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SURE LOL making this its own post so I don't bother op with how genuinely annoying I am
"what's your educated take on bakugou" (this is the primary litmus test. if you have a dogshit opinion about him I am terminating the conversation effective immediately)
"what do you ship in this series, if you ship at all, using strictly the text with no fandom interference" (testing to see if you can separate canon from fanon, because fanon has severely warped many's perception of canon. I think most, if not all, big ships in this series were sabotaged by the fandom - either by misinterpreting the characters in the ships or artificially inflating/deflating their importance to the story)
"what are some general themes and takeaways of this narrative"
@bakugous-broken-toothbrush
#i didnt actually think about my riddles 3 when i was typing out those tags so i just came up with some placeholder ones for now#i also wanted to put 'what is your educated take on deku' bc im getting so tired of incel weirdo men parading him around#'hes just like me fr!!! hes a nerdy dweeb who fucks hot women!!! and he is NOT gay bc EYE am not gay'#but if ill be quite honest i think bkg is a better judge of reading comprehension bc his character is so obviously displayed that#if u dont get it then damn. i literally dont have anything to say to u. just scram!#hope these make sense. i am so tired of mha misinformation every second of my waking life#bnha#mha#becki rambles about stuff
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Is it true that Deku’s friends stopped talking to him after he became quirkless or are incel dudebros just making exaggerating as always and being weird about ships…
#because that’s all I’ve been seeing are ppl just trying to be funny#leave deku alone 🗿#rambling#I hate anime fans sm especially shounen fans#both the incels and the fujo’s sorry I can’t support women all the time 🚶🏾♀️
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catching up on the manga rn and congratulations shigadekus!
#deku really did say 'i can fix him' like he didnt spend the entirety of the manga as a genocidal incel#now thats unconditional love#anonymous
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2024 collection part one
January
Condescending boyfriend:
♡ HOPELESS
Yandere kidnapper is a sexual sadist:
♡ RIBBED CONDOMS
Yandere kidnapper throatfucks you after anal:
♡ ATM
Awful nasty incel:
♡ drabble
Boss uses his assistant whenever he wants and however he wants:
♡ BOSS
Yandere captor using you as his pretty rope-bunny:
♡ ROPE-BUNNY
Simpy boyfriend is unabashedly obsessed with your ass:
♡ ASS
JJK—Hunter Gojo traps Nymph reader in the woods:
♡ FORBIDDEN FRUIT
Ex-boyfriend kidnaps you:
♡ LOVE ME
Yandere captor staking claim to all your holes:
♡ STUFFED
JJK—Gojo x maid darling:
♡ drabble
Yandere captor has too much libido:
♡ REMINDER
Another day waking up next to your yandere captor:
♡ MORNING WOOD
JJK—Senpai Gojo teasing Kohai reader:
♡ TRUTH OR DARE
You break up with your fuckfriend, and he doesn't take it well:
♡ FUBU
Creep captor dresses you up like a doll and takes pictures of you:
♡ DOLL
JJK—Yandere Gojo with a reader who is immune to his techniques:
♡ FINITE
Yandere captor loves watching you cum:
♡ THAT SPECIAL PLACE
BNHA—Childhood friend Deku never stops crushing on you:
♡ WHAT ARE FRIENDS FOR?
You're a popular airhead, and he's your loser tutor:
♡ BLIND TRUST
JJK—Immature bully Gojo picks on reader:
♡ MILK
You become the spoiled prince's personal maid:
♡ FARM ANIMAL
Poly yandere captors make you cum for them:
♡ A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE
Yandere plays the good guy:
♡ GOOD GUY
Stepdaddy puts you in your place:
♡ BRAT
Businessman yandere comes home to his little trophy wife:
♡ STRESS BALL
JJK—Childhood friend Gojo doesn't want to share you with anyone:
♡ TOGETHER FOREVER
JJK—Boyfriend Suguru shares you with his best friend Satoru:
♡ FAVORITE PEOPLE
Poly wolfboys x bunny reader:
♡ BUNNYHOLES
Beast boyfriend x human reader:
♡ INSTINCTS
February
You try running away from your two poly yandere captors:
♡ ROPE OR BAT?
You're an older guy's pleasure pet:
♡ BEDTIME FEEDING
Omega reader tries running away from Alpha mate:
♡ SILLY LITTLE MATE
Jock bully asks you to tutor him:
♡ NERD
BNHA—Childhood friend Bakugou and you:
♡ NO ONE ELSE
JJK—Asylum patient Mahito x psychologist reader:
♡ EAT
Massive warrior claims you as his war prize:
♡ WAR PRIZE
Step-daddy puts you in your place:
♡ TRAINING
JJK—Bully Suguru is not like other bullies:
♡ BULLY
Snugglebug boyfriends who're just so clingy and hopeless:
♡ VIRGINAL
HAZBIN HOTEL—Adam is an entitled prick:
♡ GENESIS
JJK—Noaya falls for his favorite brothel whore:
♡ WHORE
Spending Valentine's Day with your incel kidnapper:
♡ HAPPY VALENTINES
Poly wolfboys x bunny reader:
♡ GROOMING
Delinquent childhood friend x reader:
♡ SUCKER
Businessman x trophy wife:
♡ TASTE OF MONEY
Rich boyfriend is condescending:
♡ SNOB
Pet collector buys bunny reader:
♡ BOUGHT & SOLD ♡ THE OTHER PETS
Sweet boyfriend won't stop talking about anal:
♡ SECOND VIRGINITY
March
Aromantic psychopathic yandere kidnaps you:
♡ NUISANCE
JJK—Okkotsu Yuta x mean girl curse:
♡ MEAN GIRL
Reader owes the mob:
♡ PROPERTY
DEATH NOTE—L is fascinated by you:
♡ PAPER SWANS
Your college roommate rubs you the wrong way:
♡ PERFECT STRANGERS
When the playboy finally falls in love:
♡ PLAYBOY
BNHA—You and Bakugou survive under a collapsed building together:
♡ SHARED TRAUMA
You let your bully fuck you in exchange for him leaving you alone:
♡ WORSE OFF
Boyfriend is embarrassed:
♡ POST NUT CLARITY
Ex-boyfriend wants you back so badly:
♡ UNFAIR
April
Ghost month! This month doesn't exist!
May
Rich husband owns everything you have:
♡ BARBIE
Ex-military yandere kidnaps you:
♡ EX-MILITARY YANDERE
Teacher teaches you a hard lesson:
♡ HARD LESSON
Your boyfriend is down bad, and it's threatening:
♡ BRUISER BOYFRIEND
Your toxic boyfriend is a little old-fashioned-minded:
♡ BENEVOLENT SEXIST
June
JJK—Sukuna adds virgin!nun!reader to his harem:
♡ UNHOLY
Breaking up with your bad boyfriend:
♡ BAD BREAKUP
BNHA boys as mythic creatures x darling:
♡ MYTHIC
JJK—God!Gojo x human sacrifice:
♡ DIRT POOR
Your childhood bully tracks you down:
♡ APOLOGETIC BULLY only avaliable on AO3 ♡ PART TWO
You make the big angry alpha blush:
♡ BIG ANGRY ALPHA
You were certain you were an Alpha, but as it turns out...
♡ TWIST OF FATE
Can two Betas do the work of one Alpha?
♡ TWO BETAS, ONE OMEGA
JJK—You stab Gojo. He kinda likes it:
♡ KNIFE
The old-fashioned boss with intern reader:
♡ NEW INTERN
JJK men as mythic creatures x darling:
♡ MYSTIC ♡ MYTHIC
You're not cheap, but you're worth it:
♡ FAVORITE WHORE
You open your heart to your fuck-friend:
♡ DAMAGED
Your Alpha Mate is so in love with you it's a little exhausting:
♡ LOVEY-DOVEY ALPHA
JJK—Gojo Senpai won't leave you alone:
♡ TAKE A HINT
JJK—Soft boyfriend Gojo headcanons:
♡ BOYFRIEND GOJO
♡ 2024 COLLECTION PART TWO
#just a lil something imma start doing#yandere x reader#yandere#yandere male#yandere x darling#male yandere#yanderecore#soft yandere#yandere imagines#yandere bnha#yandere boku no hero academia#yandere boyfriend#yandere masterlist#yandere jjk#yandere my hero academia#yandere jujutsu kaisen
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Where does that weird characterization of Izuku being a whiny nice guy incel even comes from anyway?
Just because he is kind that doesn't mean he's constantly doing that out of malice to get into a girl's pants, that's literally the antithesis of Izuku's whole ass character.
People say no one is against boy/girl friendships but they can't even handle platonic Iz/och as a concept.
I wish I knew where that came from, Anon! Actually on second thought, no the heck I don't.
I really hate that, just in general for these kind of characters, how some people will flip Izuku's niceness into something else that is entirely not him.
Oh, he's nice? Pushover.
Wrong, you're wrong.
He's nice? Trying to get into a girl's pants.
Disgusting, how dare you.
Seriously, they can't handle nice characters like Izuku without twisting them into some OC with the same name and completely misinterpreting the story.
Those same people as you said can't even handle M/F pairs being friends. They whine about same sex relationships and "people can't see them as friends" but BEHOLD! Here they are losing the damn mind over a canon friendship between a male character and a female one.
They also act as if people are stopping them from shipping a girl and a guy. They whine about people shipping characters of the same gender (mostly males) and mischaracterizing them. Yet turn around and do the same thing with characters of different genders! Projection, no better.
I guess they're mad that Horikoshi didn't make their "Deku Harem" concepts canon.
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-MASTERLIST-
-Requests/Asks : Open!
(Please specify if you want NSFW, Fluff, or Angst cause I mostly write smut in default)
Things I won't write : (list is still growing)
Incest (stepcest is fine)
Character x Character
x Male!Reader
Scat
Anal (pegging is fine)
Feet stuff
-My Hero Academia-
Izuku Midorya :
Distractions (Collage!Deku) [nsfw]
First Cigarette (Smoker!Reader) [sfw]
Bakugo Katsuki :
Dirty Secrets (FWB!Bakugo) [nsfw+angst]
Cats (Married to you) [sfw]
Ejiro Kirishima :
Behind the Scenes (PornStar AU)[nsfw]
Iced (ice play + Bodyworship)[nsfw]
Denki Kaminari :
Private Party (RaveBoy!Denki) [nsfw]
(Private Party 2 (RaveBoy!Denki) [nsfw]
Satisfaction (Unsatisfied!Reader) [nsfw]
Spoiled (RichBf!Denki) [nsfw]
Denki drabble [nsfw]
Tamaki Amajiki :
Sex Addict (Hypersexual!Tamaki)[nsfw]
Stoned (Stoner!Tamaki)[sfw]
After Party (DJ!Tamaki) [nsfw]
Tomura Shigaraki:
Intoxicated (Incel!Shiggy) [nsfw]
Shouta Aizawa :
Ganked(Somnophilia) [nsfw]
Cam On (P☆!Reader) [nsfw]
"Bad day?" (Ask) [sfw]
After hours (Actor!Aizawa) [nsfw]
-Haikyuu!!-
Toru Oikawa :
Vulgar (Degration)[nsfw]
Yuu Nishinoya :
Sweets(SweetsAddicted!Reader)[nsfw]
Panties (3rdYear!Nishinoya)[nsfw]
Other :
Ultraman Rising (Kenji Sato)[nsfw]
Kenji & Doggy Style (Drabble) [nsfw]
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I have to agree. I will argue that cwac is well written but it's essentially just different characters with a bnha coat of paint, it was written so many years ago where it could've technically been a direction taken but canon has deviated so far from it no longer resembles anything close to it. The problem begins when some take it as a canon interpretation when it was not leading to infighting and misreading of canon events and character, although this is no fault of the author who I believe is still very talented.
When I first got into the fandom circa 2018, right before Hawks debuted, I was super obsessed with Deku and so CWAC was up my alley. But the moment I started paying attention to the villains, somehow it clearly dawned on me how not only OOC the story was but just how much the author clearly dislikes characters like Shigaraki or Dabi and how much it shows, fairly juvenile-y.
I won't argue that the author isn't talented, but over the years a friend who was also a very Big Writer at the time of CWAC's popularity 2018-ish has told me how discussions about the League went very badly.
The issue still is the fandom. I absolutely blame DFO on CWAC and the other work of the author that the name escapes me. Even now, when I look at DFO dynamics or the weird afo inko obsession they absolutely clearly have elements from the fic, so essentially what CWAC did was establish such a clear fanon that even non-fic readers have taken it as part of the theory.
I mean, again this is more the issue of the fandom in general just clinging on to very old perceptions of characters and plots. I'm going to rant about that below.
I'll use Tomura as an example because what made me dislike CWAC was the handling of him when I started to realize just how rich Horikoshi made Tomura 's character. Some shig-haters never get passed Kamino in what they think of him, and there are the LOV stans who haven't caught up with the idea that actually the MLA arc was *bad* for the League and are still in the viewpoint that the villains are revolutionaries. So there's these spaces where Shigaraki is just seen as a murderous incel versus Shigaraki is Che Guevara incarnate.
And these echo chambers are so removed from each other that very often little nuance penetrates, so you have incredibly established fanon truths that are rarely deviated from and people just stop examining the source material. Then conflict arises when you leave the echo chamber and talk to someone else.
Also worth mentioning is that the fandom echo chambers manage to function as they do by assigning moral values to any "thought crimes" that don't line up with accepted fanon-"canon". Don't think the League are super-radicals who will actually liberate society and create a Marxist utopia? Well you're a capitalist pig who supports cops, bye. You can see it with the very hardcore hero stans who think liking a villain means condoning murder too, "why do you like terrorists?" Or come into my inbox to tell me Jin's murder was justified. Fandom is very good at policing itself into cliques, to the detriment of everyone, I think.
It also, I think, created the situation where people in this fandom genuinely hate the work, keep reading it in bad faith due to those ingrained fanon expectations and preconceptions of what the work should be, and then get more and more resentful as time goes on and their views are not even acknowledged.
Seriously, just look back at the reaction of hero stan Twitter and reddit bros at Himiko's whole fight with Ochako. There was so much hatred of how Himiko was being redeemed.
There are still canon DFO fans. I feel sorry for those who had to look at this chapter and realize that what they've sunk so much time into was not real. Disappointment hurts, man.
Anyway, thanks for listening to me rant. I find it fascinating in an academic sense how so much of fandom was shaped by a fic and I wonder if at some point someone will examine it critically.
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mimi who are you leaving at the altar
deku next question
light because all i have to do is snatch that book from that incel
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Can I just say something though, people were saying Horikoshi likes Katsuki but to me this whole deal sounds like he hates Katsuki instead. He only used Katsuki to further Izch, never even had Katsuki's dream come true (he ranks like 15th place in the hero rankings), him and Deku arent even a duo, he never made Deku acknowledge Katsuki's death, sacrifice or apology. Like it's funny how he somehow got one of the worst endings. I am sorry guys but I think Horikoshi just used Bakugo for sales and then just tanked him at the end.
incel power fantasy
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“The only reason girls hate Mineta and Love Denki is because Denki is hot. They are literally the same otherwise!”
No Incel, Denki is a bit pervy but he has other character traits. He is useful in battle, and he is kind and helpful.
Mineta has two character traits;
Perverted
Cowardly
He is almost no help whatsoever in an actual crisis, and to quote a tik tok from the gremlin!Deku au,
“He (mineta) is more likely to prioritize his own life rather than a civilian’s.”
Denki would buy pervy magazines and try to sneak into the girls bathhouse, but if a girl turned him down or outwardly said to stop, he would stop. He is a bit pervy, but he’s not a creep.
Mineta would steal a girls under garments, and would keep harassing a girl if she turned him down.
Take Toritsuka from Saiki K for example,
He isn’t well liked and his pervertedness is NOT overlooked/glorified in the anime or the fandom. He may be good looking but he isn’t beloved, because he is a creep.
So, Incel the reason girls don’t like you isn’t because you are unattractive (you probably are tho) it’s because you have no personality other than being creepy.
#my hero acedamia#mha#bnha#mha denki#mha mineta#denki kaminari#character analysis#saiki k#toritsuka reita
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My Hero Academia Chapter 427 - Who was Togura Shigaraki, really ?
Should I be working on my PhD ? Maybe
But I also need to read that chapter
Anyway
Okay so a tv special on Shigaraki
well, he did kill a lot of people
I wonder where this is going
Because if I ever watched a documentary on some random murderer dictator-wannabe and they ended it with "but he was a misunderstood child with trauma", I would riot !
But let's see what's the angle there
OOOO SPINNER CHAPTER
I'm HYPED
the guy with an unrequited crush
what happened to the quirk AFO gave him ?
Thanks Doctor
clearing things up, pleases me
Well that's a bit ironic considering what Shigaraki did to mostly random civilians that weren't actively against him but yes Deku is a murderer technically.
Even though he just gave AFO what he wanted, his quirk
Well now he's calming down
Spinner really gives me the same vibes as Sensui and Itsuki
Well I'm crying, this hits home a bit with the rise of the far right in France (though we (the left) won). My brothers long for destruction in a similar way because they feel rejected by the system (even though they're ciswhitestraightdudes)
So : CAN Deku save Spinner ???
This could destroy me
Spinner really gives the black incel from the countryside vibes
Deku is calm
Spinner, he was your hero of course, and at least for someone who would probably be akin to some alt right geek, at least, your "hero" was rooting for you and thinking about you.
Not just using you for your money because you think you're a loser who won't amount to anything worthwile
Shigaraki's last words to spinner in an alternate dimension : "you should invest in crypto bro, you'll get rich and have women"
I'm noticing now that I don't know enough about the japanese political system to really understand what is represented here. Spinner and Heteromorphs were definitely supposed to mirror the civil rights movement from the US and yet, did he really try to represent somealt right incel there.
Or is it just a byproduct of Spinner character he didn't realize would come to be ?
To my knowledge, Hikikomoris can share this aspect of incel geeks in japan but I don't really know how it's been lately.
I thought my cultural background was closer than that between US and Japan but it's true I've followed US politics more lately
Let's continue though
Well it hurts Spinner, I understand
But you'll have to move forward and accept his legacy, he didn't only affect you but a lot of other people too and not just "positively"
You'll have to move forward at some point, if not for you, for him.
He's not here anymore, take the time to process your grief, but you need to becomes your own hero from now on.
I truly hope you can fight on your own and take part in the reconstruction of Japan toward a better country.
YES
YES
YES
YES
VERY GOOD
YES I KNEW HE WOULD GET IT
You can be a hero Spinner, to yourself but also to others
you have to begin with yourself too
will you join us ?
And save all the Shigarakis laying in wait, ready to succumb to despair ?
Hahaha nice Deku
but yeah, he won't forget about Shigaraki for as long as he lives
TEARED UP AGAIN
yay Shoji, the GOAT, he saved you too in a sense
Oh shit, does it mean Chisaki interacted with Eri ???
Not a good idea, how'd it go ?
Well, even them will work toward redemption it seems
I doubt Eri will forget too
she's traumatized and it's probably lying somewhere, repressed very deep into her psyche.
Thanks Tsukauchi, but a good psychiatrist would be a better idea, she already has a good support system
she needs professional help to complement it
if needed
Oh first years already !? Too bad they'll get expelled in a matter of hours
Oh god no please
fangirls
and Mineta
kill him right now if he even dares to go back to his perverted mind
Is there even a guy in there ?
Anyway, very good chapter
Is MHA going to have one of the best conclusions among mangas (especially big WSJ mangas) ? I'm starting to believe it !
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For the Enstars dub I think my faves from what I could stomach were the twins, they’re so perfect, and Tsumugi. Tsumugi gets a pass because his va is also MHA Deku and that man never takes an L ever, but also… he’s my little bby girl mwah Tsugi is perfect always and forever mwah love him 💙🩵💙🩵
Also I really liked Anzu’s voice, almost forgot about her. But Rei makes me throw up, his voice sounds like he’d be a 4chan incel from my Highschool.
oh yeah mugi and anzus voices were alright. ive never seen bnha though much less the dub . i didnt like reis either it just doesnt fit him . honestly i hated the twins voices the most they sound nothing like how id expect them to hdjjdhdhsb
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2023 collection part one
January
BNHA—Inconsolable yandere Bakugou and Kirishima just wants you to love them:
♡ INCONSOLABLE
BNHA—What Bakugou's like in bed:
♡ A SWITCH IN DENIAL
BNHA—What Dabi's like in bed:
♡ SHITTY DOM
BNHA—What Shiggy's like in bed:
♡ AGGRESSIVE SWITCH
BNHA—What Shinso's like in bed:
♡ SADISTIC DOM
BNHA—What Hawks' like in bed:
♡ NEEDY DOM
BNHA—What Kirishima's like in bed:
♡ PUSHY DOM
BNHA—What villain Deku's like in bed:
♡ SICKLY SWEET DOM
February
BNHA—Childhood friend Bakugou and reader in a toxic relationship:
♡ NO ONE ELSE
BNHA—Good yandere Bakugou traits:
♡ GOOD TRAITS
BNHA—Good yandere Shigaraki traits:
♡ GOOD TRAITS
BNHA—Good yandere Kirishima traits:
♡ GOOD TRAITS
BNHA—Good yandere Dabi traits:
♡ GOOD TRAITS
JJK—What Itadori Yuuji and Sukuna's like in bed:
♡ SELFISH SWITCH
JJK—Gojo keeps you as his pet:
♡ PET
JJK—What Megumi's like in bed:
♡ POSSESSIVE DOM
BLLK—Poly NagiReo x captive darling:
♡ SPOILED ROTTEN
HAIKYU!! boys ranked on levels of possessiveness:
♡ POSSESSIVE
JJK—Yandere Nanami and his strict routines:
♡ STRICT ROUTINES
JJK—Gojo smut alphabet:
♡ NSFW ABCs
BNHA—Yandere Shoto develops a fascination for ballerina reader:
♡ DANCE
March
BNHA—Wolf hybrids Deku and Bakugou ravage poor bunny reader:
♡ PREY ♡ part two
BNHA—Poly Kirishima and Bakugou are a toxic duo for poor captive darling:
♡ BAD COP/GOOD COP
BNHA—Bakugou as Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde:
♡ SPLIT
BNHA—Nasty captor Deku makes you rim him:
♡ CONDITIONING
BNHA—Kirishima lusts for the supervisor reader who chews him out:
♡ NOT EASY
BNHA—Nasty Shigaraki makes pretty reader rim him:
♡ PRETTY RIMMER
BNHA—Deku stalks his old bully:
♡ LOSER
BNHA—Soft and gentle noncon with yandere captor Deku:
♡ FULL
BNHA—Sad and lonely stalker Bakugou:
♡ DRIVEN MAD
April
BNHA—Bakugou smut alphabet:
♡ NSFW ABCs
BNHA—Scummy Dabi and Shiggy fight over which hole is better:
♡ WHICH HOLE IS BETTER
BNHA—Incel Shigaraki hating that he's going soft for reader:
♡ MISERY
BNHA—Yandere captor Deku tries to be gentler with captive reader:
♡ SOFT PROMISES
BNHA—Yandere captor Bakugou hates and regrets what he's done to you:
♡ TIME & EFFORT
May
JJK—Bully Gojo & Geto picking on their classmate:
♡ PLAY NICE
June
BNHA—Ghostface Bakugou:
♡ STRANGER
♡ 2024 COLLECTION PART TWO
#yandere x reader#yandere#yandere male#yandere x darling#male yandere#yanderecore#soft yandere#yandere imagines#yandere bnha#yandere boku no hero academia#yandere boyfriend#yandere masterlist#yandere jjk#yandere my hero academia#yandere jujutsu kaisen
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Its canon. Uraraka throws up a huge amount of blood after getting gutted (like in Toga's dream? Where the bird did it. Maybe since Hori retconned Toga as never having killed the bird but drunk blood from a dead carcass she found. Toga was the sparrow all along). The next panel is literally only Uraraka's boob and the hand encircling it. Twice flashback asks Toga what her villain name would be which will be revealed after a short break of one week. Hori might retcon it to being about Toga needing to support them midair or pivot them around since they're floating just like rn Toga is on the path to having been simply a completely misunderstood girl who committed zero crimes. And Uraraka's shining moment is ignoring every pro-hero like the Pussycats who were shown being stampeded underfoot of the Twice clone wave and her own injuries and molestation to still want to help Toga as Tsuyu declares Uraraka's deep want of understanding and helping this tantrum throwing sad girl who like Touya has never had anyone who hear her side.
In terms of foreshadowing the volume extra special card had a Toga sitting on a pile of stabbed dolls. https://twitter.com/myheroacademia/status/1664059181253419014/photo/2
The Uraraka doll stabbed through her abdomen and left side(which breast is Toga's hand. So possibly the next area to be stabbed?). Hawks was stabbed through the dead-center, presumably heart. While Deku and Endeavor were stabbed through the forehead. No one else shown had stab wounds.
I'm not really all that surprised to hear it was the truth...
I hate how Horikoshi has handled Toga. She's a female incel but one that fandom comes to excuse and defend without fail everytime.
Hori never needed to make Toga's blood-drinking urge sexual but he did which brings up massive issues with consent about her actions against her victims BEYOND just the issue of her hurting them. If she was a male character, fandom would be jumping over themselves to proclaim how disgusting she is.
I don't really see the point in adding that she didn't kill the bird, she might not have but she still showed unhealthy urges by drinking it's blood. Are they trying to say that her parents made her into the monster that now kills for blood? That taking blood from a bleeding person without their consent was ever any good?
I also saw the panels with the Quirk Counselling she received and it's clear that they're just Hori's attempt at trying to make her more sympathetic for not getting the right help however again without proper set up in the world with this being a genuine issue, it falls very flat.
We've had many characters with "bad" quirks, why not show us how Hitoshi has experienced the same issue with counselling to show us that it's an ongoing issue that isn't being tackled?
What side of Toga is Uraraka supposed to hear? How she was able to fit in with society until she decided "fuck it" and hurt people? Or that it's okay that Uraraka has been a victim of harassment by this girl because of her "crush" on her because she's just "misunderstood"?
It feels very... gross.
I'm a firm believer that urges and problematic thoughts aren't bad for people to have as long as you don't act upon them. It's when you act on these urges to hurt others when you've crossed the line and Toga hasn't just crossed the line, she's danced all over it.
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lot of fun opinions on that homophobic shonen protags poll
the debates over yusuke rage. he was openly transphobic on screen, but is also friends with kurama so..hm.
#but I can't believe yusuke has votes when he canonically kissed his bestie#he's a transphobe not a homophobe
obviously there's overlap but! much to consider. he's also someone who grows up a lot during the series and is notably more chill as an older teenager. he definitely said slurs as a 14 yr old tho
ichigo is barely developed but his series is full of stereotypes of gay men as overly concerned with appearance, evilly effeminate, and sexually predatory. 'he has gay friends' says one tag but um citation FUCKING needed! wait shit
#ichigo doesn't understand but he's got the spirit you know? like he thought uryu was gay and tried to be supportive
oh fuck this might have actually happened. okay maybe ichigo isn't the worst but I'm leaving up my earlier thought bc im not a coward
#ive never seen bleach but that guy looks like he'd be an iphone user
ichigo actually predates iphones! but this is not relevant to the discussion
also the tags calling edward a smug atheist bastard vs. his 'love is love' edit lmao
#who the heck slandering Edward Tho!? This boy ain’t give a crap about homo he got better things to worry about. you go little atheist boy.#He the bane of the military existence for a reason that he works for that only keep him around because he good at alchemy. KNOW THE SERIES.
first of all the way this is written is insane. second of all what does being homophobic have to do with being the bane of the military?!
WAIT THERE'S MORE
#who the fuck is calling edward elric homophobic???? yeah he's an annoying atheist but he's so so antifa
PLEASE HE WORKS FOR THE MILITARY
The amount of people saying "edward isnt homophobic" is so funny. The "love is love i see no difference) meme is not the actual edward elric hes a libertarian military brat. Get a grip #''hes so antifa'' you gotta be smoking dick
LIBERTARIAN EDWARD ELRIC
I see why people call yusuke and naruto bi or gay but edward I never really saw it...his friendship with ling seems very hetero to me. fma always came off as a a very cishet series (lest we forget arawaka's 'men are muscular and women are va-voom' doodle + the heteronormative nuclear family ending). and deku and ichigo too I think they're just straight kids
#also izukus homophobia comes from his bully being a fruity bastard
scream?
'most of these protagonists would never be homophobic' I think you've wildly overestimated the average early 2000s 15 year old shonen boy ngl
#kirito vouldnt care less about anything but his friends/harem#he dropped fighting to live out his little nuclear family fantasy#being homophobic isnt on his radar
wow I wonder if having a nuclear family fantasy would predispose you to certain regressive ideas about gender roles and sexual orientation. it's not like most people consciously make an effort to Be Homophobic it just arises from a set of assumptions and stereotypes you're exposed to in a homophobic society....I feel like the person who wrote this may be stupid. this guy is sweeping the poll currently and at least half of the tags that mention him fucking hate him so it sounds like he's a piece of shit. some people are defending him saying he's bi tho. tbh I didn't even think people liked sword art online, famous harem incel incest fantasy about a chronically online gamer boy, in the year of your lord 2024 anymore
back and forths about deku. as a more recent shonen protag he seems less hateful to me but he also seems very het and the author is nasty so. hm
#wtf voted Luffy? he would never. he's literally a pirate
GOOD NEWS EVERYONE PIRATES CAN'T BE HOMOPHOBIC. like I agree but also what an argument, it's kind of nice to see luffy so low since I liked his vibes in the live action but WHO IS VOTING GON??!!!!! you're saying gon is more homophobic that YUSUKE??!!! I don't think gon even knows what homophobia IS and if he did he'd think it was messed up! not a single tag here is disagreeing so maybe they were mistaken votes
goku struck me as foolish yet well-meaning which is what everyone is agreeing.
#also. Goku is aroace spectrum in my hearth. just throwing that out there
god I wish I lived in a world where that meant he wasn't homophobic.
naruto seems to be a mixed bag bc he almost definitely is gay (even tho some ppl in the tags are like umm it's only POSSIBLE) but nobody can agree if he ever stopped being internalized homophobic about it or if he's a more 'confused but he's got the spirit' kind of deal
yuji ranks very low, which also makes sense bc jjk is a newer series and most shonen in the mid-00s had a lot more homophobia in general than they do now. he seems like a decent kid, tho I never finished s1. the pink hair makes him seem chiller than most
kagome is getting mixed reviews but mostly landing on the not homophobic side. having seen nothing of inuyasha I cannot comment. some tags saying she's a fujoshi some saying shes bi some say both
lots of people saying lucy fairy tale so I'm obligated to mention her but idk shit about that show except it looked kinda misogynistic so if she WAS homophobic I'll give her a pass/s
#kirito is the only answer here because everyone else is gay
im sorry but edward and ichigo are like some of the straightest guys in shonen like please
and FINALLY arguments about whether death note should be included, since it was run in shonen jump. it's not a purely action/fantasy series, so that's probably why it was left out, but it WAS targeted towards teenage boys so I guess it would technically count. anyway everyone is saying light would win by a landslide if he was listed
thanks for coming to my breakdown I will probably revisit this in a week when the poll ends
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Projecting onto a character is only wrong when you're actually nothing like the character. I mean like all the dudebros who project onto deku but deku isn't a loser incel with revenge fantasies and they'll call it "bad writing" or "ooc" instead of coming to terms with that fact. Maybe if they projected themselves onto deku and tried to garner some of his GOOD traits through that.... But no they just want deku to be as miserable n resentful as they are irl.
#auds talks#like i project onto bkg n kaiba#and even tho i relate to them bc of their negative traits#i want to gain their good traits#i want to be more ambitious and brave like them
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