#it's TERFs and transmisogynists

[anastacialy]

i do not know how to explain to people that "transmisogyny" is the specific transphobia that trans women + transfems face (often but not exclusively at the hands of cis people), and "transandrophobia" is the specific transphobia that trans men + mascs face (often but not exclusively at the hands of cis people), and that they all come together under the umbrella of "transphobia." these are not opposing concepts nor are they mutually exclusive, to believe in one does not mean non-belief in the other. is there a simpler way of phrasing this. can i be clearer.

[alyrch99]

I just want to say that if you devote your time, money, attention, and the resources of your social media platform to censoring and attacking trans women during an ongoing massive cultural reactionary movement with us in its crosshairs, not only are you part of the problem, but you are a heartless piece of shit to such a degree that you should not be able to look yourself in the eyes.

You are dragging a woman's protections away from her as an ongoing campaign works to tear her down. She said literally hours ago that she was posting about this to try and protect herself and her name from the false and highly politicized allegations against her, so you respond by having a hissy fit that people are asking what happened and replying by snap deleting all of her accounts??? Are you 6 years old? Have you no conception of right or wrong???

[ovaryuri]

"dont be hostile toward men because what if they're closeted trans women" becoming a genuine talking point the queer community is starting to use is making my head hurt oh my days

[gremlingirlsmell]

iunno calling transfems "transvestigators" for doing egg jokes and harmless speculating about dead celebrities in search of representation that is already so rare, is a new low. they love to paint us as terfs, a hate group specifically dedicated to eradicate us, not just for standing up for ourselves and speaking up about transmisogyny. no, now they're doing it even if we seek solidarity and representation.

[maxellminidisc]

Once again, please stop reblogging from lesbian-archives. They have tags for rad feminism, "gynocentricism", "womb envy", antiprostitution, and separatists tags along with other similar terminology in terf and swerf communities on their blog. It's literally within the most used tags when you go to search. Plus they used to reblog from terfs often enough and use said tags until they decided to be a lil more cryptic I guess....

[clowncary]

Apparently we need a refresher...

This is an archive (not by me) for the "Hot Takes" from Baeddels. If anyone even regurgitates these beliefs, they are alongside one of the dangers to queer community (transphobia, exorsexism, anti-trans and queer legislation, misgendering, restrictive gender binaries, IGM, etc).

thank you to @/nothorses for these posts here ... https://www.tumblr.com/nothorses/704122852220223488?source=share and https://medium.com/@greyson.not.horses/when-b%C3%A6ddels-took-them-d75d9e1688d6

Baeddel Believers agree that:

- All manhood is oppressive.

- Gender can be a choice.

- One’s gender has ethical consequences.

- Being a man is ethically bad, including transition to manhood.

- Being a woman is ethically good, including transition to womanhood.

- Trans men male privilege.

- Trans men have it easy regarding passing, go “stealth”, and benefit from male privilege due to AGAB.

- Trans men are misogynistic and transmisogynistic, and must be held accountable.

"...the term “Baeddel” itself is likely more applicable- if not exclusively applicable- to intersex people, rather than trans women. Making their reclamation of it as a “transmisogynistic slur”"

Let's Talk About Bæddels: A Comprehensive Retrospective. Intersex People, paragraph one.

Many baeddels will excuse this intersexisms, some using their intersexness as an excuse.

when you see a baeddel in YOUR COMMUNITY, you stand the fuck up and say something. I want to hear your voice. YOU shouldn't sit down and shut up, I want to hear you scream. This is not fearmongering, this is talking about a form of radical feminism and lesbian separatism that have been active since the 2010s and still present, with spotted activity, in 2024.

[onlyfangz]

everytime i see some dumbfuck transgender terminally online discourse im reminded that cisgender people dont have to deal with this shit and i age 10 years.

[dykesynthezoid]

It’s crazy how much people will tell on themselves by being openly transmisogynistic in trying to “gotcha” completely mundane feminist/sapphic shit with “idk this seems kinda terfy to me :/”

There’s that vintage lesbian sex party invite going around and someone is actually claiming the fact that is specifies “women only” means it’s terfy. Can we fucking… can we… like. How can you people not go two minutes without implying you think trans women are men. It’s crazy. Sorry but we have no idea, actually, how inclusive or exclusive this random lesbian orgy from the 70s was, and just saying it’s “women only” doesn’t indicate anything other than it’s, y’know, a lesbian sex party.

[cruelsister-moved2]

feels like a lot of you didn’t see the study which found that lesbians are the most likely of the whole LGBT+ community to support trans people because i still keep seeing takes like “not ALL lesbians are terfs, just because a lot are 🥰” or “most lesbians aren’t terfs, but most terfs are lesbians, so it’s fine to hold lesbians to extra scrutiny 😍” or casual, unsupported claims that “transphobia is a big[ger] issue in the lesbian community” by people who actually think they’re doing lesbian positivity and it’s INSANE because you’re wrong! and this leads to a significant proportion of lesbians actually delaying coming out because they’re afraid of being assumed to be transphobes, meanwhile transphobia among bi people and gay men (and transmisogyny among tme trans people) often goes completely unchecked.��

[multi-lefaiye]

haha wow!! what a good post about misogyny and transphobia!! you're not about to recreate bioessentialism and slap a trans-friendly coat of paint on it though, right??? proving you have not actually deconstructed those ideas in your brain and still believe radfem-style gender essentialism... right??

[struck-by-the-rain]

terves love to fearmonger and throw hissy fits about "vulnerable autistic gay girls being manipulated into thinking they're trans/non-binary" and like... ok I'm sorry I've spent so many years growing up being treated as some weird, freaky little alien creature rather than as girl/woman, why are you mad that I'm embracing that label and being proud of it as who I am? why are you clutching your pearls so furiously about me walking away from a gender I never felt welcome or comfortable in, partially because of people like you? as much as you claim to be my "sister" or have good intentions for me I guarantee you were one of the kids who would have been treating me like a weird pet on the school playground, the way you talk down to autistic trans people like myself is one and the same as the singsong voice kids would use when they mockingly called me "their best friend!!!". you just hate autistic people having a backbone and autonomy and not having any authority over the weird kid at school anymore

[bauliya]

the website that routinely bullies trans women to penury is so anti-TERF it's shitting on rape victims. wow.

[pleasuresoftheharbor]

anytime i step outside my mutual circle i'm always shocked by how prevalent the #Notallmen misandry truther attitudes are on here like you people are so doomed...

[nervoustragedyluminary]

"all people who talk about transandrophobia are white " Zionists" ... Oh also all the Black trans men who talk about it are sexual predators if they exist which they don't because everyone who talks about transandrophobia is white "

Do some of you hear yourselves?

Like ive seen contradicting accusations in the notes one person says "they sexualise everything" the next is "they're prudes who hate sex positivity " like not to mention the infantalisation and "stolen trans valor" & "you're not the sexuality you say you are actually" like how is this criticising misogyny and transmisogyny?

Also just the sheer hatred and erasure of intersex and multi gender people like geez

Like what was actually said because all of the notes aren't talking about that they're just making up a caricature of a "theyfab trender who isn't really as trans as real trans people but are invading lesbian spaces to force real lesbians to fuck men" to be mad at rather than "this specific thing they said was misogynistic /lesbiphobic"

Instead it's all just like "no you have to detransition to reclaim misogynistic slurs that have been used against you or to be a lesbian otherwise you hate women" or "trans men must be binary & only use binary terms and" male terms" or else they're fakers" like what? In the 70s radfem fried fuck is going on?

Like you know that nonbinary people exist right?

That trans butches (of all agabs) exist right?

That intersex people who might use language that seems "contradictory" at first exist right? Like idk if someone is being misogynistic surely there's misogyny to point to rather than claiming that their identity/existence itself is misogynistic?

[crystalistrappedintheinternet]

adding tme to my bio bc while on one hand announcing my birth sex makes me dysphoric on the other hand. some of you are misogynists

[gremlingirlsmell]

i hope all the baby transfems who are in friend groups and communities full of tme ppl who lambast them 24/7 with nonsense like saying speaking up against transmisogyny is dividing the community and "terf shit" get out and find better community.