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another day another post about kaito regretting being kid When will you people understand
#drop#head in hands. he likes it!!! he's said himself he wants to continue even after he's found pandora!!! Guys!!!!!!#I understand. angst and all that. But you can have that and also have it bring him genuine joy#with this series i tend to sympathize with the popular fanon more than other interests because the character writing can be. shallow.#but it's not hard to build upon canon without directly contradicting the characterization that Is there#shallow doesn't feel like the right term. gosho just has a very particular way of writing characters that can be very frustrating#if i had to describe it it's like. he wants them to be taken seriously but refuses to mold the narrative in such a way that could allow it#it feels plot driven but in a way that takes away agency from the characters. plot driven to a fault but also the plot is only allowed to#progress sometimes.#anyways ironically despite having just talked about the issues with the series i genuinely do love it and find it sad that a lot of the#fanbase seems more in love with the version of it in their head than the show itself. i think we should do both actually#Ah well. i cannot speak that much as the guy obsessed with a (mostly) non canon friendship and ginzou's nonexistent history
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Ep 27 was all plot and no ship. In fact none of my favorite characters except Jiang Li herself appeared in it - it was devoid of the Duke, his sidekicks, Shen Yurong, Princess Wanning, any of the Yes and except for a few secondsâ appearance devoid of Jiang Jingrui.
Still it definitely moved the plot forward - namely the plot of the serpentsâ nest that is the Jiangs. Because the grievances were not suffered by our protag but the original Jiang Li and any connections of love or blood were also not hers but the original Liâs, sheâs able to be clear headed and not really emotionally involved except insofar as she feels bad for injustice and sheâs gonna need that because stepmom has lost the few restraints she had and the rest of the family is useless.
I found this ep humanized both Ruoyao and stepmom for me. I found it so tragic that Ruoyao has finally stopped stepping out of her motherâs monstrous, smothering shadow (her motherâs love always looked controlling and conditional but this ep shows just how downright abusive it was and how Ruoyao had so little chance) only to have her agency taken away from her by mommy on the most basic level. A woman who would poison her own child to get rid of a stepdaughter should not be called a mother in any sense.
I hope Ruoyao gets some sort of a happy ending and a way to find out who she actually is but I doubt that since the drama very clearly implied in this ep she is not a Jiang but is a child of adultery between stepmom and diviner. Papa Jiang is not much of a father even to his blood (he just goes with whatever the woman he is currently sleeping with likes) but the moment he discovers sheâs not his, that nunnery is gonna be best case scenario for Ruoyao. Not every family can be the Fans from JoL or the Xiaos from Nirvana in Fire 2.
Stepmom? What a horror show but the drama humanized her (while showing she shouldnât be allowed to run around at all.) All the woman wanted at the start was to run off with that painter and live in obscure bliss (Ruoyaoâs desire to run with worthless ex-fiance is quite reminiscent of that - like mother like daughter - tho at least Momâs boo genuinely loved her.) But daddy prevented it and was going to marry her off to some sort of mental defective with a family that wanted that dude to have a child (and in that society that marriage is pretty much life of horror) unless she found herself another match and was all âwhy donât you off Papa Jiangâs wife, sheâs sick anywayâ - and not excusing stepmom being a murderer but itâs like Shen Yurong - when all your choices are bad choices you are way more likely to do bad things to survive. In some other alternate universe, she married that painter who never became a diviner and is living a placidly virtuous existence.
Honestly, the moment she killed a friend to escape a hellish marriage it was the end for her - she sent Jiang Li away because of the whole âI murdered your mom canât have you find out or just look at youâ (and daddy blames her for soft heartedness in not killing her!!!) and the other kid was an accident - itâs basically she started out as a villain out of perceived necessity but then she had to continue and got worse and worse. The journey of 1000 miles begins with a single step, indeed.
I found it poignant she ultimately wasnât able to maim monster daddy as requested by diviner. Not so poignant that sheâs apparently repeating the way she was parented in the way sheâs parenting her daughter despite knowing firsthand what thatâs like. (But I wonder how much her obsession with getting Ruoyao the best marriage, the nicest reputation (no showing in public at age x), the best womanly skills (zither) is driven by her forever remembered terror of being a woman with no power and no options and no good marriage prospects.)
Even that scarred cousin who married the abuser got a little bit of interest from me - the way she tells his paralyzed body that even tho he beat her so badly she will take excellent care of him and the sheer terror in his eyes was great. Go girl!!!!
Still, hope next ep brings back the Duke and Co. (Jiang Li sent away the guard the Duke had on a mission for her and girl - bad life choice - guard had a big point in that he was there for her protection. And now diviner is coming and there is no guard. I guess sheâs so bad at listening to instructions, the Duke will have to move in with her himself to make sure she does what he wants. What a hardship đ)
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Iâve made this post before about Katara, but since Iâve seen the topic come up about Azula lately, I donât think people understand what agency means in terms of fictional characters. Because of course fictional characters do not have agency in the way that real people do, because they do not exist and their actions are controlled by the narrative. But when we talk about a fictional character having agency, we mean this: do her actions affect the plot? And the answer is yes. Azula actually drives a large portion of the plot in season two and three, more than even Ozai, because Ozai mostly drives the plot in that he is the big bad, but heâs interchangeable with the Fire Nation itself in that way. So when people try to argue that the things Azula did to drive the action in the story were actually Ozaiâs actions because he ordered her to and she really didnât want to, honest, they are robbing Azula of her agency and also taking away what makes her an interesting character to begin with.
And since agency with fictional characters is less about choice, we can also talk about how Azula is a victim of her father and STILL has agency because her actions have an affect on the plot, even when she IS acting on Ozaiâs orders. But even if we were to look at the question of whether she has agency in terms of choice, Azula actually does make choices several times in the narrative that have major outcomes on the plot, many of which exist outside of Ozaiâs orders. She has the agency to choose whether to bring her brother back as a prisoner or an ally, for one, and the confidence - unlike Zuko - that she will be received kindly no matter what choice she makes. She also outright lies to Ozai about killing the Avatar in a way that forces Zuko into an uncomfortable and dangerous position and which gives her agency over her brother.
If you remove Azula from the narrative altogether, a large portion of the plot would be missing or wouldnât make sense. Whereas for the most part, Ozai could be replaced with Sozin or even Zhao as the big bad.
The other thing we look at when we look at whether a fictional character has agency is: do her actions make sense within the scope of her established character and the plot? Do her choices make sense from a Watsonian perspective? Do they fit with her established character? And, I mean, Azulaâs choices donât fit that IF you pretend that her established characters isnât that of someone who is cruel and manipulative. But every negative action that Iâve seen people attempt to explain away - the doll, smiling at her brother being burned, trying to kill Iroh, trying to kill Zuko, lying about Zuko killing Aang - does have a narrative explanation that fits with Azulaâs established character. We are explicitly told why she makes those choices, and they feel like they come from the character, not that they were put there just to further the plot. ATLA is an extremely character-driven show, and itâs strange to pretend that Azula is somehow an exception to this when this is what makes her character popular in the first place.
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Hello! You recently posted a 11th doctor analysis/critique(?) post and I really want to post my point of view and such and maybe start a sort of discussion? You obviously wouldn't have to respond! I don't even know if I'd respond, I'm not good with conversations. I just kinda want to get your permission I guess, because I really don't mean what I'd write as hate and maybe you just made this as a sort of vent/your opinion post and don't actually want anyone to discuss it.
Here's the post in question btw.
Hey, I totally wouldn't mind you responding and I would love to see your opinion (especially since you were so polite about it) but I'm going to be completely honest: my opinions on Eleven's arc have already changed somewhat since I wrote it! I've been reading a lot of analysis of his era recently and I've been getting a better overall view of his arc all the way through the end of it entirely. Though I still agree with some of the points that I made regarding kindness v. cruelty and agency, I feel like they only apply to the Pond era specifically, and even then it's a bit more nuanced than I wrote it, more about the framing of the end of their arc by the writers rather than choices by the characters themselves. Taking into consideration his entire arc/era I think softens the thematic arc I wrote about, though once again framing in the Time of the Doctor kind of posing Eleven as this sort of god-like all-important figure gets a bit dialled up (though tbh regeneration episodes tend to be a bit sloppy on that front in general, and I think my problem with the Time of the Doctor has less to do with framing/these themes specifically and more to do with the fact that we don't really get any emotional investment in the town of Christmas from a character point of view making it feel a bit less impactful from a character-driven v. plot-driven writing lens).
Still, even with my (personal, subjective) critiques of the Time of the Doctor and the Day of the Doctor from a writing point of view, I do have to say that rewatching them, they posit Eleven where I wanted to see him all along: as a Doctor driven by kindness. As a Doctor who looks at his trauma and his past and says "no more." No one else will get hurt by what happened.
I still don't like Angels Take Manhattan and I still really, really hate how the River Song arc played out in A Good Man Goes to War/Let's Kill Hitler (I think I might have made a post about it but I can't quite remember) and I personally think that a better ending for the Ponds would have been for them to decide to stop travelling with the Doctor on their own for character arc reasons, but I think that by the end of Eleven's era, we get to see the Doctor from the Beast Below. We get to see all that pain and misery and loneliness, and it just made him kind. I think even if I have some questions about the exact details of how it plays out, we get a return to theme. We get an Eleven that sacrifices his life for someone else. We get The Doctor, a man who comes to heal.
I'm sorry if this came out a bit rambling; I think that reflects the more nuanced, messy opinion I have on Eleven's era now. And I think that as I've grown older and read more critiques and analysises of every era of Doctor Who, that's how I've begun to feel about every era of the show. Season 3 might be my favorite season of the show, but you cannot deny the antiblack undertones of the writing of both Mickey and Martha (despite how much I love their arcs). While I still am not a fan of the way that the narrative takes agency away from Amy and River in Season 6 (and the way that the narrative framing posits River Song and Clara as being "born to save/kill the Doctor"), I now really, really love the Pandorica Opens/Big Bang as well as several other episodes of Eleven's era that gave me a sour taste in my mouth as a teenager. I like Season 8 Clara's arc more than I used to, especially when it made me quit watching back in the day (even if I think that Danny deserves better). I think that Heaven Sent/Hell Bent is an amazing finale, my third favorite of the show (proving an old opinion that I tend to dislike Moffat finales wrong), but I don't think that Season 9 is the strongest lead-up for it. Season 10 is my third favorite season of the show (though I do question the fact that both of Moffat's black companions get turned into Cybermen). I honestly think that many episodes of Thirteen's era are well-written (Demons of the Punjab, the Witchfinders, and Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror are classic episodes of all time for me) or were, like, one tweak away from brilliance and that though there are a few stinkers (Kerblam, I hate you with a burning passion) every showrunner has a few stinkers under their belt (Girl in the Fireplace, Let's Kill Hitler, Kill the Moon, for example). I even think the Timeless Child is not as bad as I think it once was (I think the Cybermasters might actually be the worst part of that episode). I think that the 50th anniversary and the Power of the Doctor are better celebrations of the show than the 60th anniversary specials.
And none of that I would have thought a couple of months ago, much less nine years ago when I first quit the show. But that's the value of time and thought; you gain more nuance if you're willing to think about something long and hard enough.
Once again, I'm so sorry for rambling; I've been trying to find a way to put all of these messy thoughts together for awhile now and your ask gave me the place to do so. Thank you for that.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the matter, though! Please feel free to start a dialogue/write your own response/etc.
#eleventh doctor#steven moffat#chris chibnall#twelfth doctor#thirteenth doctor#meta#analysis#angels take manhattan#time of the doctor#amy pond#river song#nuance is part of growing up#doctor who#the beast below#my asks
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My blurp opinion on Higurashi GouSotsu/Meguri
I've been inspired to write this because there were so many interesting opinions/takes/analysis on both Meguri and Sotsu. Satoko, being one of my favorite characters since the release of Sotsu, really took my interest in time loopers by storm.
I've always liked the very idea of characters trudging the fine line between good and evil, and time loopers tend to exemplify that.
Rika was very cynical in a lot of media, giving up on her friends almost immediately. All except for one person: Satoko. She could only keep going because of Satoko.
However, the exact opposite is true. Rika is, to me, a crutch for Satoko. She became Satoko's curse. Because of Rika, Satoko achieved a sort of twisted divine enlightenment by finding herself in the Sea of Fragments.
I'm not saying Rika did this on purpose, far from it, but by making Satoko her emotional support, she had attracted otherworldly forces to Satoko.
Now, the biggest difference to me between Meguri and Sotsu Satoko are the feelings behind each of her loops.
Sotsu Satoko's loops always felt angry. When she first infected Rena, she was spitting on her kindness.
Keiichi trusting Rena was Satoko's trap. Each of these loops felt like Satoko mocking and condemning each of her club members.
Something that really stood out to me was when Keiichi volunteered to be Satoko's new 'big brother'. The moment Satoko led him to her uncle's death scene was the moment I felt Satoko had essentially rejected Keiichi completely.
Now this is all conjecture, but I thought, "Satoko must be thinking, 'Who do you think you are, Keiichi-san? You can never take my big brother's place'."
Each of Sotsu Satoko's loops felt raw and angry. I loved how you could feel the emotion behind her madness.
Now, Meguri had a lot more introduction to each character. It gave each character more time rather than just giving Rika and Satoko the spotlight. This is a good thing for me.
It also tightened up a lot of loose plot points, such as the idea behind there being an original Rika in Angel Mort being left behind, or how quick Satoko was to turn evil in Eua's loops (Sotsu version). I suppose, in a way, it made Satoko more sympathetic.
However, Meguri also took away her agency. Her loops in Meguri were not driven by anger and bitterness. They were driven by hopelessness, thus making some of the Gou loops not make much sense (by an emotional perspective).
The whole uncle arc was glossed over horribly by Meguri. I know a lot of people despise the idea of reformation for Teppei. However, I think the very idea of Satoko having an actual family would be very good for her. I've made amends with people who have hurt me very very badly (I won't go into reasons because I rather not), so my perspective on this is a little different.
Because Satoko wasn't 'bitter' in Meguri, the whole uncle arc fell flat to me. I felt like Tomato-sensei didn't want to stick around with that arc for very long.
Meguri and Sotsu have great and bad points.
Sotsu had a fantastic way of showing Satoko's emotions. It showed that she's just so damn bitter about everything. Sotsu Satoko had agency that she never did in the previous arcs. Its bad points were that the club members (and every character not named Rika or Satoko) were simply relegated to side characters that have no real substance.
Meguri is pretty much the opposite. It included the club members very well. Though some other characters need a bit more fleshing out in the manga. However, it took away what I thought made Sotsu Satoko special - her emotional distress, hate, and anger towards the world, her friends, Hinamizawa, Rika, etc.
Sotsutoko is moved through anger.
Meguritoko is moved through hopelessness.
I think that Tomato should have given each of Meguritoko's loops the theme of hopelessness (sorry I keep repeating that word) in the same way Sotsutoko's loops have the theme of rage, rather than keeping manga Gou a near 1:1 copy of the anime Gou.
Those are just my thoughts. You can agree or disagree. I just like reading analysis of characters and wanted to share this for once.
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Okay this is two of my autism Special interests so I am gonna go ham.
Final Fantasy: collecting the 4 Crystals to beat Chaos provides a basic and solid structure. However, anything to do with time travel is generally w bad idea. Even a one way trip to the past can make your party feel like they missed on a reward. However memorable NPCs abound.
4/5 stars
Final Fantasy II: Beating up the evil empire is a classic, but orphan runaways are below general D&D power level, making the start less believable. Also making players remember passwords seems more difficult in an analog setting. Also more powerful temporary allies reeks of DmPC and may effectively take away player agency.
2/5 stars
Final Fantasy III: Orphan start where everyone knows each other before immediately powered up by Crystals works great to ubite the party and become appropriate power level. Having other NOC groups Act as parties serves to make the setting more immersive. And a light and dark world? Cloud of Darkness? Delightful.
5/5 stars
Final Fantasy IV: Fighting the bad empire but giving players a home in the empire they destroy? One guy gets mind controlled out of jealous love? Going to the moon? If your players are willing to have a non linear party and split for the sake of Story this would have all the emotional highs and lows.
6/5 stars
Final Fantasy V: Honestly feels the most like a D&D campaign adapted to video game. Tye party's reason for joining initially and staying together is tenuous but accepted for the sake of the game. The Galuf/Krile thing feels like a way to keep a player from falling behind. Surprise backstory princess? However I don't think this would work without being player driven and as such would not recommend to run.
3/5 stars
Final Fantasy VI: Too many players is a common way to make sure nobody has fun. Maybe a west marches world toaccoujt for players going in and out. Needs a lot of streamlining to be for a contiguous party's campaign.
2/5 stars
Final Fantasy VII: a contiguous party, unified start, easy motivation, with room for player backstory expression. Unfortunately trying to go high tech in D&D is difficult. Try a different system.
4/5 stars
Final Fantasy VIII: working as mercenaries in the same group sounds unifying but can take away player agency. Rinoa/Squall main character linkage/sorcerer nonsense not cohesive to balanced party. Same high tech issues. But also you go to the moooon
3/5 stars
Final Fantasy IX: a charming world with many threats to face. However players generally charge face first into threats. Mist? Space? Whatever Kuja has going on? They would die to Beatrix or feel babied.
3/5 stars
Final Fantasy X: The concept of summoner's pilgrimage creates an inherent player imbalance with all of the players being subservient to 1. Tidus gets isekai'd specifically to fix this but that just shifts which one player controls everybody else's plot. Yevon and it's control and rules would limit player agency. Sin is a cool threat, but maybe fight a different way
2/5 stars
This is limited to the first ten entries because those are the ones I've played and also I can only include ten options.
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The issue with Catraâs redemption arc isnât anything to do with challenging âredemption through sufferingâ, itâs that the writing is bad and constantly asserts things about Catraâs character development that the script doesnât back up.
Iâm not just talking about how Catra saying she was sorry in the second episode of the goddamn show, written by the showrunner, plainly didnât mean anything to her or anyone else, although do bear that in mind just as an example of how S5 is built on clumsy retcons; Iâm talking about the whole structure.
For seasons 1-4 and the early parts of S5, Catra is predominantly defined by her selfishness. It is the primary driver of her villainy. It is what makes her so awful to be around. It is the source of her toxicity, her resentment, her possessiveness, her cruelty and her spite.
The âCorridorsâ flashback portrays her friendship with Adora as toxic and one-sided. She punishes Adora for having a desire for other friends, acts conciliatory and nice when it looks like sheâs getting what she wants, and goes right back into Tantrum Mode when Adora proposes a compromise; the only acceptable outcome to Catra is that she gets what she wants.
The plot of âWhite Outâ has her gloating about finally having Adora under her control. Again, thereâs no compromise; Catra has to get exactly what she wants, and if that requires taking away Adoraâs agency, well, fuck Adora. (Also, this is possibly the biggest, reddest red flag in childrenâs media, so jot that down.)
Then thereâs season 3, where she decides that if Adora has once again gotten something Catra wants, that means Adora has to suffer no matter the cost. Catraâs so caught up in her own personal pain that she has to inflict it on Adora, and who gives a shit about anyone who suffers on the way?
And then thereâs Scorpia...look, you get the idea. This is a pattern with S1-S4 Catra. She demands trust, loyalty and support from Scorpia and Hordak while generally refusing to extend any of those herself; she refuses to accept responsibility for her actions and treats her personal pain as though it justifies any cruelty she wishes to undertake; she routinely demands that Adora put Catraâs wants over the needs of others, from the opening two-parter to the season 3 disaster. Even her one good deed towards Adora has selfish overtones, because while sheâs helping Adora, sheâs also getting rid of a rival; notably, her first qualm with the plan to drag Adora kicking and screaming back to the Horde came when she learned that it would cost her the promotion to Force Captain. There are a couple of moments where she does genuinely selfless things, but the shitty, entitled, possessive selfishness is the main driver of the plot.
And this isnât, in and of itself, a problem! You could get a genuinely compelling arc out of having Catra confront her selfishness and entitlement and genuinely learn that itâs not all about her.
Unfortunately S5 just kind of says it did that and never actually backs it up. S5 Catra, as written in the actual script, is just as selfish as she always was, the narrative has just stopped caring.
She saves Glimmer not because sheâs realised any genuine similarity between them or come to view Glimmer as a friend despite their earlier enmity, but because Glimmer is a convenient token to get something Catra wants.
She spends âTaking Controlâ sulking that her actions might have consequences in the form of the people sheâs hurt being allowed to be upset over that. Her apologies end up so vague and so disconnected from anything sheâs actually learned that they ring hollow; they feel like attempts to paper over her actions rather than expressions of genuine sorrow. Wanting to be forgiven isnât the same thing as genuinely expressing regret, and the showâs attempts to conflate them donât do this arc any favours.
This is a big, persistent and damning issue, because she still isnât taking responsibility for her actions. She still blames Adora for fights in which she herself was the aggressor (âthat never stopped you beforeâ) and still frames her repeated rejections of Adoraâs offers of help and support as Adora âabandoningâ her, right up to the series finale. Very little of the harm sheâs caused is ever substantively addressed beyond Frosta decking her on general principles and Perfuma being very briefly salty that Catra treated Scorpia like shit.
This problem lasts right up to the finale. When Adora takes the Failsafe, none of Catraâs tantrum feels like itâs got anything to do with Adoraâs value as a person independent of what others want from her: she starts out mad that Adora âchoseâ Shadow Weaver over her, when in fact what Adoraâs done is taken the best option from a list of bad options, and eventually admits to Melog that sheâs upset Adora doesnât âwantâ Catra the way Catra wants Adora. The main ways Catra presents this centre Catraâs own wants first and foremost: she wants Adora to âchooseâ her over theoretically Shadow Weaver but practically everyone on Etheria, she wants Adora to give her the relationship she wants. Itâs still all about her.
This tells us that Catra has learned nothing. Her tantrum at the end of S5 is exactly the same as her tantrum in âThe Sword, Part 2âł: Adora has prioritised the lives of innocents over Catraâs wants, and Catra views that as a personal affront. Her character arc has been a parabola thatâs left her right where she was at the start, except that sheâs now willing to let Adora have other friends so long as those friends are also her friends. (Including the one whose mother is dead because of Catraâs selfish, resentment-driven apocalypse tantrum in S3, which is the elephant in the room that S5 really, really does not want to address.)
Then the narrative tries for the âconscience makes you go backâ moment...and fucks it up. Catra doesnât go back because sheâs finally grasped that Adora is a person with her own intrinsic value and deserves to live for her own sake. Catra goes back for one last attempt to get what she wants. She goes back to whitewash her history of controlling, resentful possessiveness as love in the hope that Adora will stay alive for the sake of Catraâs personal desires.
Having Catra go back just in the hope of getting Adora to go out with her ruins both charactersâ arcs: it undermines Catraâs arc because sheâs gone five seasons without grasping that Adora is a person with autonomy, agency and inner worth, and it undermines Adoraâs because after being told that sheâs worth more than what she can give to other people, sheâs saved by Catraâs demand that Adora give her something.
Frankly, Catraâs redemption arc would have meant a lot more if at some point during it she had genuinely seemed to acknowledge that Adora has worth independent of what Catra wants from her. If instead of whining âyou hate me nowâ sheâd accepted that Adora has a right to work through her emotions in her own time and is under no obligation to forgive Catra just because of one Glimmer-shaped bribe. If sheâd genuinely acknowledged the harm sheâd caused to both the Princess Alliance and the innocent people of Etheria, instead of cracking jokes about it. If sheâd accepted the idea that Adora didnât love her back and tried to save her anyway.
If sheâd gotten actual compelling character growth, and not just been fast-tracked through a badly paced redemption arc in order to fill out a shipping grid.
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What's the most common misconception you hear about c!tommy?
Hey! Really interesting question, cheers. Iâd say that thereâs quite a few misconceptions floating around: that he never apologises, that he hasnât developed, that his exile was his fault, that heâs the main source of conflict on the server, that all he does is steal, and plenty of other stuff.
But the one I probably hear most is how Tommy supposedly values music discs over people.
This one is such a mess of misconceptions. Iâve even heard it said that Doomsday happened because Tommy cared about his discs too much and he was wrong because you shouldnât value items over human lives. I hate this one because it misunderstands Tommy enough so you can dismiss him because its such a weak position.Â
Anyway, I understand why its so messy. Tommy throughout season 2 is frequently in a state of uncertainty and is being driven by emotions and isnât thinking clearly after so much suffering. He says a lot of stuff he doesnât mean and is very suggestible. Most of his talking about the discs is done when heâs lonely and thinks his friends donât care for him anymore, that theyâre better off without him.
Now, letâs be clear: music discs are something Tommyâs character loves. His happiness every time he listens to one feels very genuine. Heâs had so many emotional moments listening to his discs with others and even considers his bench his happy space. He likes them and invites others to listen with him. These items hold no intrinsic value, theyâre of no worth to anyone else besides how much they mean to Tommy. The only reason to take them is to try to control him specifically. Thatâs the original reason Dream took them in the original disc war - to punish Tommy after he caused some trouble.Â
And the original disc war was fun for Tommy. He found the battle to be exciting and enjoyed trying to outplay Dream with his best friend Tubbo and anyone he could get on his side. It was like a fun game to him. One that, while chaotic, no one really got hurt from at all - the only one who really suffered was Tommy himself, who put stuff on the line for it and had his whole base dug up. (And Tubbo who got dragged in and lost items, but he was initially a very willing partner who found the conflict fun too.)Â
And then we have Dream, who traded away LâManburgâs independence for Tommyâs discs, an interesting decision which meant only Tommy really paid the price that day. Everyone remarked on how unusually selfless it was of Tommy. That day was a victory for everyone else, but bittersweet for him. Wilbur consoled him, saying they could get them back and then theyâd have even more history and sentimental value attached to them, having been what paid for LâManburgâs freedom. Tommy was encouraged and so the game continued.
Dream over this time became not just Tommyâs enemy, but his friend. They had fights and conflicts but it was more like a fun game. As they also did stuff like make a church together. Eventually Tommy managed to steal Mellohi back from Dream while Skeppy acquired Cat. At the elections, Tommy gives Mellohi to Wilbur who gives it back again when theyâre banished. Months pass and they finally win back LâManberg and its a wonderful day (until it goes wrong) but Tommyâs not done with his disc war.Â
This disc war was always a personal thing for Tommy, heâs never wanted others to be dragged in and hurt by it. He kind of takes Tubbo for granted, but Tubboâs also always been his partner in crime and Tommy enjoys having a war he can fight alongside his best friend - he and Tubbo against Dream. Dream at this point is still seen as a friendly enemy, in spite of choosing Schlatt and helping Wilbur blow up LâManberg. Anyway, he rejects Presidency, giving it to Wilbur because he trusts him and also wants to focus on his personal battles after so long ignoring it. He doesnât want others to be dragged in or for his interests to be divided. Heâs leaving LâManburg in safe hands he can trust. Thatâs season 1 of the SMP, but season 2 is where things get messier.
After the war, Tommy hears that Tubbo had been suspicious that Tommy mightâve been the traitor. In order to show that he trusts him, Tommy gives Tubbo Mellohi. Itâs not just a disc now, its a sign of trust, a sign of their bond - at least in Tommyâs eyes.
Then Dream builds obsidian walls around LâManburg and we first see Tommy showing that bit of selfishness. He states that heâd wanted to step away, that LâManburg wasnât his priority anymore. That heâd left it in safe hands so he could focus on the discs. But it doesnât matter what Tommy intended. Dream is targeting him and is dragging the rest of LâManburg into it by threatening to seal them in obsidian forever if they donât comply. Tommy and Tubbo do have a disagreement here, but its not actually so much about the discs.Â
-Tommy believes that fighting Dream is the superior option, if they ask for help from others in the server - because what heâs doing isnât right - then they could defeat him, show him that he couldnât just push them around.Â
-Tubbo feels like that would get them killed and he doesnât want to risk their lives. It would be better to appease Dream for now and secretly plot how to take him down later but Tommyâs being too hotheaded.Â
Tommy brings up the disc to state how he trusts Tubbo and would consider being exiled a betrayal but Tubbo reminds him that theyâre just discs and thereâs more on the line and Tommy needs to be more cooperative. Anyway, Tommyâs hurt by Tubbo exiling him and think its a sign that he doesnât care about him anymore. Tubbo meanwhile found it difficult to do but felt like there was no other option but did still care about Tommy. Tubbo would later come to regret doing it while Tommy would later say that it was the right choice when they finally actually talk.Â
The discs here are kind of a symbol but Tommy doesnât really value them over others, heâs being a little selfish for sure but that is mostly a result of being treated unfairly by Dream and feeling attacked and ganged up on by his friends, not seeing how they were trying to help him. Dreamâs the one to blame here. At worst, Tommyâs being irresponsible in thinking he can just step away from LâManburg - he didnât value the discs over it, he just wanted to fight a personal battle without LâManburg being involved for once. But too many things do matter to him and Dream realised he could attack Tommy through his friends. Its also why Tommy says he didnât want Tubbo to be President, because he wanted him to be free to help him in his personal war too. There were some issues in their friendship that for sure got exploited and blown out of proportion.
So post-exile. Tommy is rather confused. Heâs decided he doesnât want to die and that Dream wasnât really his friend, but he still feels abandoned by all his other friends. He still believes they didnât really care about him after his failed beach party and everything else. And his feelings on Dream are mixed because he knows logically he should hate him but emotionally he still feels like heâs his friend.
Tommy at this point, begins clinging to the discs as some sort of tangible goal while feeling so lonely and abandoned. He has no real sense of agency and really wants Technoblade to give him guidance. Technoblade however wants to destroy LâManburg and reaffirms his thoughts that Tubbo doesnt really care about him. Tommy is still...kinda(?) clear that he doesnât want LâManburg to be destroyed but is willing to compromise on minor terrorism. His remaining belief in LâManburg is being eroded. You can see in his trips into LâManburg he is rather unaware of the extent of his actions. Heâs suffered and now feels right in lashing out. It seems to be the start of a villain arc even. Right at this point, the discs make more sense than people so they are his goal. And yet even in the midst of his uncertainty, he says the one Tubbo has is safe, he wants to get the one Dream has.Â
The discs are Tommyâs way of saying he wants to fight Dream. Itâs not really about the discs anymore, Dream went way too far with the exile and now Tommy wants to stop him and find it easiest to frame it as going after his music disc.
Then the festival. Tommy finally confronts Tubbo and sees him about to give his disc to Dream. Itâs his worst fears confirmed, that Tubbo doesnât really care about him and that heâs on Dreamâs side. They fight and Tommy finally says the line âthe discs were worth more than you ever were!â
And he regrets it immediately. The statement rang false. They were just discs and Tubbo was his best friend. He immediately tells Tubbo to give up the disc and changes sides then and there. The discs were not more important than people. He was being selfish. And he also remembered how much he cared about LâManburg and didnât want it to be blown up no matter what heâd agreed to the day before. He wants to fight for it, choosing his friends once and for all.Â
In his argument with Techno on Doomsday, he does bring up his discs and words it kind of awkwardly. He tries to explain that ânothing had been taken from you, while the discs were stolen from meâ Tommy believes that Techno is destroying something people loved when he couldâve just walked away, he wasnât fighting for something he loved like Tommy in his wars. Thatâs what heâs trying to get at, not that music discs are more important than people. Tommy doesnât actually believe that and prefers wars that donât hurt others, as the disc wars was once supposed to be before Dream brought in everyone else. Even saying that, Tommy admits heâd messed up so many times in chasing the discs. That he was wrong.
Tommy talks about going after the discs again but at this point it really means taking down Dream. Dream had expressed that he would not stop, he enjoyed their âgameâ too much. Tommy has nothing left to lose as far as heâs concerned and needs to take down Dream for everything heâd done.Â
During the disc saga finale, again Tommy always chooses Tubbo first. Thereâs this one moment where he has Mellohi and could run away forever but he stops and gives it up along with all their items before their taken to the vault and almost forced to watch Tubbo die while he gets thrown in prison forever. But he chooses Tubbo. He always does.Â
Okay, summary over. I hope that better explains why I dislike the misconception that Tommy chooses his discs over people. He doesnât really. Itâs used to discredit him way too much, I feel. Itâs only at his lowest, after being tormented in exile that he even gets close to that position and thatâs when heâs on the bring of choosing a dark path and becoming what he hates. At the festival, he rejects that path.
Now that he has his discs, he hasnât started trouble with them once. Theyâre safe and he can bring them out to listen to when heâs feeling low, not hurting anyone. Theyâre just something he loves and its okay to have attachments.Â
#dream smp#tommyinnit#meta#analysis#replies#aah sorry for the long post#i got carried away#ilike to correct misconceptions#dreamsmp#yeah this is all pretty much tommy's perspective so yeah it is biased#exile arc#but thanks for the ask
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Dead Apple Light Novel
Recently, I decided to buy LN 5, Dead Apple, purely because Iâm a sucker for all of BSDâs light novels, so this post will revolve around what I took away from this novel.Â
Dead Apple is Canon
Since the story jumps around in the timeline a lot, I had originally thought that Dead Apple took place outside of canon (especially with Atsushiâs flashback).Â
However, a particular part of Asagiriâs afterword stuck out to me:
Now, allow me a moment to discuss some of the particulars of Dead Apple. Chronologically, the story takes place after the second season of the anime â in other words, after the war with the Guild, which puts Dead Apple somewhere between the ninth and tenth volumes of the manga.Â
The novel also ended up affecting the main story in numerous ways, and Iâm sure this new experience will continue to influence my future work as well.
Itâs not unusual for a light novel to insert itself into the main timeline (see 55 Minutes which takes place in the 10th volume), but itâs nice to have confirmation that the same applies to Dead Apple.Â
Of course, just because a work isnât canon compliant (see BEAST), doesnât mean that it has no potential for further analysis or it doesnât bring any added complexity to the main plot. Regardless, this post serves as somewhat of a precursor to my other posts concerning Dead Apple since I have a tendency to talk about it a lot, and Iâd like to establish a basis for a lot of my posts.Â
Differences between the Movie and Light Novel
In the afterword of the light novel, Hiro Iwahata (the author of this LN) said:
âFurthermore, I worked on this book under Asagiriâs supervision, meaning there are several lines in certain scenes that differ from the movie. It might even be fun comparing the two! Nothing would make me happier than the fans enjoying this novel alongside the movie.â
As per Iwahataâs request, I went into the light novel, looking for differences between it and the movie. However, the novel is surprisingly, almost identical to the movie (maybe not surprising considering it is a âmovie novelizationâ).
Because the differences are so miniscule, I believe they hold an even greater significance, since Asagiri must have wanted to change these specific details for a certain reason.Â
Some of the differences I talk about might be unimportant, but I did my best to catch everything that was changed from the movie.
1. The movie doesnât mention SKK as a part of the Dragonâs Head Conflict, but the novel says, âSome fought under the alias Twin Dark.âÂ
This probably means that SKK became a pair either before the Dragonâs Head Conflict or during (although Iâm pretty sure that the âorganizationâ they destroyed over night was Shibusawaâs organization).
2. When Dazai says that he wouldâve continued killing people in the mafia if it werenât for Oda, Atsushi has little to no reaction in the movie; I would describe it as maybe a hesitant or concerned feeling.
In the novel, Atsushi has a more outward reaction.
ââHuh...?!â Atsushi was baffled. He had no idea whether that was true. What did Dazai mean by that? (...) The melancholy Atsushi felt from Dazai had disappeared, and Dazai continued to speak in his usual lighthearted manner.â
Not only does he react verbally, but the novel also adds an inner monologue (mainly for Atsushi) that canât be portrayed as well in movie format.Â
To me, this change highlights how Atsushi sees Dazai purely as a good person; he reacts in such a startled manner because he believes that Dazai is too good of a person to be in the mafia killing people (which we know Atsushi hates). This trend reoccurs throughout the story, of Atsushi turning a blind eye to Dazaiâs âbad side.â
3. This one isnât at all the movieâs fault, but the novel gives a lot more clues as to what the âdead appleâ and the dagger in the apple motif represents.
The first time it appears is when Kunikida and Tanizaki meet the Special Divisionâs agent, but they find out that heâs already dead.
âIt [the apple] was, without a doubt, a simple fruit... save for the fact that there was a knife sticking out of it as if to condemn the taste of sin. A blade had been driven into the symbol of original sin. A dreary, ominous aura, oozed from the ripe fruit like venom.Â
Throughout the novel, it seems to associate the âdead appleâ motif with Fyodor pretty strongly, especially since this paragraph ties in Fyodorâs ideals nicely with the symbolism of the apple and dagger.
The apple represents sin, the very first sin â which you could interpret as sin at its purest â while the dagger represents the condemning of such sin. However, the apple can also potentially symbolize life, while the dagger stabbing into life can mean death.Â
Fyodorâs ideals revolve around âremoving the sinâ of ability users (represented by an apple in this case) but he does so through manipulation. The dagger is associated with stealth and deception, which is fitting with what Fyodor does to âremove the sinâ of ability users.
However, heâs also taking the lives of ability users in this process, hence stabbing the apple, coincidentally committing another sin in his attempt to relinquish all sin.
4. In the âSnow Whiteâ Oda and Dazai flashback, everything is identical to the movie (word for word), but there is some additional narration.
âIt was an alarming sight â Dazai sounded like he was in a trance. It was as if he was ignoring all this world had to offer while in pursuit of something else.â
Iâve talked about this particular scene before here, but the gist is that Dazai was discreetly talking about himself while referring to Snow White.Â
Dazai joined the mafia because he believed that the violence (or true human nature) would give him a reason to live, but we already know that this kind of thinking was flawed. Thus, this line most likely means that Dazai was ignoring all of the âgoodâ qualities of the world while pursuing a reason to live, which inevitably wouldnât work.Â
5. Right after the flashback, when Dazai takes the pill, the novel really sells the act of âDazai walking towards his death and going to the evil side.âÂ
Personally, this scene in the movie felt more open to interpretation after youâve seen the ending. You could say that Dazai took the antidote and said âBeing on the side that saves people is more beautiful,â because his plan is to continue living to save more people.Â
However, the novel throws away any possible double meaning with this paragraph:
âDazai then reached for the pill with his bandaged hand, neatly picked it up, and slowly brought it to his lips â just like Snow White and the sweet, poisoned apple. The venomous red-and-pure-white-pill disappeared inside his mouth.â
After Dazaiâs tangent on how Snow White couldâve committed suicide out of despair, the narration compares him directly to Snow White. With the added venomous pill stated outright, it only further cements the idea that Dazaiâs actually committing suicide here.
I donât particularly like this change, because it feels like this moment was set up entirely just to divert the audienceâs expectations, rather than it be a standalone scene that makes sense when considering the rest of the story. (It might not necessarily be a change, possibly just a rough translation from movie to novel).Â
6. When Atsushi wakes up from his nightmare, thereâs some additional inner monologue:
Everythingâs okay. Iâm not the same person I was when I lived at the orphanage. I have friends. I have a place where I belong â the Armed Detective Agency. Things are different now.
The anime (and in turn the movie) tends to downplay the effects of Atsushiâs trauma â probably due to the limitations of anime â but regardless the novel portrays it much better with how Atsushiâs trauma affects practically every aspect of his life.Â
7. I thought Fukuzawaâs ability only gave his subordinates control over their abilities, but the novel says:
âYukichi Fukuzawa and his skill, All Men are Equal, a peculiar ability that allowed him to suppress and control his subordinatesâ skills.â
Does this mean that Fukuzawa could control and suppress all of the agencyâs abilities? It could be a weird translation, but it seems oddly specific.
8. This detail isnât actually a novel exclusive, but it is an extremely small detail that I missed while watching the movie, so I figured I would add it here too.
âthe phantomâs notebook had the word Compromise written on the cover. A copy of himself that didnât follow ideals but made compromises was an abomination to Kunikida.â
Considering how abilities act as the shadow to every character in this story, this is a nice detail that shows how Kunikidaâs inner desire is to compromise, because carrying such heavy ideals is undoubtedly a burden. However, because he holds onto his ideals so strongly, it becomes his biggest weakness AND his biggest strength.
9. Thereâs a super small detail added to this scene with Dazai, Fyodor, and Shibusawa. When Dazai suggests that Shibusawa could be saved by an angel or a demon, the following exchange occurs:
âHmm... Maybe an angel?â Dazai picked up the skull on the table. âOr maybe a demon?â âItâs obvious what both of your true intentions are, if you ask me.â The third man mirthfully cackled and took the skull from Dazaiâs hand.
In the movie, Dazai doesnât pick up anything, so as a result Fyodor doesnât take anything from Dazai either.Â
Because Fyodor walked into the scene after Dazai suggested that an angel or demon would save Shibusawa, I strongly suspect that this was foreshadowing future events in which Fyodor does âsaveâ Shibusawa by giving him his memories back.
The novel adds more to this foreshadowing by having Dazai pick up the skull before itâs taken by Fyodor â essentially having Fyodor take the cards out of Dazaiâs hands and put them in his favor.Â
Itâs also worth pointing out that the skull is also the object that Fyodor uses to revive Shibusawa into a supernatural ghost of some sorts at the end of the story.
10. This may be just a difference in translations but in the movie, Shibusawa refers to Fyodor as âDemon Fyodor-kunâ, whereas in the novel Fyodor is called âFyodor the Conjurer.â (Ango uses the Conjurer title as well).
In western esotericism, a conjurer is a person who summons supernatural beings, like spirits, demons, or God.
This slightly changes the connotation of Fyodorâs title from a inhuman being of pure malicious intent to just a human who summons these otherworldly beings. This idea also aligns with Shibusawaâs revival, since heâs some sort of supernatural ghost that was âsummonedâ by Fyodor.Â
11. Skipping past the parts where Kyouka and Akutagawa regain their abilities, and Chuuya talks to Ango in the government facility, (since they have little to no changes between the movie and the novel) there is a somewhat significant detail changed in Draconia once again with Dazai and Fyodor.
In the novel, this glowing ball of energy from the movie is actually described as an apple:Â
The two lights melted into one and spun until they formed a juicy sphere. They had produced a single apple â a juicy, poisoned apple red as blood.
It birthed a skill â and an extremely powerful one at that â the ability to absorb. Every last crystal adorning Draconiaâs walls was sucked into the apple with intense force. Ten â a hundred â a thousand â two thousand â every last one was greedily devoured by the apple...
The apple swelled as it absorbed the numerous crystals until the red light became hotter than the surface of hell.
Since the âdead appleâ motif aligns with Fyodorâs character, we can assume that the apple is representative of sin, and sin is associated with abilities, as Fyodor believes.
This strange poisoned apple is made of abilities and has an ability (the ability to absorb), and it commits a sin (greed) in its devouring of other abilities; itâs also hotter than âhellâ, which is a very specific connection that leads me to this idea:
My theory is that a normal apple represents life, while a poisoned apple (or dead apple), indicative of a stained, impure life, represents sin. Fyodor believes abilities are akin to sin (what a clever rhyme), therefore all of their lives are sinful.
12. This is arguably the most insignificant change of this entire post, but I feel obligated to put it here regardless since it was different from the movie. When the Special Division detects the singularity of Shibusawaâs dragon form in the novel, it says:
âAbnormal values for singularity are increasing! Theyâre twice â no, 2.5 times higher than they were six years ago.â
In the movie, the number is five times higher instead.
Why did this number change? Is it significant? I honestly have no idea (Iâm surprised I even caught this), but itâs there and I had to document it anyways.Â
13. The novel adds this narration for Shibusawa when he gets his memories back and heâs in the orphanageâs room with Atsushi:
âShibusawa clearly recalled the events from six years ago. Fyodor had enticed him to go to the orphanage where he tortured a young Atsushi... until Atsushi fought back and killed him.â
Thereâs two things to take away from this: Fyodor had known Shibusawa for at least six years, and Fyodor had been planning the events of Dead Apple since at least six years ago.Â
I find it hard to believe that Fyodorâs plan was thwarted by Dazai, because of how Fyodor demonstrated his ability to plan ahead in the main series, but Iâm not sure what the long term effects of this plan could be. If Shibusawa succeeded, then it couldâve aligned with the DOAâs goals, but once again I donât think Fyodorâs plan was actually foiled.
14. Super minor once again, but right after Shibusawa gets revived, the last sentence of chapter 5 is,
âNobody would ever see the smile on Fyodorâs face.âÂ
Honestly, I think this was just added to create an ominous tone, but itâs a nice detail regardless.
15. As the red fog spreads across Yokohama, thereâs a good part of exposition that connects the âdead appleâ motif to Fyodor once again:
âAfter the red fog devoured the earth, the planet would undoubtedly look like a floating red apple from space. There would be no humans left on its surface, nor any signs they ever existed. It would be a true paradise, and with that, the Dead Apple would finally be complete. A dead planet covered in red fog â that was what Fyodor had planned and sought out.
Nothing other than death could wash away the original sin of man, so it was only fitting for the sin, which started with a fruit, to end with one as well.Â
Itâs pretty long, but I like the way this passage is written, more specifically the last part since it fits well with the sinful poisoned apple idea.
It also aligns with Fyodorâs ideals of creating a true paradise, free of ability users. However, if Fyodor had planned to have the Earth covered in fog, that could mean that his plan was actually stopped by Dazai and Atsushi in the end.
16. Shibusawa has a few additional lines of dialogue when he talks to Atsushi in their final fight.
âThe dragon and tiger... I see now why they are called rivals.â
The dragon and tiger have their roots in Chinese Buddhism, but to go further into that topic would make this already lengthy post even longer.
âDonât get the wrong idea, though. Iâm not blaming you for what happened.â
This line is a brief moment of weakness for Shibusawa, which is interesting in contrast to his strong will to kill Atsushi. Just as Atsushi learned to accept the past and the tigerâs ferocity, Shibusawa shares the same attitude by separating the blame from himself to just simply accepting the past for what happened.
17. In the aftermath of the last fight against Shibusawa, Atsushi and Kyouka meet up with Dazai.
Kyouka asks, âAre you sure this is what you wanted?â which prompts two different responses in the movie and novel respectively.
In the movie, Atsushi says, âJust as Shibusawa was able to forget that heâd been killed before, I think Dazai can put his past behind him again. But this is fine.â
In the novel, Atsushi says:
â... I could probably seal away this memory just like how Iâd forgotten Iâd killed him before. But... Iâm okay with this.â
I interpreted Kyoukaâs question in the movie to be questioning Dazaiâs loyalties, as he did betray everyone, and Atsushi responded in Dazaiâs defense because he trusts him.
However, the novel does change Atsushiâs response to focus on himself rather than Dazai, which in turn changes the implications of Kyoukaâs question.Â
Kyouka seems to be asking Atsushi whether he was okay with killing Shibusawa, and Atsushi responds by acknowledging that he did kill Shibusawa, and thatâs okay. (a very clear development from the beginning of the story when he believed it was unnecessary to kill anyone, and he didnât want to kill anyone)
18. In the epilogue, Ango talks about the underlying motivations behind the âDead Appleâ case. This change could be attributed to translation differences (like many others in this post), but the connotation does slightly differ from movie to novel.Â
In the movie, Ango says, âHow is a man like Shibusawa, so intelligent that others look like alien creatures to him, to act, to be destroyed, or to be saved?â
In the novel, Ango says:
âPerhaps the two of them [Dazai and Fyodor] just wanted to get a glimpse of someone like them... Perhaps they wanted to see what he would do and how he would meet his demise... or perhaps how he would be saved.â
The movie simply poses a broad question of what would happen to Shibusawa, a person alienated from the rest of society.Â
The novel changes this to focus on Dazai and Fyodorâs perspective â two irredeemable aliens from society just like Shibusawa â executing this grand scheme out of curiosity to see what would happen to someone of the likes of them, and if thereâs a possibility for redemption.
19. This is the final difference on this list, and itâs quite a large change. In Fyodorâs monologue at the very end of the story, he has a completely different tone from the movie to novel.
In the movie, Fyodor says, âBut in order to end this world, rife with crime and punishment, I do need that book.â
The novel says:Â
Glittering high-rises and stately brick buildings stood side by side in this port city with its countless citizens who struggled against crime and punishment. âI think Iâve taken a liking to this city myself..â Fyodor took a bite of the apple in his hand, and the juicy nectar ran down his delicate fingers. âYouâd all better be on your best behavior until next time.â
The reference to the book may have been removed for consistency with the main series, as the book is a part of the DOAâs plan (or more specifically Fukuchi).Â
It also seems like Fyodor has grown fond of the city, and no longer wants Yokohama to be destroyed, so itâs still possible that his plan deterred from what he had originally intended.
Beyond that, Iâm not entirely sure why crime and punishment was mentioned, or why thereâs such an ominous tone to his ending statement, but thatâs up to personal interpretation.Â
That concludes the long list of extremely specific and minor differences between the Dead Apple movie and light novel!Â
Overall, I would say itâs worth checking out the light novel if you donât have a strong grasp of the Dead Apple story, because it definitely presents the small intricacies of the plot in a more comprehensible way.Â
On a side note, the manga adaptation has a lot of noticeable differences from the movie and light novel, mostly with the addition of entirely new scenes (which you can read @buraihatranslationsâ â what a shameless self plug). I would highly recommend reading it as those extra scenes are very amusing, to say the least without giving any spoilers.
Honestly, this post was a lot longer than I intended, but I hope you enjoyed it regardless. Thank you for reading!
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If anyone wants to read a fanfic focusing on Alyaâs problems and feelings, centered around her as a person, I HIGHLY recommend âcan you keep a secret?â by euphorickiri.Â
It starts off looking like itâs mostly just gonna be interested in shipping Alyadrien (which it DOES do very effectively), with early chapters having a good portion of the plot be driven by Alya suspecting that Adrienâs Chat Noir and wanting to spend more time with him, find out more about him in order to become sure of it.
But even then, even as early as chapter 1, you get to see that thereâs more going in with Alya than youâd normally see in such a fic. That she canât get herself to post to the Ladyblog after the Lady Wifi business, that people at school are treating her differently after being akumatized, along with going over her current issues with her friends and family, things that are shown and develop more and more as the series goes on.
In chapter 1:
Nino was her closest friend besides Marinette. They bonded quickly over their mutual love for comic books and have only grown closer since then. Often when Alya felt like she couldnât talk to Marinette, Nino was always there to lend an ear. This was happening a lot more recently than she wanted to admit. She didnât know exactly what was going on, but Alya wasnât stupid. Marinette was hiding something from her. Something big. She showed up to school half-asleep most of the time and when asked to hang out she came up with every excuse in the book to avoid going. There were even certain times she would just disappear without telling anyone. It seemed like it was taking a huge toll on her and Alya didnât want to add to that burden. So she plastered a smile on her face for her best friend and supported her in any way she could. Still, she couldnât help but be suspicious about what was going on.
She hated how much Lady Wifi took over her life. She pretended not to see the dirty looks people sent her, ignoring how hurt she felt. Nino was right. They werenât themselves when they were akumatized. But that didnât mean everyone sympathized with akuma victims. And she was no exception. Even Chloe was wary around her now. Chloe . The most fearsome person at school. So Alya preferred not to talk about it at all. It was just something else she had to deal with.
She wasnât weak. She wasnât . She could handle herself.
And with chapter two, it starts laying the foundation of her family situation.
âWhat do you guys want?â Alya asked tiredly.
âBreakfast,â Ella replied. âCan you make chocolate chip pancakes again?â
Alya ran a hand over her face and looked over at her alarm clock, relieved she had a decent amount of time to get herself and her sisters ready for school. Her parents worked during the day so it became Alyaâs responsibility to look after the twins. Make sure they get to school, pick them up from school, feed them, dress them - everything. It could be draining, and as much as she loved her sisters, they were still kids who acted out and refused to cooperate at the worst times. But if she didnât look after them, no one else would. Her parents, especially her mom, were too engrossed in their work. The one time Nora did come home to visit, Ella and Etta didn't know who she was. Thatâs how long sheâs been gone.
So, this was Alyaâs burden to carry. Alone.
âYou guys have to eat something other than pancakes every morning,â Alya scolded, reaching for her phone. âIâll make oatmeal with some fruit instead.â
As the story goes on, Alyaâs family situation with her parents fighting and using her as a go-between while pretending everythingâs alright, with herself being her younger sistersâ rock, becomes a bigger part of the story and necessary background to the emotional struggle Alya goes through, informing a lot of her character and why her thought process is the way it is.
The rest of the day consisted of Alya trying to get Marinette to speak with occasional assistance from Nino and Adrien. Nothing worked. The only person able to get a reaction out of her was Juleka. The other teen waved passing their table during lunchtime and Marinette waved back. And as worried as she was, Alya couldnât help but be a little annoyed. There have been days where all Alya wanted to do was yell at anyone who dared to approach her. But she never took it out on Marinette or anyone else. But here they were, the situations revered, and Marinette wouldnât even look at her . What made Juleka the exception?
No one wants you.
Alya pushed her tray of food away, her appetite gone.
She almost pulled her hair out when Miss Bustier told everyone to sit with their partners during their last class of the day and Marinette bolted out of her seat. Alya tried to hide her irritation when she saw Marinette and Juleka talking out of the corner of her eye as if everything was normal.
âRemember your projects are due tomorrow! Iâm giving you the entire class period today to finish up,â Miss Bustier announced. âIâm very excited to see your presentations!â
Adrien slid into Marinetteâs empty seat. âWe need to find a couple more pictures for the poster but other than that weâre good.â
âI agree.â Alya glared when Marinette laughed at something Juleka said, not paying attention to his words. âWe should do that.â
Oh? So quick to replace me? She tensed up as her own words mocked her.
Marinette rested her head on Julekaâs shoulder. Donât worry, youâll always be my number 1 partner. Youâre irreplaceable.
Wrong. Youâre disposable .
Alyaâs feelings and emotions are validated by the narrative, even though she has the wrong idea about Marinette replacing her.Â
Lady Wifi plays a big role in the story as well, since sheâs not actually gone, and serves as a kind of embodiment of Alyaâs negative emotions and worst impulses, as well as a looming threat. The tension between her and Alya helps accentuate the emotional heart of the story.
Alya also gets to disagree and talk things out with Ladybug and Master Fu, when she doesnât agree on their handling of situations, though with them not being demonized in the process either.Â
Just... if you want to read a fic focused around Alyaâs problems and emotions, but that treats everyone else well too, that gives her a lot of agency and also a lot of support, I HIGHLY recommend this fic.
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call me babydoll | reader x chan
a/n: ahhhhh holy holy heck this chapter is SO DAMN EXCITING hehehe I had sosososo much writing and doing all the research!! please let me know if there is anything factual/cultural that I need to fix! I tried the best I could although I most def am not an expert in Egyptian culture so I appreciate it a lot :) hehe i hope ya have fun reading this chapter teehee oh! also I love hearing what you thought of it too! :DÂ
FourÂ
Pairing: self insert, female reader x bang chanÂ
Genre: action, mystery and suspense, fluff, smut, angstÂ
Tags: (of this part)Â bodyguard au, secret agent au, royal au, moderndayprince!chan, secretagent!reader, secretagent!jeongin, secretagent!jisung, collegestudent!seungmin, royal!minho, skz side characters, adventure and mystery, action and peril, plot driven, running out of time, slow-ish burn, growing feelings, sexual tension, explicit language, several mentions of food and alcohol as well as getting tipsy/drunk that good, good making out, suggestive themes
CWs: mentions of guns, mentions of knives, themes of jealousy (expressed by the reader)Â
Word count: 7.5k
PartsÂ
ONE | TWO | THREE | FOUR | FIVEÂ
âWell, weâre in Cairo alright.âÂ
Two tugged the amazed young stow-away-student, Seungmin, by the hand of his backpack to keep him from running into one of the palm tree planters decorating the terminal. The young man had nearly slept the whole flight due to the length as well as the exasperation that he had just been through. While his eyes were still darkened from his nap, his glossy pupils still wondered all around him.Â
âI take it back. Iâm so glad that I almost died so I could end up here with you guys.âÂ
Jeongin slapped him from the backside of his head. âNever be thankful for almost dying. Life is a lot more fucking fragile than you think. This isnât just some joyride--âÂ
â--Ease up F.â You interrupted your partner as you shouldered your bag. The kid had already been through enough already: he didnât need accosting on top of it all.Â
The dashing prince sighed out and stretched his arms. âAhhhh Cairo. Itâs been a while; too long actually.âÂ
The airport was humid: the kind of sticky warmth that dripped down your neck in a matter of seconds to then get caught above your lip. It wasnât much help to the anxiety that already had seeped into your veins. The closer you got to a gun the more comfortable you would be. You and the other two guards created a formation around the prince with two in the front and the other in the flank. While each of you were dressed in regular street clothes, your responsibility of his detail still hung over your head with a severe air.Â
Chan threw his arm over the young student with an obscene grin. His hair had become a little disheveled from the plane seat and his hoodie, but he didnât appear to mind. Seeing him so normal was somewhat of an odd change to your previous unbreakable impression of him.Â
âSeungmin my friend, youâve never lived until youâve been to Cairo. Iâve never seen another place so enriched in history in my whole life...it puts my kingdom to shame. Itâs almost like...you can just feel the time here: hundreds of thousands of years...beauty, art, food, industry...Iâve got a thing or two to learn.âÂ
Seungmin nodded at the princeâs grandiose gestures in the terminal with an enamored smile. âI canât wait to see it!âÂ
Your partner put a firm hand on the princeâs back to guide him to the baggage claim. âWe wonât be here for long, so, donât get too excited. Weâve come here for one reason and we shouldnât dally otherwise.âÂ
The young boy appeared to frown, and Two bit his lip with a little chuckle. âWay to crush the kids dreams F.âÂ
âYou know the mission, J.â Jeongin gritted his teeth with the words. âEverything is set, there will be a car waiting for us in the garage, and at the hotel weâll have anything we need.âÂ
Prince Chan lulled his head back with heels clicking on the flooring. Rogue strands of his hair hung over his sunglasses where he threw a look back at you while pulling them down.Â
âDonât forget our little deal Bee? Weâll have time for a little pleasure.âÂ
The white haired agent rolled his eyes with gusto then adjusted the royalâs glasses over his face. âWeâve still got to be careful, you Highness. We never know where they could have eyes.âÂ
âI know where Iâve got mine...â He turned back once more to throw his cockiness in your general direction.Â
âListen to F, your Highness...if you want to live.âÂ
âOooo. Feisty as ever, Bee. I love it when you bite back.â Chan turned to his new pet, Seungmin, âSheâs really something isnât she?â
The young man nodded, but not necessarily because he agreed, but it just seemed like it better to agree with a prince than to disagree with him.Â
The air appeared to turn even thicker in the summery and arid city and your group approached the parking lot half shaded. Outside of the cement lot, iridescent waves of heat wiggled on the horizon, and further, the astonishing urban sprawl of Cairo, and just over it, the stretch of the Nile and Giza. Palms and other varieties of plants spotted the landscape and above it all, a perfectly crystal blue sky streaked with thin clouds. Had the circumstances been different, you really would have wished to have been there for pleasure.Â
âThis one. Right here.â Jeongin announced upon spotting the black armored sedan. It wasnât the most inconspicuous vehicle, but you were prioritizing safety over aesthetics. Your partner touched his index fingerprint to the car doorâs invisible panel, and it flashed blue just as the lock had at the safehouse with the ticking clock insignia.Â
Two whipped his head around to make one last check of the surroundings before taking off his sunglasses and reddened eye. âGet in. Both of you.â He urged the prince and the student. He popped the drivers side open to find a different pair of glasses in the storage compartment: gold framed aviators.Â
âHuh,â He said happily while putting them on. âThis is more my style.â He rummaged around a bit more to find a new pair of black framed glasses there too. âFox! Think fast!â He threw them over to your partner who sighed out with relief.Â
âThank god.âÂ
The trunk opened with a mechanical sounding creek, and you lifted up the trunk bed to find your whole arsenal: Heckler & Koch MP5â˛s submachines, Remington 870 shotguns, and Glocks complete with thigh holsters. Among the pile of metal, various knives and other weapons were held in foam holders.Â
âTheyâve got knives back there?â Two asked while pulling the rearview mirror to see.Â
âOh yeah. What? You more of a knife guy?â You teased while looping your thigh holster over your cargo pants. It fit just right.Â
The illusive man popped his gum with a shiny smile. ââDonât ever have to reload them...thatâs what Iâm saying.âÂ
âThank you Carroll.â Jeongin sighed upon seeing the thick laptop among the weapons. âFinally I can do some real work. That kidâs damn Chromebook was killing me. I nearly short circuited it trying to connect to our network.âÂ
âYou what?!â Seungmin was suddenly much more interested.Â
âDont worry yourself too much, its still fine.âÂ
âAre there cameras in here?â You quickly asked your partner.Â
âAgency shouldâve fried them a long time ago. Why?âÂ
From the trunk bed you sized up the Glock to feel its weight and how cool it settled into your sweating hand. You unloaded the magazine to see that it had already been filled.Â
âCarroll. She really is too kind to us.â You slid the magazine back in then, pulled back the slider to lock it once more, catching Chanâs adoring glance.Â
âSomething interesting pretty boy?âÂ
The prince appeared to shiver a little, but brushed it off sighing, âOh, nothing.âÂ
ââââââââââ˛âââââââââ
Either it was Carroll or the King, but someone had spared no expense on the young prince. The sun set upon the sparking Nile where you had arrived at the Four Seasons Hotel Cairo at Nile Plaza.Â
Anything for His Royal Highness The Prince.Â
The towering and gleaming building was a sight to behold in and of itself. It was nestled right into the riverside anchored with several leisurely sailboats bopping in the evening breeze. As day crept into night, the city grew with a swell of lights washing as far as you could see. Extensive bridges and roadways glowed with headlights and every building appeared to be illuminated along with more boats strolling down the river in a rainbow of colors and music.Â
The prince craned his head as close to the window as he could and rubbed together his hands excitedly. He looked from you to your partners, finally making a disapproving scoff.Â
âCome on. Youâre not just a little excited to be here?âÂ
âWeâre here on business, how many times do we have to explain?â Jeongin typed away at his computer from the front seat.Â
âBee?â He looked back to you with a hopeful little glint to his eye.Â
âLike Fox said...tomorrow is our appointment with White Rabbit, then weâre on the first flight back home for you.âÂ
The young prince frowned, but this quickly faded once he had seen the golden brass doors to the magnificent hotel. Seeing the state that the four of you were in, it was a bit comical that you had rolled up to a place such as this. Immediately a valet and bellhop jogged up to the car wearing perfectly pressed uniforms and spotless shined shoes. Little did they know you had no belongings to your name...the rest was waiting in your suite: the royal kind.Â
Seungmin cranked his neck to take in the scale of the building in all of itâs regal glory and let out an airy laugh his with his backpack straps snapped tight.Â
âHoly shit.â He exclaimed with a giant smileÂ
Two rose a âno thank youâ hand to the valet, and asked him where the garage was in perfect Arabic. The gesture surprised you...as many things did with that man. Jeongin gave a little nod in appreciation to the bellhop and expressed with his own broken version of Arabic that you group had no luggage. The young man was confused, but still gladly took the bills that Jeongin had slipped into his hand for the inconvenience.Â
âWeâre staying here?â Seungmin wondered while he followed you in.Â
âWhen you travel with The Prince, it comes with some perks.â Chan tore off his glasses with a particularly prideful grin.Â
âI feel like I need to pay for just...breathing in here.âÂ
Indeed, it was a luxurious and grand place. The atrium was patterned with various plush lounge chairs and benches and the path was made of emerald green marble tiles with swirling designs of beige loops. Thick, round columns also supported the ceilings in the lobby, and crystal glass chandeliers sparkled. On several tables, massive floral arrangements had been freshly placed, and you wondered how much the hotel must've paid for them to look that good just to have them replaced the next day.Â
A couple formalities were exchanged with the worker at the front desk, and soon the keycards to the royal suite were placed into your hands. Seungmin held his piece of plastic as if it were a gold bar in his hands whereas Chan shoved it right into his front pocket.Â
âEverything that we should need should be up in the room.â You told the group who were too distracted to hear what you had just said.Â
Just before you had entered the elevator, a tug at your sleeve stopped you in your tracks. Jeongin pulled you back, nodding at Two to go with the others up first.Â
âRemember what we talked about before?â He muttered in the hollow and stone corridor. âAbout the prince?âÂ
âI need to stay beside him?âÂ
Your partner nodded with a furrowing brow. âWeâre out in the open here, itâs a big city...anyone could be watching us. No distractions, no messing around, no anything. We see White Rabbit and we leave. Hell, Iâm even inclined to make sure he doesnât leave the room...âÂ
âJeongin...â You squeezed your partnerâs shoulder which felt stringy and tense under your fingertips. âI got it. Trust me. He wonât leave my sight. I promise.âÂ
â..Okay.â He said with a nervous brush to his hair, then he pressed the elevator button with his knuckle.Â
âYou...okay?âÂ
The young man appeared to snap out of a trance. âWhat? ...Yeah. Why wouldnât I be? Iâm keeping it together fine. Itâs just...thereâs a lot riding on this mission. I donât...âÂ
The gold and reflective elevator dinged to the ground floor.Â
âWe canât disappoint Carroll with this one. Thereâs too much riding on it...I canât disappoint Carroll.â   Â
You invited your partner into the marbled and mirrored interior of the small space.Â
âDonât worry, we wonât.â
ââââââââââ˛âââââââââÂ
 Even without the help of his royal helpers, Chan managed to clean himself up nice...provided, only the finest clothes had been sent for him to wear. While they werenât the usual designer labels that he was used to, it was clear that they had been picked out from the finest markets and boutiques in the area. Chan, as he always was, was a prince to the full extent of the word. After a shower and some perfume to his chest, he was the same man that you had been introduced to.Â
A loose linen shirt swayed from his frame with little regard for the usage of buttons. He wore slacks that had been pressed made of a kind of fabric that you had never seen before, but looked airy and comfortable. As always, there was a small assortment of shoes for him to choose from as well. He picked brown leather loafers, then tucked up his sleeves to reveal his arms; scratched as they were, but still strong and spiderwebbed with thick veins.Â
Arrangements had been made for you to share one of the bedrooms with him--as much as you had fought it at first. Chan was thrilled with the idea, and gladly let you settle into his room with your small assortment of sidepieces and modest set of clothes by regulation of The Agency. While it had mostly been denim button downs and several kinds of functional trousers, they had sent an evening gown.Â
The silky white fabric was not unlike the dress that had worn for the gala, but it appeared to be even more sultry once you held it to your frame. The thin spaghetti straps barely held to your shoulders and the back dipped nearly halfway down your back.Â
Knowing the man that you had an appointment with, you figured the dress would make it just a little bit easier to talk to him. Along with it, there was a matching set of diamond earrings and a necklace that glinted with the same sheen of the sea.Â
âYouâll look gorgeous in that.â Chan said while slipping on a wristwatch. âIâm sure that it will suit you perfectly.âÂ
The wooden bedside nightstand creaked when you put your holster and Glock in with a matching matte black knife. You had to be careful with that one, as it had nearly cut your finger upon inspection earlier.    Â
âHm. I think the both of us know that youâd prefer it on these lovely marble floors rather than on me. Correct?âÂ
The confident prince strode across the room in the dim lighting of a couple lamps with stained glass shades. Outside of the balcony attached to your room, the sheer curtains blew in the night air and distorted the city lights across the river. Further, Cairo Tower surged with a pink light wrapping around the length were the cylinder pierced the sky.Â
âMaybe.â He tutted, then crinkled the king-sized bed where he sat. The princeâs disposition was alluring, there was no denying. He tiled his head to inspect you further, jaw clenching with a sharp angle and a testing glare to his brown pupils. The man smiled slightly while rubbing his index and ring finger down the sleeve of your considerably less scratchy blouse.Â
âI hope that during our time here Bee, Iâll get to know you a little better. Iâm...really looking forward to our drink later. I made reservations for us.âÂ
âReservations? When did you do that?âÂ
âOh. When you were showering.â He smirked at his sneaky plans unbeknownst to you.Â
âIf you think that Iâm letting you go anywhere else besides this hotel--âÂ
â--Bee?â The young royal grew quieter, softer, careful even. His hand cascaded from your arm down to your waist where he tentatively went to grab at your hip and squeeze lightly there.Â
While your first reaction was to swat him away, your second crept up on you unexpectedly, and swelled with a kind of confused euphoria feeling the pressure of him on your body. You let his hand linger there, thumb pressed into your hipbone.Â
âYou donât need that dress to be beautiful.âÂ
His words snapped you back; sickly sweet, and sticky in your chest. You cast his hand off of you.Â
âYouâre crossing the line, your Highness. Donât...donât touch me again.âÂ
The royal sighed as he rose, then inspected his face in the sizeable mirror. Each of his cuts and scars had been skillfully covered with makeup the best he could manage. Â
âBee, Iâd cross multiple lines for you. I thought you knew?â  Â
âTHIS BED IS FUCKINâ AMAZING!!â Seungmin called from the opposite of the suite.Â
The prince smiled, then followed you to the door.Â
âIâve already got enough on my hands, your Highness. I ask that you not distract me.âÂ
âDistract you?âÂ
As soon as you had said it, regret bit at the tips of your ears. You couldnât meet his teasing glances, but rather slid one of your more discrete sidepieces into your crossbody bag--as if guns as such could be such a thing.Â
âI-I...Iâll sleep on the couch.â You then resolved out loud, however the prince chuckled at your sudden break.Â
âAs you wish Bee.âÂ
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âI think that this is the best meal that Iâve ever eaten in my entire life!!âÂ
Seungmin kicked his legs under the table to the embarrassed glances of both Jeongin and Chan. Before you, the prince had ordered a variety of both cold and hot mezzah dishes with a couple main entrees for you to share. While he was the only one to drink, he indulged in the most expensive wine that the hotel had to offer. Granted, everything would be paid for in cash from The Agency, however the Prince swore up and down that anyone could order anything that they wanted and that The Agency would be paid back in full. You and your partners ate modestly, however the young student didnât hold back. As the boy shoved his face, it appeared to make the prince happy to see him eating so well.Â
You were still an odd group, and garnered curious glances from other restaurant guests. While they were only glances in passing, they still didnât make you feel any better. You had already drawn enough attention to yourself with you being an odd mix of foreigners who each held themselves differently. You could sense that you partner felt it too while he sipped at his seasonal soup with eyes up to scan the room as he did so.Â
Chan threw his arm behind your chair to take in the rest of the room: perfectly decorated with jade green chandeliers and perfectly symmetrical wallpaper and furnishings. It was as if he felt somehow content with your strange little group; like he was the ringleader of it all or some king of the round table. For a moment, he paused to watch the way that the boats passed by on the river from the window nearest to him and sighed. Knowing him, he was probably enjoying running for his life in this way.Â
Two cleared his throat and unbuttoned his fashionable suit jacket as the waiters came to clear the table for dessert.Â
âSo. What are the specs for tomorrow?âÂ
Jeongin fiddled with his glasses, then dabbed away at the corners of his mouth. âHeâs invited us to come around 11pm. He wants us to dress up too--as Iâm sure youâve all seen the clothes that have been provided for us. He apparently loves his formalities, but, anything to make him feel more comfortable I suppose. His men will meet us in the front and take us to him, then we try our best not to fuck it up.â
â--Which we wonât.â You soothed your partner.Â
Seungmin perked up, âIâm coming too?âÂ
âHow else are we going to look after ya, kid?â Two ruffled up the young manâs hair.Â
âW-wait. Didnât you say that itâs a club? Will they even let me in? Iâm not like, 21 yet? I mean, I will be in a couple months--âÂ
â--Ahhh youâre so cute.â Chan beamed. âIf youâre rolling with us that doesnât matter.âÂ
Seungmin blushed and played with the condensation of his water glass. âOh.âÂ
Your partner shifted in his seat. âSpeaking of. Considering that youâre âone of usâ now. We need to discuss something important with you. Your identity.â He looked over to you to finish the rest of the speech that had been pushed off for just a bit too long.Â
âYour name...is your most valuable asset. Itâs the only thing about yourself that you can keep for yourself. No one else should know it besides you...and, well, us. If they know your name, they know your family, they know where you live, where you go to school, even that girl that you had a crush on in the fourth grade. Got it?âÂ
Seungmin gulped dry with blown out eyes. âI-I think that I understand.âÂ
âWhat do you want us to call you from now on?âÂ
He paused, considering towards the ceiling. âWell...if youâre B, and heâs F...and heâs J...I could be S? Simple enough right?âÂ
âS it is then.âÂ
The waiters arrived with every dessert possible: chocolate cake, Crème Brule, fruit cheesecake garnished with mint, as well as traditional desserts like Om Ali and Mehalabiya--a type of milk pudding dressed with delicate, pink, edible flowers.Â
Seungmin--now dubbed S--made happy little eating sounds while he tried a little bit of everything.Â
âThank you.â You finally spoke to the prince, who now smelled strongly of Lotus and Jasmine.Â
âDonât worry about it. I donât mind treating my friends.âÂ
The word hung in the air, and you didnât quite know what to do with it.Â
Friends.Â
âWhere is this reservation that you mentioned?âÂ
He took a swing from his crystal glass with finesse. âHm. Thatâs for me to know and you to find out.âÂ
âJeongin told me that I need to keep an eye on you, you know that? It would be best if we didnât leave the hotel at all--âÂ
â--But what would be the fun in that?â The prince nearly pouted.Â
From the others side of the table, Two in his aviators brushed off his lap before standing. âIâm going to get some sleep, if thatâs alright with you? Iâm feeling pretty jetlagged and I want to be prepared for tomorrow. Excuse me.âÂ
The slender man bowed to you at the table, then even deeper to the prince.Â
âWhat was that about?â Jeongin muttered while he poked at the thin caramel layer of his French dessert.Â
âActually, I think I want to head to bed too, Iâm stuffed.â Seungmin rubbed his belly in his contentment. âAlso...I think I might have homework due...heh. I donât know...Iâve got to figure out all these all these time differences and stuff.â He pushed in his chair then gave the prince a deep bow. âThank you, your Highness.âÂ
âMy pleasure.â Chan said with a tiny bow back. âRest up, kid.âÂ
With the empty holes at the table, the silence was deafening.Â
âAnd then there were three.â Jeongin yawned. âBee? Wanna do some laps in the morning? I saw that they had a pool? Wanna see if you can beat my record...again?âÂ
âPsh. I was coming off that biochemical cocktail the last time we tired. You had an advantage.âÂ
âThen youâll beat me? Hm! I look forward to that.â Your adorable partner flashed the first smile that youâd seen in a couple days. You missed it, you realized.Â
âSleep tight Bee. Goodnight your Highness.âÂ
âThank you Fox.â The prince mirrored his warm smile.Â
Knives and forks clinked on china in the dining room, and music softly payed the soundtrack of the evening. A low hum filled the space where the tourists and patrons chatted among themselves. It was peaceful and normal amidst everything that had been pricking your skin and plaguing worry over your mind. The prince merely sighed, sparking eyes reflecting the candles dying out on the table.Â
âAnd now itâs just the two of us.âÂ
âSeems like it.âÂ
âCan I whisk you away now?âÂ
âWhisk? Who said that I would allow any whisking?âÂ
âCome on...Bee. Just this one time? I promise to be on my best behavior.âÂ
You laughed out incredulously at the comment. âYou out of all people canât promise something like that.âÂ
âI guess youâre right about that. But...still, I wonât try to make a scene or anything.âÂ
The royal placed his napkin on the table with his knife and fork respectfully tilted off the edge of his plate.Â
âFollow me?âÂ
Chan held out his hand. It was pink with heat and scraped a little from the glass that had pierced the fragile flesh. In some way, you had felt a twinge of guilt seeing the small injury knowing that you couldnât have protected him well enough then. You allowed him to lace your fingers with yours, and felt the rough cuts of his scars in your palm.Â
You had promised to yourself that he would never know such pain again.Â
ââââââââââ˛âââââââââ
âAnnnd...this is it!âÂ
You had taken all of twenty paces outside of the hotel when Chan gestured with open arms to the riverfront. Just at the riverbank, a steamboat was anchored with open doors for hotel guests to enter. The massive, multideck, white steamboat shone like the moon peaking at the oceanâs horizon. Each of the semi-circle windows were lined with white lights and from the inside, the delightful sound of laugher and live music spilled out to the glossy water of the Nile.Â
âW-what is this?âÂ
âWellâŚitâs a dinner cruise but I just signed us up for the bar part. Are you...surprised? I thought that it must be pretty safe considering that weâre on the water and no one can drive up and shoot at us.âÂ
âI mean...itâs a bit closed off, but nothing that I canât handle.âÂ
The prince held out his arm for you to lead the way, then took your hand to help you watch your step down the stairs. Chan provided his name to the conductor in elegant sounding Arabic, leaving you shocked.Â
âY-you speak Arabic too?âÂ
Chan chuckled once more, taking your hand in his to bring you down the creaking wood deck with swinging with lanterns above your heads.Â
âAs a royal and diplomat, itâs best for me to know how to communicate if I might need to.âÂ
âI must say your Highness, I am definitely impressed.âÂ
âWhat? You thought I was just another pretty face?â The charming prince escorted you to a room within the steamboat that was lined with red velvet carpets and small bar tables with tea candles and water lilies floating in a shallow dish. He pulled out your chair before his own, then settled with hands folded in his lap. âIâm trained in hand-to-hand too, although I could use a refresher; that was so long ago, back when I went to school.âÂ
âHand-to-hand? Well! You really are full of surprises.âÂ
The prince appeared smug and faintly amused by the compliment as he crossed his legs under the table and leaned in with his dizzying floral scent.Â
The waitress appeared and Chan flexed his language skills once more while he ordered a Hemmingway Daiquiri for himself and a French 75 for you. Somewhere off in the distance or perhaps a different part of the boat, louder and more excitable music played along with the echoing claps of those who listened along. Here, it was much quieter, and the loud sound was replaced with a jazz song that you had heard before--likely from your more formative years.Â
âItâs a beautiful night.â Chan began, âThank you for agreeing to do this with me. I know that Iâve been a bit forward, but, I appreciate you entertaining me.âÂ
âIf I had said no, what wouldâve happened then?âÂ
âWell, maybe I wouldâve dropped it, but...knowing you...I donât think that I wouldâve given up easily.âÂ
The waitress returned with the drinks on a silver platter: his grapefruit pink and yours the color of a lemon drop.Â
The royal rose his glass for you to clink with yours, âTo...adventures.âÂ
âTo adventures.âÂ
With a resounding sound, the glasses met, and you watched the way that the shimmering liquid ripped across the princeâs nose.Â
The two of you sat for several moments more, saying nothing, but sipping and soaking in the night breeze and the humidity that made your whole body feel blanketed with a sense of calm. You had felt this way before back at the safe house, and it snuck up on you once more. Simply exisiting with the prince provided you with a sense of solace that had long since faded from your life. The sense of responsibility that you felt for the man was noticeable, but you couldnât help but notice how he provided for you the same sense of safety that you did for him.Â
Perhaps it was the loneliness of the job and the solitude that came along with it. Was that you craved to be touched? Listened to? Admired? You had distanced yourself from irrational things such as love and other feelings of attachment. In your line of work, people died often, and you had to move on just as fast as their lives had been taken from them. You supposed that you had become unfeeling at this point...but this prince, so full of himself and focused on the material...there was something about him that reminded you how to feel.Â
âBee? What are you thinking about?â He asked carefully.Â
âOh...nothing.âÂ
âYou looked kind of lost here.âÂ
âWas I?âÂ
âYou okay?âÂ
âYeah...yeah. Iâm fine. Maybe the drink is just...getting to me.âÂ
âJust one drink?â Chan giggled a bit, âI didnât take you for being a lightweight Bee. I thought that they gave you like, drinking lessons or something back at that agency of yours.âÂ
âIâm fine. I shouldnât have more than one drink anyway.âÂ
The prince nodded, understanding. âSo, what will you tell me about yourself? Is there anything that youâre allowed to tell me? Or...will you always be this mysterious, beautiful, enigma?âÂ
âMe? Enigmatic? Ha! Hardly.âÂ
âWell? What then?â The prince sucked at the lime garnishing his glass. âSince I donât have the pleasure of knowing your real name, Iâd love it if you could tell me something.âÂ
Over the stereo, the muted trumpet played along with the twang of thick upright bass strings,
âI suppose I could tell you how...â Chan leaned in, âI didnât want to join The Agency. At first.âÂ
âOh? Whyâs that?âÂ
âIt felt like a bit of a last resort and anything that is a last resort is something that canât come easy.âÂ
Chan titled his head as if to say, Iâm listening.Â
âLife...fucking sucks sometimes. Sometimes...youâre left...living with your sleazy uncle with a letter addressed to you post mortem telling you to carry on the family name if you want to feel some connection to the parents that you never knew.âÂ
The royal cast his eyes down, âI-Iâm so sorry.âÂ
âThe Agency has been everything Iâve known since I was a teenager. This life...itâs everything. I think in a way I feel obligated to it...since it was what took my parents from me...I owe it to them to do a job that they spent so much energy on so that it wasnât in vain.âÂ
You stopped, realizing the weight of your words in the air and how they cut like the blade of the knife that you kept tucked in your waistband sheathed in a leather cover. Once the sharp metal was taken from itâs confines, there was nothing to protect those from the damage it could do.Â
âBee...I donât know what to say besides Iâm sorry. Thatâs terrible. I canât imagine what it must be like to loose your parents and have been thrown into this life...no one deserves that.âÂ
âIts okay.â You sighed. âI did it to myself. Now, itâs of no concern. I can take care of my own, and I have a new family. I try not to look back.âÂ
As he had done numerous times before that night, Chanâs hand reached out for yours under the table, brushing up against the white cloth.Â
âI canât say how much I appreciate you enough for what you do; risking your life for me...I owe you everything Bee.â The prince softened, rubbing his thumb against the back of your hand.Â
The chug of the steamboat hissed softly behind you in that back bar room, and just through the windows, you could see the stars dotting the sky just as they did in any corner of the world. They were a reminder that while some things changed, others didnât.Â
The echo of footsteps on the deck clicked, causing you to turn a careful glance back to the direction of the sound. The man who entered was dressed in a casual cotton button up and navy slacks. On the white of his breast, he wore a pin holding the symbol of a crest.
âLee Minho?â Chan gasped.Â
âYour Highness!â The handsome man bowed immediately with a startled little smile.Â
The friendly prince stood immediately upon seeing the other royal to shake his hand. âWhat a coincidence that we meet again!âÂ
Lee Minho shied with a polite smile while fiddling with his hair that looked to be masterfully styled. âMust be...fated. Or something like that.âÂ
âAre you alright? Last I saw you was at the shooting at the gala. Iâm so glad to see that youâre safe. You didnât get injured I hope?âÂ
This close, Lee Minho had oddly cat-like eyes that were as intense as they were alluring. He was just as you had remembered him to be--put together and polished like a true royal, dastardly handsome with all the right curves to his body, and just enough mystery to him to pique the interest of anyone who had sensed his air--just as the prince had.Â
âWhat are you doing in Cairo?â Chan asked, gesturing for the stranger to pull up a chair.Â
Lee Minho swatted away the question with an annoyed cringe. âRoyal stuff, you know how it goes. Everyone is always trying to poke their noses in places where they shouldnât be...unless theyâre looking to get themselves killed. That's why they send me. Iâm dispensable.âÂ
âOh, Iâd hardly say that.âÂ
In seconds the princeâs entire body had shifted towards the direction of the other man, and hung onto each of his words as if they were a siren song.Â
âWhen youâre not as high up in the ranks as you are your Highness, royalty starts to feel more like servitude than a legitimate position.âÂ
âSo, where are you poking your nose?âÂ
Lee Minhoâs eyes nervously flicked to you, and Chan realized that he had skipped right over introductions.Â
âOh! Iâm sorry, I didnât introduce the two of you. Minho, this is Bee, my--âÂ
â--Iâm a member of his detail.â You spoke for him. âItâs a pleasure to meet you formally Lee Minho. I recall seeing you at the gala.âÂ
Minho bowed slightly, âItâs a pleasure to meet you too.âÂ
It was obvious that you had made the man uncomfortable, just as you had liked it to be. While you could see what the prince had seen in him, you had the disposition to be much less trusting than his Highness.Â
âWhich royals are employing you? Iâd love to know! Itâs always exciting for me to learn about who is plotting what. The royal drama keeps me really entertained.âÂ
Minho sat up straighter, then waved a hand for the waitress to come scuttling over.Â
âSome of my family members. You wouldnât know them, weâre all dreadfully insignificant to be honest. They heard all this business about those men with the red crests and theyâre starting to get scared. After they targeted...you, theyâre wondering which royal family might be next...if any. Iâm here to find out who they are, their whereabouts, anything else.âÂ
âWow! Thatâs actually what we--â
â--And where are you planning on getting this information if I may ask?â You hushed the princeâs loose lips as quickly as you could.Â
Minho leaned in over the flickering candle to lower his tone, âI heard that thereâs an informant here in the city who might now something about this group. Theyâve been popping up on national news too as of late. Iâm looking to talk to him tomorrow evening. Luckily, I was able to make an appointment but it was no small feat. I had to bribe him to high hell to get him to speak with me.âÂ
âHm. Sounds familiar.â You mumbled.Â
Chanâs eyes widened, then he looked back to you to ask for permission. You gave him a nod.
âIt seems like weâre here for a common purpose my friend.â The prince leaned in to bridge the gap between them, his hand notably reaching to rest on the other manâs thigh below the tableâs surface. âWeâre seeking similar information and I think we might be speaking of the same informant.âÂ
âBut your Highness, isnât it dangerous it you to do something like this?âÂ
âNot when Iâve got her around.â Chan threw a sly grin to you across the table. âIâm well protected. And you? Whereâs your detail?âÂ
âIâm afraid that Iâm out here alone. Like I said, when youâre as low in the ranks as I am...âÂ
âWhat? Thatâs terrible!! They arenât even protecting their own? Bee!!âÂ
âYes, your Highness?â You already knew where this was going.Â
âLetâs bring Minho along with us tomorrow! We know that thereâs safety in numbers--âÂ
âYour Highness, in case you havenât noticed, our hands are already a bit full...â
âI can fend for myself.â Lee Minho suddenly piped. âTravelling alone, Iâve picked up a few things about protecting myself. You donât have to protect me, but, I appreciate the offer.âÂ
âNonsense! You should come with us! I would feel more comfortable if you did rather than went by yourself.âÂ
Lee Minho gave the royal a smile in his thanks, it was pure and a little adorable you had considered...but that was likely the champagne going to your head.Â
âReally? I appreciate it, your Highness.âÂ
While you were distanced, you nearly couldâve sworn that the prince had squeezed the otherâs leg reassuringly, and you were willing to bet he had rubbed it with his thumb too just as he had done to you.Â
After long, the waitress returned with Lee Minhoâs drink, and the two men chatted like old college buddies while you slipped away at your drink in an attempt to make it last as long as you could. While Chan did try to engage you in conversation, it would never last for long until he would become puppy-eyed over the stranger again. In the end, you wondered if the tipsy prince wouldâve also confessed to this man if he had one too many drinks.Â
The table bumped with their jovial and restless legs, and you could only imagine what wandering hands sought to discover.Â
ââââââââââ˛âââââââââ
The hotel was quiet save for the click of heels on the marble floors from ladies who had just gotten off the steamboat and clung to their husbands in their drunken stupor. They cackled in the empty and golden lobby, then pressed hasty kisses into the stuttering mouths of their husbands whoâs mouths then smeared with hot pick lipstick. Chan giggled at the sight while he tripped over his own feet too.Â
âAhhhh. Being in love is so cute.â He adored them once you had entered the elevator.Â
âYouâre not going to throw up on me, are you?âÂ
The prince hiccupped, then shook his head. âUnlike you I know how to hold my liquor. Iâm fine. Just a bit sleepy I think. Must be the jet lag.âÂ
The tones for each floor beeped in the compartment, and Chan lulled his head back and forth.Â
âSo. Lee Minho huh?â You said, not even able to help yourself. The alcohol had brought you a bit of an edge...so you thought.Â
âLee. Minho.â He sighed out dreamily. âWhat do you think of him?âÂ
âI think I canât trust anyone as long as I havenât ran at least three background checks on them.âÂ
âAwww, Bee, youâre so thoughtful of me.âÂ
In the empty hallway, the prince with squinting eyes leaned against the doorframe to the royal suite, reaching out to brush up against your blouse once more. You let him, excusing his drunken state. After he did so, his eyes hazed over with something much different, while he looked exhausted, it was laced with something else: something much more longing.Â
âBee...fuck, I really want to kiss you again.âÂ
âHm. Thatâs ripe coming from you who was just viciously flirting with Lee Minho.âÂ
You could see his head spinning in his dilated pupils. âWhat?âÂ
The door clicked open and you less than gracefully lead the prince through the dark to your shared bedroom.Â
âB-Bee, what are you talking about?âÂ
You scoffed, âIâm not blind, you know.âÂ
âA-are you...jealous?âÂ
âW-what? Fuck no. Iâm just...you canât just...toss people around thinking that theyâll all bend to you.âÂ
Chan sat at the edge of the bed and rubbed at his temples when you turned one of the lamps on.Â
âI-I was doing that?âÂ
You tore a pillow from the bed as well as the throw blanket at the end. âIâm sleeping on the couch. Good evening, your Highness.âÂ
âWait! Bee!â The young prince stumbled after you, stubbing his toe against the bedpost in the process. âAh-FUCK!â He grunted.Â
âWhat?â You growled back to him, half shrouded in the darkness of the suite living room.Â
The royal stumbled out, eyes blank and backlit from the bedroom. While you couldnât see him fully, you later could assume that there was something in him terribly torn and ripped in that moment that made little sense to him, as it did to you to.Â
Arms reached out, bodies softly illuminated by the lights of the city, and the prince leaned himself fully into you, pressing bitter tasting lips to yours with a heat and desire that only seemed amplified the breather he had gotten. While he tasted of lime and grapefruits, with a twinge of alcohol. He was just as addictive as any vice. You wanted to feel him. As infuriating as he was, and oblivious, your abhorrence to him was just as strong as your attraction.Â
âMm, Bee--â He moaned directly into your mouth while shuffling both of you back to the bedroom.Â
The princeâs trembling breath floated from his mouth to yours where he used both of his large hands to pull your face closer to his. You knew that in some way, there must have been something ingenuine about the whole scenario, but you didnât care too much, not when kissing him felt like something. Maybe he had kissed you out of pity, or because he really had wanted to kiss you. You broke for seconds before both of your tangled limbs hit the bed.Â
âBefore...you said that you wouldnât kiss me.âÂ
âI didnât make any promises...but, how come...you said that you wouldnât hesitate...? But you kissed ba--âÂ
You silenced the princeâs words with your own heated kisses that made little sense, only that kissing him as such felt good. You straddled the man while his hungry fingers traced all the way down your back. The princeâs hips sunk into the cushiony mattress, and you screwed him down even harder into it with your own heated hips grinding into him with as much pressure as you could muster.Â
âThis is what you want, right?â You pulled at his lip with your teeth to hear him groan from it.Â
âIs it...what you want?â Chan got out between more kisses.Â
You could blame it on loneliness or lack of touch all that you wanted, but it wasnât even close.Â
âWait. Wait.â Chan suddenly interjected.Â
âWhat? What is it?âÂ
The prince looked up at you, that haze in his eyes now fading to something much different that wasnât covered in the lust that he held before.Â
âBee...I-I donât know if I want it to happen this way. It feels...itâs not...âÂ
âNot what?âÂ
He brushed his hand upward now to caress your face, lingering on the side of the peach fuzz on your cheek. âYou deserve better than whatever the hell this is.âÂ
âOh, so when I finally want to fuck you, youâre saying it isnât right?âÂ
âIâm saying, Iâm drunk, itâs late, clearly thereâs something thatâs upsetting you, and I want to know what it is before we do anything else. Tell me, whatâs wrong?â
It mightâve been Lee fucking Minho, or it mightâve been something else much stickier for you to admit, but seeing the prince like this, it was too much. He was gorgeous under you, practically angelic looking.Â
âI-Iâm...complicating things.â You whispered out, and the prince softened even further.Â
âThatâs what it is? Bee, I told that you donât have to worry about--âÂ
â--Yes. Yes I do...your Highness. I-I canât feel...âÂ
âBee--letâs just talk about--âÂ
The prince mightâve said more, but his words faded into murmurs once you closed his door behind you, then crawled onto the couch in Jeongin and Seungminâs room, locking their door too.Â
~đš~
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hilary listen the old guards slayed me. I mean the plot the pacing the writing the acting?? the diversity that didnât feel like lip service? tHAT ENDING??? Charlize Theron also knocked it out off the park. like the bone weary fatigue that comes with seeing too much and for too long couldâve been played as that snarky cynical and jaded god. but she dIDNT. and it was such an impactful and nuanced performance. Agh Iâm running out of characters gdi moving over to another ask (1/2)
ALSO BOOKER. I fucking love when they make a characters actions reasonable. like the man is clearly depressed. heâs tired and he wants some sort of agency back in the face of devastating loss over and over again. like waiting for your friends to heal themselves each time they die?? my god that amount of stress has to get to you at some point. which also lends to this self-awareness and surety among all of the characters (especially Nicky omg Nicky you beautiful cinnamon roll). GDI no space (2/3)Â
RIGHT. Nicky! what a compassionate but ruthlessly efficient solider (also that part near the end where he puts the gun over his shoulder for joe to take was kinda hot ngl). the juxtaposition is so interesting and compelling and we see it throughout the movie with all of the characters too. even their relationship as a team. itâs odd because theyâre really professional with each other but still choose to be a family from the get go. itâs even more profound when you think about it (NO SPACE Y) 3/4Â
because thatâs the one thing they truly have a choice over. theyâre going to see these 4 people for the rest of their long longgg lives and they can very easily say no. Iâll find others and lose them but I refuse to be forced to get stuck with you instead of someone else. they donât though and such props to the writer who didnât go down that traditional path of conflict. aggghh I could on about how andy didnât die either but Iâm running out of space Again and have spammed you enough lolollllÂ
LOOK.
It was as if ye olde Netflix Powers Thatte Be said âlook we know 2020 has been a flaming hellpit dumpster of Why God Why, so weâre gonna give the gays everything they wantâ
There was world-weary ancient Greek warrior short-haired lesbian Charlize Theron (that scene with the hot French pharmacy lady tenderly patching up her shoulder in the bathroom and the obvious sexual tension was SO UNNECESSARY BUT ALSO COMPLETELY NECESSARY GOD BLESS THE FILMMAKERS!) She has lost her equally hot and badass wife and there was Angst and Feelings and now we have Drama with said wife returning from the sea floor and I donât know whatâs gonna happen but my body is ready and I need the sequel immediately.
There were Joe and Nicky, the most beautiful devoted interracial/interreligious mlm immortal husbands who are still completely gaga for each other after hundreds of years, there are absolutely no gay âjokesâ or even any calling attention to their status, they whup ass and they make out in front of stormtroopers because why not get you a man who can do both. We have already discussed the fact that I am Deep down the rabbit hole for them.
There was Nile (NILE! I WOULD DIE FOR YOU!) the most PRECIOUS immortal bean, who is a Black woman who literally cannot be shot down, who takes the hits from the military (DONâT THINK I DID NOT NOTICE THAT THE US ARMY WAS ALSO GOING TO PUT HER IN A CAGE/INSTITUTION ONCE THEY FOUND OUT ABOUT HER) and from the white supremacist violence but GETS BACK UP EVERY TIME BECAUSE THEY CANNOT STOP HER WITH THEIR USUAL MINDLESS STATE SPONSORED MACHINE GUNS. She gets to rescue the whole team like a BADASS and go into the lab with the action-hero angles almost ALWAYS received by the Hard Bitten White Man, she gets to tackle the main villain off the top of a goddamn skyscraper and walk away from it while heâs dead, she is nonetheless Sweet and Vulnerable and in need of Protection so she gets to be BOTH the damsel in distress and the hero and I just... I have a lot of feelings about Nile okay.
Even the Hard Bitten White Man we did get, i.e. Booker, is the guy who makes painful choices and is driven by the pain of having to watch his children die and yet also still displays emotions and cares for his other family and awfully regrets what he did to hurt them (and when he realizes Andyâs not healing he PANICS) and now heâs met Quynh and oh the dramaaaa.
I VERY MUCH NOTICED THE CIA AND BIG PHARMA/AN INSUFFERABLE KNOW IT ALL RICH BRITISH WHITE MAN BEING THE VILLAINS UNDER CLAIMING TO DO âGOOD.â THANK YOU. (And good on you Chiwetel Ejiofor, I knew you wouldnât let Dudley Dursley actually get away with it)
THE ADVENTURES ACROSS HISTORY TO BE! GOOD! PEOPLE! NOT GRIMDARK POINTLESS ANNIHILATION! THEIR HEROISM MEANS SOMETHING IN THE END!!!
THE FOUND FAMILY OF IT ALL. As you note, they completely avoided the âoh no they all hate each other and snipe over petty things and try to kill each otherâ and went ânope they are a family and they watch football together in their loud church in France where they like to live and all sleep in the same bedroomâ LIKE UP YOURS MARVEL CINEMATIC UNIVERSE oops
And Andy DIDNâT die and is gonna see her wife again and now has to reckon with that and has to figure out how to fight when sheâs no longer completely invulnerable and has to mentor Nile and figure out how to be part of the team in a different way and and and
(I CANâT BELIEVE I ORIGINALLY FORGOT TO MENTION IT WAS DIRECTED BY A BLACK WOMAN AND A LOT OF WOMEN WORKED ON IT)
/breathes deeply
Anyway I liked it a normal amount.
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Iâm rewatching the Puppetmaster for ~research~ and ugh.This is such a good episode but I cannot stand the treatment of Hama and also Kataraâs special bending ability. And Iâm gonna talk about it because I canât help myself. But I also want to offer a solution maybe something that the writers could have done instead. Granted Iâm a white US American so while I am about to talk about imperialism, anti-indigenous racism and racialized misogyny, I am coming from a position of privilege here and ymmv. Itâs important that we as fans (especially white fans) acknowledge the things that our favorite stories can do better so that we can make our fandoms safer for everyone.
And btw fans of color have been talking about this so I definitely am going to be quoting some phenomenal bits of critique I have read on here. Also you should follow @shewhotellsstories and @visibilityofcolor for anti-racist fandom commentary.
I am also going to talk about grooming, so just be aware if that is a trigger for you.
I. Hama as a Campfire Horror Story Monster
The episode starts out with the Gaang camping in a creepy forest telling ghost stories to each other. Set to spooky music, Katara tells a story about something that happened to Kya, a friend named Nini (likely) dying in a snowstorm and then haunting her familyâs home as a ghost. Immediately after, Toph hears people screaming under the ground - and then Hama finds them and invites them to her inn.
Every so often, Hama says something spooky with the spooky music playing. Katara immediately takes to Hama, but the others (especially Sokka) find her pretty unnerving. Katara says she reminds her of Gran Gran before Sokka starts snooping around and finds a bunch of puppets and a comb from the Southern Water Tribe. Itâs the standard horror movie fakeout.
Every so often we get an artfully placed hint about Hamaâs agenda - pulling water out of thin air, showing Katara that âplants - and all living thingsâ are made of water. And oh yeah, she makes herself ice claws. Cool skill, but in the context of the episode, a little more unnerving.
The âmoon monsterâ that Old Man Ding mentions, the alleged Moon spirit, turns out to be Hama (of course) and the tension builds to a peak as the Gaang rush to save Katara from the âdark puppetmasterâ that has imprisoned the villagers.
Meanwhile Hama and Katara stand under the full moon washed in spooky cool lighting with an ominous breeze around them. You see Hama practically transform into a monster in a way sort of reminiscent to a werewolf - her fingers become claw-like, her veins pop out. I donât think itâs a stretch to say itâs a coincidence that as she reveals her true agenda, she becomes less human in appearance. Which... okay Iâll get to that later.
While I canât say that Katara fits the Final Girl trope very well, I do think itâs interesting to note that horror movies often do feature women as heroes who defeat the monster/killer/whatever and usually the Final Girl is used to allow audiences to experience the full horror of the villain, which absolutely is how Katara is used here. Yes, her friends come to help, but she saves everyone in the end (my queen).
So hereâs why thatâs bullshit.
Framing Hama as a horror story monster make sense when you donât think about the Implications of framing the indigenous woman POW living surrounded by people who have benefited from Fire Nation imperialism. It does - itâs a common trope: the reclusive witch who first seems kindly to some lost/wandering children before revealing her true intention - to use them for her own purposes. Yeah, I know theyâre playing on Hansel and Gretel. But yeah, Iâm gonna call bullshit on that too - drawing on a c*nnabalistic witch for inspiration when youâre writing an indigenous woman character is probably not the way to go.
II. Hama the Puppetmaster* and Groomer
A puppet master is obviously a puppeteer, and Hama has puppets (creepy though they may be). But in terms of the underlying meaning, sheâs a chessmaster, an Emperor Palpatine/Dick Cheney kind of master manipulator who works mostly through other people. What most people would consider a psychopath (in laymanâs terms). When her friendly mask falls, she is terrifying.
She is cold, calculating, manipulative as fuck - she isolates Katara almost immediately. Hama uses Kataraâs desire to connect with her culture to groom her to become a weapon. Itâs actually such a good example of grooming that it has to be purposeful:
Targeting a victim - Hama hears that Katara and Sokka are from the SWT. She also hears Katara tell a story about Kya. To Hama, a waterbender from her own culture is a hell of a target.
Gaining trust - Hama reaches out to Katara in particular, is especially kind to her, gives her individual attention that the others donât get. She prepares a SWT feast for them and tells the Gaang about her heritage when they go snooping.
Filling a need - so once Hama has given Katara reason to trust her about waterbending, she promises Katara to pass on SWT waterbending heritage that only Hama knows. She fills a unique need of Kataraâs.
Isolation - From then on out, we donât see Katara with the rest of the Gaang until the end of the episode. Hama seems like a normal teacher but she does start to drop little hints, pushing Katara very gently to see how she will react to her real agenda and desensitizing Katara to what would otherwise seem unacceptable coming from someone else who hasnât established that unique trust. âYouâve got to keep an open mind, Katara.â
So this would be the point at which Hama would make sexual contact but this is metaphorical so that obviously doesnât happen. What does happen is Hama pushes Kataraâs limits. She makes her pretty uncomfortable with the idea of killing the fire lilies for water, but when Hama appeals to their shared history of marginalization she gets over it.
Maintaining control: Hama makes her final move, which is obviously bloodbending, and reveals her true agenda - and when Katara refuses to manipulative living beingsâ blood, Hama violates her bodily agency. And not only this, but she pushes Katara into bloodbending when she victimizes the Gaang, fully realizing her control.Â
Hama sees it as a victory, and telling Katara breaks down at the end in one of the most emotional scenes in the show. She feels like so many of us have felt at some point: violated, betrayed by someone we trusted. And then they never really deal with that.
I actually think thatâs the point of The Puppetmaster, especially given ATLA being a show for children. I think itâs supposed to be a metaphor for csa.
And... okay.
Undoubtedly it is important to send these messages to kids. And yes, people usually are victimized by those closest to them, by those in their own communities. But not indigenous women. Iâm not saying it doesnât happen, but according to the National Congress of American Indians, Native American women and girls are more likely to be sexually assaulted by non-NA men. 57% of cases are perpetrated by white men. Not the people in their communities.
Choosing to tell this story with an indigenous woman POW (who very likely would have been victimized herself lbr) is a choice that I find really aggravating. When writers tell stories with a Point, it is incredibly important for those writers to understand the implications of what they are saying about the characters who they are using to make that point.
Like Iâm not saying donât make that point, or donât use Katara (who would in real life be at a higher risk of sexual violence than the others) to make it, but why make the perpetrator someone who is statistically unlikely to be Kataraâs abuser? Iâm not sure I have a good answer to that question. My guess is, like with making Hama animalistic and about as unsympathetic as it gets, the writers just had blinders on about the cultural implications of what they were saying.
Not even considering the whole victimizing-the-âinnocentsâ-of-the-Fire-Nation-town plot, Hamaâs not a good person. This is probably because she was driven mad by the need for revenge, which, eurgh okay, but still itâs very apparent that she is not interested in winning over Kataraâs support directly or honestly.
* also the antisemitic history of this trope hmm.
III. Hama and The Victims of Genocide Victimizing Oppressors #NotAllFireNation
Okay. So this is the part that I think annoys me the most because itâs so bad. Like, imagine for a minute that youâre a white guy and youâre gonna tell a story about a victim of genocide who is completely divorced from her culture and homeland, and furthermore is an escaped prisoner of war who has radicalized in prison - okay it just hit me, I know what they MIGHT have been going for, like maybe some kind of anti-Gitmo statement? But that didnât happen. People who were stolen away from Iraq and imprisoned illegally in Guantanamo Bay, and who were released after being detained illegally, havenât really shown any real radicalization. Theyâre pissed at the US for victimizing them, but like that seems pretty fair considering so many of them did nothing wrong.
Thatâs been the US governmentâs excuse for not releasing innocent people who were detained illegally. The idea that prisoners of war radicalized in Gitmo so they canât be released because theyâll attack the US is propaganda. Iâm not saying it hasnât happened, but thatâs where it comes from.
Considering the time period ATLA was written, considering how much of it was inspired by the US wars of aggression and imperialism, considering how political ATLA is (and why it was so popular during its initial run - during the years that Bush lost a ton of popularity) I think if thatâs what they were thinking about, thatâs not great.
But for all of Avatarâs good messaging on imperialism and war, itâs still written from a white US American mindset. Well surely Iâm not responsible, surely you shouldnât imprison and abuse me, a random white girl in the States. Itâs my government, which I cannot control because of two-party politics or some shit.
So first off, thatâs shitty because oppression is often about systems, not individuals. Sure we need to always consider the individual experiences of people who are victimized, but the people who are benefiting from imperialism? Me? Fuck if I care if someone in El Salvador or Iraq or Chile or idk any of the countries we have meddled in, let alone from a marginalized community in the United States, hates white US Americans for what our government has done - and thatâs even silly because white US citizens support our government. Like we think the institutions are sound, although sometimes we donât support the guy in charge. We think the cops are going to help us, even though that isnât really the case.
Why frame it about what sheâs doing to the Fire Nation civilians at all? Why make Hama the villain? I donât think they wanted her to be unsympathetic, I mean they tell her story and I donât think anyone would conclude that it doesnât justify her desire for revenge, but why tell this story through a victim of genocide?
Recently I saw a post by @sunkin-akh where they point out that Hama basically quotes Malcolm X:
I was literally just watching the Hama episode again and I just noticed for the first time that while forcing Katara to bloodbend she says that they must fight back against the Fire Nation (and she used this exact phrase) âby any means necessaryâ, which is Frantz Fanonâs phrase popularized by Malcolm X during the Civil Rights Movement (iirc). They directly compared Black liberation to Hamaâs evil acts and it disgusted me.
The full context:
Hama: The choice [to use bloodbending] is not yours. The power exists. And itâs your duty to use the gifts youâve been given to win this war. Katara, they tried to wipe us out, our entire culture, your mother.
Katara: I know.
Hama: Then you should understand what Iâm talking about. Weâre the last waterbenders of the Southern Tribe, we have to fight these people whenever we can, wherever they are, with any means necessary.
I find that so appalling because it is framing resistance, specifically anti-racist resistance, as barbaric and monstrous. And given the way that Hama is portrayed at this point, about as inhuman as anyone in ATLA, that is extra gross.
Finally, after Katara defeats Hama, she is lead away by the authorities in CHAINS.
So now the FN cops are the good authorities who weâre gonna trust a SWT waterbender with? I mean sheâs a villain so weâre probably not supposed to feel bad for her, like yeah sure the FN is usually bad but sheâs a criminal so itâs okay that they take a POW back into custody.
No, no, no.
I know I am reading into this far more than the writers intended - but thatâs kind of the point of critically engaging with media. Because shockingly writers donât always question their choices - they are people and have implicit biases just like all of us. When those writers come from a privileged culture that has colonized the culture they are using as âinspirationâ for their story, they need to be extra mindful of how they represent those people.
IV: How To Write Hama
Well, Iâm not gonna talk over indigenous fans on this one on specifics, and you should read this rewrite by @kispesanâ but my thoughts generally are:
lose the horror framing itâs just not right for this context and this character
donât frame Malcolm X as a villain because thatâs nasty and racist
have Katara learn to use bloodbending in ways that she is comfortable with (and not just like once in one episode where sheâs extra vengeful and the hero of the show doesnât approve of her actions JFC) and donât make the dark-skinned girl the only character whose special bending skill is dubious (I know she also has healing but still)
bring Hama home
have indigenous people in the writers room
Anyway, Iâve gone on wayyy too long. Let me know if I am speaking out of turn please if you feel that I am. and Iâm sure I had other thoughts but if you want to read some other good pieces of Hama meta, Iâve listed some below:
post and another post by @marsredsâ
this post and this post by @visibilityofcolorâ
this post by @shewhotellsstoriesâ
anyway katara is a queen and should have been allowed to heal, and hama never should have been irredeemable because if you can make iroh redeemable, if the show was going to redeem AZULA, you can make hama redeemable.
#hama#racism#atla fandom#fandom racism#katara#some amazing people on here who i hope don't get mad i mentioned them#grooming tw#racism tw#i sure hope i remembered everything i wanted to say butttt
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Daredevil scenes / plot points you would have done differently? (I get a suspicion a lot of them have to do with the law stuff, Frank Castle's trial especially. đ )
Aaaaa I love this question! Warning: VERY long response:
DEFINITELY the Frank Castle trial. Man, it couldâve been SO GOOD. I have a lot of issues with it, obviously, but the main one is that Matt treating Frank as a hostile witness couldâve been amazing (character-driven, emotionally-charged, also at times hilarious), and we were ROBBED.
 I also wish Matt couldâve been involved in more trial prep. The show makes it seem almost like Mattâs skill is limited to courtroom antics, but charisma and the ability to think on your feet in the courtroom mean next to nothing if you havenât laid a foundation with good legal research and legal writing. I wouldâve loved it if the legal plotlines showed us more of that. Like, you know Matt and Karenâs date night in S2 where she helps him come up with witness questions? I wouldâve loved it if: a) theyâd gotten, like, ANY part of that scene correct from a legal standpoint, and b) if we couldâve gotten MORE. I know that kind of thing might seem boring, but I donât think it would be. You can really show off charactersâ personalities in that kind of environment, and then the audience gets the reward of seeing that hard work pay off at trial.
 Speaking of, I know weâve talked before about S3 splitting everyone up. I still think that couldâve maybe been worth it if weâd gotten a S4 where we could see how everyone learned from how disastrous the S3 isolation was, but without S4, everyoneâs isolation in S3 is really unfortunate. I wouldâve loved to see Nelson, Murdock, and Page working together for at least half of the season, instead of just the last 3-ish episodes. It wouldâve been fascinating to watch, since Matt would still not be in a great headspace, and Karen would still be hurt, and Foggy would be just Trying To Deal with his idiot best friends. (But since we donât have that, at least we have my S3 canon-divergent retelling thing: Take A Deep Breath â shameless plug.)
 I also wouldâve generally kept the stakes lower in S2 and S3. I think you agree with me that both seasons wouldâve been more powerful if weâd had more lower-level villains. But one of my favorite things about S1 is that we get to know the people who are at stake. Unlike in the Avengers where itâs just âthe worldâ or âNew Yorkâ or something, S1 showed us a little boy who wanted to go back to his dad, and Elena, and that one juror who was being exploited, and Melvin, and even a bad guy like Vladimir, and theyâre ALL sympathetic. We really understand who Mattâs fighting for, but with the exception of Grotto, Jasper Evans, and Julie Barnes, I donât feel like we really get that in S2 and S3.
 Related: our S2 ninjas needed a clearer motivation. (That goes for Defenders, too.) Imo, they needed personal stakes. Fiskâs mission to clean up Hellâs Kitchen was personal. Frankâs mission to take out bad guys was personal. Everything about Elektra was personal. Dexâs desperate attempt to find a place for himself and find people who care about him was VERY personal. But the Hand? Not personal at all.
 With ElektraâŚIâm torn. Part of me really wishes Matt couldâve told her no and maintained his boundaries all along, because a) I hate love-triangle-type drama and drama that could be resolved if people just stopped keeping secrets, and b) it wouldâve been so refreshing to see the femme fatal trope subverted, and c) it wouldâve given Elektra more agency. That being saidâŚthat might be veering too far away from comics canon. Matt is canonically a disaster with relationships, and he and Elektra have this wholeâŚepicâŚmagneticâŚthing. I personally would argue that the show isnât beholden to the canon in this specific way, but I can see how people would be upset if Matt and Elektra hadnât turned out the way they did in S2.
 I wouldâve liked Marci to have a smidge more character development. She was so sweet and supportive in S3and I donâtâŚquiteâŚknow where that came from? Oh, well.
 Speaking of character development: I wish Matt and Foggy couldâve had some real conversations. Aside from when Foggy found Matt at the gym in S1 and they talked about moving forward, I donât feel like they had deep conversations that werenât arguments. Mattâs S3 apology is good, but I wouldâve loved to see Foggy apologize for how he contributed to the problems in their friendship. I also wish we couldâve seen Foggy explicitly thank Matt for, yâknowâŚSAVING HIS LIFE.
 As for Karen, I wish her revelation scene to Matt had been more about HER. It says a lot about how selfless she is that she used her own pain to try to convince Matt not to kill Fisk. But even though I know Mattâs super depressed and everything, I wouldâve loved to see him put his own angsty issues aside for a sec and just be there for his friend and the woman he loves. Even the fact that she is the one who crosses the room to be close to him is telling; he shouldâve gone over to her when she started crying and been there for her.
 Although if Iâm talking about Mattâs romantic relationships, I wouldnât have minded if the show went a Clairedevil route. Although that would require A LOT. I do wish, if Iâm being really fanciful, that we couldâve seen Claire in S3. Or, at minimum, seen Matt and Claire interact in Defenders.
 FATHER LANTOM TELLING MATT THAT GUILT IS A SIGN THAT HIS WORK IS NOT DONE. I cannot with that scene. I love Father Lantom, but that? Really? I mean, I get it. Thatâs a common way that Catholic doctrine is interpreted, and itâs what Matt basically wants to hear anyway, but it is SUCH a dangerous thing to tell Matt (and I feel like Father Lantom shouldâve known that???) and itâs also, as I understand it, not even the technically correct Catholic interpretation of guilt. Like, thatâs literally not what guilt is or how itâs supposed to work. (Although who knows. Iâm not Catholic, and as I understand it, Catholics themselves vary a lot in their interpretations of doctrine. So idk.) If I were writing that scene, I would definitely not have written Father Lantom to say that.
 On the religious theme, I wish S3 had circled back to Mattâs original objections related to the book of Job. He gets quite a few things wrong in his recap, and Iâm not sure if Maggie didnât correct him because she didnât know better, or because she didnât think a Biblical literacy lecture was what he needed at the moment, OR because the writers couldnât be bothered to read the book. (In fairnessâŚitâs a long and complicated book. But they couldnât have been bothered to read a commentary on it?) I wish S3 had not stopped at giving Matt an abstract tapestry analogy to heal his faith when it also shouldâve addressed his specific complaints.
I wish weâd had more time to see Matt and Maggie repair their relationship, or start to. And I wish sheâd hugged him at Literally Any Point.
I wish the whole Matt-hallucinating thing had been clearer. Was he actually hallucinating? Or was that just his internal monologue manifested through other characters? If he was hallucinating, did he just...stop? Is he not freaked out about that? What was going on????
Oh, and if only they couldâve gotten Dexâs psychological diagnosis right.
 Other than that, there are a couple scenes that I feel like drag on way too long (S3 especially has an odd amount of monologues that generally strike me as OOC anywayâexcept with Fisk; heâs just Like That) but I donât want to go into all of them. It would be hypocritical, given how long this reply is. :P
 So yeah, I think Iâll stop there, although Iâm sure thereâs more, haha. Thank you again for the ask and the excuse to ramble about Daredevil! I look forward to your thoughts as well.
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Heya, absolutely love your writing!đI was just wondering when you have the time and all, would you consider writing something about rowaelin where basically the same thing happens to Aelin as it did Lyria, but only modern au (Lyria never happened).
Thanks so much, it means a lot that you like my stuff! Thanks for the prompt. It kinda got away from me⌠I got in pretty deep with plot points and stuff, haha.  Based on Characters from the Throne of Glass series.
Warning: donât let the first half fool you, thereâs gonna be tears and pain.
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All My Love
It started at seven fifty-nine on a Friday night.
Rowan Whitethorn was hurrying through the City Park cursing at the crowds of people standing in his way. He should have remembered that the city tradition of open mike night at the gazebo by the waterfront would have made the park nearly impassible. But did people have to stand so close together?
Heâd gotten of late from his at the police station and was a short walk away from his small apartment. Or what would have been short had the park not been infested with tourists and and locals alike.
The sun barely began its descent leaving the sky graced with gold and hues of pink. Heat from the record high day lingered, despite being so near the lake. Normally Rowan might enjoy the view, but there were too many people invading his space. At least he could be happy that he wasnât assigned the shift to make sure things didnât get out of hand.
He moved down the stone path that cut behind the gazebo and took a shortcut back to his apartment. As he dodged a running child, however, something caught his attention.
Actually, it was someone.
She stood in the center of the gazebo; her long and willowy limbs were leaning against a white piano while she laughed at something her companion said. Her long, golden hair swept down her back in soft waves. Even a distance he could tell she was beautiful. The woman patted her friend on the shoulder and moved to sit at the piano. And then she started to play.
The notes were slow, soft, gentle. A tune tumbling forth with careful measure. The song wasnât one Rowan recognized, granted he knew next to nothing about music. Yet the longer Rowan listened the more entranced he became by the song. Slowly, he picked his way around the gazebo so he had a better angle on the woman as she played.
The sight was indescribable. In all honesty, it looked like the woman had become one with the music. She moved with each caress of the ivory keys as though she herself were dancing to the song. Her eyes shut softly and an easy smile moved across her sinful mouth.
It was glorious.
When the end of the song regretfully came, the park erupted into cheers and applause. A man came forward and began speaking into a microphone setup.
âThe ever wonderful, Aelin Galathynius,â the man called out, his words were eaten by another round of applause.
Aelin. Aelin. Aelin.
She offered the crowd a dazzling smile as she politely declined to play another song. A small band replaced her, three guys and a rustic looking guitar.
Rowan watched as she descended the small steps to the gazebo. She greeted a few people with a wave or a pat on the shoulder. All too soon, in Rowanâs opinion at least, she was forgotten to the new beats of a guitar and low gravely notes of the singer on stage.
There was something about her that called to him. Rowan didnât know what it was exactly, but his eyes easily tracked her as she moved up the path that led away from the gazebo and up a boardwalk that wrapped around the lake. Before he could think twice about what he was doing, Rowan followed her.
He caught up easily to her and his steps on the wooden planks caused her to turn around and meet his gaze. Her wide blue and gold eyes snagged him immediately and Rowan wouldnât have minded drowning in them.
A slow smile slid on her lips as she eyed him. âHello.â
She was confident. With that smile. With that word. With that stare. And Rowan found himself dumbfounded.
âYou donât usually play on open mike nights,â he said.
Aelin quirked an eyebrow. âYou sound certain of that.â
âI would have remembered,â he replied.
She laughed and rolled her eyes as if his words didnât mean anything. But Rowan noted the soft blush rising on her cheeks. She was flattered. Slightly uncomfortable, but that could have been from performing in front of a crown. Everything else about her welcomed his advances and Rowan took care to read each and every signal she sent him.
âDorian forced me into it,â she said, âtold me it would be good business for the shop.â
The way she casually referenced the mayor didnât go unnoticed to Rowan, but he found himself more intrigued by the second part of her sentence.Â
âShop?â Â
âQueenâs Place,â Aelin replied, âmy bookshop. And where I teach piano lessons.â
Rowan found himself smiling at the image of her moving through a bookshop, of her sitting with children at a piano bench, at that smile brightening everyoneâs day. Â
âI walk by it every day,â he said. He wasnât lying, but to be honest heâd never given the shop a second glance. What a fool heâd been.
âWell, now you have a reason to actually come in.â Â
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Waking up beside her was the one thing Rowan knew he would want to do for the rest of his life.
Curled on her side with her legs tangled in his sheets, Aelin slept soundly. Her hair was a mess and that was entirely his fault. As were the growing marks on her neck, her collar bone, lower, lower they descended. Â
Leaning up on an elbow, Rowan watched her sleep as the early gray light of morning filtered through his bedroom window. She didnât stir. He watched the rise and fall of her chest, how her eyelids fluttered, and the slight pucker of her lips. Â
Those sinful lips.
Rowan reached a hand out and gently brushed her hair out of her face. Â
They hadnât been together very long. Not when you considered how often Rowan worked and the fact that Aelin ran her own business. They were often like ships in the night. But each time they passed by Rowan was filled with inexplicable joy.
Aelin sighed softly and reached a hand out. Rowan captured her hand with his and brought her fingertips to his lips, kissing softly. A slow, lazy smile spread on Aelinâs mouth and she cracked an eye open.
âAre you watching me?â she asked.
âNaturally,â he said. He grinned as she scrunched her nose and grumbled. When she tried to regain her hand, he tightened his grip and pulled her closer to him.
Humming happily, Aelin tilted her head up to accept a kiss. A long, deep kiss to be sure.
âI love this,â she murmured against his lips.
âWhat?â he asked, his hands trailing down her bare sides.
âWaking up with you,â she said. She threaded her fingers in his hair as she pressed closer to him. âMornings like this.â
It was the closest theyâd ever come to admitting their feelings. Even though Rowan was certain he was in love with her. He had been from the moment he saw her in the gazebo playing the piano. He wanted to tell her of course. Wanted her to know. But he also knew what was keeping him from doing so.
His phone buzzed on the bedside table and Aelin cursed into his mouth. Rowan swallowed the word, absorbing the disappointment it held before pulling away to check the message.
âWork,â he said.
âI know.â
Rowan looked down at her with her eyes closed and hair a halo on the pillow. He wanted more than anything to make sure heâd always wake up beside her.
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Maeve Valg was not the kind of person Rowan wanted to work for. It took him a long time before he figured out what it was about her that made him so uneasy. She was driven, dead strong, passionate--all good things. It took him entirely too long to see her cruelty, her pride, her bloodlust.
âAll Iâm saying Detective,â Maeve said as she leaned across his desk toward him, âis that your skills and specialties are remarkable. Youâd make a difference to your country if youâd consider my offer.â
Rowan stared at the woman. She had to be in her mid to late thirties--and yet her long dark hair framed a youthful face, full red lips, and devilish eyes. This was the third time in as many months that Maeve had tried to recruit him for her independent security agency. Mostly because his former sergeant Gavriel--damn him--had recommended Rowan for the position.
âIâll think about it,â Rowan lied.
In all honesty, right now was not a good time to even consider changing jobs. Not when there was a ring burning a hole in the side table of his dresser. Not when heâd spent the last four months convincing Aelin to move in with him. Not when heâd just left her side barely an hour ago and he was already craving her touch, her taste, everything about her.
It wasnât until later that night when Rowan met Aelin at that fateful gazebo that he was finally able to push all thoughts of Maeve aside. When he was finally able to smile freely at the sight of her in a pale blue dress that clung to each and every one of her curves.
âHey,â she said as he approached.
Whatever else sheâd been about to say was cut off when he pulled her into a kiss. His mouth slanted almost urgently against hers and he couldnât help the way his finger dug into her waist desperately.
âHey,â he said when he finally pulled back.
Aelin grinned wickedly and he knew she was thinking about breaking into the nearest boathouse to continue that kiss. But all too suddenly her expression turned serious.
âWhat?â Rowan asked, heart stilling.
âWhy didnât you tell me?â she asked.
Rowan froze, terrified that she knew about the ring. âI donât--â
âLorcan told me about Maeve,â Aelin continued. She rested a hand on his cheek. âRowan...that job sounds amazing.â
Blinking, Rowan fought against the rising panic in his gut. He really wanted to find Lorcan and beat his ass, but he was also concerned by what Aelin thought about it.
âIâm not taking it,â he said flatly.
Aelin scowled. âYes you are. Itâs higher pay for one. Better control over your work. Most of it sounds like a security detail.â
âIâm not taking it,â he repeated.
âBabe,â Aelin insisted, âit sounds like a great opportunity. Why not?â
Rowan shook his head and pulled away from her. This wasnât how he wanted to do this. Not really. But with the sharpness to her eyes, the determined tilt of her chin--he had to do it.
âBecause of you,â he whispered.
âDonât,â Aelin said, âdonât put this on me.â
Rowan reached out automatically and grabbed her hands tightly in his. âItâs always been because of you.â
And then he was down on one knee while fumbling in his pocket for the ring. Â
Aelin gasped and whispered his name.
Rowan looked up at her, the ring in his fingers and tears brimming in his eyes. âI first saw you here. And I knew then and there that I was going to love you for the rest of my life. If you let me. Aelin Galathynius, will you marry me?â
She let out a small strangled noise that was a cross between a sob and something else that Rowan couldnât decipher but the frantic bob of her head was enough for him to understand what the answer was.
âYes, yes, yes,â she whispered.
Rowan slid the ring on her finger and his lips on her mouth.
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When Rowan took the job he still wasnât sure about it. But most of his friends were on the crew along with two kids who had just come back from Pakistan. They were given weeks on end together to learn how they could become a team.
Aelin liked to joke that Rowan had gained five work wives now. Rowan tried to tell her she was wrong but his words held no meaning. Not when five out of seven days a week any of the boys in the crew ended up sleeping on the Whitethorn-Galathynius couch. Usually Fenrys.
Unfortunately those nights grew few and far between as the year went on.
âHow does Aelin feel about you spending your honeymoon with us?â Connall asked through an earpiece as they stood stationed around Senator Erawanâs reelection fundraiser.
Rowan could hear the grin in his voice.
âYeah,â Fenrys added, âdidnât even have time to--â
âStop talking.â It was Gavriel who spoke this time. Rowan could see him across the hall walking behind the Senator and his wife. âEspecially about my niece.â
The twins cackled.
Rowan shook his head and contained a smile. As much as heâd been unsure about this job--it had given him some of the best friends he knew.
A gunshot rang out through the hall.
Immediately Rowan had his gun unholstered and turned to the source of the shot. Out of his peripheral vision he saw Gavriel and Vaughn cover the senator and his wife. Lorcan cursed over the comms.
âLost him!â
âGot it,â Rowan replied. Up on the second floor, a glass balcony overlooked the rest of the hall and a shape darted out of eyesight. Running to the nearest stairwell, Rowan instructed his team on what he saw.
âWait for backup,â Gavriel ordered, but Rowan was already gone.
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He arrived home three days later to a royally pissed off Aelin.
Rowan knew it was bad when he walked into the kitchen to find three perfectly frosted chocolate cakes sitting out of the counter. One had strawberries lining the top, another almonds, and the third a chocolate cookie crumble. He was utterly screwed.
âFireheart?â he called out hesitantly.
He heard the bathroom door shut down the hall and Aelin stalked toward him. Her hair was pulled into a messy bun and bright red splotches colored her cheeks. Tears rimmed her eyes.
âBaby,â Rowan said as he stepped toward her.
She shook her head and walked around him to the cakes. There was already a piece missing from the one with strawberries and she cut another piece off and flopped it on a plate. Â
âI am so mad at you,â she said as she stuffed a large bite in her mouth.
âI know,â Rowan replied.
âFenrys told me what you did. Gavriel told you to wait and you went charging after the man.â
âI know.â
âYou could have died.â
âI know.â
Aelin nearly broke the plate when she threw it down on the counter. Rowan stared into her brilliant eyes and waited for his next reprimand. âStop saying that.â
âAlright, Iâm sorry,â Rowan said quietly. He set his bag on the floor and crossed into the kitchen until he stood across from his wife. âWe both knew what the job entailed. And I had to catch the man.
âI was terrified Ro,â Aelin whispered. She ran her fingers beneath her eyes and sniffed loudly. âWe canât lose you.â
âI know,â he said, moving so he stood just before her. He was going to say something else when Aelinâs words caught up to him. âWe?â
Aelin let out a strangled laughing as fresh tears washed down her cheeks. She looked up into Rowanâs eyes, one hand going to her belly.
âWe.â
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Despite the chaos of his job and despite the chaos of his pregnant wife--Rowan Whitethorn knew that everything was going to work out in the end. Â
With Aelin being nearly eight months along, theyâd decided together that it would be best to start over. For Rowan to leave his risky job behind and find something closer to home. Theyâd both spent weeks thinking about it, talking to each other, and theyâd come to the same conclusion. They needed their family to stay together.
Of course, Maeve didnât understand why Rowan would want to leave. Not that he could make her understand. Not that any of them could. Even the rest of the team had understood the decision. Rowan needed his family.
âFine,â Maeve relented one day. She sat behind her desk looking absolutely bored one day. Running her hands over her desk she sighed. âIâll let you go, Rowan. But I just need you for one more job.â
Rowan stiffened at the sheer pleasure in her eyes of what was to come. She tossed a folder at him. He opened it and frowned.
Archer Flynn. Â
A high end hooker for hire. Known especially for sleeping with Senator Erawan.
âI need him arrested,â Maeve said. She sounded as though she were requesting he buy lettuce from the store.
Rowan continued staring at the picture of the man. âI thought we were keeping an eye on Cairn.â
âDonât worry about Cairn,â Maeve said. âMr. Flynn is far more troublesome. Besides, Cairn is going to be taken care of.â
Rowan didnât like the dismissive way that Maeve addressed him. Nor did he like the smile that rested on her lips.
âAnd just like that,â he said, â youâll let me end my contract?â
âAbsolutely,â Maeve promised.
For some reason, Rowan believed her.
He left with Lorcan the following day, assuring Aelin everything would be alright. It was only an arrest after all.
When he and Lorcan found the apartment that was serving as Flynnâs hideout, Rowan should have known something was wrong.
The door was broken in, wood splintered across the floor. A pool of blood was rapidly growing beneath a form tied to a chair. Rowan and Lorcan rushed to room to the young Archer Flynn. His blonde hair was plastered over his brow with a mix of sweat and blood. The stab wounds in his legs and side were less than ideal. Looking at all the manâs injuries, Rowan knew there was nothing that could be done for him.
âIâll call an ambulance,â Lorcan muttered while Rowan continued tending to Flynnâs wounds.
This wasnât right. This couldnât have been right.
When Flynn began to speak, Rowan almost thought it was the manâs dying breath.
âSâlied to me,â Flynn rasped, his words to muffled to understand, âto all of us.â
Rowan lifted the man's chin. âWhat are you talking about?â
âCairn was always the problem child,â Flynn whispered. And then with a final breath--Flynn died.
Rowan let Flynnâs head fall. What the hell was going on?
His phone rang in his pocket but he ignored it.
âLorcan, heâs dead,â Rowan called out. His phone continued ringing.
Lorcan reentered the room, phone pressed against his ear. The manâs dark eyes were wide and a frown deepened his already deep scowl.
âLorcan?â Rowan asked.
Clearing his throat, Lorcan shook his head. âWe gotta get back home.â
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Rowan had never liked hospitals.
They were death traps in his opinion. Everyone he loved would always go in and never come back out. So for the first time in a very long time, he found himself praying. Praying that for once, he would be wrong. That for once, something good would come of the hospital. That for once, he wouldnât be left alone.
âShe was stabbed multiple times in the chest,â a doctor said, âtheyâre working on her now. But you need to prepare yourself.â
They baby. What about the baby?
The words never left his lips. He couldnât bring them too. Or maybe he did say them and the doctor ignored him. Either way, Rowanâs mind was churning too much. Something had gone wrong.
âIt was Cairn,â Gavriel said from beside him.
Rowan had no idea when the man showed up but he didnât really care. He stared at a wall advertising things for sale and brochures for various recovery programs.
âHe got to her somehow.â
Maeve was supposed to take care of the man. Sheâd said so. Rowan didnât say the words aloud. They wouldnât do much good. Because as much as a bitch Maeve was, there was no way she could have predicted this. No way she could have known that Aelin would be dying.
And where had Rowan been? Off doing a damn job that didnât even need him.
It wasnât until three oâclock in the morning that Rowan learned that his wife was dead. The baby too.
It wasnât until three oâclock in the morning that Rowan allowed himself to cry. Silent tears.
It wasnât until three oâclock in the morning that Rowan heard the snip-snip of heels across linoleum. Echoing through the halls.
âOh, Rowan,â she crooned. âI am so, so sorry. You have to know I never imagined this to happen.â
âDo you know where he is?â Rowan asked.
Maeveâs brows shot in the air. âWhat?â
âCairn,â Rowan repeated, âdo you know where he is?â
A smile spread over Maeveâs cherry red lips. âI promise, I will help you find him. No matter what it takes.â
It wasnât until three oâclock in the morning that Rowan said good-bye to his wife and made one final vow to her.
He would never forget.
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Tbh I kind of hate how fandom has latched on to the Lazarus Pit wrt Jasonâs actions? Like despite having very little canon basis, itâs just so prevalent in fandom and fics, to the point where as far as fandom is concerned itâs become ubiquitous with the character, kind of like with baby stalker Tim or caffeine addict Tim. And it gets used as an excuse for his actions a lot, which I feel takes a lot of agency away from Jason. Like, sure, I can understand using Lazarus Pit madness as a contributing factor for like, the Battle for the Cowl nonsense and such, bc that was nuts and he was clearly unstable/OOC. But itâs used as a way to distance him from his actions and make it easier for the family to bring him back into the fold, which I get! True reconciliation with Jason as is would take a lot of work on the writerâs part, and I completely understand not wanting to get into all that. But I just feel like itâs a disservice to Jasonâs core character. Heâs someone with conviction and commitment. He believes his way is better than Bruceâs, and I feel like contributing that to Lazarus Pit madness, at least past a certain extent, undermines his character and takes away his agency and free will. Also, Iâm ashamed to say itâs just while I was writing this that I had this epiphany as more than just a fleeting thought, but we can explain his Battle for the Cowl-era actions without the âPit Madnessâ, bc mental illness is actually a real thing even without the Lazarus Pit
Oh I totally agree.
The thing is... while sure itâs nice in an ideal world and I know fanfic in general is a lot of wish fulfillment, realistically as he has ever existed in canon (especially pre-reboot) Jason âfitting inâ to the batfam is basically impossible without altering core things about him. And I think adding in âreoccurring lazarus pit madnessâ as a way to rationalize his worst actions is the most common alteration, because as you said it distances him from some of his actions.Â
Some rambling thoughts on this under the cut just looking at some Jason Moments⢠but the main point I guess iâm making here is that taking away his agency kinda sucks because he is really interesting on his own
Jason, again particularly in preboot where he was at odds with the fam more constantly, is written very inconsistently and I think anyone would agree on that. He teeters on that line between Villain and Anti-hero. But no matter what in either of those positions, he is still having core differing ideals from the Bats, and that is not a result of the lazarus pits, that is a result of his life (and, well, death) experience.
Under the Red Hood (& Hush & that Teen Titans issue heâs in where he attacks Tim, so his earliest things after coming back) I think should always be interpreted as him acting more as a villain, because it is a revenge plot, itâs him acting out, itâs the result of every pent up feeling he had because of the circumstances of his death and how he felt he wasnât properly avenged thus was unloved. Lost Days shows the foundation for that, but Lost Days also shows us that deep down in his core he still has a lot of heroic ideals, which is why when heâs not fueled by a need for revenge I think heâs best written as an Anti-Hero. When Jason sees people who are innocent (like the kids in that arc in Lost days) he is going to save them, he is going to be someone who stands up for those people. He is just willing to do any bad things he might need to in the process, he has sacrificed the more âheroicâ methods because he knows firsthand how they can still fail.
But honestly, after that point of crazy revenge schemes up until probably Battle For The Cowl where it all goes suuuper downhill, he falls way more in Anti-hero territory imo! Like, for example:
The Nightwing story with Tentacle Jason! (Nightwing (1996) #118-122)
Thinking about it aside from the sheer ridiculousness of the ending for a second, he expresses constantly in that story that he wants to be closer to Dick, he wants to work with him, because he does want to be a hero of a sort, he just thinks lethal methods are necessary. But that story was about him not wanting to be entirely isolated from the family. This is a Jason who is an anti-hero, heâs killing people because he thinks itâs necessary, not because heâs being driven crazy by a lazarus pit.
Then like, the Green Arrow story (Green Arrow (2001 #69-72)Â
He kidnaps Mia to try to recruit her. Heâs not just being âevilâ he is trying to make the tough calls and do things the rest of the general âheroâ community wonât do because itâs what he deems necessary, and heâs trying to convince her that she should do it too. It doesnât make him right, or anything like that, but there is a logic to what heâs doing. Itâs not âmadnessâ.
Then like, he helps Dick out by giving him information on Black Lightning in the Outsiders! Because Black Lightning was innocent and Jason figured he may as well let Dick know what he knew. Countdown is a little bit of a mixed bag just because the event itself is kinda a mess but like, overall Jason cared about Donna and Kyle during it and while he was definitely the âblack sheepâ of the group he still helped until it just became too much for him and he needed to peace out. But like, dude finally had gotten to a world where a version of Bruce had avenged him like heâd always wanted his Bruce to, and then he had to watch that Bruce get murdered in front of him. I can understand wanting to step away from the super scene for a bit after that! Thatâs not gonna put im in a great place mentally.
And then putting Bruceâs actual death in the main time during Final Crisis on top of it? NO SHIT HE WAS UNSTABLE DURING BATTLE FOR THE COWL. And like, even though itâs not fully justified reasoning, even BftC does show that something set Jason off. It was a tipping point:
(Battle For The Cowl #3)
It was still badly written Jason, but you can definitely start to explain it with literal just... instability because of trauma, unaddressed mental illness, etc, etc, you donât need to say it was because he was dunked in the pit! Because that really does take away the responsibility he has over his own actions.Â
Just... while itâs a fun idea to play with a Jason who can be an integrated part of the family, if youâre going to do it base it more on his current canon version where he has been shown to be willing to make compromises (rubber bullets) to be accepted because he is placing his need to be accepted by his family over his actual ideals at some points. This is honestly one of the biggest key differences between his pre-reboot version and his New 52 (especially Rebirth) and on version.
Pre reboot canon Jason wouldnât do that. He absolutely would not. Not that he wants to be isolated from his family, (bc think about like not only the Nightwing stuff above, but there are TWO instances he reaches out to Tim, yes one of them is in BftC which ya know is a mess but he also does at the end of Timâs Robin run before that!) He doesnât even really hate them (ok he hates Dick in the way you hate your cool well-liked older brother but thatâs different) but if he sees them as standing in his way he will take them down and stand against them. He is so deeply seated in what he believes is the right way to find justice, and they are not going to pull him out of it.
Blaming his actions that are rooted in his ideals on an outside factor like pit madness is definitely cheapening him as a character.Â
ALSO side tangent but people who base things in preboot with Jason almost never even bring up Sasha and that just makes me sad. Like. Come on! He cares about that kid a ton! Sure Morrisonâs version of Jason was also a mess, but the ending bit where he even does work with Dick & Damian to save her?? Winick had taken over writing by that point so itâs already a better characterization of him.
And this next bit also gets down to kinda the core of the matter: Heâs willing to work with them as long as they let him do his thing, itâs just that they are not willing to work with him if heâs going to kill. And heâs not willing to fully compromise that longterm.Â
(Batman and Robin (2009) #25)
Using a lazarus pit as an out for his actions and thus acting like he didnât choose to continue a lot of the killing (without an outside influence) changes his motivation, and creates a version of Jason who probably would compromise like that. But thatâs not... how he actually was, in pre-reboot especially.
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