#innocence of sinners
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Choi Daeho/???
Model:Kim Heechul
Ethnicity:Korean
Gender:Male
Age:35
Height:5'9
Sexuality:Bisexual
Occupation:Actor/Musician
Image Songs:1.You're Gonna Go Far Kid by The Offspring(2.Burn The Floor by Super Junior)
Character Tropes:Anti-Hero,Broken Bird,Deadpan Snarker,Knight In Sour Armor,Non-Action Guy,Stepford Snarker
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hate to see you go, but love to watch you leave
#adcedit#saintxedit#saint x#alycia debnam carey#mine: saint x#mine#listen. L I S T E N. there's no way for me to post this and act innocent#i was looking okay? and not respectfully either. i was looking VERY disrespectfully. like a whore. like a sinner.#i want to [grabby hands]#who said that?
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cocaine in the blood surprise real fear of daniil medvedev
#obviously i have massively taken this out of context DJJSJEJSJW#its from his r1 post match presser they asked him about jannik sinner doping scandal and he mentioned the real fear is if u do not know how#drug got in system like jannik knew so they were able to prove his innocence but if u do not have any idea how then u have no defence#and his example was cocaine in blood#which i found very amusing#daniil medvedev
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Have you read the 'day in the life' prequel comic where Alastor saved the random sheep demon?
I have 🥺 I adore it. It's such good insight into Alastor and his moral compass. Viv has said that Alastor is chaotic neutral aligned and lives by his own moral code, and hhhhhh I want to know more SOOOO bad.
Considering we're going to see more of his backstory in season 2, I really hope we get more examples of his moral code.
#i love that comic SO so much#its such a fun insight into his character#and what he does and does not do#we know he doesn't condone violence against woman!#love that!!!#also I want to know more about the Sinners who show up as animals like the sheep demon#like ones who look super innocent and soft#we've seen bunnies sheep and Alastor himself is a deer#lets see more woodland animals#asks#anon#anonymous#alastor
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WE'VE GOT OUR SWEET DOLL, MOLLY!!!
#Where's her second set of arms?#I always felt like Molly was the innocent one in Angel dust��s family#when she learns abt the sinners and redemption what if she goes down to hell to Look For Her Brothers#vivziepop#hazbin hotel#animation#hazbin molly#welcome to heaven#hazbin angel dust
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I wish Charlie was better written.
Of all the characters in Hazbin Hotel and Helluva boss, I think Charlie might be my most disappointing character and emblematic of alot of the problems I have with the show.
(My second most disappointing character would be Lucifer)
From the outset, Charlie SHOULD be a really good protagonist and an interesting character: the princess of hell, who grew up in a place surrounded by human evil and suffering, wants to make a positive change in her home by helping sinners redeem themselves from their sins and ending their eternity of suffering. Her naivete could be an advantage in her always seeing the good in someone, but also a flaw that needs to be addressed and corrected, as too much of it would cause her to make poor decisions.
But from the execution, Charlie in the show just comes of as a rich, airheaded nepo baby who never thinks things through and wants her "dream" to suceed just so she can win her parent's (mainly father's) love.
One of the big things I dislike about show Charlie is how childish and immature she is. She's 200 years old but comes across as being perpetually 15. It feels like she's just a "uwu pure girl" who needs to be coddled by other characters and can't stand up for herself.
Thing is I never had this problem with Pilot! Charlie. Pilot! Charlie is how I wish she was still written. She was naive yes, but she also felt more like a real, realistic person. She obviously didn't trust Alastor to help her but enforced her authority to make him help anyway, she stood up for herself against Katie Killjoy, and she just... felt powerful? Idk, Pilot Charlie just felt like she had her head on her shoulders. She felt like she went for more diplomatic solutions to problems out of a conscious choice to want to be better and uphold her morals, not "because it would be mean not too!" I don't think Pilot! Charlie would be so up in arms of Vaggie being an angel like series! Charlie was for some reason.
My big issue with Charlie is that as a main protagonist, she is very childish and her methods are ineffectual, but in the same breathe she's treated as if she doesn't need to change and her "methods" of redemption are the key to working.
Charlie in the show has a very childish understanding of what it means to redeem someone. Her big method of redeeming sinners boils down to "Not stealing, saying sorry, sharing circles, trustfalls" just basic summer camp activity stuff. She never gets to the root problem of redeeming sinners which involves actually engaging with the behavior that GOT THEM INTO HELL IN THE FIRST PLACE! She has never even once asked any of them what they did in life to get into hell. The simple question "How did you die?" opens up alot more doors for possible redemption than any of her "strategies" did in the show.
The thing is, this could've been a GOOD thing for her character. This childish manner of thinking of redemption could've been addressed as an actual flaw of hers to overcome. She could've learned to stop treating the sinners as children and learn to actually engage with them as people. Get into the root of their issues, ask them how they died and assess the behavior that got them into hell in order to help them change. But instead, Charlie's camp consoler solutions are said to be working just fine by Serpentious getting into heaven.
The big issue is that Charlie is never actually CHALLENGED or pushed back on as a character. She's not perfect but she's portrayed as such by the narrative. Any criticisms of her and her goals by other characters are seen as bad because of the characters who give them. And it's so disappointing because there SHOULD be. Charlie should get CONSTANT push back and resistance from her goal. She should be constantly having to asses her methods of redemption and whether her goal is even possible. Because it would make it all the more satisfying when she DOES succeed. Because her goal is a very good one for a protagonist to have.
But of course, this would also require Charlie to be actively engaging with more sinners other than just the main crew, but that's probably a topic for another time.
#hazbin hotel#helluvaverse#hazbin critical#hazbin criticism#charlie morningstar#charlie and how she's written is linked to alot of my problems I have with the both show's writing#I didn't get into everything wrong I had with her but this is a good summation of it#also the whole attitude of sinners being “innocent” and heaven being “the bad guys” is so asinine and completely ruins the premise#as well as ruining the complexity they want to do#but that's a topic for another time
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More elaboration on ep6, from this post
So I do think imma split ep6 into 2 parts. Jsut because I do want to go more into detail about heaven and sera
Cause it's clear Sera doesn't LIKE doing the extermination, but thinks it's necessary. I also wanna add some stuff into the trial
Lute asks why angle didn't get here in heaven, and charlie says that 'because he DID committed sins. I'm not denying that- but he's TRYING he's getting better- he's not perfect, but he's trying the best he can, and he deserves a second shot."
I wanna add in them challenging chalries pov more, cause I do think there are flaws in it, like. Not ever sinner should be redeemed. Not every sinner wants to be redeemed. And there are vile souls down in hell
Like, I'm sure not all are evil, and some are down there for small sins or, like, killing someone in self-defense. But there are absolutely vile people like Valentino down there that shouldn't be redeemed
And I also kidna wanna make that part of charlies character arc, realizing not everybody SHOULD be redeemed. Not everybody deserves a second chance.
And I wanna like, explore that more in the trial, it want it to focus on back and forths. And then when Sera is starting to seriously consider that 'hey, maybe this could work, we could try and examine souls again' Lute and Adam try to rig it in their favor
Exposing Vaggie, but at the same time what they did, helping Charlies point. And then exposing EMILY when that fails
And oh boy, is that a shit show! I think Sera would be too in shock to really do anything in the moment, and I do think Adam would kinda take advantage of that, like 'those people corrupted your sister and made her fall can we kill them? Pleaseeeee'
And I think he'd spat out a 'fine' just so he leaves her a lone to process it all. She 100% regrets giving him an okay later once she's processed it all, but it's too late by that point
Side note; a theory I have is that she was fed false information, maybe by Adam maybe by lillith, that Hell was planning an uprising. We'll, I have to see
#hazbin hotel#hazbin hotel au#hazbin hotel emily#hazbin hotel charlie#hazbin hotel vaggie#hazbin hotel adam#hazbin hotel lute#hazbin hotel sera#hazbins fallen au#i love sera as an older sister#i do love the angst potential betwen her and Emily and sometimes like to make her the 'bad guy' in aus caus eof it#but in all hoenstly seras just an older sister trying to run heaven and keeps its people. including her little sister. safe#it is CLEAR she doesnt like doing the exterminations from what we've seen of her. but allows them out of her duty to protect heaven/its peo#i also dont really blame her for doing it i mean. if sinners were supposedly uprising and tyring to destroy heaven wouldnt you do the same?#i mean. most people in hell are probably rapists. abusers. people who did things to KIDS#im sure there are some innocent people. people who killed in self-defense or stole to feed themselves and their families in hell#But I understand where shes coming from. Cause even if there are good people who did bad things in hell#the bad people who did horrible things still outweigh them
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*Me, listening to Bruno Is Orange* This too, is adamsapple-coded
#hazbin hotel#hazbin hotel fandom#adam#adam my beloved#hazbin hotel adam#adam hazbin hotel#ramblingovertootsierolls#hazbin adam#adam hazbin#lucifer morningstar#hazbin hotel lucifer#lucifer hazbin hotel#hazbin lucifer#lucifer hazbin#adamsapple#guitarduck#in the beginning it would be in eden and when it says “I bet he works for the government” it would be talking about lucifer#as he's an angel and technically works for the higher ups of heaven. the authority. the “government”#adam and lucifer would be having fun in eden and just being silly and innocent together#yknow lucifer pushes adam into the creek they laugh about it#luci teaches adam how to spell “adam” and adam writes it in the dirt. luci uses his golden magic to write “Lucifer” next to it(yellow line)#they dodge a prancing deer. they get some berries. they feed the “gray geese and the DUCKS” with the berries#then comes the apple incident. luci wants adam to calm down and stop panicking after biting the apple bc luci doesn't wanna get in trouble#that's the “everyone will yell- don't tell- my mother says ill go to hell” part(shortened because tag limit)#the more angry part after “and love me more than anyone” would fast foward to the big finale battle#now “i bet he works for the government” would be aimed towards ADAM since he works under sera(a higher authority) to kill sinners#haven't fully developed the idea but i want it to end with the whole “orange warms the stomach” thing having the forbidden fruit instead
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Eyyy if Lilith is in Heaven and let’s assume that she loves Charlie, what if her deal with Alastor has something to do with getting Charlie into Heaven??
#hazbin hotel#lilith#alastor#charlie morningstar#supposedly her and lucifer are (still?) madly in love#she’s shady shady#admittedly based on a lot of what ifs#and I don’t know how it’ll work#and maybe she never disclosed the full plan to alastor at all#but I would think charlie could get into heaven#I mean she’s not in hell through any decision she’s made#you could say amongst any of them she’s a true innocent#I mean going by sir pen#assuming this is true charlie would have to be killed to get into heaven#but while it’s proven to work for sinner mortals#well charlie isn’t exactly a sinner is she?#what if killing her as a hellspawn just erases her from existence?
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Eden/Jung Taeil/???
Model:Lee Jungshin
Ethnicity:Korean
Gender:Male
Age:Late 20's
Height:6'2
Sexuality:Gay/Demiromantic
Occupation:Unemployed/Box Boy
Image Songs:1.Smokey Eyes by Lincoln(2.In My Head by CNBLUE)
Character Tropes:(Unknown)
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every time i'm like "man i wish venom would stop sympathizing with cops..." i am reassured. venom goes "man we're on the same side!!" and then they try to shoot them and they go "well you were probably getting bribed anyway. pigs. get eaten idiot!!!!!"
#i don't want to harm any innocents but I DON'T SEE ANY INNOCENTS HERE!!#looney tunes bit where venom pulls out an innocence detector and it beeps like a metal detector until he points it at whoever he's fighting#'well! no innocence here! snacktime :D'#^ my vision#venomposting#venom#venom: sinner takes all
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Izumi Katsura, Knight and innocent sinner
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"Do you enjoy baked apples with cinnamon?"
⸺ ❝ Ha ha, I'd think myself a fool if I didn't enjoy a delicacy as rich and savory as a baked apple with cinnamon. ❞
#firstwcman#maybe he could invite her over for some ;] it'll be completely innocent and not at all pinning over her subtly#sinner questions.
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When an especially tasty morsel walks into your office...
♡ Some Sinner Corwin//Doc Overlord Stuff ♡
[[ TW: Written Gore and Horror involving Teeth and Fungi ]]
When a person runs out of teeth to give Corwin in exchange for favours, if they refuse to give away their jaw, or if they ask for favours exceeding any price they might be able to cover... Corwin will, in time, claim their body and soul for himself. Since you'd already be all out of teeth, the good doctor will happily take out his own extra teeth and put them into your mouth to give you a brand new smile. However the teeth of the tooth demon will sprout roots into your gums, burrowing themselves in and quickly taking over your body, all while sprouting the same pretty fungi in your hair that adorn the doctor as well.
From that point on, you will be... elated. Always laughing and giggling just like your new master! You will be Beautiful, you'll feel Fulfilled and Happy, and you'll be Obedient, because you'll be high every single day of your life... all while the fungi is piloting your body.
Now, let's help some more sinners!
#up and down again { sinner verse }#the doctor will see you now { corwin — art }#innocence you'll feign — just present you're not insane { corwin }
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Do you even understand what Chiori was to Morisu
#.txt#decagon house#mansion murders/yakata series#she was the love of his life and his lifeline and symbolized everything that was good to him#he believed so earnestly that she was perfect and flawless and incapable of wrong#she was like a god to him in a way#and believing that she was perfect and perfectly innocent was his religion. in a way#of course he thinks she couldn't have gone to a party and gotten drunk#that goes against his core beliefs#of course he thinks she could never have gotten so blackout drunk of her own will to have died#of course he thinks she was pressured into doing all of this#of course he thinks that she was murdered#ideal victims create ideal perpetrators etc. etc.#of course he thinks the mystery club killed her#he doesn't care about what motive they could have had (for they had none)#his god was dead and they killed her#of course he decided to kill them in turn#of course his 'last reason for living' became to 'paint a world without those sinners in it' (not direct quotes but close enough)#of course he fancied himself as some sort of divine judge#'i know Man can never become a god' and all#and who knows who chiori actually was#maybe she was just as morisu made her out to be. maybe she wasn't#in the end it doesn't matter#in the end chiori is only relevant as the driving force behind morisu's actions#maybe he always believed her to be so. or maybe he retroactively defined his beliefs around her death#we will never know#kawaminami and also sort of orczy and leroux give us more information about chiori#but even then she could really just be a normal girl who was pretty and kind and shy#who decided to have some fun for once and took some risks and died because of it#and it's just morisu who's absolutely deranged about her
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if Joe and I took a picture in 2007 this is literally what it would've looked like
#also can we just appreciate this innocent little girl and then joe's filthy fucking LUST shirt#def leppard#joe elliott#what a fucking sinner eongwoerngwer#also i am well aware this is the first time i actually made a post in like 2 months sdorgfneoarngaernge#i'm sorry but i'm balls deep into a styx affair rn and anyone who knows me or follows my main knows that against their will#i'm just tryna ride the styx tsunami out bc i fucking love it
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