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ankhondekhinews · 2 years ago
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aparticularbandit · 3 months ago
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Meanwhile, I'm here for what I expect will be Nicholas and Billy parallels.
I'm here for Agatha "I have successfully walked the Road before" to have attempted it with Nicholas (or FOR Nicholas).
I'm here for this to be why she doesn't particularly want to walk the road with Billy.
I'm here for Nicholas having also been super into witchcraft and his super powerful witch mama just like Billy is a fan.
I'm here for Agatha having lost Nicholas when she walked the Road.
I'm here for Agatha having walked the Road before to try and bring him back getting paralleled with Billy walking the Road to get Wanda back.
I'm here for Agatha getting the Darkhold and getting into dark magic to get Nicholas back the same way that Wanda tried using the Darkhold to get her boys back.
I'm here for Nicholas being the reason Agatha wanted to absorb Wanda's power. (She wanted to see how Wanda was making the Hex. Necromancy is different than what Wanda was doing. Maybe Agatha wanted to learn for her own son.)
I'm here for Agatha being jealous that Wanda CAN get them back, even though she wasn't successful with Nicholas.
I'm here for ignoring that the Salem Seven are Nicholas's kids in favor of -gestures to above-.
I'm here for Agatha adopting Billy.
I'm here for Billy standing up to save Agatha when Nicholas comes for her.
I'm here for Agatha choosing to save Billy instead of Nicholas. Because Billy reminds her of what Nicholas was. And she wants to keep him from turning into what Nicholas did.
I'm here for Agatha having the "I can be good" "No, you can't" conversation with Nicholas for familial trauma parallels.
I'm here for Agatha "does not have a coven" Harkness who already destroyed her first coven (her mother's coven) still trying to build a second coven to walk the Road and doing so successfully.
I'm here for Agatha Harkness narrowly escaping Nicholas by the skin of her teeth when he tries (and succeeds) in destroying her second coven as they walked the Road (but she escaped when her own mother did not).
I'm here for Agatha seeing her mother in herself and hating every moment of it.
(I'm here for Wanda thinking she understands Agatha's most traumatic moment but not grasping the true layers of it being repeated again.)
I'm here for the beating heart of this show being generational trauma and narrative parallels.
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adda247-school · 2 years ago
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careerland · 2 years ago
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talas-first-lady · 2 months ago
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It’s a bad day but at least we got Nicky’s paternity test results.
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“When we were casting, sometimes we were like, ‘Does that kid look like Rio? Does that kid look like Aubrey Plaza?’ The fans are picking up on our brain waves.” - Jac Schaeffer
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aparticularbandit · 3 months ago
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Also makes her a better mentor for America Chavez than Strange, but....
So I said agatha was not a villain, just scared and broken. Someone had the audacity to say "pretty sure she's a serial killer but okay".
FIRST, SHE ONLY STARTED KILLING PEOPLE BECAUSE HER MOTHER WAS THE LITERAL DEVIL AND TREATED HER AS IF SHE SHOULDVE DIED AT BIRTH.
It was NEVER EVER her fault that she was the type of witch she is. The worst part of it is that i am 100% certain that if her coven had taught her and nurtured her power, she would have been good. All she wanted was to be taught how to control her power; to learn how to use it for good. No one gave Agatha that chance. She spent her entire life thinking she was what everyone else thought she was; evil. Of COURSE she ended up having villainous traits and doing insane things, it's all anyone ever expected!
Bottom line, YOU HATERS DO NOT GET AGATHA HARKNESS LIKE I DO. SHE IS NOT A VILLAIN, SHE IS STILL THE GIRL TIED TO A FLAG POST BEGGING HER COVEN TO TEACH HER HOW TO CONTROL SOMETHING THAT WAS NEVER HER FAULT TO BEGIN WITH.
She never wanted to kill, or take another witch's power, but it's the only choice she was given if she wanted to survive.
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bunniandhoney · 6 months ago
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Angst | He doesn’t realize what he has until it’s gone, fast-forward he sees her back at the premiere
P.s Just for fun , Idk how he is Irl he is a sweetheart tho
Dear Anon,
How did you know I love angst? 😏
xoxo,
Bunni
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Life’s a Marathon
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Jacob takes his best friend for granted.
Y/N found herself in the most awkward predicaments. Never by her own design but certainly by the construction of her best friend Jacob.
“I think i might’ve fucked up” Jacob says looking down at Y/N as she ties her shoes. “I think I’m going to have to agree, neither one of us should be running a marathon this early or really at all.” YN replies with a grim look on her face.
She definitely shouldn’t have agreed to this. She hates sweating and gets her daily exercise from the 25 minute walk from her apartment to her office job. But since she has a burning crush on her best friend she has such a hard time telling Jacob no, actually she’s never fully told Jacob no.
Like that time in Year 10 when he’d ask her to help with his final paper. Even though she was behind on hers and working extra shifts at the cafe she still did his, resulting in her earning a C+ on her paper and an A on his. Or when she told him she just wanted a relaxing night in for her 18th, but Jacob insisted on hitting up every pub in the city. She then spent the last moments of her 18th birthday rubbing Jacob’s back as he emptied his guts in the toilet. This is what best friends do though, they sacrifice, they care, and apparently they run marathons with zero training.
Finally on her feet Jacob pulls her in by her shoulders. “ Quick let’s take a selfie to remember this moment”, with wide grins facing his phone Jacob takes the picture.
“Will all runners please make their way to the starting line” the announcer says.
YN is starting to feel sick. “ You know I can always wait for you at the checkpoints and cheer”
“Yeah but where would the fun be in that? Besides you can’t leave me now, we’re at the starting line.” Dragging her feet YN follows an excited Jacob to the starting line with the rest of the runners.
The sound of the gun signals the runners to start, and they’re off…well Jacob is. YN is already at the back of the pack within 60 seconds of the race starting and her best friend is nowhere to be found.
When she finally finishes the first mile, she’s slightly winded but not awful, the second clearly wears her down though because she’s practically walking. Huffing and puffing she tries to pick her pace back up as she sees the finish line. She sees Jacob at the end cheering for her, or at least that’s what she thinks because her vision seems a little blurry and black dots are spotting her vision. Yn is almost there, almost at the end when everything goes dark.
People are laughing at her. YN can hear it as she comes to; wait is that Jacob laughing at her? Blinking her eyes open she does see him laughing but it’s joined by a woman’s laugh, a very pretty woman now that her vision is clearing up.
“Jac—“ the rasp coming from her voice is unrecognizable, but does the trick because Jacob looks down at her.
“You’re awake!” says the pretty lady on her other side.
“I’m Dr. Sams, I was the medic on the scene when you passed out. Can you tell me your name?”
Sitting under a cooling tent with ice packs on most of her body and being forced to chug down gatorade is probably top 5 most embarrassing moments especially since the only other person under there is a 65 year old man who threw out his knee, and said he felt too hot under the medic tent. “It’s alright doll, my first race wasn’t sunshine and rainbows either, " he says with a grin.
“Dr. Sams said you’re clear if you’re ready to go. Should probably take you home to rest.” Jacob says helping YN up. The car ride back to her apartment is dead silent besides the loud tension between Jacob’s guilt and YN's embarrassment. When he pulls into her garage Jacob decides to break the ice. “Look i’m really sorry love, you were right the marathon was not a good idea. I’m sure dehydration was not in your weekend plans.”
A sympathetic smile, the same one she always gives when Jacob screws up, graces her face. “It’s not your fault I’m an adult, and should’ve known that I was feeling way too bad to continue.”
Walking up to YN’s apartment Jacob can’t help but to be apologetic still. Laying YN on the couch and getting her a bottle of water from the fridge Jacob, trying to ease any leftover tension yells, "Well at least something good came from today?”
And honestly nothing is coming to YN’s mind, in fact, today was about as horrible as it could get for her.
She was spontaneously woken up at the crack of dawn.
The “Big Suprise” her best friend/crush for her was a damn marathon
She had to run a marathon
And lastly, she passed out in front of hundreds of people including Jacob. Yeah, there couldn’t possibly be anything good.
“The cute medic that was helping you, well we were chatting so I’m taking her out tonight!”
Mentally adding this to the list of horrible things happening today YN groans, “My head is pounding, what did you say?”
“I’ve got a date with a hot doctor babe!” he yells back gleefully.
YM closes her eyes silently hoping that what’s happening is that she’s in a dream and when she wakes up it’ll be noon, she will just now be getting up, and planning to spend the whole day in a big Tshirt (no pants of course). But when she peeks open one of her eyes she sees her best friend walking back with a glass of orange juice and some painkillers. “ Here you go, Dr. Sams said this might help with any aches or fatigue.”
Nope, not a dream, but a terrible nightmare.
Jacob finally heads out, claiming he needs to prepare for his date, leaving YN alone and feeling incredibly achey. In the 15 years she’s known Jacob he has only had a girlfriend twice.
Once in Year 9, Elizabeth Brown, ended up being on the receiving end of Jacob’s turn of a horrid “Spin the Bottle” game. Elizabeth claimed Jacob was the best kisser in the world and deemed him her boyfriend. Which to her point was very true as YN and Jacob had been practicing for years at that point. Jacob beaming with pride accepted the title for approximately 17 days before he claimed she was way too clingy and broke it off.
The next was years later in university when he dated Sasha Davies for TWO whole years. YN just knew she’d lost him. But Sasha was quite rude and incredibly judgey, so when she found out that Jacob passed up a regular job for acting, she dumped him, leaving YN to pick up the pieces. Since then Jacob had sworn off dating until he was settled in his career as a full time actor, claiming that YN and his mum were the only women he needed in his life.
So why on earth are things changing now! She thought she was all he needed, even if nothing went further than friendship. YN is not near spiteful enough to ruin a relationship, so for now she’ll just sit back and see if anything comes of this one date.
Unfortunately, everything comes from one date, because it turns into two and three. Then eventually Yvanne (Dr. Sams) and Jacob are practicing living together in a matter of months. It’s not that Jacob ignores YN, no, he tries to include her in almost everything the couple does. He even tries to do a weekly coffee date with YN just to check in on her, but YN can’t do it. She can’t watch him kiss and hug another woman, buy her odd but sentimental gifts, or even open the bloody car door for someone else. She can’t watch him be in love with anyone else while her heart still craves him.
So she pulls away, just slightly so he doesn’t notice. Her plan is working beautifully since Jacob is enamored with Yvanne. It simply looks as if she wants him to spend more time with his girlfriend. Well, it was working beautifully until Jacob drops an absolute bomb on her during one of their coffee dates.
“You’re going to do what!?!?! “ she screeches in the corner booth, causing too many eyes to look their way.
“Woah calm down. Look I’m going off to shoot the movie and want Yvanne to know I’m serious; that I’m in this for the long haul, for forever.”
“I think there are other ways to show you’re serious than marrying her. For fucks sake J you all haven’t been together a whole year yet!” YN fumes.
“It’ll be a longish engagement, and honestly I thought you’d be happier for me. You’re my best friend in the whole world, I haven’t even told my mum this yet.” He replies diffendently.
Now YN sees it, she sees him slipping away. It’s clear that as always, Jacob has made up his mind and in turn has decided both of their fates for them.
“You’re right, it just caught me by suprise. I’m so happy for you”
“Really”
“Of course, J, you know I just want you to be happy, you’re my best friend.” YN rewards him with a suffering smile.
For three weeks after the news YN goes completely ghost. Every call and text Jacob attempts to make goes unanswered, but she can’t do it. She can’t watch this happen or pretend to be okay, even when she thought she could. Jacob stops by her apartment at the end of week three to check on her since she’d clearly been avoiding him. But when he reaches under the ficus pot outside her apartment door he realizes it’s gone. YN had taken the key and moved it. This officially sends Jacob into a rage because that key was reserved for him, now he’s banging on her door yelling for her to “Let me in because I know you’re in there!”
A puffy-eyed YN opens the door just as Jacob raises his fist again. She’s been crying, she can’t stop, not since the day she left that cafe. “Hey J, what’s going on?”
“You’ve been ignoring me!” he says stepping into her apartment, which is shockingly a mess. She’s always been a bit of a neat freak, cleaning up everyone’s mess all the time. “You’ve been ignoring me, and you’ve been crying.”
“Oh. I’m fin—“
“Please don’t do that shit with me. The pretending, because I know you better than anyone in this world so come off it!”
For some reason this pisses YN off to a degree she’s never known before.
“You don’t know a damn thing about me, Jacob Scipio! How dare you come banging on MY door expecting anything from me, you, you selfish bastard!”
Eyebrows raised in shock Jacob uses his silence as a reply.
With tears starting to roll down her face YN cries, “ I have spent years following behind you, trying to make sure nothing ever inconveniences you. Making sure that Jacob is happy, that he’s in perfect health, that he’s got his lines down packed, and not because I wanted something in return but because I cared for you. Hell, I loved you Jacob. Then you expect me to jump for joy when you want to propose to a girl you’ve known for 9 months! So, no Jacob, you don’t know me!”
“YN, I’m so—“
“Please don’t apologize, just leave, I want to be alone.”
His head hung low Jacob turns to walk back out of her apartment. “Umm, I wanted to give you this. I hope you can make it.” he says sitting an envelope on her coffee table. When Jacob walks out that door YN expects to never see her best friend again and she crumbles to the floor letting the tears wrack through her body.
1 ½ year later —
Jacob would like to say that he couldn’t be happier. At the premier of one of the biggest movies of his life, he should be overjoyed. And don’t get him wrong, he's extremely happy and grateful. He’s a trending topic, he has his amazing cast mates, and his extremely supportive family here with him. But the one person he’s hoped to see is nowhere to be found.
When he’d left that save the date on her coffee table a year and a half ago he knew that wouldn’t solve whatever issues they had, so he had his mother send her an official invitation through the mail three months ago. Even though YN wanted nothing to do with Jacob, their lives couldn’t help but to be intertwined, they’d known each other for over half their lives.
This separation had been hell for him, as he knew it would be as soon as he left her apartment that day. He cut things off with Yvanne two days later, unable to proceed with the engagement. He spent the rest of the time thinking about how right YN was, he was a selfish bastard. Almost her whole life has been spent accommodating him and so he vowed that if he ever got the chance he would do right by his best friend.
But he couldn’t do that because for the past 550 days he hasn’t so much as heard her voice let alone seen her, and while he hopes she would show up tonight for his premiere, he also knows that it’s a long shot; a consequence of hurting the people who love you.
Jacob takes one last look as he walks into the already packed theater. Sitting next to his mom Jacob relaxes into his seat and just before the lights go down he hears a breathless “Sorry I’m late, this LA traffic is awful!”
There she is, on day 551, the only person he cared to see, his very reason for being and she sits next to him filling his lungs with fresh air and her jasmine scented perfume. “You came.”
“Well of course, I couldn’t miss you on the big screen. Plus both of our mothers threatened me.” YN says with a bright smile.
She’s different, they both are, and they can only hope that fate hasn’t given up on them yet.
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thanks again for letting me write this for you, i had so much fun!
IDK, I’m kinda feeling a part 2 in my spirit, so lmk if that something y’all would be interested in!
also thanks for all the love on my other posts, i’m still taking requests so let them free!!!
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porraaharkness · 2 months ago
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Agatha All Along - Agathario leaks and theories
Last year they were some leaks about the show’s history, two of them has already happened, and it`s fun to notice how the leaks were right even on the details. So if you don’t want to be spoiled, this is a warning.
The leaks were about some major things on the show:
1. Rio breaking Wanda’s spell
2. Agatha, Rio and Nicholas backstory
3. Teen being Billy Maximoff on William Kaplan body
4. Rio Vidal not being part of the coven (the Black heart thing)
The only part that still needs to be show is Agathario’s storyline, so I will focus on it.
RIO BREAKING WANDA’S SPELL
“She (Agatha) has been trapped by Wanda in a trance like state where she believes she lives in a TV show version of Westview, but in reality, it`s all in her head. In the latest episode of that show, she plays Detective Agnes who is investigating the death of a young woman who is later revealed through a magical toe tag to be Wanda herself. Helping with the investigation is an FBI agent played by Aubrey Plaza, but Agatha soon realises that this agent is her ex-wife, Rio Vidal, who has entered Agatha`s mind and is trying to break her out of Wands’s spell. When she succeds, Agatha wakes up in her bedroom, now completely powerless, with Rio in the room with her and Billy, who had snuck into Agatha’s houss and is hiding in her closet, listening in to the 2 exes bickering”
In the leaks, it is Rio who breaks the spell, not Billy, and I think this will be revealed in the next episode or in the 8th. In the last episode we had Billy’s point of view, I think they didn’t show Rio in the couch because Billy didn’t saw her there, just Agatha.
And that could be becuse she was trying break Wand’s spell trough Agatha’s mind. The scene when Agatha is interrogating Billy, Rio isn’t in the same room, and from his point of view, she shows up after the spell was already broke
Other two things I feel gave some clues is that Agatha’s neighbour said it has been days that she is strange, so Wanda’s death maked it easy to Rio find her and trying to break the spell. And Rio shows up in the begining of the episode, Teen shows later. I think it was Rio trying to use Wanda’s death to get Agatha free from the spell.
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And Billy being kind of lost trying to do the spell, like he didn’t know what he was doing, in a way Rio wouldn’t, being Death and The Green witch.
One last thing on this part, when asked about Rio as FBI agent on Agatha’s house, Jac answered:
“That POV shot is obscured, there’s not an empty chair there. So I think she was, but it wasn’t - the story of episode 6 is Billy’s path and and what he’s focused on”.
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So in this moment, Billy believes he is the one that broke Wanda’s spell on Agatha, leading us to believe in this too.
AGATHARIO AND NICHOLAS BACKSTORY
“Through flashbacks we learn that Agatha and Rio were married all the way back in the 1600s, before Agatha had got her hands on the Darkhold, and they even had a son, Niholas Scratch. But divorced when Agatha, freshly under the influence of the Darkhold, became obsessed with it, she slowly started losing herself and getting corrupted by its evil power, resulting in her sacrificing their son to Mephisto (is referenced by name but does not show up). Once Rio found out about this, she and Agatha broke up and Rio has been trying to get revenge on Agatha ever since. Rio will be a villain in the series, who appears crazy and obssessive at first, but is justifiably very hurt and angry.” I see a lot of people asking why would Agatha hates Rio so much if it was Agatha who sacrificed their son.
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I think she really believed that Rio would spare Nicholas, being her mother too. And all this hate could be a way to deal with the selfhate and guilt for giving her son in exchange to be more powerful, even if she didn’t believe she would really lose him. She lost Rio and Nicholas, all her family, with that choice, the people she loved the most and were more vulnerable with, it makes sense that she went all power greed and closed off emotionally after that, because it’s all that she had left.
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And Rio, on the other side, wants revenge because Agatha not just made a deal using their son but put Rio in a position that she couldn’t make any choice. She is Death, she maybe can heal someone, but can not bringe back who is already dead. So she was left alone, without her son and wife, for something that was beyond her control. And with the knowledge that Agatha trade their son to have more power, a quality that maybe made her falling in love with Agatha in their first place.
That would make it bittersweet, what made then falling in love with each other (Agatha as a power hungry and Rio as Death herself) were the same thing that destroyed their family and broke them apart.
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RIO VIDAL NOT BEING PART OF THE COVEN
“The only 2 witches wich can enter the dimension without a coven are the Scarlet Witch, and Rio Vidal, who is powerfull Green Witch, she is supposed to be one of the oldest and more powerfull witches in the MCU. Rio uses the powers of Earth and nature and is said to be even stronger than the Scarlet Witch”
That’s go on with Agatha saying Rio was just a “tourist”. Maybe Rio didn’t even need to be summoned on the Road to appear, she was just waiting for the perfect moment, and Sharon’s death was it. And in the leaks it was already confirmed that Billy was part of the coven, not Rio.
HOW IT ENDS?
One thing I notice from the leaks it’s that none of them talks about the final battle/scene. I think the show is promoting it with few scenes, like a Rio’s betrayal against Agatha, but from the leaks of their backstory I believe will be more emotional, with both of then trying to trown at the other all the hate and pain for what happened, but having to accept and deal with Nichola’s death. Agatha trying to make a different choice, not sacrificing Billy and Rio leting him go alive, in a way she couldn’t do with Nicky.
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But that’s it’s me theorizing, didn’t find any leaks about their final fight, if it’s really between them, the vibe or how it ends.
I don’t think they will die because Aubrey and Kathryn will be back on Marvel. But Marvel likes to kill characters and bring then back later, so who knows.
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unsoundedcomic · 1 month ago
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I'm not sure I understand the motivation behind the Man deciding to capture everyone's memories. The problem with the First Soul was that the memories of prior Sette's ended up inhabiting the Khert as ghosts instead of the new living Sette having access to the memories of all her previous lives. I don't see how capturing everyone's memories solves this, was he hoping to just put them all back together later?
The Man was trying to make everlasting souls in the way that his religion had imagined them: immortal disembodied version of living people that could go on to be reborn.
It didn't work as he'd wanted with Sette and Jac. As you said, the memories don't stay with the First Soul, though the First Soul is indeed unending and immortal. This wasn't what he wanted. The kids are failures.
Round two's attempt didn't work either. The changes he and Ilganyag made to humanity did not keep their memories together as a soul after they died either. They scatter, resulting in the present state of the world.
And there was no round three since the Man accidentally wiped himself from existence, replacing himself with a version that hadn't needed to do what his previous self had and, upon seeing the results, found the entire thing horrifying.
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selinkamayer · 1 month ago
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Throwback to the only time I've got good results from this film stock, with the glorious Jacs Fishburne.
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shesmyscar · 2 months ago
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okay, i think i’ve cooked with my agatha all along finale theory that i feel confident posting it since i’ve had time to chew on it after tonight’s episode.
spoilers under the cut!
so, we all know that rio can’t kill agatha since it’s against the rules—in addition to duh down bad ex-wives—and that rio dares agatha to take her powers, but agatha says she knows that would kill her (especially now with the official reveal of rio being death)
what if during rio’s trial next week, rio calls agatha a coward for something related to billy and his split life line (still trying to figure out how that slots in btw) and when she goes to blast him, agatha jumps in to try and save him, since they seem to be setting her up to be a mentor for billy (like she is wanda in the comics) and she ends up getting blasted by rio’s magic and her absorbtion kicks in but because she can’t fully control it, this is harkens back to the convo in episode one and how lilia tells agatha to avoid it w/that line cue of “when she calls you a coward, hit the deck”
and as a result agatha “dies” (rip my girl), but rio tries to bring her back with her green magic (aka a kiss of life) but it’s just not enough to fully get her back and episode 8 ends there. however, don’t worry friends there’s more to this theory.
we all know the rumor that episode 9 is a flashback episode, so this could play out like agatha’s life flashing before her eyes and we get to see how her and rio meet, their adventures, etc. but when it ends, there’s a post credit scene of back to that final scene in ep 8 where it’s billy using his powers (or even his wish at the end of the road) to bring agatha back and complete what rio can’t and bringing agatga back as a ghost (since she is a ghost in the comics) and would perfectly set him up to hone his magic to search for tommy. and would tie in SO well with him being the magician card
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and then when agatha comes back to life (since she would still technically have a corporial form) we cut to her eyes opening and she has the little white stripe in her hair like the comics and this way she gets to be with rio for all eternity without worry and can mentor billy
further, i think it would be SUCH an interesting way to combat a bury your gays trope having her come back as a ghost to be even more annoying (affectionate) & for rio to say “i do hate ghosts, but this one i guess is ok” & to combatthe tragic doomed by the narrative yuri trope
also no clue if this is how it’ll play out, but based on just general plot structure and what i’ve seen jac schaeffer do, this feels SO plausible to me rn. but also just a way for white hair stripe agatha to win at the end of the day. it would also be a way for them to insert both in places for cameos (and PLEASE a second season omg) that would make sense because it would a) be stupid to waste kathryn & aubrey’s talents like that & b) why else would they be in tha new marvel logo if they weren’t appearing in other places?
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aparticularbandit · 3 months ago
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Okay but:
1) How did Billy know where Agatha was? Did he know she was under a spell before finding her in Westview, or did he figure that out once he was there? (Agnes's screen time is straightforward by her perception but not necessarily analogous to what happens to everyone else outside of her perception.)
2) Were there really three years between WandaVision and DSMOM? The official timeline sets it in 2024 (after WandaVision in 2023 - it also sets it before Hawkeye, which I disagree with, but not the point), which means no. But Agatha All Along takes place in 2026. Why did it take an extra two years for Rio to show up to free Agatha - as part of her job (her words in episode one, and I don't think her lines are jaded by Agnes's perception - I think Rio's words cut through that - even if Agnes wouldn't have understood them the way Agatha would)?
3) Agnes's worldview switched from nosy neighbor in a sitcom to detective in a crime show so suddenly, and the show implies this happened as a result of Wanda's death - since she's investigating that crime - but why did it take two additional years for that to happen? Why didn't it happen immediately when Wanda died? (Deadpool and Wolverine is theorized to take place in that universe's 2023, so they could have set Agatha All Along earlier; Agatha All Along kept getting pushed back - did Jac always intend for it to be three years, regardless of when the show aired?)
Which really leads to:
4) What is the significance of three years? Why is all of this happening now and not immediately after Wanda's supposed death? Rio says Wanda is gone, so Agatha should be able to claw herself free - why did it take two years after Wanda's supposed death for Rio to show up if Wanda really died in DSMOM? (Rio says she's gone; she doesn't say she's dead.)
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killing-hannibals-body · 1 month ago
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People hating on Billy calling him the “white twink” (y’all wanna say f*g so badly, and don’t get me started on ya’ll calling him white) like he isn’t a traumatized gay, Jewish, teenager.
I’m a hardcore Agatha and Rio shipper myself (getting a tattoo in January hellooooo), but acting like his character wasn’t important to the central story and took time away from the ship when SO many comic fans were thrilled to finally have Billy on their screens. I watched episode 6 with a friend who happens to be a gay man, and he almost cried.
Plus, from the perspective of LBGT+ rep: once again, I love Rio and Agatha, but Agatha is a serial killer. I repeat: a serial killer. One could argue that she’s not good representation (not me, any representation is good representation), but now we have Billy: a sweet teenage boy who happens to be gay. Look. A hero who is gay. He’s going to be in the Young Avengers, and he’s gay. That’s a big deal.
You can argue that Agatha’s series wasn’t the place for his introduction, but I don’t see people complaining about Lilia’s episode. In fact Marvel now plans to introduce Jennifer to the general MCU. Are we upset about that?
Look, I wanted more Rio and Agatha scenes as much as the next person, but I’m not about to use practical slurs to tear down a character who means so much to so many people who is also a literal gay child.
As a lesbian shipper, I get that we often feel pushed under the rug. I’ve posted about it before plenty of times. But to act like the main love interest of the main character being a woman which resulted in no one batting an eye at her orientation, her able to make a gay joke, an almost kiss and then a FULL ON MAKEOUT session in one of the most sexless franchises on the planet isn’t a win…gosh, if that isn’t a win, I don’t know what is.
Jac Schaeffer has also apologized (though I really don’t feel like she needed to) for any mishaps and lack of scenes that she now regrets. I feel confident that when (not if, but when) a season 2 comes around and if Jac is at the helm, she’s learned her lesson.
But let’s be clear here: we shippers can get in over our heads and ignore the point of a show in favor of our own agenda. Let’s not forget that this is a Marvel TV show which is all about comic books and superheroes, not romance.
I’ve seen non-marvel companies fumble wlw couples HARD. The fact that this really isn’t, to the general viewer, a fumble on the superheroes in tights production company says a LOT.
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taraljc · 2 months ago
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One thing that always struck me in WandaVision was how Wanda used her powers in ways she hadn't since Age Of Ultron. Once she joined the Avengers, we never see her in Civil War or Infinity War use her powers to control anyone else's minds and bodies, or to induce hallucinations / nightmares.
I think that it is a part of her powers that she rejected--that she herself felt ashamed for using them against the people who would later become her peers. Particularly Steve, who was the first she formed a bond with and who trusted her when she told him the truth about how Tony Stark was incapable of seeing reason vis à vis Ultron.
The only time we ever see her use her ability to control others by imposing her will upon them was when she had the soldiers retrain their guns on Director Hayward. and the only time we see her induce an hallucination again was with Agatha. Hayward and Agatha were the villains of the piece in the traditional sense and she felt justified in her behaviour, but that doesn't mean that it was right and moral.
But I do think that was the moment when she stopped hating that part of herself and recognised that she had been closing parts of herself off because she was uncomfortable with them. And it was in a way her accepting culpability for her prior actions as well as recognising that power is neither innately good nor evil but merely a tool that can be put to any purpose and it's the intention that matters.
I don't think Teen has processed yet what truly happened with Agatha, Jen, and Lilia when his powers manifested. I think he feels deep regret and shame, coupled by remorse and guilt about what he in that moment believes to be his culpability in their deaths. obviously this will be short-lived, and I think it will be very interesting to see their reactions once they catch up to Agatha and Teen.
One of the parallels that I am really enjoying them exploring are the parallels between both Agatha and Wanda, and Wanda and Teen. I actually hope that Agatha is able to help Teen understand and accept his power in all the ways she wasn't able to help Wanda, not because she wants to siphon his magic but because she genuinely cares no matter how much she hides it behind the various masks that she wears.
Part of the reason I was so angry about Multiverse of Madness is that it completely ignored the fact that no-one knew Wanda was a witch prior to the events in Westview and even then, only Wanda knew any of that. None of the public did. So far as the Avengers and the wider world understood, her powers were the result of a science experiment by Hydra exactly the same way Steve Rogers had been during World War II.
Only she knew what had happened in Westview, and she had to process that information in complete isolation while being corrupted by the Darkhold, but with no knowledge whatsoever of the history of witchcraft or its place in the world when compared to sorcery.
And instead of actually exploring that, it's completely skipped because it's inconvenient to the story they want to tell, which had no actual basis in Wanda's story thus far. Stephen Strange and Wong act as if it's common knowledge that Wanda is practicing witchcraft and that they had always known that Wanda was practicing witchcraft which is a HUGE continuity error that no-one has ever actually addressed. And it bothers me a great deal because so much of the plot of the film hinges on knowledge that there is no way anyone could have gained. To the point where I've basically discounted it completely as not part of the MCU because it doesn't fit. none of the pieces fit with the other films and it doesn't build off of the first film well nor does it fit with WandaVision and it's just so poorly written in direct comparison to Spider-Man: No Way Home.
but what I love about Jac Schaeffer is that she has taken the hot mess and character assassination of Multiverse Of Madness and found a way to make it work with everything that has gone before in ways that make sense logically and emotionally. and at no point does it judge Wanda for her actions when she was under the direct influence of the Darkhold and her judgment was completely impaired. But neither does it sugarcoat her actions in Westview. she is responsible, and accepts responsibility for her actions even though her actions were not under her control and she was unaware of the true extent of them until Agatha kidnapped her children and gave her her first lesson in the craft.
Much like the events of Civil War where Wanda was able to partially contain an explosion created by former SHIELD/Hydra agents that would have murdered countless thousands of people (not to mention brought the entire building down) she still bore the guilt for those deaths she could not prevent and shouldered responsibility for them in public even though they were not her fault and in fact she spared everyone in the immediate area through her quick thinking.
Wanda has always accepted that she deserves whatever misfortune befalls her because she somehow deserves her pain. It's survivor's guilt taken to be extreme and that's I think why WandaVision hit me so hard because of course she doesn't deserve loss after loss after loss with no comfort and no family to support her-- found or otherwise. No-one does.
I genuinely hope that Teen avoids this fate because he doesn't deserve it, either. He's only a few years younger than his mother was when she was duped by Hydra, and I hope that Agnes will be a better tutor and mentor to him even if it is only for the final four episodes of the series.
The first episode would not have mentioned how absorbing Rio's power would destroy Agatha without that being Chekhov's gun. but my hope is that it won't be permanent, even if it is inevitable.
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itberice · 2 months ago
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My theory on Agatha and Rio in the final episodes:
This is pure speculation!!!
So I will start by saying that I do not think we will be getting any sort of happy ending. That has been clear from the information we have gotten. It's obvious that Agatha and Rio still love each other, but it's also obvious that they hate each other too. I won't guess as to exactly what happened with the Nicholas situation, but it seems like a lot (probably too much) of damage was done to their relationship.
This post is more about this scene:
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and building off of this post.
I think there are really two parts to the trials on the Witches' Road. There has been a group Coven act to pass each trial: they have to make a potion with a strand of everyone's hair, rock out to Lorna Wu's version of The Ballad of the Witches' Road, the punishment of Agatha, and then the Tarot reading. The completion of these acts has allowed them to pass the trial and move on.
But there has also been another part to the trials: a very profound and personal journey for each witch during their specific trial. This is where Agatha's trial was different. Every other witch worked through their past trauma and passed the second part of the trial. The Coven passed Agatha's trial and the group was allowed to move on. But Agatha did not pass the emotional part of her trial.
So that brings us to the final two episodes. I believe that this scene:
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will be Billy's chance to work through his trauma and answer "Am I William or am I Billy?"
Neither Jennifer nor Billy are with Agatha and Rio in The Scene™ which leads me to believe that this is a result of one of the betrayals or they have passed all their trials and have completed the Road.
...but Agatha has not. And who is the only person that can get under Agatha's skin enough, antagonize her enough, to get her to deal with her past? Rio.
**Spoilers at this point**
We know from some audio in a trailer that Rio is calling Agatha a coward at some point. And in the last episode, Lilia said "When she calls you a coward, hit the deck." We know that they will fight. We also know that Agatha gets her powers back; the thing that she wants most at the end of the Road.
My conclusion is: Rio is going to antagonize, bait, harass and provoke Agatha into dealing with her trauma. And this is how we will learn the story of what happened between them.
This scene will be a continuation of their fight from episode 1. But ultimately, I think that forcing Agatha to face her pain will benefit her and allow her to complete her trial (and the Road).
We know that they can't kill each other, for whatever reason, from episode 1 so that isn't a motivation for either of them in this scene. We also know that Jac Schaeffer and Mary Livanos understand the importance of what this show has done for LGBTQIA+ representation in the Marvel universe. I do not think they will ruin this relationship completely.
I don't think that Agatha and Rio will have a happy ending. But I also do think that their fight will be for Agatha's benefit (in a twisted kind of way) and she will get her prize.
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