#it didnt feel like a loving acknowledgment of the old show and the fandom
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brown-spider · 10 months ago
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imo the pointing meme was 1,000x’s funnier in ITSV than in ATSV
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leincendiaire · 1 year ago
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anyways salty thoughts. dont expect me to be nice
this is the one problem not exclusive to the finale, god ed's character arc just. didnt do it for me at all. I excused it before cuz I thought it would pay off as the season went on but nope. he never had a genuine apology moment, just that youtuber apology like gag and the cat collar joke. like they literally show us how the crew was completely scarred by his actions but theyre later just completely fine with him on board???? and stede keeps being his biggest stan when I think he would have been like hey what the fuck!! im sorry I hurt you but I am not responsible for your actions and you hurt my crew whom I hold very dear!! I love ed but Fuck he really went too far those first episodes and he never makes up for it. they only ever focus on His Own self journey, not how he hurt and traumatized practically every other character.
"well, I think narratively izzy's death made sense but—" no!! no it fucking didnt!! im sorry but it was just lazy writing!! they didnt know what to do with him so whoops he gets shot in the dumbest way possible. like, this aint my first rodeo, it aint the first time ive seen a character start off on their character journey to happiness only for writers to give up on it and kill them off. it's a tiring fucking trope tbh and I really wish they hadnt fallen into this trap. like his death scene wasnt good either, if youre gonna do it at least focus on his relationship with the crew, you know, the people he came to accept as family? not the man Who Shot Off His Fucking Leg And Almost Killed Him? I know they had an important relationship but that shit should have been talked about way beforehand, it deserved closure. they should have acknowledged they werent good for each other and made peace with it. izzy deserved a death with people who actually made him happy. ALSO THEY BURY HIM ON FUCKING LAND?????? he spent his life at sea!!!! he is the most devoted out of everyone to being a pirate and you bury him next to your fucking inn???? fucking twats istg
lastly I swear they forgot stede is the main character. they forgot literally everything about how to write him. he gets No Focus in the finale, and every scene he is in is bullshit. I actually wanted to punch my screen every time there was a joke about him being incompetent or whatever. like, hello??? thought we left that shit in s1??? he had Multiple Episodes about learning to be a pirate and adjusting to his new life and gaining more skills but no. he is just silly old loserboy for his cool war criminal boyfriend now. literally no skills or experience whatsoever. ok sure yea thats totally how he acted the rest of the season. also the fuck is it with him staying behind to run the inn with ed?? wasnt the whole conflict last episode their different desires out of life, with ed wanting to start a normal life and stede wanting to be a pirate?? when the Fuck did he change his mind. who are you and have you done with my boy
honestly I feel bad because jenkins is actually a good writer and the whole fandom really expected a lot from a man making his second show, and I think there were a lot of budget cuts and production issues so I can see why it turned out this way. he is probably mad about this too, I bet the cast also, like even the acting in this episode didnt feel passionate, and thats saying a lot since these actors really love this show. im just frustrated. man. time to write fics ig
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stormblessed95 · 2 years ago
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I agree so much with your blog post! A lot of Taekookers and other shippers are pretty fetishistic and I really hate it. You have to see queer people as full human beings independent of their attraction to someone else. It's like they're using demisexuality or pansexuality as an excuse to prove a ship rather than acknowledging that it's because they're too homophobic to care for any couple that doesn't fit into their fantasies.
But I'd like to add that old-school Taekookers totally had a whole thing going on about Park Bogum, he was a very important figure in Taekookology. Bogum had a lot of gay rumours back in the day (yes, he was born in a cult, but Kforums had rumours he spotted in gay clubs, broken-hearted over a fellow actor etc.) and Tkkrs believed that Tae had some sort of feelings or some sort of an on-and-off deal back in 2015 – 17, and so Jungkook was super-jealous (for example this Bangtan Bomb in 2019 that they obsessively analyse). It's just that, when the fandom exploded after Dynamite, Bogum was enlisted and new Taekookers have conveniently forgotten this particular theory.
 Taekookers basically have no internal consistency. They will use any argument that proves that Taehyung or Jungkook is LGBT+ but won’t compute that these instances have very little to do with each other or that Taekook do not show the greatest emotional intimacy.
Yes, I'm aware of the weird jealousy theories surrounding Bogum where they said JK was possessive over Tae during a concert that Bogum went to and watched, picking him up to show who Tae belonged to. When if you watch the actual fancam you see Tae asked JK to pick him up for the song opener because it would be funny and cute. AND IT WAS! They also say that he was jealous when he visited them backstage. (They didn't even know he was there until he surprised them backstage and no, he never seemed to act jealous at all, so he didnt act possesive over Tae for Bogums benefit because he didnt know Bogum was there. And he wasnt being possessive in the first place, just cute with his hyung for Anapanman).
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And that JK took Jimin to Toyko and made GCFT because he was jealous over Tae going to Jeju with Bogum and making their own video there too (which was a vastly different video experience lol). And so that he made the trip and video as a way to make Tae jealous too.
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Which is just another contradictory theory of theirs because they also love insisting that GCFT was SUPPOSED to be a vminkook trip. Lol none of it makes sense. It's all contradictory and none of it depicts a healthy relationship.
Pick a theory and stick to it at least??
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sothischickshe · 4 years ago
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#And s4 is kind of a question mark currently#Rio's behaviour currently seems batshit#But if fitz is alive.... Rio might not be stupidest person to ever live?#But like.... This show has wronged me re rio's behaviour making sense too many times for me to expect that.#And personally I think that's one of the most egregious things about the show#And I'm not sure that it is getting worse#I think it might just be getting more noticeable over time and how the plot has escalated#But I am holding out a little hope that there is some reason for his behaviour
I cannot explain how much I felt this. Rio's dumbassery is making this season so hard for me and like - if they gave me even the smallest hint that he was playing along and not actually stupid I'd probably feel so much better about the season
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I have a feeling this is going to get long haha (idk if im capable of making anyone feel better, but i can poss offer a contact numbing...?)
so i like the show. i enjoy the show. i think it’s pretty silly, but so am i so that’s not necessarily a complaint. i am very attached to the show, bc i found it (only s1 had aired back then) at a time when i was dealing with a lot of EXTREME physical and emotional trauma (of which topic some more below) and then thrown into a grief hole, and as a result im not sure there’s a shark big enough for it to jump that would make me abandon it. it’s like...yea, literally my comfort show i guess! and i will always be grateful to it for that, and for leading me back into fandom and into writing fic!
large swathes of the plot do not stand up to scrutiny, and that bothers me not at all. if i wanted to watch a proper crime show, i’d go watch a crime show. and frankly if a person’s still watching this show expecting the concept of time to be treated as existing, that’s on them right?
ultimately i think the two things i love most abt this show: i. the acting is incredible & seems to be allowed to lead the plot reasonably organically ii. i cant predict what’s going to happen bc it’s batshit (which i can understand why a lot of ppl see as a flaw haha, but as someone who watches a LOT of american films/tv & can generally tell what’s gonna happen i fucking love) are often at odds.
anyhooo...i like s1 fine BUT there’s a lot of exposition and dialogue which i find v clunky. i can tho forgive a lot for first seasons (which are rarely-never my faves). i think the biggest issue i have with it/i guess the show generally is the mm lack of historicity btwn the 3 main characters? which is probs its own post but def ties into:
the point at which i went ‘oh this show is made by white ppl’ was s1e3. i was on a lot of codeine lol so idk if i wouldve clocked it earlier otherwise, or if i was just seeing deeeeeply through space and time but as @nakedmonkey has said since day dot basically: ok if something has the only latinx character as the only violent gang criminal character...like....i get what ive signed up for. and im Old so im pretty desensitised to racist tropes wandering in and out of things. and i honestly find it almost quaint how this show seems to manage to avoid stereotypes sometimes by simply not knowing abt them ahaha
but... rewatching s1 after s2 finished and having that context (particularly but certainly not only the s2 finale, of which more below)... idk. rio’s behaviour just seems pretty fucking random?! take: yea yea i love making noise let’s go bang some pots and pans blah blah blah im on facebook too vs. SHUTDOWN!!! like i didnt care when this show was fun and silly, but once youve upset me and im combing through trying to work out if he’s the stupidest person in the entire world, stuff like that sticks out?? and yes, i can find reasonings and explain it to myself (and i can have fun doing it!) but in the context of his batshit behaviour in s2: a lot of his behaviour generally seems wildly inconsistent, like the plot purpose of it is SO visible, and i think that is a flaw! but i have to acknowledge im MUCH more interested in character than plot.
i definitely think his behaviour being bananas inconsistent is casually, callously racist and as the show’s gone on it’s found a bouquet of harmful tropes to play with (what fun) but i can also acknowledge that the beth/rio dynamic wasnt an original part of it & im not sure rio was sposed to survive s1 & im almost certain he wasnt sposed to be as much a part of the show so ive got a lil sympathy for some awkward pivoting, & i think they retooled bits of both beth and rio’s characters to get matchier, which im pretty into.
nonetheless, i think s2 is probs the worst offender for nonsensical rio behaviour. the finale takes the top prize (of which more below) but like... ok can anyone explain to me what’s happening in s2e2? the ending of that ep (im going to teach you) was when i went ‘oh this show is stupid stupid’. like... am i sposed to believe that beth gave rio back the gun & then (he?) thought she was going to..... what beat boomer to death......? yea of course i can explain this to myself! he never thought she was going to manage it! it’s a test! but there’s a LOT of this.
what the fuck is he doing in s2e6? all ive got is: he REALLY wants beth to smack him in the face & doesnt know how to use his words (& also he’s very drunk.)
s2e10! park bench scene! what is happening?! episode before she threw him out! episode the next he throws her out! why??? is??? he??? being???? so???? nice???? (again! of course i can find some way to explain this to myself: well if *i* had some vague leverage plan over someone this is exactly how sweet and nice i’d be to them hahah)
but the overall thing is the whole season i was waiting for him to work out they didnt kill boomer (and try to get marry pat’s number off beth, haha). and then that he had the wrong body. and like......?????
look!!!! i love ambiguity!!! i do!!! omg do i!!!! hi!!!! BUT i love it when it’s INTENTIONAL. when it leads to SOMETHING. and im not sure that’s what the show is giving me...? and also!!! look!!! knowing what your non-pov characters are doing/thinking is a lesson *i* had to learn! i love it when stories have a grasp of what characters do/n’t know!!! s2 has annie realising that noah is fbi cos she sees him meet up with turner....who she’s not met...? and sure of course - she’s seen a photo or the girls have described him well enough or he has giant fed energy...maybe....? hmm
and then the s2 finale. ok. on a character level the thing that most annoys me is like.... kidnapping someone & handing them your only weapon & asking them to murder a fed presumably on camera IN YOUR HOME is STUPID. it’s STUPID. am i sposed to think he’s an idiot? like: it’s fucking dumb.
and from a story point of view: when the fuck did he find out about jeff? is rio omniscient but extremely drunk??????
and from a personal point of view: the knowledge that i wasnt going to quit this show. and that i was going to have to walk my rec back! me!?!?! my recs are fucking perfect 
s3! the beginning of s3 i think is pretty good on rio’s behaviour making sense! except he tells a person standing outside to get in his car for some fresh air. but ok, he’s driving drunk again! fine! fits the rest of his characterisation, sure. it felt to me like they made a conscious effort to write him consistently!!! i was very into it!!!!
& ive got a LOT of time for stuff like the hitman or boring dave -- when the plot machinations are externally-generated rather than rio-generated, his behaviour doesnt end up seeming so random bc he’s reacting to things and/or doesnt need to turn up to do something to make the girls do something else.
but the latter part of s3 into s4. hmm. look, i dont know what the original intent with wrapping up s3 was. there is really no point at which i thought rio was going to reveal he knew abt the hitman. like, i wouldve happily eaten my words! but i spent so much of s2 waiting for a reveal that he knew...anything really. burn me twice? pff good luck.
i suspect the original resolution to the hitman plot was sposed to be...better? rio apparently being a magical gps who doesnt ask qs is... dumb. i can handwave it, i can handwave a lot, but i suspect covid shooting restrictions probs played a part here?
rio’s behaviour this season seems pretty dumb to me. but it’s seemed pretty dumb and inconsistent to me for v long time. my expectations are not high lol. i think there’s a pretty reasonable chance that fitz is alive and/or rio’s put it together abt the hit (and thinks it’s romantic cos he’s a fucking idiot), but im not certain on that.
i was pretty on the fence abt the fingering scene (there were aspects of it that i really liked, including the No Dick TIll I Actually Trust You energy), but ive gotta super rec Be Good To Me by @blizabrth cos BOTH the povs like super sold me on it (and yea, should i need fic to sell me on the show? hmm idk but im used to it from the s2 finale, so)
i think a large part of what’s fucking me off is that BC of the time in which i found the show... it hurts me seeing the trauma (physical and emotional) & grief not being given due weight. it’s probably a bit silly to expect it from a relatively silly tv show (that’s literally what fic is for! haha) but... idk, i can put up with a lot when something is fun, but if you’re going to drag me into violence and angsty shit i need it be handled like that has fucking weight, and especially when im constantly being slapped in the face with SPECIFICALLY only black and brown bodies as sites of violence, my patience is extremely thin.
most of the damage ive taken personally is due to my own recklessness (so i do have a lot of empathy for this fucking idiot lol) but like.... there are certain ppl Involved who if i saw them, i think i’d straight up punch them in the teeth without thinking. im not proud of that necessarily. i dont think that’s a good thing. but... it’s accurate man. like, i wouldnt be all oooh hey wanna see the combo to my magic car safe yknow? (and not just cos i dont have a car). [and no... i did not care this much when they werent super paying attention to dean’s recovery/remembering his scar and that is bc idc abt dean. but!!! i still did sigh at it!!!]
the glee with which i will eat my words if rio is revealed to not be being an idiot is... gigantic. i dont need a lot. i dont particularly WANT rio pov (i think a lot of the desire for it is obvi bc his behaviour...is so...batshit), though i’ll take weary irritated mick pov with fucking pleasure. i dont need a tearful apology from beth, the further we get from the s2 finale, the less i can imagine anything like that happening and feeling even remotely in character/true to their dynamic/the tone of the show, though i’d take a drunk grudging ‘im vaguely glad you are alive’ with pleasure. i would v much like them to talk some stuff out, but i can cope without it. i dont need them to touch, though give me a hug and i’ll die. i just.... want... to feel like....they’re being written internally consistently? and maybe they are! i felt relatively positive abt it when s3 started, and i can see how stuff mayve been derailed by the pandemic restrictions & the cut short season. and i think the fact that they’re introducing rio’s family & backstory is potentially a positive thing, as well as the fact that he’s getting frankly too much screentime considering he’s not had a single scene with dean (I DEMAND MY TAX!!!! NAME A BAD RIO & DEAN SCENE, I WILL FUCKING WAIT)
but i am firmly at I’ll Believe It When I See It bc theyve wronged me & I Do Not Forget
(and most of all what i want is for both beth and rio to be written off the show. like. im not joking. theyre both fucking me right off.)
that all said: if you (even if temporarily) accept that beth & rio are canonically just as stupid as we keep being told they are, and tilt your head to the side..... this might be THE greatest absurdist comedy of all time.
like: writing them as morons is absolutely hilarious, im having a great time but.... that’s how stupid i have to think they are, yknow?
also,  since coming back to writing fiction/starting to publish ff:
-  i think ive become a leetle less judgemental abt like all fiction/storyelling including this show. bc writing is fucking hard & ppl have different strengths/weaknesses & collaborative writing/storytelling certainly has its own challenges & i mean....creating art/media in capitalism certainly has its challenges & the fact that the obsessive attention to detail/depressing realities im looking for from the show are missing may well be a positive thing for the ppl involved in it haha
- i’ve definitely become less frustrated. bc i have somewhere to....put my emotions? it’s genuinely therapeutic, and i strongly recommend it to everyone, even/especially if they dont (intend to) publish it
also also, i really stand by: this is not a show you are supposed to watch sober.
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autumn-foxfire · 4 years ago
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The thing i noticed when i look at dabihawks fanart n read through your expiriences with the meta part of the fandom is that a lot of people seem to lean on dabi side of the dabihawks conflict. Like its hawks who has to make changes to earn dabi. Its hawks whos turned it a villain, its hawks who forgives or even thanks dabi for what he did. Actually i dont think ive ever seen art ro read a fic (but to be fair im extremly selective in fic reading) where dabi is the one to apologise and try to earn hawks
N i think this sorta makes sense because for a lot of dabihawks shippers, dabi is probably their favorite out of the two. That also makes sense cuz hes been around longer n has appealing design so it makes sense that people would try and fit hawks around dabis narrative instead of vice versa. They find dabi more likable n more interesting so its his side they want to explore.
I feel that this is completely different for me because hawks is my no 1 best boy. Like before hawks bnha was the kind of show where i would say 'oh i like the characters but none of them are mine fav' like id say shouto, shinsou or jirou were my favs mostly based on aesthetics or recognizing pieces i usually like in characters in them, but those pieces never being strong enough for me to say this is my fav bnha character like id say izaya is my favorite durarara character or ranpo is my favorite bungo stray dogs character. And then bam. Bird Time. Like when i first saw hawks i think the most i thought was 'damn thats a cool design' but as we got more of him he very quickly became the character i loved most and wanted to see more off.
Dabi on the other hand i was never really interested in. Like he was cool n all but overall i didnt really care for him until the touya theory dropped and until dabihawks. For me hes perfectly fine, i dont dislike him or anything but i like him most when hes involved with other characters i like, like Todorokis n Hawks. Like even now after a good while on Dabihawks juice id still stay hes not my fav villain. That would probably be Toga, Geten (as little as we get of him) and honestly mr compress just for being an evil magician i need more mr compress
So the fact that hawks is my fav means that unlike ppl whos fav is dabi i focus more on how can dabi earn hawks. How can dabi get better, would he ask for help, would he quit villainy, would he apologize. And most importantly would hawks accept him back.
Makes me feel like amongst dabihawks shippers theres simply two different streams that would probably get annoyed by each others content n feel like the other is spoiling their fav character.
Like i sure as fuck get annoyed when artists i follow for dabihawks start talking about how hawks should have been a villain n how hawks is actually an evil murderer while the league has a point n is poiting out that the heroes will save only those who dont fight back. No really thats a take i heard, lets just forget muscular, mustard, moonfish, gentle, the yakuza and ALL FOR FUCKING ONE who were all arrested perfectly fine without fighting back. But of course these people dont mean saved as in arrested, forced to rexamin their own behavior and work to be better people, they mean saved as in i want my favs to be coddled and patted on the back and instantly forgiven and even told they were right all along and they are the most special a good. Geeze
I fuckin went off subject so hard this is less of an ask n more of a rant now. The only good thing about seeing all those bad takes is that every time i see one my motivation to write a dabihawks story where dabi faces concequences, and they actually have to hash the whole villain hero ideologies thing out, grows stronger
...I’m sorry, I wanted to answer this sooner but wanted to get the smaller asks out of the way first T-T
But yes! That’s been my experience when it comes to Dabihawks as well. Not many people focus on Hawks side of the conflict and instead tend to make him the agressor in the relationship when they want conflict (it always tends to be Hawks who upsets Dabi for example, or Hawks will say something insensitive towards Dabi or do something that upsets Dabi). Not many people treat them as a pair, they just tend to focus on the Dabi angst more then the Hawks angst or angst experienced by the both of them (I like to call that the Dabias and many people suffer from it in the Dabihawks shipping fandom I’ve found).
I like reading stories like this too, from time to time, but I’m just tired of all the stories or comics or fan art being Hawks the bad person in the relationship with him having to apologise and make it up to Dabi. Especially when in canon it’s Dabi that has treated Hawks pretty terribly (he almost got him killed by lying to him about when he was going to release High End and he almost killed him during the raid, meanwhile Hawks hasn’t anything as horrible towards Dabi except hold him at knife point but that was more for his own protection then to threaten Dabi).
I feel like I’m just bitching because people don’t wrote fanfiction to my specifications but you’d be grumpy too if your favourite character always gets the short end of the stick in work that is supposed to be about the pair of them being a couple.
Also don’t get me started on the stories that make Hawks “see the light” and join Dabi’s side after he maimed him, some even going far as to have him thank Dabi for what he did. It just reeks of the Dabias and I absolutely hate. Let Hawks experience trauma you cowards, especially trauma that we know was caused by the hands of dear old Dabi.
I wish more work would try to reform Dabi as a person instead of having Hawks become a villain (especially because works that usually have Hawks become a villain tend to ignore the horrifying plans the League want to commit or acknowledged them but fool themselves into thinking Hawks would actually be down for all the BS). I think it’s more interesting to see a bad person try to change, it’s why I’ve enjoyed Endeavor’s character arc despite not liking him as a character. Like sure, I don’t mind bastardization arcs too but they have to be done with character I can see it happening too and Hawks isn’t that type of person.
(In fact it’s such an interesting source of conflict that Dabi and Hawks are very resolved people. They’re not likely to change their ways for anything but I don’t really see people explore that even though it’s the perfect source for angst).
I’m so tired of villain stans who wanted Hawks to become evil (and then wanted him to validate their murder favs). I want more stories where Hawks puts his foot down and Dabi realises he wants to be a better person for him (it’s in those stories I could actually see him bonding with his family again too because right now Dabi is a man with no qualms with breaking his family apart for his revenge).
I just wished more people would let Dabi face the consequences of his actions too. Like if you’re going to make Hawks suffer for what he did (even though I roll my eyes at the thought) then Dabi who has done much worse should be suffering ten times over.
Make it make sense.
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tarttsbookworm · 4 years ago
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WTF. this was the only words besides "WHERE IS THE ANGEL" that I could say after this episode, and wtf was that
I feel really bad saying this, not only bc I LOVE this amazing show and the family it has brought together, but bc I love this cast and they really hoped for us to enjoy it, but I can't understand WHY
sam and dean have gone through SHIT their hole life, they fought ghosts, angels, demons, Lucifer himself and GOD for heaven sakes, and this is their ending??? dean died so easily, sam got old and got a kid with someone who we don't even get to see?? what the actual fuck was that
cas and jack didnt show up anymore and cas DIED and they couldn't care less????? YEARS of sacrificing themselves over each other, bc "family don't end with blood", WELL I GUESS IT DOES NOW. im really mad bc this was disrespectful to US, to their history and COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER. a bunch of ppl theorized that they wouldn't bring cas back, and the fact that this would be out of character that have kept me in denial, and we get THIS? EXACTLY THIS???? it makes no freaking sense
they went through everything to bring each other back, and now that jack is GOD, that all they have to do is ASK him to bring cas, his FATHER (bc everyone can acknowledge this) back.. THEY JUST DONT????. suddenly they decided that it is okay for ppl to die and STAY DEAD. WTF??? 
you may say "at least they gave us destiel" the hell they did, Misha probably kept annoying everyone so they would do so. not complaining about deans reaction, bc I freaking loved it, it suited the character and anyone else in his position would have the same reaction, but they NEVER talked about it EVER AGAIN. we can accept what Jensen said about dean not understanding that cas could feel in the same way as humans, but still is a bit of load..
what about Eileen?? what a beautiful relationship sam had gotten himself into; got so desperate over the possibility of her death, and got sad when she did; but jack brought everyone back, so she should have come back as well?? why didnt they give us that? if it is for us to swallow down this apple pie ending that sam ended up with it would be easier if it was with Eileen, especially when we can see a woman in the back, so we can assume dEaN is his biological son, so he ended up with someone 
so the show ended like this -something I can't even describe-, thats what Jensen meant when he said that only 30% would like it, I guess not even that, 30% is way more
it was really disrespectful to the fans - I love how they appreciate and acknowledge the fandom part in their story, but they know our privileges and the main ideia of how we ware hoping it to end, and they couldn't care less. not saying I wanted it to be a fan service, but you know your audience, our likes and dislikes, why do something so rushed and nonsense like this??
they kept making references to prior seasons, and ok I got really hooked up on that, but it was such a lazy work omg. I really think they were hoping us to get emotional bc its the last episode and bc of all this references and ignore how terrible it actually was
i do love the show, and will continue to love it, and I hope the cast dont get upset while seeing the public reaction.. ://
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m-feys · 4 years ago
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for the fandom ask thing: ima be super predictable but im curious for your answers 😂😂 torchwood, janto, ianto
kjashdkjahsd thank you anon!!!! :D i got another ask with torchwood so im gonna answer that on that one and do janto and ianto for this
When I started shipping them: ooh this one is a little tricky bc i first encountered janto in doctor who fic, i hadnt watched torchwood at that point but i wanted fics about jack, so it comes with the territory. I think i was very sort of shocked by their kiss in cyberwoman and about the moment in they keep killing suzie cause how those happened so abruptly sort of took me kind of off gaurd, like i knew jack and ianto would be a thing but i didnt know how it would come about? I think i really started shipping them in captain jack harkness, when ianto said ‘jack needs me’ that just cemented their relationship for me and in end of days when Ianto was the one jack was holding onto.
My thoughts: they deserve to be happy!!! but really, this is just such a good ship, it really has everything, betrayal, reunions, the always tragic immortal/mortal, friends-to-enemies-to-friends-to-lovers. jack and ianto were unfortunately left with so much never resolved about their relationship, but they have a lot of depth to how they interact and there’s a lot of room for fans to make it their own
What makes me happy about them: they’re just really understanding of each other, like its canon they both have a hard time communicating but you can see they both give each other room in their relationship but still support one another
What makes me sad about them: its obvious that ianto’s death makes me really sad but more than that it’s the fact that he died so quickly, ianto and jack should have had 60-70 years together. its what they deserved. but jack will remember him no matter what
Things done in fanfic that annoys me: ianto so often gets forced into the more “submissive” role in the relationship, its so weird and it makes me really uncomfortable...
Things I look for in fanfic: communication. i love it when jack and ianto acknowledge their relationship, thats all, canon tried to deprive us of that, but no. fanfic comes thru
My wishlist: not??? entirely sure?? what this means??? I wish they hadn’t done a bury-your-gays with ianto
Who I’d be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: gonna say lisa for ianto, and for jack, eeeeh, idk, the doctor? not even like romantically, but as a life partner. I wouldnt mind if jack and the doctor traveled around together forever
My happily ever after for them: they get an house they decorate themselves and its all old antiques jack has has forever and random junk they accumulate together, along with iantos choice of curtains and carpet because, “no, jack, we will not be getting shag carpets in the house, I dont care if its great for sex, I don’t care if it was all the rage in the seventies, we’re not having shag carpets” also towels because ianto just has particulars about fabrics. they paint the walls themselves and end up covering in paint after jack smears it on ianto’s face and of course he retaliates. They’ll have house plants and at some point a case leaves loose ends and the end up adopting a kid. and ianto dies of old age and jack will remember him forever
oops that got long haha, but now ianto
How I feel about this character: I really love ianto!!! hes such an interesting character and he’s also just a lot of fun, like this “normal” young man who’s wrapped up in this strange organization but hes so good at what he does and on the outside he seems so unmoved by it all but he really feels so much, hmm i love him.
Any/all the people I ship romantically with this character: Jack of course!!! and Lisa as well, the two people he loves dearly.
My favorite non-romantic relationship for this character: Tosh and ianto’s friendship is my favorite!!! i wish we got to see more of them, i love them both so much
My unpopular opinion about this character: hmmmm, I wish people would appreciate ianto’s character a bit more for how strong he is and how much he’s overcome rather than just how traumatized he is. because yes, he’s canonically suicidal and he’s been through so much and he’s pretty young, but like, he also came out of it, and he carries it with him but he’s learned how to carry it, you know?? idk
One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon: I wish his sexuality had been explored further, i know it has in some of the audio dramas but within the show i wish they had better acknowledged his attraction to men with someone outside of jack.
Favorite friendship for this character: oh oops i already said tosh up top, but i do consider tosh and ianto to have more of a brother/sister vibe anyway so for friendship i will say martha!!! i love her and ianto’s interactions, it would be nice to see them confide in each other about all kinds of stuff
My crossover ship: i have no idea, what would i even cross over with torchwood (im not gonna count doctor who as a crossover theyre the same thing basically) buuut, um, maybe ill cross it over with star wars and ship him with mando from his show, bc that would probably be cool, theyre both the type to be really tender in private moments and super distant in public so they’ll be cool with each other, and they’re both super dedicated to the people they love
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kiwi · 6 years ago
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Hi I love your art!! I was just wondering how old you were when you started posting online? I'm almost 16 and I still haven't started posting my art online. I feel like my art is "good enough" to start posting it online but at the same time I'm always constantly working to get better so I don't want to regret starting an account too early in my artistic development. Sorry for rambling but do you have any advice for starting to post onlinr? Social media is nervewracking and I dont want to mess up
hi, thanks anon!
i was 11 when i joined deviantart and hooooooo ooooooOOOOOO BOY im glad i deleted that mess. it wasnt because of the art at all though, i actually made a lot of friends that way and even though there was the odd meanie, every like and comment really encouraged me to keep going! the only reason i dont recommend doing it that young is because i was baby and didnt kno how to act online. if you say dumb stuff on the internet as a tiny bastard it can come back to bite you in the ass
but by all means, if you know how to conduct yourself in a reasonable way online, please post your art! there is absolutely no milestone you should reach before it’s acceptable to post your work. you should post just for the joy of it! if sharing your work doesnt bring you happiness, keep it private for your own enjoyment, but personally sharing my work has been very encouraging for me to keep going
i was 14 when i started posting art on tumblr, and 15 or 16 when i started making youtube videos. and i really did love it! i didnt do it for money at that point, i just did it because it made me happy to network and grow a channel based on something that i made all by myself. do i like every piece that i made back then? hell fuckin no! did i make some real ugly art a bunch of times? hell fuckin yea! but do i feel that sharing my art has stunted my growth? absolutely not. it’s done the opposite! just because you start posting doesn’t mean you’ve “made it” and youre done improving. you can change and learn so much by opening up to your peers online!
as far as advice for posting online goes... (under a readmore to save space and in case i wanna add something later)
1. as i said before.... dont be a little jerk lol. ive learned over the years to treat my online art accounts in a professional way. just share your art and try not to get into shit with strangers for no reason
2. similarly, dont feel the need to respond to bad comments. try to learn the difference between a helpful critique and a troll! and trust me, you will get plenty of both. also, just because youre sharing your work doesnt necessarily mean you have to acknowledge and follow every piece of criticism you receive, sometimes you just want to share art for the fun of it and thats fine! learn to delete comments and move on
3. utilize tags! tag the most popular things associated with your art first. tumblr only tracks the first five tags, so make sure to tag the fandom it’s associated with before adding your in-tag commentary if you have any. go wild with tags on other sites though honestly it cant hurt. on youtube i put like 50 tags on every video that even vaguely have to do with the vid’s subject matter, just to increase the chance that itll show up in more peoples searches
4. if social media is nervewracking to you, just start posting on the site you’re most comfortable with first. maybe just start sharing with your friends and family before you reach out to bigger communities. eventually, you can start posting on multiple sites to maximize the amount of views you get
5. just have fun! drawing fanart is a great way to both get exposure, and find people who like the same things you do. fanart is an awesome part of online communities and everyone enjoys a brand new piece of their favorite show, game, or character! if posting isn’t fun for you, don’t stress yourself out with it.
good luck!
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dauntless-dragayn · 5 years ago
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liveblogging She ra s3 reactions part 2
time for pain babay!
[ part one ┊ part two ]
episode 4
Oh Boy i can already feel the tonal shift
“The Moment of Truth” WHAT a title
Hordak youre assuming your general will give a fuck
CATRAS BACK
Entrapta: “Ooh you have a wip now?” THE ENTIRE FANDOM WHEN CLIPS WERE DROPPED
this isnt related to anything but Angela’s wings are so pretty 🤩
Oh shit Glimmer just called her out big time
The mural in the background of this scene is pretty
Adora needs a chance to fuck Hordak up and not just rant at him That was satisfying tho Her angry voice / growl, yunno?
no dont go to SHADOWBITCH for help
Why is she lounging in her ‘prison’ wtf
“Let me out.” Ive never heard of a WORSE idea
Uh oh Shadowbitch knows exactly how to appeal to Glimmer
NO
Tag yourself im Bow shaking his head in the background
Oh finally Entrapta finds out the truth, this has bothered me for a while
“Catra was my friend too, but she makes bad decisions!” okay honestly this is a little too relatable - having to watch your friends fuck up their own life because they wont listen to you or reason
YEAHH PRINCESS SQUAD
Mermista telling Shadowbitch to shut the fuck up is iconic
Angela flying through the hallways :0
Fuck im worried about this I dont trust Shadowbitch
Wait “her”? Froggo person is a her? Aiight
I see the Princesses are now occupied and wont be in the way during thematically relevant scenes
CATRA 
BOW!! NO DONT LEAVE HIM BEHIND
i dont like.. Glimmer and Shadowbitch working together but I must admit theyre a force to be reckoned with
I do feel bad for Catra tho The last thing she needs is more lies from Shadowbitch
This connection is hurting Glimmer!! >:U
CATRA SHOVING SCORPIA ASIDE JFC
Catra unhinging, thats what we’re watching
The significance of Catra using a taser rn is that thats what she uses to tase Adora when she first defects
So i guess that Catastrophic Event just happened huh
episode 5
wh.. what
HUH?
bitch you did not dream that shit things are NOT perfect
But at the same time its.. so nice to see Catra and Adora getting along
Their flirting .. 💕
“Do you have a concussion or something?” or something..
 Lonnie’s voice is so cute ive forgotten omg
“I cant believe you like me, thats so embarrassing for you!” AHH SKDNFJ CUTE
This is like. Fanfic material
Too good to be true tho and also too terrible bc Adora is still trapped in the Horde
Does Regelio just never talk I love them
Shadowbitch treating Catra well? Them not hating each other??? Fake news 
“Everything is perfect.” Theres that phrase again
IS THIS FORCE CAPTAIN ORIENTATION
“I do not. Like you.” AT LEAST SCORPIA IS HONEST
“And what kind of name is Adora anyway?” KEHFJFJ IM PRETTY SURE THATS THE FIRST IN-SHOW ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF IT
Who tf is this lizard person with hair in the background
Adora is remembering shit!
this would be so scary i feel rlly bad for Adora
Dissociation be like-
“Everything’s perfect.” STOP SAYING THAT
“Everything will be perfect as long as we stay together.” :(((
This is INSANE
“Its like time and space arent working right” you dont say..
Why is Scorpia the only other person to act like they remember? Besides Catra in that one moment ,,?
“Just go with it okay?” Yeah like thats what youve been doing..
Gonna reiterate: this is insane!
Hahaha Adora and Catra are alone in a closet kiss- Sorry this is all just So Much i needed to break the tension
ADORA JUST TASERED CATRA I- I mean Payback i suppose
She took her with her to the woods aw
“As much as I wish things could be the way they used to be, we can’t go back!” hey im Feeling things
“Dont you get it? Im NEVER going with you!”
FUCK 
softly but with lots of emotion: fuck
Why does this old witch lady function in the au
“This happened before with Mara!” o- oh.
Im so confused
This is intense as all fuck “Bow and Glimmer! I need to find them!” love will save the world
CATRA IS ALIVE?! Catra is.. oh god. Oh what the fuck
episode 6
Oh Glimmer and her mom getting along.. havent seen that in a while
OH HE GLIMMER’S DAD IS ALIVE IN THIS WORLD?? OHHHHH
Bow is.. scholarly
Well at least theyre still friends
“Woah you look different than your mural..” lol
Where do I recognize Micah’s voice from??
EKDHFJ THEY STILL DONT HAVE A PRISON IN THIS AU
Glimmer’s outfit is a little different and I dont like it
Adora talking up her friends to prove she knows them is everything
BOW GRABS HIS SHIRT WHEN HE SAYS “THIS ISNT RIGHT”
okay Angela looks fierce as fuck here
How.. lucky that they just warped to Entrapta’s side
Trapped between realities.. uh oh
Whos gonna die in the portal
“That portal is centered on you!” FUCK?
MARA IN THE FLESH KINDA
ADORA CANT SACriFICE HERSELF BITCH
her friends monologuing about her- BEFORE THEY DISAPPEAR I- //WIPES TEAR
i was LITERALLY about to say ‘where’s Catra. this is the perfect time for her to show up.’ Lol. I was right!
HEY ADORA demon version 😬
Catra this is all YOUR fault fuckin hoe
All their past battle spots..
THIS IS INSANE
“I didnt break the world. But I am gonna fix it. You made your choice. Now live with it!” i have. no words
watching Catra disappear still hurt me .
.. ANGELA! Wait Wait Angela No
She cant go
Glimmer would be an orphan
“And now I chose to be brave. Take care of each other.” Im not crying you are Im not crying Adora is I am
That glare at Catra, holy shit
Glimmer didnt even get to say goodbye to her mother. Their last talk was a fight.
Bow pickin up Glimmer!
im gonna cry AGAIN
//whispering/ does that mean Glimmer is queen?
Oh fuck Big Baddie found Etheria
FUCK!
FUCK ME UP.
I was not prepared for this at all
anyway UH. if any of yall wanna yell with me feel free to respond or send an ask or a message or whatever. lets suffer together
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hyperdrivehearts · 5 years ago
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Is the number ask thing still something you do? If so, 2, 15 and 18 please ^-^
QUESTIONS FOR THE MUN, REGARDING THE MUSE
(Always accepting these anon!! Seeing people ask me things (especially strangers on anon– it makes me happy that people are interested in my muses!!))
2. What made you decide to write this muse? 
Kalin and Yusei have always been my favorite 5ds characters, ever since it originally aired in Canada! There’s this channel called YTV (youth television) that had a Saturday morning bit called Crunch where you’d get your regular Saturday morning cartoons, and in the early afternoon some anime would air! It was always in this order: Beyblade Metal Fight, Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds, Pokemon Diamond & Pearl.) My parents were and are seperated, so I was only able to catch episodes every second week (I relied heavily on the previous episode recaps but it would mess me up when things would have repeats) had a very hard time remembering the name of 5Ds for some reason, and was never able to catch up online of missed episodes like I did for beyblade.
Because I never could catch up on what i missed, I didn’t get back into YGO as a whole until 2012, where I originally wrote Yusei on wattpad in my original Dark Signer AU. (He had a really cool old lady seer for a friend (who was supposed to be Carly’s grandma(??)) and I had a self insert OC who was Crow’s sister and was supposed to be Yuseis love interest (how how far I’ve come.) ANYWAYS what I’m getting at here, is that Yusei has been a muse of mine since like 2012.
I rewatched 5D’s in about…..2016?? Maybe later????And then again not long after I met Kasa ( @soulburnings ) on her Manjoume blog, and then Kasa made her Yu boys blog, and THEN HER CURRENT BLOG FOR TAKERU and it’s Kasa’s fault entirely for getting me back into YGO. Since Kalin and Yusei were my faves back then (What can I say?  I love batshit murderers and cool bro characters– I have terrible tast,) it only felt natural to gravitate back towards them.
TLDR: Blame Kasa. Ily Kasa.
15. Would you like your muse as a person if you met them in real life?
Yusei could get along with a fucking LAMP POST honestly. He’s friendly, understanding, a bro, and he’s very patient with people and always sees the best in them. I feel like he’d be a person you could spill tea to, and he’d never tell a soul.
Kalin on the other hand…. not so much. Enforcer!Kalin would have definitely been someone I could get along with, while Dark Signer!Kalin would, y’know, try to kill me as one does. My Present!Kalin and hell, even canon Present!Kalin, are not a) approachable, b) are very open c) they both have the habit of shoving people away. And like, I also self project onto Kalin A LOT, and something that not a lot of people seem to realize that if you met someone so similarly like you, ESPECIALLY in the negative aspects, you probably wouldn’t get along that well and butt heads.
18. What aspect of your muse’s personality is most important to you? What aspect of your muse’s personality do you think is most important to them? Is it the same? Why or why not? 
Unpopular opinion: the fandom likes to make Yusei seem like an “uwu good cinnamon roll boi who can do no harm uwuwu” so for me, personally, it’s very important to acknowledge that he has one hell of a petty attitude and temper. It’s established right from episode 1, where he revs his engine because his friends didnt realize he was back home in the subway– he doesn’t say anything (and the reaction of Tank, Nervin, Blitz and Rally implies that this is a regular occurrence with him.) Yusei has shown on multiple occassions that he isnt afraid to throw his disk down and knock sense into someone with his fists. He built another, and better duel runner, to go after Jack solely for his Stardust Dragon card– it wasn’t even a revenge plot, he just wanted what was rightfully his.
(Not to mention, he has one hell of a resting bitch face. He’s scowling so much, I don’t think he even realizes it.)
Despite all of this, from destroying duel disks and decks as an Enforcer, to he and Jack punching each other in the face, I think it’s equally important to know that even when Yusei is being a bit of a prick, he doesn’t hold onto negativity and resent– he essentially doesn’t hold any grudges. (However, he does hold onto grief and sadness, so much so that Luna picks it out while communicating with his duel spirits in the dub.) After he got Stardust back, while he was still rightfully peeved at Jack for his actions, Yusei forgave him and moved on.
Despite all of Yusei’s good qualities, and being an excellent friend, Yusei does have negativity inside of him and that part shouldn’t be ignored. People are not black and white.
As for what he values about himself: nothing. Yusei doesn’t really have an ego. He knows he’s good at dueling, he knows he’s good with technology and mechanics, but hes humble about both things. He doesn’t value one over the other. He loves his friends, and protecting them is second nature to him, but he believes that everyone needs to value the people they’re close to, so it’s not really a part of his personality that he finds the most important.
Honestly, if theres anything that he’d think that’s the most important to him, it’s his pride. I know that sounds selfish, especially when it’s in Yusei’s case, but when Kalin crushed his pride, it shook him to the core where Yusei felt as if he didn’t trust himself dueling. For him, I don’t think its a matter of honour as much as it is a matter of justice. He takes pride in his friends and family, he takes pride in being a Satellite, he takes pride in fighting for the right thing: it’s less about himself than it is about other people.
For Kalin, I’m going to solely focus on my portrayal bc fuck canon, but anyways, it’s his determination to keep fighting, to keep living and knowing that people can change. He probably valuse that part of himself too, but he’d never admit it.  Kalin has literately gone through hell and back, and has come out entirely traumatized, but he doesn’t let that trauma win.
(suicide mentions below.)
Kalin’s suffering from PTSD and depression, and he is suicidal, yet he never truly gives up (until he’s sent to the mines in Crash Town, really.) When he first arrived at Crash Town to die, he could have lost his duel on purpose, but he never did until Yusei showed up. I think a part of it is pride, not wanting to go down without a fight, but I don’t believe Kalin was only fighting other duelists– he was fighting himself and his right to live. He already offed himself in the Facility.
As someone who tried to commit suicide twice, it’s important that Kalin keeps on fighting through it. There’s going to be bad days, days where you can’t leave your bed, days where you let out a nice cry in a hot shower. Keeping yourself going, for any reason, is very important because things do get better. (Im not great, but im better, and so is Kalin.) If that reason is as small as needing to feed your cat, its a good reason to keep going. For Kalin, he wanted to see Yusei once more and then he’d be satisfied.
Kalin’s not perfect, he is an ass and he knows that, but he does want to be better so other things can get better for him and rebound off of each other. (I was a prick too when I was in that mental state.) Things get better, but you also need to take charge and make it better yourself and Kalin knows he can force light into the darkness he was wallowing in for nearly 4 years.
It’s not a personality point, but I’m sure Kalin is just happy to be alive.
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(based on your previous ask) do you mind if I ask how you feel about lok? is there a general consensus if it's good or bad? youre really insightful and just wanted to know if there were any major issues you had with it
yeah sure, i’ll do my best. if you want a quick answer to your question, here is a link to some of my other korra posts where i say pretty much the same thing as i do here, just in fewer words. cause this post will be mostly an unhappy summary of my experience watching the show. this post will contain spoilers, and disclaimer, i am a really biased, disappointed asshole, so i’ll just admit that now. 
short answer: i liked the concept of lok more than the product we got. a lot of that is because you had a physically buff brown wlw protagonist written mostly by cishet white men and, as you can imagine, it wasn’t handled great. when i think of lok now i tend to fluctuate between bittersweet nostalgia and quiet, simmering rage.
if you don’t care about the show summary, skip at the middle paragraph break down to my tldr.
so for those who don’t know, LOK was really my first “big” fandom on tumblr. when it was announced, a bunch of ATLA purists were already hating on it because 1) brown woman, 2) it was unrealistic to go from ATLA’s technology to streampunk in 70 years, and 3) it wasn’t ATLA, basically. it was my first big interest that i got to participate in as it was airing, and i was really excited about it. i defended it, i wrote meta, i liveblogged, i wrote tons of fic and spammed theories/wants before the damn show even had a release date. all that is to say, i was Invested, and i believed in it before i even saw it. people called me a bnf, i’m not sure if that’s true, but i did gain a lot my followers in my first few years on tumblr by posting korra stuff. a lot of them – hello – i think are still around today (i’m not certain how all the video games hasn’t scared them off yet)
i should say at this point that my opinion of LOK the show has been really wrapped up in the ugly stain left by the fanbase. korra the character has been the subject of tons of racist, misogynistic criticism since the moment we saw her back; when she showed up on screen as a proud young woman who fought with authority and stood up for herself, that was the nail in the coffin for her reputation. i agreed that she had a bit of growing up to do, because ATLA/LOK have always been stories about coming of age and maturing, but i disagreed strongly with this notion that she deserved to be “humbled,” which is what a lot of fans were looking for.
the overall consensus on if it’s “good” depends on who you ask. most people agree that ATLA is better overall: it was better plotted because it benefited from more writers in the room and more episodes to flesh out the world. opinions on LOK specifically range based a lot on their opinions of the K/orra/sami pairing, if they were involved in or what side they were on in any of the fandom wank, and also just complete random chance.
i’ll go more in depth into my ‘history’ with the show below, but i just wanted to mention that all the while the show was airing, korra was being hit with waves of criticism by so-called fans for basically being a confident brown woman who were calling for her to learn her place, respect her elders, etc. another common theme was fandom’s brilliant fucking idea that asami, a light-skinned feminine non-bending woman who was more polite and reserved than korra, would’ve made a better avatar. because you know why. (korra was often described as brutal, rough, unsophisticated, next to pretty, perfect asami. and asami is a fine character, to be clear, but that’s what she was – fine. nothing really stands out about her, which is a fault of the writing, because she had a lot of potential too.) so anyway all of this did sour my mood toward engaging with other fans outside my friend circle.
it was around maybe the middle of book 1 that i realized the writing for the show was simpler than what i was expecting – not that it was childish, which it was (because it was written for children, i understood that), but i felt like the plot meandered and the twists came out of nowhere. it felt like they were making it up as they were going, and it opened threads it didn’t answer. one of the biggest threads was the equalist revolution, which was a very sensitive topic that got jettisoned when the leader was revealed to be a fraud, and that devalued the entire movement in an instant. really disappointing, because i was looking forward to seeing that addressed. for a lot of people, this was a dealbreaker, and they started walking. i stuck with it, but loosely.
book 2 aired, focusing on the spiritual world and some really cool history. it still suffered a lot from awkward b-plots and loose threads it didn’t know how to tackle. korra lost her memory and then regained it 2 episodes later with no consequences, mako flip-flopped between korra and asami because bryke don’t know how to write teenage romances without making it a love triangle, and at some point bolin kissed a girl against her will and they didnt acknowledge that at all? i honestly don’t remember. anyway at the end of book 2, even though korra saves the day and prevents the world from descending into darkness for ten thousand years, due to events beyond her control, korra loses the spiritual connection that ties her to all of the previous avatars – aang, roku, kyoshi, wan, everyone. and people hit the fucking ceiling. “korra’s not a real avatar if she lost her connection to the old ones! that’s the entire point of the cycle! this show is bullshit, it’s not canon anymore!” (the entire point that finale demonstrated that korra’s power alone was enough to save the world and she didn’t need anyone else. but people found that ~unrealistic~ i guess). as you can imagine, being a fan of LOK is starting to get a little tiring by now.
books 3-4 is where the korra haters got to love the show again, because they were both straight-up torture porn. after everything she did saving the world, this is the arc where korra got beat down, tortured, dragged into the dirt, swallowed and spat back out. book 3 is a lot of people’s favorites because it was the first book that felt fully plotted out before it was put on air, which is why i enjoyed it too. but for me it was difficult to see a girl, whose identity revolved around being the avatar after being raised and sheltered to think it was all she was good for, effectively abandon her life and even her name by the beginning of book 4 because the events of book 3 were that traumatizing for her. somehow this was character development. we were encouraged to stick with it because we hoped korra would find herself again. and she did, sorta.
but it makes me furious that people who had quit in books 1-2 came back during 3 because they heard these books were better – aka book 3, the book that featured korra the least, and books 3-4 in which korra got her ass handed to her in some of the hardest fights vs some of the cruelest villains of the series. (nevermind that the book 3 villains suffer from the anime villain curse: they quickly went from “cool character design” to “wait, how does this rando group of villains show up with powers literally no one in the universe has ever heard before?” – questions no one ever answers)
anyway book 4 is a mish-mash of… i’m not sure. i’ve rewatched all the books but i don’t know if i’ll ever touch this one again. the culturally appropriating airbender wannabe, zaheer (a complete rando who somehow masters airbending enough to fly, which was a huge middle finger to airbending masters aang and tenzin for no reason) a guy who literally tortured korra one season before and put her in a wheelchair, is the one who the writers send korra to for her spiritual awakening that lets her save the day. not tenzin or jinora, her spiritual teachers with whom she has positive, healthy relationships – they send her back to her abuser who terrifies and degrades her a bit more before deciding to help. this was a pattern: the writers made both korra and asami face their abusers (in asami’s case, her father) for catharsis instead of gaining peace over their trauma another, healthier way because…. i’m not sure why. there is no reason why. and then there’s the guilt tripping nonsense of asami feeling as if she had to forgive her father, who tried to kill her, because he said he was sorry and sacrificed himself for her in the finale. it’s angst galore, if you like that kind of thing, which i normally do, except this is less angst and more just the writers trying to hammer in torture porn, grimdark, and poor attempts at morally gray nonsense into their finale season.
anyway at the end of her journey, korra, our buff brown woc, learns that she had to suffer to learn how to be compassionate and relate to her enemy. i’m not exaggerating, she literally says that. which is lovely.
tldr: i wasted a lot of emotional time and energy into this show and was extremely disappointed when some of the ending’s notes were “you had to suffer to become a better person” and “forgive your abusers/villains because aren’t we all the same in the end?”
but also on a strictly narrative level, LOK also bit off way more than it could chew both emotionally and thematically. it had an amazing premise, but it was not committed to
utilizing the steampunk genre to its best potential in the bending world (after the creativity in the rest of the worldbuilding, the LOK series finale was literally fighting a giant robot – seriously?)
giving its hero the respect and character arc she deserved. and i don’t say that because i think korra had no growing up to do in b1, she did, but she didn’t deserve for it to happen like that.
so basically i realized that a lot of the writers that made ATLA great weren’t brought back for LOK, and it showed. i realized that the LOK writers, when they listened to fans, were listening to the fans that whined the loudest, or (more likely, since they plan seasons years before we see them) they thought from the beginning that it was a good idea for korra to go through years’ worth of pain just to be spat out a humbler, “better” person
the reason i told you all that about me defending LOK in the beginning is because i need you to understand that i believed in LOK longer than i probably should’ve. i wanted it to be everything i was expecting in a diverse children’s show with an unorthodox female protaganist. but just because they had a brown wlw heroine doesn’t mean that they deserved to be praised for it when they treated her like garbage.
and korra and asami walk into a beam of light together in the last second of the show and i’m supposed to applaud the writers for their bravery or something
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19possums-blog · 6 years ago
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ZZX reaction to JY return after his 3 years absence : wut
So im kind of thinking out loud, but i was wondering why JY and ZZX relationship changed so much before and after JY kidnapping. Im sure someone else in the fandom talked about this bc i doesnt make any sense, but anw !
My main hypothesis is that OX didnt know what this manhwa was going to be and where they were going with the story at first. So when 19 days wont be a big flashback anymore and OX will rejoin the ‘present’ timeline, they will have to do a big big retcon of the beginning of the manhwa. Which is okay, i mean i write too and i basically dont have any idea where im taking my story and characters lol.
Because at the beginning, when JY return to ZZX after his 3 years disappearance, ZZX and JY basically act like almost strangers, cold and distant (well, as cold and distant as JY can be lol). They seem like some sort of estranged childhood friends. And ZZX is like “oh its this airhead, who would think i would see him again”. And like it doesnt compute with the story we’re reading at the moment !!
Right now, JY confessed to ZZX, and ZZX accepted his declaration and is reflecting on his own feelings, while acknowledging that JY is very important to him too -even if he doesnt seem too sure on how to label their relationship. ZZX acts like a caring mother towards his best friend, by comforting him, by massaging him, etc. Most of all, he’s worried about this kidnapping thing which seems to be recurrent in JY’s life lol, and is legitimately distrustful of He Cheng and Brother Qiu.
So presently, we have ZZX who :
-is aware and accepting of JY’s romantic/sexual feelings towards him
- have deep feelings for JY, no matter what this feelings are, and act upon them
-is aware that theres something wrong with JY’s life that makes the latter be kidnapped regularly and is therefore worried about him and inquired about JY’s life’s event
And OX want me to believe that when JY will disappear and reappear out of thin air three years later, ZZX will be unhappy and distrustful ?  and would just ask JY “so what happened” and wont care about JY’s answer ? and they will basically be back to square one after all this development between them in the last chapter ???
So either OX is a genius and thought of something that would make sense of what i just said, that would explain how all this development is just,, cancelled, or OX didnt anticipate their story and will be kind of stuck up if they dont retcon the very beginning of the story.
Obviously, im inclined towards the second option. I think OX began their story wanting to write a goofy relationship between two childhood idiot best friends which would be a succession of funny moments between them, with borderline shonen-ai tone. Lets not forget that at first 19 days was a compilation of illustration without story. And then OX wanted to introduce dramatic moments ; but to create dramatic moments, we need a story behind them. And thats how Zhanyi relationship development came to be, and how the mafia storyline wasnt just a funny ‘hey this idiot is actually a big boss son lmao!!” but a major plot point that threatens the relationship of the two friends.
I have other ‘evidence’ that point towards this hypothesis : theres quite a number of time when ZZX and JY relationship doesnt make sense. example 1 :  Remember how at the very beginning of the flashback, how JY goes to ZZX house and it seems like its the first time he went there ? And JY isnt aware that ZZX have a sister which he is quite fond of ?? If they were best friends since they had 5 years old, im pretty sure they should be aware of the other’s family. They should also have gone to each other house many times. But here OX shows that they basically dont know anything about each other while still being best childhood friends. I think OX wanted to depict the creation and blossoming of a strong friendship, but it cant happen in the span of a few weeks... so they added that they were childhood friends to add more depth but thus it doesnt  quite feel right.
example 2 : More recently, JY have been ‘kidnapped’ by brother Qiu to go to He Cheng house in the last chapters. Just before, ZZX was shown to be distrustful of Qiu when Qiu brought JY to school with his scooter. But when JY come to school the day after, ZZX doesnt seem to care at all that JY is living and training in He cheng’s house ?? he doesnt even ask questions, wtf ???
Like make up your mind OX, do you want ZZX to be a concerned friend with strong feeling towards JY, or do you want him to be an aloof guy whou couldnt care less about JY ?? You cant have both :/ if you want the first scenario, you’re going to have to write a more dramatic story with less funny moments. If you want the second scenario, you have to stop writing poignant scenes between JY and ZZX.
Actually, it articulates why im not too fond of the Zhanyi ship (it isnt believable, and its frustrating because it could be ! the love confession was the most intense shit in the manhwa!! and im saying this even though i largely prefer tianshan!!) and my main problem with 19 days : sometimes its just not coherent. I hope OX will make up their mind !!
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rose-against-dersecest · 7 years ago
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this is a point i havent seen made before but ive had on my mind. i feel like theres an argument to be made that seeing trans fetish porn in fandom, esepcially that of minors, when youre a trans minor can be validating and results in adults taking advantage of that. i can only speak for myself but for the longest time the only place i didnt see trans people treated like shit was in fandom. (1/4)
admittedly trans people were still greatly fetishized but its better than nothing was how i felt. i liked seeing trans headcanons but the majority of time i would see them was in porn, more specifically stridercest porn that usually blatantly fetishized trans people and gay men too. i often replicated what i saw in porn because i was told it was normal and this contributed to csa and retraumatization.(2/4)
i feel like the porn i saw specifically being trans fetish porn contributed because "this is a character like you, this is normal, this is how cis people want to see you, this is how you get validation" was my thought process and adults encouraged that. its also worth pointing out that nearly every trans person i know was also hurt by fandom and the vast majority of antis i know are trans.(3/4)
i feel like this is a bit rambly, way too long, and not making a lot of sense but what im getting at here and my main idea is the way fandom loves cp and incest combined with how it fetishizes trans people makes for an especially toxic and dangerous environment for trans kids who are very vulnerable to begin with and i think it needs to be talked about more.(4/4)
I totally agree!! And yeah, when you’re a closeted trans teenager with no support systems in real-life, the fetishization of trans people (by fandom, or the internet as a whole) is at least some positive reassurance that you exist and there’s others like you. It’s also true that adults / pedophiles online seek out targets to latch onto and “befriend” for the sake of taking advantage of them being transgender, interested in their fandoms, or willing to discuss with and/or create fetish material for them.
I’ve also heard that a lot of trans people first find out they’re transgender from porn! Specifically, in the late 2000′s internet’s age of easy access to porn, many kids’ first introduction into transgender identities starts with stumbling onto seeing “traps.” Those are horrible, violently misrepresented depictions of trans women, but it’s true that for many trans women that they could only see themselves represented in fetish material for years, growing up.
And now that I think about it, for basically any LGBT person, it’s been kind of a common tradition to first find out that you can be non gender-conforming or be into the opposite sex by accidentally discovering it through porn? In real-life people will be outwardly disgusted by gay, trans, bi people, etc. etc., but in closed-doors cishets fetishize us and are willing to acknowledge we exist on the anonymity of the internet... That sucks, and I wish we had (and have) more positive representations of us in popular media, but there’s not much we could do.
AND YEAH!!!! Stridercest was the biggest source of trans Dave that I can remember, and I think futa!Porrim and Kanaya were the most common “dick-girl” headcanons for the female characters. And holy shit yeah, Stridercests fetishized being gay and conflated that with being interested in your brother/father, and so many fujoshis and fujoshi-supporting gay men drew tons of Stridercest... It was fucking everywhere, and I think as a gay man I was basically forced to like it? Because it was so widely accepted and like John’s “I’m not gay!!” shtick turned me off, but Dirk being gay and in love with his brother was something that validated me as a gay man, and I’m feeling sick thinking about it, but that was the truth when I was like. Goddamn. Thirteen, fourteen, early fifteen years old. I’m so, ugh. And like as a horny gay teen there was a surplus of Stridercest porn compared to any other pairing, so even though DaveJohn was also my first and favorite ship, I’d consume five to ten times as much Stridercest, just because it was so normalized and available.
And I absolutely concur that most antis are trans / gay / ex-fujoshis or ex-shippers that were hurt by fandom and preyed on / manipulated for years to believe that incest/abuse/trans/shota/loli fetishizes were okay. I tried writing a Stridercest fanfic that I showed to my thirty-year old friend on dA (who often would draw me in sexualized poses & would Skype with me all the time to where I was afraid to log onto Skype because he’d always begin talking to me and so I just deleted Skype and left my friends on it) when I was fourteen and like. At the time I was like, this is perfectly normal and okay! Teehee! I was so. I could’ve been taken advantage of so fucking easily and I’m so lucky that I wasn’t, because god, I was in that vulnerable mindset and had my own shota blogs that adults would follow and try to talk to me on, and just. Yikes. Yikes. Yikes!!!
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monotype-on-phantom · 7 years ago
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i didnt want to say this before but man.. Danny kind of.. sucks, at least in the heart of canon. i get that he's young and learns "Those Valuable Lessons" and but people dont acknowledge most of this douchebag's shitty antics cause he's a cute boy or whatever. although Danny has a very excellent premise for a character, he is sincere sometimes, but overall its not executed well. he falls into too many awful high school tropes
i guess im glad people are making use of his character premise by reading too closely than the show intended, or by making content of their own interpretations. but we cant ignore that he is quite a goddamned piece of hell shit who i fucking hate in the real show sometimes. i feel there’s just too much emphasis on a character and show that wasn’t well crafted and well managed to begin with. its kinda sad when all the hate is somehow directed towards other characters like Sam.
it feels like most people are praising him and the overall show for what they imagine it to be instead of what it actually is. srsly this awful goddamned fuckboy sells stuff garage lab items he aint supposed to just to buy some fucking clothes??? uses ghost powers to spy girls in their locker room?? he fuckin destroys ghost writer’s writing and then doesnt feel sorry about it just cause it’s christmas-related and he’s so pissy about it.
so.. yeah. i dont get why people think he’s literal kid Jesus and always wants to protect this little fucker. he puts himself in alot of mess. the “D” on his suit stands for “dick”, bc that’s what he is.  i want to beat him up sometimes
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Okay.
Normally, I delete all character hate on sight, because the point of my blog is to focus on the show’s strengths and how the weaknesses could’ve been done better. I get critical sometimes, but I like focusing on a characters’ strengths rather than their poor writing and garbage like that.
This was so long, detailed, and harsh that it’s really hard to ignore. Maybe I should. Stick to my guns and not let some anonymous rant change how I work. You came to me, though, so if you want to debate this, then alright. I’ll bite.
First off, who in the fandom is portraying Danny as a kid Jesus? Maybe it’s just the circles I’m familiar with, but one of the most reblogged posts that pops up in my notifications is one with a ton of additions arguing why Danny totally deserves to suffer. The majority of the fandom loves tormenting this kid. Even those that do say he needs to be protected never claim he has no flaws. Far from it. They just acknowledge he has it hard for a kid and he deserves a break sometimes.
Second, have you ever…met a 14 year old? As someone who spent most of his career life working with kids and who is the oldest of 5 (with one brother who’s turning 14 this November), lemme tell you that the main trio are saints for their age.
People talk about the terrible twos, but 14 year olds are so much worse. I’m not slamming them, because it makes sense. They’re in a tough transition period between childhood and adulthood. Adults tell them to act more mature, but refuse to acknowledge their voices in serious situations. Middle school and high school are cutthroat places, and one mistake can ruin the entirety of the four-six years you spend there. They’re pressured to get good grades or they’ll fail, they have to be part of the cool crowd or they’ll fail, and people are more likely to blame them for whatever goes wrong in their lives than anything that goes on around them.
Doesn’t change the fact that they can be little demons sometimes. With all the hormones and drama, young teenagers can be really emotional and make problems bigger than they seem. They can be harsh and judgmental, because that’s the environment they’re being exposed to. They need guidance, but they don’t want it. They argue with adults and to some, it seems like they want to make their own lives miserable. They can be tough to work with unless you’re willing to take them as seriously as they take themselves, and most people don’t want to bother.
There are shitty things Danny does in canon, but that’s true for literally every fourteen year old. And heck, are you telling me you didn’t do some ridiculously stupid stuff at that age? I actually stole money from my folks to buy something I wanted. My group of friends frequently set stuff on fire in their backyards. And fuck, nobody can prove Danny was spying on girls in the locker room. While I think the scene is shit and refuse to accept it as canon, all we see is Danny coming out of the locker room. He could’ve been just looking to see what it was like in there. Nothing says there were actually girls in there. But I’m so sick of talking about that shit scene, so I’m gonna leave it at that.
Danny has flaws. He can be selfish and petty and inconsiderate. But really? You wanna beat him up for that?
Are you forgetting that he canonically already does get beaten up every single episode? Whether it’s by ghosts, bullies, his own goddam parents, or whatever, getting beat up is something he’s familiar with.
The reason some fans cut him some slack is because, hey, yeah. He is a kid, and you know what? He’s entitled to be a dick sometimes. He loses sleep every night, almost dies on a daily basis, has his dreams ripped away from him often, and is picked on at school. Despite all of that, he still fights ghosts to keep his town safe, and he’s under no obligation to do that. He saves lives, even when people hate him for it. He puts himself in danger, even for those who are cruel to him. He tries to use his powers for the right reason more often than not, and he’ll take the high road against his bully because he feels like he shouldn’t stoop to his level.
We acknowledge that canon can be shit. We acknowledge that sometimes, Danny’s writing makes him out to be a dick. At the “heart of canon,” though, as you so eloquently put it, he’s the kid who risked his life for a little girl he barely knew that nobody else would miss. He’s the one who saves the lives of his own bully, the teacher who used to be so hard on him, and the parents he fully believes would cut him open if they knew what he was. He’s the one who could so easily be Vlad, but instead he tries his best to be a hero.
You’re under no obligation to like him, and you don’t have to ignore the shitty parts of canon like some of us do. I do it just because I enjoy thinking about what the show could’ve been, not what it was. You don’t have to do that, though.
But really, are you going to march into your nearest high school and beat the shit out of the first kid you see messing up? Seriously? You honestly think that the mistakes Danny makes outweigh the good he’s constantly trying to do enough that he deserves that? Even when he already gets beat up in every single episode already?
Well, fine. That’s your pessimistic opinion. It’s not fact, though. How many cartoons do you watch? You gonna beat up Timmy Turner and Jimmy Neutron, too? They can be right assholes. What about Jake Long? He’s a shallow, obnoxious, irresponsible kid a lot of the time. Sure, he’s just 13, but why should we show mercy to kids who mess up? Serena/Usagi from Sailor Moon? Yeah, let’s ignore all the people defending her and just focus on the fact that the show makes her a dumb kid who doesn’t have enough backbone to immediately become the savior of the galaxy. Come to think of it, where’s your rant about Dash Baxter? Or is he not popular enough for you to rag on?
Perfect characters aren’t the ones who are the most upstanding. They’re the ones who are realistic and flawed. So Danny sells his parents stuff. So he sneaked into the girls’ locker room. So he took out his anger on an innocent person.
I’m not saying any of those things weren’t wrong, what I’m saying is that kids make fucking mistakes. And sometimes, they’re huge ones. Sometimes, kids get curious and break into a house. Sometimes they get hungry at the store and shoplift. Sometimes they lie and cheat and make fun of each other. Sometimes they can be perverted little leaches.
So fucking what? We’ve all been there. We all need to learn and grow.
And seriously, if you’re going to be one of those people who gives Sam a break, don’t turn around and start criticizing Danny for the same shitty writing he sometimes gets. That hypocrisy is exactly why I so adamantly defend Sam.
I don’t know what you wanted to accomplish with these asks. Maybe you just wanted to vent. Maybe you were looking to stir up drama. Maybe you don’t know what you wanted and you just sent these asks randomly without any real reason.
Regardless of what you think, I’m still gonna enjoy my fucking fictional character, even if I don’t always agree with how he’s written. I relate to him, his struggles, and even his mistakes. You have fun ripping on characters people like because you don’t think they should be allowed to make mistakes, but let the rest of us have our fun, too. You’re not helping anyone with this, so maybe just fuck off, m’kay?
Being stupidly nice is kind of my thing, but I’m tired of putting up with this self righteous crap. Let characters fuck up. Let fans rewrite things they don’t like. Let people enjoy their fucking cartoon, because they aren’t hurting anyone. I’ve yet to find a single phan who considers the DP cartoon to be completely canon anyway. They enjoy it for the fan content or the few really spot on episodes. We’re already aware that there’s shitty stuff in there, and we don’t need you to tell us.
If I ever get any asks like this that rip on characters for stupid, petty reasons again, I’m deleting them on sight. That was my initial plan anyway, but I really needed to say my piece here.
Tumblr, maybe stop being such judgmental pieces of fucking shit, okay? You’ll accomplish nothing good by being so harsh toward anything that doesn’t fit your standard of “perfect.”
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empathetic-cowboy · 5 years ago
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I honestly want to read all of your answer for those asks. 1-40? Or those you like the most c:
UHM HONESTLY THIS IS MY FAVOURITE ASK EVER !!!!! 
Because I don’t have time to answer all 40, I’m going to give you TEN randomly picked questions from the list and answer below ~! 
(thank you random number picker!!!!) 
AND BE WARNED – THIS WILL PROBABLY GET LENGTHY. 
40. Do you think the movies did the books justice?
Yes and no. I will stand forever and die on the Catherine-Hardwicke-Did-It-Best hill. Above them all, I’d say that Catherine captured the essence of the books the most accurately. Maybe it’s the blue filter, I don’t know, but she got that creepy/sad/romantic Forks vibe that drew me into the series in the first place. She really got the perfect balance of romance, action, fantasy, high school, the whole thing. So yeah, I think she did a great job with the books. Chris Weitz did alright with New Moon – I love the brownish, jacob-y vibe, I think they adapted the script well and did a fan-fucking-tastic job on the soundtrack too, so that one would be my second favourite book-to-movie. The other two? Eh. I think they lost something that the books had. Eclipse WAS my favourite when it first came out but watching them now, I feel like the last three movies are just missing something wonderful that the first two movies and the first three books (sorry bd) had. 
28. How would you personally rewrite Twilight?
For those of you who haven’t seen it, I have a bit up on my personal twilight rewrite idea up here! It’s a little bare bones in terms of what I’d do with breaking dawn, but I can elaborate on that here! 
Going with the rest of my switch-new-moon-and-eclipse-au, I’d have Bella changed and conflicted starting in BD. I think it would be SUPER interesting to have the main conflict be something to do with the volturi and the shape shifters. Maybe the clan and the pack finally join forces bc Bella is changed but still loves her Jake, but out in the world shapeshifters are showing up dead at the volturi’s hand or something ??????? and they need to band together to save the wolves and Jake before the volturi eliminate the species altogether.
Could be interesting, IDK. There’s a lot less renesmess and an opportunity still for Jake to meet Benjamin so I’m all for it. 
37. What’s your perspective on Twilight now compared to when you first read it?
I think about this all the fucking time.When I first read Twilight, it was just before the first movie came out in 2008. I was almost twelve years old, and dumber than most twelve year olds, lbr. I didn’t see any issues in the book. I thought it was novel (pun intended), and romantic, and Hell, come Breaking Dawn I was even all aboard the Nessie train. I was SM brainwashed, kind of. I trusted our author. Coming back to Twilight in 2019 was a literal fucking shock to the system. I watched the movies for the first time in like five years, and was utterly shocked by the ample fucking problematic shit I noticed in every fucking scene. What hurt the most? Realizing my favourite character was the worst fucking show of racist propaganda in the entire goddamn series. I got angry when I watched the series again for the first time. I didn’t want anything to do with it. I felt ashamed, honestly. I felt bad looking at the piece of media, and seeing how twisted and disgusting and wrong so many parts of it were. But then I went online. I knew Twilight was becoming a thing again, and I didnt understand how such problematic media worked in this day in age, so I was curious to see what the discourse was like. Guys, I’m so fucking glad I did. There’s something so nice about being able to clearly see and discuss issues in this saga, while still appreciating that it digs into your nostalgia and has the opportunity to be so much bigger and better than SM ever intended. I love signing on here and seeing someone discuss our HCs – seeing how people take these characters and stretch and shift and mold them to embody what the world looks like today. I love coming here to read about favourites portrayed as characters of colour, or how said characters could be portrayed as trans,  or nb, or gay, or how this character could be better shown as A, B, C – you catch my drift. It’s not just that, either. It’s not just the changes that I appreciate, either.
There’s something about acknowledging the things that can’t be changed within the original text – starting conversations about the treatment of native characters, discussing the portrayal of females presenting characters, working through SM’s religious biases – that not only helps me appreciate what this text should have been / can be now, but seriously, has helped me learn a lot along the way. I’m a very faulty white girl. Coming here and learning new perspectives from people who are impacted by specific biases / choices made in this series has been one of the most eye opening experiences I’ve had online. And that’s another thing – I’ve never once been criticized for still having so much to learn, un-learn, or understand from a different perspective. The people in this fandom (so far – I feel very lucky) have been more than open in discussing their criticisms, concerns, and understandings in a way that makes me feel welcome, and encouraged to learn/understand more. It’s a super inclusive fandom –  freakin’ rare to see – but it’s also the kind of fandom that isn’t afraid to see its own faults – that’s even more rare. We’re all aware of our fandom’s problems, and we aren’t afraid to talk about them, or acknowledge the fact that SM’s beliefs aren’t a reflection of US. It’s special. It’s amazing. It’s why I’ve stuck around for almost a year now. 
3. Fave headcanon brotps?
Oh, dude. Seth / Edward Jake / Emmett Emmett / Paul Charlie / Billy Bella / Emmett Rose / Leah Carlisle / Sam Alice / Jake 
30. Which characters do you wish had their own spinoffs?
Oof. I think it would be SUPER interesting to have a whole spin-off series just on the wolves, actually! Not one in particular, but I think the whole world of shapeshifters could and SHOULD be explored more deeply!!!!!In terms of specific characters: Alice (duh), Carlisle (take me back to the 1800s or some shit show me his life in the volturi!!!!!), Leah Clearwater (she’d be my wolf-pack-spin-off main character). 
15. Top 5 fave vampires?
IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER: 
Alice, Jasper, Esme, Emmett, Rose.Yeah, they’re all Cullens. Suck my Olympic-sized dick. 
9. Astrology sign headcanons for the Cullens?
YEEEEEEEES. I am very stuck in my opinions for these, and I’m not sure why. It’s pointless, but I care VERY DEEPLY. Carlisle: Capricorn Esme: Pisces Edward: Gemini / Cancer cusp is perfect for this S.O.B.Bella: VirgoRosalie: ScorpioEmmett: Sagittarius Alice: Aries Jasper: Taurus (but I go back and forth on Jasper daily so ask me again tomorrow) 
13. Hogwarts house sorting headcanons for the wolf pack?
I’ve never considered this before, so this is first-instinct. Sam: Slytherin Paul: SlytherinEmbry: Gryffindor Quil: GryffindorJake: Gryffinpuff?? the man is brave, but he’s loyal to a GD fault. I think that might just be the wolfy traits comin’ through though. Leah: RavenclawSeth: Hufflepuff(just doin’ these guys to keep it simple) 
20. Pick a character you wish deserved a better fate (that wasn’t death).
Bree. Fucking. Tanner. 
Any chance I get to write something, I add in a redemptive arc for Bree Tanner because I can’t for the life of me understand out of all the characters why fucking SM decided to kill the one that DEFINITELY deserved a fucking soft and perfect life. 
Fuck you SM, Bree is alive and well. 
1. Fave wlw ships?
!!! YAY !!! Leah / Angela Bella / Rosalie Carmen / Esme AND THEN JUST BECAUSE I CAN: Edythe / Bella Jessamine  / Alice Carmine / Esme Julie / Leah Julie / Bella  
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groundramon · 7 years ago
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@extremely-pearlmethirsty Idk how old this reply is but what you said is really interesting so i wanted to respond-
I think the fact that 1. she’s a villain and 2. the fandom is so split on her is a testament to both what you said and the fact that she’s not an objectively bad character.  Obviously all media is subjective anyways but when half of a fandom is saying one thing and half of a fandom is saying another thing, there’s clearly no consensus.  So at least in Terra’s case, saying “people hate this character I relate to so I must be bad” isn’t very fair bc the consensus is so split (having said that, JP is another story lmao I dont think very many people like him and....yeah i dont blame them)  I was honestly just shitposting but it was still a lil concerning.
Maybe I just haven’t seen any well-structured arguments since ive been mostly avoiding the fandom bc im not done with the series yet, but most of the arguments I’ve seen basically boil down to “she made a mistake based on faulty logic” and...yes?  That’s exactly the point?  She felt human because she MADE MISTAKES, the point of fictional characters is for them to NOT BE FLAWLESS.  Was her mistake particularly larger than many of the other characters?  Yes.  But the point was that she had a flaw, that she was naive and stupid and easily convinced to throw away her morals because of her upbringing.  That was the point.  And a characters’ flaws can annoy you to the point of hating them, for sure, and that’s not good.  But that doesn’t mean they’re an objectively bad character.  Like I really hate Marcus from Digimon Data Squad but he’s probably the best character there; he’s a well-rounded character with flaws and reasons for those flaws, but he just...still manages to get on my nerves.  But I acknowledge that that’s personal bias and not “ew wtf how can other people like this character??” (and honestly I dont trust the opinion of anyone who acts that way when it comes to interpretation of media, ESPECIALLY tv shows lol)
The other argument that I’ve seen is that she just wasn’t given enough time to affect the audience the same way she affected the titans, and I do kind of agree with that.  Unless you fell in love with her character, you’re not going to feel the same pain that the titans would feel when she betrays them, which you clearly /should/.  Hell I didnt even feel the same pain because I was rooting for Terra the entire time //SHOT// so I wish they gave her more episodes in season 2 to flesh that out, but other than that?  I haven’t really seen a well-structured argument against her.  And I dont really think “oh well she COULDVE been better” is a reason to hate her; disliking her yeah maybe, but not hating her.
I do question if things would be that different if Teen Titans aired now though.  It’d really depend on what kind of fandom Teen Titans had, I think.  A fun fact I’ve learned through my time staring at pictures/facts about Terra and crying bc i love her so much is that she’s the most hated character in Teen Titans Go.  Why?  For interfering with a ship (the same ship).  And yknow, Teen Titans Go is (sadly) airing now.  But my point is that the same character is hated by a completely different (younger) group of people for the same exact reason.  “We’ve made a lot of progress in progressiveness” my ass, but i digress
But if Teen Titans had a fanbase like Steven Universe’s...I really dont know?  I feel like characters like Lapis and Peridot are popular because ~aesthetic~ and fandom hype (Lapis moreso than Peridot tho; Peridot handled her redemption arc pretty well, but Lapis....eh her actual redemption was fine even tho it wasnt really an “arc”, but everything after that is a little lacking...but thats just my opinion and besides the point lmaO) but then there are characters like Bismuth that the fandom is substantially more split on despite being about as morally gray as Terra.  Lapis and Peridot also tend to be prioritized because of ships, whereas Bismuth doesn’t have any ships that I know of (besides a crackship I came up with once lol) so...  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ reasons for hating Bismuth also tend to boil down to “well she tried to kill Steven!!” yes....yes that was the point...I know some people stan her because “well she changed her mind afterwards”/”so did all his other friends” but the point is that she’s flawed, the point is that she made a mistake, the point is that she’s so passionate that she’s willing to kill someone she loves to save her planet - and THAT’S (part of) what I like about her.  I dont even see anyone hinting that they dislike Bismuth’s personality though, unlike Terra, so I really dont get the Bismuth hate at all - buuuut I digress, that’s another thing I could rant about in the future if I really wanted to but I wont for now.
I feel like the fanbase would be less split on Terra because Bismuth is still generally liked I believe, but there’d still be a vocal group of people who hate her IMO because shipping wars haven’t gotten any better.
Zuko I feel like was a better-developed but less lovable Terra because he had 40ish more episodes dedicated to his character arc.  It’d be hard to argue that Zuko’s arc wasn’t well-done because you’d basically have to say the entirety of ATLA was a bad show, and I dont think I’ve seen anyone even attempt to argue that.  Terra had a handful of episodes to her name - Zuko had an entire 60-episode series.  Sexism could still play a hand in it because it seems like a lot of people take an instant liking to Zuko like I did to Terra (which I think Zuko is a fine character but he never gripped me anymore than a character with his level of well-developed-ness normally would) but  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it would definitely be interesting to see Terra’s reception in a modern world, but I feel like sadly not that much has changed.
(Also side note: I will actually fight anyone who says Raven hated Terra.  I know people think they’re feuding because “they both like Beast Boy” but pro tip: Raven never expresses anything like that and clearly trusted Terra before she betrayed the team.  Also bruh do people realize you can like the same person as someone else without hating that other person....wild right?  Dont slander my girls like this)
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