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thunderbone · 1 year ago

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After the first screenwriter left the project, the producers had to call another screenwriter to create a new script for the film and that's how it works, guys.

It was from there that Steven Spielberg (Or Uncle Spielberg for those of you close), director of the first two films in the franchise, had a terribly crazy idea of militarized dinosaurs being used as weapons, but his version of the idea was much more fanciful. And what's worse is that he thought the kids would love this idea, holy shit!

To make matters worse, in April 2003, Spielberg and the other producers were looking for screenwriters to write a new script that was based on Uncle Spielberg's "brilliant" idea, and they later called on infamous screenwriter John Sayles to create the new script for the movie. For those who don't know, John Sayles was the screenwriter for the films Piranha (1978) and The Howling (1981), meaning he specializes in creating B horror films.

And that's how that terrible proposed script for the fourth film in the franchise written by John Sayles came about. Get ready to hear the story of John Sayles' screenplay.

Jurassic Park IV by John Sayles

By 2004, John Sayles had written two scripts for the film, the second script having been leaked onto the internet by hackers. Yes, since the end of the 90s, some scripts were leaked onto the internet through hackers and an example of this was the script for the film Scream 2, where the screenwriter had to change several things in the script due to the leak, thus avoiding spoilers of the movie plot. But going back to Sayles' script, as I said, the second script had been leaked online in 2004, where this script is the version we all know.

This second script has one of the most intriguing and infamous aspects of the franchise as a whole. Despite this, it's worth taking a look at this script to get an idea of what the film would have been like if it were released at the time the script was written. Below is a summary of the script, although I recommend that you read the script first before viewing my summary.

The script's story begins with a group of Pteranodons attacking several people during a baseball game, in which it is widely thought that these are the same Pteranodons that appeared at the end of the third film in the franchise. The whole world has started to pay attention to the mainland of Costa Rica, as some dinosaurs are migrating to the mainland. This invasion of dinosaurs to the continent is generating a lot of concern for the entire local population due to the possibility of the ecosystem collapsing.

The new protagonist introduced in the script, Nick Harris, an ex-military man hired by John Hammond to recover the Barbasol can left by Dennis Nedry before he was killed by a Dilophosaurus. That can contained DNA embryos from several dinosaur species stolen by Nedry, and Hammond wants them in order to use them to create a group of sterile and extremely aggressive dinosaurs, because according to him, these dinosaurs would exterminate the entire remaining population of the islands, so there would be no more incidents involving dinosaurs on the mainland.

However, Nick's mission is completely secret, as Hammond has lost the rights to Isla Nublar and his company, InGen, which currently belong to the Grendel Corporation, a Swiss multinational company and conglomerate. In addition, Hammond is also prohibited from cloning new dinosaurs, mining ore and excavating amber of mosquitoes. Hammond now spends his time paying millions to families who lost loved ones in the incidents of previous films.

On the island, Nick manages to find Barbasol can, but is attacked by Excavaraptors, a group of Velociraptors left over from Isla Nublar, where they lived in the underground area of the park. Over the years, they have evolved drastically, where in addition to adapting underground, they have developed large claws similar to the claws of a mole and the behavior of these creatures has gone far beyond, where they are now smarter and more aggressive than normal Velociraptors.

To make matters worse, Nick is also pursued by a group of Compsognathus and the military soldiers of the Grendel Corporation, who at all costs want the Barbasol can. After managing to lose them, Nick tries to return to his plane, but the plane is destroyed by a Kronosaurus, which also chases him quickly. Thanks to the power of protagonism, Nick manages to escape from the marine reptile and manages to return to the mainland. However, after returning to the mainland, Nick is finally captured by Grendel Corporation soldiers, in which he is taken to the company's headquarters in the Swiss Alps.

Nick is forced by the Grendel Corporation to train a squadron of genetically engineered Deinonychus, promising him a payment far greater than what John Hammond had promised him, on condition that he reveal the whereabouts of the Barbasol can.

In this script, we are introduced by other new characters, which are: Adrien Joyce (Ex-military, old friend of Nick and second villain of the plot), Baron Hermen Von Drax (CEO of Grendel Corporation and villain of the plot), Dr. Maya Lundberg (Scientist of Grendel Corporation and second protagonist of the script) and Sherman Fosdick (Chief scientist of Grendel Corporation).

After meeting the other characters, Nick is finally introduced to the hybrid dinosaurs, the Deinonychus Draxi. The Deinonychus Draxi would be the first hybrid dinosaurs in the franchise, which are composed of five of them: Spartacus (X-1), Orestes (X-2), Perseus (X-3), Hector (X-4) and Achilles (X- 5). They were created by Grendel Corporation with the intention of using them as military weapons, where the company's CEO, Baron Von Drax, wanted the embryos stolen by Dennis Nedry to use them in creating more dinosaurs for military use. Deinonychus Draxi has human DNA (which was donated by the company's CEO) and dog DNA.

Human DNA was added for better problem solving, while dog DNA was added to increase obedience. Each one has an identification number pulverized (Which in this case is an X with a number) and all were controlled by a device attached to the side of their heads, where these devices inject chemicals into the raptors, to make them obey Nick commands well for most of the script. In addition to having human and dog DNA, these hybrid dinosaurs also had squid DNA to camouflage themselves (just like the Indominus Rex from Jurassic World).

Nick, with help from Maya, Sherman, and the other company employees, begins extensive training with the Deinonychus Draxi, putting them through several different exercises to prepare them for their future military missions. The dinosaurs' first mission is to rescue a ten-year-old girl who had been kidnapped by a terrorist group. The mission is a brutal success, with the Deinonychus Draxi violently tearing apart the terrorists and saving the little girl from the criminals.

In the middle of the plot, Spartacus begins to have a friendly relationship with Nick (Like Blue and Owen in Jurassic World), while Achilles gradually turns into an uncontrollable killing machine (Something similar with Delta in Jurassic World). After an attack by Achilles during training that almost resulted in its death, Nick discovered that Maya is trapped in Von Drax's castle against her will, being forced to work for him.

Furthermore, Baron Von Drax becomes very impatient and threatens Nick with a crossbow, in an attempt to obtain information on the whereabouts of the Barbasol can. With no choice, Nick finally reveals the location of the can, under the condition that he release Maya after the Deinonychus Draxi's second mission is over. Later, Nick and Maya had a private conversation, where in addition to confessing their feelings for each other and kissing, the geneticist tells the ex-soldier that Von Drax arranged for that little girl to be kidnapped.

Eventually, they would have to rescue a group of hostages held by a drug lord in South America. However, this mission would also serve as a demonstration for various corporations looking to invest in the latest military technology. Investors are shocked to see dinosaurs parachuting during the mission on the observation monitors. In addition to the Deinonychus Draxi, there were also two Dilophosaurus, Casper and Pollux, and an Ankylosaurus, who were also trained by Nick weeks before the day of the mission.

All of the Deinonychus Draxi and the Dilophosaurus were equipped with armor. The dinosaurs manage to invade the drug cartel hideout and once again the mission was successful, where the dinosaurs killed all the drug dealers, leaving only the hostages alive. It is at this point that it is revealed that Nick had tricked Baron Von Drax, where he replaced the embryos in the Barbasol can with frog genes, much to the villain's chagrin.

It is also revealed that Von Drax was paid by a rival drug cartel to eliminate the drug lord and his henchmen. In parallel to this, the Deinonychus Draxi manage to remove their respective devices that controlled them and flee into the forest. Nick and the other Grendel Corporation employees headed to the drug cartel's hideout to assess the damage done by the dinosaurs.

However, the Deinonychus Draxi attack everyone by surprise, turning against their creators. As the hybrid dinosaurs killed Baron Von Drax and all of his company's employees, Nick and Adrien had a final standoff after Adrien deduced that Nick had planned the entire dinosaur attack from the beginning. When Adrien was about to kill the protagonist, one of the Deinonychus Draxi, Achilles, quickly attacks him, brutally killing him.

However, after killing the second villain, Achilles succumbed to its injuries caused by one of the Grendel Corporation soldiers, dying in the process. At the end of the script, Spartacus and the other hybrid dinosaurs flee into the forest, sparing Nick and Maya's lives. Also, Nick reveals to Maya that he had already sent the embryos to Hammond, hoping that Hammond will do the right thing.

Man, this script had many holes, such as the plot of the Barbasol can, because in the first film of the franchise, it is revealed that if dinosaur DNA leaves a refrigerator, the useful life of that DNA will end quickly. Because of this, Dennis used a fake shaving can, which contained a mini cooler that could delay the life of the embryos for a long time, where this process would last a maximum of 2 days.

However, the story of this script takes place after the events of the third film, that is, it makes no sense for the characters to want that lost can, as the useful life of dinosaur DNA samples had ended many years ago. Furthermore, the characters' explanations of the creation of the Deinonychus Draxi is very vague in the script. It's as if such explanations were just there to fill in the holes in the script.

Many of the ideas presented in the script were retooled for Jurassic World and its sequel, Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom. Yes, John Sayles' script has been repurposed in the current franchise, being readapted to be less bizarre. The concept of hybrid dinosaurs (Indominus Rex and Indoraptor), a squadron of trained Velociraptors (Blue, Charlie, Delta and Echo), an ex-military protagonist and trainer of that squadron (Owen Grady), a former colleague of the protagonist who wants to use dinosaurs as military weapons (Hoskins), a scientist responsible for creating one of the hybrid dinosaurs (Claire Dearing), the story takes place in a specific location outside the islands (Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom), and dinosaurs on the mainland (Jurassic World: Dominion) were taken from this script.

It's just that these repurposed concepts were more reliably readapted compared to what was in the pages of John Sayles' second script. Detail: JW's Hoskins character is a bit of a satire on Sayles' script, since everyone knows that militarizing dinosaurs and using them as weapons is a terribly bad idea. But that's not to say it's a bad read, I particularly like this script written by Sayles as it's a fascinating part of the franchise's history, as well as being a reminder of just how trippy and weird Jurassic Park IV could have been.

I would even like to see how the fourth film in the franchise could have been if this script was approved by the studio and it's no wonder that I made 5 fanarts of this script to imagine what the film would be like if it were released at the time the script was written. Not only that, in 2023, an incredible artist I met on Tumblr who makes beautiful drawings called Ralbino hamster (Also known as Ralbi) drew one of the hybrid dinosaurs from this script for me.

In 2020, I had made the first fanart of John Sayles' script. But it was only in 2021 that I finished the drawing.

When I drew the characters, I had to choose the characters that were featured in the script, and these characters are (From left to right): John Hammond (Even with a small participation in the beginning of the plot), Dr. Maya Lundberg (Scientist of Grendel Corporation and one of the creators of hybrid dinosaurs), Nick Harris (The main protagonist), Adrien Joyce (Nick's old friend and one of the plot's villains) and Baron Hermen Von Drax (CEO of Grendel Corporation, one of the creators of hybrid dinosaurs and villain of the story).

To draw Nick Harris, I didn't want him to be similar or identical to Owen Grady, where I imagined the actor Michael Fassbender playing him (Although the character doesn't look much like an actor in the final version of my drawing). Before, I wanted to draw another character from the script, Dr. Sherman Fosdick (One of the creators of the hybrid dinosaurs), but I didn't have much space to draw him.

When I drew the dinosaurs, I chose the main dinosaurs from the script, which are (From left to right): Deinonychus Draxi/Spartacus (One of the hybrid dinosaurs), Dilophosaurus, Ankylosaurus and Excavaraptor. To draw the hybrid dinosaur, I had to base myself on its characteristics according to the script, that is, it is literally identical to the "normal" Velociraptors in the franchise. But since it's a hybrid, I had to add dog teeth and five fingers, as well as add spines on its head and back (A reference to the concept art of a hybrid T. Rex made by Carlos Huante) and the same coloring as the Bernese Mountain Dog.

When I made this fanart, I had added the Dilophosaurus, even though it wasn't mentioned by its correct name in the script (Where it was called "Spitters" in the script, as well as being "replaced" by an unknown dinosaur similar to the frill-necked lizard, Chlamydosaurus Sputori). Also, I painted the Dilophosaurus yellow, red and black to give a reference to the Dilophosaurus featured in Michael Crichton's book. To draw the logo, I was inspired by the logo of the movies The Lost World: Jurassic Park and Jurassic Park III (Only the number in roman numerals).

After I had finished making the first fanart of the script, I noticed that the Deinonychus Draxi (Spartacus) that I had drawn in that fanart looked very similar to the normal Velociraptors seen in the movies. Thanks to this small "error", I really wanted to make a fanart of the Deinonychus Draxi, the hybrid dinosaurs presented in that terrible script.

Only I didn't want to draw just one of those hybrids, but the whole squadron of Deinonychus Draxi (Something most fans haven't done until today).

The hybrid dinosaurs that are in my drawing are (From left to right on top row): Spartacus (X-1), Achilles (X-5), Perseus (X-3), Orestes (X-2) and Hector (X-4).

Before I started drawing, I had asked Hellraptor for permission to use the same Spartacus coloring and fur that he had used in his fanart, where he allowed it.

I'm a Hellraptor fan and really liked the Spartacus fanart he made, and I wanted to put the same Spartacus colors and fur he used to reference him and his art. So all the credit for Spartacus' coloring and fur goes to Hellraptor, and if you want to see his awesome art, click here: https://www.deviantart.com/hellraptorstudios

To paint Achilles, I used the Rottweiler coloring to give it a more menacing tone (Since the Rottweiler is one of the most dangerous dog breeds in the world, and I think it goes a lot with this killer dinosaur). As for the coloring of Perseus, Orestes and Hector, I used the colors of Shiba inu, Beagle and German Shepherd, respectively. When I had finished the art, I noticed that Hector was very similar to Indoraptor, but now I couldn't change his appearance as I had already outlined the art (lol! XD).

Finally, I had added the number four in roman numerals, to give the impression that my art is a poster of the movie (If it was released at the time the script was written).

In 2022, I made three more fanarts of the discarded script for Jurassic Park IV, written by John Sayles. In the first fanart of that year, I drew the two protagonists of the script (Nick Harris and Dr. Maya Lundberg) and the two hybrid dinosaurs (Spartacus and Achilles) again.

In the second fanart, I decided to make a realistic drawing, where I imagined the actors Michael Fassbender and Regina Hall playing the two protagonists of the script, Nick Harris and Maya Lundberg. Furthermore, I radically changed the appearance of the hybrid dinosaurs in the script, the Deinonychus Draxi, where they now look 100% like the normal Velociraptors from the films.

However, I really wanted the drawing to have a realistic painting, so I asked my brother's friend, Camila Vytória, if she could paint this drawing for me, which she agreed to. This was the second drawing that Camila painted for me.

I loved the final result of the painting and I am immensely grateful for it. Thank you very much, Camila! If you want to know her wonderful work, click here: www.instagram.com/vcamilart/

In the last fanart, I redesigned the logo for the fourth film in the Jurassic Park franchise if it had been released at the time John Sayles' script had been written. I improved the line and this logo was just perfect, because it really looked very similar to the official movie logos. This was my last fanart of John Sayles' Jurassic Park IV and currently I'm not interested in making more fanarts of this script, because I feel that my work here is done.

A little art of Spartacus, one of the hybrid dinosaurs from the second discarded script for Jurassic Park IV, written by John Sayles. This drawing was made in 2023 by Ralbino hamster (also known as Ralbi), an incredible German artist and super nice person that I met on Tumblr. To draw Spartacus, she was based on two fanarts that I made of this dinosaur a while ago and the result was very good. If you want to see her work, click here: www.tumblr.com/ralbinohamster

BONUS: These are a series of fanarts made by YouTuber Terrordome 3000, who made a video in 2017 about the development of the fourth film until it reached the final product. These photos show what Jurassic Park IV would be like if John Sayles' script was accepted by Steven Spielberg. Yes, this YouTuber was the first to make fanarts of hybrid dinosaurs based on the script.

If you want to see his video that talks EVERYTHING about Jurassic Park IV before it became Jurassic World, from discarded ideas and scripts, rumors from the time, etc., click here: Mysterious Islands: The History of Jurassic Park 4

In addition, this script had two things that until today have not been explored in the franchise: Graphic violence/gore and the constant use of firearms. The intent of Sayles' script was apparently to make the fourth film in the franchise an R-rated movie, something we've only had in Michael Crichton's two books, which is interesting.

As I said before, the story of the previous films was more of the same for focusing on isolated incidents on one of the islands, where the protagonists always fled from dinosaurs without the slightest chance of defending themselves against them. However, here it is different, as all the characters had weapons to defend themselves against the dinosaurs and were always ready for any risk situation.

Furthermore, just like in Crichton's books, the script contained scenes of extreme violence and a lot of gore, where dinosaurs wreaked havoc and killed people in various possible ways, be it tearing people apart, tearing off their heads or limbs, devouring someone alive and etc. In other words, here the dinosaurs, just like the dinosaurs in the books that gave rise to the first two films in the franchise, were treated as monsters, who kill for pure pleasure, contrary to what was implemented in the films, where dinosaurs are treated as animals who act on instinct just like any other animal.

The problem is that if this script was approved at the time the script was written, the film would probably bring a lot of loss to Universal, since the film proposed by Sayles was a film for adults. Are you tired of knowing that even today dinosaur films are treated as films for the whole family to watch, due to the fact that many children like dinosaurs. Because of this, to this day Universal does children's merchandising in the franchise, in which it sells toys from the films to all children, making huge profits from it.

If a film like that was released at that time, the film would be a failure, because in addition to the fact that fans would not like the film under any circumstances, the film would not attract the attention of children, causing Universal to lose a lot of money, since children's merchandising generates a lot of profit for it. This film would certainly be a complete failure, where this film would bury the franchise once and for all for an indefinite period of time, just as happened with the Dino Crisis franchise after the release of Dino Crisis 3.

And it doesn't end there, as it was revealed years later that John Sayles had written a proposed third script for the fourth film after the second script was leaked onto the internet. Not much is known about this third script, but there are reports that this script would bring back Lex Murphy (John Hammond's granddaughter), who would uncover a conspiracy involving hybrid dinosaurs.

The problem is that unlike the second script, where the Deinonychus Draxi always had the same physical appearance as the Velociraptors, that is, they were normal dinosaurs despite being hybrids (just like the Indominus rex and the Indoraptor, which are hybrid dinosaurs but are normal dinosaurs visually speaking), the hybrid dinosaurs in this script were more bizarre and much worse than imagined, as years later conceptual arts of these hybrid dinosaurs, made by Carlos Huante, were leaked onto the internet.

Yes, those freaks that actually look more like monsters from B horror movies than dinosaurs are the hybrid dinosaurs in this third script, according to Carlos Huante himself.

My God, what the fuck?! Apparently this third script is much worse than the second script that had been leaked on the internet years before. Man, what was going on in that screenwriter's head, it almost seems like he had snorted or smoked some drug to come up with this ridiculous idea of half-human dinosaurs, literally.

Speaking of those concept arts of human-hybrid dinosaurs that look more like monsters from a B-horror action movie than dinosaurs made by Carlos Huante, Carlos actually made a video on his YouTube channel discussing the hybrids concept arts. They were commissioned by Joe Johnston for his pitch of JP4.

According to Carlos, they were made during a meeting in 2004 and based on their discussions, not a script. Seems like the arts was made parallel to the John Sayles script. However, Carlos claims that the hybrid dinosaurs in his conceptual arts are the hybrid dinosaurs from the third discarded script written by Sayles as I had said previously, where there would even be a fight between the hybrid T. Rex and the hybrid Triceratops.

Yes, those hideous freaks are not the hybrid dinosaurs from Sayles' second script that was leaked on the internet, as the script itself confirms that the Deinonychus Draxi are literally the Velociraptors of the franchise, with few differences in physical appearance. The problem is that to this day, many people think that the hybrid dinosaurs in the leaked script that we have available to date are those abominations from Carlos' concept arts, and that is not true.

Like, every time someone talks about this script, that person states with certainty that the dinosaurs in this script are the dinosaurs from those concept arts, but that person hasn't even read the leaked script, because the script itself denies this by stating that the hybrid dinosaurs they are literally the Velociraptors of the franchise. It's no wonder that to this day no one in this world has had the courage to make a fanart of the hybrid dinosaurs from the script, where me, Hellraptor, Ralbino hamster and the youtuber Terrordome 3000 are the only ones who drew the Deinonychus Draxi based on the script, not on Carlos Huante's arts.

But anyway, I hope you enjoyed the fanarts I made from this discarded script.

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hopeymchope · 2 years ago

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Jurassic World Dominion

So I've actually been a big fan of the Jurassic Park franchise basically my whole life, and I just want to say: I have no idea why people are hating Jurassic World Dominion as much as they are.

Honestly, I'd probably rank it like fourth out of the six films, but I'd still say "pretty dang good."

A large number of semi-random and SPOILERY thoughts follow:

I love that we went back to the primary Big Bad of the novels (and the Behind-the-Scenes Bad of the first film) and finally spent time on them in the movies! I’m always happy to spend time digging into the source material of the novels — and believe me, there’s still some stuff in the two books that I’d like to see brought to film someday...

I’m glad that they didn’t split up Owen and Claire between films again. The habit of sequels always splitting up/bringing back together the various couples is dumb.

I am legitimately surprised that Claire and Owen just drove off with Maisie at the end of the previous film and simply never told anyone where she was or spoke to any authorities about her. They legit just kidnapped her ass. Granted, she consented to that, but it’s still fucked up? She probably is heir to the Lockwood fortune, and frankly, shouldn’t Iris (her nanny/housekeeper from the previous film) more entitled to guardianship... ?

I wish they found a way to keep Franklin and Zia in the movie for a lot longer. Those two were some of the best parts of Fallen Kingdom.

Kudos for talking about Claire’s lingering guilt for the first film and the end events of the second. However, I kind of wish Maisie had gotten some time to ponder/process her own guilt for what happened. Although she certainly has her own internal identity struggles to work though.

Since Grant and Malcolm already got to return for previous sequels in major ways, it’s cool to have Ellie lead the charge for the original trio this time around. I respect and admire that decision.

As happy as I am to see the original trio return, I can’t help but wish we got Julianne Moore/Sarah Harding tossed in, too. That would’ve been so great. The Lost World film needs more respect, and she was a great complement to Ian’s character. But really, it’s a packed house in here already. It might’ve been hard to drag in even MORE characters.

Surprised that we never saw Lowery from the first JW return. They foreshadow his presence on the BioSyn compound by showing his face in the papers of former Jurassic World employees who have moved to working for BioSyn, but he never surfaces. Instead of giving us some new characters running the communications in the mountain-framed reserve, it would’ve been absolutely aces to use Lowery and/or Vivian again!

That Malta sequence is absolute goddamn dynamite. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time thanks to the brilliant editing and pulse-pounding score. VERY happy to have Omar Sy back in the cast for a while, too! He was the one I was most worried about throughout this scene. Even though I knew Claire and Owen would escape safely, I was still completely on edge about how in the hell they’d do it. 10/10 sequence.

Santos was such a nasty piece of work that it’s downright weird for her to not linger in the movie longer, IMO. She is so pointlessly cruel at times.

DUUUUUDE, they figured out a way to explain/bring in finally getting feathered dinosaurs without getting rid of what we already have. SO fuckin’ nice. Mad respect for this.

I did NOT expect them to suddenly give Dr. Wu a sympathetic arc, but I’m surprisingly ok with it. It makes sense for him to finally grow from his prior experiences. And yet... I think he should still have to somehow answer for a lot of what he’s done. Particularly the Indoraptor. Like, there’s no good goddamn reason to ever create an Indoraptor unless your goal is to make a militarized killing machine, dude.

It’s worth noting that Maisie is told very clearly that she is necessary in order to prevent the world from entering a major famine that will result in the deaths of hundreds of thousands. And after initially seeming very receptive to the importance of this, she promptly says “Fuck those people” and makes a break for it. I get that she wants her freedom and that teenagers are rebellious, but that is fucking harsh.

Therizinosaurus and Pyroraptor sequences were very cool. They looked awesome and did very cool stuff. They even managed to justify the Therizinosaurus being aggressive and scary in spite of it still being a clear herbivore through clever unspoken storytelling.

Giganotosaurus, on the other hand? Kinda underwhelming, IMO. And hey- are we supposed to believe he has the same “movement based on motion” as the T-Rex does in the movies, or what?? Because they seem to imply it but never clarify if (or why) that would be true.

Dilophosaurus is back after being absent since 1993. Yay! But they’re ALL juvenile-sized, without a single one being adult-sized. Boo!

Sam Neill/Alan Grant seems like he’s the least engaged of the five returning leads. He’s mostly here for his check, and I can’t fault him for that. I just wish he had a little more to do that would show off his expertise and experience with these creatures. I’m glad he’s present even if he’s got little to do besides phone it in — it definitely wouldn’t be the same without him.

Ian gets some of the best dialogue, of course. His pessimism about the world speaks to me deeply.

This movie falls into the half of the franchise that is sadly afraid to kill off any sympathetic characters. I honestly prefer it when they’re willing to let likable characters die, because it really raises the stakes. But at the same time, I didn’t particularly want to see any of these new characters go down? Idk. Maybe I would’ve been okay with losing Ramsay? Or, hey - why not have Dr. Wu get his little redemption arc but still die by the end? Idk.

By the final act of the film, it becomes pretty obvious why the characters were kept separated from one another for most of the running time. It’s just a real problem to juggle that many characters all trying to avoid dinosaurs in a GROUP, y’know? It’s hard to track them all in a single shot, and it’s hard to keep the stakes feeling high if no one’s actually dying along the way. I saw one of the guys from Easy Allies compare it to watching a large, tightly packed group trying to maneuver through a haunted house; there’s definitely truth in that.

The ending fails to address a few major outstanding issues, IMO. I really wish they had given us some lip service to talk about the finer details of how the significant number of dinosaurs in the former BioSyn preserve is going to help make coexistence with the remainder easier to handle... or how, exactly, Claire and Owen are allowed to retain custody of Maisie. After they kidnapped a girl, the world went on a four-year manhunt for her, and then authorities finally rescued everybody and obviously were like “Oh shit it’s Maisie Lockwood” and then ........ ???

........it feels weird and kind of off-putting to actually see Grant and Ellie kiss? I never realized until this moment that they share extremely little on-screen affection in the first JP. But hey, at least they finally got back together... even if it’s much too late for them to ever follow up on Grant’s newfound affection for/tolerance for children in the first film. Alas.

#jurassic world #jurassic park #movies #jurassic world dominion #jurassic world: dominion

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ogradyfilm · 2 years ago

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Recently Viewed: Scream (2022)

[The following review contains MINOR SPOILERS; YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!]

The most recent chapter in the Scream saga opens with a simple establishing shot of a house, captured from an angle that flattens the frame into an almost perfectly two-dimensional image reminiscent of a child’s crayon drawing—an appropriate visual metaphor for the movie’s overarching themes, which revolve entirely around archetypes and iconography.

Like its predecessors, this belated addition to the franchise is unabashedly self-aware, gleefully eviscerating not only the usual tropes and conventions of the horror genre, but also the very concept of the “legacy sequel”—an increasingly prevalent trend in popular culture (the past nine months alone have seen the release of Spider-Man: No Way Home, Jurassic World: Dominion, and Top Gun: Maverick). From the derivative plot to the recycled conflicts, this “soft reboot” is built on a foundation of nostalgia—it even resurrects the first film’s killer for an obligatory (albeit narratively significant) cameo appearance. Furthermore, all of the new characters—victims and villains alike—are intimately familiar with the accepted “rules” of slasher stories, violently rejecting any deviation from the traditional formula—a clear commentary on the “toxic fandom” phenomenon.

This postmodern tone works best when it lurks in the background, leaving the fourth wall intact and allowing the clichés to speak for themselves. In one particularly memorable sequence, for example, the cinematography and soundtrack gradually build up to a predictable jump scare… only to repeatedly withhold the expected payoff, blue balling the audience to a ludicrous degree.

Such efficiently structured scenes—which convey the film’s central thesis through action rather than long-winded, on-the-nose dialogue—are far more effective than snappy one-liners and pithy quips. Like Airplane! and The Naked Gun, Scream earns its biggest laughs when it plays its absurd premise completely straight, straddling the razor thin line between suspense and comedy—while also delivering the bloody thrills that gore hounds demand.

Miraculously, directors Matt Bettinelli-Olpin and Tyler Gillett (collectively credited as Radio Silence) make this delicate balancing act seem totally effortless.

#Scream #Scream (2022)#Scream 2022 #Scream 5 #Matt Bettinelli-Olpin #Tyler Gillett #Radio Silence #David Arquette #Neve Campbell #Courtney Cox #horror #film #writing #movie review

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silly-solipsists-xenogenders · 2 years ago

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indominexgender!

derived from the very silly dinosaur name indominus rex

indominexgender is a gender related to the indominus rex from jurassic world, the fourth movie in the jurassic park franchise! an indominus rex is part t-rex, velociraptor, cuttlefish, and more! it is described as highly intelligent and ruthless, and made through genetic modification.

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made for day 4 of @sloth-gender 's coining event: movies!

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swan2swan · 4 years ago

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where would you rank Camp Cretaceous in the Jurassic Park/World franchise?

It’s its own beast, because shows give you unprecedented leeway for character development and action scenes, and the budget and pacing are all different.

There are a few scenes and moments that I would honestly put into the Top 10 ______ of the franchise in multiple categories (Sammy’s scene with the Sinoceratops is possibly the best herbivore scene in the franchise, and the T. Rex finding them under the table is one of the best horror/suspense moments...), but the characters themselves are pretty much universally superior to 95% of the characters in the main franchise (but, again: Camp Cretaceous is 5-6 hours of screentime, so it’s already two movies long, and any Camp Cretaceous kid’s screentime already dwarfs that of the movie characters, so they’re just...better built than the ones who need to be Characters You Can Understand in Five Minutes).

Tranq gun to my head, though...ummmm...probably 3rd. Definitely better than Fallen Kingdom and JP3. More expanded than Big Rock. I find it hard to put it up against TLW as far as overall scenes...but, nah, it takes it. Definitely third place, minimum.

It might be the best thing JP has put out, though, OUTSIDE OF THE PRACTICAL EFFECTS AND ANIMATRONICS AND TECHNICAL PIONEERING OF THE FIRST FILM and the imaginative reboot of the fourth movie...it definitely feels like the Entry That Most Realizes the Franchise’s Potential, though. Dinosaur poachers, hiding in abandoned buildings, moral decisions, interpreting animal behavior, ganging up to fight dinosaurs, riding dinosaurs...everything you could ever want from Jurassic is in this show.

....sorry I got long-winded. XD

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aion-rsa · 3 years ago

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How the Jaws Scene in Back to the Future Part 2 Predicted Modern Blockbusters

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Back to the Future Part II is a strange movie. As a sequel that director Robert Zemeckis and screenwriter Bob Gale never intended to make, the ambitious follow-up to one of the greatest sci-fi comedies of all time was put into production simultaneously with Part III, which may have ultimately hurt the middle chapter since Zemeckis was still shooting scenes filmed in the Old West while editing Part II’s trippy vision of the then distant future…of 2015.

Even so, there are elements in the second Back to the Future that still play like gangbusters today, particularly in the sequences set during 2015. To be sure, part of the charm now is what those wild guesses about the future got wrong—such as the idea we’d all be driving around in flying cars, or even simply own cheap cars that didn’t run on fossil fuels. There were no real hover boards in 2015 (or 2021 for that matter), nor even automated Texaco pumps. Yet what Back to the Future Part II got very right is the numbing horror of something like Jaws 19.

Indeed, one of the best bits in the whole film is a slight dig at BTTF’s own studio, as well as the legacy of the film’s producer. The original Jaws is of course the first modern Hollywood blockbuster and it put Steven Spielberg on the map. With its innovative storytelling of leaving the monster to the imagination before finally providing the spectacle in the third act, Jaws is a masterpiece in narrative restraint that could still play for all audiences.

…Which is something no one would say about the three cash-in Jaws sequels that Universal Pictures green lit in the span of 12 years after 1975. In fact, when Back to the Future Part II was released in ’89, it’d only been two years since Jaws: The Revenge, the one where the ghost of Jaws went Bahamas and chased the Chief Brody character’s widow to the Caribbean while on a vendetta for what happened in ’75. It’s kind of hilarious.

As is the scene in Back to the Future Part II. In that sequence, Michael J. Fox’s Marty McFly stands slack jawed in the middle of Hill Valley’s town square, the same space that was so memorably used in the first BTTF film where Marty was forced to finally accept he’d traveled to the year 1985. In the sequel, he comes to realize what it means to be in 2015 when he turns around to face the local multiplex, which has only one film on its marquee: Jaws 19. And then to demonstrate to Marty the state of 21st century special effects, the “HOLOMAX” release teases its thrills as a holographic Great White Shark emerges from the building and descends on Marty’s head.

Perhaps like many an audience member who choked on their popcorn kernels in ’75 with fear, Marty screams bloody murder—and then realizes it’s just a movie and scoffs, “The shark still looks fake.” Yes, it always did, but at least in the first movie that didn’t matter so much.

At the time, the scene was a nice dig at Universal’s expense as well as the Jaws franchise as a whole. What was once the most revolutionary Hollywood movie of 1975 had become a punchline by 1989: a once glorious title that’d been run into the ground with endless cash grab sequels. And the joke is even funnier because of the “19” in the title. Nineteen movies of the same franchise. Could you even imagine?!

Oh, how sweet the irony is, then, that one of the most absurd notions in Back to the Future Part II turned out to be the most true! No, there haven’t been 19 Jaws movies (yet), but that might be by virtue of the studio churning the franchise’s mystique into putty before Gen-Xers and Millennials could grow up with it beneath unsullied nostalgia glasses. Nevertheless, the future where Jaws 19 could exist came true.

Consider that we scoff at the idea of 19 Jaws movies being made in 40 years, but Marvel Studios has released 25 pictures in only 13, with two more due out before Christmas 2021. And that doesn’t even include the television shows that are now coming to dominate Disney+.

I know what some will say: Marvel movies are a series of interconnected franchises, as opposed to one amorphous content farm. But that’s not entirely accurate. There are exceptions, of course, which stand out as singularly distinct from other MCU efforts. There’s Black Panther, for instance. That 2018 Oscar nominee is totally removed from the events of The Avengers, you might say. Then there’s Guardians of the Galaxy and its wacky space opera shenanigans occurring literal light years away from the events of Iron Man 3.

And yet, the appeal for most moviegoers, and the brilliance of Marvel’s marketing strategy, is that they all seem like the same thing to the undiscerning eye. And even to the discerning one, there is a pat familiarity to the formula, story beats, and sitcom-esque ability to wink at the audience at its own silliness. Tonally, they all feel of one piece. Hence why the first Shang-Chi movie was gladly welcomed by the industry last month as Marvel’s latest blockbuster hit—a feat borne in large off it being the next Marvel movie, as opposed to a new original property without a built-in audience.

It’s an aspect to the whole series which caused Dune director Denis Villeneuve to suggest that some Marvel movies are “cut and paste.” It’s also a formula which aids the studio to force its millions of fans to see it “as all connected” and be encouraged to go see the Ant-Man sequel they might otherwise skip in order to discover how its post-credits scene will set up the deus ex machina for Avengers: Endgame.

And that aforementioned Black Panther originally had its protagonist introduced in Captain America: Civil War, an Avengers movie by another name. It’s also the only “Cap” flick to cross $1 billion because they stuck Iron Man in it. Similarly, James Gunn’s Guardians films are genuinely auteur-driven, yet they still worked as a years-long tease of Avengers: Infinity War and Endgame’s big bad: Thanos. Hell, Infinity War’s biggest selling point in the trailer was seeing the Avengers and Guardians meet face-to-face for the first time.

The methods and talent being used to produce these endless sequels are far more sophisticated and entertaining than the hack work which produced Jaws: The Revenge, but then that’s why Jaws only lasted four movies and Marvel’s already mapping out its 30th “event” in the next few years.

This is not meant to only criticize Marvel, however. They are simply the most successful studio at exploiting their intellectual property in the 21st century. Universal’s own Fast and Furious movies aren’t half bad at that game, though. This summer just saw the 10th “Fast Saga” movie when you count Hobbs and Shaw. And while Vin Diesel claims the 11th main line Fast and Furious movie will be the last, you just know with its own Avengers-sized cast that Hobbs and Shaw will be merely the first spinoff franchise from “the family.”

Even Spielberg, who was reportedly never happy with the Jaws sequels and what they did to his first masterwork, has been much more ready to “open up” later successes like Jurassic Park. Considered a “smart” blockbuster entertainment in 1993 that inspired genuine awe from millions of moviegoers, that film’s fourth sequel (which was produced by Spielberg, like all the follow-ups) reveled in watching dinosaurs stalk around a haunted house, as if they were Frankenstein and Dracula. Next year’s Jurassic World: Dominion is supposedly intended to be the “final” film of the three most recent, Chris Pratt-led sequels, as well as another sendoff to the original 1993 movie’s cast. Yet it seems dubious that it’ll be the last film set in that “universe.”

After all, the “Skywalker Saga” ended with a whimper in 2019’s Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, but Disney is preparing to churn out more Star Wars movies and TV shows than ever before in the next decade.

This is not to say you should feel ashamed for enjoying any of these movies or franchises. Folks like what they like. But what Back to the Future Part II perhaps unintentionally predicted was that audiences would have an appetite for a proverbial Jaws 19.

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When BTTF became a trilogy, sequels were still seen as a creatively risky proposition. Filmmakers often maintained artistic credibility by attempting to turn sequels into a larger thematic whole—often as a trilogy. Lucas set that standard with Star Wars, and only after his buddy Francis Ford Coppola claimed he’d never make another Godfather movie after Part II. Spielberg originally walked away from Indiana Jones after three movies, and many likely wish he’d stayed firm about that in retrospect. Meanwhile, Zemeckis and Gale have done the near impossible thing: refuse to allow Universal to make a fourth Back to the Future movie or reboot the series entirely.

But equivocations in the industry about a proverbial Jaws 19 are long gone. What was once a cheeky riff on the dystopian Coca-Cola billboard ads in Blade Runner have become a modern day reality in 2021. And hey, there’s now a real holographic Times Square billboard ad for that, too.

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smokeybrandreviews · 5 years ago

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Smokey brand Movie Reviews: Full Shares

I have one helluva backlog of films to work through but, between those and other distractions, i am having just the dickens of a time getting through them. I’ve started Uncut Gems three different times but the tension, man, it stresses me out way too much. I have to take breaks in between and just forget about where i left off so i need to start over. I have to say, though, the twenty to thirty minutes i have seen is absolutely excellent. In the meantime, while i muster enough nerve to actually finish that film, i wanted to revisit one of my all-time favorites. Way back when i first saw this movie, it gave me the same intense, stressed out, panic i feel watching Gems. Alien changed the way that I interacted with film and, to this day, it’s one of maybe a handful of movies to ever illicit true fear from me. I saw it, for the first time as a young kid of maybe six or seven, in a late night showing on TV and i remember even the broadcast edit spazzing me the f*ck out. Imagine my apprehension seeing the theatrical cut fr the first time a few years later. As i got older and learned to appreciate the moving parts of film individually, i came to love Alien even more. Not only is it actually terrifying. it’s one of the best built movies i have ever seen and carries the template for bad-ass film like a badge of honor. Cats say the sequel, which i’ll get to in a later review, is better than the first, but i wholeheartedly disagree. This movie is easily top three all-time for me and here’s why. I have to tell you from the outset, this movie is perfect in my opinion. There are no flaw so don’t expect any negative, just me gushing about the excellence within.

The Outstanding

The very best aspect of this movie is easily Sigourney Weaver’s portrayal as Ellen Ripley. My goodness, was this character absolutely amazing. When people think of Ripley, they often remember Cameron’s version of her from Aliens. To most people, Ripley is that chick, strapped down in a power loader, calling the Queen Xenomorph a b*tch to her face. That is, undeniably, iconic. Ellen Ripley solidified the template for strong, female, lead with that scene. But Ripley didn’t start out that way. She had to earn that title and it began with her battle for survival in the original Alien. Ripley began as an undermined, kind of by-the-book, Warrant Office, just trying to get back in time for her daughter’s eleventh birthday. Over the course of two hours, we watched Ripley evolve into the absolute unit that she is known for and the nuanced portrayal of that evolution by Weaver shows us the harrowing journey with an almost visceral vulnerability. Ellen Ripley is not a character, she is a person. You feel for this woman and her struggle. You root for her. You gasp when she fails. You want her to survive. To get attached to a film character so completely is testimony to the excellence of that actor’s performance and Sigourney Weaver turns one in for the ages. Not bad for a twenty-year-old’s second film appearance, first speaking role.

You can’t speak about Alien without the iconic imagery provided by the nightmares of H.R. Giger’s art. The raw, horrifyingly sexual, disgustingly organic, yet wholly bizarre vestiges of the LV-426 hive were incredible. That initial pan of the fossilized Space Jockey fused to his pilot’s seat can’t help but inspire very real awe. I imagine seeing that reveal on an Imax screen and it is absolutely riveting. More so, entering into the hive itself, wit all those corridors woven from steel and flesh, leading into the pitfall trap full of the waiting, legitimately alien eggs illicit a feeling of primal terror. Those things are nothing like anything terrestrial. They are just familiar enough to inspire curiosity from the audience but uncanny enough to trigger apprehension. Absolutely brilliant but the true genius, the source of constant panic, belongs to the adult xenomorph, itself.

Big Chap, as the production team called it, was a miracle of effects work. The suit was custom built to fit the near seven foot frame of Bolaji Badejo but it was his physicality that lent an organic presence to the techno-organic monstrosity. That original Xenomorpgh was wildly terrifying to me. Even at my young age, i weathered Freddy Krueger, Michael Myers, and Jason Voorhees, with rather stoic aplomb but the Xenomorph sent me into a panic. I had legitimate nightmares about this thing which had never happened before. Giger had created a creature of such instinctual terror that you has no choice by to fear it and that sh*t is amazing.

I touched on how excellent Ellen Ripley was as a character, giving well deserved credit to Weaver’s portrayal but, like all classic characters in storytelling, Ripley began on the page. The writing for Alien is some of the best i have ever had the pleasure of experiencing. Every character, every scene, every aspect, of this story is tight. Dan O’Bannon deserves all credit for this classic script. He wrote a story filled with characters and suspense, never identifying male of female unless absolutely necessary. I miss when films were films and not soapboxes for gender politics. It’s amazing how timeless and iconic characters can become when you’re not trying to push a goddamn agenda.

Now, O’Bannon’s script is excellent but it took a true visionary to bring it to life. Ridley Scott was that creative. Alien was Scott’s second directorial effort and he was able to craft a visual narrative far beyond what his tangible experience would dictate. Scott is a true visionary. The way he saw O’Bannon’s script was incredible. I mean, the vistas of the Derelict Ship, the sanitized halls of the Nostromo, that whole retro-futuristic look, the abject terror and repugnant reversal of sexuality with the Alien; All of that is Scott. O’Bannon gave this man one helluva blueprint but Scott built a goddamn monument of cinema in his own right.

The sound design in this film is absolutely classic. The hisses from the alien, the clacking of the computers, that harrowing voice from MOTHER during the adrenaline packed climax; Every sound, echo, pitch, and clank is perfectly administered to embellish the hellish visuals onscreen. I’ll never forget the first time seeing Brett’s death scene. The subtle sway of chains giving way to the impactful sound of those water droplets hitting his face, lulling you into a false sense of security, only to see the Xenomorph puncture his skull. That mixture of screams and rattling chains was haunting, brilliant use of sound for a horror set piece and testament to it’s voracity.

I spoke at length about Sigourney Weaver’s casting and performance but literally everyone is outstanding in this film. being an original script, not based on any existing media, you had an open template to create these characters. In a sense, casting for this type of project is even more tantamount than building a cinematic adaption of a novel or comic. This film is going to be known for these characters, for this world, going forward and Alien nailed this sh*t. Aside from Weaver’s star-turning performance as Ripley, John Hurt turned in a rather endearing outing as Kane, the first victim of the Xenomorpgh. Tom Skerritt was probably the biggest name in the film so everyone thoight that his character Dallas would be the lone survivor. Nope. Veronica Cartwright’s Lambert was woefully unraveled, specially during the Chestburster scene and Ian Holm’s Ash is easily unnerving his uncanny valley-esque performance. Harry Dean Stanton’s Brett was a man of few words but my second favorite performance in this entire film belongs to Yaphet Kotto. His portrayal as the aggressive, outspoken, incredibly loyal, Parker, endures to this day. These characters are all incredibly written and skillfully performed, bringing characters to life that will endure through time.

This movie came out in 1979, man! It is four decades old an can still give anything created today, even with out advances in effects work and film techniques, a run for it’s money. That is testament to the deft hand and expert precision in the construction of this movie. It’s rare that a film can be so timeless and it’s easily the first i have ever seen to capture that high mark. There are others like that; Jurassic Park, Twelve Angry Men, Jaws, The Godfather, To kill a Mockingbird, Star Wars, but even those classics show chinks in the armor. Not Alien. That Retro-futuristic design is absolutely timeless and fits in with any era of cinema.

The world Alien created was ripe for elaboration. The franchise, alone, produced three sequels; Each an amazing look at different film styles, directorial vision, and cinematic genre. Aliens is arguably one of the greatest sequels ever and has a completely different tone that the first. Some would ay it’ even better than the first. I wouldn’t but others do. There have been books, comics, games, and so much more based on this world. Alien: Isolation is easily the best game ever made based on the franchise and it stars that eleven-year-old daughter turned adult woman, Amanda Ripley, in a similar situation as her mother. Let me tell you, bad-assery must run in the family because Amanda was just as dope as her mom during her own gauntlet. And just like her ma’s adventure, Amanda’s outing stressed me out to no end. I loved the Earth War comic growing up and the introduction of Ripley 8 was something special. She was kind of ridiculous in the fourth film, Alien; resurrection but the comics did 8 much better justice. Speaking of artificial constructs, i would be remiss if i didn’t mention the absolutely charming android Xenomorph, Norbert, and his predecessor, Jeri, but my favorite hybrid is definitely Eloise. That’s not to mention the excellent stories with in the Aliens versus Predator mythos. I’m not going to get too heavy into that lore but you’d be hard-pressed to find a more amazing, female protagonist, outside of Ripley, than Machiko Noguchi; The human Japanese woman, blooded by the Elite Leader Yautja, Broken Tusk, given the title of Little Knife by the space-faring Predators. Ma is a f*cking machine and it’s a crime AvP ignored her story for what we eventually got in cinemas. Hell, there are even aspect of the Prometheus portion of this universe that i like, even though i don’t particularly like the film, itself. Elden is a dope character with a ton of potential for the overall lore going forward. There is so much excellent material in the Aliens expanded universe; Characters, concepts, worlds and more. The expansive nature and reverence for this universe rivals that of Star Wars, none of which could be possible without the inspired execution of the original Alien film.

The Verdict

What can i say? Alien is a goddamn masterpiece. From the second those titles slowly manifest to the exploration of LV-426, to the claustrophobic panic of the Nostromo, to Ripley’s triumphant yet uncertain fate in the end, i absolutely adore every aspect of this movie. Everything about this movie is deliberate and amazing. The performances are all excellent, everyone does an exceptional job. The set design is gorgeous and in the case of the alien hive within the Space Jockey’s ship, disgustingly beautiful. Giger’s art as perfect for this film but his design for Big Chap, the original Xenomorph design, was absolutely unnerving. The first time i saw it onscreen, i was both enthralled and horrified. To see the massive beast, in the few glimpses you got between some of the most excellent lighting ever captured on film, was incredible. There are shortcomings, sure, all films have them but i don’t believe them to be a negative. The pacing can be a little dragging at times but it’s absolutely necessary to build atmosphere. I thrive on slow burn films like The VVitch or Blade Runner 2049 and it was Alien that taught me patience in film can be a virtue. I cannot praise this film enough. For me, Alien is as close to perfect as can be. This easily gets my highest recommendation. If you’ve never seen Alien and appreciate sheer psychological terror, beautiful sets, brilliant direction, awe inspiring shots, and some of the best sound design ever captured on film, you’ll love this movie.

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Character Review of HTTYD 3

This is Part 1 of a two part movie review of How To Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World. Next up is the plot review.

As of March 3, I've seen it four times. The first was the February 2 early showing, the second and third were on opening weekend in a regular AMC theater, and the fourth was in IMAX yesterday, which, like, I'm bothered by the fact that this third movie in the franchise only has limited IMAX screenings whereas the first two were released in all IMAX theaters, and released in 3D to boot. But anyway, character review: (Also, spoilers abound, so only read this if you've seen it already)

He was at his BEST. That speech he gives to the Vikings in the great hall after Grimmel burns his house down gets more chilling and chilling with each viewing. Years ago when Dean Deblois was dropping hints over what to expect in the sequel, I got the impression that the arch of the trilogy would end with Hiccup's coronation as Chief at the end of the third. Instead, not only is he thrust into the role early thanks to Stoick's heartbreaking death, but we get to see him grow and struggle in the role of Chief, and I thought that character arch was pulled off sensationally. Although he takes after his mother's idealism in his attempts to save all innocent dragons from the hostile Trappers, he also embraces his father's lesson from the sequel that his first duty is to protect his people from harm and danger. His speech in the great hall encapsulates that beautifully with one powerful line after another.

Hiccup is truly the leader of his people by the end of this movie, and not only that, but at least from my perspective, he's also imminently relatable. He genuinely struggles with himself and questions whether he's capable of doing what needs to be done as Grimmel and the legion of Trappers advance on New Berk. That lack of internal belief he carried around inside him as a scrawny 15 year old boy before he shot down the Night Fury is still there, six years later, as a handsome 21 year old chief. His internal struggle really showed his humanity, and in my opinion, it was Hiccup's journey that drove this third movie more than any other character, including Toothless. Which brings me to our beloved Night Fury:

Ok, so I must confess, I wasn't totally satisfied with how his character was portrayed. What made Toothless so amazingly endearing in the first one was how he struck such a PERFECT balance between being this fierce, ferocious beast on one hand, and being this adorable little puppy dog on the other hand. For the most part, he kept that balance in the sequel, particularly at the end when he challenges Drago's Bewildabeast and becomes the new Alpha of all dragons. In this one, however, I honestly didn't get the sense that Toothless truly was the "Unholy Offspring of Lightning and Death Itself" like the Viking legends said Night Furies were. Even during the above scene in the clouds where he does the Lightning Bolt thing and goes into stealth mode, it felt more like a cheap trick to impress Luna than a symbol of how utterly deadly he can be, and sure enough, he only uses it that one time to get those four Deathgrippers off his back. To me, all those puppy dog moments - of which there are MANY in this one - are less adorable because they aren't contrasted with enough moments of genuine fierceness. Simply put: I liked Toothless a lot more in the first and second movies than in the third one.

That being said - and I'm going to repeat this in the plot review - the flaws in his character are made up for by the ending. He does the most human thing we've EVER seen him do when he literally gives Hiccup a big bear hug as they say good by. I put my hand over my mouth to control my emotions when I saw that! And then during the final scene where Hiccup visits him after 5 or 6 years, Toothless does a very animal like thing by failing to recognize Hiccup at first, which, as a big fan of the Jurassic World movies, reminded me of how the velociraptor Blue didn't recognize Owen after not seeing him for a year, thus putting Owen in a dangerous situation. But then as soon as Hiccup does the Forbidden Friendship thing, BOOM, Toothless's eyes widen like the sea, and he embraces his dear friend that he can't see every day anymore. To me, that was totally in character of who Toothless is as both a deadly Night Fury, but also the best friend a human could ask for.

I'm gonna say this straight up: If Captain Marvel, or Star Wars, or Ghostbusters, or whoever, is going for the narrative of Strong, Female, Characters that do Strong, Female, Things, they already have an archetype that everyone loves, and her name is Astrid Hofferson. She is the true embodiment of a strong, female character, and I thought everything that made HTTYD fans love her in the first one was on display again in the third one. I was worried about this too, because in the trailers, it looked like Deblois might have been relying too heavily on the mythos of the first one, specifically the talk on the cliff, which from the trailers looked copied and pasted into the third one. However, it came off SO much better on film than it looked in the trailer, including one of my favorite lines from the entire franchise:

"But you know what? I am the person I am today because of you. And I have watched you doubt yourself every day ever since."

Astrid does what a good woman is supposed to do for her man: Be there for him when he falls down, comfort him with kind words, and remind him of who he is and what he can do. And she does all that in addition to being the warrior princess that Tuffnut correctly described her as. She fulfills the old saying, "behind every great man, stands a great woman." The talk on the cliff in this one is JUST AS GOOD as the same talk in the first one. It didn't come off as contrived or forced like I thought it would. Another favorite part of mine was during Hiccup's speech where she throws her axe on the table and demands that the Vikings hear out his plan to abandon Berk. She does that despite explicitly disagreeing with that plan earlier, which means that she was willing to stand by her man and her Chief even though she herself wasn't enthusiastic about the plan at first. Overall, I felt that the Hiccstrid relationship drove this story almost as much as the friendship between Hiccup and Toothless, and it did it without devolving into cliched romance.

She was good...at least when she had actual time onscreen (more on that in the plot review). I LOVED how she developed a relationship of sorts with her future daughter-in-law by encouraging Astrid to comfort Hiccup when he was doubting himself. I remember thinking to myself in the theater, "wow, Hiccup has two incredible women in his life! What a gift." I also liked how she automatically became an authority figure on Berk despite being gone for 20 years. She basically plays the role of General by scouting out Grimmel's advances towards New Berk and by bailing out Hiccup and the gang when Grimmel outfoxes Hiccup by trapping him on his ship. Between Valka, Eret, Astrid, and Gobber, it's really cool to see how Hiccup has a good leadership council behind him.

Believe me, his character is SO much cooler if you've seen Game of Thrones. I can't emphasize enough how Kit Herrington's personality comes alive in Eret. In this one, my only complaint is that I wish we saw him more in combat fighting along side Gobber and Valka, although even as an adviser to Hiccup, he plays the role really well. A part of me wishes he gave Hiccup and Stoick more of a challenge when he was working for Drago in the 2nd one, because his knowledge of the world outside Berk is impressive, not to mention he's a natural leader, as he demonstrates during the speech in the great hall when he augments Hiccup's points. Whatever goofball traits he had in the sequel are gone in this one, and I liked that. Unfortunately, I can't say the same about...

Ugh. The teens could have disappeared entirely and it wouldn't have effected the plot at all (Grimmel would have found New Berk eventually. Ruffnut's stupidity simply allowed him to find it faster). There was absolutely no character development from any of them, and in Snotlout's case, he outright devolved. The primary reason I didn't think HTTYD 3 was an A+ movie is because the teens would not shut the hell up. I did NOT find most of their lines or antics funny, I found them distracting and annoying. These characters reached their apex in Gift of the Night Fury, and they never got better after that.

Is Gobber. Good man, good leader, kind of paranoid. His shining moment in this franchise remains his eulogy during Stoick's funeral. In this one, you could tell that Deblois didn't really have anywhere to go with his character, so he added a subplot with the constantly appearing Hob Gobblers, which to me was what Legend of the Boneknapper should have looked like. One thing I do wish is that we saw one quick appearance of the Trolls alongside the Hob Gobblers on New Berk, as that would have been an amusing validation of his line to Stoick from the first one.

He gets two WONDERFUL flashbacks with Little Hiccup.* But, there's one error that was made during those flashbacks, and I apologize in advance to everyone who has already pointed it out: Stoick's beard should have looked scruffier and redder like it does in the first one when he's younger, as opposed to straight with grey spots like in the second when he's older. His beard is straight with grey spots during the flashbacks. Assuming that wasn't an oversight by Dreamworks, I'm guessing they did it that way because it was easier to animate. Which is understandable, but still, I'm a stickler for consistency. (The missing tree branch in front of Hiccup's face in the first one still jars me every time I see it).

*My gods, every animation studio from Dreamworks to Disney to Pixar has MASTERED the art of creating adorable children. It never ceases to amaze me

Ok, WOW, I loved him as a villain! He was everything Drago Bludvist wasn't: Cunning, crafty, smart, and above all, relatable. Grimmel is what Hiccup possibly WOULD have become if he stuck his knife into the downed Night Fury. Both of them are cerebral, and both of them play this delightful mind game where they try to anticipate each other's moves and countermoves, which Grimmel wins more often than not. As Gobber said to Hiccup, "one day, you're going to pick a fight you can't win." If Drago made Hiccup pay for his idealism by costing him his fathers life, than Grimmel makes Hiccup pay by costing him his Dragon-Human utopia. Grimmel's actions cause Hiccup to eventually accept the painful truth that humans living with dragons every day is not possible without resorting to war and death to keep that utopia a reality. When a villain can change things like that, then you have a damn good villain, and not just a guy who gets in the way periodically like Alvin and Dagur from the TV show.

Additionally, I thought Grimmel was so much more personable than Drago. His talk to Hiccup in the house evoked the same feelings in me as the talk between Evelyn Deavor and Elastigirl in Incredibles 2, which is to say, I was relating to what BOTH of them were saying to each other. It was like the Light and Dark sides that exist inside all of us were speaking to each other. Whereas Drago was just pure evil and brute force, Grimmel was genuinely compelling and interesting. I would have liked Deblois to take a different story arch with this third film than just throwing another disposable villain in the mix, but as it is, Grimmel was a worthy character.

In Summary

Hiccup and Astrid were spectacular, Toothless was very good but could have been better, Valka, Eret, and Gobber played their roles well, and Grimmel was an excellent bad guy. The only downside was the Teens. If their comic relief was cut, or if they were actual characters, this could have been an A+ movie from start to finish as opposed to A+ at the end and at specific parts in between (like the speech and the talks on the cliff).

#httyd 3 #the hidden world #hiccup #toothless #astrid #valka #stoick #eret #Gobber #grimmel #characters #review #hiccstrid #night fury #dean deblois

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galacticbugman · 5 years ago

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My Jurassic Park/ Jurassic World Top Ten List of Prehistoric Creatures

So as some of you may know that I am a crazy Jurassic Park fan. I love the movies and I love the books. I thought it would be a pretty cool idea to post what my favorite dinosaurs are. I have a lot of favorite Dinosaurs in the Jurassic Park fandom but what are they? Let us dive into it. So get ready we are taking a short tour through the wilds of Isla Nublar and Isla Sorna for these favorites. Buckle up the the Jeep Wrangler is moving. These are not my photos but are stock and belong to their rightful owners. Spoilers ahead so watch out! If you have not seen the film turn back now you have been warned.

Number 10: The Stegosaurus

To begin my list of my favorite Jurassic Park/ Jurassic World Dinosaurs is this beast which was showcased in the search for Sarah scene in The Lost World: Jurassic Park. This is on my list for it was the first time we saw a plant eater attack a human in the series on screen. This attack was provoked by Sarah Harding as she was photographing the baby Stego in the nest. Her camera goes wonky and scares the baby and it alerts the family. Two big ones come from out of nowhere and start to attack Sarah by trying to swipe her with their large Thagomizers. She is almost killed but the massive tail spikes miss and she is left to live for another day. This was always one of the favorite parts for me in the Lost World for it was the first and only time we see a plant eater attack a human in the original trilogy. You don’t really see any other animal that is a vegetarian try to attack anyone. So this one kind of stands out there as one of the more interesting attacks in the Jurassic Park franchise movie wise. It is also one of the best designed and one of the coolest opening dinosaurs in the franchise. Lets let the heard move on and got down the road shall we.

Number 9: Ptranodon

The Ptranodon is one of the most under used Dinosaurs in the movies until you get to the third and fourth Jurassic movie. However in the first book there is a giant bird cage scene that we eventually got to see in the Jurassic Park /// film. This is a favorite of mine. The bird cage scene is one of the best scenes in the third JP film which many of us think was pretty clunky in some parts. I think it was much better than Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom in some aspects. This scene was one of those redeeming qualities in my opinion. In the book Alan Grant, Tim and Lex enter the bird cage and get attacked. In the film it is Alan, Eric, Mr. Kirby, Amanda Kirby, and Billy who wind up getting attacked. It is a terrifying sight but the design of these are pretty cool and just the sheer terror of this scene gives me chills. The photo of this is part of that scene where Billy is being swept down stream and this guy looks at the survivors like “your next!” this part always sends shivers up my spine for some reason. It is just one of those scary moments that shouldn’t really be that scary. I did like them in the Jurassic World scene but their design is not as good as these guys. So I am adding this one as a JP Win instead of a Jurassic World win because even though I liked that movie these looked the most real in my book. This is a much darker and more intense scene for me than the birds escaping the bird cage in Jurassic World. You may have another opinion but this is mine right here. Lets move on.

Number 8: Procompsagnathus AKA Compys!

These little buggers spell trouble! They are one of the scariest little terrors on Isla Sorna. Introduced to the franchise in the Jurassic Park Novel by Michael Crichton. These guys were set up to be used for waist management. These are the first to escape to the main land and attack a few people including a little girl playing on the beach of Costa Rica. That scene was first seen in The Lost World: Jurassic Park but it was in the opening of the Jurassic Park Novel. These guys will jump on you and not let go. Deter Stark learned this the hard way. After getting lost to pee in the woods he falls down a hill after getting turned around after one pops up and scares him. He is soon swarmed not once but twice and getting torn up. They bite him from all angles and dig into his flesh with their claws. Hammond in the novel was given the same treatment. After falling down a hill after grousing about the failure of the park and hiring all the wrong people and thinking about firing all the original park operatives and wanting to make a new park he falls down and hill and meets a similar demise. These guys are one of my favorites because at first they look kind of cute like a few other Jurassic Park dinos. They look like they mean you no harm but if you tick them off then that is when they get you. karma on Jurassic Park does work. You can’t be stupid in Jurassic Park and if you are a smart-alek or just a plain jerk then best beware Karma on Jurassic Park comes in many forms and in some cases it comes in shades of green.

Number 7: Blue

I am a sucker for Raptors and Blue is only my third favorite in the series. Her relationship with Owen is something that was never explored in any concept in the original films or the first two novels. This is a very interesting concept and makes for an interesting story. Some people maybe against what they are doing in the new films but I kind of like the new ones for they broaden the horizon of the story of Isla Nublar’s animals. Blue is a cool Velociraptor and almost has a human like quality of emotions. She trusts Owen and no one else. She is pretty cool and when it comes to defending Owen and his crew. She is one cut above the rest and not just a blood thirsty monster like the other raptors of Isla Nubar and Isla Sorna. She is alright in my book but kind of falls short. I have nothing against her if that is what you are saying she is smart and one heck of a clever girl in the long run.

Number 6; The Indominous Rex

Okay so now we are in hybrid territory and this guy is the only Hybrid that I really thought was interesting. The Indoraptor was kind of a retread in my book. It was just the Indominous in a different wrapper. This original Hybrid is the one that I really thought was pretty cool. It just comes to show how unhinged animals built in a lab can be. This sucker was completely hostile and would kill anything for fun. It was kind of sad that she really had no clue what to do she was just trying to survive and learn where she belonged in the food chain. She was quite the fighter and was a brutal monster. Her abilities reminded me of a few of the concepts from the original Michael Crichton novel. The Velociraptor that Ellie Sattler finds that could change color and the Carnotaurs that could blend to their surroundings could be the big inspiration pieces to creating this guy. That is just my theory anyway. I am a huge fan of the books so when ever I talk about a dinosaur I always try to mention the novel’s connection with said animal and why it may be like that. I am not one to criticize a Jurassic Park film for all of the parts to the novels are there on screen throughout all of the movies just told a little differently and this monster is just one of those things that I found very neat.

Number 5: Stiggy

Used for a more comical effort this guy was actually pretty cool. He was one of my favorite dinosaurs from the Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom film. This guy caused chaos and confusion in the very little screen time film. Again with a vegetarian that attacks people. This attack was not really intentional just more accidental in my book. This guy just runs amok and throws chairs and people every which way just for the heck of it. To be very honest this film was very wild with some of the comical stuff like the Indoraptor smiling just before ripping off Ken Wheatly’s arm and then killing him. This one I would count as comedic but it is more Jurassic Park style I guess. This one was a fun one though and has really grown in popularity in the fandom. I have to admit he has a certain personality to him. He comes off kind of cute and a little clumsy at times. ]

Number 4: The Brachiosaurus

Going back to the original movie and the very sad part of the Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom which included this animal is the Brach from 1993. This guy is the one intro Dinosaur that has really stuck with me and like most of us gave us the best exposure to what we were baring witness too during the first Jurassic Park movie. This is almost as Iconic as Rexy herself. This guy is number four for it had to be on the list somewhere. You just can’t forget the one dinosaur that all gave us the big reactions given by Alan Grant, Ian Malcolm, Ellie Sattler, and Donald Gennaro. It gave us and reaction of our own that this movie was going to rock. This one has always stuck with me and when it died in Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom after director J.A. Bayona said it was this one a little part of me just died inside. It was very sad even though it was not a real creature it was still a big part of the Jurassic Park series but as they say some eras must come to and end and the Jurassic Park era is no more. Welcome to Jurassic World I guess. As sad as it makes me to say that some legends still live on like Rexy from Jurassic Park (1993). So some things just don’t die to easy. Rexy is the most resilient of any of the dinosaurs.

Number 3: Rexy (Tyrannosaurus Rex)

Speaking of her majesty! I give you the Queen of the Jurassic Park/ Jurassic World Saga. She has always had a pretty lasting impression on all of us as fans of the Jurassic franchise. This female Rex has stood the test of time in her world gaining a lot of battle wounds over the time of five films soon to be six in 2021 with Jurassic World 3. I have to say she is only third on my list for she maybe iconic but sometimes even the poster children can’t win them all. Still she is pretty high on the list. I love the book and movie versions of this particular dinosaur. In the novel there is a second Rex which is younger than she and is a little more clumsy with a puppies gate. She on the other hand is tough and the young rex knew to stay away from her. In the movie who could forget the “Main Road” scene that first introduced us to her. In the book she is actually seen the first time they arrive to the T-rex Paddock as she eats the goat. The main road is almost the same with a character running out of a car after peeing their pants and totally freaking out with a few differences. Rexy has saved the hides of many a Jurassic Park visitor but I don’t think it was totally on purpose. She is one that always is always going to get the big reaction and I have been very sad that she has kind of been over shadowed by Blue in the recent films and has only been used in only a handful of scenes in the newer chapters of the franchise. Still she outdoes blue anytime. Sorry but she was here first my friends.

Number 2: The Tiger Striped Velociraptors and the Original Raptors of Jurassic Park and The Lost world: Jurassic Park.

I count these as one for they are all in the same category. Both of these Raptor clans gave us some of the biggest jump scares in the first two movies. I was not a very huge fan of the ones with the quill in Jurassic Park ///. The original raptors showed us what real terror was like. In the original novels they are just as terrifying and will stop at nothing to rip you to bits. In some cases that is exactly what they are good at. They are almost like the Compy packs but much bigger with bigger teeth and bigger claws. You have to be super smart to out think and fox these guys. The Tigers are my favorite for we see just how their social orders go in just that small scene where they are at the gas station near the worker complex where Nick Van Owen was trying to get a chopper called to pick up the remaining survivors. All the raptors are the top predators of the Jurassic Park series. They have a complex social structure and are hard to bring down. They never give up and they seem to always be on the hunt. They are one of my top favorites for they are just that Clever Girls. I bet you are wondering what is my first over all favorite??? It is not the raptors and not Rexy. Lets take a look at number one.

Number 1: Dilophosaurus AKA Spitter

This is my favorite dinosaur in the whole Jurassic Park series. I am very upset that this one has only been featured as an actual dinosaur in the first one. It has been eluded to in the last couple of films but that is not good enough. I want to see this one again. This guy is one of my favorites for its very personality. It is kind of cute one minute but then once angered it turns into a frilled nightmare lizard that shoots blinding poison at its target. This one is one of those scenes that give us that “Holy... Did you see that?!” Impression. The difference in this scene from the movie and the book is that in the book Nedry dies outside the Jeep in the movie its pretty much blocked out in the Jeep. The book gets really descriptive which sends shivers down my spine every time I read that. Still my all time favorite dinosaurs for its really interesting surprise attack mode. It is certainly a beautiful but deadly edition to Jurassic Park.

There you have it my top ten Jurassic Park dinosaurs. Of course I do have a few honorable mentions such as the Mosasaur, Carnotaur, and of course the Certasaur that we only got a few seconds of which I think was a complete let down for that creature and I am not the only one who thinks that. Now I have a mission for you; tell me what your favorite JP dinosaurs are and why. Thank you very much I think we survived another travel through Jurassic Park. Until then I am Zachary AKA Galactic_Bug_Man and I will see you on the trail.

#jurassic park #jurassic world #dinosaurs #velociraptor #tyrannosaurus rex #dilophosaurus #pteranodon #stiggy #Brachiosaurus #indominus rex #blue raptor #compys #stegosaurus #isla nublar #isla sorna #steven spielberg #michael crichton #adventure

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disneywizard · 3 years ago

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What can we say about 2021? Well it’s not 2020. But that’s about all it’s got going for it.

We lost Ed Asner, one of my favorite voice actors of all time, as well as Betty White, right before the end. But we have some bright spots too. I have my health, my family, and more merchandise than ever for my favorite animated series. On that note, let’s start my list.

First up, honorable mentions:

Young Justice: Phantoms

Okay, let’s be clear. Just like the last time, this show SHOULD be my number one, because it’s easily the best thing I’ve watched all year, bar none. But because of violence and ‘adult content’ I’ve had to restrict it from my normally family friendly list. Well I’m not doing that anymore. With Young Justice, Samurai Jack, Invincible...we’re finally starting to break the trend of homogenized adult animation. Starting next year, I’m implementing the “because of Young Justice” rule. If an adult show is good, and I mean really really really good, it can now potentially earn a spot on my list. But for this year, it’s only an honorable mention.

Hilda and the Mountain King

Hilda’s second season ended on quite the cliffhanger that was resolved in this movie event. It was very good, (and possibly a series finale? Unsure at this time). As a movie, however it doesn’t get to be on the list.

Dishonorable Mention:

Trollhunters: Rise of the Titans

It’s not very often that I put a negative on my list, but I have to acknowledge how incredibly AWFUL this movie was for what WAS one of my favorite franchises. It actually ruined the rewatch value of the series for me. This is a must MISS movie.

And now, the list itself:

10: Star Trek Prodigy

This show has only had five episodes that basically just set up its premise, but those episodes were so engaging and interesting that it set the stage for this show to snag my tenth slot. Available on Paramount+

9: The Owl House

The Owl House’s second season has been nothing short of amazing, and I cannot wait to see what Dana Terrace has in store for us in the future. Disney+

8: Carmen Sandiego

I’ve sung this show’s praises many times before, and the finale season was easily it’s best season, with quite a tearjerker of a final arc. Netflix Original.

7: Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir

Season 4 has been WHAM episode after WHAM episode. Honestly the best season yet. Still having scheduling issues though. First 3 Seasons on Netflix, fourth season on Disney+

6: Kid Cosmic and the Stones of Power

This show by Powerpuff Girls/Wander Over Yonder’s creator Craig McCracken is his first stab at arc based storytelling and he nails it. Netflix Original.

5: A Tale Dark and Grimm

Based on a series of books, themselves inspired by Grimm fairytales, this show was my sleeper hit this year. It is what it sounds like. Netflix Original.

4: Centaurworld

What would happen if a character from a serious show like Avatar wound up in a World like Care Bears? Find out here! Netflix Original.

3: Jurassic World: Camp Cretaceous

Seasons 3 &4 dropped this year, and I just love the direction that they went. The Long Run is one of the best episodes of anything I’ve ever seen. This show just keeps getting better, and I cannot wait for season 5. Netflix Original

2: Amphibia

This is the best show currently airing on Disney Channel, and I cannot recommend it enough. On Disney+

1: Maya and the Three

Discounting Young Justice Phantoms, nothing else I watched this year even came close to how good Maya and the Three was. Easily the best show I watched that qualified this year, without question. Watch it, you won’t be disappointed. Netflix Original.

#jurassic world camp cretaceous #camp cretaceous #maya and the three #star trek prodigy #young justice phantoms #hilda and the mountain king #amphibia #the owl house #centaurworld #miraculous ladybug #kid cosmic #carmen sandiego #a tale dark and grimm #Best Animation of 2021

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pyroflyer23 · 6 years ago

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I wonder what would happen if I told y’all that I self-ship. Cause I do. I have a list of F/Os who I love dearly. Y’all wanna see it? No? Too bad.

Romantic F/Os:

Starscream. (Transformers franchise)

Blizwing. (Transformers Animated)

Wreck-Gar. (Transformers Animated)

Robot Devil. (Futurama)

Nick (Left 4 Dead 2)

David (Left 4 Dead Screamer OC)

Merasmus (Team Fortress 2)

Sniper (Team Fortress 2)

Medic (Team Fortress 2)

Fritz Ludwig (Emesis Blue)

Christian Brutal Sniper (Freak Fortress 2)

George “Digger” Harkness/Captain Boomerang (DC Comics)

Oswald Cobblepot. (ANY VERSION OTHER THAN THE SKINNY ONES.) (DC Comics)

Jonathan Crane/Scarecrow, (Batman/DC Comics)

Jervis Tetch/Mad Hatter (Arkhamverse games)

Joker (Young Justice version and Injustice 2 version)

Arthur Fleck (Joker 2019)

The Amazing Mumbo/Mumbo Jumbo (Teen Titans)

Blade (Puppet Master)

Caine (The Amazing Digital Circus)

Erik Destler (The Phantom of the Oprea, 1989)

Inkubus (Inkubus, 2011)

The Doctor (Doctor Who)

Agent Smith (The Matrix)

Egon Spengler (Ghostbusters franchise)

Peter Venkman (Ghostbusters franchise)

Ron Alexander (Ghostbusters IDW comics)

Dr. Caligosto Loboto (Psychonauts)

Alastor (Hazbin Hotel)

Sir Pentious (Hazbin Hotel)

Vox (Hazbin Hotel)

Father/Benedict Uno (Codename Kids Next Door)

Lou Pottingsworth III/The Toiletnator. (KND)

Jack O'lantern. (Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy)

Dr. 0/Zero (Fallout New Vegas: Old World Blues)

Stu Macher/Ghostface (Scream 1996

Johann Kraus (Hellboy franchise)

Demongo. (Samurai Jack)

Scaramouch the merciless. (Samurai Jack)

Jack Frost (The Santa Clause franchise)

Snow Miser (Rankin/Bass specials)

Springtrap (Goes by “Spring”) (FNAFB and FNAF world cannon mix)

Foxy (FNAF/FNAFB cannon)

Dr. Insano (Atop the Fourth Wall/The spoony experiment)

Captain Buggy! (One Piece)

Soul King Brook (One Piece)

Sir Crocodile (One Piece)

Ryuma (One Piece)

Señor Diablo (JTHM)

Richard (Looking For Group)

The Terror (The Tick 2017)

Guerrero (Human Target 2010)

Willie Loomis (Dark Shadows 2012)

Pyramid Head (Silent Hill)

Albert Wesker (Resident Evil)

AM (I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream)

Herbert West (Re-Animator)

HP Hatecraft (Scooby-Doo: Mystery Incorporated)

Captain James Hook. (Peter Pan. I like the cartoon version)

The Mask/Stanley Ipkiss (The Mask movie and animated series)

Kowalski (Penguins of Madagascar)

Murdoc Niccals (Gorillaz)

The Spine (Steam Powered Giraffe)

Lore (Star Trek TNG)

Thaddeus “Rusty” Venture (The Venture Bros)

Zed Blanco (Borderlands)

Ned Blanco (Borderlands)

Giovanni (Pokemon) (It’s complicated.)

Lex Luthor (Justice Leauge Action)

Rorschach (Watchmen)

Dr. Ian Malcom (Jurassic Park)

Eckert (EleTRONica) (It’s a former Disneyland park show)

Spiderman Noir/Peter Parker (Into The Spiderverse)

Ghost Rider/Johnny Blaze (Marvel, 2007 movie)

Papyrus (Most of the Papyruses) (Undertale and it's AUs.)

Gaster (Undertale)

Spamton G Spamton (Deltarune)

Professor Membrane (Invader Zim) (I liked him before the movie. It just reminded me.)

Wade Willson/Deadpool (Marvel) (Both dating and friends with benefits depending on the day)

Cell (Dragon Ball franchise)

Jeice (Dragon Ball Z Abridged)

Skeletor (He-Man)

Cobra Commander (G.I. Joe)

Skullmageddon (Double Dragon Neon)

Remus Sanders (Sanders Sides)

Hades (Disney’s Hercules)

Platonic F/Os:

Jervis Tetch /Mad Hatter (Batman the animated series)

Grim (Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy)

Nergal (Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy) (Friends with benefits type)

Reg Barclay. (Star Trek TNG)

Ray Stanz, Winston Zeddamore, Rookie (Ghostbusters franchise)

The Scooby gang (Scooby-Doo franchise)

Toulon’s Puppets (Puppet Master)

Bubba Sawyer (Texas Chainsaw Massacre)

Chop Top Sawyer (Texas Chainsaw Massacre)

Slimer (Ghostbusters franchise)

Q (Star Trek) (IDK but you could put Discord from MLP on here as well. I like them both for the same reason.)

Jervis Tetch (DC Comics/Batman the animated series.)

The Eds (Ed Edd n Eddy.) (Childhood friends type.)

Rrazputin Aquato (Psychonauts)

Milla Vodello (Psychonauts)

Sasha Nein (Psychonauts)

Morceau Oleander (Psychonauts)

Stolas Goitia (Helluva Boss)

Hazbin Hotel staff (Vaggie, Angel Dust, Husk, Charlie, Nifty) (Hazbin Hotel)

Sir Pentious (Hazbin Hotel)

Guzma (Pokemon) (He is friend shaped.)

Sans (Undertale and it’s AUs.)

The robots and Water Workers (Save The Spine) (Steam Powered Giraffe)

All of the Straw hat crew (cept Brook cause we’re dating) (One Piece)

All the Sanders sides save Remus and Deceit. (Deceit might become platonic more we learn about him.)

Gnarl (Overlord games) (Leader and advisor type relationship.)

The Minions (Overlord games) (One-sided devotion on their end. I hold very little attachment to the majority besides appreciation.)

Familial F/Os:

Jack Skellington (The Nightmare Before Christmas) (Big brother)

Mad Mod. (Teen Titans) (Father)

Master Splinter (TMNT franchise) (Father)

All the Ninja Turtles. (TMNT franchise) (Brothers)

Freddy Kruger (A Nightmare on Elm Street franchise) (Uncle)

Lord Fathom. (Jake and the Neverland Pirates) (Father)

Brewster (Animal Crossing) (Father)

Mad Mod (Teen Titans) (Father)

Bill and Mandy (Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy) (I just kinda adopted them.)

Nergal Jr. (Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy) (Adopted nephew)

Irwin (Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy) (Son) I'm not as attached to Irwin as I am to the others but he's still my son and I love him.

Nigel Uno/Numbah One (Codename Kid Next Door) (Nephew)

Delightful Children From Down The Lane (Codename Kids Next Door) (Children)

Webber (Don’t Starve) (Son)

Hank and Dean Venture (Venture Bros) (Sons)

Bowser Jr. (Mario) (Son)

Heat Miser and the rest of the Miser family (Rankin/Bass specials) (family in-laws)

Serena (Pokemon) (Daughter)

Silver (Pokemon) (Son)

Yellow (Pokemon) (Daughter)

Toriel (Undertale and it’s AUs) (Mom)

Thor (Marvel) (Brother-in-law)

Charles (Looking for Group) (Adopted son)

Dib Membrane (Invader Zim) (Son)

Gaz Membrane (Invader Zim) (Daughter)

Zim (Invader Zim) (Adopted son)

Shin Godzilla (Godzilla franchise) (Adopted child)

Pet F/Os:

Sparkles (Pikachu) (Pokemon)

Rex (Quagsire) (Pokemon)

Richard (Houndoom) (Pokemon)

Froggy (Greninja) (Pokemon)

Zigzig (Zigzagoon) (Pokemon)

Fifi (Xenomorph, Runner type) (Alein franchise)

Sparky (Licker B) (Resident Evil)

#self shipping #self shipping community #fictional other #my f/os #romantic f/os #familial f/os #platonic f/os #f/o list #self ship list #i ain't tagging all of them #please don't hate me #selfship #more to be added #self ship #mary talks about things

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