#im pretty sure i had something funny to put here but i forgor.
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sharkdays · 8 months ago
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mackmp3 · 4 months ago
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okay so i am listening to tbi again as i write this i was going to do it earlier but didnt for. idk reasons got distracted BUT here i am anyways with my thoughts, so -
obligatory 'old norse mythology' *looks inside* *retrospectively added christianity warping the story* mention cos ahjsgahjgnshnghjengrnfregrhnhrrnnregh. explodes. anyways. you make a really good point about how in modern media, stories are often Very driven by & focused on character dynamics, whereas older stories, up until really quite recently, are often focused more on Plot & Things That Happened, & by extension this makes Loki's role as a trickster god within character dynamics quite complex - because we dont want to see our protagonist doing anything Too Awful or we wont like then & arent invested, But if the story removes things that make loki Actuallu Interesting that it can sort of. fall flat in other ways. like making baldur secretly evil, or alternate universe evil in the marvel comics (taking your word for it i havent read them), is?? a weird choice? like the point of the story, iirc, is that baldur was the specialest golden boy of the universe & everyone loved him & loki thought lol wouldnt it be funny if i got him injured with the only thing that can LMAO (or was it a grudge thing? i forgor :( ). which obviously doesnt work well making her a likeable protagonist in a retelling.
also trickster character lend themselves well to sort of anti hero / rebelling against the system characters, which is probably why reimagining the other gods as tyrants is common & works well - like in the bifrost incident (to my understanding. im not quite sure whats going on in there exactly) even though loki (& sigyn?) have done some pretty bad things its like, welllllllll, the other gods are trying to wreck her cool space train so she's obviously in the right there :). in teh same way how the doctor can commit untold war crimes & he;s still the sympathetic adored protagonist of the show universes specialest guy etc. as long as loki is portrayed to have a righteous cause, which she often doesnt in the myths iirc, she could get away with quite a bit but some retellings kind of...... dont use that
ALSO a while ago i saw a thing saying something like the bits of the thor etc movies where loki is the coolest & most charismatic & most likeable (& most genderWHO SAID THA-), is when he is being the most Problematic, like making people bow before him etc generally causing destruction for funsies, & in parts of the loki show where he literally says 'uhm hi im a narrcissist & im afraid of not being good enough' or whatever he says, it makes him Less Cool because you Want him to be sauntering around causing havoc b/c he can. but they put him in a collar & make him apologise. & then kiss his clone like girl wgat. (i had Thoughts on sylvie as a character but im gonna be honest its been A While since i saw that show so i've mostly forgotten them raghhhh).
but anyways THAT WHOLE THING YOU WROTE IS REALLY INTERESTING /GENUINE you can ramble about loki at me as much as you want hehe :]
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can i talk to you about something norse mythology related which i have been thinking about a lot
YES OF COURsE you definitely can ✨
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