#itsv 2 spoilers

[shokuto]

This suit has ruined the future of Miles’ costume design

They have spent years trying to recreate it, to duplicate that spark, and all we have to show for it is a legacy of swaggerless monstrosities

Like this one

[dizzybevvie]

Please dripfeed me autism medication (airdrop your Spiderverse thoughts directly into my brain)

[actuallynobutwhynot]

More spidersona to tide her 3 fans over until i get a Big Piece done and here's the first post for reference

The proper way to write her name is Sædra Saraç, pronounced say-dra sah-rash. I just came up with this name out of nowhere a long time ago it has no meaning it's just. fun

-Baby Sae was a scrawny screemplet

-She is very much not good at leaps of faith, only really figured out how to do any spiderability stuff through fear-induced adrenaline.

-She can throw webs from all 4 limbs but prefers her right front paw

-The animals of her universe all have somewhat opposable hands. It's ofc less so with things like hooved animals but there are accommodations

-She still has the spider that bit her in a glass terrarium. Has no idea what species it is but despite the fact she resents it a bit for giving her her powers she still keeps it alive and well.

-Was obsessed with cats in elem school. Drew this particular design a million times.

-If you're wondering why Sæ's parents didn't freak out about her nose suddenly disappearing and being replaced by weird pits in her face, it's because she lost them both before she was bit. She's 16, considered a ward of the state until she turns 21, and is allowed to keep living in her parents' flat.

-Sæ's a bit of a recluse these days, both at school and at home. Her dad died in the line of duty as a police chief before she was born, but her mom? It had only been about half a year after her mom's death from a break-in when Sæ gained her spider powers. Kid's having a rough time. When she meets the spider society, it'll probably help lift her spirits to know there's people out there who get it.

[captainshyguy]

i watched across the spiderverse today and i loved it! im gonna be posting about it, but i’ll tag it with atsv spoilers! 

[4mrplumi]

UGH I LOVE UR PENI!READER and all ur work in general but I was also slightly excited to see a lil more about ur noir!reader idea

THANK YOU!! your words mean a lot to me :)))

personally, i dropped the idea because the concept worked better as a crossover fic rather than a x reader fic, but it's cool with me if anyone takes this up themselves!!

i'd actually made a few notes on the spidernoir fic since he's probably one of my fave spideys, and they were supposed to be uploaded in a joint drabble fic the peni idea:

spidernoir!reader and sp//dr come to investigate an anomaly in the dc universe (this same anomaly will be involved in the peni!reader fic) and get stuck in the DC universe, thus becoming anomalies themselves. both more modeled after their comic versions (peni in edge of the spiderverse #5) , rather than the itsv movie ones.

overarching plot is that they have to find out what's wrong in this universe, find a way to leave, and survive all the things gotham has to throw at them. also maybe it's written from peni's pov, like those detective books where the "sidekick" (peni is not a sidekick) describes the story.

i'd have liked to discuss and incorporate character themes a lot more too, since spidernoir's mentality is different from the general spidermans' "with great power comes great responsibility", and his drive for revenge and justice is pretty similar to storylines we see in batman.

SPOILER WARNING for anyone who hasn't read/doesn't know about spidernoir's story:

i'd like to also maybe write about conflict between the two since spidernoir has killed people before, and was reprimanded by aunt may. he was ashamed, but justified his actions.

batman's strict no-kill rule is very obvious to readers, and separately, my understanding of spidernoir is that he avoids killing, but is willing to make exceptions. if this idea stuck to the original spidernoir!reader x batman/bruce fic, it'd be neat for any personal conflict between them.

again, if we're sticking to the og spidernoir's lore for this fic, then other dynamics, like that with catwoman would also be interesting. non romantically, it'd be cool to try and develop how they'd react to someone with a theme so similar to spidernoir's felicia hardy.

additional bits would have maybe more light hearted things. a subplot i wanted to put in was peni getting into gotham academy to make web fluid in the lab and keep a steady civilian identity lifestyle, and spidernoir!reader playing as a guardian for her. damian who's been suspicious of the new kid (maybe cus she mutters under her breath to the psychlink spider) bristling when she shows up with spidernoir!reader for idk a parent teacher conference?

there's something i'd have checked out in this fic and probably will in the other too, is the similarities between peni and spidernoir!reader and cassandra and batman.

in the og drabble, i'd also said "noir dads with angsty kids" because bruce and spidernoir!reader being questioned but also liked by damian and peni would've been a nice development too.

overall i feel because of all the parallels and character settings i'd have found it a little difficult to make a proper planned fic, since 1. i'm not very good at putting myself in the shoes of moody non-dependents and 2. i'd have gone too much into mindsets than any real story.

[aspiringsophrosyne]

Leitmotifs in Across The Spiderverse.

Let's talk about how the music of Across The Spiderverse tells us more than what might be obvious. Spoilers for both movies from here on out: you've been warned. 

EDIT: added in one more very important instance.

For those who don't know or need a reminder, a leitmotif is a musical signature associated with a character, an idea, a situation, or some or all of those things together. And for the first Spiderverse movie, Daniel Pemberton made excellent use of at least two big ones. 

To see what I mean, check out this video. If you haven't already. It highlights how music helped tell the story of Into The Spiderverse. 

While this video exclusively covers the leitmotifs in the soundtrack of ITSV, once you know what they sound like, you can hear their inclusion in ATSV.

For instance, Miles' personal leitmotif (that ties together the themes that makeup Miles-as-a-person's journey) shows up both times he attempts to tell his mother that he's Spider-Man.

But the Spider-Person theme, in particular, is all over the place in ATSV. This is fitting, considering it features so many Spideys. Not only is it front and center in Peter B.'s theme and is hiding out in Gwen's, Pavitr's, and Hobie's themes, it demonstrates how Miles-as-Spider-Man has developed between movies: playing throughout My Name is Miles Morales. It's one of the first things we hear when we see the young hero again.

This is an evolution from before, as for most of the first film, the Spider-Person motif plays incessantly for the other Spiders but sparingly for Miles. Whenever it was used for him, it was to show he'd reached a new station in his learning and growth. It plays for him when he first thwips away from Doc Ock and intertwines with his personal theme during his leap of faith to show that he's finally become Spider-Man.

So to have multiple iterations of the Spider-Person leitmotif jammed into the song that plays when we first see Miles again shows how much he's grown.

However....the other places it plays in the movie can give us clues about the nature of the conflict between Miguel's Spider Society and the newly formed Spider-Band. To illustrate this, I want to talk about three specific moments where it's prominent in the soundtrack.

During Nueva York Train Chase, Miguel busts out of the train like a horror movie monster and calls after the younger Spider: "Who do you think you are? Really!?"

Miles answers: "My name...is Miles Morales. I was bitten by a radioactive spider. I'm pretty sure you know the rest, jerk!" He then proceeds to drop, kick Miguel in the face, and then nail him with a ball of webbing.

This is around 2:05 of Nueva York Train Chase on the official ATSV soundtrack by Daniel Pemberton. What do we hear after Miles declares this and then (temporarily) eludes 2099?

The Spider-Person leitmotif.

It's not much later that we hear it again. When? At about 2:25 in the track The Go Home Machine. When Margo Kess, Spider-Byte, decides not to interfere with the titular machine and keep Miles in Nueva York.

This moment is critical. Miguel is trying to stop Miles. Even if the machine doesn't take him home, it gets Miles out of the older Spider's clutches and gives him a chance. And when he gets away, what plays? The Spider-Person leitmotif. The music tells us that at this moment, in trying to escape and save his father and not halting his escape, Miles and Margo are acting like Spider-People.

The music is on Miles' side. The music tells us that Miles is acting like Spider-Man by resisting the Spider-Society. He's doing the right thing.

And on top of that, what do we hear after 2:35 of Start a Band? The moment where Peter B. looks outside and sees Gwen waiting for him? The Spider-Person leitmotif. It tells us that in taking Hobie's watch and gathering her band together, Gwen's acting like Spider-Woman.

It then plays over and over again until the credits role. The music is telling us that the Spider-Band's mission marks them as Spider-People. They are living up to the title. They are doing the right thing.

I don't think the music is the only thing in the movie that points the audience to that conclusion. There's also a lot of subtext, meta, and suspiciously little information about how Canon Events and the multiverse generally work. But this is one of the simplest ways the movie tells us that Miles and the Spider-Band are in the right. 

[mikauhso]

Aight so spoilers for: Wicked, Transformers: One, and probably some other stuff

Ok so it might just be me but the visual metaphor of a character falling before starting their ascent to their highest point is really strong and it’s something I’ve noticed happening more in recent media

- Elphaba falling out the window during Defying Gravity in the Wicked movie

- Orion falling to the core of Cybertron in TF: One

- Miles falling during the “What’s up Danger” sequence of ITSV and the train chase of ATSV

- Leonardo falling with Krang Prime in ROTTMNT

- Sonic falling from the bridge in Sonic 2 (may be a stretch)

My point is it’s a cool writing trick I’ve seen in more recent media that’s usually paired with a slam-dunk conclusion to a character arc and it’s really neat to see more works adopting it as part of their narrative since it’s such a good way to communicate both peril, a character’s feeling, and make major plot beats happen

[silentwhsprs]

BOUND 2 , miles morales

you and miles just saved the multiverse and destroyed a collider that would ruin everything. everyone made it home but you, you were stuck in a dimension that wasnt even yours.

angst, fluff??, miles being bad at comforting, your called sol which means sun/sunshine in english, based off of spiderman itsv w spiderman atsv spoilers, minor google translate spanish, cussing, miles the rizzler

you walked toward the edge of the destroyed collider, wiping the dried tears with the tips of your fingers. you dangled your feet over the burnt ground.

miles walked toward you and stood behind you, “whats wrong, sol?” he asked. you looked up at him, your mask was scrunched up in your hand.

you hated what you were gifted, you hated what you did with your gift, you hated the entire saying with great power comes great responsibility. nothing about this was great.

“i just cant believe, I’ll never get to experience my actual life.” you said, your face contorting into disbelief. miles placed his hand on your shoulder, “this is your actual life now, luz del sol.” he tried.

miles didnt understand the situation you were caught in. he lost uncle aaron and calls it a sob story, the moment you saw lyla and the random dude who remained anonymous tell you infront of who you thought was your family that they somehow warped you from your earth you didn’t understand.

your parents looked at you guilty, the anonymous spiderguy made sure that you were completely aware of where you belonged wasnt earth-1610.

“miles..” you began, “you belong here. this is your earth, your life. but mine.. I’ll never get to experience it. because for some odd reason my dimension decided to self destruct itself seconds later i was warped off their earth.” you explained.

you felt the tears rebuild themselves, “it wouldn’t even allow me to try to get back there. and the stupid surgery i had gotten wasnt consensual at all! and im just stupid stupid-“ you yelled out in frustration. miles grabbed your hands and pinned them over your head.

the different position made you stand up right infront of miles, “stop talking to yourself like that, okay?”

“you’re not stupid, you’re not anything. you mí luz del sol.” miles said, he looked in your eyes with full sincerity.

“i think..” you giggled, “i think were bound to.. miles.” you said look back in his eyes.

“what?” he chuckled softly, releasing your hands from the position. “like..like the song?” he asked.

“yup.” you smirked, “we’re bound to falling in love.”

[parksbornyuri]

essay about your fav spiderman NOW!!!

EASY. my favorite spiderman is MILES MORALES!!! this will contain spoilers for the comics, ps4 game, and spiderverse films. ALSO! its been a hot minute since i read the miles morales ultimate spiderman comics so if i get something wrong feel free to correct me :3 i doubt anyone will because. people dont read comics much anymore but :33

miles morales is my favorite spiderman because god no one is going through it like him. if you have only seen him in itsv/atsv you would probably think oh yeah his uncle dying and then 2099 trying to make sure his dad dies is pretty fucked up. which it is!!! itsv!miles is consistently going through it. but when you compare him to the comics its like oh okay. they cut him some slack actually

in the comics, peter parker dies and miles morales becomes spiderman, similar to itsv. but miles is 13 when this happens. at the ripe age of 13 he is going through the average spiderman trauma. the worst in my opinion would be his relationship with his uncle aaron, which is NOT as happy and loving as they make it in itsv. in the comics, aaron finds out that he is spiderman, and then uses this against him. he forces him to do his dirty work, and take care of enemies hes made as the prowler. if miles refuses, aaron says he will tell his dad that hes spiderman.

side note: jeff morales is NOTHING like he is in the spiderverse films. he hates mutants, and assumes that spiderman must be some kind of mutant, therefore hates spiderman

anyways, miles and aarons relationship gets so strained that they end up getting into this huge fight. aarons weapons that he gets from the tinkerer end up short circuiting when miles shocks him, and aaron DIES. the thing is, miles doesnt know that his gear was faulty. so he is fully under the impression that he just KILLED his uncle.

more shit happens after this but im going to now talk about his NEXT most fucked thing ever. in the comics, venom is portrayed as an almost animalistic creature. he seems to be completely in control of eddie. and venom is completely obsessed with spiderman. i dont know exactly what their relationship is but venom has this strange primal urge to Find Him. so when peter parker dies, he finds miles. i cant remember exactly why, but he ends up in the hospital that rio morales works at. police are called into the hospital and since theyre fucking cops, start OPEN FIRING into this room full of patients and medical professionals. AND SHE IS SHOT AND DIES.

so at this point, 2/3 of miles’ close family members are dead. all he has is his dad, who hates spiderman.

then miles’ universe is attacked by galactus, who if you dont know is a giant planet eating alien. basically they are in an apocalyptic hell. and miles can only think about saving his dad. its all he cares about. his dad is the only person that matters in this moment. so he comes in through the window of their apartment, dressed as spiderman, and he says that they HAVE to get out of there. he HAS to keep him safe. it doesnt matter that hes spiderman anymore, his dad shouldnt care! the planet is being fucking eaten!!!! but jefferson morales immediately turns and runs the other way. and once galactus is defeated, miles cannot find him. the apartment is bare. his father is gone. he doesnt know if hes alive or dead.

miles has 0 family to take care of him. his only support system is ganke (his ‘guy in the chair’, his universe version of ned leeds basically) his girlfriend kate bishop, and his borderline parental polycule mj watson, gwen stacy, and spiderwoman. WHICH BTW. spiderwoman sees peter parker die, and immediately is so attached to miles. like that is her baby and she will NOT let anythint happen to him

his relationship with jessica drew is so damn important to me. because theyre both avengers and initially, she does Not want him there. she doesnt want to have to work with some kid, and she does not think the world needs another spiderman, i mean they have her right? later on though its revealed that she just really cared about peter parker and him dying absolutely destroyed her. she doesnt want the same thing to happen to miles. and after the galactus event, miles quits being spiderman. and she tries everything in her power to get him to come back. that is her son. sobbing

i would also like to mention that ganke is Very into miles. and everyone can tell. kate tells him. his dad tells him. its very obvious.

ANYWAYS. this is as far as ive read in the comics but holy SHIT man. that is a fucking ton to go through as a 13 year old!!! thats fucked up!!!!!! holy shit!!!!!!!!

and then in the insomniac game hes grown up. his father is dead. and his childhood best friend is a supervillain. i would HIGHLY recommend playing the game honestly it is amazing and i LOVE their version of the tinkerer.

another thing i love about miles morales is ganke. he hasnt really been fleshed out in the spiderverse films but he is so cool. in the insomniac game he creates an app that has people tell spiderman their problems and then he can go help them out. which is AWESOME because i love side quests. in the comics, miles goes to live with him after his dad leaves. and hes just so fucking kind. hes the only person miles tells hes spiderman and theyre just so close and it makes me smile hard.

the main reason i love miles morales so much is that my nephew loves him, he dressed up as him for halloween a couple years ago. so every time i see him i think about my nephew. hes my best friend man

uhmm if you made it this far thank you for listening to me being soooo autistic

[myplecostomusrulestheworld]

spoilers for itsv and atsv

okay so unfortunately i can’t find the screenshot right now but in into the spiderverse when miles takes the leap of faith the first time, and he falls off the building, at the bottom when he’s laying there, the numbers 4 and 2 are surrounding him, with 4 on the left side of his head and 2 on the right side, making the number 42

and like is that some insane foreshadowing or what because holy crap

also sorry ive been forgetting to put spoiler warnings on my posts, i will remember from now on

[arian-thedreamer]

PeterMiles: a playlist.

(Warning‼️ post and related materials (including playlist itself) contains spoilers for the spider-verse films)

Youtube ver:

Spotify ver:

Track list:

ITSV:

Tokyo daylight

GUY.exe

BRAND NEW WORLD

I want this song 2 never end

Whims of fate

The days when my mother was there

Don't you dare (make me fall in love with you)

Seventeen

MY MY MY!

Animal

Fools

Passing through (can't the future just wait)

Love like you (feat. Rebecca Sugar) (reprise)

ATSV:

Time adventure (Rebecca Sugar)

Tokyo daylight (ATLUS kozuka remix)

When my mother was there (ATLUS kitajoh remix)

Lost in the citadel

Mr. Loverman

Two time

You

10/10

Love like you

IN A DREAM

Note: for an optimal storytelling experience, the YouTube is recommended(songs may play out of order and some are not available on Spotify).

(Track update 7/3/23)

[starishellspawn]

Atvs/Itsv nation and SMG4 nation.

I HAVE AN IDEA

What if like. SMG2 met Miles. Cause like. They can relate to each other.

Oh. And Atsv spoilers in the prompt underneath

Miles: “I lost my uncle. What about you?”

SMG2: “my best friend. And my uncle.”

Miles: “damn. I got chased down by a spider society”

SMG2: “damn. I almost died to an Eldritch god…who turned out to be my father. Both of them.”

Miles: “damn. I almost died to the prowler. He turned out to be my uncle.”

SMG2: “Miles? Do you think we’ll ever catch a break?”

Miles: “2, if I had to be honest. hell no.”

SMG2: “agreed”

They would be such a good duo….they would……………..try and change my mind

[z0mbk1tty]

here's my list of other cool fictional characters i feel like miles be literally besties with:]

HEADS UP!! There are gonna be some huge spoilers from other fandoms and characters so if you havent watched/played/etc the stuff then i maybe recommend you to that or not! Its fine u dont wanna:)

ok so idk how to start the list BUT WHO CARES LETS DO IT ANYWAY BABEH!!!

(Also ill explain why i think the characters and miles could possibly be cool buddsters)

Tanjiro kamado from demon slayer/kimetsu no yaiba: i think tanjiros positivity and energetic personality would be a pretty good example i think but tanjiro really cares about others and will literally risk his own life just to save someone, so like if there was ever a tanjiro spiderman i feel like tanjiro would just be super positive and kind with miles. Like literally if someone is mad at tanjiro or something like that one scene in season 3 where genya is just being grumpy but tanjiro uses his best boi eyes and makes genya literally stunned lol. But tanjiro would also be also comforting and caring to miles because like just imagine if miles was sad and stuff but tanjiro is like "nuh uh!" And comforts him LIKE HHSHSHSHS!! Even in the anime he's caring and super kind,super light hearted,very pure like hes just a happy fella and i think miles needs a postive friend like tanjiro cuz if yall watched itsv and atsv...yk what poor miles had to go through bro😭

Deku/ Izuku Midoriya: OKK just a quick uhhh explaining uhmm...i haven't watched..mha.. IMM SORRYY IK UR GONNA HATE ON ME CUZ OF IT BUT LISTEENNNN!! HEAR ME OUT. i saw one fanart of a cool crossover with the characters miles and Deku and i just thought that they might be cool friends even tho i havent watched the anime or read the manga. But if you are a mha fan..PLS SHARE UR OPINION ON THISS😭😭

Kel/kelsey from omori: Again just like tanjiro. Kind of. Again i feel like miles needs an friend that is super positive and always tries to lighten the mood. Literally when mari died kel was still happy and joyful. Thats literally because he tries to lighten the mood of his friends and make them happy again like LAST YEARS BRO! He literally tried to help aubrey to stop bullying basil and tried maybe helping her to come back to the friend group like years ago yk? So imagine if frickin spider man kel or whatever actually does that to miles when he feels sad to? And plus i think kel and miles would be an pretty powerful duo as both spiderman lol.

Kagamine len/ Len: ik what yall gonna say for this. "oH iTs imPosSiblE foR thEm tO Be frIenDs bla bla bla"Quit with the chatterbox. IF there is a miku spider woman then there is a len spider man IDC. Anyways ik miles and len would be an unstoppable duo! Literally. Even tho len is a fricking voice machine and miles is a person with spider powers. They'd still be buddies if they met cause hear me out! Look ive never played pjsk before cuz of storage issues so i could never even detect what lens actual personality is like but to me he seems out going and funni:) and idk something about them screams best friends yk?

Hero/Henry (yes thats his real name..) from omori: wowzers another omori character. Yeah i kinda ran outta ideas so i just chose another omori character! But lemme cook rq brosters. If kel could be bros with miles then kels brother TOO!!! 1 he could prob teach miles some cooking recipes even tho he quitted doing that. 2 i feel like hero and miles would be like brother figure dynamic prob like kel i guess? And again MILES NEEDS MORE CARING FRIENDS BRO!! AND HERO IS CARING CUZ HE LITERALLY SAVED SUNNY FROM DROWNING AND BASIL TOO!!

Anyways thats all i have for this! Pls tell me what fictional characters you think miles could be buddies with in the comments or your opinions! And also its alright if you disagree with something in this list just remember that these are just my opinions so im fine with you not buying it lol

[slytherinroyalty16]

ATSV opinion on Gwen (spoilers)

She got on my FUCKING NERVES!!!!!

She was pretty good in ITSV but the second one really pissed me off.

If Miles hadn't followed her into the portal, he would be stuck on her even longer. Any future relationship he could have, he can't put all his effort on his s/o because he would compare them to Gwen. I have read an INSURMOUNTABLE amount of fics with this narrative and ends up (if it's that kind of fic) regretting the way he treated them when they come across e!42 miles, whom didn't have a Gwen, only a dead or partner in crime s/o.

She was given explicit instructions to not see miles, no matter how much she missed him. I understand she had a task in his universe but she knew she couldn't have contact with him and STILL approached him.

(Sidenote: if she was gonna break Miguel's rules anyways, why didn't she see him sooner? She waited until it was convenient for her to make a grand appearance. While I know that Miguel and Jessica were keeping tabs on her, she still broke their rules and popped up. Why couldn't she do that maybe a week or two after she was given the watch, not a whole 6 MONTHS)

She is so toxic to miles in the second movie that it might as well be radioactive waste. NGL, I was kinda rooting for them in the first movie. They had a nice chemistry going that I could respect and I genuinely thought that they could have something going on.

Second movie threw that idea out the window.

Miles had more chemistry with Hobie in 5 minutes then what he and Gwen had in 2 MOVIES.

The scene when he and Gwen were upside down on that clocktower(?) he makes it known that he has feelings for her, maybe not directly, but enough where the message can get across.

She CURBS him just to put her head on his shoulder. MIXED SIGNALS AS FUCK!!!!

Fast forward to the chase scene, you wanna know who helped him out? HOBIE!!! Miles knew him for less than 24 hours and he treated him better than Gwen ever did. Hobie, not only helped I'm escape, he QUIT the society just so he wouldn't have to chase him. Meanwhile, GWEN WAS PRACTICALLY LEADING THE ARMY BEHIND MIGUEL!!!! She is, infact, a dick rider.

How much you wanna bet she's gonna be captain save a hoe in the third movie just to get in Miles' good graces again?

TL,DR: FUCK THAT BITCH GWEN STACY

Thank you for coming to my Ted talk

[lexicals]

You can finally do readmores on mobile which means I am unstoppable. Atsv spoilers below I am sharing my thoughts

1. EVERYONE SAY THANK YOU TO THE RIGGERS COMPOSITING ARTISTS VFX ARTISTS ETC. THE ANIMATORS DID AN AMAZING JOB OFC BUT THE TECHNICAL WORK ON THIS FILM IS UNBELIEVABLE

2. I knew I was gonna love hobie but I adore hobie. I love how I knew from minute one this guy knew what was up and was out to shake things up. I'm so excited to see more of him in the next one

3. SPEAKING OF. I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU GAVE ME HALF A MOVIE SONY. This is not an actual complaint I understand why this was done this way but man give me some WARNING THAT I'M GONNA LEAVE WITH IT ALL UNRESOLVED

4. I love pavitr I love spiderbyte I love all the new spideys so much. Most importantly I LOVE THAT GWEN GOT SO MUCH TIME DEDICATED TO HER. IT'S WHAT SHE DESERVES

5. I really really enjoy the setup of miles being framed as a force of chaos especially compared to a lot of much more put together spider people and having miguel as a foil because he's all about control!! The first part of the film builds up to the reveal so well that I was ready for it in a good way it felt right for him and right for the narrative. Miles' thing in itsv has always been about carving your own narrative and your own way of doing things so it's cool that atsv expands on and really doubles down on it

6. Atsv said cops are always gonna be cops first and good cops quit! I don't think their handling was perfect but I appreciate that much at least

7. God the movement. The visuals. The everything. I want to print this film out frame by frame and wallpaper my house with it

8. When are we gonna find out who the little lady with the heart glasses is huh. I feel like she's kept appearing but there's no actual explanation as to who she is. I'm watching that!

9. I have to include a negative. I really hated the live action inclusions. They felt really jarring and just like something to appease the mcu fans which is not what I'm looking for in these films. Just kind of unnecessary and didn't really add anything imo

10. All! The callbacks!! To itsv!!! Fuck man idk if it's just me being someone who's seen that film 50+ times but there were so many little things I was going nuts. Like obviously there were some really big ones but the ones that were subtle visual callbacks specifically had me leaving this mortal plane. The one sticking in my brain rn is miles taking the glass with him when he jumps again but also the being tied to the punching bag and the running upside down over the crossing at his school and the pigeons and

11. The spot is suuuuch a good villain for miles. He's not supposed to be there.... he initially doesn't seem all that important. And he's a chaotic villain for miles the chaotic hero, I love that

12. The anti establishment narrative. Chef kiss. Yes. Question the rules!! Who says this has to be the way!! Pavitr's "I can do both" hobie's "know what you're fighting against"!! Yelling screaming

13. I can't believe I got to 13 of these but also yes I can. Bro the fuckin queer allegories ae you kidding. The not being able to tell your parents the "finding others like you who understand" it feels so obvious but I have to say it anyway

I feel like I'm gonna have more to say as my brian keeps chewing and I'm DEFINITELY going to go watch again asap but in summary AAAAAAAAA

[suethesocks]

Do ya watched the new Spider-man across the spider-verse's cartoon?

Hello person who asked me a question all the way back in november of last year, im so sorry for making you wait so long for such a basic answer 😭😭

hopefully to make up for this, if i yap enough itll be like a years worth of answer, so strap in

To answer the question though yup!! I watched ATSV around a month after it came out. At first i wanted to watch it asap in cinemas but unfortunately it was banned here in egypt because of the fricking. Trans pride flag that appears for 2 seconds in gwens room in the blurry obscured background so that sucked

After waiting a long time for it to have a digital release eventually i gave in because the spoilers were getting too unavoidable and just watched a camrip with my friends in their house. Which was very unfortunate but i still enjoyed it. And i definitely enjoyed rewatching it like 5 times since then when the digital release was out

I think the movie visually innovates even more than the first one did. Theres nothing i feel was lacking they really did build up on everything from ITSV and then some. Everything was so beautiful and full of life and all the designs be it new characters or old are just so good and the animation and aesthetics are top notch. Its the kind of movie you watch frame by frame on purpose

I do think the movie was hurt by being a half movie though, as it does very much feel like half a story. I do like that gwen goes through something of an arc in this movie so at least *something* gets concluded. And its nice to have an implied transfem character take center stage!

I enjoyed a lot how grown up miles feels in this movie, especially when you contrast it with some early production deleted scenes and the teaser clip they released a long while ago. There he felt like he was still his ITSV self still sort of needing to prove himself, but in this movie he really does feel like he has grown. And for that im thankful i wouldnt want the movie to basically just repeat his arc twice

I mean it kind of is the same arc but its from different perspectives (which i dont think is ideal tbh and i wouldve appreciated a third direction but oh well) in the first movie he felt the need to prove himself and that theres a chance he could be Spider-Man. He wanted the other spiders' approval and to get to be just like them. But in this movie hes more confident and knows his place, this is a kid that knows he's Spider-Man, and he dont give a fuck what you say. Hes got the whole world telling him he doesnt have it figured out and maybe even his brain is saying that to him too but hes still gonna be like "no, im right youre wrong. debate over"

And at the same time it doesnt feel like stubbornness. He takes the time to understand the situation, assessed it smartly, comes up with his own conclusions, and acts accordingly. This miles is definitely not just a kid anymore (so much so that to this day im actually still suspicious that miles was meant to be 17 or 18 but they decided last minute they didnt wanna have that big of a timeskip)

Spot was pretty great in this movie too. I knew from the start that despite being sort of a nothing-villain in the comics spiderverse was gonna have a looot of fun with him, especially ever since i saw that one piece of art they released way back before even the teaser i believe, which had spot with sketch lines above him like the shapes guidelines you draw when doing a rough sketch. And they certainly did not disappoint there hes definitely reality warping with a capital R W. Really i got no complaints about spot i think hes a fantastic villain, though i wish the movie took him a little more seriously. Just removing that "i think he kicked his own butt haha!!!!" scene wouldve made all the difference in the world imo

miss cheng cameo goes hard

Miguel is probably the most conflicting thing for me in this movie, i cannot decide if i like this adaptation of him or not, though im leaning towards not i think. I will say im glad to finally have a piece of media where Spider-Man 2099 is like the main focus finally, hes the main character next to miles and gwen. Ive been a fan of his 90s comics for as long as ive been a fan of comics, and other than SM Edge of Time he never got his moment to shine really. Now this absolute unit of a man is coming in and absolutely stealing the show whenever hes onscreen. It was nice, as a longtime SM2099 fan to see now in 2023 just miguel fanart and miguels ass n titties everywhere on my timeline

They do get a lot of stuff right with this adaptation, even small stuff i wouldnt expect just anyone to get. Like his talons!! Most people draw them like long nails like typical claws but they actually extend from under his finger like a hook, and i was so glad to see the movie get that right haha. He also has.... a cape. He doesnt really use it which like i hate but maybe capes are too much trouble to animate idfk. He has his fangs and was gonna use them on vulture (loved vultures design so fucking much btw) so clearly they remembered he can inject paralyzing venom so that gets huge thumbsup from me even if he doesnt get to actually use it

This movie also gets miguel so right in terms of characterization. Nothing will ever beat Chris Daniel Barnes' take on miggy but Oscar Isaac does a great job in his own right as well and is definitely a take i can accept, im just probably too used to hearing chris barnes' voice playing EoT so many times over the years. And its great to have a hispanic actor doing the voice this time!! In general i love the fact that he has darker skin and speaks a bit of spanish in this movie, atsv rememberes miguel is half hispanic more than the comics themselves seem to sometimes haha

This miguel talks like how comic miguel talks he quips how he quips he has the same sarcastic deadpan humor hes funny and snarky and talks like hes smarter but not in an arrogant way because he can kind of back it up. He also fights how i imagine miguel would fight he uses his claws he gets brutal, shits AWESOME. When it comes to dialogue and interactions, this miguel definitely lives up to how i imagine Peter David wouldve written him

Whats really bothering me about miguel is how, despite them nailing the characters personality so so well, the movie also seems not that interested in him and his lore and world at all. He just doesnt have the love and care and history that Peter B Parker seemed to have

I mean, if its still in the year 2099 then wheres Alchemax? The whole point of SM 2099's comics is that Alchemax is a megacorporation thats infected most corners of life. It should have a looming presence EVERYWHERE, but its not even here as an easter egg. Which i have to say is quite bizarre considering Alchemax ALREADY exists in this universe front and center so why not even a reference. I think this is such a crucial part of SM2099's mythos that removing it is genuinely a problem for adapting Nueva York. Not to mention the complete lack of any sort of cops or security at all, again a looming presence that should definitely exist in 2099. Without those aspects Uptown becomes just like any generic futuristic city (when it should, at least, be a generic DYSTOPIAN futuristic city, lmao)

Also the movie's lack of interest in having any references to Gabriel or Conchata or Dana what so ever. I get that this is bordering on fan service but idk, at the very least Dana right??? I mean she dies in the comics, surely part of what miguel longed for in that alternate universe he went to was that Dana still lived there so why not nudge to the fans a little. At least through the form of having miguel comic scenes show in the slideshow thing he made for miles (though i get not having any miguel scenes there, since miguel probably wouldnt intentionally reveal his past to someone just like that)

I mean come on this movies so uninterested in any fan service in general when it comes to miggy. No references to comic covers or something no calling miguel S-Man he says shock ONCE, i feel like its the little bits of fanservice like that that dont like overbear on the story but really add a lot by nodding to the fans and showing that you did a lot of homework

Theres also the weird way they revise his powers here, seemingly working in the form of regular doses he takes to give himself powers rather than be powers he has like the comics, and the lack of organic webbing. Theres also no reference to his enhanced vision as far as i remember. And i have NEVER been a fan of miguels suit having advanced tech built into it. The watch is one thing, the holographic cape and nanomachine esque suit which uses energy and the laser webs and energy spikes he uses to latch onto stuff its all just ehhhh i never vibed with that in the comics and i definitely dont like it here (save that shit for the white suit at least if youre gonna go that route)

This lack of interest in his powers also means, if theres no alchemax looming existence in the world, and the movie intentionally REFUSES to give us a "my name is miguel o'hara" moment to go over his origin, then we are left with actually nothing to imply alchemax even exists in this world

Just no real interest in what made Spider-Man 2099 work so well in his world, as a privileged man who went down and saw the real world and realized how wrong he was about just everything and that he must rebel against those privileged like him and more. Who works with a suit made of fabric just like any ol human against super cops armed with armor and guns

Instead he runs a whole society himself (ironically, the only thing to imply alchemax's existence now. maybe this movie is a miguel from after the point in the comics where he takes over alchemax, which would mean alchemax's only implication in this world is that miguel runs a multibillion dollar corporation and uses its resources how he wants. not good...), hes not aggressively anti corpo anymore, he has a teched up suit, and he just ACTS like a ceo. This guy is basically spider-punk before spider-punk was a thing, and yet here he is being in the exact opposite side to hobie!

Honestly if it werent for a few factors like the powers thing id have actually said "wait let them cook" because i wouldve then thought that miguel being so wrong is the POINT of this whole thing like miguel is a sellout and theyre gonna call him out and reference how he USED to be in flashbacks, but i honestly do not believe that was actually their intention despite it actually fitting so well in an almost genius way if it WAS on purpose

It comes off a bit MCU-ish how they almost dont have faith in how cool 2099 is and think the only thing worth "salvageing" is miguel and his attitude, when the world is pretty rich with things fans like me wouldve loved to see either recreated in the spiderverse style or innovated on and made into something completely new and interesting; and also non-fans wouldve loved to see to learn more about SM2099 and his world. I mean half the fandom thought Miguel is a vampire because he has fangs, thats how much this movie doesnt do anything for the world of 2099

Wew that was a doozy, sorry for rambling so much about miguel when talking about movie-not-about-miguel, its just between Miles Gwen and Miguel he was the one i was most starved for content for and he was the one im most educated on and on what i would want to see when i see him onscreen haha

hope this longass post full of insane ramblings of a mad woman was worth the yearlong wait in my tumblr asks shdsjhdsdhs again sorry it took me so long to look at my asks