#injustice in shows

[casualavocados]

Gemini and Fourth are nothing like Atom and Kongthap. When they're together, it's chaotic. They're always messing around with each other. If I had a friend who's been working with me for a long time, I believe the vibes would be similar.

MY LOVE MIX-UP! THAILAND (2024) BTS & Special Ep

[emma-d-klutz]

I wish Batman would fuck with the Joker more. I know he can't. Scratch, I know an important piece of their core dynamic is that he is above it, which opens the way to great contrasts when other characters (ie icon Terry Bats) do. But come on, it would be so easy. It would be free.

During a teamup in Gotham, Bats could dreamily remark that he likes Superman because he makes him laugh. What options does the clownfucker have now? Try to jealously kill fucking Superman or simply dive backwards into the Hudson River. The whole thing would take ten seconds of work, and I don't think there'd be collateral damage. Superman's already there.

[ride-thedragon]

Nettles and Race.

George is great at both analysing and subverting genre tropes. We see this with his portrayal of the Targaryens as bad white blonde powerful elf like people. Or his understanding consistently in his works that beauty doesn't equal morality. This is surface level, and he does have his shortcomings (how he portrays the Dothraki in a lot of aspects, etc) but I find it really interesting the amount of tropes and conventions he addresses and subverts with Nettles specifically in such a short span of the book. George uses specific racial imagery with Nettles that we don't see often from him, in short. Here's a list:

Implementation and Subversion

1. The most unlikely is, the most unlikely:

Oftentimes, in fantasy stories, the least likely is a white disenfranchised person. The majority of the time, it's because they are poor or treated poorly. Nettles is a black girl who is poor, orphaned, and marked for thieving, and none of that hinders her own feat of claiming a dragon or the accepting initially that she does. She's unlikely, extremely unlikely, the most unlikely choice.

2. Black girls are allowed to feel:

Nettles cries and grieves. Of all the dragonseeds, she's the only one positioned to feel remorse and loss after the Battle of Driftmark. She is foul-mouthed (though not written into the narrative) and fearless. Often times their is a need for black women to be strong (not have access to their emotions) or angry (the only emotion they're allowed because they're "loud"). Nettles is crass and sensitive. She's multifaceted.

3. White people don't center black narratives:

Typically, black characters in fantasy are centred around white protagonists. Nettles distinctly isn't when you focus on her. This is different from being impacted. To be impacted means you're a part of the plot. To have someone be centred in your narrative would be for your existence in the narrative to entirely depend on your relationship with them. You don't exist outside of them. Nettles does. She has an entire life up until she claims Sheepstealer without any intervention from the Targs, and after she leaves the main narrative of Fire and Blood, she has a life. This is even in a Targaryen history book.

4. Black girls deserve to be protected and loved:

Nettles is protected by the men around her in the narrative. Oftentimes, this is something not afforded to black characters, far less for black women in fantasy narratives, but she is protected. Not just by Daemon, who is someone who has extreme emotional stakes with her but by the men of Maidenpool and Lord Corlys. All of whom are white in the books. Nettles is protected by men unquestioningly. They may decide how to do it or have a bigger motive, but protecting her is never a question.

5. Promiscuity questioned:

Nettles is never shown to be a promiscuous character through an unbiased lens. Every time a person brings up Nettles' sex, it's through the lens of necessity or heavily implied to be a dramatic assumption. The two biggest cases, "her raising her skirts for sheep" by Septon Eustace is counteracted by the fact that she's marked as a thief and claims a dragon called Sheepstealer who she's likened to in the narrative and by Rhaenyra who is disproven from her "she seduced the prince with spells" theory by both the men of Maidenpool who don't believe her and Daemon who let's Nettles go. Anytime her promiscuity is presented, it's immediately questioned by who we are told she is.

6. White women tears:

Historically and in fiction, the tears of a white woman are enough to derail any existence of a black character permanently or are at least meant to. Black people, fictional or real, are consistently tormented with the notion of white woman tears or emotional outbursts. Their actions cause a major consequence with white women. With Rhaenyra, this would be Nettle slowing her head for her suspicions. Nettles does not and gets away from. The narrative. This is unheard of. In fantasy doesn't occur because most times, the black woman would be punished, but in fandom, this idea is also reflected in the call for Nettles to be replaced.

7. Relationship with the lead man:

Daemon, for better or worse, is the lead man of the dance. Nettles finds herself attached to him in a relationship that seems, for lack of a better word loving. They seem comfortable, happy, and he's doting towards her. They spend all their time together, and it's paralleled with his other 'living' relationships as well. She's portrayed as his last great love and in the universe, the singers say as much. Issues aside, this is rare. (Martha Jones, I'm sorry I wasn't your writer)

8. Power and Worship:

Nettles is worshipped and seems to become a Goddess in her own right at the end of her narrative departure. Nettles is viewed as a deity because of the power she claimed by herself. Revolutionary. Also it isn't some blink and you can avoid it thing. It ties into the main story of Game of Thrones and her clan, the Burned men helping Tyrion Lannister.

9. Mammy, Sapphire Jezabel ext:

Mammy: Maternal black woman. Lives to serve white people and nothing else.

Sapphire: Rude, loud, stubborn, malicious, 'dumb' black women, nothing else.

Jezabel: raw, sexual, can barely restrain their sexuality and live to tempt (white) men. Nothing else.

Not once does Nettles tie into any of these tropes without it being questioned in the narrative or simply ignored in her story. So many representations of black women, especially in fantasy, fall into the first two or friend not lover trope, help mate trope, etc. anything that justifies their existence by tying them to white characters with no other outlook. Nettles subverts this.

10. Season of the Witch:

Black witches and their history save me. Black witches and their history save. This aligns itself with African spiritually and the otherness assigned to enslaved women who practised both 'witchcraft' and medicinal herbology for lack of a better word.

Witchcraft is also often tied to the imagery of the irresistible black woman as it's almost inhuman to be that attracted to black women when white women are available.

So when it's said that Nettles is a witch, imagery similar to the justifications of white women during slavery are being invoked but not followed through because no one believes her.

11. Disposable Black Love interest

This is also a big issue across genres with black chapters. It happens with Laena in the show as well. When the plot calls for it (or in a lot of cases fans) you dispose of the black love interest in place of a white one. Nettles removal from the narrative immediately calls for both Daemon's and Aemond's removal from the narrative. She isn't disposable. She's a linchpin. Also, Daemon does not go back to Rhaenyra after Nettles leaves. He just dies.

12. Nothing Special:

Magical black negros that helps the protagonist, welcome to your tape.

The magical black negros trope is this convention within fantasy where a black character will appear only to be an aid to a white character by their use of magic. They don't exist or have a life outside this purpose. Nettles could've fallen into this trap.

The idea that she isn't Valyrian could have easily been tied with the spells angle outside Rhaenyra’s bias. Instead of that, however, we get the idea that Nettles is just smart and interesting. She's allowed to be smart and interesting. The narrative defends her being smart and interesting.

She might not be Valyrian. She might not be a witch or seductress. She might be just a really clever girl who defies the odds and conventions.

Conclusion

I think Nettles was both an active effort on George's part to defy conventions and subevert stereotypes and tropes as well as a way to question his reader's bias. Nettles is often reduced to trivial, replaceable, and minor when she's not. You just have to want to pay attention to her.

[aahanna]

"Silent Endorsement: When Disrespect Becomes the Norm"

"Has anyone noticed how some Indian uncles flirt with any aunty at functions, even in front of their wives, and everyone thinks it's a joke? They often don't maintain boundaries, and people rarely teach them manners—this behaviour is generally ignored..

In Taarak Mehta Ka Ooltah Chashmah, we see Jethalal using degrading and humiliating terms for his own wife, like 'nonsense,' '7th fail,' 'dhobi,' etc., but he showers love and attention on his neighbour and never misses a chance to flirt with her. They often take advantage of innocent wives who are completely dependent on them, while sticking their noses into other women's affairs, and society still thinks it's normal."

[macabresymphonies]

Fanboying time!

Don't know if many people noticed, but some of the girls dressed as Ivy are a reference to her different iterations across DC IPs (albeit some altered as the wouldn't fly on an underaged girl), from left to right we have:

Girl #1 - "Harley Quinn" Ivy (Ivy's original design in the show)

Girl #2 - "Batman and Robin" Uma Thurman's Ivy (twin cone hair version)

Girl #3 - Unsure, although I do think it might again be "Batman and Robin" Uma Thurman's Ivy, this time this cape variant of her later design

Girl #4 - Leaf crown indicates it's either the OG first appearance of Ivy in "Batman #181" version

OR, going by vine leggings, it could empowered by The Green Ivy from the show (although I'm prettty sure this design was inspired by OG Ivy to begin with)

Girl #5 - Yet again, "Batman and Robin" Uma Thurman's Ivy (no twin cones hair version) such an icon she appears thrice

Girl #6 - The carnivorous plants on her shoulders might indicate it's a downscaled and censored "Injusitice 2" game Ivy design

Girl #7 - Rings some enormous bells in my head, but can't say for certain. I think it's some more obscure DC cartoon iteration.

Girl #8 - This one is super easy, this 100% is the original "DC Super Hero Girls" cartoon Ivy

And that's it, if anybody know who the Girl #7 references let me know, other than that, pretty cool easter egg.

[xoxoemynn]

just saw a tiktok (shut up) of someone listing shows they DNFed after investing 5 or more seasons worth of time into and GOD that was a punch to the gut.

imagine. watching FIVE WHOLE SEASONS and there was still MORE and you CHOSE not to continue watching because the quality went downhill and wasn't worth it anymore.

and we had two gorgeous seasons and couldn't even get THREE, just to wrap it up.

I am, in fact, still mad.

[nat-20s]

I REALLY do think 15 and Martha could be buddies like I think 15 is so so so much more willing to apologize and acknowledge his mistakes and ALSO be in a place mentally where he CAN be a good friend to Martha!! He's no longer asking for her to simultaneously fix him and be someone else and put up with all that shit for no reward he wholeheartedly would just be looking to be a good and caring friend to her. Martha special when.

[the-eclectic-wonderer]

NOOOOOOO DETECTIVE WILLIAMS WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU NEED MORE TIME YOU AND YOUR WIFE WERE MY FAVOURITE COUPLE!!!!!!

[alluralater]

if you guys could stop reblogging tentacle porn while i’m with a girl who thinks i have normal interests, i would so appreciate it

[iamnmbr3]

Voldemort recruiting werewolves and other nonhumans to his cause: I will give you power in a society that has shunned you and the freedom to live openly.

The Order of the Phoenix recruiting werewolves and other nonhumans to their cause: Thoughts and prayers. We support you.

[all-the-fandoms-6413]

LIKE WHO DECIDES TO DELETE BOTH THE WESPER SCENE AND THE INEJ JESPER GOODBYE SCENE FROM THE SHOW I- 

[waitingforsecretsouls]

Fëanor and succession

"High princes were Fëanor and Fingolfin, the elder sons of Finwë, honoured by all in Aman; but now they grew proud and jealous each of his rights and his possessions. Then Melkor set new lies abroad in Eldamar, and whispers came to Fëanor that Fingolfin and his sons were plotting to usurp the leadership of Finwë and of the elder line of Fëanor, and to supplant them by the leave of the Valar; for the Valar were ill-pleased that the Silmarils lay in Tirion and were not committed to their keeping." - The Silmarillion, Chapter 07: Of the Silmarils and the Unrest of the Noldor

„Though after the rule of the Noldor was committed to him [Fingolfin] by Manwë (in place of his elder brother and father) he took the name of Finwë.“ -Morgoth’s Ring, The Later Quenta Silmarillion (II)

"He [Fëanor] claimed now the kingship of all the Noldor, since Finwë was dead, and he scorned the decrees of the Valar." -The Silmarillion, Chapter 09: Of the Flight of the Noldor

"As he [Fëanor] said with some justice: ‘My brother’s claim rests only upon a decree of the Valar; but of what force is that for those who have rejected them and seek to escape from their prison-land?’" -The Peoples of Middle - Earth, Chapter 11: The Shibboleth of Fëanor

"Therefore even as Mandos foretold the House of Fëanor were called the Dispossessed, because the overlordship passed from it, the elder, to the house of Fingolfin, both in Elendë and in Beleriand, and because also of the loss of the Silmarils." -The Silmarillion, Chapter 13: Of the Return of the Noldor

"With him into banishment went his seven sons, and northward in Valinor they made a strong place and treasury in the hills; and there at Formenos a multitude of gems were laid in hoard, and weapons also, and the Silmarils were shut in a chamber of iron. Thither also came Finwë the King, because of the love that he bore to Fëanor; and Fingolfin ruled the Noldor in Tirion. Thus the lies of Melkor were made true in seeming, though Fëanor by his own deeds had brought this thing to pass; and the bitterness that Melkor had sown endured, and lived still long afterwards between the sons of Fingolfin and Fëanor." -The Silmarillion, Chapter 07: Of the Silmarils and the Unrest of the Noldor

"One thing only marred the design of Manwë. Fëanor came indeed, for him alone Manwë had commanded to come; but Finwë came not, nor any others of the Noldor of Formenos. For said Finwë: ‘While the ban lasts upon Fëanor my son, that he may not go to Tirion, I hold myself unkinged, and I will not meet my people.’" -The Silmarillion, Chapter 08: Of the Darkening of Valinor

"Fingolfin had prefixed the name Finwë to Ñolofinwë before the Exiles reached Middle-earth. This was in pursuance of his claim to be the chieftain of all the Ñoldor after the death of Finwë, and so enraged Fëanor that it was no doubt one of the reasons for his treachery in abandoning Fingolfin and stealing away with all the ships." -The Peoples of Middle - Earth, Chapter 11: The Shibboleth of Fëanor

"So it came about that to Fëanor the rejection of þ became a symbol of the rejection of Míriel, and of himself, as her son, as the chief of the Noldor next to Finwë: […] So Fëanor would call himself 'Son of the þerindë', and when his sons in their chilhood asked why their kin in the house of Finwë used s for þ he answered: 'Take no heed! We speak as is right, and as King Finwë himself did before he was led astray. We are his heirs by right and the elder house. Let them sá – sí, if they can speak no better.'" -The Peoples of Middle – Earth, Chapter 11: The Shibboleth of Fëanor

"To his sons Finwë gave his own name as he had done to Fëanor. This maybe was done to assert their claim to be his legitimate sons, equal in that respect to his eldest child Kurufinwë Fayanáro, but there was no intention of arousing discord among the brothers, since nothing in the judgement of the Valar in any way impaired Fëanor’s position and rights as his eldest son. Nothing indeed was ever done to impair them, except by Fëanor himself; and in spite of all that later happened his eldest son remained nearest to Finwë’s heart." -The Peoples of Middle- Earth, Chapter 11: The Shibboleth of Fëanor

[blueskittlesart]

i am an athena cykes defender forever and ever until the day i die but god. somewhere out there there is a universe where apollo justice got actual follow through and it kills me that i am not living in it

[alternautxyz]

uuhhh in other new that lmk s5 trailer dropped and people are very

mixed

for context the new season is being partly animated by wildbrain i think. flying bark is still working on the show but probably due to all the other projects they've been working on like the atla movie the animation is off.

its understandable that people are upset. lmk has some of the most consistently dynamic and lively animation ive ever seen, and going from that to ok animation kinda sucks. as a culmination of a lot of what the series has been building up to people were inevitably going to be disappointed

at the same time people shouldnt harass animators. like ever. no amount of trying to petition or anything will change the s5, people are just trying to do their job and theres no probably no major changing to the finished product by now. and theres still a lot of that lmk charm in there, and we haven't even seen the whole season yet to judge it. flying bark is still working on it, and even if the animation never reaches the peak of the old seasons it still has the same writers so at least the writing has the chance to live up old standards. idk though we'll just have to wait and see

[littlefankingdom]

Tim's death [Injustice 2]

TIM IS LOVED, OKAY?! It's not because DC doesn't love him and put him in queer jail that he isn't loved by the batfam. Do not put the blame on them when it's DC the issue. Anyway, here is the proof: his death in the Injustice 2 comics.

At this point, Bruce has lost everything. Dick is dead and came back as Deadman, Damian joined Superman's fascist thingy and is currently helping his grandfather do a genocide, Jason is also on with the genocide thingy (They are being very stupid) and even Alfred was murdered. Tim, however, has disappeared with the Titans just after Superman killed the Joker. Well, they were in the Phantom Zone, to save Connor's life, and, after 6 years, they are finally free (Only Superman knew and he didn't tell anyone). Tim never stopped believing that Bruce would come for them, it's pointed out by the other Titans how Tim couldn't stop believing in Bruce, it's adorable, he loves his dad. And Bruce is releaved to get one of his boys back. BUT Zod is here and immediately kills him. Tim dies in his father's arms.

The line "I think that could be exactly what's needed" is about Bruce, as him, Alfred and also Harley have pointed out how Bruce is when he doesn't have one of his boys by his side. Like, he NEEDS to have Tim. Bruce, in Injustice, is a character based on family, so the narrative around him always goes back to his family. But it's also a character that lose said family without losing hope.

Bruce doesn't participate in the battle against Zod, he just holds his son's body during all of it, his attention staying on Tim, he completely shut down. He couldn't save his son who was right by his side. It's only after Zod escapes that Bruce moves, pain boiling into rage.

Bruce acknowledges that Tim made him a better man, which is a call-back to how Tim found him during his violent rampage to deal with his grief. And with Tim now dead, it's time for the violent grief to come out again, but for him this time, not Jason. He wants nobody to stop him, and nobody tries to (they care about their lives, thank you)

Bruce: You killed one of my boys. You should be afraid of me, because I'm going to fuck you up. (Good shit)

Barbara's line makes me think they all thought this could be Bruce breaking point, and they would have understand, getting themselves ready to comfort him for breaking his code. But he didn’t, Amazo killed Zod.

[plasticmans-plasticfan]

give us a compilation of plas quotes

hope this is what you were hoping for. hats off to @ductile-detective once again for the amazing editing work. (video was to big for tumblr so its on youtube) ~(⁠ ⁠ꈍ⁠ᴗ⁠ꈍ⁠)