#in my opinion she is also autistic. just after knowing her for 2 decades
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my grandma said i'm very social and conversational so i'll be on cloud nine for the rest of the week
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Read These Frequently Asked Questions Before You Send An Ask!
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Heyo! I get a TON of asks each day, so I'm making this post so that folks know what's already been asked so my followers don't have to see the same stuff over and over, haha.
Hi! I'm Punkitt! I'm a game developer, artist, editor, director, and a bunch of other stuff! I'm working on an RPG called Astral Guard, a platformer called Susan Taxpayer, and I have a couple more fun projects in my pocket like Happup and Super Mario Death Row.
Did you know you look like weird al?
YES jesus fucking christ i get told this every day. if u send me a message in my inbox saying i look like weird al im killing you with like wizard spells and shit.
Why do you have so many hats? Do you know you have that many hats?
ye i like hats. :) free tumblr badges for one pea i like one piece and took as many as i could. free.
Where can I find your art/game development/horsecomix?
Great question! Everything I make that's my own and not a reblog is under "my posts", every bit of art I do is under "my art", any game development I do is under "gamedev", you can find all my MLP art under "mlp, my art" or "horsecomix" for the best stuff. I also have an "animations" tag and a "shitposts" tab. I also properly tag all my asks to be asks and write out the asker's name, so if you don't wanna see those just mute the ask tag.
Do you have a Patreon or a Ko-Fi?
I do have a ko-fi here! I also JUST launched a Patreon, which you can find here :)
What do you use for your art?
I use FireAlpaca and Paint.net for misc. effects!
What are you using to make your games?
I use FireAlpaca do make my assets! Astral Guard, Happup, and any other top-down RPG games I make are all made in RPGMaker 2003. Susan Taxpayer is made in SMBX2 Beta 4, a Mario fangame engine with lua support!
Why are you using a 2-decade-plus engine to make games?
It's fun!
Do you have a sideblog or something for your art?
Not right now! What you see is what you get. I do have a sideblog for Astral Guard though, if you want to follow that game specifically! @astral-guard
Can I make an OC based on your work? ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!! THATS THE COOLEST THING EVER!!!! LET ME KNOW IF YOU DO!!!! I WANNA SEE!!!!
Can I do dubs/redraws of your comics? As long as you credit me! I get a ton of notifs each day, so if you wanna show me (and PLEASE i so do wanna see fun dubs and redraws!!!) tag me or DM me!
Can I use your art as a PFP? Sure! Just credit me somewhere. :D
Are you the one who trapped her coworkers in a room and made them listen to TF2 lore?
Yep! Everyone had a blast actually. :]
Did you make that comic where Fluttershy eats the weed brownie/Rainbow Dash has a male living space/someone has a cutie mark that says they'll kill Ronald Reagan?
Yep! That's me.
Where are you in MLP right now?
Currently just finished Season 7! Haven't watched the movie yet.
Have you watched Equestria Girls?
Yep! Thought it was super cute. I watched up to Rainbow Rocks and plan on watching more.
What's your opinion on MLP so far?
I love it! I think it's cute. I really don't agree that there was some sort of huge quality drop after season 2 or whatever.
What do you think of G5?
Not my style! I don't really like either animation types and it just seems like I'm not in the audience anymore. That's totally chill, but it just doesn't grab me!
Have you watched any other MLP stuff from previous generations?
Nope! But I did see a compilation called Minty Being Autistic for Six Minutes Straight that I loved. she's perfect.
Favorite pony?
Don't got one, I love all the Mane Six a LOT, but I'm particularly fond of Fluttershy, Applejack, and Rarity!
Favorite episode/season?
I'm so bad at picking favorites! But any season past Season 1 I have a blast with because I feel like it's just more my style. I don't have a favorite episode, but the most recent one I can remember LOVING is the one where Starlight bottles up her emotions because it was REALLY funny.
Do you like Pony.mov?
Nope! And stop saying my stuff reminds you of it, it's a lil annoying!
Have you watched the Mentally Advanced Series/Friendship is Witchcraft/Other fandom vids?
Probably not! My interaction with the MLP fandom prior to last year was pretty minimal, so I'm making my way through the show first!
What do you think of Fallout: Equestria?
I think it's super weird but really fun because of that. I've never properly read any of it but it's very fascinating to me.
Are you transgender?
Yep! I go by she/her, I'm a trans woman. Have been for many years, but I only recently came out online!
Are you a lesbian?
Nah, I'm bisexual!
Can I commission you?
Yeah! I only have my commissions available on my Ko-Fi at certain times though, so keep an eye out! I usually announce slots being open at least 12 hours beforehand. Slots are usually first come first serve, but we'll see.
Can I use your art as a Discord emote?
Yeah man i'm not scouring every discord on the planet to find stickers of my work. i think it owns if people take my stuff and make it stupid injoke emotes between friends that makes me very happy.
Can I send you an ask inquiring about gender dysphoria?
I feel like this is beyond my capabilities of advice! I'm actually very comfortable with my body and I have been for many years, so I don't know if I can give any good or helpful advice on that front. Apologies, but there are many resources out there where you can ask about those things if you look for them, like Discord channels!
Favorite Color?
I'm a sucker for blue!
Favorite coffee?
Can't drink coffee, my stomach is cringe.
Favorite tea?
I'm lame and can't drink most tea but I love this one orange-flavored tea a lot. I also LOVE ice tea.
Can I say you're horsegender/punkittgender/a little gender goblin void thing?
Well, I can't stop you, but I'm kind of beyond that phase now! I really am a boring ol' plain she/her girl, and I like it that way. It's not much, but it's honest gender.
What's your favorite game series?
Mother, Kingdom Hearts, Mario, and I USED to say Fallout, but I found out I'm really only a big Fallout New Vegas fan.
Favorite game from those?
Mother 3 is one of my fave games of all time! I love KHII, and I'm tied for SMB3 and SMW. Also Fallout New Vegas fucks hard.
Any other favs?
Bug Fables, SLARPG, and TF2!
Favorite Movie?
Everything Everywhere All At Once, no question.
Oh, are you going to college?
Yep! I'm a film/theater major.
Do you have a YouTube channel?
Yeah! Click right here for it, I stream there and upload footage of my games/animations/my film projects + other stuff.
What is that little orange creature I see?
That's bweenop, my little persona that I use when I'm feeling a little scrunkly.
Do you have a ponysona?
Yep! Her name is Star Magnolia, you can search her on the blog to see art of her.
When will Susan Taxpayer/Astral Guard/etc. be out?
No clue! I take things slow, that's just how I am.
How do you work on so many things at once?
I make small, satisfying amounts of progress! I never try to complete one giant thing all at once, I just like doing small bursts of fun stuff. I got ADHD, so I learn to work with it.
Did you know you look like Weird Al?
Im going to run you over with a clown car watch out
WHY do you work on so many things at once?
Fun! I like learning, I like making cool stuff, and I like showing it to people :)
Do you need any help with your projects?
Potentially! I'll probably put out a post asking for help if I need it.
If you could be a horse, would you?
You kidding me? Several ton beasts with the frailty of a sickly Victorian boy; my clumsy ass would never survive.
Are you some sort of...furry?
yeag
Why do you reblog so much?
Brother I LOVE posting. that's just how it is.
Fav music artists?
It changes literally ALL the time but I will recommend ANYTHING by Vylet Pony, its music is incredible and probably the reason I'm a weird niche microcelebrity now.
Why are you like this?
theater kid + having a lot of fun on the internet makes you a bit silly hehe hoo
SUSAN TAXPAYER QUESTIONS
Is it out? Not yet! But hopefully sometime in the next year. I dunno! I take things at my own pace and keep stuff fun. :)
What are you using to make it? SMBX2! It's a free fangame engine for Mario episodes, but it's incredibly versatile and has a wonderful community, so I decided to make Susan Taxpayer in it.
Is there a demo? You betcha! You can find it right here. I'll also probably put it up on my itch.io.
How do I install it? I made a post here about how to run the SAGE '23 demo!
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Tuvok:
Ok, first off: real world standards, he's not normal passing. Apart from the ears, he's just too autistic (sorry, "Vulcan" 🙄) to be considered "normal looking". He went to 1990s earth once and Did Not Pass as normal. But in universe, he would on the surface seem like a model Vulcan. And he is, kinda. But he's also so gd weird. (/aff)
Not even gonna get into how badly he wants to be Will Graham because obviously that's there too but we don't have all day. Anyway.
Obvs the emotions struggle is real as it is for any Vulcan worth paying attention to, if only because they were all only ever written by humans.
But also, tangential to him being Will Graham coded (but still separate enough) he is a total mind slut. You know how some characters will go "when I have a problem, I set it on fire" or shit like that? When Tuvok has a problem, he mind melds with it. Homoerotically if it's an option. Dude even got a mind std one time, despite the fact that's not even a thing.
And then whatever the fuck kinda thing he has going on with Janeway. Not even necessarily in a shippy way ("not romantic, not platonic, so devoted the lines blur") but like... not only is he unreasonably loyal to her but he does shit like not only letting her touch him whenever she wants but *deliberately offering her HIS HAND to hold* to comfort her when she needs it (reminder that hand touching is very intimate to Vulcans and can be likened to human kissing) and again, they're never even stated as romantic or anything, they're just friends and yet he is more loyal to her than he is to his own code of ethics.
Obviously part of all of it could be because Janeway (or possibly Kate Mulgrew) is simply Like That, she does do shit like tell her platonic subordinate "then be a good rat and find us the cheese" in a tone that makes me lose it, but it's not all her, Tuvok is also extremely not normal about it. I should submit Janeway too actually, I'll do her next.
Also, afaik Tuvok is the only crew member of Voyager (who makes it back) who had a romantic partner before the ship got lost in the Delta quadrant and remained loyal the entire seven years they were lost. I *think* Samantha Wildman also did but she's a minor character (so she could've been getting it off screen) and she started out pregnant so once born Naomi both kept her busy and was a living reminder of her husband's love. So in that regard, Tuvok is very much not normal but like in the most positive way. He literally didn't cheat on his wife even when his life was in danger (they *were* out there for seven years so of course he hit pon farr eventually) and I think that's really cool of him. But also very not normal.
I'm very tired rn but once the polls come out, simply check out the blog of Bea @bumblingbabooshka (wanna clarify, I'm not him but he is THE Tuvok blogger in my opinion) who has written much on this already.
There's also the whole stuff that happened around his monestary era but I'm not even at that part yet but it must've been wild.
Anyway. Vote Tuvok
Janeway:
- will literally martyr herself at the drop of a hat
- will kill you if she thinks it's what she needs to do for her crew
- will not kill you if she thinks you've got residue humanity after decades as a borg drone even though realistically she really should've (tho ofc we're all glad she didn't)
- will violate your personal rights if she thinks you're not "human" enough and also compare you to a replicator (yes I'm still salty about that. wait what was the question? right, i'll get back on track)
- will say absolutely deranged shit like "then be a good rat and find us the cheese" in the a tone that makes me lose my mind and basically give everyone a crush on her (and also mommy issues) if they spend too long in her vicinity, leading to a very loyal crew
- her solution to having a crush on a fictional character was to delete his wife (very relatable but also very not normal)
- she wanted to watch hot Q on Q sex (possibly for scientific reasons) and looked very disappointed when it was severely underwhelming
- WHO brings a bathtub on a spaceship???
- there's more but y'know
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CM S15 THEORIES: MASTER POST
This is all about the CM S14 finale “Jeid” plotline thing. These are all my personal thoughts & opinions. They are not the single truth.
SUPER-LONG MASTER POST, SO BARE WITH ME
THE 4 POSSIBLE OPTIONS ABOUT JJs CONFESSION IN S14 FINALE:
1. JJ told the truth during the “Truth or Dare” game, and she really has always loved him & still does (and not just as friends or platonically), and Reid read her “answer” to his own “Truth or Dare” correctly as her admitting that she told the truth. And he was correct.
2. JJ told the truth during the “Truth or Dare” game, and she really has always loved him & still does (and not just as friends or platonically), but Reid read her “answer” to his own “Truth or Dare” incorrectly as her admitting that she lied/exaggerated.
3. JJ lied during the “Truth or Dare” game, and she only loves him as friends, platonically, but she was only trying to trick the unsub, but Reid read her “answer” to his own “Truth or Dare” incorrectly as her admitting that she told the truth when she made the confession, but she didn’t.
4. JJ lied during the “Truth or Dare” game, and she only loves him as friends, platonically, but she was only trying to trick the unsub, and Reid read her “answer” to his own “Truth or Dare” correctly as her admitting that she lied/exaggerated when she made the confession. The awkwardness stemmed from her feeling bad she messed with him, and from him feeling weird about her choice of “truth”, and them both agreeing that its OK... that she used that as a rouse.
Those are the four main options.
POSSIBLE SCENARIOS ABOUT S14 FINALE & FOR S15
In my opinion the fandom reactions rely on two things & based on where you stand on this, you reacted to the plot twist:
a) whether it is possible to love two people at the same time (I think most of us agrees that if we believe it’s possible to love two people at the same time then those loves are a bit different, while both being equally significant, and real.) If it is then it’s possible she loves Will, but also loves Spence.
b) whether you think just thinking about “what if” scenarios & exploring ones feelings for someone else besides your significant other is cheating and/or lying. IMO it’s ok to think “what if I had chosen that other person instead of the one I chose” & it’s OK to explore ones feelings for someone else... if it all stays hypothetical. If it’s just “theorizing” without any action. I don’t consider it in any way cheating or being dishonest to your SO. Hence I don’t see an issue with JJs dilemma. Cause she might have those feelings, and she might consider what her life would be like if she made other choices, but she won’t act on it. And if she won’t, then there is no ”characters ruined”
1. This was all Reid’s (or his mom’s, Diana’s... or someone elses) dream or hallucination. The confession and the end talk (both “Truth or Dare” games and everything around them (the looks between them...etc) was just imagined by Reid... because his old fear of genetics (having the same diagnosis as his mum) has become true, and he’s seeing things. We saw those moments through his eyes, when they actually did not happen...or did not happen the way he “saw” them. In other words: that was not her confessions, and the looks were not what was actually happening. This would also explain why Reid’s mom would be there for him... for continuation of this.
2. This is one of the three or four imagined futures (AU) scenarios that Reid promised to tell JJ about... a little while ago. He was either imagining one of the imagined futures...or telling her about it. And what the scenarios would look like...now... in “current circumstances” (the “what if” scenarios...) This was one of those imagined futures (because it is canon that Reid had a crush on JJ in early seasons (s1) but we only find out that the s14 Finale was a AU in s15. So... none of it is real... the audience is...sort of...playing a game or “truth or lie”...
3. This is the first plot twist in a row of plot twists... there’s a second twist to it. The S14 finale started with Reid being not able to read JJs “poker face”. In other words JJ was able to fool the profiler Reid...just like she did back in S6/S7 during Emily’s death plot. So this is a reverse of that trust-issue plot. Only...this time it is revealed that Reid (who is now carrying 2 guns, including one ankle holster...just like Hotch used to, and who can now easily pass his shooting range test...unlike in earlier seasons...) can do the same, and he did the same.
Back then JJ hid Emily’s survival from Reid & others, now it’s gonna be revealed that Reid hid Maeve’s survival from JJ & others. (Yes, I know... this would not fit with past & would make his mental...state...questionable... cause who would do something like this... but I’d say all bets are off right now...) And her confession makes everything extra awkward because of this, because she had no idea just how late it came, and how complicated things are..to say it now...
4. No matter if JJ either told the truth or lied during the “Truth or Dare” game(s)... (both options work for this), it’s either awkward because of the past (his crush on her in S1, her keeping secrets in s6/s7) and cause she thinks she chose a not-cool “truth” as her lie, and opened up old memories that should be buried, or it’s awkward because they were able to profile each other correctly, and know it’s the truth, so it’s awkward because now they’re aware that they both have always...sort of---had feelings for each other (even though she’s been married & has kids with Will... for the past decade & he “had” Maeve), but they both know they cannot and will not act on them, so it’s awkward because of the “complicated situation”, and this is a "some secrets are better keep secret” thing plot. The bittersweet plot, where they both acknowledge their feelings, and that they other returns the feelings, but it’s awkward and complicated, and bittersweet, because they have missed their moment, and neither of them want to ruin the status quo, so they won’t acton those feelings.
5. Maybe the “poker face” scene in the beginning wasn’t about her being a better liar than he thinks... in the later scene, but is referring to the past - maybe shes been a great actor with her marriage? Maybe JJ has been a better liar than Spence (and the viewers) know? Maybe her house wasn’t being painted back in 4x12 and Will didn’t take the boys to a vacation because of that? Maybe there really have been issues in the marriage? Maybe all hasn’t been as peachy as we’ve thought based on past episodes? I mean... they have done storylines with JJ/Will issues, and though it’s the usual/traditional marriage issues (that they always...seemingly...worked out...at the end of the episode/plot... maybe that was all a show, and they “pretended”, without actually working things out? Cause several times I had the strange feeling that that was not all, and that things weren’t resolved, but every time the plots were dropped, and didn’t lead anywhere, so it made it seem as if it was usual relationship issues... that were worked on & resolved) who knows...
Cause... Will was also acting kinda awkward at the wedding in 14x15? And unless he sensed something or JJ told him something... I found him reaching for her hand...during that line when Emily was giving her speech...kinda awkward. And that was separate from the JJ & Spencer awkwardness (looks and all). Will was completely silent during the wedding (and the boys were missing from the event) and he looked kinda extra “unhappy” (not the correct word, but his usual typical emotionless look seem more emotionless)... so perhaps there really are serious cracks in their marriage? And since according to JJ’s mom it’s their family's tradition to avoid talking about things, then perhaps she has not brought it up, and has just stayed with him... because she’s used to it... plus because of the kids. (while not a good tv trope it is very very common in real life... families stay together... because of the kids and/or to not rock the boat... and TV shows like to use that very real-life behaviour)
This would be for the scenario where JJ/Spence get together (but that would not happen in the s15 premiere, but rather s15 finale... after another possible timejump..IMO), and would be the one scenario where no one involved gets intentionally hurt. The other option would be that Will dies, but IMO that would be weird choice from the writers (it’d leave a bad taste... to have the love confession happen first and then have the “obstacle” aka Will conveniently die...after that...so the twin flames would be able to be together.) And though it’s also very much like what network TV likes to do, I’d prefer if this wasn’t the case.
6. What if JJ told the truth, and she has always loved Spencer... in more-than-a-friend way, but they both know that it would not have worked & that it won’t work now. Maybe this is a way to re-introduce some other “dropped” or “never addressed” plots? Maybe Reid being asexual will be made canon, and this is the way to get there? Maybe they both will agree that there is love between them...always has been, and they acknowledge it. But...since she always wanted a family, and kids, and something different from a relationship, she chose the path she is on. And perhaps this is a way to sort-of give resolution to one of the many “theories” regarding Spencer. (the biggest ones are: that he is asexual & that he is autistic. The first has never been addressed, and the second has been basically denied in canon, when he hasn’t identified with the autistic characters that have been on the show, and instead referred to them as “they” , not “we/people like me”)
7. The most likely scenario is (based on both the past, knowing the characters and their “personality/character”, the s14 finale, and the S15 spoilers) that the truth/lie does make things awkward between them... either because they both know she told the truth...and it’s so “inappropriate” & “award” now... because of her family (husband, kids...)...and maybe because of his secret relationship OR because it was a lie/exaggeration and she feels awkward about making him believe it & he feels awkward about her choosing that untruth. Either way.. they talk about the uncomfortable topic at one point, and agree that things really are too complicated, and though it might have worked out...if things turned out different (if Will never entered the picture...), but now it’s definitely not happening. And that what they have now..instead of romance is so much better and special. The “awkwardness” will be resolved like the “Emily secret in s6/s7″ ... within a few episodes, and all will go back to normal.
8. The s15 new characters spoilers also add several possibilities. The new character having an interesting relationship with Spencer does not actually have to mean traditional romance (even if the spoilers frame it that way). She could be Reid’s mom’s (Diana’s) new caretaker. She could be one of Reid’s students (they could’ve met/could meet) during one of the lectures he gives. She could be the “surrogate” of Reid’s future kid (cause I do not think the show would actually have Reid raising Cat Adams kid... also cause that child has already been born). Cause they have made it a big deal that Spence is great with kids (Henry!) & that he wants kids (even though he fears his genes being passed on). So perhaps he agrees to adopt a pregnant woman’s baby. That way he would kinda get his happy ending, and the relationship would be..”interesting”. But... she could also be introduced & made to be a traditional love interest. In which case.. Reid will find the 2nd love of his life... (Maeve was his first)
One possible way to include Reid raising a kid & bringing back characters from the past (sadly... there is one character we most likely will not see... that’s Hotch... who can only be mentioned, but almost certainly won’t appear on screen) is to bring back Hotch’s son, Jack. And since I don’t think he would come visit the BAU alone, I see only one way: reveal that Hotch has died (maybe some unsub got to him, maybe it’s an accident), and Jack will go to Reid (or Emily, who has also expressed in the past wanting to adopt).... From other past characters I can see only a few making on-screen appearances: Morgan almost certainly (they gotta make schedules work). But I would love for Blake to pay a visit.
THINGS THAT MADE/MAKE ME BE OK/POSITIVE ABOUT THAT PLOT TWIST:
1. If JJ told the truth: That they (the writers, via JJ) acknowledged that things are TOO COMPLICATED now...for such a confession, and for anything to come out of it. If the character hadn’t said/added that, and if the showrunner hadn’t backed that up in the interview regarding the confessions & its aftermath... I’d have issues with it. But the showrunner/writers, the actors, and the characters all are very protective of the characters and their friendship/connection (and their other relationships), so they would want to treat the storyline with respect. And to me this also means that there won’t be any cheating or intentionally breaking up marriages or such things happening. Cause that is OOC for these two.
2. If JJ told the truth: They both (JJ & Reid) have been in so many dangerous situations before, and almost died (life-threatening situations), and they’ve both played “games” with mentally unstable people (Cat Adams, Diane Turner), and they both know the stakes, and that any of those situations could be their last, so her fear might’ve been real, and she might’ve really thought that they would die... (because the 415 unsub wasn’t negotiating and was so unpredictable (he shot a Spences direction, randomly... and neither probably were sure they’d get out alive), and she decided that she wanted him to know... for this to be the last thing she told him (taking us back to S8 & Maeve...and how he had saved saying the three words back to Maeve...for their first in-person meeting...and he never actually got to say... those exact words). So...despite realizing that this ruins everything- their friendship, her marriage (the way they look at each other & the others... even if they don’t act on the feelings), she decided that he should know... in case they don’t make it out alive. And that is very believable and “in character”
So... even if I’d think they’re gonna make Jeid canon (and I don’t think so), I’d be ok with it. I might’ve preferred it done differently, but I've never been against the idea with these two (unlike with Garcia/Morgan...for example... who worked the way they were).
The Will-factor:
I was never a big fan of Will’s. And that might cloud my judgement a bit here, but here are my thoughts on Will and Will/JJ:
Will was originally introduced/brought back as JJ’s love interest because the actress was pregnant IRL, and they decide to write the pregnancy in the show, so JJ needed to have a boyfriend. And despite the character claiming and seemingly being in love with him, I never felt their connection. And the fact that she did not say “yes” right away... and it took a life threatening situation for her to essentially propose to him (I always thought that she acted out of shock, and it was an impulse decision because she thought she’d lost him...but not in away that made her sure this was what she wanted, but in away that she did it out of “fear”) And though they have portrayed her, and their marriage as stable, and made it seem as if her decision wasn’t an impulse one, I never really believed in it.
My biggest issue with Will/their marriage is that I dislike that he “gave up” his job for the family. That he became the housewife...and that he was/is not happy about it. And they have used it as part of the storyline (they always do this with law enforcement character/their SO in TV shows... first on CM was Hotch’s wife, but it has been used for basically every relationship on this show, too) - have him not be OK that she works such long hours, is away from home a lot, and he has to be at home with the kids (with JJ/Will it surprised me that they used it for them, too, because Will used to have the same kind of job, so he should’ve known especially well what it all means, so that’s why I disliked that trope being used for them). Though they kinda gave resolution tho those plots...where he seemingly was OK at the end with his role, I never got the feeling that he is actually OK with it. So... I have disliked some things... and don’t think he’s actually happy, or that she’s actually happy, or that things are as peachy as they seem, or that they’ve really resolved their typical marriage issues. Though every time they have an episode where they bring up the typical marriage issues with these two they do resolve them - they work on them, and find their happy place again...yet... I’ve never been fully convinced things were resolved.
I also think that it’s possible to love two people at the same time (though in a slightly different way). I am uncertain if a person can be in love with two people at the same time, but to me the fact that JJs confession suggests that she’s loved Spence (in more-than-friends way) since S1 (before she met Will, while she’s been in a relationship with Will) does not mean that she hasn’t also loved Will. Cause I believe she did, and does. And her confession also doesn’t cheapen her marriage in any way. Because I don’t see it as her saying “since I am confessing that I have loved Spence since I met him, this means I never loved Will, and my relationship with him is hence a lie”, but just stating a fact. That she has loved her husband...in one way. And at the same time she’s had (suppressed) feelings for Spencer... but for whatever reason she never acted upon them.
The kids-factor:
Yes, Spence is JJs kids god-father and Uncle. And yes, JJ is married and has two kids with Will (she’d have 3 kids, but she lost one during that mission), and yes... kids are involved, so “how could the writers do this plot twist” (this is assuming there was a plan to make Jeid canon in the shows reality/canon universe...and I’m not at all convinced that’s the case) .
But...since JJ specifically said that things are too complicated now to tell Spence about her feelings, and hence things are too complicated now to do anything about those feelings, hence there won’t be any action taken... then why even worry the characters would behave OOC and become cheaters (her leaving her hubby for him, him breaking up her marriage...). Nope, unless it’s revealed there have been marital issues and they were growing apart before and/or if Will dies (cause main characters love interests always get hut in crime shows.... and that is the most likely fate of any such guest character. See: Hailey, Maeve), it’s not happening.
But also... as weird as the kids starting to call their uncle their dad idea sounds, and as unlikable as it is for fans that in such situation the spouse (will) and the kids get hurt and they don’t deserve it... do you really think it’s better to stay together JUST because of the kids. That staying married/together “for the kids sake” is the best solution...for anyone, including the kids? In my personal opinion... nope. I don’t like it as a plot, and I would not like it IRL. Cause I don't think that “staying together for the kids”actually benefits the kids. And since I don’t think JJ/Will would separate unless they had some actual non-Jeid-related marital issues, then I’m not worried about the situation being unfair to Will & the kids.
Having feelings you cannot control. Hence I don’t consider JJ’s confession that she’s loved Spencer while being in love & married & raising a family with Will, as cheating or lying to her family. She’s either repressed those feelings, or never realized them til lately/now. Either way... just thinking about it does not equal acting on it in my book. Since I don’t think that way, I also don’t see this cheapening her character, or her marriage, or this ruining the Jeid relationship or the story so far.
The friendship factor:
I personally have never seen the JJ & Spence relationship as siblings. And just like (based on many online comments) many say it’s weird to view their relationship as romantic (hints of more than friends), for me it’s weird that some people see it as brother/sister (siblings) thing. For me, in canon, it was always about two (very) close friends, whose friendship and connection grew over time. And as typical with such high risk jobs, where your team becomes your family, that connection only deepened over time.
And while I personally never saw anything physical or deeply romantic (traditional sense romantic) between them (yes, he had a crush on her in S1/early seasons), I’d say their relationship is closer to romantic than siblings. For me JJ & Spence are a great example of “platonic soulmates” - a connection deeper than friends, romance, or any other label can define. A relationship that not many get to experience in their lives, and a relationship that not many understand (and confuse with either romance or friendship, but IMO it’s neither... but between/a combination of the two). PS. I, too, think that Spence is asexual & autistic, though that’s just my headcanon, because one has never been mentioned & the otehr has been basically “denied” in canon.
And while I don’t know what exactly Emily/the writers meant with the term “twin flames” (romantic, platonic... partners), I do think these two are connected for life. Their bond is unique and deep (whether you see romance in it, too, or not). These two have always depended on each other, and been there for the other for moral support. I’d even say that she has been in an emotional relationship with him (she’s confided in him...before she’s confided in her own husband...). So..in away... Will is there to provide the family and stability and the physical relationship part, and Spence has kinda been there for her emotional needs. And in my personal opinion (that not everyone shares)..in more than just best friend way. In platonic soulmates way.
And while I’ve not viewed their past relationship (scenes, moments) as romantic, it’s very possible to read that moments that way IMO. (also: as Iäve re-watched some scenes after the s14 finale...now my mind is playing tricks on me & I kinda see “romance” is several of the scenes I did not look this way before. I know that it’s just my mind playing tricks on me, but... the 401 scenes, the 415 opening scene, the s12 prison visit scenes...I see differently now. I cannot unsee it...either. But that’s ok. To quote Reid... I feel like something’s changed... (but yet I don’t think the show will make them canon..)
I think this is a nice way to explore the possibilities, the “what ifs”. The different possible future outcomes. The alternate universes/scenarios. I also don’t think that IF (and that’s a big if) the writers decide to make them canon, then that should make viewers think that male & female characters can’t ever be just best friends (platonic soulmates)... without romantic hints added. Cause... they already added the romance factor back in S1 (even if they dropped it... without ever really bringing it up until s14), and because this very show has several such relationships that never became (or will become) canon - like Morgan/Garcia, and (probably also) Garcia/Luke. So this very show has already shown that those relationships can exist, and that friendship doesn’t always have to be mixed with romance.
The plot-twist factor
I don’t know how anyone can say that this came out of nowhere, and that there were no hints, and zero build-up to this. Caue while there was no “in your face” build-up to the reveal (and if they decide to make them canon at the end of the series, then to the canon ship), there have been hints scattered around throughout s14, and even though Spence’s S1 crush on JJ was kinda dropped/forgotten, and not taken anywhere, then the show did build their relationship, and there has been constant focus on their bond (call it however you want: friends, soulmates, slow-burn romance), so this definitely isn’t something OOC or impossible or non-believable. It might not be the best plot twist idea ever, but it’s not the worst.
The writers knew the show was ending, so they wanted to give resolution to many things from the past: The S1 “date” that was brought up (and finally revealed to us what happened) in S14 premiere, and whether they decide to make the ship canon or not., they wanted to give answers and resolve that storyline. In that sense I like that they decided to explore this, because romantic or not, their bond has been special, and the characters and actors “deserve” to explore it, and it’s nice to get answers and see where it leads (or where it would have lead... if things were different... which is one very likely option on how they’ll deal with this... have Reid tell JJ about his 3 or 4 possible future outcomes in which one of those scenarios Jeid is canon, so we get to explore that AU without ruining the reality)
I also find it very “fitting” that this happened at the end of S14 & at Rossi’s wedding, because it was at the S7 Finale, when Rossi (was the one, who) put together an impromptu surprise wedding for them (after he overheard her asking him to ask her). Also... her S7 Finale proposal & the wedding happened after/because of a high-stress situation, where someone life was in danger and she almost lost him, and the S14 Finale confession happened after/because of a high-stress situation, where someone’s life was in danger. So both those “plot twists”, while both also kinda expected, though maybe not at the precise time & the exact way, have many similarities. There are parallels. On both cases she acted (and revealed her feelings) because she/someone she cares about (almost) died.
I also would not say that this isn’t believable (why now, why this way) or “in character”. Though it did surprise me, too, that they’d go there now... and make this aset up plot twist for their final season...continuing the plot that they basically dropped 14 seasons ago....but Im just surprised/puzzled at this decision, not at all upset. And... the more I think about it, the more I like the idea (especially because I do not think they’ll make them canon, just explore the possibilities...about even if they will make them canon...in the end... I see potential there). I think it’s actually interesting to find out what’s been hidden all these years. And to find out more about the characters...in that way. Cause obviously JJ has “repressed” those feelings for years... and obviously neither has admitted their feelings...possibly not even to themselves. So it’d be interesting to find out what has been in their thoughts - the things we didn’t see when they were happening...
Of course this was done for the cliffhanger reasons. But... I don’t see it just as stirring-.things-up-just.to-.add-dramalama plot twist. I see at as an opportunity to address one of the many previously dropped/unfinished/not explored plotlines, and give resolution. To the characters. To the cast. To the fans. To the storylines. So I actually like that they decided to explore it. And I believe JJ & Reid (the show) will come to the conclusion many of us share.... one that Emily voiced in the s14 premiere. That instead of possible dating/romance they built something even better... and stronger. That their relationship means more as it is than it would if things had gone differently.
The framing of the s14 scenes - both the awkward looks & silence after the “Truth or Dare”game...when they were rescued, and at the wedding (during Emily’s “twin flames” toast & during their private talk, and then the looks after that...) seems to suggest that even though neither would act on them, they both have feelings for each other. Also... Emily’s speech was so much about them, too (twin flames... even if they only get together in distant future or AU). And also... Will and Wll/JJ were super awkward, too. It was as if there was something awkward between them, too. I could not not notice that something seemed strange about them, so I wonder what they’ll do about that...
ETA: And as I’ve stated before... the characters have played mind games with unsubs before. Reid did in 8x12 with Diane turner, and in 12x12 with Cat Adams. And there are many parallels.. especially to the s12 finale. The episode where the words “I cant help but to feel like something’s changed” line was uttered (and maybe there were more layers than the false accusations & prison experience changing Spence... to be “tougher” to it?), and the episode, where the unsub made them “guess” the answer by revealing a “secret”. So yes, they might link this also to that episode/story. (also... what did Spence’s mom tell him over the phone that time when he called her from prison...when he replied with “I Know”?
The S15 SPOILERS factor:
If we’re talking about the other confusing spoilers for S15, and about a possible love interest for Reid, then unless the wording was incorrect, and the spoiler, originally was referring to JJ and the JJ/Reid s15 opener (15x01-15x02) plot... and so on, then can I suggest... bringing back an already introduced past guest character... for the possible plot line and endgame. If it can’t be the biggest fake death plot twist since Emily 6x18 and Maeve didn’t actually die in 8x12, then how about some lovely ladies like Dylan Einstein from 10x14 or the bartender Austin from 4x09, or Det. Angela Pierce from 10x17? I know there was a connection with Lila from 1x18 also, but I personally wasn’t a huge fan...And though there was a “connection” with Cat Adams (she become kinda obsessed with him, but she’s... bad), can’t be her...
But...the s15 spoilers do make it sound as if the S14 finale Jeid-twist is gonna be focus ONLY in the premiere 15x01 - 15x02, and though it’ll have an effect on them also after, then if this is correct, it pretty much confirms that they’re not gonna be canon (they either agree to “hide” their feelings and continue the same...to not ruin her marriage/family, and they just accept that they missed their moment, and it really is too late now... or whatever else plot happens where they don’t get together...) Cause if they’d become canon, I’d say the plot would be the focus throughout the season. Also... Reid’s mom being there for him... being a mother to him when he needs her seems to also suggest that Jeid is not gonna be made canon. Instead every spoiler so far seems to suggest that the plot/reveal will be explored, but nothing will come out of it... really.
Though since it’s still early, and they just started filming S15, and the finale has not yet been written (so there so time to change things..if they want to)... and since spoilers are known to be misleading... this could be the case here, too. I’d say we won’t know until s15 airs. But..right now it does look like the new character is a love interest for reid, and part of his happy ending story.
And the “love interest” spoiler also seems to suggest a different character than JJ. And that also supports the not-gonna-be-canon theory. Though it does surprise me that they’ll try to fit so much into one short 10-episode season. Resolving the S14 finale confession and the Jeid all-series-long storyline, introducing a new (or re-introducing an old??) character and making them have a connection with Reid... that’ll lead to a happy ending within max 10 episodes... (in minimum two episodes, which seems to be possibly all Reid/Max get?) ...which seems kinda not enough for her to be an actual love interest/his future forever. Which makes me think if she is supposed to be a love interest? (well... they did the same with Maeve, and Rossi’s wife Krystal, and Morgan’s wife...) and it’s typical for a TV to get characters from meeting for the 1st time to altar really fast... so I kinda would expect them to do it... though I wish they would’ve done this several seasons before the final one..and made it a slow-pace development. But... I can’t ask for the show to be written according to my preferences.
Either way... there are so many...to many possibilities right now. The writers have made their choice, and chosen the path, but we won’t know which of the scenarios from the many many possible ones will be made canon.
Only one thing is certain: Reid’s character finds his happy ending with a character played by actress with the last name COOK. Cause it’s looking pretty certain that they’re not bringing back any of the “love interests” from the past, so he’s either gonna stay single and happy OR get together with either AJ Cook’s or Rachel Leigh Cook’s character. So... we only know one thing: it’s COOK. But which one... only time will tell. (PS. I find this to be one of the funniest accidental casting parallels! To think online fans freaked out his character was definitely getting together with AJ Cook’s character, and then they cast a different Cook to be the new love interest.)
Either way... I’m with those who say “calm down”. Cause while the possibility of Jeid becoming canon does exist (either in the s15 premiere or S15/series finale... after a timejump), then the probability of that happening is quite slim.
Everything is the past episodes, and everything in the s14 finale, and everything in the s15 spoilers, and everything the showrunner has said in interviews about this whole thing points to them not becoming canon. They might explore this option in an AU/dream scene/episode...as a “what if” scenario, but the showrunner has made it clear that they know the characters, and the characters are not what fans fear..in their core. All the fan fears are pretty baseless, because “him breaking up her marriage/her leaving him to run of with the genius” is not in the characters nature. So... only if Will’s fate is the same as almost every other main characters spouses/love interests (Hailey, Maeve, Strauss) - death... will Jeid happen...IMO. It’s network tv, so I am always prepared for “surprise” options, and wont be upset, but so far everything points to it not happening.
This would apply IF the show would make them canon - a “positive look” at the plot... But as stated I don’t think they will. (but this is written as sort-of something to “calm down” the people, who reacted very strongly at the cliffhanger... as sort of different take... that it doesn’t have to be the “worst case scenario”) But I still think that whether JJ was telling the truth or not... they won’t make Jencer canon. This is just to explore the “what if”-s & give closure to the once-.mentioned/started possibility. Since the show is ending, they are “tying up loose ends”... revisiting old storylines that never went anywhere. And this is their way to honour the special relationship these two characters have. And just like they moved on from the 702 (trust) issues, they will get past this, too, and remain best friends...for life.
THINGS THAT OTHERS HAVE SAID THAT MAKE ME LOOK AT IT MORE POSITIVELY
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THINGS THAT I HAVE SAID ABOUT THE S14 FINALE & S15... BEFORE THIS:
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