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i don’t care what path he chooses i will support him throughout it because he’s my princess !!
#yes this is about viktor#i love viktor#i love him#did i mention i love viktor#is this how jayce feels#viktor#viktor arcane#arcane#arcane season two#arcane s2#jayvik#i hate gay people#but i love viktor !
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Jayce and the fallacy of the butterfly effect in Arcane's narrative
If Jayce's symbol is the butterfly, then my theory is that we're going into a full "butterfly effect" narrative in Act 2. Either we'll watch it happen, or we'll only see Jayce come out the other side of it changed by the experience, knowing - or more importantly, THINKING he knows - what to do to change the future. Literally, to "defend tomorrow."
tl;dr: Jayce will encounter the butterfly effect in season 2. Viktor and Mel both foreshadowed this in season 1. I think Jayce will fixate on Viktor and will believe that stopping or changing Viktor either in the past or the present - most likely the present - will mean he can save the future. I believe this will lead to an even worse tragedy and may have the same effect as a self-fulfilling prophecy. Ekko's approach to changing the future by sticking closer to the present - considering only tiny increments of time to alter more immediate future outcomes - will be the superior approach. I also think that Jayce attempting to change the future will create the conditions that push Viktor to become the Machine Herald.
One of the most common reactions even the casual viewer had to Arcane season 1 was this: "If [character] had just done this one small thing a little differently, [tragic event] wouldn't have happened!"
Arcane has been called a Greek tragedy for the main reason that because of how well built up the characters' personalities and reasonings are, there's no other way season 1 could have gone. There was no stopping the multiple tragedies that occurred, because with one event leading to another, the chain of seemingly inevitable events goes too far back to identify what one singular event caused everything, what one character made what one decision to put our characters on the terrible paths they walked.
Arcane is about to investigate this idea in its own narrative, and I think that Jayce will be the character to stumble into the flawed idea that you can change one event, or stop one character, and change the future for the better. This is because Jayce struggles with a few very interesting character flaws, one of them being that he believes himself to be the main character, and it is therefore his responsibility to intervene, be a hero, and fix things.
Viktor and Mel both foreshadow Jayce's future encounter with the butterfly effect.
Recall that Viktor said: "There is always a choice."
Jayce sees choices in black and white, believes that he has no other options but to go along with what he's persuaded and pushed into, and acts too boldly with too much power multiple times.
Recall that Mel said: "We can't change what fate has in store for us, but we don't have to face it alone."
Jayce tries to solve big problems on his own, and though he delegates to Enforcers and the like, Jayce relies on his reasoning and his alone to make important decisions if he doesn't simply become persuaded - usually through strong emotions like fear - by other characters. In addition, since Mel is specifically talking about Viktor's plight here, it's worth mentioning that while Jayce did say that he would help Viktor in acts 2 and 3 of season 1, Jayce does wind up leaving Viktor to face his fate alone. When Jayce tries to change that fate in s2 ep1, ep2 shows that only tragedy can come of this as well.
Viktor and Mel's statements here are not contradictory. Viktor makes the point that you can always make a choice. In context, he's literally referring to the classic "secret third option," because given a choice between aggression and passivity, war and surrender, Viktor chooses to defuse the bomb instead. Mel, interestingly, seems to believe that destiny is fixed in a broad sense, and she operates as a politician and diplomat and investor who navigates that line of destiny in the most optimal way possible. In reality, in context, she is referring to the fact that Viktor can't change the way he was born and so he has no way to change his fate and therefore must face it, which is true - she's only missing the information that Viktor actually does have the means to change his illness and his body. Her wisdom still applies however, because he'll have to accept the hand that fate deals him after he makes that choice. Will he face it alone, or not?
There is always a choice, there's even secret third options, because having a fate doesn't mean that you are doomed to make only one possible series of choices. What it does mean is that each choice comes with a hand that fate deals you. It is impossible to know what all of these branching choices and consequences are in advance, and it is just as impossible in hindsight - the branches are too complex and the end outcomes are all equally meaningful, just different. If Arcane season 2 is to be a tragedy, it may show us that each possible outcome is still tragic if you fall for the fallacy of the butterfly effect.
Jayce is counseled by some of the wisest, cleverest characters with the deepest life experiences in Arcane, but he hardly ever takes that counsel to heart. If he does, he still acts on that counsel in flawed ways that have unintended consequences. This will come to a head in season 2.
Viktor and Jayce both have a butterfly following them around in season 1. The butterfly effect refers to one small seemingly insignificant event changing the course of history, and changing that event therefore changes history. Viktor bled over the railing of a Hexgate in season 1:
And Heimerdinger sees what we can only assume is Viktor's blood contaminating (?) the Hexgate in s2 ep3:
This might be the seemingly unimportant "inciting incident" that Jayce (and Heimerdinger and Ekko) settle on as something that should be avoided or erased by changing the past (if they time-travel with Ekko, for example).
I doubt that, if this is what this crew chooses to fixate on, it will be the only event that is considered as something to change. But let's take this and run with it for the sake of discussion.
As silly as it sounds, how do you stop Viktor from allowing his blood to come into contact with the arcane? Stop Viktor's involvement with the Academy entirely? Don't invent Hextech at all? But what if someone else invents Hextech besides Jayce? What if future tragedy befalls Piltover because it didn't invent Hextech?
The possibilities and what-ifs could branch on forever. But because Jayce is who he is, and because his tragedy with Viktor is still raw and recent and frightening, I think Jayce's butterfly effect experience will have to do with Viktor.
My personal prediction is that the timeskip between s2 ep3 and ep4 will be Jayce experiencing a timeline where Viktor, taken over by the Hexcore, brings about an apocalyptic event similar to what Heimerdinger experienced in his past. Either Jayce and co. can't go into the past to change the present, or Heimerdinger and/or Ekko advise strongly against it to avoid a paradox. This will lead to them re-entering the canon Arcane timeline before this apocalypse, but still after the timeskip. Jayce, believing that destroying Viktor and his cult will save the future, and believing that resurrecting Viktor was Jayce's mistake to fix, attacks him. But the consequences don't unfold the way he hopes, because trying to change fate once the cards have already been dealt has led to tragedy before.
The butterfly is a symbol of something other than just the butterfly effect - change, evolution, and rebirth. If the butterfly symbolizes the butterfly effect for Jayce, then I think it has a different meaning for Viktor - the change and rebirth meaning.
I've always found it very interesting that we see a similar-looking butterfly on Progress Day... but made of metal.
Every time Viktor's situation changes, he adapts and evolves. If Jayce attacks him, if his cult is destroyed, if the Hexcore is causing Viktor to decay, if all of these things happen at once - he'll just evolve again, and I think the Machine Herald is the next step. And the Machine Herald will be a triumph for Viktor, but Jayce will believe that he's created something even worse. The resulting feud will be a personal nightmare for both of them.
I think this still allows Viktor to use his own agency to choose to become the Machine Herald (the MH will probably be the "secret third option" that saves Viktor, or there will be a secret third option that ends the feud) while still allowing Jayce to be offended and horrified at whatever the Machine Herald represents or is trying to do in the undercity. Introducing the element of time travel allows Arcane to explore the meta concept of tragedy and fate that season 1 was built on while showing that you can't "solve" a tragedy, because there are other terrible possibilities lurking behind alternate choices. Especially if what you're trying to change is singular people or events and not systems of power.
This is why Ekko's approach with his Z-drive will be superior to Jayce's sweeping attempt at changing the future. Ekko's goal has always been societal change. He creates his own punk society in the undercity, more progressive and successful than anything Vander or Silco ever created, and a better bastion of safety, hope, and progress than what Heimerdinger founded in Piltover. Trying to change systems by going back in time is most likely futile. But taking what Ekko has already built in the Firelights, curing his tree, and fighting for the Firelights' survival bit by bit by optimizing the present with the Z-drive shows that:
It's more worth it to focus on becoming wise (Ekko's mask is an owl) and making choices you won't regret
It's best if you don't face your fate alone (act as a collective and take care of each other)
Consider every option, not just the obvious black and white choices
Maintain and fix what you've already built instead of abandoning it once things get difficult
Adapt as needed if the choices you made lead to dark consequences, and once again, stick together and take care of each other when the bad times do come
That's my Act 2 but, ultimately, my season 2 prediction based on the butterfly symbolism we've already seen. Ekko's involvement is what will give the series the at least partial happy ending that the creators have referred to. I personally don't think that the Viktor/Jayce feud will end quite so well, but maybe, they will still survive.
#arcane#spoilers#arcane s2#arcane spoilers#jayce talis#ekko#viktor#viktor arcane#long post#meta#jayvik#arcane meta#heimerdinger#I'm positive that Mel will be deeply involved with this too considering her comments on fate#honestly the thought of her being caught in the Viktor/Jayce feud is terrible to contemplate so I'm just gonna pray for my girl#I did not like the time travel implications when i first watched act 1 but after thinking about this i feel way better about it#Another reason I think this will come down to Viktor is because Heimerdinger has distrusted Viktor since season 1 and he will focus on him#Ekko will see the faults in focusing on one person#Jayce is least likely to survive all this considering how fast the consequences of his actions are catching up with him#but there could also be a chance here of viktor choosing to spare him - if only to curse him with the Defender/Herald feud forever idk#anyway i am feral for season 2 so far can't you tell
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with everything that has happened in arcane today I want to take a second to appreciate all the new relationships and connections the show has established. It’s so great to see different characters interact that haven’t before, like Mel giving Caitlyn her condolences and talking to Jayce about her, Ambessa and Caitlyn interacting which has so much potential and the Heimerdinger-Ekko-Jayce-trio is great as well! Especially after the last season we were so used to characters only staying in their little bubble (Silco, Jinx, Sevika or Cait, Vi or Jayce,Viktor, Mel for example) but now that they are branching out we get to see so many cool and interesting interactions and I for one am loving it.
#the way it lets us explore these characters so much deeper is great#caitlyn and ambeesa is not a couple I would have predicted even though it was very obvious from the trailers#Mel alone (except for her assistant) is also interesting because she was always such a social character#seeing Viktor in the undercity feels weird but right as well#and of course the break up between Vi and Cait means we get to explore other sides to their characters#After they spent an entire season together#AND JINX!!#how could I forget about her#ofcourse sevika is till there#but now she has the little girl#and Vi too maybe? if we trust the trailers#arcane#vi arcane#vi#arcane season 2#arcane vi#Mel medarda#ambessa medarda#caitlyn#caitlyn x vi#caitvi#caitlyn kiramman#jayce talis#viktor arcane
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#polycule complete :D#meljayvik peeps how we feeling today?! XD#meljayvik#arcane spoilers#arcane#mel medarda#viktor#jayce talis
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#personal tag#my fellow cait simps we are thirsty we are starving but i believe theyre cooking something there at riot..... i BELIEVE#we must remain patient#so is any other character ngl we dont have jayce vik or mel stuff either pain.......#pretty sure we’ll get more stuff once season 2 airs#i have like another meme for how i feel rn but i'll just post this one lmfao#type: meme
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S2 arcane spoilers!!
Anyone else notice how dim viktors eyes look in the new season like
And it's like this for nearly every other shot
Compared to his eyes in s1
And he's rlly out of character too
And sure that could be the trauma of EVERYTHING that's happened
But I feel like it's more than that
The hexcore is controlling him obviously so maybe we'll see him try to fight against it??
I really hope he does bc I don't think the whole magic arcane Jesus thing is really working for me tbh
OR if he doesn't manage to get free of the hexcore maybe he decides to lean into it by baking himself even more robotic buy powered by hextech or whatever the new equivalent would be
I've also been thinking maybe he'll start upsetting the chem barrens?? But it seems kinda unlikely
#he needs more screen time also#theres like 5 things all happening at once and viktor has something to do with at least 2 if them#abd hes only in like 1 episode with only like 15mins of screen time#and whats going on with the singed stuff???#like ik its warwick but how tf are they going to fit all of this in to 9 episodes with the first 3 basicly being set up??????#arcane#arcane lol#arcane league of legends#viktor arcane#arcane season 2#arcane viktor#arcane theory#arcane thoughts#arcane spoilers#arcane s2 spoilers#jesus viktor#apparently#honestly i dont mind the sky and viktor stuff#like i feel like we all knew jayvik wasnt going to be cannon WITH caitvi#unfortunately series's are just Like That#especially netflix#jayvik#still really want to see the glorious evolution dont want it to be bame droped tho#jayce arcane#the pony gave me faith tbh#hope they dont depict viktor as a perfect one to one with jesus cus that makes anyone who opposes him 'evil'#and arcane was always really good at making rlly complex characters#we didnt have to think about good and evil yk#hope viktor gets more content bc of thus though
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Jayce the Terrible and His Partner Viktor
Based on this famous painting by Ilya Repin.
#arcane#arcane season 2#jayce arcane#viktor arcane#arcane fanart#art#hey so how are we feeling jayvik shippers I think I want to end it all#YAOI IS A PRISON#ABOLISH YAOI#my art#myart#my artwork#artists on tumblr#procreate#digital art#fanart#jayvik#jayvik fanart#fan art
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Although I just started reblogging Arcane stuff now, I’ve been into the show since 2021. So to put it on the record: I’ve always loved Jayce.
He’s always had pure intentions, but can be naive, single-minded, and selfish, which (as we’ve seen) can really hurt the ones he loves. He didn’t ask to be the Man of Progress, and that clouded a lot of his judgment. And just as he realizes, in this moment, his real wants and needs (being faced with the reality of his best friend dying in his arms), he panics, desperately trying to revive him– but Viktor is no longer able to reciprocate that love, those wants. He’s saying that this– the end of their life together– was inevitable. And Jayce can’t even explain himself correctly, he’s sleep-deprived, a little manic, so relieved, confused, and overwhelmed.
He’s trying to keep it together, in the spotlight, a well-meaning man– and I’ve always loved him.
#arcane#jayce talis#viktor#jayvik#mine#more in tags#his story with Viktor is so tragic in such a heartbreaking way#their relationship is very very beautiful and sad#it goes to show how Mel has to remind him to talk to Cait#I love Mel so much too and her mama#but the fact remains Jayce is full and full of love but the responsibilities and sometimes just outright disregard for loved ones#makes him very neglectful#he’s made a lot of mistakes and it’s a betrayal with the hexcore and Viktor#but he’s just trying to please everyone#also I have a theory Viktor can feel some emotions it’s obvious with his guilt of Sky and hallucinating her probably because of the hexcore#but I think he’s going to further and further shut his emotions off#I don’t even see their relationship as romantic I think their bond is so deep in their care for each other its just so much love#I could see Viktor having some feelings and a potential maybe for Jayce but it’s too late isn’t it#god them
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"Our paths diverged long ago. It was affection that held us together." Hello? HELLO??????????????
#putting this in a separate post because people need to see how insane this is#i like how viktor specifically calls it affection- not love or friendship or anything- it feels so detached compared to what jayce feels#will write abt this in another another post. maybe. if school allows :(#guys.... guys...... i cannot do this#i was not. ready for that#i need to vomit#he was literally taking care of viktor for who knows how like and they just break up#JAYCE WAS SO EMOTIONAL TOO and viktor was so like... distant#break up arcccccc 🤪#effects of the hexcore me thinks#jayvik#arcane spoilers#arcane season 2#viktor#jayce#jayce talis#arcane writers i am shaking you by the shoulders
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I find it so interesting how Jayce's response to "I must say goodbye to this place" is "Viktor, you're my partner."
He doesn't try to reason with him logically, which would be him pointing out that Viktor literally just woke up and that it's not wise for Viktor to leave so soon. They should probably make sure he's okay first and try to get some answers. At this moment Viktor has no idea about how he ended up in the lab or anything about the attacks. Jayce has no idea what actually happened to Viktor when he was inside the thingy.
He doesn't try to get any explanation from Viktor, no what-do-you-mean or where-are-you-going.
He doesn't even deny Viktor by saying no. Instead he says "Viktor, you're my partner."
...Sir what the hell is that supposed to mean? It's such an odd response to Viktor. It's like he's saying the fact that they have a connection means they can't leave each other.
#maybe thats how he feels idk#arcane season 2#arcane s2#arcane season two#or is it a proclamation of loyalty? is it a 'you don't have to say goodbye bc im different now'?#jayce Talis you are a confusing man#jayce talis#jayvik
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Riot, just give Jayce his damn husband back! Riot, give Jayce his husband back! He deserves his husband! All he needs is his husband back! That's all he's asking for! Riot give his husba
#jayvik#so many damn feelings#and all of it is for this grieving man and his doomed soulmate#i love how his og lore has subtle notes of longing to have viktor in his life#becuase he's his only equal#but arcane is not afraid to show more emotions#so now we have CLEAR evidence Jayce Talis is just a man drowning in longing#i am NOT okay
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For now, it's about 50/50 for whether or not these mysterious people that were included in the new trailer are members of the Gloriously Evolved. For fun, I'm going to break down why these people might be entirely unrelated to Viktor.
First, their bodies are clearly inlaid with gold, which does not replace their flesh. In the brief scene we get of these people the gold works as a conduit between their melodies and the magic around them. Meanwhile hexcore has entirely transformed Viktor's hand and leg into metal.
We know that Viktor's entire hand and leg have turned completely into metal because not only do his limbs make metal clinking noises and conduct electricity, but the animators on Bridging the Rift confirm it.
I've also seen some mention that the markings on the faces of these unknown characters represent Viktor's touch when he "healed" them. Upon closer inspection each character does have a five markings on their face, but they're detailed runes rather than Viktor's hand print, implying this may be related to a more intricate ritual rather than Viktor simply laying his hand on them and transforming them with the hexcore.
Really, these people have magic more similar to Mel Medarda. Mel is the one who appears to wear magical gold embedded in her skin to serve as protection magic. What Mel is doing with magic is likely far more simple compared to these people, but it's in the same vein. And that may be the entire point.
Viktor and his cult are the outliers. Whatever Viktor has done in season 1, and what he will continue to do in season 2 is a divergence (possibly perversion) of how magic should work/be treated in the rest of Runeterra, which makes sense! Viktor literally said he doesn't know what he's doing, he just keeps going.
What's likely happening in this scene is that some sect of mages, maybe they're acolytes of the mage that saved Jayce have become aware of the magical shenanigans in PnZ... and it's bad.
Then again, I haven't seen the leaks. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think this is all worth pointing out. (This is not a solicitation to tell what happens in the leaks).
#arcane#arcane meta#viktor arcane#mel medarda#i feel like people keep forgetting that viktor has the potential to be the most dangerous character in the cast#what Viktor's doing is is not normal magic it's an abberation#the stronger he gets the more the wider world becomes aware of what he's doing#for the first time i see that viktor has no toe nails anymore#ridiculous things i learn for my meta#it is pretty interesting to see that the mage from Jayce's memory is watching#the mage who us probably Ryze or something#is pnz the problem child of runeterra... it's more likely than you think#this could really create more interesting implications here#the ban on magic in pnz has essentially put everyone tbere at square 1 when it comes to figuring things out meanwhile#in other regions like demacia they may persecute mages but technically they didn’t ban all of it#what's considered magic is arbitrarily defined as an excuse to persecute others#so the governing body is still AWARE of how magic generally works and are more prepared for disaster (sort of)#but pnz really is just playing in the dark and calling it science
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#Listen I know I said I was going to finish arctober still#but after watching what came out of season 2 so far I lost all of my motivation#I drew this instead#This perfectly sums up how I feel about season 2#hel unleashed#arcane#viktor#viktor arcane#jayce#jayce arcane#illustration#arcane fanart#fanart
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I had been feeling attached to some G/T vibes again really heavily at the time and ended up deciding on keeping some of that G/T stuff within the story as well in canon. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Compromised with him ending up bigger with time and even his normal form starting to get that way as well, along with getting more features from when he's in the other bigger demon form. He was hiding it with a glamour and size manipulation spells like a self-prescription, up until he couldn't anymore and he felt ashamed and scared to let Lucy know how bad it was getting but she wants to deal with it together and he shouldn't have to hide it.
#Daniel Spellbound#Jayce Chinda#Lucy Santana#Jacy#Bleeding Magic AU#size difference#giant tiny#demon#monster#demon boyfriend#monster human romance#I feel it was these pics where I was really finally felt I was drawing him how I'd like to haha#mostly the hair#his hair goes both forward and back and I never found a good way to draw it
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Fable by Gigi Perez - Arcane
#how are we feeling arcane fandom#i for one am SICK#arcane#arcane edit#arcane netflix#netflix arcane#arcane season 1#arcane s1#vi#arcane vi#jinx#jinx arcane#jayce talis#jayce arcane#vander arcane#vander#arcane silco#silco#arcane ekko#ekko#viktor arcane#viktor#gigi perez#love was the law#fable#powder arcane#tw flashing#flashing lights#my edit
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do you think jayce still loved him.
do you think when he killed viktor he still, somewhere, knew his breath as well as his own. do you think when he blasted him he still remembered how his love for viktor devoured him whole once. do you think he would find his way to viktor blind, and all some part of him had wanted was to hold him once again.
do you think viktor saw that and loved him, and would love him still.
#arcane#jayvik nation how we feeling#viktor arcane#arcane jayce#jayce x viktor#doomed yaoi#oh my god#arcane season 2 spoilers
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