#iswm theory crew

[thermodynamic-comedian]

it just clicked in my head that in the mcu (markiplier cinematic universe), scientist rosanna is just like. stuck with three different versions of matpat that also canonically exist (mack, the hermit, and png matt from space theory. four, if you count theory crew and mack as seperate characters).

like imagine you're a part of the multiverse and there's three people walking around that look and sound exactly like your brother but have completely different personalities.

[books-no-bullets]

[imasimpcentral]

Burack Rant

"FUCK IT SO MUUUUUCH" here's my burack ship thread post cause I need to ramble about them feel free to not read this I just need to let my silly little thoughts out 😁

Burack is a ship that consists of Burt and Mack from In Space with Markiplier (ISWM) They have three ships names ship name number one is burack; which is just their names joint together

Now before I get to the other two ship names I have to say Mack has two variations Crew Member Mack (pictured on the left) and Dictator/Head Engineer Mack (pictured on the right) and Burt is a reactor specialist so his title is featured in both ship names

It should also be said that these are both Mack but in different universes, in crew member Mack's universe he isn't head engineer (though we can assume he is an engineer) and in the universe where he is Head engineer he basically takes over the role of engineer mark (pictured)

(cont.) who is basically the captain's (/y/n's) right hand man but in a universe where Mack is head engineer we see that he takes on a lot more of a dictator role if you allow him to take control of the ship, if you don't allow him to do this he essentially has an identity crisis and becomes mark (don't ask)

So thus their other two ship names are born with their second ship name being theoryreactor: it's a mix of Mack's crew self (seeing as he's simply deemed theory crew in the credits) and Burt's title of reactor specialist

It is likely Mack is deemed "theory crew" in this universe due to being played by matpat (creator of game, film, food, and style theory) that leads us to our third ship name corruptreactor: which is a combination of dictator mack and burt's reactor specialist title

Corrupt refers to how Mack is a very corrupt leader who takes advantage of those he rules over. Generally speaking I usually alternate their ship names but if I wanna get more specific these are the ships names I use.

Burack; all Burt and Mack variants

Theoryreactor; crew member Mack/all Macks [This is pretty much their default name that I lean to] - I also think theoryreactor is funny because someone can react to a theory and be a theory reactor.. idk

Corruptreactor; dictator Mack

Corrupttheory; evil/dictator Burt (very rare variation that is usually only based on au/HC)

No real distinction between ships names but if only one of them is evil or dictatory it's likely one sided (and angsty!)

Okay now that we got all their general info out of the way here are my headcanons for them!

Burt is trans guy but he doesn't really care what pronouns you use on them, they're just here. He's also panromantic and asexual. I give him a lot of angst but I swear I love him!

For example Burt had a husband and 2 children on earth but his husband died a year prior to him going on the space ship and he had to leave his children on the dying planet earth knowing they would die. ( I am evil ) Burt now feels guilty pursuing relationships. Due to how recent his husband's death was (or maybe it's been decades at this point who knows) he still feels bad and just pushes his feelings for Mack aside. That's all for Burt but now let's talk about Mack...

Mack is trans? (I really don't know I just know they're not cis...) they use they/he/it pronouns. He's also aromantic and gay. Crew Member Mack often finds himself unintentionally competing with Mark often feeling unworthy and like he doesn't deserve his job as crew member. Burt and him have a good relationship and Burt continues to tell them they're worthy, but Mack isn't able to take the praise as truth as he doesn't have a lot of friends or people who like them on the crew, they believe Burt's only friends with them out of pity. Hence why they often end up pushing her away.

Dictator Mack has a lot of identity issues as he knows he's not supposed to be here and he knows Mark's supposed to exist in his place ( but he'll never tell anyone this ) Burt and him have a generally okay relationship but it can be toxic... Mack will use Burt for his own selfish needs often times dismissing Burt entirely. He doesn't hate Burt he more so thinks very little of them. Burt tries to help Mack as best he can due to his respect for him but it can difficult. Burt feels some responsibility to help Mack as they're the only one Mack has opened up to. ( Mack seriously needs therapy ).

that's all for now friends if you read all the way here you get a cookie! 🍪

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I kinda ran straight to my editor when I realised there's a full version of The Last Goodbye and my editor kept playing up so it took me ages but here you go! Consider it a small labour of love for all the amazing effort Mark and his crew put into Space Part 2!

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I can't believe God gives us a new phone, raptures us to a completely different time, drops us from the sky AND TALKS LIKE A SHAKESPEAREAN CHARACTER

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WAIT IS WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING IN THIS MESS HOW WILFORD SEES THE WORLD?!

Time, space and reality broken and the ability to make wormholes?

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Mack: incredibly efficient and runs the ship well so the Captain doesn't have to do anything

Captain:

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I hate that my computer is dead because I have WORDS about my ISWM first run through

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#4

OK THIS IS THE PATH I TOOK FIRST RUN THROUGH I SHIT YOU NOT AND I SAW THIS WAS YHE TRUE ENDING I SWEAR TO FUCK IF I GOT IT FIRST TRY IM PUNTING MARK INTO THE FUCKING WARP CORE

ISWM

Fix Life Support

Wake up Crew

Call for Backup

Wake up Crew

Fix it from the Outside!

Send Mark in... Again

Go towards the Light

Jump in Again!

Call an Emergency Meeting

Send a Distress Signal

Attack

Send a Distress Signal

Throw down your Weapons

Open the Door

Don't open the Door

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AYO MARKIPLIER THEORY TUMBLR BITCHES /aff I HAVE A QUERY

Was it ever like

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Asking for a friend

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#5

My thoughts/theories after completing (most) routes of ISWM:

(SPOILERS FOR IN SPACE WITH MARKIPLIER FROM THIS POINT ON!!!)

- definite time-loop situation

- Actor Mark is involved somehow?

- cryo lady is just Celine in disguise ???

- Miss Whitaker is an old version of Celine, maybe?

- the Mark in ISWM genuinely doesn’t know what’s going on / is NOT Actor Mark (?)

- part 2 on May 2nd (hopefully)

- according to the ship’s name (Invincible II) Mark has engineered (and possibly been the captain of) a previous ship by the same name and is potentially responsible for whatever horrific ending it met

- this current ship is so poorly built/malfunctioning so much directly because of Mark’s “engineering” skills 😂

-where did the worm-hole come from?

-Wilford and Illinois appearances, brief Actor Mark appearance

-references to Heist and possibly ADWM

-lots of new characters introduced

- Old Man Mark = new ego ???

- not enough Chica

- Mark is a simp for the Captain 😂

-Lady Dimitrescu reference

-Among Us references

- part 2 will have more Wilford appearances and (hopefully) a Darkiplier appearance

- it took me a little over an hour to get my first ending

- I liked the little segment with the puppets 😂

- I’m hoping for a musical moment in part 2

- ISWM is a prequel to Heist (???)

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#4

Levitating - Head Engineer Mark x Captain Fanfic

“When I'm furthest from myself (Far away)

Feeling closer to the stars (Outer space)

I've been invaded by the dark (Can't escape)

Trying to recognize myself when I feel I've been replaced.”

still feel. — half alive

Part Seven:

Scene: Invincible II, crew quarters

[MARK tosses and turns in his sleep. It’s been three days since his encounter with his doppelgänger. He hasn’t told the CAPTAIN about the incident yet, afraid of how this new information might impact their relationship.]

Scene change: dream sequence

[MARK and the CAPTAIN are standing in a… manor? Except, the CAPTAIN looks different. They’re wearing formal attire instead of a space-jumpsuit. The term “district attorney” bounces around in MARK’s head for some reason.]

MARK: Captain? What’s going on?

[The CAPTAIN gives him a confused look. Their face is unobscured by a visor, at least, so MARK can easily read their expression.]

MARK: Have we been here before? Why does this seem so familiar?

[MARK glances down and sees that he’s wearing a red, silky robe—just like the one his lookalike was wearing the first time they met. In the background, sounds of laughter and chatter can be heard.]

MARK: [panicking] Seriously, Captain. What’s going on? Where are we? Is there… are we at some kind of party?

[The CAPTAIN continues staring at MARK blankly.]

MARK: I don’t understand… what is this? Do you know where we are?

[Seemingly ignoring MARK entirely, the CAPTAIN turns on their heel and starts walking toward a grandiose-looking living room area. MARK takes a step forward to follow them, but the scene abruptly changes from a manor to a… museum?]

MARK: [looking down at his change of clothing—an all-black outfit and what looks like gear for some kind of heist] What the hell?!

[The CAPTAIN, standing in front of them on what looks like a catwalk above the main floor of the large building, is wearing similar attire.]

MARK: [pleadingly] Captain, I don’t understand what’s going on! Did something happen with the Warp Core? Is this some kind of… alternate timeline or something?

[Again, the CAPTAIN just gives MARK a blank look. It’s almost as though they’re looking through him instead of at him.]

MARK: [under his breath] This has to be some kind of nightmare or something…

[The CAPTAIN once again walks away from MARK without acknowledging his existence. Once again, the scene changes. This time to… an Italian restaurant?]

MARK: Okay, c’mon! If this is some cruel trick of the universe or something, I’m over it! Can someone please explain to me what the hell is happening?!

[The CAPTAIN, wearing an outfit appropriate for a first date in the late 2010’s, finally responds.]

CAPTAIN: [softly, uncertainly] Mark? Is this… is this our date? I don’t remember how I got here…

MARK: [frantically, grabbing the CAPTAIN’s hands from across the tabletop] Something is very, very wrong, Captain.

CAPTAIN: [nodding] I know. I feel like… like we’ve been here before. But we haven’t, right?

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Levitating - Head Engineer Mark x Captain Fanfic

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“If you wanna run away with me I know a galaxy and I can take you for a ride I had a premonition that we fell into a rhythm Where the music don't stop for life.”

Levitating --- Dua Lipa

MILD SPOILERS FOR ISWM (Part One)

PART ONE

Scene: Invincible II, crew quarters

[Opening shot of MARK sitting on a cot.  The CAPTAIN enters from the hallway.]

MARK: [chuckling slightly] Let me guess, the toilet flooded again?

[The CAPTAIN nods once.]

MARK: Uh-huh.  Of course, it did.  This place is falling apart around us, isn’t it?

[MARK stands up and puts on his engineer uniform over his underclothes.]

MARK: You could’ve just called me over the intercom, y’know.  Unless... [with a smirk] don’t tell me this was just an excuse to see my pretty face?

[The CAPTAIN gives a noncommittal shrug from the doorway.]

MARK: [smile falling] Ah... right.  Wishful thinking, I suppose.  It’s just, well, we’ve been friends for so long and I--- [MARK shakes his head] Never-mind.  Um, I guess I should get going now.

[MARK avoids eye-contact with the CAPTAIN as he exits the crew quarters and heads for the communal bathroom.  The CAPTAIN watches him walk away and then returns to the control room of the ship.]

Scene Change: Invincible II, cafeteria

[MARK sits down at a table next to BURT and GUNTHER.]

MARK: Okay, which one of you idiots keeps clogging up the toilets?  You know it causes the entire bathroom to flood out.

BURT: It’s not my fault that they keep serving us these... [poking at the contents of food on his plate] whatever this stuff is!  Space burritos are not as cool as you might assume.

MARK: [a mildly repulsed look on his face] I... I don’t think I’d ever assume that anyway.  

GUNTHER: Why does all the food on this ship suck ass?  Weren’t you in charge of ordering all the supplies before we started this voyage through the cosmos?

MARK: [sheepishly] I may or may not have taken the cheapest supplier I could find at the time---but I was promised at least average quality on the food products!

BURT: I found a box of rations a couple days ago that were already several months out of date.

GUNTHER: Last week’s [using air-quotes] “meat surprise” had me up all night on the shitter.  I think I shat out part of my colon.

MARK: Uh... that’s gross.  But hey, speaking of dates... [smiling brightly] I think I’m finally almost ready to ask the Captain out.

BURT: [looking doubtful] That’s great, buddy.  But, um, haven’t you been saying that, like, basically ever since they stepped on-board?

GUNTHER: Yeah, dude.  It’s kinda embarrassing at this point, honestly.  You just gotta accept that they’re not into you and move on.

MARK: [affronted] Hey!  They are so into me!  I mean, we’ve been practically inseparable since they got here.

BURT: Bud, that’s ‘cause you’re a moron and someone has to keep an eye on you---no offense.  It’s just that, well, if the Captain didn’t bring you along with them so often, you’d probably have blown up the ship by accident by now.

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#2

ISWM Theory Time! (Sort of…)

(Kind of mild spoilers for ISWM if you haven’t seen it yet.)

Have we ever stopped to wonder why Actor has an interest in the viewer at all? I mean, think about it for a second. During WKM, all he cared about was getting back at Celine and William. If anything, in WKM the viewer (aka the DA) may have had a thing for Damien (though that’s never been confirmed by Mark). If we’re to believe that the viewer character in Date, Heist, and now Space are all the same character, then that would mean that Actor, for some reason, has a crush on that original DA character.

But why?

The easiest answer is that the viewer is the main character and the story revolves around them. Maybe that’s why so many people flirt with them in ISWM. It’s just a gag, so to speak. It’s just supposed to be kind of silly.

And maybe it is.

But also…

Actor really seems determined to take the viewer out on that date, doesn’t he? During the Noir route in Space, it gets mentioned that he’s too afraid to ask the viewer out. In one of the routes of Heist, he asks the viewer if they’re ready for their date with him. And then, of course, the viewer actually does go out on a date with Actor in ADWM.

But why is there this interest? Once again, it could easily just be because the viewer is the main character.

Here’s my theory, though: my theory is that Actor knows the viewer had feelings for Damien when they were the DA. And, since Damien eventually becomes Darkiplier (Actor’s chosen “villain”), I think the obsession with the viewer is Actor’s way of trying to sway them over to his side. Basically, a giant middle finger at Dark that says “ha ha ha, you can’t have them. They’re mine now. They’re in my universe and I make the rules here and in my story they fall in love with ME.”

I don’t think Actor cares about the viewer at all, he just doesn’t want anyone else having them (whether as a close friend or a romantic partner). And I think the only reason why Actor tries to prevent the viewer from dying (like in Space during the Fix It From the Outside videos) is because he doesn’t want his fun with them to be over. Since it’s all a game to him, since the viewer is just another plaything, Actor doesn’t want his favorite toy to get broken (or at least not broken in a way he can’t step in to fix).

Maybe that’s also why Dark is so jealous of Actor in Date. And why he’s so annoyed in Heist. He’s furious that the viewer chose Actor over him because he knows firsthand that Actor doesn’t give a shit about the viewer. Not really.

And yeah, Dark isn’t a good person either—but he was once Damien and maybe, just maybe, Damien did care about the viewer. Maybe Damien had feelings for them, too. And maybe Dark’s weird obsession with the viewer is a residual of that. Some fragment of emotion from the person he used to be.

And maybe Actor knows that, too. Maybe that’s part of it. Maybe that’s why he tries so hard to rub it in Dark’s face. Because, after all, what’s a better story than the hero saving the beautiful and/or handsome protagonist from the clutches of the terrible villain?

(Even though, in these stories, it seems to get harder and harder to tell the hero apart from the villain…)

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[faecaribou]

the scene where the Captain is supposed to give a speech but I literally have eyes for ONE CHARACTER and that is MATPAT

[riverstyxandsolidago]

Have been watching ISWM so have some screenshots with what I assume to be no big plot spoilers

My favorite is Matpat looking menacing

[riverstyxandsolidago]

Okay okay okay- but what about getting attached to ☀️both☀️

Mistakes were made when choosing which one to get attached to

[captain-neutrino]

Pspspsps + crewmate Mack. I feel like he would be really confused but would come anyway

[thermodynamic-comedian]

I'd like to hear about your headcanons for the iswm characters!!

YIPPEE im so glad you asked, let me just set up my powerpoint presentation-

iswm headcanons!

captain - queer, agender, they/them. since the captain's pretty much just the viewer, this is just my own interpretation of who i feel like i'm playing as in iswm.

mark - pansexual, guyflux, they/he. i just feel like he's a guy, but not a man. masculine in some ways, definently not in others. pansexual because they genuinely do not care about your gender, he's just helpessly attracted to you no matter what.

celci - bisexual, transfem, she/her. literally blue hair and pronouns and i love her. definently realized she was bi when watching pirates of the caribbean.

gunther - polysexual, transmasc, he/him. completing the holy trinity of m-spec invincible II members. you've heard of be gay, do crime, now get ready for be trans, throw hands.

burt - aroace, male, any pronouns. i feel like burt genuinely does not care what you refer to him as.

mack/theory crew - questioning, libramasc, he/him. closer to male than other genders, but still slightly different. the only invincible II crew member to not really be open about his sexuality, mostly because he's still figuring it out (the captain had to give him a whole 'it's totally fine if no existing label fits you, and you shouldn't feel rushed to figure out your own identity' talk)

lady/allu minium - sapphic, non-binary, they/she/xe. found out about gender when researching human culture, and was both excited that some of the labels fit them, but also mildly confused. "wait, humans have specific words for all of those things? but they're just normal personal stuff, why do you need words for those things?" (mark had to teach her why labels for different gender identities and sexualities exist. xe was less than charmed to find out queerphobia is a thing.)

bandit - bisexual, demigirl, she/they. believe it or not, she's actually had to pretend to be a human quite a few times when on the run, so the way humans identify is nothing new to them.

wug - unlabeled, pangender, all pronouns. there are multiple wugs, and it's shown that they can have preferred pronouns (e.g. that one wug who goes by she/her), but i think the wug we interact with the most feels perfectly fine being seen as any and all human genders.

[books-no-bullets]

Only thing I could get myself to do today

[tally-vi]

OK I may be overthinking BUT I rewatched A Heist With Markiplier recently and

Has anyone else noticed how the little gem on the box looks a lot like the warp crystal thing that the bandit gives you in ISWM? Could be coincidence but considering how the box behaves and the fact they look so similar makes me think it’s intentional 👀

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PLEASE give me drawing requests for the Invincible polycule I'M DESPERATE

[ironwoman359]

Who is Dorene Whitacre?

(Image: Dorene Whitacre is standing in a darkened room, illuminated by a pale blue  light. Black specks that resemble dirt or ash float through the air  around her.)

part 1 of this theory is here

Someone who in the first few videos of the run I thought was just a joke character might in fact be the key to unraveling the entire mystery. Even in her first few appearances, you realize very quickly that this is a character who knows more than she should.

(Image: Dorene is leaning towards you in the cryo room, next to a frozen Mark. She’s looking at you intently, saying “Makes you feel like you’ve been through all of this before.)

And then by the end, you know that she is somehow far more connected to the whole situation than you previously thought.

(Image: The credits of ISWM scroll on the right side of the screen as Dorene addresses you from the void: “Do you know who you are?”)

(Image: Dorene stands in the same dark void, asking “Do you feel like you’ve been here before?”)

(Image: Dorene says “Or is this just history repeating itself over and over?”)

Something about the lighting and particle effects in this ending reminded me of something, and when I went back to check, sure enough, in one of the very first videos, when the captain is experiencing oxygen deprivation, we see the very same lighting and effects used.

(Image: the bridge of the Invincible in a pale blue light with black particles floating around. There are signs in scrawled handwriting posted all over the walls. Most are covered in tally marks, but one reads “Don’t Open the Door” and another reads “Stop, Don’t Wake the Captain”)

(Image: the cryo pod on the bridge is covered in similar signs, reading “The Captain Needs their Sleep” and “Sleepy Head” and “Shhh Don’t Wake the Captain” along with more signs with tally marks.)

(Image: The inside of the cryo pod is lit up bright blue by two pricks of blue light that resemble eyes staring out at you. The silhouette of a hand can be seen pressing up against the class of the cryo pod.)

Now, I when I watched Heist for the first time, I tried to separate it as much as I could from WKM, because while there were definitely nods to the lore in a few of the runs, it was clear that Mark wanted Heist to be its own creation, and most of the routes had nothing to do with the plot and characters from WKM. But this time...this time it feels harder to separate them. First of all there’s the appearance of Wilford in one of the endings, and Actor Mark in another. 

(Image: Wilford standing in the Invincible’s warp corridor, holding up two fingers  towards the viewer, saying “Our meeting is in part two, which is not now.”)

(Image: A view through the door of a backstage area where a version of Mark wearing a red robe sits in a chair being attended to by hair and makeup crew.)

Not only is it Wilford and Actor Mark, but it’s Wilford as he appears in Wilford Motherlovin’ Warfstache, before he’s completely transformed into the pink mustached television host that we know, and it’s Actor Mark wearing the red robe and cravat that Mark wore in WKM, confirming in my eyes the theory that Actor Mark from Date and Mark from WKM (who is technically possessing Damien’s body right now) are the same person.

Then, you have this little detail:

(Image: the post it notes on the door of Mark’s locker on the Noir version of the Invincible. One sticky note reads “Captain Call Me:  555-2702,″ one says “Warfstache was here!” with a drawing of a  cartoon mustache, and the last one reads “Dorine? Celci? Connection?”)

(FYI, the ship roster on your tablet spells her name Dorene Whitacare, while the sticky note says Dorine and the subtitles Mrs. Whitacre. I don’t personally think the spelling differences matter, but I wanted to still point them out).

Not to be too tinfoil hat, but the names Dorine plus Celci could....possibly.... equal Celine? Celine who has...let’s say similar taste in style to our dear Mrs. Whitacre...sorry, Miss Whitacre, she’s not....married....anymore. Huh. Sounds familiar.

(Image: Celine from WKM, standing in the doorway to the manor. She has short black hair, is wearing a black dress with a star pattern and a shawl, and is played by the same actress who plays Celci in ISWM)

But for a moment, let’s say that the connection isn’t Celine (unlikely in my mind, but let’s say it). There’s still something going on with Dorene and Celci beyond just this sticky note. What? Well, that blue lighting and particle effects only appear two times, once with Dorene at the end and once in the “hallucination.” And what else do we see in the hallucination that we see one other time in the story? Glowing blue eyes...

(Image: the silhouette of Celci behind a frozen wall in cryo. Her eyes are glowing blue through the glass, possibly from her cryo goggles. She says “Sometimes the best decision is for things to end.”)

Both Celci and Dorene have some kind of connection to whatever the “hallucination” was at the beginning...and what do you know, the effects in said hallucination and the ending void kind of remind me of the visions from Who Killed Markiplier...

(Image: Damien from Who Killed Markiplier in a flashback vision. The scene is filtered through a blue light similar to the filter over the oxygen hallucination from ISWM, and there are white particle effects across the screen.)

(Image: Damien from Who Killed Markiplier with the same visual effects.)

And you know what else reminds me of Who Killed Markiplier?

(Image: Celine and Damien from WKM are trapped in a black void. Damien stands on the right and is illuminated in blue, while Celine stands on the left, illuminated in red. She is telling the player to “Just relax” before sending them back into their previously dead body.)

(Image: Celci from ISWM telling the player to “Just take a deep breath and relax” before sending them into cryosleep.)

(Image: Celine, in the void with Damien, tells the player “I won’t force this on you. You have a choice here.”

(Image: Dorene stands in her void at the end of ISWM with credits rolling. She tells the player “You always did have a choice.”)

I’m not willing to call the lighting similarities between flashbacks in WKM and hallucinations (or whatever that scene was) definitive proof, but it certainly is interesting. But the dialogue similarities between Celine and the Space characters, especially Dorene....there may be something to that. Not to mention the fact that I don’t think many people would have made a connection between Dorene and Celci without that post it note. The fact that Pam plays Celci is not enough in my mind to make that character suspicious, since we saw with Mick in Heist that actors in Mark’s projects are capable of playing characters totally unrelated to previous roles. But all these similarities and callbacks, plus character parallels between Celine and Celci (being strong willed, having animosity towards Mark, insisting to the player that her way is the correct way to handle things, etc) make me think that it’s not too big a leap or a red herring, there’s really something to this.

And this whole talk about choices is bothering me...because when Celine sends the player back into their body, she says that we have a choice...but we don’t really, do we? WKM isn’t choose your own adventure, it’s a short film that’s in first person. And with Dorene, she says we always had a choice, but this is the only choose your own adventure series Mark has ever put out where no matter what you do, things always cycle back to the same ending.

It doesn’t matter what you do in the beginning, eventually, you will die, and when you die, you return to the ship and the warp core gives you its crystal. And save for refusing to go into the portal or sleeping in cryo forever (both choices that are directly related to either Celci or Dorene, by the way), there’s nothing you can do after you get the crystal to avoid going into the warp core and having Mark- who presumably has been living on the ship alone for years, waiting for you to reappear so he can trap you outside the known universe in a misguided attempt to save it- accidentally destroy everything.

Everyone keeps berating you for your choices, but like the Bandit says, do they even matter? On my first run of this, I made a vow that I was going to be the absolute best captain I could be, I was going to make the decisions that I thought would save the most people, I didn’t open any doors, didn’t blow anything up unnecessarily, I tried every time to do the right thing, to find the right answer, but it didn’t matter. Things always end the same way, it’s less like Heist and more like WKM. Dorene said at the beginning that we just have to find the right answer. Well, I’m convinced that, at least in this version of the universe, the right answer didn’t exist. Maybe when we find whoever is responsible for all this, we’ll be able to fix it, but until then, all we can do is wait for one more month...

(Image: Actor Mark sitting backstage, telling his makeup artist “Yeah. I have one month of parole left.”)

.....oh boy.

And trust me, I have more to say about Dorene, and Celine, and Will and Damien and Mark and Dark and all of them...but it’s almost 2am and a girl has to sleep sometime. So for now, I’ll just leave you with this to chew on, and we can start things fresh tomorrow. Until then....sweet dreams.

(Image: your cryo pod is completely covered in ice. Subtitles indicated Illinois’s voice as he walks away, leaving you to sleep in cryo forever: “Sweet dreams. Sweet dreams.”)

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{OUT-DATED} Disproving some points in Game Theory’s In Space with Markiplier theory video

To set some ground rules:

The character the audience assumes in WKM, ADWM, AHWM and ISWM will be referred to as Y/N, DA (District Attorney), the Captain and also with the ‘we’, ‘us’ pronouns occasionally.

WKM makes it fairly obvious that Celine and Damien kicked the DA out of their body, trapping us in the mirror.

 We also learn that Damien represents the blue in Dark’s signature glitches and Celine, the red.

The Head Engineer is Actor Mark.

 The audience's role has always been the District Attorney (Y/N):

  In WKM, we give Actor Mark’s butler an invitation with our name and occupation on it: Y/N District Attorney  on it. We can safely assume that, here, we are the District Attorney in this story. 

 In ADWM we meet Darkiplier, the combination of Celine and Damien in our old body, which you can tell via his glitches. Red and blue. In the ending where we reject Mark’s proposal, it’s shown that he’s changed our last name to his already. We see the documents state that our name is ‘Y/N Fischbach’. 

 The same thing with AHWM, however the red is much more prominent here. When being registered into the prison, the person taking the register says ‘and one Your...’ its pretty obvious this is supposed to be Y/N (Your name).

 DAMIEN is about Celine finally letting herself take the backseat to revenge and letting Damien assume control (or majority control) over the body. Damien, by the end of DAMIEN, fully accepts the role of villain.

 So… why then.. Would ISWM be about that exact same thing? Why would Mark break away from the established fact that the audience is the DA to tell a story he’s already told before? He would be abandoning a character that’s arguably kinda integral to the Markiplier Cinematic Universe in lieu of telling a story he’s already told before.

 The whole friend thing:

 With Damien now being the villain in Actor Mark’s eyes, he now has a role in his story that nobody is playing: the best friend. I propose that Mark befriended the DA sometime after the whole body snatching thing and makes them assume Damien’s old role as his ‘best friend’. He wants someone to have fun with, someone to go on Heists or in Space with.

 We can safely assume that Y/N and Mark have been going on adventures for a while. After all, WKM is set sometime in the 1920s and stuff like the van vlogs are set in 2017, when they were filmed. Old Mark in the true ending could literally just be referring to that; their almost 100 years long companionship. Y/N and Mark have had a literal century to get close and become besties. Y/N is also presumably the only person Actor Mark really interacts with meaningfully. With this context, it makes complete sense that Mark would call the Captain his ‘close confidant’ and other such things.

 Also, in WKM, during the speech, Actor gestures to Y/N when saying ‘trusted friends’:

  ‘[...] So good to be surrounded by such close and trusted friends.’

 So if we do supposedly go way back even then, it really isn’t all the odd that Mark would describe us in close terms with him.

Why don’t we hate Mark after what he’s done?

Dorene trying to jog our memory in the third ‘Wake the Crew’ path on the ‘Extinguish the Fire’ route could very simply be her trying to jog the DA’s memory, example: ‘Makes you feel like you’ve gone through all this before. Do you understand, dearie?’ , ‘Seems too good to be true, right dearie?’

  Why would Celine try and remind Damien of the events of WKM? Isn’t she trying to do the opposite thing in DAMIEN? With the whole ‘Go to sleep.’ stuff. She doesn’t need to remind Damien of WKM anyway, because he remembers in DAMIEN without any help from her.

 Damien gets reminded fairly easily of the events in WKM by Actor Mark’s recounting of it in DAMIEN (10:45), Dark seems to be trying to use the same tactics on us:

 In Ending 31 of Heist we begin going down this dark hallway with framed pictures of the characters in WKM. We don’t particularly react to any portrait, not even Wilford’s which is odd. You think maybe Y/N would recoil in some way to being reminded of the cause of their death but nothing.

 Dark’s been trying to remind Y/N of the events of WKM for a while now. It seems they must’ve forgotten what happened at some point after Damien and Celine body snatch ‘em and before they started going on adventures with Mark.

 It would explain why we don’t have much, if any, dislike for either Wilford or Dark, we simply don’t remember what happened.

‘Hero Vs the Villain’ is just Actor Mark being a theatre kid:

‘A villain. Every good story needs a villain.’ In order to make ISWM Part I ‘good’ in Actor Mark’s eyes, it’s to have someone, anyone, be the villain. The Captain is an easy option after all, nobody else other than Actor Mark himself has been this involved with the wormhole. In Actor’s mind, he can’t ever be the villain (Mark said this himself in one of the lore streams) so he defers the role onto the Captain, even if they seem to be friends.

 In DAMIEN: ‘You really think that you're the hero in all of this?’, ‘Well, of course I am! Who else could I possibly be?’.

 Actor Mark is, well… an actor. He’s theatrical. It makes sense that he would amp stuff up for a dramatic ending to the story. He makes you the villain for that moment because there aren’t really any other viable candidates. It’s also possibly why he forgives the Captain so easily, because they’re friends and it’s not all that serious to him anyway. He is simply acting out a story with you and that’s how that one went. You can’t honestly watch the scene where Old Mark is trying to kill you and think it’s serious-serious, it’s all just fun and games to Actor.

 He also does this in DAMIEN, where he doesn’t really treat the events of WKM like it was anything serious. He wants people to forgive and forget easily so he can jump to the next adventure where he has the starring role (‘That’s all in the past, what matters is moving forward.’). Which brings me to…

The apology:

 Actor Mark apologises to the Captain just before resetting the universe, ‘I’m sorry about a lot of things.’

 This one honestly stumped me for a bit. My current belief is that he’s not apologising for anything that he’s done, it doesn’t really fit into his character to do something like that. See this bit from DAMIEN:

‘I wanted to apologise [...] Mistakes were made. Plans weren’t exactly properly executed. The right people started pointing fingers at the wrong people and a good night with some good friends may have taken a wrong turn at some point.’ This is a very embellished telling of WKM, entirely from Actor Mark’s perspective. He didn’t intend for all this drama to happen. He executed his part perfectly, it’s everyone else that messed stuff up. It’s not a true apology.

 I think that bit in the ending of Part I wasn’t apologising for anything he did in particular but just expressing that he feels sorry that Y/N was involved in WKM at all. I sincerely doubt we were supposed to be anything other than a witness at the party.

 He feels genuinely sorry because he hadn’t intended for ANY of this to happen to the DA. He believes it’s entirely Wilford, Damien and Celine’s fault for screwing with his plan.

 But I can’t say that everything he said was weird. He does bring up some good points like the whole Dorene calling us ‘stubborn’ and those notes in the Upside-Down world saying that we, the Captain, need to go to sleep. I’m not sure if I can explain those ones away. Maybe someone smarter than me can.

But hey... those are my two cents. Agree and disagree as you wish :D This is all just fun!