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"how could you not have known? you had to. you didn't even think to warn me!" was carmen being a major hypocrite? of course. she hadn't told iris about her own date. but really, iris should already know that was just for tonight. this was different. iris promised her that she'd be finally dumping her fake boyfriend and they could work towards coming out together. and now that had fallen apart in a matter of minutes. "sure, we can get through tonight. but i hope you and your . . . boyfriend stay away from me," carmen says, speaking each harsh word with a bright smile on her lips. she was absolutely furious and she couldn't even stand to look at iris right now. "i'm serious, iris. i don't want to have to do something i'll regret later."
iris wasn't thrilled with the fact that she was still 'dating' her 'boyfriend.' her management had pushed for at least until after the premier of her new movie that they would have to stay together before a fallout even though she had told carmen something different. the two of them hadn't been in the same room together, and she just hoped that everything would go smoothly. as the two of them walked the red carpet together, the last thing she wanted to do was look over at carmen even though that was much easier said than done. the two of them had a moment alone and as she plastered a smile on her face, she got close to her and tilted her head a bit at her. "because i didn't know he was going to be here." she said through her teeth as she moved a little closer to her. "trust me, i didn't want him to be here either but somehow he's sticking around until after this." she could a bit of tension between the two and the last thing she wanted was for something to happen between them, or eve carmen and her 'boyfriend'. "can we just get through tonight please?"
#â thread â carmen alvarez.#heroexxs#sameeeee#is carmen being a huge hypocrite? yes#but we wouldn't have the drama if she wasn't lmao
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Play That Funky Music, Skate Boy: A Guide to Selecting Music for Your Fics
Hello YoI Friends, Fans, and Ficcers! We have teamed up to help you overcome the roadblock in your fic writing process known as music selection. You want Victor and Yuuri to paint their feelings all over the ice, but you also want your fic to be realistic. You might be sitting at your computer wondering, is it this frustrating for real life skaters to choose their music? (Yes. The answer, is yes.) But we are here to help!
Who are you people? Who exactly is âwe?â And why are you qualified to make this post?
We are PoetSnoreate and LittleLostStar. Poet Snoreate runs the SpiceCapades (aka this blog), your destination for all the info you need to write a more accurate skating fic or, if you just want to know more about figure skating. A former competitive skater and sister to a current skating coach (codename: Toepick), PoetSnoreate grew up in and around the sport of figure skating.
LittleLostStar is the author of fan-favorite story Setting Sun and ten other Yuri on Ice fic gems, including the new fantasy AU We are Wanderers Still. A human treasury of music genres, styles, and artists, she incorporates her knowledge into her fics and generously helps other authors in their search for the perfect piece to write to or, in this case, write about!
Both of us are friendly and you can stop on by our blogs to follow us and say hi!
Note: PoetSnoreate wrote this intro. And every word of it is true.
Letâs delve into the hows, whys, doâs, and donâts of music selection under the jump!
Section 0.1: (Iâve had) the time of my life, +/- 10 seconds
Programs have a time limit. If you exceed this time limit, you will be penalized, and eventually asked to leave the ice. The time limits are as follows:
Menâs/Ladies Short Program: 2:50 Maximum.
Menâs Freeskate: 4:30 (+/- 10 seconds)
Ladiesâ Freeskate: 4:00 minutes (+/- 10 seconds)
Most of the time, especially with classical music, the piece will have been edited down to fit these time constraints. You do not have to personally edit your chosen piece for the sake of your fanfic. Please trust LittleLostStar on this. She spent four hours fretting over how to cut up Tchaikovskyâs âSlavic Marchâ before her beta editor stepped in to shut down that malarkey.
Section 0.2: Slow. Now Fast. Now Faster! Slow Again. Fast Again! Oh my god faster! Whew. (or: Your routine needs structure) (or or: This is not quite what they had in mind when they told Chris to practice the rhythm method)
Music is carefully selected based on the program for which it is being used. Short programs are often skated to more uptempo music, because it is easier to sustain high energy for a shorter program. Freeskates are often performed to slower pieces.
You will see variations in mood/tempo in both programs. Short programs often follow this structure: fast music, slow music, fast music, and into a big finish! Free programs often follow the opposite: slow beginning, big middle, heart-wrenching (or uplifting) slow ending to a moving crescendo! These are typical structures, but not a rule, per say. Skaters have different strengths, weaknesses and their programs will be tailored to what they can do best.
Section 0.3: Sing, Sing, Sing! (Or not to Sing, Sing, Sing...No, seriously donât use this piece)
In the old days of skating, only instrumental music could be used, which is why skating is often associated with classical music. Then, the ISU deemed that music with vocals would acceptable, so long as the vocals were acting like an instrument. Think of your favorite film score in which a choir âOoohsâ and âAaaahhâsâ dramatically during the big climactic scene. Thatâs what weâre talking about.
When Ice Dancing became really exciting in recent years, the ISU moved to allow Ice Dancers to use music with lyrics. After a few years of this, they finally capitulated and allowed skaters across all disciplines to use music with vocals. So now, anything goes (including the score to Anything Goes!) within reason, that is.
This means no music with explicit lyrics. I canât find out if this is a set rule, but no one has pushed this envelope and I donât think anyone will for a while. Iâm sure if you choose your favorite rap song, judges will frown upon your choice (unless itâs from Hamilton. Everyone loves Hamilton, and so they should). A pair team from France used the 50 Shades of Grey soundtrack, but none of the songs they chose were graphic or used âbadâ language.
Now, what sorts of songs should you pick, and from which genres?
Section 1: Classical (or: You have no fucking excuse to use Swan Lake for the billionth time)
Because skaters could only use instrumental songs for so long, certain pieces of music have become so ingrained in the sport that theyâre impossible to get rid of, like that creepy uncle at a family reunion, only with powdered wigs. Skaters have lots of terms for these pieces: âclassicsâ (if you like them), âOld Warhorsesâ (if youâve been around awhile, just like them), or, if youâre Toepick, âSkate Bashersâ because they make you want to bash your head in with the nearest skate after hearing the same piece of music for the umpteenth time at a competition. Note: this is a little hypocritical, as Toepick has, in fact, used two of the aforementioned âSkate Bashersâ in her career.
I prefer to describe these overused pieces as âBoomerangsâ because they cycle back. Generally, every season youâll see a few skaters performing differently choreographed programs to the same overused piece. Or, there was that one year where six different skaters in the Junior Ladiesâ bracket were all doing Malaguena.
Hereâs a short list of overused classical music: Swan Lake, Carmen, Malaguena, Claire de Lune, Romeo and Juliet (both versions), Nessun Dorma, Firebird, Sing, Sing, Sing! Tosca, Scheherazade. Rhapsody in Blue, that one piano concerto by Rachmaninoff
Now, what do Swan Lake, Carmen, Claire de Lune, Romeo and Juliet, Nessun Dorma, and Rachmaninoff have in common, besides overuse? Theyâre all from the Romantic Era of classical music. To quote from Wikipedia: âIn the Romantic period, music became more expressive and emotional, expanding to encompass literary, artistic, and philosophical themes.â If youâve heard classical music thatâs big and emotional and full of feelings, itâs probably Romantic. Beethoven is an excellent benchmark to show the evolution between the rigid, mathematical High Classical era and the more fluid Romantic era, since his career spanned both. Contrast the first movement of his first symphony, which is tight and precise (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2VKpV9im8g) with the slow build and huge emotional swells of the second movement of Symphony no 7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgHxmAsINDk .
Romantic Era music is popular for a reason; itâs emotional, varied in tempo, and almost always stunningly beautiful. And the nice thing about it is that there are dozens of Romantic composers, including Chopin, Brahms, Dvorak, Tchaikovsky, and many many more. You can start with some of the big names and try to find their lesser-known pieces, or fall down a Spotify Related Artists rabbit hole and find someone entirely new. And if youâre not sure at all where to start, here are a  few of LittleLostStarâs suggestions:
Chopin, Piano Concerto no. 1, II. Romanze â Larghetto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIackkOX2BU
Dvorak's Symphony no. 9, second movement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOX15agZ3-0
Smetana's "Ma Vlast": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lvvjsg8_xI
pretty much any portion of Brahms' Piano Concerto No. 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKX0ef1TZWA
Shostakovitchâs piano concerto No 2, second movement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHpmHhi1Rxk
Debussy's "Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWmUfIhAukU
Ralph Vaughan Williams' "Fantasia on a Theme for Thomas Tallis": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIhZbvlCjY0
Section 2: Movie scores which are not âThe Missionâ
Movie scores are amazing, and people donât always give them enough credit. While there are certainly more than a few films with non-memorable scores (cough EVERY MARVEL MOVIE cough), think of all the films whose music has permeated our culture: Star Wars, Jaws, basically anything by John Williams. After classical music, film scores are an easy place to find emotional music for skating, but there are some pieces--such as âGabrielâs Oboeâ from The Mission--which are also far too overused.
There are movie scores such as Lord of the Rings, Pirates of the Caribbean, and Mask of Zorro which were only popular in the skating community for a short time. While they saw overuse during this period, they never quite made Skate Basher status and are fun and refreshing when they resurface with a bright-faced new skater. Others, like the soundtrack to Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves and the 1960âs Romeo and Juliet theme have produced some of the coolest programs known to skating history. But those programs inspired other programs, which inspired other programs, and thus have relegated themselves to the ranks of the overused.
If youâre interested in going for the big emotional swells via cinema, here are a few options:
The one piano piece everyone adores from Amelie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hprOTiv3fU
âTransformationâ from Beauty and the Beast (1991)*: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH9RTuaUL8k
âThe Heart Asks Pleasure Firstâ by Michael Nyman from The Piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsQBKr_x-P4
From John Powellâs stunning How to Train Your Dragon score: either âTest Driveâ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5N3q68e7OQ) or âComing Back Aroundâ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbbsCTafRNw ). The latter, in particular, has a really great buildup that would be suited for Yuuriâs stamina, since it gets very energetic right at the end.
âDefine Dancingâ from the Wall-e score: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-7LIojfezw
âTransformationâ by the Bulgarian Womenâs Choir from Brother Bear, that Disney movie you donât remember: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S9csXngPNg
And if youâre feeling daring:
Junkie XLâs score for Mad Max: Fury Road was a furiously energetic jolt of adrenaline. A song like âBrothers in Armsâ would be a very bold choice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xllG3fSUAOw
The Chemical Brothers scored a frankly excellent film called Hanna from 2011, and it has no shortage of bizarrely awesome electro songs, but âContainer Parkâ is the best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBmwcuLa1as
*LittleLostStar has no idea why we suddenly need to specify the year of this filmâs release because there has never ever been another version of the best Disney film ever made and we neednât speak of this matter again and also this is her favourite film of all time, so if you use âTransformationâ, please let her know, because sheâs probably going to read your fic and squee.
Section 2.5: What about Broadway tho?!
Donât worry, fam, we gotchu.
As a current (not-so) starving actor (PoetSnoreate) and a former theater kid who once had dreams of being the next Idina Menzel (LittleLostStar) we would be remiss if we did not include the third most popular source of music for skating--BROADWAY!
Before lyrics were allowed, the sweeping scores to classic shows were brought to life on the ice by talented skaters. Sometimes so much so (in the case of West Side Story) that they became Skate Bashers. Rogers and Hammerstein were also a popular choice, The King and I and South Pacific were/have been fairly popular, but have yet to reach Skate Basher status. Other popular musicals that are on their way to becoming Skate Bashers include Phantom of the Opera and Les Miserables...and letâs face it, if we have to see someone skate to âBring Him Homeâ one more time, weâre going to be le miserable.
(Get it?! Le miserable? Is this thing on? *tap tap*)
Here are some fun options from people who are not Andrew Lloyd Webber:
âYou Canât Stop the Beatâ from Hairspray (note: the linked version here is from the 2007 film, which absolutely blew the Broadway version out of the water in my opinion): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjOXwuBQT1o
âKing of New Yorkâ from the film Newsies (or the Broadway remake): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmPnz4g9HGQ. It is an excellent replacement for your more swing-adjacent Skate Bashers like âRhapsody in Blueâ
And while weâre at it, stop using âSing sing singâ and use the finale from Chicago instead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luef1H24hU8
Print off a list of the major songs from Wicked (everything over two and a half minutes that doesnât include the Wizard, because all his songs are the worst). Pin it to the wall and stand a few feet back. Throw a dart. Congratulations, youâve got a piece from Wicked. They basically all work.
While weâre on Stephen Schwartz, selections from Hunchback of Notre Dame would be super baller: âBells of Notre Dameâ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4COfl8DMB8) and âHeavenâs Light/Hellfireâ for some real AF energy contrasts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eODy_sHpjaQ
âA Piece of Skyâ by Barbra Streisand, from Yentl. Ask your parents, kids. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s8NpVhwgnA
Section 3: Yes, you can use modern songs. No, Tswift probably wonât let you use hers.
While programs that are more âtraditionalâ still tend to score better, more and more skaters are making bolder music choices; theyâre picking older pop hits, songs from classic singers, and even current chart toppers for their programs. This most recent season featured programs to 1980s classics like âSweet Dreams Are Made of Thisâ by the Eurythmics and âPressureâ by Queen and David Bowie. Elvis may have left the building, but he showed up at the ice rink. Electro Swing is another popular choice; Caro Emerald crooned her way across several disciplines to create some interesting programs with the genre. Currently, most skaters will only select modern music for one program and keep the other in the more traditional vein.
Wacky, wild, and fun music (including disco and techno) tends to remain the purview of the Exhibition...along with the best choreography. Skaters every now and again will insist on skating their exhibitions to overused songs such as âFields of Gold,â âArms of an Angelâ; but most of the time, the exhibition is where we get unforgettable programs like the infamous âSex Bomb.â And the time Joe Johnson skated with a slice of pizza on his head.
Skaters donât personally have to pay copyright to use their music, but they do have to turn in the names, titles, and composers of their pieces ahead of the season, so that rights can be secured by arenas (in their home country) and then by their Federations/other arenas where theyâll be competing. Itâs a very convoluted process, and we donât know the exact details of it (sorry). However, this is why you often donât see skaters skating to the new big thing, because they have to be ready ahead of time with their selections, and also because programs take time to prepare and perfect.
While LittleLostStar was all set to provide a list of suggestions, the truth of the matter is that if you think a song will work, itâll probably work! There are videos out there of routines set to âUmbrellaâ by Rihanna, âCheap Thrillsâ by Sia, and âHand Clapâ by Fitz and the Tantrums. Johnny Weirâs routine to Lady Gagaâs âBad Romanceâ famously inspired Yurioâs ice slide heard âround the fandom in the âWelcome to the Madnessâ EX. So, really, go wild.
...Okay, she canât help herself, here are some suggestions:
âParadiseâ by Coldplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G4isv_Fylg
...okay, and also âFix Youâ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4V3Mo61fJM
âAll These Things That Iâve Doneâ by The Killers. Bonus points if you perform it in a blood-stained shirt and camouflage pants, and double bonus points if itâs a pair skate with someone dressed in a sexy nurseâs outfit. Sextuple billion bonus points if you understand that reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZTpLvsYYHw
âSome Nightsâ by fun., which is bombastic and wonderful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQkBeOisNM0
A classic for a reason. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFWDGTVYqE8
âI Am Chemistryâ by Yeasayer is one of the best songs ever, with one of the goddamn weirdest music videos ever, and would make a really interesting FS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XzqCUbiPc4
The Final Movement
We hope youâve enjoyed our handy and comprehensive guide to choosing the music for your YoI fic.Â
As always, our asks are open!Â
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