#it doesn't even seem like jokes it's just mean?

[itzpookiepooh]

I didnt know you did requestss, I love your writing so much! if it's not too much trouble, I'd love to see you write the guys' reaction to an mc who's just comically clueless? doesn't catch hints, and flirting goes over the head. even when they've already stablished a relationship, they still doesn't see it coming when the guys want a kiss or more and it always makes mc freeze for a sec like "ooh" and it's just funny. the lis have to very direct, its like mc is on loading screen 99% of the time lmao sorry if its complicated or too specific

Oh, Me!

Thank you so much! I got you don’t worry!

Caleb loves you he swears he does but you were just so clueless. Any advance he try you would not understand at all. He tried to kiss you you’d coincidentally move out of the way. If he tried to flirt you would laugh it off as if he was cracking a joke. Today he was planning on asking you out and everything had to be perfect…for his sake.

He set out a perfect dinner and wondered how to come about everything. You were ready to eat, you had been hungry all day especially since Caleb insisted that you don’t fill up on anything. You tapped your finger on the table waiting for the food to get here. Caleb was nervous practically sweating bullets.

“Hey pipsqueak…” He trails off placing a hand on the table. You turn to him fluttering your lashes with big clueless eyes.

“What’s up?” You ask, he gulps before answering, “I like you. I mean really like you.” His voice shaky with nerves.

“Well I’d hope so we grew up together.” You laugh and tap his hand playfully. He sighs, there you go again.

“No like I really like you like I want to be with you.” He explains both elbows now on the table as he does so. You blink at him still not getting it. Are you not together right now?

A dramatic sigh leaves Caleb as he leans back dramatically in his seat. He throws himself forward and grabs your hands.

“I want you to be my girlfriend.” He says bluntly. You chuckle before answering, “Oh I get it. You’re practicing!” She taps the said of her head and makes a duh motion with her mouth.

Caleb wanted to pull his hair out. You were so…special. So clueless and yet so smart at the same time. He could only blame himself for this because he asked you last week but the way he asked made it seem like he was practicing on you. He grabbed your cheeks making you look at him.

“I like you, love you. I want you to be my girlfriend. I’m real life right now.” He emphasizes making your eyes go wide as if you just figured out a worldwide mystery.

“Oh! Yes of course.” You answered making him sigh in relief. Finally!

Zayne is use to you being mildly confused. It was what ultimately drew him to you other than your caring nature. Him telling you he wanted to be with you was one thing but now he had to go through the process again. He sighed at the thought but it was worth it in the end.

So on a walk, hand in hand, he took a deep breath. This was it. You were enjoying the scenery around you as the quiet evening sky fell over you. The sunset painting the sky beautifully. He admired you as he holds your hand tighter.

“I want to tell you something.” His usual low tone flows through your ears. You look up at him with hopeful eyes.

“I want to take a step toward our future.” He tells you as you glance at him occasionally.

“Like getting a dog! I’ve always wanted a dog!” You excitedly bounce holding his hand to your chest. He blinks before shaking his head at how you threw him off.

“No I want us to be closer.” He tells you as you continue to walk. You think to yourself before snapping.

“Like getting a smaller bed!” You chuckle as if you were the brightest crayon in the box. He sighs, pinching the bridge of his nose.

“I want us to move in together.” He tells you bluntly. You squeal in excitement, “Like roommates!”

“Why would we be roommates?” He pauses to question you. Why wouldn’t you be roommates? That’s literally what two people moving in are like!

“Because we live together….” You both just stare at each other.

“I’m your boyfriend.” He states the obvious. You nod firmly. “Exactly like roommates version.” You agree.

“Oh my gosh.” He pinches the bridge of his nose and sighs.

Rafayel was on the verge of pulling his hair out. He had been flirting with you all day and you were just not catching on. If he could pull his eyeballs out he would. He called you cute and you said thank you and complimented him back. Fine, whatever. He wrapped his arm around you during the movie and you scooted over thinking you were in his way. He kissed the icing off your face and you told him he could’ve just used a napkin so he wouldn’t get dirty. He couldn’t win.

“How clueless are you?” He asks you on the cusp of irritation. You tilt your head confused on why he asked.

“I’m not.” You tell him. He huffs narrowing his eyes at you.

“I’ve been flirting with you all day and you haven’t noticed me ONCE!” He complains slamming his hands on the bed.

“Really? When?” You ask him as he names off every instance today. “That was you flirting?” He felt a pang in his chest.

“Are you playing with me or something?” He deadpans but you were so very serious.

“Nope sorry.” You tell him as he pouts. He gets up and kisses you putting you in a daze.

“I’ve wanted a kiss this whole time.” He pouts holding your cheeks.

You blink slowly at him before nodding, “Noted.”

Sylus is such a sweetheart. A patient, loving, sweetheart. You were so clueless to his advances and it was kind of funny to him he won’t lie. He flirts with you and you take it literally. It made him and the twins laugh so hard to the point of tears.

You walked by him as he was reading and he decided to test you. He knew how you’d react and that was the fun in it. You were going out for the afternoon and were fixing your jeans.

“Do you have any room in your jeans for me, sweetie?” He smirks at you putting down his book. You raise an eyebrow at him. Of course you didn’t these were already tight as is.

“No? Why would you want to wear these with me in them?” You replied genuinely confused what his problem was.

The twins were wheezing from the doorway. You were always like this. They didn’t know if you were joking at first but now they know you’re dead serious. You look at them with your hands on your hips, concerned. What was so funny?

“What?” You didn’t appreciate being laughed at. You wanted to get the joke.

“Sweetie I’m flirting.” Sylus tells you through his laughter. A lightbulb goes off as your mouth makes an ‘O’.

“Oh…sorry.” You sheepishly replied. Sylus didn’t mind he thought you were hilarious.

You and Xavier are the same amount of aloof and everyone knows it. Xavier was subtly trying to flirt and you were not getting it. He thought he was pretty smooth though even if you didn’t get it. You were dressed up nice already for your date. Xavier couldn’t take his eyes off of you, he wanted to ravish you.

“You look beautiful.” He complimented you making you get shy. You wave him off, “Thanks.” His eyes grow dark as he thought of what to say next.

“It would look even better on the bedroom floor.” He smirks at you making you freeze and stare at him.

“What?” You raise your eyebrow. He smiles softly at you as if he didn’t say anything.

“I said it would look even better on the bedroom floor.” He repeated making you stare at him blankly.

“I don’t get it. Why would I do that? That’s making a mess.” You tell him crossing your arms. He chuckles before walking up to you and whispering in your ear.

“Oh! Xavier don’t be nasty!” You smack his arm making him fall out laughing. You were flustered the rest of the night because he kept flirting with you.

This took a minute but aye I hope I got it right 😅

[therainscene]

Gonna be a bit of a buzzkill here, but: I think what annoys me about Ted's been casually assuming that Mike was dating Will this whole time theories is that they always tend to treat it as a fun outcome.

Like, I get it: Ted's the useless one-dimensional suburban dad who makes bland observations he thinks are insightful quips, and he hasn't had much of a character arc beyond getting dragged along for the ride his more three-dimensional wife is on -- so what is there for him to do, really, other than to delight us with one final, genuinely insightful joke that subverts our expectations but makes perfect sense in hindsight?

But I feel like this would essentially make him one of those "allies" whose egos are more important to them than actually being supportive, and so they make smug jokes about how accepting they are at the expense of their kids' fear of rejection:

"I hate my gay son! Oh, not because he's gay, he's just an asshole." 🤭 "Why are you telling me you're gay? I figured that out years ago. Stop crying and go help your mother with the dishes." 🙄 etc.

It wouldn't be out of character for Ted to do this. I can totally see him doing it! But it's out of character for the show to make light of queer struggles, so I'd expect it to be critical of Ted for doing this.

Often, parents like the ones described above really do mean well, but they just don't know what they're supposed to do other than try to keep treating their kid the same as if they were straight. Lots of parents struggle with that; I'd argue even Joyce does in S3:

Will's clearly experiencing a specifically queer difficulty here -- boys like him aren't allowed to fall in love and he's upset about having to watch straight people openly enjoy things he thinks he'll never have -- and that apparently sails over Joyce's head. She just smiles at her Silly Immature Boy Who Doesn't Get The Appeal Of Sex Yet and drops the topic.

[Edit: To be clear, Joyce knows he's gay and is explicitly showing support for gay love here. She just has a blind spot when it comes to the gay teen experience.]

It's a disappointing change in her approach from the first two seasons, in which she fought her ass off to understand and advocate for his needs, even when communication seemed nigh impossible.

But then, maybe S3 is about granting Will his S2 wish to not be coddled by his mom anymore.

The Jonwill heart-to-heart at the end of S4 is my favourite scene in the whole show, because it's a pitch-perfect demonstration of how to balance closeted queer kids' need for support against their need to handle things on their own terms, all without embarrassing them by showing your hand of Already Knowing.

Maybe you're thinking: didn't Karen do exactly this with Mike all the way back in S1?

[Literally hiding his future beard in his closet during this convo lol 10/10 queer-coding]

Well, no. The point I made in my previous Wheeler analysis still applies: Karen, as of S1, is too prone to trusting dangerous authorities over her own kids -- and so her words ring hollow. She means well, but deep down she's prioritizing her need to feel like a good mother over putting any real effort into figuring out what Mike needs: reassurance that he and his flock of outcast friends will be safe if he's open with her.

The key thing Jonathan gets right is to understand his brother well enough to directly address the underlying fear that's been preventing Will from opening up:

So if Ted's sole contribution to Mike's queer arc ends up being a reveal that he's always known and been too cool to blab to anyone, but also that he did nothing about it other than to smugly wait for Mike to come out...?

...I just think that would feel more tragic than funny.

[subrosasteath]

Me (lovingly) at all the people who fully believed Coiny went back to normal this episode

Like... Okay let's break this down. Break down beneath the cut as it's long! Spoilers for BFDIA 19.

The first shot of the episode is Coiny hiding his face at the bottom of the stairs. It's obviously supposed to set up how he's feeling this episode, although later he plays it off as a joke, saying he was "napping" and moving right into being over dramatic about missing Cake at Stake. If you believe him, this set up now becomes a joke.

If you don't this set up now becomes a way to show the audience how he's feeling inside, as he doesn't seem to want to outright say or show any animosity towards Pin, especially in front of the other contests. Pin even expresses confusion the first time they talk because the first thing Coiny does is compliment her - saying "nice find!" about the new host. The fact they make her look confused at all is a hint in and of itself that we should be doubting how Coiny's acting right now - yes, it also works for her character, as she obviously didn't expect him to want to positively interact with her, but the emphasis on the confusion should nudge the viewers to think "hey.. wait a minute..."

Another quick thing - Tennis ball says Coiny's been "isolating in the tower for a while now", not specifying how long, meaning it's possibly Coiny's been hiding out in there for much longer than "an afternoon nap" as he says.

Pin and Coiny don't interact again until the super market gag. When Coiny suggests the super market, and Pin accuses him of trying to trick her, Coiny says "would I ever lie to you?" to which Pin says "Yeah." Meaning It's possible Pin suspects Coiny of lying about how he feels. This is another hint to the audience - Pin is telling us that Coiny can be a liar and a trickster sometimes, and that we can't take everything he says at face value (Eg, How long was that afternoon nap, buddy?). This can also just be seen as a reference to the fact Coiny is a mischief maker, again, making it easy to write it off as him being his "normal self".

Pin goes in anyway - this could be seen as two things: Either she doesn't care if it's a trick or not (implying she doesn't view Coiny as a threat) or she knows it could be a trick, but seeing as he's not being antagonistic towards her so far, decides to trust him anyway (Coiny has never done Pin wrong before, why would he now?)

But Why? Why would Coiny offer Pin a huge giant super market?

I think It's possible he wanted to show her that he can still be helpful. They don't have to be allies, but he's still useful, and getting rid of him would be getting rid of a huge resource of support in the games. He wants Pin to see the value in him, so he offers her everything he can. Look, we don't have to be enemies! He's trying to convince her not to hurt him again, because look at everything he can give her! Isn't it worth it? ...Isn't it?

Or, it's possible he was setting her up, so that he could knock her down later. A taste of her own medicine, if you will. Coiny expected Pin to buy at least 2 things, both of which she'd need for her basket, only for him to swoop in and steal them from her after, putting them in his own basket and possibly winning the challenge. He wanted Pin to feel the betrayal. A metaphorical way of pushing her off the platform. A way to say See, this is how it felt, but now we're even and you understand me, so we can go back to normal, right?

I'm excited for what happens next episode - I wonder if we'll get a Coiny break down before or after Pin's inevitable elimination.

[certifiedsexed]

Is it normal to be extremely upset by teasing in a sexual context?

My boyfriend and I were mucking around, and he got really hard pretty quickly. I lightly made fun of him, said something along the lines of it’s so easy to turn you on. He like immediately got dead quiet and wouldn’t look at me. I apologised immediately upon realising that I’d hurt his feelings and said it really was just teasing. He kind of hugged me and he wasn’t mad or anything. But he didn’t want any sexual contact for the rest of the night, and he was on the verge of tears soon after.

This all rly surprised me because we tease each other a LOT outside of sex. I’m not asking bc I’m thinking it’s wrong that he doesn’t like teasing or bc I wanna force him to like it, but his reaction seemed... extreme? I really feel like something is amiss, but if this level of aversion is actually totally normal, I don’t wanna seem like I’m pushing him by saying I think this might have a deeper causation.

I did submit this to one other advice forum but they just answered that he has toxic masculinity and I’m a bad girlfriend?? which feels a stupid response but idrk.

Well, anyone can be upset by anything but it kinda depends on the person!

Some people are sensitive about their sexual abilities, some people have bad experiences with teasing [especially in a sexual context], some people are insecure about sex, things like that might make someone extremely upset depending on what type of teasing we're talking about.

It could even just be that he wasn't having a great day!

But bottom line is that if you feel like something is wrong and that he was really hurt by your comment, talk to him. You're partners but you can't read his mind.

Ask him if he's okay, ask him if he doesn't want you to tease him like that again-You could even ask him if there's a specific reason it hit him so hard. But communicate with him.

If he feels like you're pushing, he can say so but he can't communicate that boundary with you unless you ask him.

Also, there's nothing explicitly wrong with what you said and this doesn't mean he has "toxic masculinity".

You made a joking comment that you apologized for when you realized it hurt his feelings. He got hurt by a joking comment, which happens sometimes, even if we're not usually upset by joking comments.

There's nothing wrong with either of those things.

I don't know how helpful this is but talk to your boyfriend, I hope y'all figure it out. Let me know if you have any other questions. <3

[robinvomit]

I had a thought

I'm not sure if you've done this before, but how do you think the bat boys (oh any characters you want, idm really) would apologise if they genuinely hurt their gf's feelings? Maybe from a misworded comment or a bad argument

- Shiny

I am.. going to format this as quote responses, simply because I've been in this situation — accidental and straight up abusive — and, gifts and affection don't matter if the verbal response isn't sincere. + I am being affectionately bullied into adding other characters to things, so.. you're getting a whole circus with this. [ Amused that half of these people would need to be held at gunpoint to properly apologize— ]

Dick: Hey, no- I didn't mean it like that. That.. doesn't matter right now, though, I guess. Because I wasn't careful, you heard me say that.. whether I meant it that way or not. Yeah, I was tired but that's not an excuse, not when it leads to me making you feel small. I'll do better, I promise.. you should never be the one on the end of me having a rough day. I'm sorry.

Jason: Listen, I know I was an asshole. I wasn't great with saying what I wanted but that doesn't change what I said. But look, you matter so much it scares the shit out of me. I didn't.. mean to push you away and I'm sorry. I'll crawl through hell just to pull you back and make it up to you.

Tim: ..I.. was trying to make it about logic when you needed it to be about emotion. I replayed it in my head over twenty times, dissecting every single word I said wrong, the tone, all of it. I'm sorry- I didn't mean to minimize you or how you feel. The worst part is that.. I knew I was doing it and still let it happen. You didn't deserve that and I don't expect to be forgiven for it, but I'll work to earn your trust back.

Damian: I deeply regret the phrasing I chose. I do not regret speaking, but I do regret that it hurt you. Perhaps, I could have been gentler about it. I.. am still learning to hold things that are not sharp and you are the softest thing in my life, though that is no excuse. I was unable to protect you from myself and I apologize. It will not happen again.

Kon: Shit, okay. I messed up- I messed up, like, really bad. I don't even have an excuse, no reason, it just happened and I'm sorry. You looked at me like I just shattered the most precious thing on this planet- God, I never want to give you a reason to look at me that way again.. you shouldn't have had one to begin with. I'll fix it, I'll do everything to fix it. You mean more to me than some stupid thought I didn't even think about and I'm going to prove it.

Bart: I.. said something dumb, didn't I? No, that's not it. I said something mean, something I shouldn't have, and I didn't even notice until your face dropped. I hurt you and barely noticed until it was visible and I hate that. I hate the nasty feeling in my stomach and chest when you pull away- it's like everything is moving in slow motion. I'll.. try to think more before I speak, because you're too important to hurt just because my brain outruns my words.

Barry: I wasn't even looking at you when I said it, but I felt it. It felt like the room cracked open. I tried to fix it too fast, too easily, like I always do and that made it worse because it didn't seem sincere. I'm not trying to outrun it this time- you deserve so much better than thoughtless comments and I'll give you better. I promise. I'm so sorry for not thinking before opening my mouth.

Oliver: Look, love. I talk a lot of shit, I let my mouth overload my ass. I always have and maybe it's about time I met the consequences of that. I cut you down with something that was supposed to be a joke and a joke should never be at your expense; you're a lot more to me than something like that. I'm not even looking for forgiveness, just the chance to prove I'm able to change.

Clark: I didn't.. mean for it to come out that way. I always try to be careful and I wasn't with the one person who deserve it the most.. and that's not something I'm going to treat lightly. I'm not asking you to forget it or forgive me, but I do want to show you that I've never wanted to hurt you like that. Whether it was meant or not, that's how you felt it and that's.. not something I'm just going to brush off. I hurt the person I love and that's the worst failure I can think of.

Bruce: You are the only part of my life that let's me feel like a man above being a weapon and I spoke to you like you were a soldier.. not the person I love. This wasn't a mission, not something I needed to be in control of. I spoke like someone who is used to being obeyed, instead of someone who is loved and I'm sorry. I will spend every day showing you just how much I mean that.

Diana: I pride myself on doing things with honor, with grace.. but today I chose the wrong words and held none of that. I wounded you and it was not out of malice, but my failure to listen properly. I would rather stand and face the wrath of the Gods before ever being the reason of sorrow in your eyes again. I will make this right, if you will allow me to.

John: Yeah, I said it- yeah, it was cruel. But don't go thinking I didn't feel it the second it left my mouth. You've got this way of looking at me like I'm worth your time and that's a helluva thing, love, cause I'm not. It's not 'cause I want to push you away. It's cause you look at me like that and I'm scared shitless you'll finally see me beneath it and leave before I notice. Still, you didn't deserve that and if you walk, I'll get it- won't stop you. But, if you stay, forgiveness of not, I'll spend the rest of my miserable bloody existence trying to fix it and deserve you.

[i-willstealyourtoes]

hcs for spy, scout, n demo with a gn!reader who seems really harmless, silly, just a goober until blurting out something super unhinged/violent but then just like, keeps insistently acting friendly again (intentionally covering up capacity for actual competence by being cute??)

other details can be whatever you want, went with the mercs i thought would be more interesting with this prompt, hope things are fun for u!!!

Ooo yeah this does seem rlly fun!! I hope I did this one justice :) I decided to make it so Reader is some sort of co-worker (but not a merc), and the violent ideas aren't just for jokes >:)

Spy, Scout + Demo with Cute!Violent!Reader

Spy

At first, he didn't really like you that much when he saw how 'silly' you were

Why would he need any more idiots in his life?

But after a little while, he got used to your light-hearted fun, not necessarily hating you, but not really interacting with you either...

That was, until you started saying things.

Like casual promises of intense violence, followed with something of your usual gleeful attitude

Genuinely concerned for you. Are you??? Okay???

He's not sure if you're trying to prank him, if this is some sort of thing Scout set you up to do or you're just insane. He doesn't like any of those options.

But when he notices that the things you say aren't just weird jokes, he actually becomes a bit interested

Is this how you really are? Some kind of blood-thirsty person that hides behind a mask of smiles?

He starts to wonder if you actually act on these gruesome thoughts

So he decides to subtly test things out, intentionally ruining your day from the sidelines, to see if you'll snap

And eventually, you do, throwing a knife at Scout as he shrieks and runs away after having making fun of you one too many times

After that, he actually kind of likes you, especially since you are more capable of things than he initially thought

He might not be your friend, but he doesn't mind talking to you now, and he finds it amusing when people get shocked/scared when you say something bloody

Scout

Scout initially just thinks you're some cute co-worker he can flirt with

But when you start spouting a violent and unhinged suggestion of getting info out of a man, he freezes in partial amounts of disgust and horror (you know that one face he makes when he sees Zhanna and Soldier naked? Yeah.)

For at least a couple days, he's pretty spooked.

Are you always like this? Did you say it to prank him? Was this just a one time thing?

He might not talk to you for a little bit. He won't ignore you, but you can tell he's a little awkward around you from then on

There's a few ways to get him to be normal again.

Either he watches someone else get spooked and finds it funny, or you help him out with something because of your violent nature

Regardless of which one, he quickly realises that your bloodthirsty attitude is just as you as your cute one

It might still throw him off though, but he won't say much other than a "Dayum, chill (Y/n)!"

Other than that, he actually kind of finds it funny watching other strangers get scared if you say something/threaten them

It's free entertainment !!

He is just a little scared of you though... He definitely would not want to get on your bad side.

Demo

Takes a liking to your silly personality, and the two of you quickly become good friends !!

As for your sudden, random violent sayings?

It depends, really.

Either one: he does a double take and stares at you with furrowed brows and widened eyes

Or two: he doesn't react at all and just accepts it immediately

Even if it's the former, at most you get a simple ".....what?" before he eventually recovers and lets the situation go

Regardless, he actually really appreciates your capacity for violence, it means he doesn't feel pressure to steer from gruesome discussion

Originally, he wouldn't have talked to you about how he blew up a guy to pieces, but now he's happy to share all the disgusting details

Especially since you either find it amusing or have some story yourself

In fact, he might even take you to see his work, if you're down for it :)

Imagine: the two of you sitting on some seats watching as some poor unsuspecting opposite team member walks on a sticky and... you know the rest.

You two become a really good pair, not despite the occasional violent behaviors you possess, but because of them !!

The others might think you're a bit creepy, or even be a little scared of how you can switch between the two personalities, but Demo doesn't mind at all !

[macchiatosdumptruck]

Thoughts and analysis on how the female characters are written in Cobra Kai/the misogyny in the show overall?

Oooof, that's a big one lol.

It's so interesting to me because I feel like CK is two different shows. On one hand I actually kind of love how they wrote both Sam and Tory. They got to be messy teenagers, the same as the male cast. They get to be flawed and human.

I think it all goes back to Ali. In the movie Ali was strong and independent and didn't put up with Johnny (or Daniel's) bullshit. She was far from a passive character. She wasn't just the girl the boys were fighting for. When I first saw the show I was under the impression that she was the impetus behind Johnny and Daniel's "rivalry." That they were fighting over the girl they both loved and she was somehow in the middle passively.

She was not. Daniel and Johnny's issues are just classic bullying. Johnny doesn't need a reason to bully Daniel, because that's how bullies are. He uses Ali as a reason to take his anger and entitlement out on Daniel because that makes it seem more "fair."

Ali was never going to be interested in Johnny again. He was never going to "win" her. She made that clear. She was over him. He was harassing her. The recontextualization of all three of them being some sort of triangle instead of just two people wanting to date, with a random third butting in, was really a disservice to her character.

But that's the logic they show works by. It makes all of the aggression and fault seem mutual. And it's because giving Ali and Daniel some of the blame absolves Johnny of some of his. Ali is being treated as an object rather than a person. Even Johnny's obsession with her, while they try to make it seem genuinely sweet, comes off more as if he's emotionally stunted and clinging to the past.

So that's where we start with when it comes to how they write women. Then comes Amanda and she's great. She's smart and funny and beautiful and sassy. But she's also sort of used as a prop to further separate Daniel and Johnny's life experiences. Daniel has a hot wife. Johnny is single and doesn't talk to his ex. Etc.

Sam is an interesting character because she's believable. I feel like a lot of teen girls have gone through their "mean girl" phase. Although tbh, she was never really that mean. At worst she was complacent. She was raised loving karate, and to be strong and independent, and in her eyes she's rebelling by being more the cheerleader type. But s1 shows her realizing that her desire to fit in is misplaced. She's not actually happy.

I love how the show explores her anger. Her fear. Her courage.

"guys can fight and have it be no big deal, but when a girl does it we're crazy"

But then it subtly victim blames her by having the narrative reinforce that Tory assaulting her was somehow equivalent to Sam and Miguel's drunk kiss. Certain characters see it as it is, violent and tragic. Certain characters see it as only fair play. And ultimately it gets played down and turned into a "rivalry" similar to Johnny and Daniel's.

I think her arc is well handled. I think it shows her exploring her relationship with femininity, and the legacy of her father, well. She ultimately finds herself by embracing what she has in common with her father while also learning to accept their differences.

Also S1-2 has Aisha, who was SUCH a breath of fresh air as a female character. Especially for a teen. She was fat and a nerd (and don't tell me she and Sam didn't have a codependent gay thing going on) and was not treated as a punchline.

I love that moment when Miguel is hesitant to hit her because she's a girl, and his friend, and she takes No Mercy on Miguel and just drops him. Only for Johnny to be stunned at her level of badassery. I love how he didn't treat her any differently from her make counterparts.

and it came right after johnny said women have hollow bones. Lol

Which is obviously a silly joke. We, as the viewer, are expected to roll our eyes at that because we know it's ridiculous. And we can see Johnny start to unlearn the worst parts of his more conservative worldview.

So of course they got rid of her.

and Tory, Tory is just fascinating as a character. I don't think they knew what to do with her. She is introduced as a foil to Sam. Sam is more feminine (although saying Tory is "masculine" is quite a stretch), she is more soft, she comes from a well off family.

Tory is aggressive, poor, etc. she's the "bad girl" to Sam's "good girl."

She's angry and it's justifiable. She's flawed and it shows. She's empathetic.

(there's definitely something strange to say about how the writers have written her dealing with creepy male aggression multiple times to contrast her with Sam's "virtue" or whatever but that's an entire subtopic)

I think she's a great character. But people seem to think her past excuses her more violent behavior rather than explains it. It takes forever for her to genuinely say sorry. And I think that's not a flaw on her as a character, but shows how the writers view her actions as more justified, the same way they view Johnny's.

She at least got to realize her fault though, and work through that. I really like her and Robby actually. I think that Peyton is a great actress and really gives her depth. Her and Robbie's ending was bullshit.

Kumiko wasn't done too dirty by the writers. But I do wish she had more of an impact other than just being Daniel's lost love. The Okinawa subplot is more about Daniel and Chozen's progress rather than her own. She's sort of stagnant. She never moved on from Daniel. I love her, and I love her and Daniel and I think their joint scenes are some of the most beautiful in the entire show, but I think they kind of flattened her from the tomato throwing spit fire she was in the movie.

BUT ACTUALLY IM BIG MAD ABOUT HOW THEY NEVER EVEN BOTHERED TO GIVE HER A LAST NAME. (In the same season where they give literal war criminals empathetic back stories. Ang again. I love those war criminals. )

The worst by far is Carmen. R. I.P.

At first I did like her with Johnny in a sort of "opposites attract" kind of way. Because she DIDN'T just let him get away with his bullshit. She called him out on it. And she was one of the reasons for Johnny's (temporary) character development. She sees him as he is. A mess. But not a bad person.

I love how their relationship helps Johnny to (temporarily) work on getting his drinking more under control. And as a recovered alcoholic from a long family history of it, I thought that subplot was very accurately and empathetically written.

She was a character who was written around the men in her life, but she at least wasn't a doormat. Then the writers paired her up with Johnny for real and she just lost all of her personality? Suddenly he can get away with whatever? Suddenly she's just fine having a baby with an unemployed alcoholic?

I don't have much of an opinion on Yas and moon tbh. Moon is cute, while obviously meaning to be a bit of a stereotype. But I don't mind that much.

Yas I'm unsure on. I loved to hate her. She was the classic mean girl. And it did feel kinda good to see her having to deal with the consequences of her actions (Aisha being fed up with it finally and hitting back)

But I don't really buy that it would suddenly fix her from her bullying mentality. And I think it would've been great to see her struggle with trying to be a better person. Because being a good person is hard sometimes. She's not gonna pull a 180, and she didn't exactly. But we don't get to see her come to terms with the consequences of her bad behavior, and we don't get to see her actually understand wanting to be a better person.

I actually do think that Dimitri and Yas are cute in the "opposites attract" kinda way but I do NOT like how they used the nerd getting the hot girl as recompense. Like. Of course the nerd got the hot girl who used to be mean to him. Because that's what he deserves. She deserved to get humiliated and taken down a level while he claimed her as a prize.

Obviously it's not meant to be That Deep, but I feel like there was the opportunity for a very cute opposites attract type of romance and they just phoned it in because they think of women and girls as objects for men to win.

Ultimately it's so confusing tbh because it's like monkeys at a typewriter. Sometimes they come up with great shit. And we love to see it. But then it doesn't go very far. And we get to see through their overall treatment of women how they actually see women.

I genuinely did not plan on writing all of this but I started thinking and didn't stop and now it's probably a mess. ✌️

EDIT: I entirely forgot about Devon and Shannon but lemme just say that it is very telling that Shannon is essentially Johnny but a woman, (and tried harder to be a parent for Robby )and look at how they treated her

[winchestermysterymachine]

how did you become the winchesters shot of espresso?

Dean Winchester

there is nothing funnier than watching a man absolutely crumble to his feet for a woman. dean doesn't beg for anything. he has never once begged for his life to be spared, he won't even beg for a mercy kill. and he definitely won't beg to have sex with you, but he feels like if he doesn't, he'll explode. surely he's had the idea that he can go fuck someone else and you wouldn't even know, but that's cruel and he likes you too much. but aside from the sex, it's the way you can take control of any situation. he sees how you handle a guy like bobby. he's old, mean, wants what he wants. you're like the perfect girl, helping bobby around the house, doing the cleaning he'd never do. keeping the knives clean and sharpened, all herbs and bones separated. all dean has ever wanted, was a picture perfect home, and even though he's tricked himself into believing that won't ever happen, you are exactly what he's always wanted. someone to support him, to handle him. who will put up with his nonsense and keep him in check because dean's careless. dean knows he's careless, and if he had someone he cared about, maybe he'd care more. and that's exactly why he won't stop thinking about you. you are everything a real man should want. not just as a house wife, but as a partner, a friend, a lover. not someone who would just be a mother, even if neither of you had kids, or the picture perfect life, he'd still want you anyway. he can't sleep most nights, too excited about what the two of you are going to get up to during the weekend. will you go see a movie? sneak into a drive-in-theater like teenagers. get drunk at a bar? almost have sex on the bed or the couch or the back of his car? he calls every single day to check in. he lies, telling you that he's making sure bobby's doing okay, or asking you to have bobby look into some random mysterious monster the boys haven't come across before. dean doesn't get this way. he knows his life on this earth is limited, the hunters death is something that's followed him around since his teenage years like a plague and his worst thought, is dying and leaving you behind to clean up his mess. he tries to keep the dating to a minimum, only on the weekends, but he's an honest sucker for it. and the way you don't even seem to be bothered by his desire for you? oh you've got him messed up so bad. you don't care, or maybe you do, you just don't let him see it. but dean knows what he wants, and no one will stand in the way of it. the sound of your voice calms him down after a bad hunt to, he won't tell you, he'll just sit in the car silently, phone pressed to his ear as you yammer on about some tv show, a friend, bobby. it keeps reminding him that you're safe, and the more work he does, the more monsters he kills, the safer you are in this world. and if you're safe in this world, then maybe, just maybe, the life he's dreamed of since he was a little kid will be a bit easier to obtain. 

"And I got this one boy, and he won't stop calling, when they act this way I know I got 'em."

Sam Winchester

sam gets so serious sometimes. he understands the jokes and the haha of it all, but he's kind of moody, gloomy. even in his mid 20's, he's still a little angsty like a teenager having their first rush of hormones. but sam after dark? after nine pm, he gets all giggle. sometime soon doesn't come quic enough for sam, and he's dropping by at bobby's place, all he wants to do is watch crappy tv with you. he'll dry dishses while you wash. hell, he'll even help with laundry as long as it's with you. whenever you're together, he kept help the giddy feeling in his chest. like when a puppy realizes it's owner has come back after being gone all day. his new favorite thing is to get you both drunk, call dean and have him pick you both up, laughing about it hysterically. it's not even that funny, and kind of mean when you think back on it sober, but it's genuinely the most fun sam's ever had. you had him hooked when you were too busy, and now he's being reeled in by your addictive personality. he didn't think someone could be so fun. this is what sam's life should be like, he feels it in his chest every time the first few tipsy giggles pass between the both of you. this is what life is meant to feel like. of course in the morning, you both nurse hangovers, and dean's being annoying back at you, but still, even through the painful, pounding headaches, you share laughs. even when you're not drunk, you still laugh at each other. passing stories back and forth of childhoods gone wrong, everything you dreamt about doing as kids. he feels so open and free with you. he knows he can tell you anything, the same way he can tell dean anything. you won't judge him, fear him, worry about him in that suffocating way that turns him away from people. you don't ask too many questions, you just get him. it's that serious understanding that lets sam be so carefree with you. he'll laugh about the times you've messed up during hunts, joke about times either of you almost (or did die), because that's just the way to cope with those kinds of thing's sometimes. you watch videos on youtube, like teenagers staying up past bedtime, hiding laughs and smiles behind hands, hiding in each other's necks or chests when you can't keep the laughter down. it's just so soft, and honestly so unlike sam to just let himself go like that. but you like this other side of him, and you're so grateful that he's comfortable enough to open up to you about thing's he normally can't cope with, or begin to understand on his own. 

"Oh, he looks so cute wrapped around my finger, my twisted humor makes him laugh so often."

Castiel

castiel doesn't need espresso, he doesn't get tired, he doesn't sleep, but there are other thing's he needs. someone to follow. he'd follow you to the ends of the earth if you asked him to. you could say 'jump!' and he'd ask how high. when you walk away, just out of reach, he follows. it's the longing he feels that keeps the rope wrapped around his neck, and it won't loosen, and he doesn't really want it to. castiel listens to dean mostly, sometimes sam, but you always. he doesn't want to upset you, and it crushes him the most when he's on one of his paths to be the best or lead heaven, or whatever his little angel heart desires, and he sees how much its affecting you negatively, but he knows he's doing his best and it's all for your benefit. cas hadn't ever realized how difficult life was, and even though sam and dean's lives were very rough, and can't really be compared to an average humans life, the way you are contradicts everything. your skin is soft, you smell so fragrant. he can pick apart every single scent you have. whether you put more conditioner in than last time, if you used a different lotion, even down the type of nail polish you use, he can smell the difference. and gosh, the difference between nail polish odor, and the scent of rotting corpses being dug up to burn, or gunpowder, is so opposite. he hadn't ever expected to want something romantic, especially with a human. long after you're done, he will still be here, the exact same, unless he dies, he is eternal. but you're like his biggest dream come true. so understanding and kind, your personality gives him genuine hope in the human race that there's some kind of meaning to it all. that not everything is just so negative. that life isn't all about the next kill, or just living to the next day. it's meant to be sweet, and honest, and fun, and simple. what he'd do for something simple nowadays. he's imagined the perfect life with you. the children you'd have, how they'd have your personality and he knew he could live eternally happy just knowing that a piece of you lives in the world. he doesn't dream, but if he could, you'd be the star of the show. castiel himself doesn't really understand what it is that keeps pulling him closer to you like a magnet, but he enjoys it. he knows human life is precious, so he spends all your waking (and even sleeping) minutes at your side, watching you grow smarter, kinder, more passionate about this or that.

“My twisted humor, makes him laugh so often, my honey bee, come and get this pollen.”

So, is it really that sweet? (I guess so!)

[sonic-takeover]

Shadow watch your son carefully,this boy eats drywall I don't think he knows how to cook/lh /j

Silver, a date can be whatever you want it to be! I agree with your dad though, you probably won't be kissing just yet haha. Espio is kinda the shy type. That being said,try not to rush yourself with it! Remember,he's still your friend in all of this, feelings or no feelings. It's nice to just sit and have fun!

He eats what..? Silver, please tell me this is not true.

What?

Do you eat walls?

..... I used to, yeah. Heheh..

Why the hell were you eating walls??

*Silver shrugs, gently helping Charmy lift the rice to pour into the pot of water* In my timeline, there weren't a lot of resources left. We had to make do. Improvise. But now I don't have to do that! I have you guys, and real food!

.... *Shadow steps closer to him and puts an arm around him in a side hug* You're safe.

*Silver's eyes widen and for once he doesn't laugh or make any jokes. He just leans against him* .. Thanks, pops.. Oh, and about Espio.. I guess you guys are right about all that. Espio is my friend! I don't have to be like you guys and rush into it.

*Shadow glares incredulously at him* Excuse me? We did not rush. We took years to even imply interest. You, however, seem to be certain about him after a day of realizing you have feelings for him.

I'm not- *Silver stops, gathering his words* .. I'm not certain about anything. But this is what you do with these feelings, right? You take action on them?

... Sometimes, yes.

But no one has a clear answer for me. No one knows the right thing to do, it's all just.. "Whatever makes you happy, Silver!" .. I don't know what that means.

It means your path is in your hands. This timeline is yours to guide. You can change your mind at any time. If you aren't absolutely certain about Espio, you don't have to take action. You don't have to take action if you are certain, either. It's not a big deal either way. You'll get through whatever happens.

... Yeah. I still wanna do the picnic, though.

Hm. *Shadow nods and goes back to cooking. Charmy has wandered off, bored of listening to grown-up conversations*

............. I sleep floated into his bed this morning.

Gaia help you, Silver.

I knowww! Ughhh!

[dw-flagler]

i say lisa. i think she'd be called a joke villain riddler copycat by the press and find that really demeaning so she has a massive showdown arc where she proves herself to be a massive threat and cement herself as a permanent rogues gallery member. Honestly i feel like it shouldn't just be her i think brian and taylor should be her semi-independent powered henchmen.

i like the idea of this half-undersiders as a recurring team but also they can each split off into individual things, so sometimes just one bat person like cassandra fights, say, grue, and that's a couple issue arc, but then there's a massive crossover arc where everyone has to team up to fight the undersiders, who've reformed for the nth time. Cause each one of them is a pretty good foil to some aspect of batman but all together they work for the whole thing. tattletale is the detective, grue is the fighter, and skitter is the object of fear (and also the single-minded devotion to a purpose).

Change a couple things about their backstories and it works pretty well to make them sympathetic villains.

I mean if DC wanted to shamelessly rip a page out of their own book and keep milking the Harley Quinn cow for all it's worth, you could make lisa into a harley-quinn style former riddler hench who got her own aspirations (since one of riddler's henchwomen is literally just tattletale like exactly her).

Just make aisha permanently unpowered and boom grue has a little sister to lift out of poverty and take care of a la sandman or mr. freeze.

taylor is weird but i think you could make it work if you kept her "i need to fix things" nature if she's a single-minded vigilante that genuinely seems to think that heroes are the problem, kind of like how she sees heroes in worm. (alternatively you could make her into DC skitter from the new 52 teen titans run who vanished because she was unpopular like i outlined in that one post).

that being said if i had to pick just one it would be tattletale but i would think the whole group would work like a charm.

definitely drop the others though, unless it's the entire group. rachel might work but alec is way too morally weird to be an antagonist, aisha's power doesn't work very well in a comic format, lily's, like too dangerous to work as a villain for Normal Guy Man (her power is just Kills You), and i feel like if there was any choice at all sabah wouldn't even try at villainy.

I read a fic once where it was the entire undersiders transported to brockton which was alright in theory but the actual fic was lackluster, and plus that weird universe crossover stuff just doesn't work for me.

So by 'best villain' that encompasses both being interesting to fight but also having good storyline potential. It is not a WhoWouldWin situation.

I have a strong feeling I already know what people will answer with, but I'm interested to see arguments for/against each character.

[naomiknight-17]

Picked up Dave the Diver yesterday, and it's much more intense than I expected and I've been really enjoying it except for two things

1. Characters make rude comments about Dave's weight (he is very round)

2. I keep getting murdered by fish

[bumblingbabooshka]

Thinking about marriage/women's rights on Vulcan Some may think that T'Pring not being allowed to divorce Spock was because he was going through the pon farr but if she were allowed to divorce him at all she probably would have done that a long time ago, confirmed by T'Pol when she's speaking with Koss, who isn't suffering from the pon farr. She says that he can choose another mate (without invoking a fight it seems: note the difference between a 'mate' and a 'challenger') and after he makes it clear that nothing she says will change his mind about marrying her, she finally threatens to declare a kal-if-fee. It's clear that Vulcan women cannot divorce/refuse to marry a man they've been betrothed to under any circumstances if A) He himself doesn't consent to ending their marriage or B) She doesn't have someone else waiting in the wings to be given to in his stead. Though, if the challenger she selects fails to win the fight, she'll have to marry her betrothed anyway unless (again) he decides he doesn't want her after the challenge. That seems like an incredibly unfair system, heavily biased towards men. SNW is an alternate universe in many obvious respects but most egregiously in that T'Pring has a lot of non-canonical agency over her relationship with Spock. It's interesting to me that Vulcan society has women in many positions of power and treats women as equal to men from what I've seen despite these laws. We don't really see Vulcans exhibiting a misogynistic attitude towards women in general but in TOS (perhaps because of its general writing style but it's still interesting to note) both Sarek and Spock take on patriarchal attitudes specifically regarding wives. Amanda says that 'of course' Sarek commands her because "he is a Vulcan and I am his wife." It's worthwhile in my eyes to note that she specifies 'wife' instead of attributing this attitude to women as a whole. Again, with TOS' writing style it wouldn't be out of place for her to say "he is a man and I am a woman." Spock, while in a pon farr induced irritation, states that it's "undignified for a woman to play servant to a man that isn't hers" - again implying that there's something specific about being a Wife in Vulcan society which is different from being a woman in general and demands subservience to a husband. This could perhaps stem from the extreme sense of ownership that Vulcan law has permitted men to have over women. A woman legally cannot point blank refuse marriage. There is no option which guarantees she won't have to marry her betrothed other than death. When T'Pau speaks of T'Pring she refers to her as being 'property' and Stonn, before being interrupted, states he's made 'the ancient claim' - we don't know what this is because he gets cut off but it's obvious they're both using the language of Vulcan law. Men are permitted true freedom to choose. If a woman wants to choose someone else to be with there is no option available to her other than the kal-if-fee which might result in the death of the one she wants to be with. And, if her lover fails, her husband can still just decide he wants to marry her and she'll be forced to. T'Pring gives two scenarios: One where Spock 'frees' her and one where he doesn't - it's still ultimately his decision which is clear when he ends the conversation with "Stonn, she is yours." This again isn't just because of the pon farr as T'Pol also goes through this. Koss can choose another mate and when the option is talked about there's no implication that this would result in any sort of fight (both by the casualness of its mention and by the fact that there's no formal word for it unlike the kal-if-fee.) Also, the fact that Koss does eventually grant T'Pol a divorce and it's all fine means that T'Pol isn't lawfully required to have another man waiting if her HUSBAND doesn't want her. It's ONLY required if SHE doesn't want her husband. Tradition must take precedence over individual desire UNLESS!!! You're a man. Then it's fine. Like, your parents might not be happy but legally you're golden.

[aineirisha]

He starts regretting his decision when he feels a sting at the top of his stomach seeing Genma's hand smoothly caress the line of your back as you laugh at one of his jokes.

Your laughter still sounds like waterfall but he would destroy every source if that meant getting Genma away from you.

He stays silent for the rest of the evening paying attention to your interactions. You seem to feel comfortable with him, accustomed to his presence and Kakashi can't help but notice how Genma looks constantly for your closeness.

So he was right, then, you are with someone else and he doesn't stand a chance.

He thinks he doesn't stand a chance against someone that makes you laugh. He is not funny. He has other qualities, many, if he dare say, but being funny isn't one of them. Though he is certain he could make you moan louder than Genma can make you laugh.

"what do you think, Kakashi?..." He hears Genma say as they watch you leave "should I go to the bathroom and take care of this now or should I wait for her to return and take her home and have her deal with this?"

Kakashi looks at Genma with a questioning face and understands what he means after looking at the bulk between his legs.

Kakashi knows is not of his business. He knows it's between you and Genma...

"How long have you been dating?" he asks.

"Oh we're not dating. But the amount of blue balls she gives me... I just think she should pay me somehow, you know."

Kakashi is not happy with Genma's answer. And he doesn't think he should let you close to him ever. So he volunteers to take you home.

On the way he wonders if he should make a move.

"Good night, kakashi" you say with a smile. The most beautiful smile he's ever seen.

He decides not to make a move. He doesn't want to be another Genma.

Instead he starts showing up wherever you are.

Kakashi knows his strengths and his weaknesses. That's why he is so powerful.

He never had to be strategic towards a girl before. But he can do it, and he will do it if that means protecting you. It's a mission.

You always thought he was an arrogant ass. He broke one of your friends heart some years ago and since then he's never been but a fuckboy to you. You don't do fuckboys. Or arrogant asses. You have no time.

But he's always around, and you start to find his voice comforting, and his smile tender. And you realize he's not arrogant, he's just an introvert. You're still not sure about the fuckboy part.

He looks for you everyday. Some days he just watches you from afar making sure everything's fine. Some days he casually pops up where you are and very smoothly pays for your meal or casually gives you that book you were looking for.

"I gave it back and the girl from the library said you've been asking for it so... Here it is. Sorry for taking so long returning it" Kakashi gives you a smile as he scratches his head apologetically.

Your heart warms when you see him. It always means good news in the smoothest ways.

Kakashi dreams about you a lot. Kakashi thinks about you a lot. In many ways. Some of them he rather not confess cause they would make him look worse than Genma.

Are you his mission?

Or are you his prey?

Any idea what kakashi does when you are the only woman in the village who rejected him. He has never seen this befycz girlsare crazy after him

- Kakashi is not used to chasing after anyone. Girls always fall before he even moves.

All it takes is one look from afar and a grin and the girl is his. He zips from his sake satisfied with his efficiency and proceeds to do whatever he wants with her.

But when you don't respond the way he's used to he starts to wonder if you're blind or if he's losing his touch.

Maybe you already are with someone

Or maybe you're not into guys...

So he takes a deep breath and moves his attention somewhere else.

Except...

He can't.

Now you're everywhere.

He sees you laughing with Gai, he listens to Genma talk about you, he bumps into you at the grocery store and the library and the hokage building, and at the bar.

And he doesn't understand how is it that you get more beautiful each time.

But his pride doesn't let him insist. He tried, you didn't want to, he'll respect that like the gentleman he is.

He might fuck someone else thinking about you tho.

And now he's ashamed. He never thought a crush could get this far. So he avoids you as much as he can.

The night of the opening Gala he thinks he has a light of hope to direct his attention to someone else when he sees from afar a gorgeous back in a red dress.

So he walks towards with a chasing intent. He is ready to win and conquer.

But surprise surprise it was you.

He should've known.

you are the only person that makes him go feral like that. He's about to leave when

"Kakashi-san!!"

So he turns again towards you and now he's out of breath.

That shouldn't happen. He's never out of breath.

"leaving so soon?" You smile at him.

He sighs. He's doomed.

"come join us for a while"

I would join you anywhere you ask

"what did you say Kakashi-San?"

He decides he'll give it one more shot.

Maybe if he stops imagining and starts acting you'll fall for him.

***************

I hope you enjoy ;)

I have an idea of what comes next. A little toxic but...

Let me know if you want a part 2. It's a little angsty but...

Anyways thanks for asking. You just made my day <3

[spirestar]

V's laugh gives Cam a funny sharp feeling in the back of her neck--Like she's being watched. Or that she's seeing something she shouldn't. She hasn't heard him laugh like that before / Probably won't again. It's not like she hadn't been trying to make light of his question--She definitely had been. Teasing, even, this weird question mark of a person who actually listens to her for some reason even though he's never met her before coming to this city, who has no reason to trust her other than the fact Morrison asked her to come and she did. It's more than she can say for a lot of her clients. Scared people make for bad listeners, most especially when she's trying to save their asses. And everything he says after the laugh is just--"V that's just." She squints at him almost like she hopes he'll stop laughing and admit he's fucking around. But of course he doesn't. Why would he? "That's ridiculous. You need to get out more." Says the once-a-week bar visitor who could probably fill out a punch card for how many times she gets takeout to avoid eating in restaurants in a week, too. She's not taking any steps further down the road of this stupid topic. Maybe he's got weird allergies. Cam decides she's not going to care.

"Another job, sure." She sighs softly and tries not to read into the odd line of questioning as she leans over to draw on the crushed asphalt with her obsidian-covered fingertips, scratching a symbol into the surface made up of intricate intersecting lines. Cam half-wishes he'd go back to quoting his book so she could quit having to think of answers. They're close enough to the bend in the subway track that's hiding the nestled Qliphoth branches. She just has to blow the metal and concrete away and unveil the monsters underneath. "I don't leave until I'm done, though. S'why I wasn't here day one--" Cam stands back up and stretches her arm across her chest, her explosive sigil left incomplete so she can at least give poor V the courtesy of a warning. Her brows are still furrowed in that way he wanted to see and try not to laugh at, too: ????? "Then I had to drop by my place and feed my cat first. Important shit, obviously," this is a half-joke and she means for it to be, her lips tugging into a quarter of a wry smile, too. V doesn't seem like he does anything normal. He might as well know she does between work. Cam isn't boring, but she's not trying to be a Character like Dante is / was? At least if she makes it clear, then V will really know not expect her to go out of her way for him (even if she would). "Did you have any more questions, or...? Can you ask 'em after I bust this open?"

Priorities. He's lucky she can't hear Griffon's commentary. Vergil's suffering seems to have a vice grip on them all.

V is still Vergil--he finds the response of 'I'm getting cheeseburgers' so mundane his first instinct is to go to find it pitiable. The whole world extended like a map and what -- cheeseburgers? Why cheeseburgers when you turned your sister's killer into your pet? Don't you yearn for more, for more power? But the initial impulse passes and V's lazy smiles turns into a laugh, shaking his head so low over his chest his bangs might brush his sternum. Of course it's cheeseburgers. Still I do not understand humanity. The laugh threatens to tear his flesh apart. He isn't laughing very hard at all, too quiet by nature to really laugh in the ways people like Dante and Nico do, but Vergil tried not to laugh at all / such a small, insignificant thing can shatter V's constitution. He stoops down to pick up a particularly interesting bit of crystal. Although he's not sure why, he gets the feeling Nico might be able to make something interesting out of it, maybe a new Devil Breaker for Nero or something. V straightens and pockets it.

"I've only ever had a cheeseburger... once in my life..." he admits, raising his head again. Half-truth. V has only had one cheeseburger. Vergil, of course, has had quite a few. But he wants to see how Cam will look at this confession and try not to laugh--again--over her imperceptible brow quirking at his words, the slight shift under her eyes, the cartoon-like question marks that might bubble above her head like they do in comics. "I'd like to have one again." Although he probably won't get the chance, what with the lingering in Red Grave and Urizen looming above them with his jaws salivating for that apple from Blake's poem. V loves Blake desperately but he wishes just as desperately his demonic half hadn't clung to the words too...really...how on the nose can you get? It feels awfully vaudevillian, but then again they as Vergil have always been like that, even if they pretended otherwise.

Which brings him to Cam's next sentiment. Dramatic kings. Yes, V has had enough of those too. His smile goes wry again, an expression much more suited on his features than his eager laugh had been. "I'm tired of them too." He hopes when he returns to his-self that Vergil will remember this exhaustion and turn it into something better. "Glad we are in agreement. You weren't taken from some other job to come to Red Grave... were you?" Of course Urizen isn't the only demon in the whole world, but this had been priority #1 for those in the area, so he offers a vague consolatory hope for the struggling people Vergil's selfishness may have ripped Cam away from so she can occupy herself with dealing with his suffering (again).

V--if you don't want to be dramatic anymore, I'm afraid you're going to have better luck stabbing yourself in the chest with Yamato a second time and making two more people. I mean, come on. Be serious. You're not any better than Vergil.

I know that...

No! You don't! Vergil never quoted poetry out loud! Do you hear yourself?

[ghostdnfie]

the urge to 'come out' as a dream stan on my phan tumblr account grows and grows every day and watch as the (likely) antis who follow/interact with me either unfollow or hardblock me never to be seen again

[toastingpencils37]

Just want to rant about Kai a bit, and how he is in Season 1.

Because I fucking hate him in Season 1. I'm sorry, but he's just such an asshole. And not a funny and lovable asshole. Just an asshole, whether it's about the green ninja shit or Nya being a girl.

And he does improve after his True Potential episode (due to character development), but prior to it (and actually during part of it) he's just unbearable to me.

And I remember that as a kid I hated him as well during Season 1.