𝐄𝐀𝐃𝐂𝐀𝐍𝐎𝐍 𝐃𝐎𝐒𝐒𝐈𝐄𝐑 ; 𝐂𝐇𝐀𝐑𝐀𝐂𝐓𝐄𝐑 𝐒𝐓𝐔𝐃𝐈𝐄𝐒
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⸻     𝐛𝐚𝐬𝐢𝐜 𝐢𝐧𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧:
𝙻𝙴𝙶𝙰𝙻 𝙽𝙰𝙼𝙴: francesco de' pazzi
𝙽𝙸𝙲𝙺𝙽𝙰𝙼𝙴𝚂: cesco
𝙳𝙰𝚃𝙴 𝙾𝙵 𝙱𝙸𝚁𝚃𝙷: Jan 28, 1444
𝙶𝙴𝙽𝙳𝙴𝚁: male
𝙿𝙻𝙰𝙲𝙴 𝙾𝙵 𝙱𝙸𝚁𝚃𝙷: republic of florence
𝙲𝚄𝚁𝚁𝙴𝙽𝚃𝙻𝚈 𝙻𝙸𝚅𝙸𝙽𝙶: republic of florence
𝚂𝙿𝙾𝙺𝙴𝙽 𝙻𝙰𝙽𝙶𝚄𝙰𝙶𝙴𝚂: Italian, spanish, english
𝙴𝙳𝚄𝙲𝙰𝚃𝙸𝙾𝙽: university; math, finance, trade
𝙷𝙰𝙸𝚁 𝙲𝙾𝙻𝙾𝚁: brown
𝙴𝚈𝙴 𝙲𝙾𝙻𝙾𝚁: brown
𝙷𝙴𝙸𝙶𝙷𝚃: 6'1
⸻     𝐟𝐚𝐦𝐢𝐥𝐲 𝐢𝐧𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧
𝚂𝙸𝙱𝙻𝙸𝙽𝙶𝚂: one brother, Guglielmo
𝙿𝙰𝚁𝙴𝙽𝚃𝚂: both parents are deceased; his uncle jacopo basically adopted him
𝙲𝙷𝙸𝙻𝙳𝚁𝙴𝙽: none
𝙿𝙴𝚃𝚂: none - but does his horse count? idk
⸻     𝐫𝐞𝐥𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐩  𝐢𝐧𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧:
𝚂𝙴𝚇𝚄𝙰𝙻 𝙾𝚁𝙸𝙴𝙽𝚃𝙰𝚃𝙸𝙾𝙽: het
𝚁𝙴𝙻𝙰𝚃𝙸𝙾𝙽𝚂𝙷𝙸𝙿 𝚂𝚃𝙰𝚃𝚄𝚂: separated 😮‍💨
tagged by; @caracarnn . @luckhissoul (you didn't tag but probably will lol)
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palecleverdoll · 1 year ago
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Ages of Medici Women at First Marriage
I have only included women whose birth dates and dates of marriage are known within at least 1-2 years, therefore, this is not a comprehensive list.
This list is composed of Medici women from 1386 to 1691 CE; 38 women in total.
Piccarda Bueria, wife of Giovanni di Bicci de’ Medici: age 18 when she married Giovanni in 1386 CE
Contessina de’ Bardi, wife of Cosimo de’ Medici: age 25 when she married Cosimo in 1415 CE
Lucrezia Tornabuoni, wife of Piero di Cosimo de’ Medici: age 17 when she married Piero in 1444 CE
Bianca de’ Medici, daughter of Piero di Cosimo de’ Medici: age 14 when she married Guglielmo de’ Pazzi in 1459 CE
Lucrezia de’ Medici, daughter of Piero di Cosimo de’ Medici: age 13 when she married Bernardo Rucellai in 1461 CE
Clarice Orsini, wife of Lorenzo de’ Medici: age 16 when she married Lorenzo in 1469 CE
Caterina Sforza, wife of Giovanni de' Medici il Popolano: age 10 when she married Girolamo Riario in 1473 CE
Semiramide Appiano, wife of Lorenzo di Pierfrancesco de' Medici: age 18 when she married Lorenzo in 1482 C
Lucrezia de’ Medici, daughter of Lorenzo de’ Medici: age 18 when she married Jacopo Salviati in 1488 CE
Alfonsina Orsini, wife of Piero di Lorenzo de’ Medici: age 16 when she married Piero in 1488 CE
Maddalena de’ Medici, daughter of Lorenzo de’ Medici: age 15 when she married Franceschetto Cybo in 1488 CE
Contessina de’ Medici, daughter of Lorenzo de’ Medici: age 16 when she married Piero Ridolfi in 1494 CE
Clarice de’ Medici, daughter of Piero di Lorenzo de’ Medici: age 19 when she married Filippo Strozzi the Younger in 1508 CE
Filberta of Savoy, wife of Giuliano de’ Medici: age 17 when she married Giuliano in 1515 CE
Madeleine de La Tour d’Auvergne, wife of Lorenzo II de’ Medici: age 20 when she married Lorenzo in 1518 CE
Catherine de’ Medici, daughter of Lorenzo II de’ Medici: age 14 when she married Henry II of France in 1533 CE
Margaret of Parma, wife of Alessandro de’ Medici: age 13 when she married Alessandro in 1536 CE
Eleanor of Toledo, wife of Cosimo I de’ Medici: age 17 when she married Cosimo in 1539 CE
Giulia de’ Medici, daughter of Alessandro de’ Medici: age 15 when she married Francesco Cantelmo in 1550 CE
Isabella de’ Medici, daughter of Cosimo I de’ Medici: age 16 when she married Paolo Giordano I Orsini in 1558 CE
Lucrezia de’ Medici, daughter of Cosimo I de’ Medici: age 13 when she married Alfonso II d’Este in 1558 CE
Bianca Cappello, wife of Francesco I de’ Medici: age 15 when she married Pietro Bonaventuri in 1563 CE
Joanna of Austria, wife of Francesco I de’ Medici: age 18 when she married Francesco in 1565 CE
Camilla Martelli, wife of Cosimo I de’ Medici: age 25 when she married Cosimo in 1570 CE
Eleanor de’ Medici, daughter of Francesco I de’ Medici: age 17 when she married Vincenzo I Gonzaga in 1584 CE
Virginia de’ Medici, daughter of Cosimo I de’ Medici: age 18 when she married Cesare d’Este in 1586 CE
Christina of Lorraine, wife of Ferdinando I de’ Medici: age 24 when she married Ferdinando in 1589 CE
Marie de’ Medici, daughter of Francesco I de’ Medici: age 25 when she married Henry IV of France in 1600 CE
Maria Maddalena of Austria, wife of Cosimo II de’ Medici: age 19 when she married Cosimo in 1608 CE
Caterina de’ Medici, daughter of Ferdinando I de’ Medici: age 24 when she married Ferdinando Gonzago in 1617 CE
Claudia de’ Medici, daughter of Ferdinando I de’ Medici: age 16 when she married Federico Ubaldo della Rovere in 1620 CE
Margherita de’ Medici, daughter of Cosimo II de’ Medici: age 16 when she married Odoardo Farnese in 1628 CE
Vittoria della Rovere, wife of Ferdinando II de’ Medici: age 12 when she married Ferdinando in 1634 CE
Anna de’ Medici, daughter of Cosimo II de’ Medici: age 30 when she married Ferdinand Charles of Austria in 1646 CE
Marguerite Louise d’Orleans, wife of Cosimo III de’ Medici: age 16 when she married Cosimo in 1661 CE
Violante Beatrice of Bavaria, wife of Ferdinando de’ Medici: age 16 when she married Ferdinando in 1689 CE
Anna Maria Franziska of Saxe-Lauenberg, wife of Gian Gastone de’ Medici: age 18 when she married Philipp Wilhelm of Neuberg in 1690 CE
Anna Maria Luisa de’ Medici, daughter of Cosimo III de’ Medici: age 24 when she married Johann Wilhelm, Elector Palatine in 1691 CE
The average age at first marriage among these women was 17 years old.
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The golden sun
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Summary: Many things have happened to the marriage of Francesco de Pazzi and Andrea Sabini, the speech of Jacopo de Pazzi and the appearance of the most talked about woman in Florence, Tamara D'Amato cousin of the bride.
"I can't believe Francesco de Pazzi is getting married," Giuliano said
"So it's true that a good woman can change you," Botticelli joked
"Apparently" Lorenzo took a sip of the wine looking at the new couple, you could see that they were in love.
"Our poor Lorenzo is jealous," Giuliano said
"What? Jealous of Francesco? Never, I'm just happy that he's no longer influenced by Jacopo Pazzi"
"Of course, it's not the fact that you feel a little lonely"
"Not at all, if I want to marry someone I can choose any lady" he laughed
"Sure, what about the woman mother introduced you?"
"Clarice Orsini, Carlo was unable to pessuader her and she became a nun" her brother looked at him for a moment and it seemed that he was about to explode with laughter.
"Don't try to laugh, and let's talk about you instead"
"There is nothing to talk about, because you are doing the same thing" Lorenzo was about to reply when their sister arrived.
"Bianca where were you?"
"With the bride's cousin Lucia D'Amato" she explained and pointed at the young woman
"Do you think the d'Adamato will show up?" Botticelli asked
"If they show up this will be the most remembered wedding in Florence" Giuliano commented, across the hall The Pazzi brothers were talking.
"Congratulations brother" Gugliemo Pazzi was really proud of his brother, even if he did not want to say it, he did not expect Francesco to fall in love, and he had gotten into oace with the obsession of the Medici
"Thank you but if it wasn't for you I don't think I'd be here to toast"
"You did the same thing with me and Bianca, you are my brother this is the least" it seemed that the Pazzi family was going through a period of rebirth and prosperity.
While everyone was celebrating Jacopo Pazzi entered it seemed that he had drunk too much he was drunk.
"Congratulations to my nephew Francesco" he applauded
"How come you are all silent, I thought this was a wedding" he sobbed
"And it is, Messer Pazzi you can stay as long as you want" Andrea said approaching the man
"No more titles we are family now" he smiled, a trail of chills rose on the back of the groom.
"Do you think he has something in mind?" Guglielmo whispered
"I'm going to see" he no longer needed to muster up the courage to talk to his uncle.
"Uncle I'm glad you came"
"I would never miss my brother's son's wedding"
and the man goes away and approached other nobles.
"My love are you okay?" he said
" Yes why?"
"Jacopo Pazzi is never happy for anyone, and now that his most precious pawn is dispossessed he is afraid that I will be against him"
"Honey don't worry, the only thing I can tell you is to follow your mind and your heart, and if you don't know what to do, talk to your brother and your wife" she advised.
"Yes" the major domus interrupted the couple
"Madonna Pazzi, Tamara D'Amato has arrived" he announced
"Well thank you, honey you will meet my best friend"
"I can't believe it, Tamara D'Amato is not ashamed, she shows up here after having canceled her engagement" a noble woman said
"And with that scar on her face who will marry her?" they snickered
"I advise you to ceaseyour gossiping, Tamara D'Amato is still part of the D'Amato family if she wants your heads, she will have them, if you insult Tamara, you insult Venice and Florence" Lucrezia Donati said, and two women stopped talking
The most talked about woman in Florence entered the room and brought a stir and shock with her.
"Congratulations cousin, may you have a prosperous life together," she smiled
"Oh Tamara, your presence here is the best gift" Andrea hugged her
"I would never miss my cousin and best friend's wedding"
"So the rumors are true, she is really a beautiful woman" Bianca said, without taking her eyes off the woman, she had seen noble women but there was something about Tamara, maybe it was her red dress or the long braid that gathered her hair almost to the floor.
"It's not just a beautiful face, his father Leonardo D'Amato has always believed he was raising his children despite being a son or daughter, the woman excels in economics, Latin, Greek, Italian and helps her father" their mother Lucrezia said
"She seems to be a great woman" Giuliano commented
"A woman worthy of being a wife" the mother winked and left
"Mother will never change"
"If it weren't for that scar she could be the most beautiful woman in Florence …" Botticelli said
"A beautiful woman is always a beautiful woman" Lorenzo interrupted
"Are my eyes deceiving or Lorenzo is quite interested in Tamara D'Amato?" the painter teased
"No, but the D'Amato family is a powerful and rich family, our father and Leonardo were about to make an agreement for the sale of silk" he explained, he continued to look at her and it was clear that even with the "scandals" she was charismatic woman.
The woman was approaching the group, the closer she gets, the more Lorenzo looked at her, he had noticed that she had a mole near her left eye.
"Good evening family de Medici and Signor Botticelli" she greeted
"Lady D'Amato is a pleasure to meet you this evening" Bianca greeted shyly, respected the woman
"I'm sorry for your father's death, he was a good man, may he rest in peace"
"I knew that our fathers were friends, my father is getting old unfortunately things have left certain things pending"
"We, their children can continue what they were doing"
"Interesting, I hope we could" before leaving the music began
"Dama would you like to dance with me?" he offered himself and gives her a little grin and accepted her hand. The music started and everybody was ready to dance
"Messer Lorenzo"
" Yes?"
"If you wanted to talk about business, it was enough to talk to my brother Benedetto, there was no need to invite me to dance"
"I didn't invite you for business, I'm just a man who can't resist a beautiful woman" Tamara laughed
" Is this how the famous Lorenzo de Medici steals the hearts of the ladies of Florence?" she smiled
" Steal? No my lady a thief steal, I'm a keeper, the heart of the lady I will love is more precious than diamonds and gold" he whispered on her ear.
" So you are poet too?"
" I'm a man who loves the art, I heard your family supports many artists" he said
" Yes my family support artists, from painters,writers, poets and musicians. House D'Amato is not only selling tessile but we make clothes out of them" she explained, and with the last twirl the dance ended, but their hands was still intertwined.
" I would like to see you" he blurted out
" I mean I would like to see more of your family products" he corrected himself blushing
" Of course our shops are always open" she smiled, bowed and walked away. Leaving the young Lord following her with his blue eyes.
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thesongofthegreens · 2 years ago
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Heyy!! Who's your fav couple in medici? I loved giuliano and simonetta's story it's heartbreaking, it was not lust but true and pure love
I also liked Bianca and guglielmo but their story was kinda incomplete. In s3 we only see bianca but we don't know anything about him. I had a feeling he died. What did you feel? ( ik he outlived bianca in real life but the show is pretty messy with timeliness since bianca died before lorenzo but in the series its the opposite)
I just saw this but I would LOVE to answer. so i think i have to say either clarenzo (clarice and lorenzo) or francesco and novella! i know francesco and novella's relationship soured after a year or two, but i loved how sweet he always was with her, until he suspected her of an affair, that is. he always let himself show her affection, even when they were in front of the public, when it was such a rare side of him.
i always liked giuliano and simonetta, and how they fell in love, but i didn't like that i could see tragedy coming from a mile away. i also didn't know about giuliano's death until watching the show, but i already knew someone would die and then it ended up being both of them, which BROKE my heart.
bianca and guglielmo was never my favorite couple, but i liked that he sided with the medici's for her. he seemed to truly care about her and became more of a medici than a pazzi, but him burning the note... i wanted him dead, though i know he didn't die immediately. i think it's because the medici's were always the ones handing him things and making sure he always had what he needed and always supporting him after jacopo turned a blind eye to him. his betrayal, though small, always made me want to fight him. i also get the feeling he lived well in his exile, even though he was never really seen again, just so that the medici's could say that they were merciful rather than tyrants, despite the fact that lorenzo lowkey turned to being one in the end.
saying that i hate guglielmo also brings in the complication of me saying francesco being my favorite, as he betrayed the only ones who loved him, but we would be fools to think lorenzo wasn't also trying to use him in his own little ways. lorenzo cared for francesco, but lorenzo did keep asking francesco to lowkey betray the pazzi family/let things fall into ruin for them, all to help the medici's. i always felt that if lorenzo had learned from jacopo's mistakes, rather than thinking himself above them, he would have been able to keep francesco as a friend.
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Who would survive in the Apocalypse? Medici Edition
Francesco Pazzi
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I would say the outbreak happened when Francesco was around...14? His parents are killed in the outbreak, and Francesco takes his little brother Gugielmo and runs. Francesco runs through the chaos of their hometown, trying to get away. Francesco takes Gugielmo and goes to his family's safe house, stealing a car to get there. His family on his Uncle's side, were preppers, especially Jacopo's wife, his aunt.
Francesco and Guglielmo get to the safe house and stay held up in there for three days before Jacopo finally arrives and finds them.
So Francesco essentially grows up for a large part of his life in the Apocalypse. He of course still remembers his life before the end of the world, but he learns and adapts to the world rather quickly. Jacopo is still a harsh man, and Francesco is abused as child, molded into a weapon for Jacopo to use.
Whatever main settlements appear throughout the years, Florence being one of them, his home and home to the Medici, Francesco likes to travel between them. He actually likes to be out in the dead world, much more than he likes being cooped up within the city that he calls home.
Francesco can kill walkers, he's quite good at it, Jacopo has made sure he excels in handling any type of weapon, but in truth, Francesco simply often avoids the dead. He can weave in and out of them easily, he is quick on his feet and knows where to hide and where to go to get away from a herd.
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Below is a response written to a comment left on The Feast of San Giovanni asking about Marsilio's involvement/knowledge of the Pazzi conspiracy. It's something I think about often - so have below my current musings on the subject.
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So, no one knows for certain what Marsilio's knowledge of the plot was – some historians say it was minimal, others think it was a little more than minimal, it varies depending on who you are reading.
My working, personal hypothesis is that Marsilio knew a lot more about it than would make people comfortable. He was close friends with Francesca Salviati, tutored Jacopo Bracciolini, tutored a lot of the Pazzi boys, and was old client of the family. Marsilio also had some public grievances with Lorenzo about the dropping off of patronage and favouring of Marsilio’s rivals (e.g., Luigi Pulci) – very publicly – over Marsilio.
It is my interpretation of events that I incorporated, to a certain degree, into Feast of San Giovanni. I do think Marsilio was a little more in-the-know than is implied in Feast, but the story is also from Giovanni’s point of view and he is doing a lot of stress-hoping that Marsilio can distance himself as much as is humanly possible from the plot. So, he’s choosing not to look at things too, too closely.
The approach I take is mostly based on the letters we see from 1476 through to early 1478 – particularly those to Bracciolini and Salviati. For Salviati we can see the close friendship and support they gave to one another and that Marsilio, Salviati and Giovanni were all very fond of one another. Marsilio’s early letters to Salviati were very encouraging – a lot of “you will get the job you deserve when the time is right, I trust God will reward you” etc. Then, when Salviati finally receives the archbishopric of Pisa, Marsilio writes him several very warm congratulatory letters, including one of my favourites where Marsilio basically says “Giovanni and I have popped a bottle of prosecco to celebrate the news”. And yes, Salviati did move from being Marsilio’s friend to his patron around this time so a certain level of flattery is expected, but there’s a genuine warmth that carries through from the old “we’re equals and friends” letters into the ”you’re my patron but we’re still buddies” era.
By mid-1477 and through to early 1478, however, Marsilio begins writing to both Salviati and Bracciolini (and some of the Pazzi lads) letters really focusing on being content with what God has given them. Reminders that greed and political grasping at power never go well and that the good, moral thing to do is live rightly as they are now and not try and take what isn’t intended for them. All terribly thinly veiled attempts to warn them off of the anti-Medici plot.
There is a fascinating letter in Vol. 4 of The Letters of Marsilio Ficino to Bracciolini in late 1477 and it is one of the letters that makes me think Marsilio knew a lot more than people give him credit for. I typed it out in full below:
Marsilio Ficino to Jacopo Bracciolini: greetings. Encouraging her with your arguments, magnanimous Bracciolini, I recently prevailed upon Truth [i.e., Marsilio himself] to come to Pisa, if she were needed, for the installment of Riario as Cardinal. Although at first she cheerfully accepted, a while later, in some strange way, she seemed a little less inclined to take this path. Even though she knew full well that all the Cardinal's servants [i.e., Bracciolini, Salviati, Pazzi] are her friends, she feared that someone else would intervene and interpret her words maliciously. But then, she remembered that Bracciolini, one of her keenest defenders, was now there, she immediately seized upon this path with the utmost confidence. Now, my Hercules, if necessary, do not hesitate to summon to assistance of your Iolaus; I mean Cosmico, the vigorous soldier of Pallas. But why do we needlessly lack confidence, as if any of my interests were less than safe under the ample roof of my patron Salviati? Among friends all things have a happy issue [outcome]. Farewell, Happy men.
Marsilio had a habit, in his writing, of positioning himself as a Concept – in this case, Truth – as a way of allowing himself to speak about very specific things without getting into self-incriminating details. It enables him to both give his position on a situation while keeping it in the realms of plausible deniability.
“No, I wasn’t talking about how everyone is going to Pisa for Riario's investment in order to talk about the plan to assassinate the Medici and I was very clearly invited for that purpose and initially accepted but am now sort-of quasi walking back my acceptance. I’m talking about the Platonic Ideal of Truth. Or something. Don’t worry about it.”
Instead of saying that he was intending to go but now is worried, Marsilio is saying: Truth was going to go, but now Truth isn’t going to go, though Truth might go if her safety could be guaranteed. But why should she be at risk, Jacopo? It's not like you and Salviati and members of the Pope’s family etc. are doing anything stupid or dangerous right? You're not going to plot to overthrow the Medici right? Right??? [Ficino staring into the camera like he's on the Office.]
I fundamentally believe that while Ficino had his grievances with Lorenzo (their relationship by the late 1470s was rocky), his annoyances with the lack of patronage, the frustrations with the unofficial Medici Court, he truly didn't want to see the younger man removed from power, let alone killed. What he wanted was for Lorenzo to be a better man and a better leader (and a better patron). He didn't want a switching of power within Florence.
Long and short is that Ficino spent a lot of 1477 and early 1478 trying to talk several of the conspirators out of going through with the plot. In doing this, he demonstrates that he had at least enough knowledge to know who to write to, what their motivations were, and how to best frame his arguments for their stepping back from the plot.
Again, I don’t believe he knew the details of how, since those were ever changing anyway (by the time they got to Easter Sunday Cathedral Murder Plan they were onto Attempt_43.1A_CLEAN_REAL.doc), but he knew enough to be hanged. What saved him was Lorenzo's nostalgic sentiment for Ficino, Cosimo's historic deep love of the little philosopher, Ficino's general popularity, and that Ficino sent a warning. (The warning letter might seem cryptic to us, but Lorenzo would have understood it.)
(Side note: While I have Ficino saying he doesn't think Giovanni being Lorenzo's cousin-through-marriage would have saved him, which is why Ficino sat on the information about the plot, I actually do think it was in Ficino's favour that he was Giovanni's most especial, unique nudge-nudge-wink-wink friend. Giovanni was family, Ficino was as good as family in certain respects - these are things Lorenzo cared about.)
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no real firm conclusion, but there you go. Pazzi & Marsilio Thoughts.
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sforzesco · 11 months ago
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Obviously I have a lot to say about the pazzi conspiracy but I’ve been working on Jacopo rn and gosh what a weird guy he was. Do you have any thoughts??? Curious what you’d have him look like
oh man, I spend so much time thinking about jacopo's corpse that I sometimes forget to think about him pre-corpse. there's some thread of a thought about the pazzi and architecture that was forming the last time I was doing some research but I think I'm going to have to sit down and actually. figure out what my thoughts on him are shshsh
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silvcrignis · 2 years ago
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Jacopo Di Pazzi is NOT happy with being drafted for this by his ex wife btw hfhghjh but Keira figured an Italian who doesn’t like Europe at all & moved to AMERICA was the best fit for this bc Jacopo thinks nationalism GAY 😭
@lettherebemonsters
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therepublicofletters · 1 year ago
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I want to personally thank Jacopo, Piero, and Cosimo de' Pazzi for having beautiful handwriting and shake Guglielmo for not
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