#it just occurred to me that she will likely be the next Yellowjacket to die based on the direction the show is going šŸ˜­
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juniperhillpatient Ā· 2 years ago
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actually Iā€™m thinking about lottie matthews again & itā€™s not happy in case you were wondering. Iā€™m thinking about how season 2 starts with lottie feeding her blood to nat & travis to keep them alive so that they can provide for the group & the way itā€™s juxtaposed with lottie right after the crash & sheā€™s being drugged & institutionalized against her will - forced to take drugs she didnā€™t ask for. lottie is so desperate to give & give & give even if it destroys her & she doesnā€™t actually want to take. sheā€™s given the drugs by her parents & the psyches even if she doesnā€™t want them & sheā€™s fed javiā€™s corpse & made responsible for his death even though she did not order it or want it & instead begged them to eat her - she wants to give her own body to her friends to eat thatā€™s how little she cares about herself or her bodily autonomy!
Iā€™m thinking about lottie matthews putting her hands behind her back & giving herself to shauna so that shauna can take out all her rage & grief on her. & itā€™s easy to route against modern lottie & her unnecessary order of the hunt but itā€™s not easy to hate her for it because she genuinely believes someone has to die & I think she actually wants it to be her - she certainly doesnā€™t take any steps to stop it from being her. lottie has been treated like sheā€™s crazy & locked away all her life & it happens again in the season 2 finale.
Iā€™m thinking about lottie matthews & how sheā€™s technically the first ā€œleaderā€ in the wilderness but itā€™s a title foisted upon her. Iā€™m thinking about lottie matthews & how all she ever wanted was to give herself to others even if it killed her & she never had a moment of autonomy in her life.
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much-like-home Ā· 2 years ago
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I havenā€™t wanted to add anything to the Yellowjackets s2 conversation bc everyoneā€™s been doing a great job at summing up the issues w the season. But especially after 2x08, itā€™s been EATING at me.
I donā€™t remember whose post it was but someone described it best saying ā€œ10/10 vision, 5/10 executionā€.
We all know that a lot of these characters in ā€˜96 have to die at SOME point but A) the how should be the interesting part and B) the characters should feel more like characters when they do die versus placeholders for an impending death.
Yeah we all knew Jackie was gonna die, but how it culminated was a fantastic build-up and she was developed, we knew her so we got to feel the extra sting.
With Javi, whoā€™s been there since the Pilot and granted heā€™s not a main character so I was never expecting him (or any of the guys for that matter) to get the screentime the girls get but you can do a lot with a little. He couldā€™ve felt like an actual character. But nah, heā€™d been missing for nearly 5 episodes straight and then barely speaks and is irrelevant for the next 4 but when itā€™s time for him to die NOW we get to see his brotherhood w Travis, NOW he has a relationship with someone other than Shauna and Travis at the cabin, NOW he gets to speak. Itā€™s just weak. Javiā€™s death sucked, it was hard to watch, and itā€™s such a good turning point for the story but it didnā€™t really make me feel anything like most of the plot beats in s1 and like plot beats are supposed to in a series!!
You can argue thereā€™s not enough time in episodes to develop these side characters more (hell, even teen!Nat and Travis get sidelined a lot of the time) but there could be if we didnā€™t have all the new (boring) subplots in the present with the cops and Walter. Jeff eats a lot of screen time too but I digress.
And I guess the last point I want to address is yeah, another post mentioned that the entire discussion about the card ritual shouldā€™ve been a bottle episode and fuck do I agree. Not so we can understand and get spoonfed the rules but god thereā€™s so much interesting character work that couldā€™ve occurred in an episode like that. Character work that is NECESSARY in a show like this, in a psychological character-driven show about trauma like this.
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teabookgremlin Ā· 2 years ago
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babe wake up lilaā€™s thoughts on yellowjackets 02x04 just dropped. as per usual spoilers below cut. i loved this weekā€™s ep so very hyped to share my thoughts!
- obsessed w/ fugue state tai at jessica robertsā€™ house. she was on a fucking mission and i respect it. i really liked having her wake up on the way to find van, i was kinda hoping sheā€™d only come to once arriving at vanā€™s shop but i liked to see that tai still had the same goal as other tai
- kinda obsessed with the new cover of the intro song, i mean it always goes so hard but it definitely slapped this week, wonder if itā€™ll stay this way for the rest of the season or not
- I DO NOT TRUST WALTER he knows what misty likes just too well. the musicals, the flattery, calling her a good friend, he wants something from her and he is trying to get her to trust him. i doubt she will and i want him to die at her hand but weā€™ll see as long as they donā€™t end up a couple iā€™m chill
- misty and crystal singing and annoying the others i love these loser girls so much
- who do we think stole some of the bear? i would say ben but like it would be hard for him to get out there without anyone noticing and i donā€™t think he has the motivation to go through extra effort for food rn. maybe javi? i donā€™t think sleep walking tai bc van has been following her. adding this to the list of cabin mysteries right next to who shit in the piss bucket
-Ā ā€œwhat exactly would you do about it, eat me?ā€ ben no longer gives a fuck he is so ready to be bitchy to these cannibal teenagers and i love that for him
- very interested by lottie this episode oh boy, but as iā€™m going chronologically lets start with her silence when the hunting competition was proposed. itā€™s really interesting to me how she doesnā€™t seem to want this at all, like she does not want the influence she has over the girls, she does not want to be seen as this power and iā€™m intrigued to know if thatā€™ll change at all
- now onto adult lottie: i want to know if something in particular happened to make her so scared of her visions bc in the wilderness so far sheā€™s just been kinda going along with them so iā€™m curious to see when that shift occurs
- need to know what the dripping is that mari hears and absolutely loved her asking akilah to help her find it. mari is a hater to everyone but her we love to see it
- AKILAH MY BEST FRIEND AKILAH THE LITTLE MOUSE FRIEND SO FUCKING CUTE AKILAH IS JUST LIKE ME FOR REAL
- lottie returned to bear heart altar to perform a blood sacrifice ā€”> did this bring the moose in some way?Ā 
- obsessed with nat being so protective over lisa when they were with her mother that was so sweet nat really is the kindest of the bunch
-Ā ā€œnot a bad person just a bad criminalā€ shauna you are in not position to judge how good a criminal someone is you also kinda suck at it
- nat taking the fish was so cute
- i donā€™t even know what to say about lottieā€™s hallucination except iā€™m in pain and lottie lee is real we won but iā€™m still very sad
- nat after they lost the moose made me want to cry. she is putting so much pressure on herself to feed everyone and just ugh she is making me feel things. and then her blaming herself for lottie almost dying too my girl <3
- LOTTIENAT thatā€™s it thatā€™s all i have for the tub scene
- so intrigued by the queen of hearts w/ eyes scratched out, maybe some connection to man w/ no eyes? connection to antler queen? idk maybe we will see lottie find out about man w/ no eyes and thatā€™ll mean something?
- what the fuck happened to javi. where was he. howā€™d he survive.Ā whatā€™s wrong with him. is that even the real javi. i have many questions
- i think that van becoming increasingly convinced that tai has a connection to wilderness is going to lead to tai leaning into it more to stay close to van. their dynamic will probably start to shift more and iā€™m so interested to see how
- ok now onto the best part: ADULT TAIVAN THEY ARE HERE WE HAVE THEM MY BELOVEDS HAVE BEEN REUNITED
- just vanā€™s expression when seeing tai, the little barely there smile as she says her name, her little shop, sheā€™s real sheā€™s here i love her sheā€™s amazing thank you lauren
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