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rewatched dream productions and i finally got around to drawing these two dorks. love em!!! i was also testing some stuff out with the brushes and all. Didn't Quite get what I was going for but I still like how this turned out :]
(also yeeeas inb4 anyone points it out, the dream productions logo isn't the official one, was too lazy to look up the actual thing so i made my own. weh)
#dream productions#pixar dream productions#pixar inside out#inside out#inside out 2#technically but also. not really#dream productions xeni#dream productions paula#paula persimmon#xeni#do we know his last name. is it dewberry???#gene art#ive also been busy with life stuff. and also working-slash-finding work so !#havent been on here very much but i do check innn
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Necessary Evil
Pairing: Bucky x Reader (Cheek to Cheek)
Word Count: 1,816
Warnings: nothing crazy, typical canon violence type stuff, special character appearance👀
A/N: so sorry for not posting this like two days ago when i said i was going to🥴 ive had a ton going on and ive been a busy bee but hopefully ill get myself organized for next week :) question for yall! should i keep the friday posting schedule or do thursdays instead bc of fatws on fridays? lmk!
MAIN MASTERLIST | CHEEK TO CHEEK MASTERLIST
It’s been a confusing couple of weeks. You’ve been placed on a temporary leave while you finish your recovery after the last mission.
You’ve been trying to learn as much about your new powers as you can, not really understanding what they are or how they work considering that most of the time they’ve shown themselves it’s been accidental.
Making Bucky drop food, slamming doors shut, sending stuff flying across the room. At this point you’ll tape your hands at your sides if it means you’ll stop making such a mess everywhere.
Everything has been put on halt. You don’t cook, in fear of starting a fire or making a mess in your kitchen, you don’t spar with anyone or workout unless it’s in a closed off and sealed training room used for when the Hulk was at the tower, in fear of hurting people around you, and unfortunately, you haven’t let Bucky be around you much in fear of hurting him.
He tells you that you’re not going to hurt him and that even if you did he wouldn’t take it personally, but you just can’t bring yourself to do it. The two of you got into a heated argument a few days ago when he offered to let you use him as a practice dummy for your new powers.
“How dare you suggest something like that to me?!”
“Well, I just meant that -”
“Meant what? How would you feel if I asked you to slap me around like a ragdoll with your metal arm? Make you go Winter Soldier on me?”
“That’s not the same thing, and you know it.”
“Isn’t it though?”
It wasn’t pretty.
It also didn’t help that Bucky was sent on a solo mission recently. He couldn’t tell you much about it, and you didn’t push it, knowing the two of you were still a bit rocky with each other, and knowing that it would only put more stress on you constantly thinking about his mission.
Boy, did you miss him though. You’re glad you put aside your pride to hug and kiss him goodbye, taking in his warmth, his love, his smell, savoring his arms around you and his lips on yours before he left. With the way he held and kissed you, you think he felt the same.
That was two days ago. Alpine has been the one to keep you the most company. She’s gotten big, and it’s a lot more fun to play around with her now. You trail a feather attached to the end of a string around the ground while she tries to pounce after it. A knock at the door doesn’t even pull her attention away from the toy as you let her win and catch it, standing up from your sitting position on the floor.
You open it to reveal Sam in more casual clothes than his regular tactical pants and shirt, and you return the smile he gives you.
“You busy?” He asks.
You look over your shoulder to see Alpine still pawing at the feather on the ground.
“No, I’m not busy, what’s up?”
“Just wanted to hang out, we both got the day off, figured I’d show you the best danishes in New York.”
You’re not sure if Bucky put him up to this or if this is a way to keep you from going batshit being stuck in your room not being able to do anything, but you accept the offer anyway. It’ll be nice to get some air.
“Do you, uhm,” You begin, feeling a bit embarrassed.
“What’s up?” Sam asks, the guy from the VA coming out, encouraging you to tell him.
“Do you know if Bucky’s okay? I haven’t heard from him, is all.” You ask, slipping on some shoes and heading back out into the hallway with Sam.
“I mean, I’m sure he’s fine, why wouldn’t he be?”
“Just that I know these solo missions can be anywhere and he could be doing anything, but I still worry. I didn’t know if you knew where he was or anything.”
He doesn’t. He doesn’t know, because Bucky told him Steve asked him for a few favors and he needed some off time for a couple of days. He thought Bucky was in rural New York. There’s no mission. But he supposes he’s not supposed to tell you that.
“Yeah, I don’t know much about it. Fury’s probably the one behind it.” Fury’s in Florida for his niece’s sixth birthday. He doesn’t tell you that either.
Luckily you accept it and enter the elevator to leave the private floor and go to the common area, able to leave out the backway of the tower.
“Avenger in the building, Captain.”
Sam doesn’t understand. Avenger? Who’s even around anymore?
“Uh, huh? Bucky?”
“No, Captain.”
“Clint?”
“No.”
“Who’s here?”
“Underoos.”
Underoos? Where has he heard that? Isn’t that -
The elevator doors open to the common room, a teenage boy stands with his back towards the two of you. His head whips around in typical teenage fashion and your eyebrows shoot up, unaware that the Avengers recruited teenagers.
“Is that a fucking kid?”
“Peter?” Sam asks, clearly surprised at the boy being in front of him. He hasn’t seen him in years. He wasn’t even sure where he was all this time, assuming he was in school, with his Aunt, but now he’s here.
“Sam! And his lady... friend. How are you?!”
“The lady friend has a name.” You chirp.
“What are you doing here?”
You and Sam speak at the same time. Peter addresses you first, “And your name is…?”
“Uh, Agent 51.” You didn’t think that through.
“Weird name, but alright.”
“Peter.” Sam brings his attention back to his question.
“Who is this guy?” You ask, clearly lost on who this person is and how he’s an Avenger.
“This is Spider-Man.” Sam tells you nonchalantly.
“Uh- Sam?!” Peter exclaims.
“What, she works with us, now. She doesn’t have anyone to tell anyway.”
“Sam?!” You elbow him.
“Why are you here, Peter.” Sam asks again.
“Well, you know, I was in school, doing some stuff here and there for Hill and Fury, and I figured I’d stop by.” He smiles.
You and Sam stare in silent confusion.
“Okay, look. I feel… lost. Like I feel like I’ve come to terms with Tony dying and stuff, but, I don’t know...” Peter finally cuts to the point.
You know very little about Spider-Man. You definitely didn’t know he was a kid, but you also didn’t know that he had some sort of a close relationship with Tony Stark. You’re becoming more and more like Bucky everyday; not knowing who any of these people are, not remembering seemingly important events, hell, not even knowing have these things happened because you were under Hydra.
“Peter, we don’t -”
“I’m not asking for help. More so asking if you have anything for me to do, or something.” His smile falls. You’re definitely confused, but you feel for the guy. You remember feeling lost as a teenager, losing the people you looked up to. And that lost feeling landed you in the Marines and the Marines landed you with a terrorist organization. We should help him, you immediately think.
“I’m sorry, man.” Sam offers. He wants to help Peter, as annoying as he finds him. Being a teenager is hard, and being Spider-Man is harder. But, Sam can’t forget that he’s still a kid in school with only his aunt and a few friends around him. He doesn’t want to put a person like that in the immense danger they throw themselves into, even if he knows he can handle it.
“No worries, I’ll be on my way, then.” Peter nervously scratches at his eyebrow.
“Sure you don’t want to stick around here for a bit? I know the Avengers aren’t much of a thing anymore, but, you always got a room here; a place to stay.” Sam tells him, assuming Peter’s on the verge of having a sort of coming-of-age moment.
“No, no, I need to be with May. I’ll see if I can, uh, maybe stop by more often. Maybe. If that’s alright. Nice to meet you, uh, Miss 51!” He bids farewell before walking away awkwardly, leaving Sam with a sort of sullen look on his face and you still very confused.
“What was that whole thing about?” You finally break the silence as you two make your way towards the private garage elevators.
“I’ll tell you over danishes.”
Bucky plants his fist into the HYDRA soldier’s face for the sixth time, the sound of metal hitting flesh making a slushy sound with little clanks, signifying teeth hitting the floor.
“This is the last time I ask you before I kill you. Where is Bychkov, Morozov, and that fuck with metal arms?” He pants beneath the black mask and goggles, an outfit he hadn’t dawned in so long.
Your list is heavy in his pocket, he thinks about the names he’s already crossed off and few he has left. He’s not going to stop until he finds the handlers that captured you and the supposed soldier with metal arms that shot you, details you only mentioned to him once after a nightmare that he refused to ever forget.
“They… went back… to base… in Kiev. Just… north of it.” He struggles out.
One step closer. Bucky stands taller, letting the man slump on the ground, and he reaches for the knife at his thigh.
“Wait! I - I told you… where they went!”
“I was going to kill you whether you told me or not, you Nazi fuck.” Is all he says before he slashes the knife, ending the bastard’s life.
Leaving the man’s home, he rounds a corner into the night and replaces his knife, taking out a pen in one of his many pockets as well as your list.
He crosses off Antonov, looking down at the four remaining names, two of which were the men that did this to you.
He takes a breath, the layers of leather and kevlar straining over his muscles as he sighs. He never thought he’d be hunting people down like this, Nazi or not. He never thought he’d have this black mask and these goggles over his eyes. But he also never thought HYDRA would touch the love of his life the way they did; never thought they’d put you in that chair.
So, now, he’s only getting revenge. It’s the least he can do after this organization has stolen his life, kept him from seeing his family forever, took his arm, gave him PTSD, gave his girlfriend PTSD and injected her with who knows what only to put her in that goddamn chair.
While he never thought he’d be in this position, they asked for it, and he’s not sorry.
On to the next name.
#bucky barnes#bucky barnes x reader#bucky barnes fanfictions#marvel#bucky barnes series#idk if yall know this but i love spiderman#my fav marvel character#love him more than bucky i just don't read or write for him for some reason idk i just never got into that#and the new spiderman is coming out in december !#i slowly want to incorporate characters into c2c#like i added wanda and plan to write a oneshot or two delving into her and reader meeting and getting to know each other#and then the loki series comes out in june so maybe ill play w that#im just not sure if ill adapt c2c to fatws#depends where it goes and how it ends#we'll see#anyway#yall know u can always send ideas or requests for me to play around with#thanks for reading if you made it this far
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Five things Han Solo believed in (and one that proved them all wrong)
A/N: I was going to post this one last Scoundress Saturday but it's a bit more Han-centric and I had the other fic ready anyway. It actually started as a response to a headcanon prompt about beliefs, and then it inspired me to write my take on the legendary “five (x) this character (x) and one that (x)�� trope. Happy Hump Day!
I.
He's not jaded; he's just lived. Seen stuff, heard stuff. Had stuff happen to him. Been to many corners of the galaxy, from ritzy casinos to the lowest hole-in-the-walls. Everywhere, some people struggle and some people take advantage, some assholes live and some good folk die… or worse. When you've lived enough, you see there's no bigger plan. There's no god, no all-powerful force or mystical energy behind anything that happens. How could it? If such a thing existed, why would they let awful things happen? No, it's people who control their own destiny, and sometimes the destiny of others. One thing is for sure: nobody controls where Han Solo goes.
II.
The truth is, rich people can afford to be idealists. Okay so, the princess lost everything now, but she got her ideals when she still had a family, money, a roof over her head, four meals a day, people who loved her, protected her, respected her. Han gets it. It's even kind of their duty to fight for justice, freedom, and all that shit for everyone. That's just fine. But he, and people like him, they got to eat. He's not in this for the revolution. He's certainly not in this for the princess who, feisty as she might be, is also ungrateful and rude for someone whose ass he just saved. He did it for the money, which by the way is what he needs to save his own ass. And even if he didn't? He'd still look for number one.
III.
In matters of life and death, he prefers to be on the "life" side. That means he can't go risking his neck for people he doesn't even know, doesn't even care about. Is that so wrong? Ain't nobody looking after him—well, except for Chewie. Chewie now, Dewlanna then. Seems like only Wookiees ever cared about whether Han lived or died. His mother, too, but that was too long ago to count. Why does it make him a mercenary, to take care of himself? Somebody has to. People act like they're owed a rescue or something. And Han, fuck it, he always ends up giving in. Can't afford to throw away a potential reward, after all.
IV.
She likes him because he's a scoundrel, and she's probably spent most of her life being courted by well-mannered lords with too much perfume and too little passion. Oh, she soon proved him she isn't naive or inexperienced, but she's been busy and grieving for far too long. People respect her as a leader, but they're too careful around her sometimes. None of them offer her freedom. None of them challenge her. None of them shove their impropriety on her face. So she likes him because he's new and wild and freeing, and she doesn't need to tie her fate down to his. He's making sure of that. That is all. And that's fine.
V.
He has everything under control. He has to throw out Jabba's spice, but he'll make it up to the Hutt. He has to take the trip to Alderaan and, after he gets stuck inside an Imperial superweapon, help get everyone out safely, even though he doesn't really give a shit about those people, but he'll get away with his hard-earned money in the end. He has to come back to help the kid take out the Death Star, but after that, no more distractions. He has to stay for three and a half years with the rebels, because he just knows they won't make it without him, knows he can use the money, knows Luke and Leia are too reckless to stay out of trouble, his debt and Jabba's anger piling up on him, but still, everything under control. He has to go out for Luke, has to come back for Leia, nearly dies both times and more—but he doesn't, because he knows what he's doing. He has to fly through an asteroid field. Has to crawl to an old friend-slash-enemy for help. Has to fall in love with a princess even though he has nothing to offer her. Everything is under control until it isn't—but that's not his fault.
VI.
Someone who loves you, she says when she pulls him back from that thick, inescapable darkness and into her arms. As he trembles, retches and stumbles, as they take Leia away and lock him up and he finds out from Chewie that all their lives depend on the man who betrayed them and the friend who apparently calls himself a Jedi now, Han realizes he has nothing under control, and maybe some things have been his own fault. He doesn't like to know the odds, but he knows they're probably high against them.
Somehow, they escape unharmed, killing Jabba and all his goons, and that's when it dawns on Han that all these people risked their lives for him. Turns out there's more than just Chewie who care about him now. Love him, even. Luke and Leia, they'd risk their lives for just about anyone, he knows. They're not like him, they fight because it's the right thing to do, not because there's a credit chip at the end line or an underdog to save. Han used to do what he had to, or almost, to survive, but look where that got him.
Still, that's not why they came back for him: in the great balance of things, he's just one person. If it was just selflessness and justice, they would have stuck with the Alliance instead of putting their necks on the line for him. No, they came because they care. Leia came because she loves him.
Han grudgingly accepts there might be some truth to the Force. They wouldn't be alive otherwise. It's not a comfortable thought to find himself powerless to the whims of a bigger cosmic force—but maybe that's just not what it means. Or maybe he doesn't care anymore. It's not like he could stop it. And anyway, just because things worked out this time doesn't mean his luck won't run out one day, or that people all over the galaxy aren't being screwed over by these mighty powers that be. But there's gotta be something that led him here, to the arms of the woman he loves, to the carbonite, to Cloud City, to Hoth, to Yavin IV, to the Death Star, to Chalmun's Cantina. To these fools who care about him against all odds. Something like fate pushing him in the right direction. He's risked his life for them many times, too, but he always kept a foot out, just in case.
That ends now. He's not leaving again. And if he's staying, he might as well fight to make sure they—and everyone else—get a galaxy worth living in. It's time to be a bit of an idealist again.
#han solo#hanleia#han x leia#hslofanfiction#star wars fanfiction#2019#one-shot#rated T#death tw#suicide tw#only word mention but still tagging just in case!
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Sifu Glen Doyle is a martial arts practitioner and instructor. He is a former Kung Fu champion and practices Irish Martial Arts.
There’s a sense of comfort that you get right away when you cross over certain martial arts…
Sifu Glen Doyle – Episode 360
Learning how to fight is sometimes instilled into us on a very early age. Sifu Glen Doyle learned boxing as soon as he began speaking because of his father. Later on, he would turn into martial arts such as Kung Fu and stick fighting. What makes Sifu Doyle special is that he practices Irish Martial Arts traditions that are part of his roots. Sifu Glen Doyle has a lot to tell so, listen to find out more!
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Jeremy Lesniak:
Hello and welcome to this show. This is whistlekick Martial Arts Radio episode 360. Today, I’m joined by Sifu Glen Doyle. My name is Jeremy. I’m the founder at whistlekick. I’m your host on the show. And martial arts is a huge part of my life. So huge that it became my career. You can check out all the things that we work on at whistlekick. Many of those things, I am personally involved in over at whistlekick.com. Don’t forget. If you buy something, use the code PODCAST15. Save this 15%. It’s a thank you from us to you and honestly, lets us know that this podcast is worth doing. Because let’s face it. This is a business and we’ve got to make some money somewhere because I need to it. Not a lot but I do need to eat something.
Here we are, 360 episodes in and we’re still finding new martial arts to talk about. Did you know that there were Irish martial arts traditions? Well, today’s guest not only has family lineage through Irish martial arts but also something that most of us would consider more contemporary, more conventional in that Kung Fu. So, we not only get to talk about each of those arts but the contrasts, the similarities between the two, and the wonderful story that unfolds as Sifu Doyle talks about his life and his navigation through both of those arts and what it meant to him and his family. So, hold on, listen, and learn something. Sifu Doyle, welcome to whistlekick Martial Arts Radio.
Glen Doyle:
Thank you very much. Happy to be here.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I’m happy to have you here. Now, listeners, this was one we were chatting just before we started the episode that I think we were both afraid that this might be the episode that didn’t happen. There were a number of power outages on both ends. It was crazy. I’ve had issues with losing power here. I’ve has issues with guests losing power there. I don’t think we’ve ever had an episode scheduled for a time where both sides lost power.
Glen Doyle:
I like to respond like an echo.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Awesome. But we’re here now and I appreciate your flexibility in rescheduling. I’ve been looking forward to talking to you.
Glen Doyle:
My pleasure, my pleasure.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Great. Well, let’s start the way we start a martial arts show. We need some background. We need some basics. We need to learn how to make a fist and punch as it were with who you are. So, how did you find martial arts?
Glen Doyle:
Well, I mean, I was more or less, not to sound melodramatic, but I was kind of born into it. My dad was a boxer. And he boxed for a number of years. Mostly when he was in the Canadian Armed Forces but he was always boxing. And so, he started me whether I wanted to or not. In 1969, when I was 4 years old, he put on the boxing gloves and I got my first lesson. And it went on till however long dad was alive. He started me boxing and then in 1972, he started me in stick fighting. And then I wanted to branch out and learn other styles and stuff. So, in and around 1981, I branched out and joined a Chinese Kung Fu club in Toronto. And I stayed with that club until my Sifu, Sifu Lore King Hong, passed away in 2008. So basically, from 1969 to present has been my martial arts path. But I got basically involved in it with my dad started punching at me and didn’t give me a choice but to punch back, so.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Wow. All right. So, you’ve got a couple of different things going on, a few different martial arts.
Glen Doyle:
Uh-hum.
Jeremy Lesniak:
And one of the things that I find personally fascinating is how people start to relate those back to each other.
Glen Doyle:
Right.
Jeremy Lesniak:
So, what does that look like for you?
Glen Doyle:
Well, I mean, you could… If I go into boxing and if comparing boxing in Gung Fu, a punch is a punch. No matter how you do it, it’s just going to be a different way of explaining with or a different way of executing it. But the end result is the same – you’re trying to hit something. The comparisons that I always was a little more interested in was the stick fighting style that my dad taught me was from our family. It’s an Irish stick fighting style. And when I branched out and explored the other martial arts, be into Gung Fu and then I dabbled in some Filipino stick fighting, I just thought it was really interesting the geographically, the two countries – Ireland and Philippines – are so far apart. But when you put a stick in a hand, there’s going to be some principles that are going to be very similar and some are going to be completely different. So, I was always amazed at the way the footwork might be explained differently but the end result’s the same. And sometimes, the footwork looks almost the same. So, it reiterates and it just emphasizes to me that if you’ve got 2 legs and 2 arms or you’re basically a human being, you’re only going to move a certain way so many times or a certain way so many different times and things are going to crossover. So, as a martial artist, when I branched out into other arts that weren’t culturally the same as mine, there was a nice kind of camaraderie built up in my mind right away. Because it was like, wow, this isn’t so different. I’m not in such a foreign land after all. This is great. And there’s a sense of comfort that you get right away when you crossover certain martial arts. When you find the similarities, it’s like you’re home but you’re not. You’re on the road but your home is… It’s like when you go travelling, you take a big suit case and you want to have a lot of your stuff around you even though you’re in a bizarre place or a different place because you have that bit of that comfort, because you’ve got some items from your home that make you feel a little more comfortable. And I think, when you crossover two different martial arts together, that familiarity is what makes you feel comfortable and allows you to really open your learning curve and really kind of accept the techniques more readily, more instinctively rather than just kind of forcing a square peg into a round hole. If that makes any sense.
Jeremy Lesniak:
It certainly does. I’ve spent a bit of time doing some Filipino stick work and I would imagine that 90% of the folks listening who have engaged in stick work have done it through some kind of Filipino Eskrima or Arnis, you know, Southeast Asian tradition.
Glen Doyle:
Uh-hum.
Jeremy Lesniak:
You said that you had done some sort. Are you able to relate to us the… I expect a lot of similarities but where are the differences?
Glen Doyle:
Well, I mean, the Filipino style that I dabbled in – when I say dabbled, please understand, I’m not professing that I studied it a long time or I’m really super-efficient
Jeremy Lesniak:
Sure, sure.
Glen Doyle:
But I dabbled in it and the fact that I did often on for a number of years because one of the instructors at the Kung Fu club that I was training was from Cebu City in the Philippines.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Uh-hum.
Glen Doyle:
And anytime he was teaching a class, if I had the time to do it, I would jump in and play around with it. It was called Arnis. It was… That’s crazy. Just falling out of my head now.
Jeremy Lesniak:
That’s okay.
Glen Doyle:
Lapunti Arnis De Abanico, there you go. Sorry. And Abanico, I believe, is fan style if I’m not mistaken. And it’s a single-hand stick fighting style. Which is the biggest difference between what I was taught with from dad which was two-handed. And the stick is a lot longer in the Irish system, a little heavier because the blackthorn is a heavier wood. Where the Filipino system is using the rattan. A lot of whirling strikes in the Filipino systems are very fast, explosive. And I found that I like the way that the multiple quick hits, the rapid hits in the Filipino system is something I really love. They were so different from the Irish stuff. So, I was like a kid in the candy store when I first played around with it, so.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Nice. It almost… You know, I have some Irish roots. In fact, my father lives to the south side of Cork. I’ve used some blackthorn sticks. They’re durable, they’re heavy. So, is the stick fighting tradition that you come from, that you’re passing on, is there some synergy there with bladed weapons?
Glen Doyle:
No.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Okay.
Glen Doyle:
The only connection to bladed weapons is… Basically, the Irish stick fighting came to be simply because of penal laws and whatnot. Irish citizens especially the peasants weren’t allowed access to weapons. A lot of Irish men fought in foreign armies in the 1700s or 1800s. And they learned fencing, they learned sword playing with foreign armies. So, when they came back, that’s all they had to drop on. But because they didn’t have access to bladed weapons, they used stick. And they had to adapt the slashing and stabbing motions for more thumping and striking. So, the only kind of influence in any kind of bladed weapon would be the way the system was approached. Because all, at one point, all Irish stick fighting systems for one-handed based on sword fight but with a stick in your hand. And then somewhere in my family line, my great great great great great uncle, I think it go back five or six generations, he was a pugilist and he decided to put two hands on stick. And the stick was then parallel to the ground, horizontal. And it changed the way we approach the stick fighting. So, any kind of access or comparison to bladed weapons kind of really disappeared when that happened. And now, the pugilist of the boxing influence kind of took over. It became a much more close quarter kind of thing. We had to get in close. Which when you have a stick, you want to keep the opponent on the end of your stick. So, you want to have them on that last six or eight inches for maximum velocity. And then here’s something my dad taught me where it’s like close in, close in. But I have this long stick why do I have to close in? But that would probably be the only… If I could really say any kind of bladed. But there’s no other weapons in the system I learned from my dad. It’s just the blackthorn. That’s it. No knives, no nothing else. So. Yeah.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Okay. Interesting. I’m going to have to find some video. Do you have a video? Is there a video of this thing?
Glen Doyle:
Yeah. I have a bunch of stuff up on YouTube.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Okay, cool.
Glen Doyle:
Just the live stuff; me teaching some seminars. It’s not instructional.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Okay.
Glen Doyle:
It’s just in a collage fed to some music. I had a website for a while when… I had to get permission from my dad to teach it outside the family. And that was the whole story itself. And I had website up. It just had pictures on it. And I got a lot of emails and a lot of communicational people. You can’t tell much from a picture. You can only tell so much. And a lot of the feedback, I’m not going to go into it, was oh my god, this to this and I would do this and it was all this kind of stuff. And I just kind of let it roll off my back for a couple of years. And then I said, you know what? Maybe I’ll just put something I knew just so people can see the motion and the movement. And maybe that will help them understand the pictures they’re seeing. So, I put up a couple of videos. And it was the exact opposite type of feedback. I’ve got people like oh, that’s how it works. And it was definitely the right thing to do. Because you kind of got to see the style to understand it. And then now, I find that people are really… It really launches more questions but they’re more listening with excitement rather than derision.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Uh-hum.
Glen Doyle:
And it was all because I put a few videos up. So, I did that just so people can get a sense of how it looked and how it moved. And I find a lot of Filipino stick fighters actually are the most interested. They love watching it and they make their observations and similarities pop up and the differences. It’s usually a really nice interaction when I talk Filipino stick fighters. They usually have really interesting questions about certain techniques and the style, and how this came to be and how that can be. And then, of course, they’ll bring up wow, it’s very similar to what we do. And then it’s kind of like 2 kids talking over a couple of toys that they have that are very similar, right? So.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah.
Glen Doyle:
Yeah.
Jeremy Lesniak:
And those are some of my favorite conversations with martial artists. And I think those conversations are more enlightening, more productive, more enjoyable when you start from a place of similarity.
Glen Doyle:
Of course. Yes.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Rather than a place of difference. And I mean, I can… I’m trying to think of something that I haven’t done martial arts-wise. Kung Fu might be the furthest from what I’ve done as a complete style. But I can sit down and I can talk with a Kung Fu practitioner and we can start from what do we have in common? We can have a lot of fun. We can maybe even share, spar, and have a good time. Or we can start from differences which tend to be philosophical and that doesn’t help anybody.
Glen Doyle:
No. Usually… Well, it sets the tone, right? Because I think when you come from a place of similarity, then the camaraderie is built right in. If you come from a sense of difference, there’s always this little underlying tone of are you saying your style is better?
Jeremy Lesniak:
Right.
Glen Doyle:
Because it’s so different? I mean, I’ve studied this. I know my style really well. Why are you saying yours is better? And it’s like, you’re not saying that but if you’re coming at them from the differences, people tend to lean towards that. It seems to be kind of human nature. Well, what’s wrong with my style? What do you mean your style’s different? What do are you saying? When you come at the other person from the point of wow, and we do this. It’s very similar to what you do. All of a sudden, they listen with their ears wide open rather than looking for reasons to be offended, right? That’s been kind of my take on it. And when I teach seminars, I always have my opening speech and I always say, I don’t denigrate or take away from any other style. And I always say that I’m saying that we do it this way. I’m not saying it’s better or worse than what you do. I’m just saying you’re different. And that seems to really actually set the tone for the seminar and I knock on wood. I haven’t had any issues at this point, so.
Jeremy Lesniak:
That’s great.
Glen Doyle:
Yeah.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Good. We’ll make sure to link the YouTube channel over on the show notes for this. And for folks that might be new, if you came in, if this is your first episode, we put the show notes at whistlekickmartialartsradio.com. Now you, a few minutes ago, mentioned a conversation that you had to have with your father to get permission to teach this stick fighting style outside of the family. Would you be willing to share that?
Glen Doyle:
Sure, yeah.
Jeremy Lesniak:
What that was about?
Glen Doyle:
Yeah. Well, I mean, this system was only passed on through family. So, you had to have the surname Doyle to learn it. And they were very strict about that. In Irish traditions, oral tradition is very, very predominant in Irish culture. A lot of times it’s because the occupying forces wanted to kind of diffuse the culture, they wanted to stop the language. Anything to do with individuality or priding your country or where you’re from, they want to kind of take that away. You know what I mean? And so to preserve certain cultural aspects of the country, a lot of things were taught in secret or behind closed doors or secret meetings and whatnot. And that include language and music and whatnot. So, the stick fighting was no different and it was passed on father to son, through family. And if you didn’t have the last name Doyle, you didn’t learn it. And because the stick fighting stuff could differentiate between families. It could differentiate between counties or towns. So, you could have a town that have one stick fighting style. You could have a county that didn’t have the factions from like Tipperary and from Wicklow and Wexford and whatnot. You had the Yellow Bellies, you had the 18:01 There’s a bunch of names that you could… So, they would have a similar style. But anyway, so, ours was based on family name and it was passed on. My dad was very strict about it. When he taught it to me, we spend most of our weekends. He had a full-time job as an iron worker. So, he didn’t have a lot of time during the week. But on the weekends, we’d be doing the boxing and the sticks. And he would always reiterate, this is ours and keep to yourself kind of thing. And eventually, after being in the Kung Fu club for a number of time, my Chinese Kung Fu instructor, Sifu Lore, he was so open because he wanted to share his culture with everyone. And he was amazing that way. And it really rubbed off on me. So, I started saying to my dad, this is such a cool little system and I’m your only son and you’re teaching it to me. But if I walk down the street tomorrow and get hit by a car and get killed, it’s done. It’s gone. And that really bothered me. So, I started asking my dad in the early ’90s. Can I start showing some guys down at the club just some stuff? And he was adamant; no. And my dad… To give you a sense of my dad, to see and get his kind of mindset, the way he was, just a little capsule thing of his personality, he forged my granddad’s signature to join the Canadian military when he was 16. I lied about his age. And he spent his 17th and 18th birthdays on the frontlines in Korea.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Wow.
Glen Doyle:
And he summed up his personality with this – I’m going to keep it clean for the listeners…
Jeremy Lesniak:
For sure.
Glen Doyle:
And if it’s offensive to some people, I do apologize. But it was what he said to me. Because he was really a hard man and I always used to say to him, you’re really hard to people. You speak your mind so you come off rough. And he said, you have to understand me because I killed my first man before I ever slept with my first woman. And that kind of summed up my dad for me. And I mean, there’s no part of my… And you can edit that out, too, if it’s not appropriate. I have no…
Jeremy Lesniak:
No, absolutely not. I think that’s pretty important.
Glen Doyle:
It really set his tone for me. Because I can’t even wrap my head around that. No matter much I tried. That sense of what he must have went through at 16, 17, and 18 years of age. I always gave him a wide berth after that. I always try to step back and understand because he was very straight-edge. He was very straightforward and he said what he said. If you didn’t like it, he really didn’t care. So, going back to saying dad, I really want to kind of share it with some other guys at the club, just a few guys at the club, my closest friends. No. He was adamant. And then in late 1997 or early 1998, he got diagnosed with metastatic colon cancer. And he was only given a couple of months. And we spent all the time together. I was very, very fortunate that I got to do everything I needed to do for closure. And the fact that I got to have my last talk with him, I got to hold his hand, I was there when he took his last breath. I mean, the relationship that I had with my dad, if I wasn’t there, it probably would have driven me insane that I didn’t get the goodbye. So, I was very fortunate that I was allowed to share those times. And we talked about a lot of things. And the one thing I brought up again was I really wanted to teach this outside the family. I don’t have any children of my own. So, again, the style is endangered of just becoming extinct if I pass on and don’t teach anyone. And it took a lot of talking but finally, near our last talk, before he went onto morphine and couldn’t talk anymore because he’s in so much pain, he finally gave me permission. And if he had not, you and I would be having a completely different conversation right now and we’d just be talking about Kung Fu. So, yeah. I was very grateful that he eventually relented. Now, do I think he was happy about it? I couldn’t really say. But all I know is he did give permission. And whether it was his last act of love or not, I don’t know. But at the end of the day, he gave me his permission to teach it outside the family. And after, we had his service and I had his ashes and I spread his ashes over our land. We’re from Newfoundland originally. And I started to slowly get the style out there. I mean, I had an interview with Inside Kung Fu and I think it was 1995. And I got into the moment. The new journalist was really, really good. He really played me really well, for lack of a better term. And I blurted out the Irish stick fighting. And then I immediately stopped talking about it. But he didn’t mention it in the article. And the bullyrag that I got from my dad about that, let me tell you, that went on for a couple of years. So, I learned my lesson. But yeah. He basically gave me permission just before he passed away. So, there’s a sentimentality there when I teach as well. It’s like he’s in the room with me, which I love. And it helps me cope. I mean, he’s been gone since ’98. But it just doesn’t seem like… It seems like yesterday to me. I still think about him all the time. And the sticks is a way for me to kind of revisit our time together and stuff. So, there’s a real emotional sentimentality to me teaching it.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Now, when… Those of us that came up in… I guess I think of it as Asian traditions. When I think of the 24:25 Kung Fu style or Karate style, quite often, there’s a family dynamic.
Glen Doyle:
Uh-hum.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Some kind of splinter there. But I haven’t had the opportunity to speak with someone who came from that close-guarded family tradition of a martial arts. So, forgive me as I’m asking you some of these questions that I’ve always wondered knowing that you don’t speak for everyone. But you’re the best I have.
Glen Doyle:
Okay. No problem.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Why? Why was your father so resistant to people learning this family style?
Glen Doyle:
I think it was just the cultural way. It was just cultural and the way he was raised. Again, with it being guarded and not wanting to basically… Like self-preservation, really. I mean, you always want that. If everybody knows your style, then the percentages of being able to counter you go up.
Jeremy Lesniak:
True.
Glen Doyle:
And every system that you ever come across is one-handed. And now suddenly, you come up against this guy and all of a sudden, he starts one-handed and drops his stick into his other hand. And he comes at you from a pugilistic horizontal base stick pattern. It’s going to throw you. And I think, that element of surprise ups the success factor. So, I think it was a combination of it was tradition – it was the way he was taught. And my granddad was probably exactly my dad, a no nonsense Irish man. Do what I say and don’t question me. And I think that coupled with the fact that technically, you’d like to have a surprise or two in your back pocket. I think the combination of those two things in the formula is probably why he was still adamant. Because when I would explain to my dad how if Sifu Lore said, oh I only teach Chinese, I wouldn’t have been learning this amazing stuff that he was teaching me. I could see my dad understanding what I was saying. But the stubbornness of no, we don’t share it because of whatever reason. I could see there was a wall up for the longest time. And I’d be lying to you if I said I understood it. But it’s just I think it was, for lack of a better term, the programming. It was just the way he was raised. And he kept it without being… What’s the word? Not pure but he just didn’t want… He wanted it untainted. And when you get a style and you put it out into the public domain, it gets changed right away. People are going to adapt it to what they think the movement should be or the way they would do it or strategically how they think it works for them. And all of a sudden, the style ceases to become that movement or that way of executing a technique that’s been passed on for generation to generation. And it means he was big on not changing the techniques. Because, like my dad said, the system was… And I think he was talking about all fighting systems. But when he’s pertaining to our sticks, as he said, he was born on a battlefield. And through evolution and through faction fights, techniques that didn’t work, you got your head bashed in. You knew if they didn’t work, they didn’t get passed on. And he said, nowadays, everybody likes to change everything. But most of the people changing the styles aren’t haven’t fought to save their lives. It’s theory or they got padded equipment on. So, they’re not getting punished for their mistakes or it’s a game of tag. And again, I’m not coming down on anybody who spars or anything like that. It’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying what he said to me. And he said, why would you change something that has been proven? But because here in modern day society, now it’s like well, this is faster or flashier and whatnot. But it’s just a theory. I think, for of the thing he was worried at, if I put it out there into the general populace, it was going to get changed a lot. But it would still have our name on it. And he said, if someone changes it and the technique doesn’t work, it still got our name on it. And they go out and try to use the technique and they get their head bashed in, well our name takes the hit. So, that was kind of his kind of approach. And I think that’s one of the reasons he was really adamant aside from the fact that it was tradition that it was just taught to Doyles. And I think he wanted something to pass onto his son that was just for me, I guess. There could have been a father-son dynamic there that I wasn’t picking up on. Because I was all about this. I loved it so much, I just wanted to share it with everyone. A little bit of family pride, and pride is a double edged-sword.
Jeremy Lesniak:
It certainly is.
Glen Doyle:
And so I think that maybe he was trying to dissuade me from that. And I’ve been teaching it outside the family now since just after he passed away. So, it’s been about 20 years and all the stuff he said has happened. It’s been changed, it’s been this, it’s been that. So, he wasn’t wrong. I’ve had to lock away and discontinue associations with a lot of people because of what happened. That dad said would, sadly. So, I have to kind of give my hat to him because he wasn’t wrong. But on the other side of the coin is, I’ve met some amazing people that passed it on and they’re amazing. So, on the other side of the coin, I was right.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Right. Can you talk a little bit more about the stuff he was right about? I’m not asking you to name names or identify anything so clearly that people could infer names.
Glen Doyle:
Yeah. No, no. I wouldn’t do that anyway. But it just… basically, what would happen is a lot of people would come under the guise of oh, I want to learn it the way you learned it. I wanted to stay traditional and I want to learn and then pass it on and whatnot. And really, all what they wanted to do was they wanted to up the 31:16 of their school by saying they offer Irish stick fighting. So, it was more of a business thing. And what they would do is, they would just take certain elements that they like from the system. And they would incorporate it to what they already taught. So, if I did a numbered system… So, let’s say I taught a sequence or there’s a technique that, let’s say, has five movements in a sequence – I’ll try to be really kind of basic here – and we go move it 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. And they take the movement. Well, movement 1 and 2 would be from the Doyle system and then movement 3, 4 and 5 would be from where that they learn. So, it would become a hybrid and it would get infused. And then what happens is it started to… Then the people, they taught would then change it a little bit when they start it. So, two or three lessons down the road, it didn’t even look anything like what I have taught them. Yet it still had our family name on it.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Right.
Glen Doyle:
And you’ll see it. If you search Doyle stick fighting, you’ll find a number of videos on YouTube aside from mine and you’ll see. If you have martial arts eyes, you’ll see exactly what I’m talking about. And I don’t deny anybody that I trained. If someone wrote to me and said, blah, blah, blah, says this and I will not lie. I’ll say yup, he learned under me. But I will also say, but he has changed it a little bit. So, the stuff he’s teaching is influenced or has a flavor of what I taught. But it’s more of what they’ve done to hybridize it. So, I’m very honest but I don’t deny anybody I’ve ever worked with. Even if I no longer teach them, I will still say yup, they learned under me. They came to a seminar. I’m not going to cut off my connection to them that way because I don’t think that’s fair. They did put in the time. I just want to try to keep the style out there the way it was taught to me. So, if somebody comes to me or goes to somebody and wants to learn what was taught back in Ireland, hopefully, they can find somebody who does that. Not somebody’s version of a version of version 33:37
Jeremy Lesniak:
Makes complete sense.
Glen Doyle:
Because some people want that. They want that authentic style. Some people really do. And others are fine with learning the hybrid stuff. They’re fine with it and that’s all fair to them. I have no problem with that. But when your name’s attached to it, when your family… And again, because of the sentimentality and emotional connection to my dad, I won’t lie. There’s a little chip on my shoulder about it. Some days it bothers more than others. But I’ve learned to live with it now. And now, when I teach, I’m very particular hen I teach one-on-one in person. I just started doing an online course on video. I’m going to test that out and see how that plays out. But I don’t want to… Because of a couple of bad experiences, I don’t want to just say I’m not teaching anyone. Because that defeats the purpose as well. I don’t think that’s fair to people who want to learn it. So, I’m trying to find that. It’s like you’re trying to walk that tightrope, right? And you’re going to have to make some concessions which I learned that I had to. And at the same time, every once in a while you’re going to find that one or two or three or four people that are just going to take it the way it was given to you and they’re going to treat it that way. And they’re going to make sure it stays authentic and how it was passed in. And those are the victories that I take. And then all the other ones, I’ve got to spend some time with different people and different personalities and I choose to take the positive away rather than the negative. Because if I keep the negative, man, I’ll just be the grumpiest person in the world. And I don’t want that. So.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I get it. I get it. Now, I can completely see what you’re talking about. It makes a lot of sense.
Glen Doyle:
Yeah. I mean…
Jeremy Lesniak:
The idea that it’s not just a martial art. It’s your lineage. It’s your tie to your father and so many things. And I don’t think anyone else is going to fully embrace that even if they intellectually understand it.
Glen Doyle:
Yeah. It’s a… It’s tough to put into words. And when it first started to get changed and whatnot, I was livid. And I have the Irish temper like everybody else in the family. My initial reactions were very cutting off the nose to spite my face kind of thing. And then I learned that that’s not going to do anything and I have to kind of adapt and take more of a philosophical approach to it. Just see where they were coming from and walk a mile on their shoes just to kind of wrap my head around it. And then it kind of eased the blow a little bit. If that makes any sense.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Sure does.
Glen Doyle:
Yeah.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Now, I’m sure that you almost have walls up to make sure that the Kung Fu is not influencing the stick fighting. But I’m guessing that you don’t have the same rule go in the other way. So, how does the stick fighting influence your Kung Fu?
Glen Doyle:
Again, going back to the beginning when we started talking, the thing about the stick and the Kung Fu, it was all about the similarities. But also, the way I teach the sticks, my dad was very… He taught what he felt like that day. He had a system. He had an agenda of how to teach it but it wasn’t so evident. Like I think he would get me to go over some stuff that he taught me the week before and they based on what I did incorrectly or what I did correctly, that would shape what we work on that day. When I started to teach it, I found that the way I taught it was very much influenced by the way I learned Kung Fu. Meaning, you learn your stances. You learn your foundations, boom, boom, boom, boom. When my dad taught me, I got stances and whatnot. But he got me into the stick punches, then he got me into what the hand was doing. And I know I’m using a lot of terms that people are kind of not going to understand because they don’t 38:05 the style. But he got me chasing the stick and crashing the gates and all these things. But I think, if he had more of a system in place, I probably would have learned it quicker because it took a while. Because, I mean, I was only 7 years old when I started, right? But I find that the Kung Ku influenced me in the way I taught the stick. Because I, for a lack of a better word, I systematized it in the fact that I did stances fist, all footwork, footwork, footwork. Because dad was really big on footwork. But I think, even though he was big on footwork, he kept throwing other things at me just to kind of keep the ball rolling. In his mind, I was learning at a pace that he was happy with. Whereas when I teach, if you don’t get your stances and you footwork, you’re not learning anything else. You’re going to be holding the stick forever doing nothing with it because it’s all going to be from the waist down. And that’s very Kung Fu – stances, stances, stances. Strong horse, strong punch – that’s it. That’s the two things you need before you do anything else. And I got to that point when I taught. The similarities between the footwork was very interesting because we have a thing in our style… Because it comes from fencing footwork initially. And then with the boxing influence, the heels are a little different and we step down heel-toe and then we really calmly drag the back leg when we were dancing. And I found… It’s so amazing because in the Hung Gar style of Gung Fu that I learned, it’s almost exactly the same. When you step from a cat stance, you step down heel-toe and then you pop back into your horse stance. And if I had to explain, the stepping in the Irish stick fighting and the stepping in Kung Fu, if I use heel-toe-drag, it works the exact same for both styles. So, the influence, if you want to use that term, was all about the similarities. The Kung Fu wouldn’t give influence anything technically in sticks. Because I wanted to make sure that the way it was passed onto me, I pass on to other people. So, I very evident about that. But I did use the way of explaining Kung Fu, the way that Kung Fu was taught to me, I did let that influence the way I explain the sticks. So, I hope I’m makings sense the way I put that out for you there. I have a tendency to be quite verbose and quite 40:50 And then at the end of the five minutes, people go, I didn’t understand a damn thing you just said. So.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Well, as you were talking, I’m doing it.
Glen Doyle:
Okay.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I’m taking those steps. And yeah, I can certainly see the similarities there. My experience with two-handed weapons is limited to Japanese style sword and very little. But the footwork there from what I was taught sounds very similar to what you’re describing, so.
Glen Doyle:
Yeah.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Makes all kind of sense.
Glen Doyle:
Yeah. But I’ll do, Jeremy, when we get off, I will send you some video links of me actually teaching.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Oh, perfect.
Glen Doyle:
Just for you. I’ll just send it for you.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Sure. I would watch them
Glen Doyle:
In that way, you can see what we’re talking about. I don’t think it’s going to… I think you’re getting what I’m saying but I think if you see the way I teach it, you’ll go oh, okay. So, I’ll do that for you. I know right now, the listeners are like what about us? But you get special treatment, so.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Well, I appreciate that. I’ve been doing all the work here, so.
Glen Doyle:
There you go.
Jeremy Lesniak:
You and I are doing the work. Listeners, they just get to enjoy all of this. Cool. All right. Well, when you look at this – how do I want to call it – this hybridized martial arts mindset that has become you and these various influences that you have.
Glen Doyle:
Yup.
Jeremy Lesniak:
It’s pretty clear how important your father was. I mean, he started you and gave you this foundation and you’ve added to it and expanded it. But what would you want to add on? If there was someone that you could train with that you haven’t, who would that be?
Glen Doyle:
You mean living or dead? Or just living?
Jeremy Lesniak:
Living or dead. Anywhere in the world, anywhere in time.
Glen Doyle:
My dad was very much influenced by Jack Dempsey.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Okay.
Glen Doyle:
So, I would say probably Jack Dempsey for a couple of reasons. One, because of my dad’s movement was very much like Jack Dempsey. Because he was a big Jack Dempsey fan and also because of the boxing. But also, Jack Dempsey was quite an interesting person because… I don’t know if a lot of people know this but I believe he was in the coast guard, if I’m not mistaken. Now, I could be mistaken about that. And if I am, I apologize. But I know he was in service in some point and I think it was the coast guard. But he taught a lot of self-defense stuff. It wasn’t just boxing. It was knees and elbows and whatnot. So, he was a very, very well-rounded. And I think he would just be an amazing person to train with. Simply because he’s almost what I would say a similar thing to what I do is that he’s got the boxing but then on the other side of the coin, he had the other fighting techniques that were, if you want to call them, street or a little more lower body and upper body. Because with the knees and strikes and the elbows and whatnot. So, I think he would be an amazing person to train with. I would love to talk to him about his mindset. Because he had that ever forward kind of attack. And when my dad used to teach the sticks, he’s always going to say that phrase – ever forward, ever forward. So, just on that alone, I think that would be my choice. I would love to go train with him and just to pick his brain and just to see how he saw the martial world, and see how he would approach it. So, that would be my answer.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Nice. I’m sure from your time training and travelling, teaching – whether it’s your own students or seminars – you’ve got a lot of stories. What’s your favorite one? It can be sad, it can be happy, it can be funny. I love the stories that martial artists have and that’s really the root of this show. It was I just want an excuse to get people to tell me their stories. So, what’s yours?
Glen Doyle:
Wow. Can I get a tone for the story? Do you want a story of me learning from someone or do you want me teaching someone?
Jeremy Lesniak:
The one that… So, here’s the set up. You and I are at a barbecue and we find out that we’re both martial artists.
Glen Doyle:
Uh-hum.
Jeremy Lesniak:
We’re sharing a beer, whiskey or whatever.
Glen Doyle:
Okay.
Jeremy Lesniak:
And I tell you about the ridiculous time that Bill Wallace kicked me in the ear and said some horribly inappropriate things.
Glen Doyle:
Bill Wallace kicked you in the ear, too?
Jeremy Lesniak:
Oh, yeah. And I cannot repeat what he said on the air because it’s that terrible. I’ll tell you after. So, there’s that story. And you’re trying to meet me or one up me with one of your ridiculous or fun or impressive stories from your time. So, what would that story be?
Glen Doyle:
Well, first of all, just let me say that I, too, have been kicked in the ear by Mr. Wallace. So.
Jeremy Lesniak:
It’s a great club to be in, isn’t it?
Glen Doyle:
Yeah. He… I was in Quebec at the Capital Conquest. I was teaching there and it was the first time I met him. He’s an amazing man, don’t get me wrong. But yeah. He just targeted me for the whole weekend. I don’t know what I did but he would not leave me alone. And the sick part of me kind liked the attention but man, it was an interesting thing. So, we have that to share, you and I. Just wanted to say that.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Well, that’s… I train with Mr. Wallace now.
Glen Doyle:
Okay. I don’t know if he remembers me. But if you say my name…
Jeremy Lesniak:
He probably does.
Glen Doyle:
… in Quebec Capital Conquest.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah.
Glen Doyle:
You can see if here remembers me. He might not but.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I bet he does because I’ve seen his memory in action. And it is impressive. This is for you as well as everyone else listening, when he pulls someone up, he’s gotten very good over his years at identifying who’s going to be a great training partner or a great Uke. Someone who will play along, who has the right sense of humor but also has enough skill for him to work with in his demonstrations. So, it is an amazing compliment across multiple factors when he pulls you up.
Glen Doyle:
Yeah. Oh, well that’s… I’ll take that.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah. As you should.
Glen Doyle:
Man. I mean, there’s two stories that I’d love to tell only because I think they really shape me as the instructor that I am. So, maybe that is something you’re interested in. And it’s interesting because, like I said, I have my two main instructors. I have my dad and I have Sifu Lore. And I have kind of one story from each. So, would you like me to just pick one?
Jeremy Lesniak:
You can tell both.
Glen Doyle:
Okay. The first is my dad. And this was when I was young, and I never forgot this. Because I thought at that moment he was the meanest man in the world. And then looking back on it now, it’s an amazing thing. But I was in elementary school. I believe I was in grade 4, maybe grade 5, and for some reason… A little bit about me for people, because people don’t know me, my mom is like 4’11”. My dad was 5’3″. So, I’m 5’4″. I’m a giant in my family. But anyway, I was little. I was a really little kid. So, grade 4 or grade 5. And for some reason, this kid in grade 8 just didn’t like me and was giving me some grief after school. But I was fast, like I could run really, really fast. So, school ended. The bell ran and off I went. I live about 6 blocks from the school. So, I was full out sprint. Jesse Owens would be looking at me going, not bad. Like I was gone. And I got home and he couldn’t catch me. He was close but he didn’t catch me. I got in and my dad was home. He shouldn’t have been but he was home because he got rained out. Because, like I said, he was an iron worker. If the weather’s too rough, they don’t connect the beams up high. So, he was home early. I came in huffing and puffing. He asked me what happened. And I said, oh this boy at school wanted to beat me up but don’t worry, I got away. And without a word, he got up and grabbed me by the back of the head, took me outside where the bully was still there, made me stand up to this guy. And of course, I got my butt handed to me. But when my dad figured that I had enough, he stopped it and took me in. And I felt so betrayed and so angry that my dad would do that to me. And he just looked at me and said, you run today, you’re going to run tomorrow, you’re going to run for the rest of your life. No running. And in retrospect now, I think that was something that I took very, very literally. And it shaped me to who I am. Well, I hated it at that time. I think I’m probably the most grateful for that lesson and all the lessons he’s ever taught. So, that’s the story about my dad and not funnier or humorous but life-changing. And for Sifu Lore, do you remember in China when they had the Tiananmen Square stuff going on?
Jeremy Lesniak:
Oh, absolutely.
Glen Doyle:
Well, they had a big vigil in Toronto which is where I train, where the club is. And Toronto is interesting because it has a number of Chinatowns. So, not just one Chinatown. Toronto has a bunch of them. They kind of pop up. And the main ones aren’t Spadina and Dundas. And the old China town – and again, if people don’t know Toronto, this is not really going to be a good reference but it’s close to where city hall is. And it’s called Old Chinatown. And in the ’80s, it was slowly shrinking. And the big Chinatown about 10 blocks away in a place called Spadina and Dundas was going to be the main big Chinatown. But anyway, they were having a big vigil at the city hall for the Tienanmen Square. And the Chinese community, because our club was so involved in the Chinese community, they hired us to do kind of a crowd control. Because they were expecting a lot of people and they expected them to be passionate. So, we were there. I didn’t want to say security but that’s technically what we were, right? But we’re there just to make sure that nothing got out of hand. So, Sifu got us all together. We all went down. It was a lot of people there. It was a big, big gathering. Everybody had candles and whatnot. And so, at this point, I’m in my late teens or early 20s and we all were. We’re all like young studs, young bucks. So, we’re all faced around this one section and the speech has start. And there’s on guy in the crowd starts to get really passionate and wants to go up and speak. So, he tries to push his way up to the stage. And Sifu’s sitting there and he loved his Tim Horton’s coffee. It’s a rule in Canada, you have to love your Tim Horton’s coffee. But anyway, he was having his coffee. And this guy was really, really passionate. He’s like, I want to go up there and speak. He’s saying this in Chinese. I didn’t know what he was saying but I could tell by his body language that he was getting very, very aggressive. So here, all of us, these young bucks full of piss and vinegar, we do Kung Fu, we’re awesome, we’re going to just… We’re just going to be right out of the movie. We’re going to take care of this. People walked up to the guy and at this time, he would probably be late 70s, maybe early 80s. Sifu Lore walked up and he has his coffee in one hand. And he’s like, look, you can’t go up. And the guy just made this rushing motion. And to be honest, to this day, I blinked and Sifu threw this uppercut out of nowhere. Just enough to knock the guy down. And it diffuses the situation. It was an amazing thing because he just gave him this uppercut out of nowhere. The guy went down. And while the guy is falling, Sifu’s trying to explain to him look, you can’t go up there. He’s still trying to explain to him after he just knocked him. So, anyway, it diffused to take the guy away and whatnot. And we’re standing there feeling like the most useless people in the world. Our Sifu who’s not exactly a young person took care of this guy. All these young guys are standing around, didn’t know what happened. And we looked at… When we went out, one of us said, Sifu, we’re so sorry that we didn’t do it. And he goes, ah, you know, I’m not a master. I’m not a Kung Fu master. And we were looking at him like, what are you talking about? And he goes, I spilled my coffee! If I was a real Kung Fu master, I wouldn’t have spilled a drop. I’m not a master. He was shaking his head. And I found that to be the funniest thing because it really set the tone for Sifu. Because when I joined, and it was a traditional Kung Fu club, he told me call him Jimmy. His English name is Jimmy Lore. His Chinese name is Lore King Hong. And I did it for about a year and it just didn’t feel right so I started calling him Sifu. But his attitude towards titles really affected me. So, even though I have a Sifu title, I don’t really make people call me that. And I think I get it from that story. Just because he was so innocently casual about ah, I’m not a master. I spilled my coffee. I just… I close my eyes and I can still see it happening. And it really impacted me as a martial arts instructor because his honesty about it was humorous. But at the same time, it was such a raw honesty that I think it really affected me as an instructor where I didn’t get so hung up on the titles, and I didn’t get so hung up on being perfect. I got more about the execution. And if a technique is meant that you don’t get punched and you do it but it’s not the way that you learned it but you still don’t get punched, it’s a good technique. It worked. So, I kind of used that story to justify or explain how I kind of approach sometimes when I teach. Where if, in the heat of the moment, something changes, at least it still worked for you.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Right.
Glen Doyle:
So, yeah.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Those are two great stories.
Glen Doyle:
Oh, okay.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah.
Glen Doyle:
I don’t know if that’s good enough.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Knocks it out of the park. That’s what I was looking for.
Glen Doyle:
Yeah, yeah. So, one was a life lesson for me and the other was a lesson on humility and casualness of the additive of the title, I guess. You could class it as56:13
Jeremy Lesniak:
Undoubtedly. Now, what’s keeping you motivated? What are you looking forward to as you look out over life? I’m assuming you’re not planning to stop training.
Glen Doyle:
No. I had to stop training for a number of years in 2012, 2013. It’s nothing to do with training. It’s an out of training injury. It’s more hereditary. But my shoulders, I have this thing called frozen shoulder. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of that.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I have.
Glen Doyle:
I got it in my left shoulder and then I got it in my right shoulder. But I have it really bad. But it is genetic. My dad had it in his elbow. He got frozen elbow when he was older. And what would happen was, it came out of nowhere. I went to every person you could think of and no one really knows what causes it. They have theories. But I woke up with it one day… I just woke up with it. Then I had it. I went to bed feeling fine, woke up the next day and my left shoulder, I could barely lift my arm. And it was really debilitating and I couldn’t teach. So, I had to… I thought, actually, my teaching was over. I thought my career was over because I couldn’t do much with it. And then they say it can last anywhere from a month to two years. And mine lasted the full two because my body is that way. But it started to loosen up. I mean I went to rehab and stuff and it did help a bit. But teaching was really tough. And then as the left one was getting better, it actually moved over to my right. I had to deal with that on my right. So, I only told recently… Like in the last year and a half have I really started teaching again. So, I didn’t do a lot of physical stuff because I couldn’t move. So, I gained a lot of weight and I’m still happy with where my weight is. So, what I’m looking forward to now is my shoulders are… They’re still an issue but I can teach again and whatnot. So, I’m looking forward to using the teaching and my training to try to get back to where I feel a little healthier. So, I’m using it as my motivation but also as my tool to reinvent myself at this age. I’m 53 now. So, I’m just trying to get to a point where I can still teach, do things. But also, just to improve my overall mobility and get my health back to where I want it to be. I mean, I’m not in poor health by any means. There are people on this planet way worse off than me and I feel blessed that I am where I am. But I’m going to use what I learned and what I teach and whatnot to try to use that as the catalyst to get me back to where I want to be physically. So, that’s probably where I am right now. And it’s been frustrating. It’s really a test of my patience and you really try to look at yourself in a different light. When you think something you’ve had for so long which just suddenly got taken away from you. Because I thought it was gone. I thought my martial art career was done. I really did and I had to embrace that. And it was a pretty dark time for a couple of years. I mean, I’m still coming out of it. I’m still a little… I still have some dark days. When I can’t move like I used to, it’s frustrating. But there’s motivation in frustration if you know where to look. And that’s kind of where I’m looking now. So, that’s what I’m looking forward to in the future. It’s just to get myself back. And also, I haven’t given up on wanting to pass my family’s stick fighting style on to the world. I still want to do that. And that, again, is why I started the online course. Because it allows me to teach on my good days when my shoulders are really working well and whatnot. Because doing live seminars is great but every once in a while, I get up to do a seminar in some bad days. It’s a bad shoulder day like I call it.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah.
Glen Doyle:
And it’s like, ugh. Because when I go to teach a seminar, I’m all about the people taking the seminar. They’re giving up their time for me. They’re allowing me to step into their minds and move things around. The way they move physically, the way they move tactically – that is a huge honor. And I never want to misrepresent myself and I never want to take that time with them and not maximize it out so they’d benefit. So, if I book a seminar and then on that day, my shoulders aren’t working for me and they only get 50% of what I can do or they only get half of me demonstrating and showing how it’s supposed to work, I feel like I let them down. And I don’t want to do that. So, I think that’s probably why I came up with the online thing. Because I can tape it, I can make sure it’s edited in the best way to show the technique, the best way I did it. So, they get that sense. Because I do it like a seminar, obviously, but I’m talking to the camera. But they get to at least see everything I’m talking about. Where in a live seminar, I’m kind of having a bad day, sometimes I have to crossover stuff. And I just don’t think that’s fair. People are giving their time and their physical availability and, again, allowing me to step into their mind and influence the way they move. They’ve got to be getting the best part of me, right? So, that, I’m not there yet. So, that’s why I really tapered back my live seminars right now. Because I’m not into place physically with my shoulders just yet where I know I can show up and be ready to rock and roll for their benefit. Because, again, I’m all about the people taking the seminar. Because I want them to walk out of that seminar going, that was the best three hours, four hours I’ve ever spent. I’m not saying that from an egotistical thing where I want them to tell everybody that. I want them to feel that.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Okay, yeah. I get it. Without going too deep, I’ve experienced not that injury but certainly some injuries that have limited my ability to present information. And I know how frustrating that can be.
Glen Doyle:
Yeah.
Jeremy Lesniak:
When it’s keeping you from multiple goals, your own training, and the ability to pass on your knowledge. I understand that.
Glen Doyle:
Oh, yeah. You shake your fist to the heavens quite a few times.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Now, you mentioned this stuff that’s coming but you don’t have a website. So, what do people do if they want to keep tabs on you and sign up for this course when it’s ready or keep up on where your seminars are going to be?
Glen Doyle:
Well, I have a Facebook Group. There’s a Doyle Irish Stick Fighting Facebook Group and everybody kind of joins that. And anything I have coming up, I make an announcement there. I do have a website. My website is for me as a whole because I’m writer as well and I really embraced it a lot when my shoulders weren’t working so well. So, I write scripts and stuff and I do films and whatnot. So, my website is more of a catchall but there is a page on there that people can write me and contact me and keep tabs on what I’m doing martial arts-wise. I’m a terrible businessman, okay? And I’ve always have been… I’ve lost so much money teaching. I’m surprised my wife is still with me but she’s an angel. And she puts up with so much.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I apologize for laughing.
Glen Doyle:
No.
Jeremy Lesniak:
You’re not the only one.
Glen Doyle:
No, I know.
Jeremy Lesniak:
There’s something about martial artists that inherently, we just want to share.
Glen Doyle:
Yeah.
Jeremy Lesniak:
We just want to give it away. We don’t want to do it for money.
Glen Doyle:
Yeah. And I’ve given a lot away. But you know what? I come from that honestly because, again, going back to Sifu Lore, when I joined Jing Mo in 1980… It was ’81 crossover. It was in the winter of 1981. It was what we call a Dungeon Club. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard that term. But the only way you join is by knowing someone. It’s the old style Chinese club. There’s no advertising. If you know a member, you… Now, I came across it by accident. And I was, again, it was near city hall. I was with some friends down at city hall and I’ve been looking for at martial arts. As usual, I know it sounds really, really stereotypical but I saw a Bruce Lee movie. And I said, wow, I want to do what that guy does. I really want to see what it is. So, I did some research and I found that he did a thing called Kung Fu. So, I said, okay I’m going to try and find Kung Fu. So, I was actively looking for Kung Fu clubs in Toronto and all the ones that I visited, I just… You know when you just don’t feel it? I just wasn’t feeling it. I went to visit all of them and I just wasn’t’ feeling it. So, I was kind of oh, maybe the Kung Fu is not what I’ll do. Maybe I’ll try Taekwondo or an Aikido. There’s a bunch of clubs. Toronto had so many to choose from. So, anyway, I was down at city hall with some friends. I was there to try to impress a girl which I failed miserably. And I was going home and I was cutting through this parking lot to get a street cardio home. And from the 2nd floor fire escape, this fire door was open and I heard all of this clanging and banging and this ruckus. And it sounded like a martial art class because people are making noise and whatnot. So, I was like there shouldn’t be a club here. There’s no markings on the building, there’s nothing. But it was at the 2nd floor that there was a fire escape. And it’s not the kind that you have to pull out. It was just stairs, just metal stairs. So, I just walked up and took a peek in. And I saw all these guys using these weapons. Some guys were 1:07:06 a heavy bag, some guys were doing hand forms and stuff and I kind of peeked in. And Sifu Lore was sitting, watching everybody and he spotted me. And he’s like, hey, what are you doing? I was just startled. I said, sorry I heard what I thought was a martial art class and I was just peeking in. And he told me to come in. And he made me sit down and he made every one of his students do a form for me and show what he taught. I mean, you understand I was in my teens. My hair was long, I look like a punk, really. For lack of a better term. And I couldn’t believe that he made all the students do a form for me and I was sold. And then I said I want to join. So, I showed up the next day and I was like… The average price back then when I looked at all the other clubs, again, this was in the ’80s, it was about $65 to $70 a month to be a member. And he charged me $10. And I couldn’t believe it. I’m like, okay. So, I gave him $10 a month. I trained, I went… It was open every day, seven days a week, from 5 AM to 10 PM everyday. Except on weekends, it was noon to 5 PM. But 5 AM to 10 PM on weekdays. I went everyday, didn’t miss a day for six months. It was insane – the amount of training. And then I have finished my first hand form and we were doing a demo, a show for… I forgot what it was for, some event somewhere in Chinatown. And Sifu asked me to do my form that I just learned. And I was said sure, I’ll do it. So, that was six months in. So, the next day after doing the show, I came in and I came to pay him. And he goes, no, you’re doing so much for me now. You don’t pay no more. So, my entire martial art education, my entire martial art Kung Fu education, cost me $60. So, I’ve come by the giving it away for free, honestly, because I trained with that man till 2008. So, $60 is what I payed for my entire Kung Fu education. It’s ridiculous.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Sounds like you got a good deal.
Glen Doyle:
Yeah. If you calculated the hours of training, I don’t even think… It’s like $0.001. Per hour, I don’t even know what it would be. But yeah. So, I come across it honestly in that regard. Sorry that I went off some tangent there. But I thought I would share that with you because it was the way I was… It was my experience with Kung Fu. He was such a generous man. And as soon as I started doing shows, he was like, okay. You’re sweating for me now. You don’t have to pay no more. So, I’m sure that he would giggle at me telling that story. But yeah. It was always tough for me. When I first started teaching, even when I taught women self-defense and whatnot. It was so hard for me to take their money. It almost felt criminal because I was so used to just teaching.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah.
Glen Doyle:
But you got overhead. You’ve got to pay the bills. The thing with Sifu, because he was so big in the Chinese community, he didn’t pay for the space. They just gave it to him. The Chinese communities then. So, he had no overhead. So, it was a little different for him. But you don’t kind of factor that in when you’re kind of learning. You’re just wow, I got all these for $60. And now, I’m charging people all this money to teach what I learned for $60. There’s a little bit of guilt there. But I got over it eventually.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I don’t know if I agree with that.
Glen Doyle:
Well, maybe I didn’t. But as far as my…
Jeremy Lesniak:
Maybe mostly, halfway.
Glen Doyle:
As far as my wife’s concerned, I’ve got no work, okay? Between you and me.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Okay. All right. I won’t tell. I promise. This has been a lot of fun. I’ve really enjoyed getting to talk to you today and totally worth the wait to reschedule. So, again, thank you for your flexibility.
Glen Doyle:
Thank you so much.
Jeremy Lesniak:
And I want to ask just one more kindness if I would.
Glen Doyle:
Sure.
Jeremy Lesniak:
What parting words would you offer up to the folks listening today?
Glen Doyle:
Well, I would say… I’m almost paraphrasing my dad to a degree but not so much. If you’re taking a martial art, it comes from somewhere. I understand that the current state of mind is new is better, everything needs to be updated. But through evolution and actual life and death experiences, those techniques you’re learning have been passed on for a reason. And they belong there because they earned the right to be there. So, maybe just respect the past so much. Don’t be into it in an all-fire hurry to change things. Maybe just see how you can adapt them. And the other thing is, don’t be just a fighter; be a warrior. And that’s the one thing that my dad and Sifu Lore, they said it in different ways but they said the same thing. A fighter is someone who fights to keep themselves safe or to overcome their opponent. But a warrior not only trains for self-preservation but also fights for those who can’t fight for themselves. And when you’re a martial artist, you’re taking on a responsibility from the ages before you, from the generations before you. So, try to be a warrior and always remember that there’s people out there that can’t fight for themselves. If you have the opportunity to do it in a safe legal way, always try to fight for those who can’t fight for themselves. Because it comes with the territory of being a martial artist. Maybe it sounds a little cliché but I think that advice has really kind of rested in my heart. And so, I’d probably say that as my words of wisdom, I guess.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I bet you could tell I had a ton of fun talking to Sifu Doyle. I mean, what a great guy. What great stories. And how powerful it is that he gets to pass on something he loves that is both martial arts and his family? I’ll admit. I’m a bit jealous. Thank you sir for coming on the show today. You can find show notes with a bunch of photos and notes and links and other cool stuff at whistlekickmartialartsradio.com. If you hit whistlekick.com, you can sign up for the newsletter, you could make a purchase. And don’t forget the code PODCAST15 to save 15%. Uniforms, gears, shirts, sweatshirts, sweatpants, water bottles, training journal – there’s a bunch of stuff. I just added a bunch of stuff last night. And if you want to just kind of follow all the other stuff that we’re doing, social media – YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter. We are @whistlekick. My direct email address, [email protected]. We keep it simple. And I thank you for your time today. Thanks for coming by, for giving me an opportunity to host this show. Until next time. Train hard, smile, and have a great day.
Episode 360 – Sifu Glen Doyle Sifu Glen Doyle is a martial arts practitioner and instructor. He is a former Kung Fu champion and practices Irish Martial Arts.
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anyway ive been working on a neigbours/dr blake au all night so here it is.Im calling it ‘The Dr Tanaka Mysteries’
The first and probably most important part is the difference in the shows location. Ballarat is a town. Erinsbrough is a suburb. Fixed this problem by making Erinsbrough a small town.
Mark Brenan: the Matthew esque character. An overbaring boss cop who runs the station and is desperate to reign his officers in. He fails most of the time. His love life is in shambles most of the time. Often wishes David would just give him the report and leave rather than be a competent mystery solver. Works long hours. Very stressed.
Aaron: also a cop, but as more of a Danny (not at all a Charlie). hear me out. after turning 18, following Mark seemed easier than pursuing any other avenues. Afterall: Mark is sucsessful right? Daydreams about being a famous entrepreneur. Very in love with local trouble maker Dr Tanaka. Tyler is the only person in his family who is aware of this. Has a troubled relationship with his distant mother.
David: local police surgeon and resident mystery solver. Generally pairs up with Aaron for mystery solving. Lives with his twin brother. Doesn’t put up with any rubbish. Spends most of his free time giving Mark headaches by proving him wrong. In love with local trouble maker Aaron. Leo is the only person in his family aware of this. Has an odd relationship with his distant father Paul who disapproves of his assisting the police, but still supports him as best he can.
Leo: is he a good guy??? is he a bad guy??? who knows, not the audience! Leo runs a successful hostel, and is assumed to be in one of the many gangs roaming the streets of Victoria at the time. His hostel may be a front. We just don’t know. Despite his shady employment, Leo is generally a good guy who loves his brother and tolerates his brothers police beau. Has a poor relationship with his father, who runs a competing business. They work together toward the end of s3.
Paul: The twins long lost father. Served in WWII. Was a POW. Basically he has Lucien’s backstory. Knows how short life is so he makes the most of it. Knows how rough life can be so he does his best to ease the path for his kids. was as shocked as anyone to find out that the twins were his kids, but did his best to welcome them. It only kinda worked. Def involved in some shady shit.
Tyler: local mechanic, lives with his too older brothers and is happy with his job. He runs his own autobody shop, and drives a two tone blue. In love with his gf Piper and hopes to someday marry her. Suffered at the hands of his abusive father and has a slightly rocky relationship with his estranged mother. Wishes more than a little that his life could be normal.
Amy Williams: Single mother to her son Jimmy. Attends Church and sewing groups, and knows how to find kernals of truth in gossip that she often passes off to David for his mystery solving. Loves building stuff.
Piper Willis: Local photographer slash journalist. Got her job via tyler who convinced Mark to call in a favor to Paul. Outspoken feminist who attends rallies and such.
Gary: Local fuck up. Ex thug, currently employed by the Willis family, and is engaged to the matriarch. Not a great father but still trying.
Terease: Runs a large hotel. Rolls with Sonya and the big boys. Has a reputation of being iron fisted but is actually very nice. Assuming you havent upset her daughter.
Sonya: rolls with the Big Boys. Fought kicked and punched her way to mayor. Equal parts feared and loved.
Toadie: the lawyer that everyone turn to in a bad situation. Business is booming.
Sonya: Works with Paul, her one time step father. All around bad ass bitch. Doesn’t feel restricted by gender and often frequents ‘gay’ bars and joints of other such reputation. While her life hasn’t turned out quite how she would have liked, she isn’t unhappy. very mysterious about her past. Has a serious relationship with Victoria Lamb. Often passes piece of information off to Mark that she hears at the Hotel. Not afraid of death.
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two booksellers of storybrooke
Summary: Emma Swan has two problems: 1. Killian Jones, the annoying co-owner of the bookstore across the street from her own (just how many book shops did one small town need?); and 2. The fact that she may or may not be falling in love with the same Killian Jones. The course of true love never did run smooth, did it?
A/N: It's finally here! My GFSS fic for @ive-always-been-a-pirate! Thank you for your patience, Morgan, as this story completely ran away from me and is now the longest one-shot I've ever done. But it was a lot of fun to work on and hopefully you enjoy it, too! Thanks to MFAMB @kat2609 for beta'ing—you helped a ton, my love.
Note: numbers in brackets indicate Shakespeare quotation/paraphrase; the citations follow the story.
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PROLOGUE
He was charming. He was attractive. He was intelligent.
But he was also infuriating. And arrogant. And something of a Casanova.
And he was right across the street.
(Yet, loathe as she was to admit it, she was probably halfway in love with him.)
(But only half.)
(The course of true love never did run smooth, [1] did it?)
ACT 1
It started—as all good stories do—with a clandestine meeting.
She couldn’t help but wonder whose bright idea it was to have an open bar at a conference dedicated to children’s books. Emma Swan had never seen so many drunk school librarians in her life, and it was beyond amusing—though that may have been exacerbated by the fact that she, too, had imbibed her fair share of drinks, and was presently laughing to herself over one particular lady in cat-eyed glasses doing shots with a younger woman in a cat sweater.
The guy next to her was laughing, too, but he certainly did not fit the mold: dark, disheveled hair; mischievous blue eyes; and a button-up shirt that was missing the top few, showing off some glorious (if she said so herself) chest hair.
“And what are you laughing at?” she wondered, probably a bit too loudly.
“You.”
“That’s rude,” she slurred, teasingly.
“No. I love your laugh. I’d quite like to hear it some more.”
“Well, then, you’d just have to make me.”
“And how would one do that?”
She hummed. “Give me your best book-related pickup line.”
He stared at her for a moment, starry-eyed, before the corner of his mouth ticked up into a smirk. “I hope you don’t consider me too forward, but I enjoy your preface.”
She laughed.
They kissed.
And then did some other stuff back in his room.
And, as usual, she ducked out early in the morning, not even knowing his name, but unable to shake those laughing blue eyes from her head.
ACT 2
It continued on a seemingly innocuous afternoon in a sleepy little town.
A bell jingled, indicating that Storybrooke’s cute little bookshop, Happily Ever Afters, had customers. Emma was in the back, adding to their stock of classic literature (and desperately ignoring the deep chuckle that rang in her head from time to time), while her business partner/best friend/foster sister Mary Margaret Blanchard was manning the counter in the front. Her son, Henry, had his nose in a book in the shop’s designated reading and storytime section, sprawled across a few dark green beanbag chairs that matched the canopy of fake leaves overhead in their indoor forest.
Emma smirked when she heard the way Mary Margaret greeted their visitors; it was the brunette’s signature “you’re very hot and I don’t know how to handle it” voice. Very little fazed the woman, an eternal optimist who had been a kindergarten teacher for a few years before they opened up shop, but every now and then, there was a guy who threw her off.
Emma typically could not say the same—as proven by the fact that she was only 28 years old and had a 10-year-old son whose father was long gone. She generally had a hard time seeing things through her friend’s rose-colored glasses, but she tried for Henry’s sake, and, if the smile presently on his face was any indication, it seemed to be working. Men, though? No way.
(Though if she could stop smiling whenever she thought about the way a certain nameless dark-haired Englishman had moved above and below her, it would probably be easier to keep it that way.)
All in all, they had a pretty damn good thing going. Their shop was well-liked, they made a decent living, and they’d set up roots with their friends here in town—something Emma had hardly ever done before coming to live with the Blanchards when she was 15. There had been times she wished for a bit more in the way of companionship, but Henry’s father had done a pretty good job of reminding her why that wasn’t in the cards for her, and she’d reluctantly accepted that. One-night stands were as far as she went; the fact that she couldn’t seem to mentally shake the last one was even further proof of why that was the safest plan.
Up at the front, she could hear Mary Margaret awkwardly conversing with a customer, but footsteps indicated another was approaching. Turning to the sound, she automatically went into retail mode: “Can I help you find anyth…”
She trailed off when she met the blue eyes staring back at her—the same eyes that had been dancing through her dreams for a month now. Eyes that were now staring back at her with equal recognition. Well, they had been, but they quickly turned down, and he reached up to scratch the back of his head in a motion that was somehow a combination of bashful, embarrassed, and—was that coy?
“Um...hi,” she said shyly, stealing a glance at Henry to make sure he was still occupied.
“Hello, love,” was his equally awkward reply, before he offered his hand. “I don’t believe I caught your name?”
That was one of her rules: to never give her name to a one-night stand; she’d worked long enough in bail bonds before opening the shop to know well enough the power of a name. And it was pretty inconceivable that she’d run into another attendee of a conference in Boston later in their small Maine town. But this time, it was just embarrassing.
He was still waiting for her reply, extended hand faltering. “Uh, Emma. Emma Swan,” she finally blurted out, gently shaking his hand.
“Killian,” he introduced back; if she thought she’d liked his accent before, its lilt as he said his name made it even more ridiculously hot. “It’s quite a lovely shop you’ve got here.” The charm that first attracted her to him was in full swing.
“Thanks.” Despite his seemingly warm greeting, tension hung over them as thick as War and Peace. She swallowed and started, “Um, about Boston…”
“It’s fine, love,” he interrupted, with a wave of the hook he wore in place of a left hand (she had almost forgotten about it—it certainly didn’t hinder him). “You’re not the first lass who’s run out on a shared night. But at least I’ve had the pleasure of finding you again.”
She would have blushed, but there was something slightly aloof in his tone—like he wanted to be genuine, but had an ulterior motive. So she ignored that and went back to her first question: “Was there anything I could help you find?”
You idiot; he clearly knows his way around a bookstore—why else would he have been at a freaking book conference? She mentally berated herself as he turned his attention back to the leather-bound tomes on the shelves. “I was just observing your Shakespeare collection. You don’t have Romeo and Juliet.”
“Were you looking for it?” Doesn't every book nerd already have it? He didn’t exactly strike her as the romantic tragedy type...but what did she know about him, anyway?
“But come what sorrow can, It cannot countervail the exchange of joy, That one short minute gives me in her sight,” [2] he quoted, and she might have swooned a bit were it not for the cocky edge to his recitation. “No; just an observation. In fact, you don’t seem to have any of Shakespeare’s tragedies.”
She snorted. “Didn’t you see the name out front? We only deal in happy endings.” It was true—despite the fairytale-like theme of the store, they had a wide variety of genres, but there was one rule: it had to have a happy ending.
“Well, that hardly seems realistic.”
“Who said it had to be?”
“Life isn’t always happy.”
Preaching to the choir, bro. But since he was determined to antagonize her, she mustered all of the power of a Mary Margaret hope speech. “No, so why should we go out of our way to find more unhappiness?”
“You don’t quite believe that, do you?” he assessed, taking a step closer. She gulped a bit, off put by how well he could read her.
“Did you come here to shop or to perform a psychological assessment?” He just smirked again in reply—an answer she was kind of beginning to loathe—and reached up to the shelf above her head, pulling down a book, only breaking eye contact once it was in hand.
“Love’s Labour’s Lost,” he read aloud. “Sounds about right.” He turned away, and headed back to the front of the store and out of sight. She heard him make the purchase and the door bell jingle as he and his friend left.
Mindlessly, she went back to shelving books. The mundane task let her brain attempt to sort out just what the hell had happened, but she came to no conclusions. Why would a one-night stand show up out of the blue, in her tiny town, and try to flirt-slash-argue books with her? She racked her brain for any other interactions of theirs at that conference, but other than recalling seeing him in a session on independent book stores, she came up blank.
Once she was done, she collapsed the box and headed up to the front of the store. Mary Margaret was dreamily organizing the bookmark display, only pulled from her happy haze when Emma roughly shoved the box in the too-small trash can.
“You okay, Emma?” she asked.
“Oh, wonderful,” she grumbled, and watched her friend’s brow furrow in concern. She hated to be the one to ruin Mary Margaret’s good mood. “You seem happy, though.”
The soft smile returned to Mary Margaret’s face. “Yes, we just had the most charming customer.”
“Oh yeah?” Emma’s mood improved at seeing her friend’s glee. Must have been Killian’s (now that she knew his name) friend. “Did you get his number?”
Mary Margaret blushed a bit. “No, but he said he’d be back. Do you think he will?”
Despite the oddity of their entire exchange, Emma had only one answer for her friend:
“I hope so.”
A few weeks later, the beep of a truck woke Emma. She glanced at her clock; 7 am on a Saturday was way too early to be up. Grumpily, she shuffled out of bed and went to the window that looked down over Main Street from her apartment above the shop. On the other side of the road, a moving van was backing up at the vacant shop space across the way. “Sucks to be them,” she muttered, before wandering off in search of coffee. There had been a rotation of businesses in that space and she had no reason to believe that would change.
Later that day, around lunchtime, their friend Ruby came over with their lunch orders from her grandmother’s diner.
“Did you guys hear? The shop across the street was finally rented out!”
“How is that news, Ruby? There's something new in there every six months,” Emma scoffed while cleaning up a display. They'd seen a salad restaurant, a clothing store, even a video rental (with a rather extensive, um, adult section) come and go just in the past year alone. And she was still a bit bitter that they’d woken her up so early.
“Yeah, but did you see who’s in charge of this one?” The accompanying leer, paired with Ruby’s trademark wolfish grin with her tongue between her teeth, could only mean one thing: serious eye candy.
Emma and Mary Margaret both stilled in the middle of what they were doing and met the other’s eye across the counter, where Mary Margaret had going over some papers. Ruby never made a big deal out of nothing, so whoever was moving in across the street was certainly worth a second glance.
Henry was upstairs playing a videogame, so Emma didn’t have to worry about him spying on her potential leering (he knew she was an adult, and did adult things, but she tried to keep that from him as much as possible). The girls slipped toward the windows, where Ruby had already found something of a perch, leaning across the permanent Harry Potter display. The other two filed in alongside her, attempting to look busy lest anyone notice their ogling.
At first, they didn’t see anything; but movement from the open end U-Haul caught their attention, and two men began to maneuver a short bookshelf down the ramp.
And when Emma saw who it was, her heart began to race—out of excitement or fear, she hadn’t determined.
Which only gave her one possible response: “Shit!” she muttered under her breath, drawing the attention of her friends who had been happily ogling.
“What?” Ruby asked, scooching closer because she could tell there was a story there.
Emma whispered, “So, umm...I may have kind of happened to have slept with one of those guys a month or so ago…”
“Girl!! You didn't tell me! When?” Ruby whisper-yelled.
“It was just a one-night stand when I had that overnight trip to Boston.”
“I thought that you were at a children’s book conference!”
“I was!” She furrowed her brow then. “Wait a minute...is that a bookshelf?”
Three sets of eyes turned back to the scene across the street. The guys had set the shelf down on the sidewalk for a moment, panting in the unseasonable early May heat with sweat plastering their shirts to their (well-defined) chests. And...it definitely looked like a fixture for holding books.
“Dammit, no!” Her exclamation made the other girls jump, and pulled Mary Margaret from her reverie of staring at Killian’s friend. But she’d just put the pieces together and wasn’t happy. “They’re opening a bookstore.”
“How do you know?” Mary Margaret wondered innocently.
“Like I said, I met him at a book conference. He was in some of the same sessions as me.”
“Huh, David didn’t say anything about that when they were here,” the brunette mused.
“No, but he said he’d see you soon.”
“Oh...yeah.”
Emma was fuming. So had he just come in to do some recon or something? Play the flirt card so she’d be thrown off his actual motives?
Not wasting another moment, she practically ran out of the store, hardly checking for traffic as she ran across the divided boulevard that was Main Street to where the guys were just about to move the shelf inside.
“Really?” she shouted, not bothering to deal with proper greetings.
“Hello, love,” he said, because apparently he would bother with those. “A pleasure to see you again.”
“Kill the act, Prince Charming. Are you seriously opening a bookstore across the street from mine?”
“Well, actually, David here is usually the one known as Prince Charming. People tend to refer to me as Captain Hook,” he replied with a wave of his prosthetic. “And yes, we are opening a bookshop, but have no fear: your lovely little establishment won’t be harmed by ours.”
His smile back at her was something between cocky and challenging. She couldn’t decide if she liked it or not, but that was neither here nor there. “How can it not affect us? We’re both selling books.”
“Oh, but you said it yourself: you only deal with happy endings. We don’t limit ourselves in that regard.” He took a few swaggering steps forward as he spoke, thoroughly invading her space.
Her chest heaved, and she didn’t care to think if it was due to anger or arousal. “So what, if we don’t have it, you will? Is that your plan?”
“And vice versa. It really works out quite well for the both of us.” She wasn’t sure if she wanted to kiss or punch away the smug look on his face, and he was well within range for either.
“Was that recon work you were doing when you came in our shop?” she spat accusingly.
“More like becoming familiar with the neighborhood. And we found we rather liked it.” The way he popped the ‘t’ was downright sinful and loaded with challenge. And she was more than capable of seeing that he got one.
“We’ll see how long that lasts,” she threw back, ending the conversation. She turned on her heel and headed back across the street, not looking back to see his reaction. She liked to imagine his face fell, the smirk melting right off—but something told her it just made him grin all the harder (and something else told her she didn’t mind).
“Well?” Mary Margaret asked when Emma came back into their store followed by a jarring clang of the bell.
“Yeah, it’s a bookstore.”
“Oh.” The way her friend’s eyes fell showed conflicting emotions—no doubt happy to see more of the man who had caught her attention, but was it worth the risk of her livelihood? “So what are we going to do?”
“Hang out our banners on the outward walls.” [3]
“What does that mean?” Ruby wondered.
“It means we don’t go down without a fight.”
Of course, it would be easier to fight if they actually wanted to defeat their foes.
It started small: one day, a box arrived in their normal shipment of books, but Emma was confused when she opened it: it was full of copies of Macbeth, Hamlet, and other Shakespearean tragedies. “We didn’t order this,” she muttered to herself, and then checked the address label to make sure it was addressed to them.
It wasn’t. Of course it wasn’t. There in black ink: “Killian Jones, Shore Leaves Books”, but written above their address. She groaned, knowing that 1. He’d probably done that on purpose; and 2. She was the one who’d have to lug that heavy-ass box across the street.
Begrudgingly, she loaded the box onto a dolly and dragged it over, throwing the door of the boys’ store open with a bit more force than was probably necessary.
“Oi! Watch it, you…” Killian’s voice started from the back, preceding his appearance, but he trailed off when he stepped out from an aisle and saw who it was. “Oh. You’re not Dave.”
“No, I’m not. So I really shouldn’t be receiving your books, should I?” She gestured to the box, annoyed.
“Sorry about that, love; must have been a clerical error.” From his tone—and the fact that she could spot a lie a mile away—she knew it was no mistake that she ended up with his merchandise.
“Well, then, you need to hire a new secretary. Or get glasses or something.”
“Are you saying I’d look fetching in glasses?”
She quickly pushed back the image of Clark Kent that popped up in her head. “No; your ego seems to be big enough as it is. I’d hate to add to it.”
He walked over to where she stood at the front of the shop and bent to flip open a flap on the box with his hook, perusing the contents. “Oh, this is definitely not your cup of tea, Swan.” He glanced up at her from his hunched-over position through his impossibly long lashes, with mischief in his eyes.
“If that was a passive-aggressive comment on our book selection, it’s not going to change a thing.”
“Didn’t think it would,” he assented, standing back up and reading for the handle of the dolly. “If you’ll allow me, I’ll just take this to the back. Wait a moment, will you?” There was something surprisingly genuine in his request, so she had to grant it.
“You have my dolly.” (She didn’t have to let him know she’d caught his rare moment of sincerity...or grant him one of her own.) He smiled back, a bit softer than usual, and tilted the dolly to pull it away.
While he was gone, she glanced around the shop: it was actually really, really nice. They’d seen woodworkers coming in and out, and it showed: the floor was a gorgeous, light-and-dark striped hardwood that matched the varying colors of polished shelving along the walls and aisles. The shelves she’d watched them move in were placed around the shop as movable displays, and the counter was a large, intricately carved desk with a ship’s wheel mounted on the front. She knew it was a nautical-themed store, based on the name, and there was all kind of ocean-related decor in the nooks and crannies that weren’t filled with books, and it really worked.
She wandered over to the wheel, pushing on it out of curiosity; it actually turned. She could see any number of small children having the time of their lives with it, but also could imagine Killian as a ship’s captain, manning the helm, the wind whipping his sea spray-soaked hair…
“That actually came off a 19th-century whaling ship.” Killian’s voice made her jump and interrupted her fantasy, frantically grabbing at the spinning wheel to stop it.
He chuckled at her reaction as he slipped around the other side of the counter. He grabbed a business card from the holder on the desk and flipped it over before setting it down, pulling a pen from a cup, and writing on the back of it. When he was done, he handed it to Emma face-up. “Here is the shop number, should any of our merchandise make its way to you again.” The way the corner of his mouth ticked up implied that it would. Then, with a deft twist of his fingers, he flipped it around. “And here is my number, in case you’d prefer a more personal pick-up.” His tongue quickly traced his lower lip before that ever-present smirk reclaimed his features.
She scoffed and rolled her eyes before tearing the card out of his hand. “Thanks, but like I said: get some glasses.”
“I thought you didn’t want that?” he teased back.
“I...um...whatever,” she sputtered back, caught. “Thanks. See you,” she said quickly and dashed out of the store. She was nearly hit by Ruby’s Mustang when she tried to run across the street, doing her best to quickly get away from Killian.
She was in the median when his voice called back to her. “Love, you forgot this.” She turned to see him jogging her way with the dolly, careful to look both ways before he crossed the one-way street (show off). “Wouldn’t want to forget that, now, would you?”
“Nope. Thanks.” The pavement was looking particularly interesting, she thought; better to stare at that than those too-blue eyes that were probably laughing at her right now.
He paused, awkwardly, as if he was working up the nerve to say something, and he finally spit it out: “You know, most men would find your silence off-putting, but...I love a challenge.”
That finally made her look up, only to see him staring back with an eyebrow raised. Enough was enough; she’d rebuked all the flirting she possibly could for one day. She turned and dragged the dolly with her this time, shouting over he shoulder, “Thanks again!”
“Anytime!” was the reply, and she got the feeling that meant more along the lines of next week or tomorrow.
It was actually two weeks later—two weeks of him winking at her from the other side of the street, which she replied to by rolling her eyes; two weeks of sitting on the opposite side of the diner from him when she ate there with Henry; two weeks of that card burning a hole in her pocket until she finally just stuck it in a drawer (in her bedroom next to some of her adult things but that was neither here nor there)—when they received another box that should have gone across the street, this time filled with Moby Dick and a lot of Hemingway. She pulled her cellphone from her pocket; at some point, after a long day and too much wine, she’d put the shop number in her contacts; she hadn’t imbibed quite enough to put his personal number in.
It rang a couple times before being picked up. “Shore Leaves, come here for your next adventure. This is Killian; how may I help you?”
“I’ve got an adventure for you. It’s called coming across the street to get your box.”
“Ah, hello, Swan. Did another package make its way over there?” There was nothing surprised in his tone, and when she stepped out from behind the counter, she could see him leaning on theirs and looking across at her. (Smirking, of course. There had to be another word for that right? She made a mental note to grab a thesaurus when this was over.)
“Yes, it did, and I’m not bringing it to you. Come here.” She hung up before he could counter that, but watched as he set the phone down. That wasn’t...was that a hint of disappointment she saw on his face? No, no way—he was just squinting in the sun. That had to be it.
Their bell jangled a couple minutes later, and in he came, cocky front firmly in place. “What’s it today, love? Julius Caesar?”
“The Old Man and the Sea.”
“Ah, my biography.”
She couldn’t help it: she laughed.
“Now there’s a sound I’ve missed,” he said gently as she placed the box in his wagon (because apparently that was what you used to moved around merchandise in a nautical-themed bookstore). Once it was securely situated, she glanced up at him—there was a soft look in his eyes, one that she hadn’t seen since the night they hooked up. Actually, the same look that had made her run in the first place: like how she imagined Mr. Darcy looked at Elizabeth Bennett, once they got over their issues. It was thrilling, but also terrifying, because she knew that opening herself up to that just meant that her heart could be broken again.
As if on cue, the moment was interrupted by Ruby barging in the front door. “Emma! You wouldn’t believe...oh. Hey there.” It was pretty impressive how Ruby could go from gossip to flirt in a heartbeat, and Emma had never been more thankful for it, or the way her friend was clearly undressing Killian with her eyes (but his skinny jeans and button up looked pretty good on, too).
“What’s up, Rubes?” She leaned away from Killian to get a better look at Ruby, effectively ending the conversation.
“Right then; I’ll see you two around.” Killian scratched behind his ear awkwardly with his hook as he left the store, pulling the wagon behind him to the sound of the girls’ murmured goodbyes.
“Shit, I’m so sorry! I totally cockblocked you,” Ruby apologized once the door shut behind him.
“Can you actually cockblock a girl?” Emma deflected.
“Yes, you can. Or were you too busy doing it to yourself?”
Damn Ruby’s intuition.
Of course, boxes came to Happily Ever After on a fairly regular basis after that. It got to the point that the Shore Leaves number was in their desk phone’s speed dial. Emma wasn’t sure if it was infuriating or cute that David seemed to come by for them just as often as Killian did, and he always got a blush out of Mary Margaret.
“Quit flirting with the enemy, Blanchard,” Emma would tease.
“And just what is it you’re doing?” Mary Margaret threw back.
Emma didn’t have an answer.
ACT 3
In the weeks after the boys’ shop’s grand opening—sometime between the second and third mis-delivered parcel—Emma was acutely aware of every time Shore Leaves’ door swung open, especially whenever someone left with a bag (or worse, one of their custom tote bags with the image of an old sailing ship on it, like the one that had recently taken up residence in the marina).
She wasn’t about to just sit around and let them steal her livelihood. And she was long overdue for a rewatch of You've Got Mail.
All's fair in love and war, right? Emma was quite prepared for the latter, but the former seemed to have it out for her as well.
“Bye Mom!” Henry was out the door before Emma could even register that he was leaving, but that wasn’t unusual for a Saturday afternoon. He had a phone and knew that he had to be home by dinner; plus, the perk to living in a small town was that everyone looked out for everyone else.
What was weird was the lack of foot traffic entering the shop across the street. There was plenty coming in and out of theirs—almost above average, actually. Something was up.
During a lull not long before dinner, Emma went out, citing the need for fresh air. She walked down the street a bit, away from her store, before crossing the street and coming back to peek into Shore Leaves.
To her surprise, it was closed. Who closes on a Saturday?? But there was a sign in the window: Sailing for Adventure: Boat Safety and Tales of the Sea, Storybrooke Marina, Saturday 12-6, with a photo of an old-timey ship and some nautical drawings. She’d actually seen them around town for the past week, but considering her avoidance of this shop had also included all things maritime, she hadn’t paused to read it.
Checking her phone, she saw that it was only 4:30, and the sun was still high in the sky; may as well check it out.
A slightly cool breeze was coming off the ocean once she got to the docks, making Emma wish she hadn’t left her leather jacket at home. It wasn’t hard to figure out where the event was happening when she arrived; there, on that old-fashioned ship that had recently taken up residence, was a throng of people—mostly tweens—scattered across the deck, watching a man give a speech while practically hanging from the rigging.
She should have known who exactly it was, but she couldn’t quite tell until she got closer and heard his distinctive voice over the lap of waves.
“Down with the topmast! yare! lower, lower! Bring her to try with main-course.”
Emma vaguely recognized the recitation as from The Tempest, but she didn’t think Shakespeare had quite envisioned this when it was written.
“A plague upon this howling! they are louder than the weather or our office.”
Killian was gesticulating wildly with his hand, while his hook—an actual hook, like full-on pirate, not his usual prosthetic—held him to one of the ropes of the rigging.
“Yet again! what do you here? Shall we give o'er and drown? Have you a mind to sink?” [4]
All the kids were paying rapt attention to him, and she noticed that so were a number of moms—it was hard not to when he was wearing a barely-buttoned red brocade vest with leather pants and boots under a full-length leather duster. It was like he’d been torn off the cover of a bad romance novel. She could picture it in her head: some contrived title like The Pirate and the Princess, with some scantily-clad, buxom maiden in a buff pirate’s arms, wrapped around him and one hand in his thick chest hair…
Emma shook her head. That’s not why she was here, dammit. She could see a few bookshelves set up near the ship's helm, and David stood at the ready with a card reader and a tablet, but Killian seemed to be running the show. She couldn’t deny that he was giving a great performance, either. All too soon, it was over with a flamboyant bow, and the crowd dispersed to other activities.
When she finally dared to set foot on deck, Killian was showing some boys how to tie sailors knots and David was ringing up purchases of what looked like sea-related tales, like Treasure Island and 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea. Everyone seemed to be having a good time. Emma knew they’d have to do something soon to keep up; it was a good thing Mary Margaret was an expert event planner.
Glancing back over at Killian, she saw that he was deep in conversation with a familiar mop of dark hair: Henry. Knowing her kid, he was probably giving Killian the full inquisition; she was debating rescuing the poor guy from her hyper-curious son before Henry got too invasive, but Henry saw her before she got the chance.
“Mom! Come look what Killian taught us!”
Henry was always eager to show her new things he learned and she was always more than happy to see them. Growing up in the foster system, no one really cared one way or the other how she did academically; the Blanchards, to their credit, had tried, but she was too far gone at that point. Living in less-than-stellar homes was when she found reading as an escape tool, though, which helped when she found herself knocked up in juvie (where, oddly enough, someone finally cared about her education and she got her GED). So she made a point to encourage Henry’s desire for knowledge on all things.
“Whatcha got, kid?” She stepped behind him to look over his shoulder, and to help her ignore the way Killian was looking at her.
“It's a...um, what did you say it was, Killian?”
“A round turn and two hitches,” he explained gently.
“Did I do it right?”
“Almost.” Without hesitation, Killian knelt to instruct Henry with the last bit of the knot. As if her ovaries weren't already on the verge of exploding just from his outfit, watching the caring way he helped her son was sure to do the job.
“Excellent job, lad!” Killian cheered with a pat on Henry’s shoulder before standing up again and sidling up to Emma. “That's a charming boy you have, Swan, but I’d no idea you had a son.”
She raised an eyebrow in disbelief. “You've seen me with him around town.”
“Aye, but I figured he was your younger brother.”
There it was. “Ah, so you're going the flattery route.”
He winked. “But honestly, Swan, there's no way—”
“I was 17,” she interrupted tersely, looking down. The downside to living in a small town: everyone also knew that, but the disapproving looks had at least dissipated over time. But she suddenly found herself fearing his, and cautiously glanced up at him through her lashes.
To her surprise, the look on his face was empathetic. “I see.” And for a moment, she could swear she saw something similar in his gaze—something resembling the past hurt she'd endured. “He's brilliant, love.”
She couldn't help but smile and blush at his genuine compliment; that was exactly what any young single mother wanted to hear—that she was doing something right.
Maybe, just maybe, Killian Jones wasn't so bad.
Or maybe he'd open his mouth again and ruin the moment.
“And he clearly has excellent taste in the company with which he should spend an afternoon.”
She sighed and rolled her eyes. “Guess I need to remind him about talking to strangers.”
“I'd hardly think you'd call me a stranger, Swan,” he said darkly, leaning in. She felt herself flush, but wasn't sure if it was due to what he was insinuating or her proximity to his exposed chest (actually, probably both—she hadn't forgotten how the coarse hair felt under her fingertips).
“Well, you're definitely strange, then. Who owns a full pirate outfit?” she threw back, gesturing at his getup.
“Why, the same kind of man who owns a pirate ship, love,” he answered matter-of-factly, with a sweep of his arm across the deck.
“Seriously?”
“Aye.”
It was another of those moments that gave her a glimpse of Killian Jones—the real one, not the one who used his bravado to hide behind walls that were surely as tall and thick as her own. He was smiling softly at her, and she was returning the gesture. Maybe her fantasy wasn't so far from reality here.
“Really, Killian? Do you take it sailing? Can we go sometime?” Leave it to her son to interrupt a moment of sincerity. But Killian’s tone didn't change.
“Aye, lad; if it's alright with your mother.”
“Mom, Mom, can we?”
“We’ll see,” she answered, laughing at her son’s enthusiasm. “But first, we’ve gotta get dinner. Come on; get your stuff.”
Henry dashed off to get his backpack from wherever he had left it, leaving Emma alone with Killian, who turned toward her after watching Henry run away. “I do mean it, Swan; my ship is available to you should ever desire it.” The lack of innuendo told her it wasn't just his ship he was referring to. “You still have my number, right?”
“Yeah,” she blurted out, before realizing what she'd just admitted.
He smirked. “Thought so.” She flushed again, and wondered if it was possible to flush so hot that she could will her nightstand to combust. “Don't be afraid to use it.”
She could only nod, not trusting her tongue anymore, before turning to leave and join Henry where he waited at the gangplank.
How Killian managed to bring up her full spectrum of emotions in just a few minutes was nearly inconceivable to her. She needed to keep that in check. As a reminder of that, she noticed the number of women buying books on the ship, and was sure it had everything to do with the man on the deck. She swallowed the surge of jealousy that flared up, and assured herself that it had everything to do with business and nothing to do with her feelings towards him. Nope, not at all.
Whether or not what she was telling herself was true, it did strengthen her resolve in something else: it was time to plan their own event that put this one to shame.
Thankfully, the weather held out for their beach reads event—July in Maine was unpredictable, especially when you were holding said event actually on the beach. But everything was going off without a hitch: people seemed to love their selection of light summer reads (a well-rounded mix of classics, modern fiction, and a good number of romance novels); Granny was doing good business with the grill she’d brought down; and everyone was having fun with the limbo and beach volleyball they'd set up.
Emma laughed as she watched Henry and his friends splash around in the gentle waves coming off the North Atlantic, and even though this was a work event, the feel of the warm sun on her skin almost gave the impression of being on vacation.
She was reapplying her sunblock when she noticed Killian’s ship sail into view, headed back to the marina, and that now-familiar pang of jealousy twinged in her stomach. She hoped he saw what they had going on here, and told herself that it was because she wanted him to feel the pressure...but there was a just-as-loud voice in her head that wanted him to come by.
About an hour later, he did, with David in tow. Next to her, Mary Margaret stood just a bit straighter; Emma would have teased her had she not done the exact same thing. For the first time that day, she felt self-conscious in her (deliberately chosen yet relatively modest) red bikini top and tropical sarong. What if he thinks I'm coming on too hard? Or not at all? Wait, why am I worried what he thinks?
“Afternoon, Swan.” He was in front of her before she realized it, and if he'd noticed her attire, he was politely not staring at it—and surely the flush on his cheeks was sunburn, right? (And it's not like she was admiring the fit of his t-shirt or his swim trunks...no, not at all.)
“Hello, Jones. Looking for some light summer reading?”
“Always. Better see what you don't have so I can stock up.”
“I'll keep an eye out for that shipment, then.” They were still receiving a box for the boys’ shop at least every couple weeks; Emma had long since turned that over to Mary Margaret to deal with, who hardly seemed to mind, if the way she and David were off discussing what looked to be a modern retelling of Snow White was any indication.
“Well, I've already found one title to order,” he drawled, tracing the edge of a paperback on the portable shelf they stood by. “It seems as though you prefer one Brontë sister over the other.”
She glanced at the book he was eyeing—Jane Eyre—and scoffed. “Are you trying to tell me you actually like Wuthering Heights?”
“I realize it doesn't fit your criteria, but you can hardly deny it's worth as a literary classic.”
“Heathcliff was a dick.”
“He'd lost his love. He was angry at the world.”
“That's no right to be an asshole. And this is the one time I'll agree with Edward Cullen: it's a story of hate, not love.”
“One can certainly breed the other,” he said darkly. “Tell me, Swan, has a loss of love ever affected you?”
There was an almost accusatory edge to his voice that told her both that he could identify with Heathcliff, and that he suspected Emma could as well. And Emma found herself wishing he'd stick to reading books and not her.
“I take it by your silence, that's a yes.”
“That's none of your business.”
“What if I wanted it to be?” His gaze was intense and true, and the heat she felt coiling in her belly had nothing to do with the ambient temperature. For a second, she wondered what it would be like to let herself feel that all the time—to not worry that he'd just be another guy to break her heart.
One second stretched to two, to a few more, and she needed to know what it would really feel like.
Roughly, she shoved him behind the shelf and out of view, keeping her hands fisted in the soft cotton of his shirt as she followed. Then, just as fervently, she reversed the motion, tugging him to her and pulling his lips to hers.
She felt his stiff shock at the initial contact, but he quickly melted into the kiss, hook finding her hip and hand finding her hair. Her fingers toyed with the soft hairs at the nape of his neck as she plundered his mouth with her tongue, but he gave as good as he got. They paused for a moment to catch their breath, but Emma found herself wanting more, and dove back in.
He shifted a bit forward, which in turn nudged Emma toward the shelf, her shoulder hitting an edge and reminding her where they were. A moment later, they broke again, and she moved back a bit to distance herself.
“That was…” Killian breathed once he'd regained his mental faculties.
“A one-time thing,” Emma finished. It had to be. “Stay here a bit; look at the books some before you leave.”
She turned away before he had a chance to respond, but she didn't miss his fuckstruck whisper of “As you wish” before she stepped out from behind the fixture.
(She did miss the way his fingers touched his lips, in disbelief of what had just occurred, but mainly because she was still amazed she had done that herself.)
(And the way it didn't mean a thing. Not one damn thing.)
A few minutes later, a far more composed Killian crept out from behind the shelves, looked around a bit more, and chatted with Henry before leaving with David. He nodded in her direction as they headed out, and she nodded and smiled back.
One-time thing, she reminded herself, subduing the pang of loss she now felt whenever he left (which was only assuaged by watching the way his assets filled out those blue shorts...hey, nothing said she couldn’t look). It was going to take more convincing than usual to make herself believe that, because she knew she had never been kissed like that before: with not just passion, but actual care...and maybe something more. Hell, she was already lying to herself, given that this was their second encounter and she was somehow more wrecked than she was after the first, which was even more intimate.
She was so screwed.
The sun was setting as Emma and Henry headed home, he skipping ahead of her along Main Street while she toted a bag with Granny’s takeout containers. Henry, as usual, was jabbering away about his day; she was trying to listen, she really was, but her thoughts kept drifting back to that kiss.
“So Killian’s pretty cool, isn’t he?” Her heart nearly stopped at Henry’s mention of the man; sometimes, she wished her son wasn’t so damn perceptive.
“Uh, I guess; I haven't really talked to him much.”
“Please, Mom. Just because I’m a kid doesn’t mean I don’t notice things.”
“Things like what?” Oh, please tell me he didn’t see.
“Like the way you stared at his butt as he left.”
“Henry!” she admonished, but not that sternly; that’s not as bad as I thought.
“What? It’s okay. I totally ship it.”
“What the hell does that mean?”
“Hey, language,” he chastised. “And it means if you want to kiss him, you totally should.”
He ran ahead of her to get the door leading to their apartment, leaving her in the dust as she shook her head and vowed to limit his internet time.
After that, it was a back-and-forth of events between the shops. August saw the boys hosting a science event that Henry couldn’t shut up about for two weeks (his enthusiasm was too adorable for Emma to tell him to can it, or to scold him for betraying his blood); then in September, the girls held a Harvest Festival, featuring cookbooks, a pie-making contest (which the mayor, Regina, won with a to-die-for apple pie), and still that bit of fairy tale flavor—because what would Cinderella be without her pumpkins or Jack and his magic beans?
Just as before, she dropped in on the boys’ event and he found his way into hers. She had rather enjoyed the DIY rock candy Killian had insisted she take home, and his pecan pie (with more than a hint of rum) had been a close third in the contest. They flirted and teased as usual, but after that kiss—and the way they both seemed to be happy to not talk about it—things took on an almost more heated edge that frustrated her. Part of her—the part that kept her awake at night, with the memory of that kiss in her head and had her reaching for the items she kept in her bedside drawer right next to his still-unused phone number—was hoping that he’d make a move and prove to her that he was truly invested. But the other part of her—the one that had been burned in love before, and could tell he had at some point, too—was already trying to tell her to move on.
It came to a head when she ran into him while posting flyers for their annual Halloween party. She paused at first, not prepared to see him at the town bulletin board (or the way the midday sun was highlighting the brown in his hair, the ginger in his beard, and the gold in the middle of those blue eyes). He smirked at her, and she raised an eyebrow in reply—their standard greeting by now. While he posted his last few flyers, holding them down with his left forearm while piercing with the push pin at the top, she slyly read the signs as she posted her own, and then scoffed.
“Really? A pirate party? That’s the best you’ve got?”
He stepped back and glanced at hers. “‘Once Upon A Time’?” he read aloud. “Looks like you’re one to talk. Not your most original idea, love.”
She could tell he was fighting back a grin, if the arch of his brow and the fire in his eyes was anything to go off of. He was taunting her, but he knew she could throw it right back.
“Is that a challenge?”
“As I said before, I love a challenge.” Between his lowered voice and already sinful accent, just that simple phrase had her both weak in the knees and raised her resolve.
Swallowing to regain her composure, she charged on. “Then I guess we’ll just see who has the best party.”
“So we shall.”
Immediately, Emma went home and did something she’d never done before: logged on to Pinterest. (She was pretty sure Mary Margaret shed a tear.) The next few weeks leading up until the party were a flurry of crafting, googling, pinning, and squee-ing as they got ready to host the perfect fairy tale party, with just a bit of a spooky edge. Of course, the party was open to all sorts of characters, but it wouldn’t be theirs without that touch of whimsy only found in fairy tales.
To that end, Mary Margaret had talked her into going as a princess. To be honest, until she saw the boys’ plans, Emma had planned on dressing up as Elizabeth Swann. That idea was quickly shelved, but she couldn’t decide on a specific princess to go as, so went about making one up of her own, with the dress to match.
(She also may have invested in a good corset to go with it. As she learned at their beach party, sex sells.)
(And makes pirates swoon.)
Once Halloween arrived, she had to admit: she was actually a bit overwhelmed. Emma wasn’t even sure where all Mary Margaret had acquired all the decorations from—magic, she had to assume. Twinkle lights topped almost every shelf; glitter was absolutely everywhere, including the punch—and probably her corset, by the end of the night; and the whole place just seemed to carry an otherworldly aura as if it had been ripped straight from the page of a storybook.
Little princes and princesses were dashing around the store, decorating crowns and tiaras with even more glitter. More than a few tiny witches and wizards were pretending to zoom through the aisles on broomsticks. There was even a little Spider-Man bowing to an adorable Merida and asking her to dance in the makeshift ballroom in the back.
The ladies watched it all, grinning, making sure to compliment each and every costumed patron that came through. They fielded plenty of their own, too: Mary Margaret’s Snow White costume was eerily accurate, and she played the part all too well; Ruby had somehow managed to tone it down from her usual outfits into a cute Red Riding Hood, cloak and all; and Emma’s self-titled Princess of Misthaven costume, composed of a red ball gown and sparkling tiara, drew its fair share of admiration.
Between customers and trick-or-treaters, it was shaping up to be a busy and fun night. The party was spilling out not only into the street, but also across it, where it looked like Shore Leaves was also having a good turnout. Actually, it looked like people were milling between the two; she hadn’t expected that, but also realized she should be surprised.
Her shop literally looked like Pinterest threw up on it; so what did the other store look like if it was attracting a similar crowd?
She passed off the candy bowl to Ruby, hiked up her skirt, and then crossed the street as ladylike as possible. Outside the store, the faint strains of the Pirates of the Caribbean soundtrack were filtering through the air, and the golden wrappers from chocolate coins were strewn about the sidewalk.
Pirates and sailors of all ages were milling about inside, enjoying their own punch and games. Just as her shop’s decor lent itself to their party’s theme, the nautical setting of Shore Leaves almost had her thinking she was actually on a ship. She hadn’t been inside since around when they opened, so she hadn’t yet seen the ship-styled children’s area, where a band of princesses were making a boy dressed as a Hobbit walk the plank. A short pirate with a tiara nearly knocked her over in an attempt to rescue his friend, and as she continued through, she caught a glimpse of Henry and his crew in their Ghostbusters costumes.
It was a nice party. Maybe not as detailed as her own, but everyone was having fun and seemed to be attending both. And it answered the question of where all those candy necklaces had come from, as she noted the number of “treasure chests” overflowing with “jewels” and “coins”.
As she took in the party, she wasn’t paying enough attention to where she was going and soon found herself in the midst of a collision—David rounded the corner between shelves right into her. “Oh, sorry—Emma? Hi! Nice dress!”
“Hey,” she recovered, getting as much whiplash from his hurried outbursts as from the actual collision. “Nice party.”
“Thanks! It wasn’t completely my thing, but Killian did a good job with the details.”
“You run a nautical-themed book store and you’re saying that pirates aren’t your thing?”
“Books are; but Killian is the ex-Navy man who decided the theme.”
“Ahh.” She mentally filed away that detail. “Well, you play a pretty good one.” His brown leather pants, white tunic, and the brightly colored scarf tied around his head sold the look.
“Thanks,” he said, blushing. “But, I gotta say...I’d rather be playing prince with you guys.”
She laughed. “You know, I was going to be a pirate originally. But…” Emma trailed off, glancing over he shoulder, through the windows, and across the street. “I bet Mary Margaret could use some company.”
“You think so?”
“Mhmm.” What was the term Henry used? Oh yeah—she totally shipped them, which now she was thinking was some sort of pun with the way he’d used it in relation to her and Killian.
David grinned at her and practically sprinted out of the store, nearly getting hit by a car in his haste to cross the street. She was giggling to herself when she felt a hot breath and equally torrid voice against her neck.
“Spying, are we?”
She turned quickly, only to be met with blue eyes and a dimpled-half grin that, combined with the initial shock, made her feel like her heart would beat right out of her corset.
Killian was leaning against the shelf, looking positively sinful in that same pirate outfit he wore on his ship, but it was somehow darker, more seductive—whether it was due to the pose, the low light, or the thicker eyeliner, she wasn’t sure, but if she wasn’t careful, any of her resolve would be as long gone as her ability to properly breathe in this dress.
He, too, was giving her a once over, and seemed to like what he saw. “I must say, Swan, you cut quite the figure in that dress.”
She visibly swallowed. “You don’t look half bad yourself.”
“I know.” She rolled her eyes at his cocky answer and he somehow managed to smirk harder. “But back to my original question: spying, or conceding?”
“Wouldn’t you like to know?”
“Admit it: this party is fantastic.”
“It’s cute,” she teased, hoping to get a rise out of him.
“Cute?” It worked. He pushed away from the shelf hips first, invading her space. “Cute?” he repeated, somewhat indignant. “I’ll have you know there is nothing cute about a pirate bash, love.”
“Could have fooled me.”
“Pray tell how this is any more saccharine than what is surely an explosion of pink glitter and the Disney Store in your establishment?”
“I’ll have you know it’s the Brothers Grimm.”
“Well, that’s at least appropriate for the holiday. All that glitter on your chest begs to differ, though.”
She couldn’t help it: she snorted, glad that at least the corset had done its job in attracting his attention, even though, perfect annoying gentleman he was, she hadn’t noticed his eyes wander from hers once.
“Just wave the white flag, love.”
“Let’s call it a draw.”
“I can drink to that.” Somehow, a flask appeared in his hand; he deftly flicked it open with his thumb, took a swig, and offered it to her. She eyed it for a second before taking it, fully expecting goat’s milk or something equally innocent, only to be shocked by the familiar burn of spiced rum hitting her tongue.
“Seriously? Can you get any more stereotypical?”
“What? I’m a pirate.” He gave her a devilish grin, gesturing to his prop hook and looking proud as punch of the fact.
She took one more sip of rum before passing it back, and realizing between that, the setting, and the general way he flustered her, she had to get out of there before doing another thing she regretted. “Thanks. Enjoy the rest of your party,” she nearly stuttered, as calmly as she could manage.
She turned to leave, but had barely taken a step before she felt the cool of metal through the red satin of her sleeve. “Emma, wait.”
She faced him again, and all the bravado that was there a second ago had faded. The raw emotion and genuine ardor on his face made her flush even more than the innuendo had.
His hand drifted up behind his ear in what she'd come to recognize as a nervous tick. “I was wondering if, maybe…”
“Will you go out with me?” Her blurted interruption was just as surprising to her as it was to him, and it hung in the now-thick silence between them.
Until he chuckled—a deep, hearty thing she hadn't heard since their shared night; a sound she realized she missed. “Shouldn't I be the one asking?”
“Should have known you'd be old-fashioned. And you tried; I just beat you to it.” Looked like the rum was giving her some extra confidence.
He smiled back, but softer than usual and it brightened his eyes, despite the shadows in which they stood. “I heartily accept, on one condition: you let me plan the evening.”
“I know how to plan a date,” she scoffed.
“I'm sure you do, Swan. But you pick the time and I'll handle the rest. I believe you still have my number?”
She nodded bashfully.
“Don't be afraid to use it.” He stepped forward just enough to take her hand in his and brought it to his mouth. His lips met her fingers for only a few seconds, but it felt like an eternity with the way his intense gaze held hers and the gentle scratch of his scruff against her skin. A lick of fire spread through her veins, racing from the point of contact to her heart and making her chest and face match the color of her dress.
He released her hand, but she was frozen in place, watching as he bowed to her. “Good night, Your Highness,” he said, smiling in his tone.
She recovered enough to curtsy and offer a polite “Good night, Captain,” in reply, before turning again to leave; but she did pause once to glance over her shoulder, only to see him still staring.
She felt like a little girl in the way she giggled at that and hurried out. She should have been frightened of the whole exchange—at how bold both of them acted—but it was either the rum, the spirit of the night, or maybe just getting tired of the waltz they’d been doing around each other that had her feeling anything but.
Back at the shop, Ruby tried to interrogate her about the quiet grin on her face, but Emma remained coy—she wanted to keep this between her and Killian for now, knowing how it would become a thing if too many eyes started prying too soon.
All too soon, the party—a resounding success, if the smiles on the kids’ faces and the cash in the register were anything to go by—wrapped up, leaving Emma, Ruby, and a slightly disheveled Mary Margaret to clean up.
“What a night,” the flushed Snow White gushed as she futilely swept up glitter.
“Yeah,” Emma breathed happily, still kind of in a daze while boxing up the craft supplies.
Henry was asleep by the time Emma headed upstairs, Mary Margaret having insisted on getting the store as clean as possible before they left. She was exhausted and her bed had hardly ever looked so glorious as it did when she flopped down on it. But before she could completely give in the bliss of sleep, she opened the drawer of her nightstand and pulled out the business card that had been staring at her for the past few months, finally letting it breathe and be ready to use tomorrow.
ACT 4
It was easy to forget past love when things seemed to be going so well. But for all love teaches to rhyme, it also teaches melancholy. [5]
Her alarm went off at its usual time the next day, but she allowed herself a few pushes of the snooze button; she earned it after the late night. The first of November brought a later and later sunrise, and she was hardly inclined to get up when it was still dark. But by 7:45, the sky was reasonably well lit and she slid out from her cocoon of comforters to take on the day.
She opened the curtains to see just how trashed the street was; between the two parties and other general revelry, she expected a mess, but it wasn’t too bad.
What she didn’t expect was the slumped form sitting in a bench in the tiny park in the median outside the shop (it was something contrived, like the Smallest Park in Maine or something, but really had only been good for giving drunks a place to crash at night). She’d recognize that dark mess of hair anywhere, though it looked particularly disheveled this morning.
And was that a fifth of rum next to him?
Looks like I won’t need that card just yet. She dressed and readied quickly; something just didn’t seem right about this. She didn’t think Killian was a teetotaller—he clearly had his own supply last night—but she’d never seen him crashed out there before. She knew he and David lived in the apartment above their shop, just like she and Henry did theirs, so if this was a habit, she’d know about it.
Quickly, Emma dressed and made her hair look presentable—and maybe threw on some mascara—before heading down to the shop to take the trash out on her way to seeing what was up with Killian.
But she had barely entered the store through the door in the back when she heard someone shushing someone else. Her heart rate picked up and she reached for the baseball bat they kept by the door just in case. Why anyone would break into the shop was a mystery to her, but she wouldn’t let it fly; not on her watch.
Then she heard...was that giggling? It was coming from the storytime nook. As quietly as she could, she tiptoed over, bat held in a swinging stance.
She took a moment to hide behind the edge of the fake hollowed-out tree, listening as whoever was there continued to (attempt to) hide the fact they were there. Going for the element of surprise, she then jumped in front of it, aiming the tip of the bat at the offenders.
Anger quickly turned to shock when she saw who it was, though: a guilty-looking Mary Margaret staring up at her from the floor, with a just-as-embarrassed David next to her. Under blankets. Clothes strewn about the space. (And Emma definitely saw their underwear; she didn’t need to know that David wore tighty whiteys.)
“What the hell?” was all she could manage.
“Uh, hey, Emma,” Mary Margaret weakly replied. Dave looked like he was about to sheepishly cover his head with the quilt.
On one hand, Emma was proud of normally prudish friend. But on the other… “Did you really have to do it there? In the story nook?”
“Sorry! It just kinda...happened.”
“Your apartment is five minutes away! You know, the one you have all to yourself?”
“I know! I just…” Mary Margaret blushed even harder, but was clearly trying to hold back giggles as she pulled the blanket up to her chin and giving Emma a knowing look. More than once, the ladies had discussed a desire to fall asleep—and maybe do other things—on the mountain of beanbags back here. She couldn’t really fault her friend for finally going for it.
Emma lowered the bat and sighed. “Well, just...clean up, okay? And sanitize everything.”
“Aye-aye, Captain,” David replied, and Emma practically stomped away.
She was still shaken by the encounter as she haphazardly threw the trash in the dented old can outside the front door; she jumped in surprise when she heard the complaint of “Oi!” as she did so, which reminded her why she'd wanted to come outside in the first place.
Killian was either squinting or glaring (or both) at her, shielding his racoon eyes with his hand. He wore a half-zipped hoodie over a rumpled white t-shirt with a torn pair of jeans; a far cry from his usual partially buttoned button-up, waistcoat, and trousers. She’d actually never seen him so unkempt since...well, since she saw him naked.
“You okay?” He just grunted in reply, and slumped back against the bench.
She didn’t even bother to put the lid back on the can properly before running across the street to him; now she was kind of worried. The scent of rum was overpowering when she reached the park, and he was so still that she almost thought he’d passed out just in the minute it took her to get there.
“Killian?” she asked gently, but got no response. “Killian?” she tried again, nudging his foot with hers. Still nothing. Jumping to drastics, she leaned forward to shake his shoulders. “Hey!”
“Bloody hell,” he slurred, then cracked an eye open at her. “What is it, Swan? Can’t a man drink in peace?”
“Usually people do that on Halloween, not the Monday morning after.”
“Haven’t you ever heard of All Souls Day?”
“Yeah; it’s tomorrow.”
“Well, I’m celebrating it early.”
She picked the half-empty bottle up off the seat next to him and sat down in its place. She found herself reverting to mom mode. “Care to tell me why?”
“Not particularly.” He shuffled, trying to get comfortable on the bench and clearly failing if the disappointed pout on his face was any indication. It wasn’t just that, either—he looked unhappy. This was another one of those moments when his walls were lowered, she could tell, but it pained her that he didn’t want to divulge what was going on. She thought they had both made a step forward last night, but this felt like two backwards, and oddly not on her end, as usual.
So she leaned back, took a deep breath, and started talking. “I was a foster kid. My parents abandoned me on the side of the road so I ended up in the system.”
He cocked an eyebrow at her, still with his eyes closed, but seemed to be listening.
“I bounced around a lot, and a lot of places weren't great. But then I found books, and that gave me an escape.” She chuckled to herself. “I remember one place where my room was hardly bigger than a closet; no windows. So I would pretend that I was Harry Potter, and I had powers and someone would take me to some magic place.”
“Swan,” he started, but she kept going; she had to or she'd lose her nerve.
“I guess the Blanchards kind of were my Hagrid, and they brought me here. But then I met Henry’s father, and he let me take the fall for a robbery, so that's how I ended up in juvie, pregnant with a broken heart. He was just one more person to abandon me.” She swallowed. “That's why I prefer happy endings.”
She studied the patch of grass in front of them, but could feel his gaze on her. It was several tense moments before she turned her head to look at him; whatever scrutiny she feared she might see on his face, even in his inebriated state, it wasn't there—just empathy, and even a hint of a smile. “I appreciate you telling me your tale, Swan,” he eventually murmured. “But...why?”
“We all have fucked up pasts,” she told him with a shrug. She didn't want to force him to tell her what was going on today, but maybe her own admission would make him feel comfortable enough to let her in.
Thankfully, it did. He lightly chuckled. “Well that's certainly true,” he agreed, shifting again in his seat and nearly falling over, only saved by his hook on the back of the bench holding him up. “Let's see: father ran out, mother died, all before I was 9; raised by my older brother; joined the Royal Navy, where I lost my brother and my hand; fell in love after my discharge; and then she died, too. How’s that for fucked up?”
He was smiling again, but it didn't reach his eyes and was actually hard to look at—it was an odd, self-deprecating thing. There was something raw about that confession and his expression that caught her breath in her throat. “I'm sorry, Killian.” He waved her off before closing his eyes and leaning back again. “Is that what the rum is for?”
“Aye,” he quietly confirmed with a nod. “My mum was Irish Catholic; I grew up with All Souls Day. It's when I commemorate them, her and Liam and Milah.” Emma had to assume they were his brother and lost love. “If I give myself just this one day to wallow in grief, it makes the other 364 a bit more bearable.” He opened his eyes again. “And that's why I don’t shy away from tragedies.”
“Misery loves company?”
“Something like that.”
They were both silent for the next few minutes, but it wasn’t awkward. And it wasn’t as though she was seeing him in a new light; more like looking at him through a better prescription of glasses—clearer.
They exchanged a few shy smiles before it was apparent that he was struggling to remain conscious. “Come on,” she commanded, patting his leg. “I don’t date drunks. Let’s get you inside.”
He muttered something unintelligible as she helped him to his feet, then added, “Yeah, Dave’s probably wondering where I am. Best not worry ‘im.”
“Uh...he’s probably not,” she answered as they half walked, half stumbled across the street.
“No?”
“Well, last I saw, he was quite comfy on the floor of my shop.” Killian looked at her with a brow raised, silently asking for more info. “With Mary Margaret.”
Killian’s other brow joined the lifted one in a look of surprised approval. “Well, fuck. Good for them.”
“I guess.”
He handed her the key to the outside door to his place, leaning against the wall as she unlocked the door. Getting him up the stairs to his almost-too-clean apartment (yeah, he was definitely a former Navy man) was a struggle, but she eventually was able to deposit him on his couch. He immediately snuggled into the cushions, and if it weren’t for the fact that he still reeked of booze, she’d find it adorable.
She left a glass of water and a bottle of pain meds on the coffee table next to him and then leaned over to brush the hair out of his eyes. She had sudden déjà vu to their tryst; she had studied his sleeping form like so then, too, and had been just as taken with how impossibly handsome he was. Despite the rough state of his stubble at the moment, he still looked so much younger than he did while awake, when the weight of his past wasn’t hanging on him. Even if he said he only gave himself this one day to grieve, she knew from personal experience that it never went away.
“Swan?” he croaked out in his near-passed out state.
“Yeah?”
“So when do you wanna go on that date?”
She smiled. “How does a week from Saturday sound?”
“Perfect,” he answered with a sleepy grin. “Just...remind me, okay?”
“Will do.”
She kept her word when he came by the next day, looking no worse for the wear, to get yet another wrongly delivered box.
(And if he smelled an excessive amount of cleaning product in the store, he didn’t comment.)
The date was perfect.
She wore a soft pink dress she hadn’t yet had a chance to go out in. He met her at her front door and presented her with a single rose. Henry gave the overprotective dad speech, and Killian promised to have her home by 10.
They went to a restaurant that wasn’t Granny’s, for a change, and then took a stroll by the docks before getting ice cream from the shop down the street. Evening chill set in and he insisted she wear his leather coat; it was warm and smelled of the sea and spice, just like him.
He held her hand firmly in his as they wandered around town, discussing movies, music, and then giving up pretense and talking literature (but not business—as she reminded him, they were still rivals). It turned out he, too, was a fan of Harry Potter, as well as Lord of the Rings, pouting when she called him a nerd (though she did the same when he jokingly teased her love of Narnia).
At 9:59, they were outside her front door. She reluctantly returned the jacket, but before she did, he pulled her in for a sweet, chaste kiss, followed by one more on the back of her hand, eliciting goosebumps along her skin that weren’t just due to the cool air. They bid each other goodnight, and he watched as she closed the door behind her.
For a moment, she lingered there, leaning against the wood. The date was perfect.
So why was that old, familiar fear of commitment forming in the back of her mind again?
ACT 5
Where love is great, the littlest doubts are fear; when little fears grow great, great love grows there. [6] Or does it?
November brought thoughts of Thanksgiving, and thoughts of Thanksgiving brought the start of holiday planning. And this year, Emma had the theme of their annual Christmas party picked out far in advance: a Yule Ball, as close to being ripped from the pages of Goblet of Fire as they could manage. Her discussions with Killian about the series had inspired her, and even if she wasn’t actually a wizard, one of the perks of this job was getting to pretend, even if only for one night.
It had only been a week since their first date, but in between party planning, normal business, and holiday prep, she and Killian had yet to go on another. They managed to run into each other one way or another almost every day—often enough that she’d still yet found a reason to use his phone number—but she couldn’t fight that self-doubt that was making her hesitate. If he caught onto it, he was being a gentleman and not pressuring her, and so they fell back into their usual flirty banter. It just happened to be over breakfast and paired with cheek kisses now.
As amazing as he seemed to be, she knew that nothing in life was that perfect. At some point, he was going to stop being so patient, or he’d realize he didn’t want to deal with both her and Henry, and he’d leave her in the dust.
Right?
Yet he still said nothing, and just went on being his impossibly perfect self. Damn him and his Hufflepuff ways; it was driving her Gryffindor instincts crazy. If Archie, the town’s psychologist, could assess her, he’d probably tell her that what happened next was on her—that she was looking for a reason to find fault in him. And part of her knew she was. But Emma was good at running, and at finding reasons to leave, so she may as well beat him to the punch.
She was posting signs for their Yule Ball on another crisp fall morning—chillier than when she was announcing their Halloween party, but just as sunny—and was again at the community bulletin board when Killian also strolled up. He looked just as dashing as ever, with a gray beanie pulled over his messy hair and pointed ears, and a knit scarf around his neck that was just begging for her to use it to pull him in for a kiss. He barely even looked tired, though she knew he’d been up late reading—from across the street, she’d seen how long the light in his room had stayed on.
“Morning, Swan,” he greeted happily, pulling a flyer from his satchel to post. Damn chipper sexy bastard.
“Hey there, sailor,” she replied as she pushed in a tack on her sign.
He started conversing with her as he went about putting the sign up. “So, I was thinking, maybe we could try that little fish and chips place next time.”
“Next time? I don’t remember asking.” She turned to face him, hoping the teasing tone covered up her deflection.
“That’s because it’s my turn,” he retorted, pinning the sign and stepping back to face her. “Will you go out with me again?”
Emma opened her mouth to reply—he looked so adorably earnest—but then caught sight of his sign, and the words spelled out in a gorgeous, handwritten scroll that she recognized as his own penmanship: Yule Ball. And on the same date as theirs.
Quickly, her emotions turned over to anger. “Really?”
His brow furrowed in confusion. “What? What is...oh,” he trailed off once he took a glance back at her sign. “Well, isn’t that a coincidence?” he suggested nervously.
“Mhmm. Sure.” His response did nothing to calm her; if anything, it just made her fume more.
“Emma, trust me—”
“No,” she cut him off. “I can’t believe I fell for this. You were just spying on us the whole time, weren’t you?”
“No, Emma, I swear—it’s—”
“Save it.” She turned on her heel and marched off, heading back toward the shop. His cries of “Emma, wait!” fell on deaf ears.
She knew—she knew this would happen. He was far too charming to only be in this game for himself. He had picked that shop location willingly, just to run them out of town...or something. Regardless, he’d just led her on to get his own business ahead.
Yeah, that was it. And it was better that she get out now, before he broke her heart later, after she’d really fallen for him. Yup. Exactly that.
The apartment door slammed behind her with a clang and she angrily stormed up to her room, grabbing her laptop so she could start to peruse Pinterest for Potter-themed party planning.
Glaring at her from the nightstand was the card with Killian’s number on it. She snatched it up and threw it in the trash, hoping her livid stare would incinerate it. (No such luck.)
She flopped on her bed and began scrolling through boards and pins, forcing herself to think of something other than the maelstrom of emotions coursing through her.
It worked, for a while, and she knew Mary Margaret would love some of the things she’d found. But then she headed down to the store to start the work day, and at the sight of the shop across the street—and the poster in the window advertising the party—an unexpected pang hit Emma in the chest instead of the expected loathing.
Maybe she was in deeper than she’d thought.
Thanksgiving came and went, and the party was quickly approaching. In the few weeks since her encounter with Killian, she’d managed to avoid him altogether, thankfully; they never crossed paths at Granny’s, and David was the one to come over for their boxes. It was better that way. (Or so she told herself.)
Whatever was going on between David and Mary Margaret was progressing nicely, it seemed, and Emma was happy for them, but she had to swallow down the bile-flavored jealousy that rose in her throat sometimes at seeing them. She knew she had made the right decision, in pushing Killian away, but she hadn’t expected it to hurt this damn much.
It was hard explaining to Henry why she didn’t see him anymore. (It hadn’t stopped Henry from spending afternoons there. “He seems kind of bummed out, Mom.”) It was difficult to explain to Mary Margaret why she was putting so much effort into the yule ball. (“You know, it’s not a competition,” her friend lectured.) It was impossible to explain to Ruby what had happened. (“Goddamn your walls, Emma! That juicy chunk of man meat wants you and I’m tired of serving him his pancakes while he pouts.”)
David, smartly, had made no comments to her. It would have just made her feel worse. Because what hurt the most was looking across the street at night and seeing his window lit up at all hours, just as hers was, and knowing that she had something to do with that.
But what was done was done; they could both be adults and move on. Surely he could handle a bit of rejection—it was no worse than anything else he’d faced. And she could get over him, too.
These were the things she told herself as she folded Chocolate Frog boxes, as she put together bags of every-flavored beans, as she crafted floating candles to be hung from the ceiling. Just pour yourself into this—make it perfect and show him up—and then take some time off to clear your mind before the new year. Then she’d be good as new.
The morning before the party, she was hard at work decorating the store. The candles all dangled from the ceiling, ready to be lit; tables were in place, ready to hold the treacle tarts and cauldron cakes that Granny was baking; and Emma had even pulled out her old home ec sewing skills to make house banners and hung them on their tree-like columns. (She did learn something in school.)
When she was just about done, she headed to the front of the store to survey the scene. Outside, though, was just as much chaos as she'd wrought in the store. Heating posts were being set up at intervals down the median; the distinctive shape of quidditch poles were being erected in an open area; and strings of white lights were criss-crossing the street on Storybrooke’s old-fashioned lampposts.
What the hell was going on out there?
Not a second later, Mary Margaret came in the front door, stomping and shaking the snow off her. Emma hardly hesitated a moment before asking what it all was.
“Oh, didn't I tell you? David and I thought, since we’re both having Yule Balls, and considering what happened at Halloween, may as well bridge the gap. Literally.”
Emma's gaping response said no, you didn't tell me; how dare you and Mary Margaret immediately looked sheepish, before switching into teacher mode.
“Come on, Emma; it'll be fun.”
“Yeah, for you. You're the one fraternizing with the enemy!”
“Ugh!” Mary Margaret groaned, uncharacteristically slamming her hat and scarf on the counter. “I don't know where you got this rivalry notion from, but have you looked at the books lately?”
“No,” Emma threw back, a bit standoffishly. Mary Margaret managed the money while Emma took care of stock.
“Ever since they moved in, our sales have gone up.”
Emma was surprised. “Really?” she answered meekly.
“Yes. And for all you've been moping and muttering around, and throwing yourself into this party for the past few weeks, there's a guy across the street who's been doing the exact same thing for just as long.”
Emma stared at the hardwood floor, flushing with guilt at her friend’s admonishment. She didn’t have an answer.
Which was fine, because Mary Margaret continued. “Emma, that wall of yours—it may keep out pain, but it also may keep out love.”
Still looking down, Emma muttered something about checking the dance floor and wandered off, but the feel of Mary Margaret’s motherly gaze stayed on her. Deep down, she knew her friend was right (even if she was going to disregard the use of the l-word); but above all that, she also knew that it was too risky. It took years to repair her heart after Neal and something told her that if it happened again with Killian, she’d never recover.
She busied herself the rest of the day with putting everything in place for the party and getting ready herself. She wore the red dress from Halloween again—it was a ball, after all, but she toned down the support from the corset. Unlike last time, she wasn’t really trying to impress anyone.
The party went off flawlessly. All the patrons had smiles on their faces, and the bell constantly jingled with everyone coming in and out; actually, it was so loud in the store, Emma wondered why she’d even bothered to make sure the Harry Potter movie score was playing. Between keeping the goodie tables remained full and manning the register for customers purchasing last-minute gifts, she managed to stay pretty busy.
A few times, she caught sight of the snowy quidditch matches being played outside, smiling when Henry scored. To her son’s credit, he tried a few times to get her to go out and see it, but between her dress’ lack of warmth and the sight of the many happy couples huddled close together in observation of the game, drinking what was surely hot pumpkin juice or butterbeer, she had to say no, citing a need to stay in the store. But she had, perhaps hypocritically, shoved Mary Margaret out the door, who was now sharing a cloak with her Prince Charming and laughing at the game.
Out of habit, Emma’s eyes drifted to the storefront across the way. It looked to be just as busy as her own, and she could almost imagine the sound of their ship’s bell clanging as the door swung open and slammed shut. She looked for Killian, perhaps masochistically, but he was nowhere in sight. She sighed involuntarily, and wasn’t sure if the accompanying pang in her heart meant she was fine with not seeing him...or that she had wanted to. She distracted herself for the umpteenth time by checking their stock of licorice wands, safely out of sight of the windows.
A couple of hours later, the parties were winding down and Emma found herself starting to clean things up in the back of the shop. Whose brilliant idea was it to have glitter again? Didn’t we learn this lesson at Halloween? she wondered as she swept up the messy remnants of their golden snitch ornament take-home craft. She must have been sweeping a bit too hard, though, because when she picked up the glitter-filled dustpan, she sneezed, casting all of that stuff all over the classic books.
She cursed under her breath and immediately began wiping down the now-sparkly spines, fighting back the tears that welled (though whether it was at frustration, the dust in the air, or the emotional turmoil that led her to clean up so aggressively in the first place was up for debate).
First she cleaned off Austen, then Brontë, and then kept working past Hemingway until she reached Shakespeare. She was taking in the titles as she went, but then noticed one that seemed out of place: Romeo and Juliet. What the hell? She pulled it out, wondering if someone had put it there as a joke, but it was a brand-new copy and matched the style of the others they kept in stock. Which could only mean one of two things: either they’d somehow gotten a part of Shore Leaves’ stock, or…
Or she’d accidentally ordered a tragedy. And placed it on the shelf. Somehow she knew she did; that in the fog of planning the party and running away from her feelings, she’d managed to bring in the very thing that started the banter between her and Killian all those months ago.
And then, the dam broke. Before she knew it, she was crying, with fat, hot tears dripping onto the cover of the book. Hastily, she wiped it off on her skirt and reshelved it, not wanting to damage the merchandise, and then stood to run into the back room.
Memories of the past few months came flooding back, and she realized just how much she missed Killian over the weeks since she dismissed him. As infuriating as he could be, his brand of flirtatious support was sorely lacking in her life, and by all accounts, he wasn’t doing so hot without her, either. How could I do that to him? To myself? To...us?
A plan quickly formed in her head. She dried her eyes as best she could, blew her nose on some old tote bags they were never going to sell, and then ran back to the Shakespeare to shelf to pull out the same book again. A quote was ringing through her head from when she had to read it in high school, so she flipped to Act 2 to make sure she had it right.
The store was now empty, aside from her and Mary Margaret; despite the sugar rush, Henry crashed not long after the game ended. Her friend was cleaning up one of the treat tables when Emma dashed past, skirts hiked and eyes fixed on the door. “Emma, is everything okay?”
“We’ll see,” she answered, before heading out into the Narnia-like world outside.
She was ready to make a break through the cold to the shop across the street, but paused at the sight of a lone figure standing in the falling snow in that damn tiny park, drinking from a flask. He wore a knee-length, old-fashioned brown coat over grey slacks, a black waistcoat, and matching boots. And, of course, his shirt was wide open, the snow falling on his chest hair making her want to run her hands through it even from across the way. But she had other things to accomplish before they could get to anything approaching that again.
With a glance for oncoming cars, she ran through the slush to the median. Killian was staring at her, with a look on his face somewhere between shock and apprehension, and she couldn’t blame him for that reaction.
“Swan,” he greeted tentatively as she strode up to him. “To what do I owe this honor?”
She swallowed, glancing down before trailing her eyes back up to his. Curiosity and hurt made the blue stand out in harsh contrast to the warm glow of the fairy lights, and she almost lost her nerve before reciting the passage she’d hastily memorized.
She was never the best with words, but thankfully, the Bard was, and he’d written just the thing to express her feelings right now.
“For stony limits cannot hold love out, And what love can do that dares love attempt.” [7]
The corner of his mouth ticked up—a slight smirk of recognition—but it quickly disappeared. “I thought you didn’t do tragedies.”
“I don’t,” she affirmed, “but I guess I made an exception.” His silent response urged her on. “Look, I run away. That’s how I’ve always survived—both when I was a kid and now that I’m grown. Maybe not always literally, but at least figuratively. And...I guess I ran away from you.”
“Emma,” he started, but she cut him off.
“No, let me finish.” She took a deep breath. “But being away from you these past few weeks—and being the reason for it...I...well, I missed you. And I learned long ago that when you miss something, that means...it’s part of home. Life taught me to build walls around my heart, but you...you broke right through them.”
Now it was Killian’s turn to swallow.
“So, I want to stop running. And whatever this is,” she gestured between the two of them, “I want this to work.” Tears threatened to spill again; she sniffed them down again so she could finish. “I’m sorry, Killian; I’m so sorry,” she choked out.
Strong arms were around her in an instant, and his fingers were on her chin, pulling it up to look at him. He studied her face for a moment, before answering her with a quote of his own: “My bounty is as boundless as the sea, My love as deep; the more I give to thee / The more I have, for both are infinite.” [8] She smiled through the tears now tracing paths down her cheeks. He glanced down, explaining, “I won’t lie, Emma—it hurt when you dashed off without a word and shut me out. But I’m a patient man, and a man unwilling to fight for what he wants deserves what he gets.”
“What’s that from?” she wondered, not familiar with the quotation.
“Me,” he answered, cheekily. She hadn’t realized how much she missed those dimples. “I never intended to take anything away from you by hosting the yule ball—”
“It wasn’t the party; it was just my own messed up reasoning and walls and—”
“I know,” he butted in. “But, what I’m trying to say is...I did this for you.”
“What?”
“You told me how much you loved the stories, so...I wanted to create a bit of that magic, just for you.”
She gaped at him a moment. He...he...what? No one had ever done anything like that for her—put so much effort into making her happy. “You threw a Yule Ball for me?”
He nodded solemnly. “Aye.”
Her eyes flitted down to his lips, before glancing back at the utter sincerity in his gaze, and she found herself leaning forward. She reached for the lapel of his jacket, and gently brought his lips to hers—cold at first, but soon warmed by her breath, her tongue, and the simple heat of the emotions he stirred within her. Like she said, words weren’t her strong suit, but actions were; and as their fingers found their way into the other’s hair, arms pulling each other closer, she hoped he could feel just how much she cared for him. (The L-word would come eventually.)
It felt like an eternity they spent kissing under the lights and falling snow, but surely it was only minutes until they were forced to break apart for air. She shivered at the loss of his warmth; the heat pooling in her belly did little to offset that. But if the pinks of his cheeks and ears were anything to go by, he was feeling the cold, as well.
“I...suppose this is where we part to our own abodes,” he said, albeit hesitantly. “Parting is such sweet sorrow.” [9]
She laced her fingers with his. “Who said anything about parting? What about...coming together?”
Lust quickly filled his gaze. “I like how you think, love.” Ever the gentleman, he shed his coat and placed it around her shoulders as he led her back to his apartment.
She did get to bury her fingers in his chest hair, while parts of his body were buried elsewhere. It was true what they said about journeys ending in lovers’ meetings [8]; for all that it took them to get back to this point, it was the best lovemaking either of them had ever known thus far, and was sure to get better with time.
The only reason she wasn’t there in the morning was Henry, but both knew one simple truth: it certainly wasn’t a one-, or even a two-time thing, but an all-time thing.
EPILOGUE
No, the course of true love never did run smooth—it had bends and breaks, rapids and slows; moments that were as rough as the sea in a storm or as smooth as the ocean at daybreak.
Nor did it ever ease, but for Emma and Killian, as long as they were by each other’s side, they could teach their trials (and children) patience, and all else that was due to love as thoughts and dreams and sighs and wishes and tears. [10]
And, ultimately, they lived happily ever after.
1. A Midsummer Night's Dream, Act 1, Scene 1, Line 134 2. Romeo and Juliet, Act 2, Scene 6, Lines 3-4 3. Macbeth, Act 5, Scene 5, Line 1 4. The Tempest, Act 1, Scene 1, Lines ~17-20 5. Love's Labour's Lost, Act 3, Scene 3, Line 10 6. Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 2, Lines 159-160 7. Romeo and Juliet, Act 2, Scene 2, Line 67 8. Romeo and Juliet, Act 2, Scene 2, Line 133 9. Twelfth Night, Act 2, Scene 3, Line 44 10. A Midsummer Night's Dream, Act 1, Scene 1, Lines 154-155
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I got into a car accident today and totaled my car. the other vehicle just had bumper damage. come to find out my insurance tried to take my payment out my account but were unsuccesfull so they canceled it a month ago. whats gonna happen since i am at fault and no insurance
Question about gap insurance?
I just wanted to know about how much the dealer charges for gap or at least an average. I refinanced my vehicle and am awarded a refund of my gap because the new financing is offered with it. So I don't know if anyone has gone through this, but if you have any answers please let me know. Thanks in advance.""
Can you receive medicaid if your employer offers insurance at an unaffordable rate for a low income family?
My employer offers health insurance but it is not affordable compared to my income. Can I receive Medicaid and opt out of their insurance until my wages increase? It is a financial hardship to pay $115 every 2 weeks when I make less than $12/hr and a single parent of 2 children. I cannot find information on this anywhere.....
Is it possible to cancel car insurance mid policy?
In the UK. I am about to buy a new car and want to cancel insurance on my old car and get insurance from a different (cheaper) company for my new car. Is this possible?
Hey much will auto insurance cost me?
hey i will be 16 yrs old soon enough but i need an auto insurance i live in orlando, does anyone know how much it will cost me?whats the cheapest?""
Progressive good student discount question. PLEASE HELP!?
i just found out i have to pay $100 per month for my insurance and i just got my license but my parents can't really afford to pay that right now so i was wondering what is their required GPA for the good student discount in California, Please help me.""
Will a speeding ticket affect my insurance rates?
This is my first speeding ticket and the cop claims I sped 15 mi over the 25 mph limit. If I plead guilty and pay the fine and attend traffic school, will this still be reported to my auto insurance company?""
HEY TEENS! How much are you paying for car insurance?
Anyone under 20, what do you pay for auto insurance? And what do you drive? Are you on your parents insurance? Did you use to pay more or less before?""
Car insurance in NJ...?
I am 19, just got license. Its still some restriction for 1 year but other than that its a regular one , I can drive by myself. What could I do to get a car under my name and not to be killed by insurance rates. Price of the car is not my primary concern and I would gladly lease one ( would have a cosigner too if necessary) since I work close enough but I am afraid that it is the most expensive option...""
Is it cheaper to shop for car insurance online vs local agents?
I am looking to switch and was told by an agent that they like it when you come to them in person rather than over the phone? I don't want to spend a whole day running to different agencies only to save a couple of dollars each month because the agent gets a share. Is that how it works? Is it cheaper to shop online? I would appreciate any reply.
I am trying to get a 2006 Dodge Charger R/T. I am worried that insurance will be to high?
I am worried that insurance will be too high. I am 16 years old and my Dad is paying for it. What is the average insurance that someone pays. Do you tihnk insurance on this charger will be a lot?
Why is insurance on Motobikes Much lower for a 17 year old then insurance for a car of the same value?
I'm 16 and i'm looking how much it would cost me to get a car or a bike when i turn 17 next year so i can save up and get one of them i looked at insurance for both and ended up with a 3000 quote for a car worth 2000 and a 750 Quote for a bike worth 2300 they where both from the same insurer and all the details where the same I'm just ondering why is this the case and if it's actualy better for me to get a bike instead ofa car
Help finding a car insurance quote?
I'm doing a project for my economics class where I have to pretend to be a 22 year old living on my own and make a monthly budget for myself. I have to find a car insurance and health insurance quote, but everywhere I search asks for personal information and has to search through my records and credit to give me the right quote. I'm only 17 so they wouldn't find anything on me. I need it for a 22 year old making 27,000 a year. Please help me! 10 points to the best answer :)""
Used Car Insurance/Registration?
I just recently got my license (which was long overdue) and now I'm looking into buying a car from Advantage Auto Sales. My question is regarding the insurance and registration for the car I'm going to be buying. Should I purchase insurance, then put the down payment on the car, and then go register it after I have it in my possession? I've already gotten an insurance quote for one particular car that I was looking it, but I did change my mind due to location issues, but I can't imagine that would change the price up too much considering the car I'm looking at is actually newer than the one I got the quote on. At any rate, what should be my order of operations? 1. Insurance 2. Car 3. Registration OR 1. Insurance 2. Registration 3. Car Sorry if I'm being confusing. I would like to get all of this handled in one swoop so I'm not doing a whole lot of waiting around for weeks while everything gets handled. I live in Peoria, IL. In an related (but optional) question, how does a 2004 Chevrolet Malibu LS Sedan sound? Reliable or no?""
Insurance company charging my PARENTS?
i recently got my license and the insurance company called my parents (21-century), and told them that the have to pay a ridiculous amount of money because I live in their house and I have a license. I don't even have a car. I thought u had to have a car to pay for car insurance. They guy who spoke to my mom told her it was a new law even if i don't have a car. By the way i live in california.Do i have to pay insurance just because i got a license? Do i have to forfeit my license in order to live with my parents without getting charged for insurance?""
A question about car insurance.?
My girlfriend hit a small deer about 6 months ago, it did not do much damage, I called the insurance company and asked them what to do, they asked me what it did and then told me it probably was not worth it since she we have a 500 dollar deductible. Well today I took it in and got the oil changed and asked how much the headlamp was to fix so they looked at the car and told me that deer did about 1500 in damage. Is there anything I can do or am i screwed?""
What's the average price of homeowner's insurance in Las Vegas?
I know this is a vague question but what are some estimate homeowners insurance prices in Las Vegas? The house is worth 180k, its brand new (built 2008). No pets or children, three bedrooms, 1700 sq ft. My fiance and I are first time homebuyers and we have excellent credit. I just wanted to know if anybody had any ballpark numbers (I plan on contacting my current auto insurance provider soon, but I want to hear what other locals are paying so I know if I'm getting a good rate)... Thanks!""
What happens if you lie to a car insurance company about your traffic violations?
My husband wants me to hide my violations because we are trying to get a new policy right now. I figure why wouldn't everyone do that then?
Percent indian blood for health insurance?
Can you get free health insurance if you have a certain amount of Indian Blood?
Does anyone know any really cheap car insurance companies for old cars?
I have an R Reg Corsa 1 Litre, and 6 years no claims, but it seems to be the age of the car that's bumping up my insurance policy? HELP!""
What is the difference between term/whole life insurance vs accidental death insurance?
I'm trying to buy life insurance for myself and my mother. I read up on this survivorship insurance which sounded pretty good since I wanted something for my mother if I were do die first and vice versa. but most of the online quotes I saw were between spouses... But I got confused when I read about accidental death ins- does this mean I will not be covered if I die of an illness or old age- but instead must die of an accident such as auto or slip and fall?? secondly, would I get taxed on the interest earned on the universal/whole ins or when the policy is paid out/ surrendered?""
Insurance or out-of-pocket?
The bumber and trunk of my new 2006 Honda Civic was hit by someone unknown when my car was parked in a lot. The damage is a sizeable dent. How much will it cost for a repair in the dealership? Is it better to pay it myself or let the insurance do it (worry about increasing insurance rate). Any other ideas will help? Thanks
How much is insurance on a 05-06 chrysler 300c?
I plan to pay cash for it (around $8,000) and since I will only be 17, it will still be under my parents name although I am paying for it. Should I go with liability or full coverage, and how much would each cost?
I double paid home insurance?
I just found out that I paid my homeowners insurance seperate and my morgage is paying for it as well. Its been 2 years....should I ask for a refund or what?
Unemployment insurance in california?
Last year I was unemployed. To make a long story short, i took a job and was there for less than 2 weeks. I was forced to pray, and listen to scripture that was muslim. I am very understanding in all religions, but do not practice myself. I was very uncomfortable and left. EDD decided that i left without cause and that i did not deserve insurance. they made me pay back what they paid me and 30% more. I did so even though I didn't agree. Now that I am laid off again, I filled out a claim and got a response saying that I was eligible, and they gave me the forms to fill out for the first two weeks, the standard claim forn. I filled it out, and now got back letters saying that i am not eligible for benefits until i have filed a claim for each of the 5 weeks in which i am otherwise eligible for benefits. I haven't received new claim forms. I am assuming that I will get these, and I will fill them out for 5 weeks, and then they will pay me? So I am looking for clarification, after claiming 5 weeks they will give me my benefits? Thanks for your help, to anyone that has gone through this. It is so unfair! I paid them so much, for something I felt I was justified doing, and now I am still being punished! I would rather be working and not have to worry about this, but it is so hard to find a job :( not a great holiday.""
Car Insurance and Registered Owners?
I have recently bough a car and I am the registered owner and keeper of the car on the documents. As this is my first car and I am under 26, my insurance quote was very high, so as the car will be driven by me and my boyfriend he is the primary driver and i am the second driver on the insurance policy. Does the primary driver also have to be the registered owner for an insurance company to pay out?!""
Can my parents put my car under their insurance so it's cheaper since I'm 16?
I'm 16 I have my permit and I have like 2 more months to go till I can get my license which is finally coming since its been a long wait. And after the 2 months end school starts and I'm going into my junior year and at this age everyone is driving already so please don't hate or any negative attitude here on that. And I'm responsible etc and work hard in school so that's why my parents are getting me a car I want and they've been saving saving into my bank account since I was little. But that money is for me. But the car I want is the 2013 Camaro ZL1 and it goes for $40,000 around there and don't blast on me about the price I'm not wanting a $100,000 car and its my first and last car I'm not gonna switch through 10 cars 1 is good enough and I like sports cars because of their look, and performance, I like smooth cars. But if my parents get that I know insurance is the thing that everyone has problems with because of pricing but since I'm 16 and the car is a sports car and all I was told it can be thousands for the insurance but what if it is under my parents insurance will it be way cheaper? And what does it mean if the car is under my parents name and not mines what is that? Will I still be able to name my plate?""
What is the cheapest insurance out there you think?
Whats your insurance company and how much you pay a month?
Why do insurance companies charge first and last?
I had a nice Allstate agent call me and discuss my insurance with me, give me a lower rate and then come pay time, tell me that they require first and last. When I asked her why the last, she could not provide a good answer. I know not all insurance companies do this, but what is the point? When asked when I would get the last back, she said when I cancel my policy some day!! What if I don't want to cancel..ever? This does not make sense to me at all. Why keep my money there for nothing? When one does cancel the policy, do they get the money back with interest on that? Once confronted with these questions, the agent was not so nice any more. Can someone please answer the above?""
Can I use my parent's car insurance to buy a car?
I have been covered under my parent's car insurance since I was 19 years old and still am. I did buy auto insurance for the new car that I am picking up today from the dealership. However, that insurance does not start until 12:01 am tomorrow morning. As I am still under my parent's insurance, can I use that insurance as proof of insurance when I go to pick up the car this afternoon?""
Car insurance comparison websites - aaaaaaarrggghhh!!!?
why so many adverts for these price comparison websites. sonn we will have a comparison website, for comparison websites. is this just me or does this piss everyone off in a big way""
Insurance For first time driver?
So like i wanna get a car, and i live in the uk , how much would i be paying monthly for insurance?""
Buying a car need insurance help..?
ok. so heres the deal. im buying a used car with about 150K miles on it and its a '93 yr model. im 18 years old, and i only had my license for about a month. i need to know how much insurance is for someone my age and does the car being old and having a lot of milage on it effect the price of insurance? i want to get off my dad's insurance and have it on my own, cuz he wont tell me anything, he told me that i have to put like $2000 down just to get insurance....help please!!""
How much for insurance?
If I were to insure all my assets, including my house, my car, and all my belongings, against loss, theft, and damage (of all kinds), what percentage of my assets' value would be a good price to pay as a monthly insurance premium?""
How much would be the insurance in these cars?
im almost getting my license and i havnt really mentioned any of the cars I want for my first... IM sharing the car with my brother and he has a 3.1 and i have a 3.6... i dont know if you neeed to know that but whatever. My parents are going to say to the insurance people that this is their car that we get to drive every one in awhile so the insurance is cheaper.... but these are the cars a want to know.... 1998-2002 pontiac firebird v6 1998-2002 pontiac firebird v8 1998-2002 chevy camaro v6 1998-2002 chevy camaro v8 1995-ish lexus sc300 v6 1995-ish lexus sc400 v8 2004 chevy avalanche the only reason i want to know what the insurance on these cars are because they are more on the sporty side and i dont want to look at these cars if they are reduculously expencive
How much is a down payment on a insurance rate of $161?
Im looking to buy progressive and they're rating my car at 161 a month. if anyone has this rate, do you remember what you paid?""
""Car title, insurance, different names?""
Can the title of your car and the insurance be in different names, or do they have to be in the same name??""
""How much roughly is insurance for a 17 year old driver, on a 125cc bike?""
How much roughly is insurance for a 17 year old driver, on a 125cc bike?""
What insurance company should I use if I am 18?
I don't go to school but I am starting college in the Fall. What is a relatively reliable but cheap auto insurance company that I can use?
Would car insurance be more on a newer 2-door red sports car or an older 4-door sedan BMW?
Basically, I am a 20 year old college student and I am going through the proccess of buying a car. I have some family friends helping me out. They told me I could get financed for a 2006 red 2 door sports car but I am still on my parents insurance and I don't want it to skyrocket. I will be paying for my car but I don't want to make my parents pay a ridiculous amount for my insurance. I would just like to know which one is more likely to be cheaper...""
Car accident - insurance policy?
3 days after renewing car insurance in April this year, a total baboon slammed into my car whilst I was driving home, writing my car off. 3rd parry has admitted liability, and all costs for car replacement, car hire, paid for by them. since cancelling my old insurer , and going with someone new to save 200 bucks a year, they ( my old insurer ) are saying I will be charged for the time you have received insurance cover as well as cancellation fee . Now , I can possibly swallow the cancellation fee crap, but, I have already paid them the premium over the period concerned ( insurance renewed on 20th April, accident on 23rd April). so what do they mean by their statement ? NOTE : all trolls, dumb *** replies will be reported
Will private insurance companies still exist after Obama care is implemented?
will govt be the health insurer once Obama care is implemented
What is the cheapest insurance for beginning drivers in NC?
I'm about to turn 16 and get my license but I need proof of insurance before I can get it. What is the best insurance to get and how much will it cost?
Do I need to buy healthcare insurance if I turn 26 in April 2014?
This is referring to the Affordable Care Act in the US. I turn 26 in April 2014, but I already have Kaiser coverage under my dad's insurance plan.""
If i buy a car off of craigslist will my insurance company accept it?
will my insurance still put the car on the insurance plan even though i didnt buy it from a car dealership? because i dnt have enough money right now to go to a dealer...so im jus finna buy a local car off of craigs list for cheap..because i really need a car like right now
How come my insurance is going up?
My mom just told me that the insurance company is raising my insurance by like 168$(6 month pay day) and I dont know why. I havent gotten a ticket, pulled over or anything. I mean at school I get parking infractions and stuff and it says ' your license plate has been reported to the police department' but ive gotten multiples of those and have friends that have gotten way more and nothing happens. So I want to know a reason on why the insurance would be going up. Thanks""
What heapens if I don't pay for car insurance?
I have a car, but actually I don't wanna pay for insurance any more. So what happens if I don't pay and drive without insurance?""
How do points on licence affect insurance premiums?
I was caught on camera doing 70 mph in a 60 area. Hands up, my stupid mistake, first offence after nearly 40 years driving. I will have to pay any fine imposed but, paying extra for insurance is sort of a doule whammy. No doubt it will cost extra for insurance now but, roughly how much?""
How much is insurance on a 05-06 chrysler 300c?
I plan to pay cash for it (around $8,000) and since I will only be 17, it will still be under my parents name although I am paying for it. Should I go with liability or full coverage, and how much would each cost?
How do you put someone on your insurance policy?
I have been insured for 3 years. My bf wants to get a car but with no no claims bonus he is getting quotes in excess of 3000 on the most basic insurance. I've tried to get quotes online to have him on my insurance but driving seperate cars and it seems I can't do this online. Do you have to actually phone them up? I'd prefer to do it online as it's less hassle.
Does anyone know of a car insurance that can give you a policy without a down payment?
I live in miami fl my car insurance expired on 2/26/12 i don't have money for the renewal does anyone know of any car insurance company that can except me with out a down payment please i need help and at this ponit i need to take what i can for my car before it to late???
Does the official DMV website offer a free point insurance reduction program?
my friend recently complete an online 6 hour class to reduce his insurance rates by 10%. he told me the class was free and that he found it from the dmv official website. but when i go on the website, it only directs me to classes from private companies that aren't free. does the dmv website offer a Point Insurance Reduction Program (PIRP)??? http://www.dmv.ny.gov/broch/c32a.htm thanks!!!""
How much does auto insurance cost for a teenager?
How much does auto insurance cost for a teenager?
What car will be cheaper on insurance? 2002 Hyundai tiburon or 2000 Toyota celica?
So I'm hoping to get one of them by next year (when i'll have my license) and i know they'll both be pretty expensive on insurance but, which one do you think would be cheaper? i really need to know this asap! thank youu!""
Allstate Auto insurance?
I tried to pay my mom's car insurance today and it said that the account was terminated. How do i get the policy reinstated?
Can you have two insurance policies on one car?
My Dad has a classis car, I would like to use this car for a weekend, but as i am only 19 I cannot have classic car insurance so I cant go on as a named driver. Is there anyway I can insure this car for a weekend?""
Car insurance quotes?
i have just passed my driving test & was looking at insurance quotes on different comparison websites . i am a 36 year old man with 4 kids & wife & need to get a car to further my career . i got a quote for a 1997 R reg 800cc Daewoo matiz and will be fitting an alarm as well as keeping it locked in my garage overnight but the cheapest quote a can find is 1282 a year fully comp & paying up front .I also got a quote for a 1998 S reg 1.4 Peaugeot 306 Meridian & the quote I received for this car was 942 for the year again payment upfront . the problem I have is that with the latter quote for the Peaugeot is that there wasn't any alarm on the quote & it was to be parked in the carpark next to my house . So why oh why is a car that is less desirable & has a smaller engine costing 340 more even though it has an alarm & locked away over night .
I got a speeding ticket. Any estimate of how much insurance premium may go up by?
Got my first speeding ticket in Collingwood, Ontario. Drove 80km on a 60km limit road. Just wondering how much insurance premium rate can go up by... or is there any chance it won't? Would love to fight it, but I live in Toronto and the drive up there is a waste of 4 hrs/miliage/gas vs paying a $95 fine, losing 3 demerit points and having it on record for 3 years.""
Insurance deductible?
I have no accidents or tickets... I want to change my insurance company.. can I get that $500 deductible back???
Can you drive someone else's car without your own insurance but their car is covered?
For example, if I drive my friend's insured car and she's in the passenger seat while I'm driving (without my own insurance), is it legal? Also, can I drive my parents' car occasionally without my own insurance but the car is insured? I'm 17 with a California driver's license. Thank you!""
How much does insurance go up in a wreck?
Im a 16 year old male, get good grades, and i drive a 91 firebird. i recently got in a crash, my car was fine but the other guy had a scrape along the side of his car etc. how much can i expect my insurance to go up?""
Affordable health insurance in Georgia?
We're moving to Georgia (currently live in Europe) and my hubby's company has crappy insurance. It's free for him, but for me and my infant it'll cost almost $700 per month! That's just ridiculous! Are there any Georgia residents out there who pay their own insurance and would suggest their insurance company? I'm 32, a stay-at-home mom, and my son is 9 months. PLEASE don't answer that I should go back to work and get insurance there - Our plan is for me to stay at home until our son is old enough to go to school, and then I'll go back to work. Thanks in advance for all educated and serious answers!""
Is motorcycle insurance expensive?
is it more expensive than car insurance?
2006 cadillac cts insurance rate for teens?
i want my dad to give me his car but i wanted to know how much the insurance would be its the base 2006 2.8L cts and its salvaged , so yeah state farm rates would be a +, State of California""
Car insurance quotes: What is car trim?
I'm trying to get some car insurance quotes in which one of the questions is asking for the trim of the car, with the options E Match or S Help?""
Aprox how much will my insurance cost?
im going to be 16 in a few monthes and get my license then me and my parents are going to buy my first car. Ill be 16, a girl, and the car will be some cheap used car most likely.""
Car insurance vs the law?
If I was driving at 100 mph in my car and a police officer caught me on radar and i started to pull over and then lost control and flipped and totaled the car would my insurance still cover it? I have the fullest of full coverage also, if I was still making payments and the car got impounded would the car be repossessed FROM the cops? thanks""
How much will 3 points effect my insurance?
Hi, i just recently got a speeding ticket ( the price isn't important for this question so dont try to tell me it is) i got 3 points from the ticket and im wondering how much it will raise my insurance. I am 18 and i have no other recorded tickets or anything on my insurance also the car is in my name as with the insurance and i cannot give u the year price off the top of my head but i just want a estimate of how much it will bump up my payments.. my company is statefarm if that helps..thanks""
My company offers health insurance but its a dumb plan?
well they dont have like a set insurace. They have this guy who sells insurance policies and he signed me up for one but it sucks. I have like this $5000 deductible and they are real strick and what not. My job pays 50% and I pay the other. My boss said I am allowed to find a different insurance if I want and they will still pay 50%. I would like one that doesnt have a deductible and like offers dental also. Any ideas? Thank you.
""Car insurance for a person, not a car?""
haha if that makes any sense. my friend was telling me about how her friend is insured as a person...so she can drive say her moms car, her friends car, and her boyfriends car. she doesn't have a car of her own so she got insurance to drive other peoples cars? can you do that? if so, what company offers that sort of coverage? thanks""
""I want to get insurance for 10 acres of vacant land in Scottsdale, Arizona. Where can I get a quote?""
I want to get insurance for 10 acres of vacant land in Scottsdale, Arizona. Where can I get a quote?""
Can you register car w/o insurance & 1967 Mustang Steering wheel..?
I do not have my license or permit yet. I plan to have my permit by early September. I don't plan on insuring the car until September or Feburuary but can I REGISTER the car before I get insurance? (So it won't get towed.. does that ever really happen?) How much would a 1967 wheel cost and how much to have it installed?
Car insurance broker or direct to insurance company?
I'm about to get a car, and i'm thinking about car insurance. The thing is, I don't know whether should i go to an insurance broker, or just shop around doing all these web quotes and find the cheapest out there and call them directly. Should i just do this or should i contact an insurance broker? What are the pros and cons of dealing w/ insurance broker? thanks""
Does anyone know about work insurance in lagos nigeria?
we are ptentially going out for 2 weeks to fit a conservatory and need insurance not holiday but work / life insurance
How much is insurance on a 05-06 chrysler 300c?
I plan to pay cash for it (around $8,000) and since I will only be 17, it will still be under my parents name although I am paying for it. Should I go with liability or full coverage, and how much would each cost?
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/car-insurance-coverage-fay-crawford"
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Why These 100 Mission-Driven Companies Will Win [Part 1 of 2]
Discover something new that might improve your own life
I. Setting the Stage
Within the walls of The Mission’s digital offices, we often have discussions about what could push this world of ours forward. One of those things is our job. Everyone has one to make money to support their family. And those companies sell products or services to other people.
Thus, we felt it was important to highlight the organizations out there that exist beyond just making a profit. Exist as another reason for people to care, both the ones who work inside the organization and also those who buy or experience their products and services.
With that in mind, below we have grouped approximately 100 organizations into different product buckets and highlight something special about each one of them.
Use this as a guide to discover someone or something new that might improve your own life.
“Courage is the most important of all the virtues because without courage, you can’t practice any other virtue consistently.” ― Maya Angelou
II. Beverages
Hint: Sugar is in everything. Too much of it destroys your brain, and we all know soda isn’t great for you. hint water makes it easy to get wet with a bit of flavor without the nasty calories, preservatives or GMOs. You can even get a variety pack for all your flavored hydration needs, without the sugar.
Califia Farms: Coffee creamers contain some nasty stuff. Just look at the back of their packages. Plant-based milks, creamers, and some nice cold brew coffee in transportable bottles is an easy win. Califia has a range of products with a mission that starts with plant-based goodness.
Suja Juice: Sugar is bad when it’s refined and ingested in large quantities. But that’s not to say all plant-based sugars are bad, especially when cold-pressing some different types of juices. Suja has kombuchas, probiotics, vinegars, and many more types of beverages to help you live a healthier life. The mission? Organic juices and vegetables quenches the soul and makes you feel more alive.
Four Sigmatic: You know what coffee is. But bet ya never heard of mushroom coffee. What if you could remove the jitters, the crash, and the stomach problems caused by the regular cup o’ joe? That’s the winning formula here, preaching things like reishi, cordyceps, lion’s mane, and chaga.
Brita: Their brand name is now synonymous with any kind of water filter, loved by college students everywhere. They’re the leader and continue to innovate with the filtration technology.
Invigorated Living: Hydration is no joke. We’re made of almost all water. This team is making alkaline filters for screwing onto your water faucet, a pitcher in the fridge, or a to-go sport bottle. Why is alkaline better? “It removes free radicals, eliminates toxins, and increases immunity and energy levels.”
III. Food
Trader Joes: Lots of health food at a price that won’t break the bank. The wife and I are vegan, so we fill up a cart and leave the store for half the price of what it costs us elsewhere. Good food, low price. That’s something we can get behind.
Whole Foods: Just purchased by Amazon, and subsequently slashed the prices of the original health-first grocery, Whole Foods Market is the market leader when it comes to putting the best stuff for you into your body.
Thrive Market: an organic grocery store that exists only online. They deliver direct to your door, making it faster and easier for your family to get the best fuel. And of course, Thrive Market is slashing prices up to 25% to 50% off.
Greensbury Market: “Greensbury is the original delivery service for grass-fed beef, organic meat, and local seafood.” If you’re into meat and want to make sure it comes from the best organic farms, fisheries, and ranches in the US, look no further.
Daily Harvest: Fan of ice cream? Rather it be better for you than worse? How about frozen superfood that acts like ice cream? And the best part is they deliver to your door. That’s a win-win.
Manitoba Harvest: Back in the day, the word Hemp was just a euphemism for weed and the war on drugs. But my oh my, has the world changed. Today, hemp is used for healthy food products including hemp hearts, toasted hemp seeds, protein powder, snacks and even oils for your body. This team even has a Hemp Academy to get you schooled on all the benefits. A little learning goes a long way.
VSL: It stands for Very Strong Legacy and Very Strong Loyalty. That’s a mission we get excited about. But how do they do it? With probiotic medical foods. IBS is no joke, and if you’re afflicted, it’s not fun. I’ve had a few friends who suffered. These foods can help. Kudos, team.
CWHemp: Charlotte’s Web isn’t just a children’s story. This organization is the maker of The World’s Most Trusted Hemp Extract complete with cannabinoids. The future is here, y’all.
IV. Shelter
Open Listings: Buying a home make you cringe? Reams of paperwork, lots of fancy math, the dread of 30-years of commitment to non-stop payments. This team helps you find the home, gets an agent to work with you, and you keep half the closing commissions. Save time and money…where do we sign up?
Redfin: 3D walking tours online come standard so you don’t spend all your time driving around a city in a stranger’s car. Redfin cares about customer reviews and closes 10,000 houses every year. A modern take on real estate.
Compass: Looking for a home that’s more unique than the cookie-cutter suburban standard? Compass lets you search by home design, amenities, and neighbordhood so you find the most sought after properties without combing through copycats.
Sothebys: You might know the brand through the high-end art auctions taking place for the likes of Thomas Crowne. But there’s also the real estate arm showcasing the best of the best for rent and ownership all across this little globe of ours.
Prometheus Apartments: Luxury apartment finding on the west coast shouldn’t be hard. Especially in tech-centered hot beds where lots of talent is vying for the same living quarters. This team makes it easier in the Bay Area, Seattle, and Portland to name a few.
WeLive: WeWork isn’t just for shared office space. They’re also dipping their toe into the Digital Nomad lifestyle with month to month rentals in similar locations to the office space. Sleep, work, live.
V. Apparel
Bonobos: A long-time brand fan here. What started as a better fitting men’s pant expanded into a retail empire complete with a woman’s line. Setting trends with their Bonobos Guides shops for trying on but ordering online, they were recently purchased by Wal-Mart. Kudos Andy Dunn.
AllBirds: Comfy shoes don’t have to be ugly. In fact, they can serve a duel purpose. This team is focused on using the planet’s natural materials, like New Zealand’s superfine merino wool. What used to be only for soft sweaters is now for soft shoes.
Gap: No introductions needed here. Just good clothes at fair prices and a commitment to a new mission with 100% of Gap’s cotton coming from sustainable sources by 2021.
MVMT: Like the look of a classic wristwatch but don’t want to pay horological prices? With MVMT you get an incredible collection of both men’s and women’s styles for around $100. A couple college dropouts, made good.
Smartwool: Now owned by Timberland, US-made smartwool socks and active clothing helps you get outdoors and stay there. Pushing the limits of Merino wool, their story started on a ski slope with the aim of stopping toes from going cold.
Merrell: Dig the outdoors more than the indoors? If “trail running is life” is your motto, then you’ve found your home with this group. The clothes, shoes, and accessories are made for movement and comfort and likely you’ve seen the brand on friends without even realizing it before.
NorthFace: If you’ve ever lived in Chicago, or climbed Mt Everest, then this cold-weather retailer needs nay an introduction. Puffy coats, vests, backpacks, all meant to stay dry and light, even when it’s 40 degrees below zero with the Windy City windchill scraping at your face. Warmth in more than one way.
VI. Services
Biz Services
Legal Zoom: Need legal help fast and without breaking the bank? Legal Zoom was one of the first to bring people together online. From startups, wills, trusts, and IP to personal and family law, this organization can help you out.
Gusto: Everything’s online these days and with so many small and medium-sized businesses out there needing to pay their employees, you need a simple web app that can get all things HR done for you. Gusto’s got it in spades.
Intercom: You might know them from the little customer service chat widget in the bottom right-hand corner of many of the websites you visit. Intercom also has one of the best brands, designs, and educational blog content out there for the business of building businesses. Track lead gen from visits to closed deals.
Banking
Silicon Valley Bank: Well known in the startup industry, Silicon Valley Bank has been the financial institution of choice for the most valuable tech companies for many decades. This group knows money, and they know startups. Give them a look.
Chase: One of the biggest banks in the US, Chase has everything you need as a consumer from savings, checking, CDs, credit cards, and on and on. It works around the world and is, of course, FDIC-insured to protect your money from theft and fraud.
USAA: Well-known as the financial organization for military servicemen and servicewoman, USAA has been around since 1922 to help with insurance, banking, investing, real estate, health care, and retirement. Everyone we talk to loves them. A helluva brand.
Capital One: It might sound funny to think about a bank being mission-driven, but right on the top of the homepage today is a banner that says “We’re here to support our customers impacted by Hurricane Harvey”. You don’t get that with other banks.
Money
PayPal: The original online payments processing company, PayPal has existed for decades to let people transaction on eBay and all over the web to buy things and send money. They recently acquired Venmo as well to add a bit more millennial fun to the brand.
Venmo: The original “send money to my buddy for beer money last night” app, complete with a public stream full of funny comments and emoticons is all grown up now. They process $20 Billion in payments. Billion. With a B. The craziest part is it’s all free to you, the user.
Insurance
GEICO: “15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance”. Likely one of the best tag lines in decades, repeatable by normal people all across the US. Warren Buffett took a stake in them very early on. Their business is doing well, continues to grow, and if personal use is any indication, we use GEICO for our car insurance.
Ladder Life Insurance: You don’t want to think about it, but it’s an inevitability for every one of us. Make sure your family is taken care of. Ladder makes it easy through a simple online web tool to get a quote in seconds and they even have a friendly calculator to see how much you might need.
Lemonade Insurance: We all have a lot of stuff, and need to protect our apartment or home with insurance. Chat through the app or the website, get responses instantly, and lower prices at Lemonade Inc. A match made in heaven.
Real World
Jet.com: Online ecommerce for all things groceries, Jet.com was recently purchased by Wal-Mart to continue the battle for eCom supremacy against Amazon. Jet’s friendly interface and simple shipping options made it one of the fastest growing in the US.
Postmates: What if you could push a button and get anything at all delivered to you in only a few hours? Postmates made that dream a reality, with its large workforce of couriers to pick up anything around your city including clothes, food or miscellaneous wares. If you’re in a pinch, be pinched no longer.
Blue Apron: We all have trouble trying to figure out what the heck we’re going to eat for dinner tonight? Did we go to the store? Should we just order delivery? With Blue Apron’s subscription meal delivery service, they give you all the fresh goodies, and the recipe. You just prepare, serve, and eat.
Purple Carrot: One of my personal favorites, Purple Carrot delivers only plant-based fresh ingredients to your home every week. Pull out the veggies and spices, grab the recipe card with appetizing imagery, and spend 30 mins to an hour preparing a meal for a 4-person family. We’ve been using this service for months and we’ve never felt better. This from a guy who used to hate cooking, but now enjoys it.
— Sean Everett
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