#intracommunity

[mossadspypigeon]

i’ve been seeing this take around recently and i have a few things to say bc this made me laughhhh.

1. please LMAO. converts have completed the process. most of us are calling out CONVERSION STUDENTS who are problematic and entering a space with bad intentions, and YES that is a problem right now. gaslighting isn’t a good look.

and yeah there are people who completed the process who have extremely fucked opinions and maybe things that harm our community should be talked about. hmmmm

2. the majority of people here calling this out are queer ourselves so this is giving “the evol jewz are being mean to me because __.” insert random stupid ass reason. no, maybe have some self awareness? i get messages from jews across judaism: actual converts who have COMPLETED THE CONVERSION PROCESS (and dont deserve to get dragged down by idiots), reform jews, masorti, orthodox, even recon who call this out and say it’s a problem. plenty of people have posted about it who are queer, trans, gnc, etc. in fact the MAJORITY who have said something have been queer, including myself, so no, this is not about your sexuality or your gender. you’re just an asshole. that transcends identities lmao

idgaf what sexuality or gender you identify as or are, whatever. if you cause harm to my community, aka the jews, that behavior will be called out. in fact, given what the broader LBGTQIA+ community has been doing to jews in their midst for years now, like maybe shut the fuck up. (maybe call that out? ever? no? okay). that’s a whole other discussion though.

anyway lmao. the manipulation tactics are strong here.

people like:

*instead of taking responsibility for ANYTHING EVER.

[baeddelilluminati]

theyfab isn't a slur, people, its an intracomminity term thats use is disputed wrt its usefulness in describing people/trends and types of people transfeminine people get their lives ruined by

[arugula2048]

ik you prob wrote abt this ages ago but I wanted to say I appreciate your additions abt the 'almond mom' discussion. I saw it came from a child model almost fainting and the mother advising her to eat a couple of almonds chewed very slowly. So literally from eating disoreded mom harming and abusing child by purposefully malnourishing them. Ofc over time ppl posted more ambiguous things but what if the er mom was asked to comfort the child and 'did her steps' imstead? Or the mom eating salad (1/2

2/2 and the family eating heavier meals. Oftentimes the mom is visibly upset with the children so maybe they are 'breaking the cycle' by eating satisfying food after being told not to for many years? Like I agree we must not forget ppl acting 'strange' w food incl moms are victims of society which promotes disordered eating. But to actively push that on your child is cruel. And many ppl are not mentioning how strange their mom is but rather how it results in treating them, shamimg, policing them

I feel you, I could understand if the 'pacing bc she's worried and not ED' interpretation if it was one of many used in the analyses, but it irked me when so many bloggers just ran with that alone. Not very empathetic to the child, gyns, who in the post example was in the fucking ER, implying she wanted comfort but her mother prioritized her own body image instead... It's so funny (not funny) how they breezed past that part and was like "this bitter ungrateful child!! of course she's definitely lying about her mom to mock her"

It's an interesting analysis to focus fully and only on the 'almond mothers' in that post. But then to say that's the only way to see it and say that children are responsible for their mothers' healing is repulsive. I can't tell if that conclusion came from temporary tunnel vision, or if they never had a bad relationship with their mother, or if they no longer see themselves in the child now that they're adults, or if they're partly speaking from unresolved issues and believe that fixing their mothers will fix them too. They would've betrayed their younger selves just like their mothers did lol.

Not to mention, like you said, mothers are grown women and had decades to reflect on their experiences and illnesses to decide how they'd raise their daughters. As an adult and as a parent, they had that responsibility to step up for their children lol. The audacity of the ~approach your mother with a feminist mindset to break entire generational cycles of misogyny and EDs~ statement is unbelievable. To put that work on children? So the mothers shouldn't need to do anything? Why don't we start smaller with something kids can do?

I think that post got like that because of the whole "mother discourse" that had people acting as if someone said 'mothers should be officially recognized as a subhuman class' instead of 'I prioritize girls because they're the common denominator demographic of all women'. Cue the overcompensation and almost victim-blaming kids who were coached to get EDs. They seriously looked at a kid in the ER and blame her for her mom being fucked up, no one in that post contested that first reply. Yikes, but that's the internet, I guess.

Thank you for the message, I'm glad we felt seen by each other. Have a good day, anon!

[our-queer-experience]

i dont care about validity i care about my civil rights

[baeddelilluminati]

women who talk about the men they share a community with deserve the political recourse to talk about those men and not be limited to only talking about men in general

[nixisverytired]

Can we take a moment to think about the younger trans men and mascs on tumblr right now?

I was a teenager when ace and transmed discourses were at their peaks, and I can’t exaggerate how badly it affected me then.

Now trans men are the latest target, and I’m terrified for trans kids.

It’s easy to say “intracommunity discourse is an online problem! Go talk to queer people irl!”, but people forget that so many kids and teenagers do not have safe or reliable access to IRL LGBT+ communities and support groups. For many, online spaces are the only option.

We need to make sure the younger members of our community are being heard, and block out the hateful voices with messages of support and encouragement. Things are bad enough for trans people right now, and it's easy to forget that trans minors are often the ones suffering the most.

To any younger trans men or transmasculine people reading this:

The hate you are experiencing isn’t normal, it hasn’t always been like this, and it won’t always be this way. It is bleeding out from a small, miserable group of self-absorbed jerks.

Don’t feel obligated to call them out, don’t feel like you have to interact with these people. Please don’t doomscroll through discourse tags; it will make you feel like everyone is out to get you.

If you want to speak up for your community, that’s fine, but please take a break if you feel like your mental health is worsening. Block anybody who so much as breathes rudely in your direction.

You’re just as trans as the rest of us. You are welcome here.

Oh, and if you want to seek out external resources and groups, PFLAG helped me a lot when I was younger. It is an American-based organization, however, so if anyone has recommendations for those living outside of the US, please let me know in the reblogs!

[wtchgrrl]

people will insist that they support intersex people yet will constantly bitch about how “ugly” the intersex flag is (along with the intersex-inclusive progress flag), call IGM survivors “cis people getting treatments that trans people are denied”, get mad at us for using terms “the wrong way”, get mad at us for using our own terms because they’re “too confusing” and “don’t make sense”, speak on our behalf when it comes to our inclusion, only talk about us when it’s convenient, ignore intersexism in the queer community, ignore our assault and suicide statistics, send us threats of violence when we’re “too mean”, and get angry at us for pointing out that these behaviors are, in fact, not okay

[terminated-baeddel9]

gave up on the blog now that she's back or frustrated with the discourse or both?

hi feb 11th anon

yeah i did get kinda disillusioned with this blog but also jez came back to tumblr so i was like, what ever x2. but she's been terminated again. she wasnt stiring shit so i dont know why. i worry that people hold grudges against people for when they behave poorly while under immense levels of mental distress and then go out of their way to try fuck that person over, even if they've expressed remorse or apologised etc for their shitty behavior and haven't been repeating it

out community is so overzelous with punishment for any perceived transgressions or rudeness. we cannibalise eachother and its a fucking miserable state of affairs.

[baeddelilluminati]

the transandro fraternity is a collection of loosely affiliated transmasculine supremacist clans that have a small intelligentsia whom are linked to online twef/terf propaganda organising;

its primary objective is to maintain the logic of biological essentialism within transmasculine discourse through the formation of a deceptive lexicon that retains membership ignorance (of its logical implications) through a mythologising of transfeminism, through a sort of double-think, as being terfism.

[thoughtthot]

Genuinely do not understand why non transmascs have so much fucking audacity to speak on OUR experiences as if youve lived them. NO the ONE transmasc friend you have doesnt give you authority to speak on our lived experiences. Especially if theyre white. I keep seeing this phenomenon where someone will say something objectively untrue to generalize the experiences of trans men and mascs and then back it up with the experience and of their one white trans friend and then completely ignore the experience of DOZENS of transmascs in the replies. If youre arguing about any supposed “privilege” we have and you prop up the two white self-identified ‘TME’s’ who chimed in to agree with you while simultaneously ignoring dozens to HUNDREDS of other transmascs (ESPECIALLY tmoc) trying to tell you about their experiences… idk how to tell you that youre just a racist bigot.

[ichliebemeinkissen]

*psychically telling everyone this* Not every post you make about generalized transandrophobia has to specifically mention trans women do that.. thanks

[aromichaelshelley]

can't say i love the aro community becoming increasingly hostile to aroaces, especially when a lot of us have already been alienated from the ace community for the exact same reason. i don't like the conflation of asexuality and aromanticism either, but some people seem to be getting reallll comfortable with casual acephobia. like. man just say you hate ace people, you're not special

[starryroe]

The amount of times I've been told from a transmasc they try not to engage in a specific kink in online spaces out of fear of getting called out and harassed endlessly genuinely breaks my heart.

The amount of transmascs who like transfems I have talked to who have confided in me that they have actually so many harder kinks than they let on because they don't want to be wrongly accused of being transmisogynistic is staggering.

This is going on my main and idc I'm going to fully say it, the amount of trans guys I, a trans woman with a massive misogyny kink, had to convince that it was okay and allowed for them to reciprocate with enjoyment towards some of my kinks, is insanely high.

And it seems like no one cares. It seems like no one gives a shit when transmascs get harassed for kinks. Like don't get me wrong, many people don't give a shit for trans women that this happens to either. But it seems like people don't even think that it's a possibility that it could happen to other people.

No one should have their kinks examined and pulled apart and outed for the whole world to see. Everyone should be allowed to write whatever kind of smut and porn they want. And yet so many transmascs are scared, are terrified, of doing so.

And here I'll be honest, it hurts a little bit for selfish reasons as well- so many of these people could have been writing beautiful smut that I would have loved for years, but before meeting me they were too scared to even admit things to themselves. It's fucked y'all. Make trans people feel safe in exploring kink. Make any people in general safe.

[thoughtthot]

Hi everyone! I made a blog for transmascs to talk about their issues :) but if you give a name to those issues >:(( dont interact I dont like you [antisemetic term]s!! If you belong to [a part of the transmasc community that’s overwhelmingly made up of people of color] youre not welcome here >:((

[gingerswagfreckles]

I thought other Jews understood that NYC has been in a state of absolute emergency (I mean smashed windows, building takeovers, pro Hamas graffiti on EVERY block, young people walking around in full Hamas gear, constant 24/7 pro Hamas protests with crowds chanting oh Hamas we love you and we love your rockets too, assaults, kidnappings, stabbings, murders) for 17 months straight and no one has done ANYTHING about it because they're so scared of the Hamas loving nuts that they're willing to completely abandon Jews. I thought we were on the same page about how the Manhattan DA dropping all charges against the pro Hamas mobs who took over Columbia for weeks and kidnapped a janitor is absurd? I thought we were on the same page that the Biden administration's response to the mass wave of antisemitic civil rights violations happening on college campuses nationwide was a joke? And we voted for him not because he did such a good job of protecting Jews from Hamas loving nuts but because he's better than Trump for ten million other reasons?

I thought we were on the same page about this!! Clearly I was wrong?? Or, maybe worse, people are now retroactively changing their opinion on the state of emergency for Jews in NYC specifically because they don't want Trump to get a political win out of it? And they'd rather Jews in NYC continue to get absolutely mobbed by antisemitic terrorist support every time we go outside than have the uncomfortable conversation about the fact that the Democratic party should have been cracking down on this a year and a half ago and didn't because they didn't want to lose the leftist antisemite vote, which they lost anyway?

What thee actual fuck lol!

[notaplaceofhonour]

this “lol Hamasniks have dyed/‘weird’ hair” thing is a talking point/stereotype I keep seeing from Israelis, and I would respectfully ask that y’all move on from it.

I have no idea if this is also the case in Israel (tho judging from photos/video of Tel Aviv Pride I’ve seen, it’s way less common there than here, so I’m giving the benefit of the doubt) and I can’t speak for other countries, but here in America, colorful or atypical hair is an incredibly common form of queer “flagging”—essentially, non-verbally signaling to other queer people that we are also queer. the “weird” (i.e., non-conforming) hairstyles may also be as a part of a person’s gender expression.

someone with these styles may not necessarily be queer, they may just be alt. but alternative subcultures are often drawing from queer styles as a way of bucking gender norms, and many alternative sub cultures are deeply tied to the queer community as a result.

the prevalence of colorful & non-conforming hairstyles at these protests is due to the prevalence of queer people & alternative subcultures in leftwing spaces, because those are the spaces that are not actively hostile towards us for being queer. so when you rag on Hamasniks for having undercuts & colorful hair & piercings, you’re picking on them for looking visibly queer.

there are a thousand and one things to laugh at Hamasniks about that you could focus on instead. choosing to take potshots at queer & alt hairstyles just makes you sound like an asshole. so please just leave that one on the cutting room floor