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eyessharpweaponshot · 4 years ago

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hi there!! are there any fics you’re reading right now that you would recommend? i need something good after the season we’ve been given so far 😣

hello there!

I agree, this season has been disappointing - especially considering it’s the last one. but thankfully, our fandom is full of amazing writers that serve us goods regularly. I have so much to recommend, it’s a joke. so prepare for a long fic rec. In no particular order, let’s begin:

1. Chasin’ You - @burninghoneyatdusk

okay. you’re gonna see a bit of a theme with me in these fic recs because the authors I mention are some of my favourites in the world - sam being one of the TOP TIER ones. this fic is a modern au, written about clarke and bellamy as exes (a favourite trope of mine) that have went their separate ways. clarke has moved away and hasn’t kept tabs on bellamy but he's soared to the top as a country star, his hit single being about her and what they had. if there’s any fic from this list you need to start reading, it’s this one.

2. Voices in the Water - @burninghoneyatdusk

It’s the canon version we all wanted. set on earth, clarke’s aunt (nia) forces her into an arranged marriage with king bellamy to unite the clans. but under it all, nia has tasked her to kill him. obviously, as clarke falls in love with bellamy, it’s the one task wanheda probably can’t complete. I'm in love with the imagery and descriptions in this fic. there are honestly some lines that sam writes that I want to frame and put up in my house. absolute brilliance.

3. All Because of You - @burninghoneyatdusk

*sheepishly raises hand* - hi, it’s me again, fangirling over another one of sam’s fics. if you have followed me for a while, either here or on twitter, you’ll have seen me screaming about this fic. I've pulled over while driving to read an update that came through to my email. no lie. I don’t say this lightly but it is definitely in my top 3 favourite bellarke fics of all time. sam DELIVERS with this one. bellamy knocks up his sister’s best friend when they’re both young and they grow together in raising their daughter. this fic flashes between present and future in the most seamless way and we see how in love they were back then but too scared to admit it, combined with how in love they are now that they are mature and older - but yet can’t seem to take the leap. I can’t tell you enough how good this fic is. I'm in love and it’s one of those fics that I would happily have as a book on my bookshelf, the pages worn and falling out from the amount of times that I re-read it.

*I just want to note that sam is doing a fantastic job at running @bellarkefic-for-blm. This is an opportunity for the bellarke community to directly support the Black Lives Matter cause through reading and writing fanfiction. For every fanfiction prompt a participating writer receives, they ask that you donate to an organization that supports the BLM cause. This initiative includes non-bellarke the 100 ships and requests for other content (e.g. gif sets, icons, moodboards, fanart). please check them out and request a prompt (this also includes updates for the above mentioned fics)*

4. Count Your Teeth - @icantloseyou-too

let me tell you, you guys will be well fed after reading this fic. It’s one of the most original idea’s and we get so much bellarke and the blake siblings in this one. bellamy is a treasure hunter and married to clarke, after leaving his thieving days behind him. that is until his past comes knocking and drags him back into that world again - and clarke along with him. absolute chefs kiss!

5. Cups and Sorcerers - @icantloseyou-too

again, such a unique plot with just the right amount of fluff. clarke is a witch who owns a coffee shop and she ends up meeting someone just as unique as her. I’m invested in this to an embarrassing degree and it always puts me in a good mood when this fic is updated. such a light and heart filling read and ciara does a fantastic job of world building in this fic.

6. Paint me in Trust - @pawprinterfanfic

I'm sure this fic needs no introduction. everyone and their mother has heard of it and if you haven’t read it yet, believe me, you’re missing out. a harry potter au that runs alongside the last few movies without being involved with the main characters. essie manages to make an already existing world so different, thrilling and gripping. it emotionally upends you and takes you along for the ride without any intention of letting you off. I'm just in love with it and rightly so!

7. When the Wolves Come Home - @pawprinterfanfic

I don’t know how people aren’t RAVING about this fic more because I certainly am. it’s massive for me to even say this because I love all of essie’s work but it’s my favourite fic that she’s written. I can’t describe the feeling I get when I read how she’s written bellarke in this. it’s a percy jackson au but you don’t need to have knowledge of that world to enjoy this. I actually started reading the books because of this fic. essie writes it so well and incorporates a lot of fantastic elements from greek mythology while also keeping me on the edge of my seat with bellarke’s journey. HERE FOR IT ALL THE WAY.

8. I’ll Find You in the Morning Sun - @cominguproses13x

I’ve never seen a fic talked about as much as this one. with 60 chapters, it’s bound to satisfy any hunger you have for bellarke. it’s set in a post apocalyptic world and it is beyond a shadow of a doubt, my favourite setting to read bellarke in. I've actually stopped reading this fic on chapter 5 because im currently writing my own post apocalyptic au as it was a trope on my bingo card and I don’t want any subconscious spill over, but I fully intend on reading the rest of the fic in one go once my fic is published and done. it deserves all the praise and hype.

9. For Blue Skies - @kombellarke

kayla’s fics make me actually weep. her writing style is just unbelievable and she sucks me into stories so fast. this one is no different. I live and breathe for bellarke as exes and this fic is one of my favourites. it’s a modern au with clarke as a mother and she cascades back into bellamy’s life without warning. perfect angst and anticipation. in love.

10. Love Like Fools - @talistheintrovert

the way I love talis with my whole heart. I'm always obsessed with her fics and the way this one was written was just magnificent. enemies to friends to lovers, roommates, angst, emotional comforting? SIGN ME UP. the perfect mix of all of those and I felt so good after reading this. always a fan.

11. It Had To Be You - @useyourtelescope

I had the honour of pre-reading some of this fic before it was published and I felt so privileged. a regency au with a prank war sprinkled in? perfection. hana honestly writes this so beautifully and I can’t recommend this enough. it’s so unique and we are all so incredibly lucky that there’s something in the bellarke fic world for everyone.

12. Veni, Vidi, Vinci - @carrieeve

Again, proof of the pudding that there’s something in fic for everyone. I’ve never read one like this before and it THRILLED me. murphy and bellamy working together to steal a Vinci? it was the fic I never knew I needed. the bellarke interaction in this was beautifully written and I am just completely obsessed. we really struck gold with the bellarke big bang works this year.

13. A Twist of Fate - @queenemori

let’s be honest, soulmate au’s are always wanted and needed in this fandom and kara does an excellent job of serving us this one. we got some team cockroach in here along with some top tier quality bellarke. what more could you ask for? if you haven’t read this fic yet, you need to. so thankful for kara being the absolute gifted babe that she is.

14. Power Over Me - @sparklyfairymira

okay, if you recently watched the witcher on netflix like I did, believe me, you NEED to read this fic. if you haven’t watched the witcher, this fic will make you want to watch it. the smut in this, the plot, the WRITING. absolutely phenomenal. have I mentioned how lucky we are to have such fantastic writers in this fandom?

15. There’s a Serpent Lying Deep Down in These Still Waters - @shaeheda

post apocalyptic au? SIGN ME UP. bellarke thrown together in unkind circumstances? SIGN ME UP. this magnificent human writing a fic? SIGN ME THE FUCK UP. I'm so in love with this fic already and I haven’t even finished it yet. as I've said, I've stopped reading fics in this genre until my own is completed but I’ve read enough to tell you that this needs to be on your next to read list. forever in awe of the talent here and this fic makes me feel so lucky to be part of something so great.

I hope this satisfies you for a while and that you enjoy all the bellarkey goodness that comes from these fics. I'm gonna drop some of mine below because why not? just in case you’re in need of something more.

1. I Found Peace in Your Violence

clarke griffin has it all. she’s popular, an artistic prodigy and has a wealthy family to boot. so when her perfect world comes crashing down around her, it’s time to sink or swim. she tests positive for the Homicidal Tendency Syndrome gene, also known as the kill gene. clarke is plucked from her comfortable life and placed into a school with people just like her - carriers, delinquents. when she meets bellamy blake there, he looks like everything they say HTS carriers are. a monster, a criminal. yet, he’s the one who protects her.

2. I Am Lost This Time

a void!bellamy fic that we all deserved to have happen in canon. an au where bellamy hears clarke’s radio calls from earth, sees her memories in m-cap and where she really is the key: the one that unlocks his memories and brings him back to her.

3. Purple, Blue, Orange, Red

bellarke are childhood friends and teenage lovers, reuniting in the midst of the same grief that tore them apart.

4. Devil Side

post apocalyptic setting and my favourite fic to have ever written. both of them coming together to survive and protect those in their family, including two small children. bellarke started out as strangers, who would have thought that they’d end up co-parenting in the middle of a world that is too dangerous to survive out in the open?

5. Waste It on Me

a soulmate/reincarnation au that I wrote based off my own breakup and feelings. probably my most popular fic and should keep you going in terms of bellarke feels.

#bellarke #the 100 #bellarke fanfiction #bellarke fic rec #fic recommendations #jensfic #eyessharpweaponshot #wonderful writers #wonderful fics

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stormcrawler75 · 5 years ago

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if it hasn't been done yet (re the bad things happenbingo) could I ask for either amputation or damaged wing(s) with Remus please? I love what you've done with the prompts so far

Warnings: Amputation, hospitals, diseases, talk of surgery.

Characters: Remus, Patton, mentions of Roman, Logan, Virgil, and Janus.

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Hospitals smelt like absolute, sterilized shit.

Remus couldn’t fucking stand hospitals. Just the smell alone made Remus want to stay far away from hospitals for his entire life. Like, Remus got it. The people who worked there saved lives and the world would probably die without them. But Remus really hated hospitals. Maybe the problem was that they didn’t get enough money? Or that usually only shitty things happened at hospitals? Or maybe because of how many times Remus had been in one recently and he had only gotten shitty fucking news?

Whatever. No matter the reason, hospitals were still at the top of Remus’ shit list at the moment.

Plus, the gowns were itchy. Though, that might just be Remus’ opinion. He currently had one tied around in and was lying in a bed, waiting impatiently for the stupid kiddie clock - which was actually pretty cool because it was shaped like an octopus - hung on the opposite wall to hit three o’clock. Remus was so ready for this to be over with so he could go back home. Roman had promised to make whatever he wanted for dinner when Remus came back and Remus was so craving pancakes with cheese sauce.

Remus sighed and glanced over at his Dad, who was sitting next to him and reading a battered old Highlights magazine. “How much longer,” he whined, giving Patton his best pout. “We’ve been waiting here forever!”

“We’ve been waiting here for two hours, Sweetie,” Patton said gently, putting the magazine down on his knee. He glanced at the clock hanging opposite from them. “Well, it looks like you only got about twenty more minutes to go, Hon. Are you nervous?”

The question had been asked so many times by so many people lately that Remus could barely manage a scoff. “Me? Nervous? Nah, not at all! Hey, it’ll be pretty cool, if you think about it!” He forced a gasp and grabbed Patton’s wrist. “Do you think they’ll film it? Could I watch it later!?”

Patton laughed and shook his head fondly. “I don’t think so, Kiddo. But I’ll ask your doctor, okay? But if we do get it then no showing your siblings, okay? Especially don’t let Virgil catch you watching it, he would have nightmares for weeks. He’s already so worried about today.”

Remus’ jaw clenched at the memory of his two-year-old brother sobbing just a few hours ago and trying to cling to Remus’ hand. Virgil hated hospitals just as much as Remus and, unlike Remus, he didn’t have the maturity and wisdom that Remus had to understand why he hated them or remember just how long he had spent there as a baby. “He doesn’t have any reason to worry,” Remus spat, hating the pit of fear that was growing in his gut. “The doctors said that this is the best option for me and even if I’ll have to do therapy and stuff, I should be just fine.”

“Oh, Honey, he’s only a toddler, he doesn’t understand what’s happening,” Patton said gently, taking Remus’ hand and squeezing it. “All he understands is that his big brother is in pain and is going away to a scary place and is going to come back without one of his legs. He’s much too young to know what osteomyelitis is.”

“I’m fourteen and I don’t even fully understand what this stupid disease is,” Remus muttered, crossing his arms. So many people had tried explaining it to him and all Remus fully understood was that some stupid fungi had injected his right leg bone and they had caught it so late that amputation was the only option. “But I know that he shouldn’t be worried. It’ll be fine and he didn’t need to be crying so much. Logan and Roman weren’t crying.”

And, no, Remus wasn’t disappointed that Logan and Roman - old enough to understand what was happening - didn’t cry like Virgil had or looked worried. Not that there was any reason to be worried but it would’ve been nice for them to pretend to be worried!

Patton squeezed his hand again, looking down at him sympathetically. “Trust me, kiddo, they were crying plenty last night. Logan’s been looking up the operation ever since he learnt what you have and Roman is so scared about his twin. They were trying to be strong for you, that’s-”

“But there’s no reason to be worried,” Remus cried, throwing out his arms in frustration. “There isn’t, I’m going to be fine and there’s no reason for anyone to worry!” His eyes were filling with sudden tears and his jaw trembled with the force of keeping them back. “I-I’m gonna come home and annoy everyone a-and t-they don’t need to worry ‘bout me cause I am gonna be f-fine!” He sobbed and pressed the palms of his hands into his eyes, images of all the things that could go wrong flashing through his mind.

Arms wrapped around his shoulders and pulled him forward until he was leaning against his dad’s chest. “Shhh, shhhh, you’re okay, you’re going to be okay,” Patton cooed, rubbing a hand up and down Remus’ back. “You’re gonna be fine, kiddo.”

“They’re gonna take my leg,” Remus sobbed, gripping Patton’s shirt so tightly that his knuckles were turning white. “D-don’t let them take my leg, don’t let them, Papa!”

“Oh, Kiddo,” Patton sighed, resting his cheek on the top of Remus’ head and holding him close. “Sweetheart, I wish I could stop them from taking your leg. If I could, I’d take this infection and put it in my own leg so you wouldn’t have to lose yours. But I can’t, Sweetie, and I’m so sorry. And I know this is very scary but I’ll be right outside the room the entire time. And I’m going to buy you the best prosthetic that money can buy, I promise.”

Remus sniffled and he rubbed at his eyes, looking up at Patton sadly. “O-one with some design?”

Patton gave him a wobbly smile and nodded, kissing Remus’ forehead. “I’ll buy you two. A plain one and one with any design that you want on it. We’ll do it together, okay baby?”

“Okay,” Remus sniffled, leaning back against Patton and closing his eyes. “...How long now?”

“...Two minutes.”

Remus’ breath hitched and he fought back the urge to vomit. It’d be hilarious but then they’d have to wait even longer for this surgery to take place. “I’m scared,” he admitted softly. “I’m so scared, Papa.”

“I’ll be right outside the surgery room and I’ll be right there when you wake up,” Patton promised softly, sounding like he was holding back tears. It made Remus want to dig a hole in the ground and cry. He was making his Papa cry. “And as soon as the Doctors say you’re ready, we’ll go home and see your brothers and Uncle Janus, okay?”

Remus sniffled and nodded, wiping away the tears trailing down his cheeks.”Okay,” he whispered. He let out a shaky breath and forced a smile. “It’ll be okay.”

“Remus?” The two of them turned to see a Doctor and a Nurse waiting for them. “We’re ready for you.”

Remus glanced at Patton nervously and got a confident smile in return. “You’ll be okay,” Patton said, looking so sure that he might as well had been saying that the sky was blue. “I’ll be right next to you when you wake up, okay?”

“Okay,” Remus said softly, turning to the Doctor and Nurse. “I’m ready.”

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dontshootmespence · 4 years ago

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Through It All

Part 21

Summary: Now married, Spencer & Y/N navigate the D/s lifestyle. How will their relationship change?

Words: 1,153

Warnings: Biting, biting, biting. P in v. Little bit of oral. Come

A/N: This is my next entry for @cm-kinkbingo run by my beautiful girlfriend @heycasbutt. This fulfills my odaxelagenia square.

Miraculously, Charlotte is still asleep. Strips of sunlight, interrupted by the blinds on the windows, blanket your bare skin in morning warmth. It’s blinding you, but you’re too comfortable and melted into the sheets and Spencer’s embrace to move, instead choosing to close your eyes against the light.

Spencer breathes steadily, his head cradling into the back of your neck and for a few minutes you revel in the silence before he gently stirs behind you. “Mmmorning,” he mumbles, playfully squeezing one of your boobs. “Love these.”

“What, boobs? Or nice, relaxing mornings?” Turning your back against the sun, you arch yourself into Spencer’s arms and tip your head up, kissing the underside of his chin. He’s got a little bit of stubble because he hasn’t shaved in a few days, but you happen to like him with some scruff. When he palms your breasts again, you laugh.

“Both,” he insists. “But I meant these. Always been a boob man. And an ass man. You can’t make me choose.”

You love it when he gets all rambly, just allowing himself to be. Because you know that everything he’s saying is unbridled and real and raw. For years, he hadn’t allowed himself to be that way, and according to him, you were one of the only people he’d ever granted the privilege. “Charlotte still asleep?” He asks.

“Yup. Thank the gods she sleeps through the night now.” A thought re-enters your brain from the night before, and honestly the night before that. Nearly a month now. “Hey, Spence, you awake enough for a talk? Like a family talk?”

Spencer’s eyes pop open and a small smile cracks across his face. “Yea, what’s in that beautiful head of yours?” Sitting up, he pushes himself against the pillows and gathers you to his chest.

You swallow against the lump in your throat. He’s your fucking husband, so you don’t know why you’re so nervous. “You’ve always wanted more than one kid, right?”

“Yea,” he says, trailing off, a hint of a smile in his voice.

Muscles shake softly as your heartbeat races. “Do you think we’re ready for another? I’ve always wanted our kids to grow up together. Not a lot of years between them, you know?”

Spencer places his index finger underneath your chin and guides you to look at him. “Me too,” he replies. There’s that hunger in his eyes again. Even though you have dark circles under your eyes that look like they’re packing on vacation and stretch marks galore, he still looks at you like you’re the center of the universe. “Did you want to be pregnant again? Or adoption?”

Adoption had been discussed in the past. “I’m not sure just yet. I mean, I did love being pregnant with Charlotte, but my body went through a lot. And I always wonder about kids out there looking for a home, you know?”

“We don’t have to decide just yet,” he replies, nibbling gently on your shoulder. Goosebumps start to form on your skin as Spencer’s fingers ghost up and down your arms. He presses his lips to your shoulder and slowly starts kissing and nibbling up the side of your neck. “If Charlotte’s still asleep, maybe we can…?”

Chuckling under your breath, you turn toward him and place your knees on either side of his, straddling him and pinning his hardening cock in between your stomachs. You wrap your arms around his neck and lean into him, grasping his bottom lip between your teeth. He groans at your roughness, his earlier mischievousness dissolving into something much more feral.

Hands graze up and down your back, fingernails gently scraping at your skin. You arch into him and tug hard at his bottom lip. When his eyes fly open again, they’re dark with need. “Get on your side,” he instructs, his voice a mixture of needy and early-morning husky.

Quickly, you flip over to your side into the mattress and lift your leg without Spencer even having to ask. With roughened palms, he pulls it back and grunts into your hair as he lines his cock up at your entrance. Every time, it’s like coming home. Everything feels right.

“Fuck, Spence.” You bite your lip and whine at the stretch. “Just like that.” Thrusting back onto him, you curl into yourself and grab his free hand, pulling it under your body placing it over your mound. “Finger your little pussy while you fuck me. Mark me.”

Spencer growls into your neck and grazes his teeth along the side, licking at your pulse point before biting down. You can feel his teeth push into your skin, his tongue rolling over the reddening skin to soothe it as he bucks into you. “Fuck, you get even tighter when I do this. You like being marked?”

That’s the understatement of the century.

Unable to form words, you respond by squeezing around him with each pass, rolling your hips against his sweet assault. But it’s not enough. You need him deeper and harder and faster. More. More of everything.

Words fail you. No instructions emerging. Instead, you pull off him frantically and turn around, pushing down against his shoulders so you can straddle him instead. “Need to fuck you.” He holds himself steady so you can slip back onto his length, moaning at the fullness from this angle.

Leveraging the strength in your knees, you move up and down on his length and grab his hair. “Watch.”

Spencer lets out a guttural moan that makes you smile. Makes you want to fill the air in the room with nothing but his groans. “Fuck, Y/N. Get over here.” Grabbing you by the back of the neck, he pulls you down flush against him and bites at your neck as you bounce your ass up and down.

With each pass, you change the rhythm, tighten yourself around him. You pull out any and every trick in the book to get him to bite harder, lose control. When his teeth bring that bit of pain that you’re looking for, you cry out and impale yourself on him, shaking and trembling before you quickly push back and take him in your mouth. The second your lips wrap around him he comes, pushing down on your head and sheathing himself in your throat.

Smiling, you swallow and pull off him with a satisfying pop. And as if on cue, you hear Charlotte start to stir. “I got it babe,” you laugh. “Try and calm yourself down before I get back.”

He laughs and pushes his hands through his hair. “That’s gonna be difficult.”

After a couple hours of tending to Charlotte’s needs and getting ready for your day outing with the BAU, you dress strategically, popping your jacket collar and fixing it so that no one else will be able to see the marks he left on you.

That’s just for you.

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awfullyaster · 4 years ago

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andrew and neil are switches, don’t you forget it

ok hi here for my (probably) daily aftg rant,,,,so i’m seeing that the majority of the fandom (as far as i’ve seen anyway)--or fics/fanart consisting of andreil doing the do--view neil as a power bottom ?

am i incorrect? are my resources false? idk bout u but so far i’ve only seen like one fic where neil is the top/penetrator (!mao is that even a real word idk but it sounds weird haha cute ok anyway)

and honestly, i have to disagree. i do. i’m not trying to push andrew’s boundaries by saying that neil could top, i’m just saying that y’all don’t give neil enough credit.

liek,,,,,bro,,,,,do you not see the amount of top energy neil mf josten radiates ???? like, yes, we know andrew takes the lead but it doesn’t necessarily mean he’d top forever ?????

( just a proposition, ofc but this is just my opinion based on observations--yet again )

( and tbh i had difficulty trying to figure who was the top and who was the bottom between them when i encountered the first hint of intimate growth in their relationship--to the point where i had to ask my best friend who hadn’t a clue what aftg was prior to (that’s when the aftg rants officially started/ignited) and it took some time/proper discussion/consideration but he first came up with the conclusion that andrew was a sub top and that neil was a power bottom )

as for yours truly, i came to the conclusion that they are both switches (some time after i finished reading).

i mean,,,,,,can you really just look at neil josten--wholly, like his entire personality, attitude (problem !), traits, &c and decide on the spot that he’s a bottom ??? how ??? how the hell do you come up with that ?????

and hear me out, i have evidence/reasons:

one) The Great Riko Roast™️. need i say more?

(if elaboration is necessary:

keep in mind that neil (this literal fucking nobody) burned riko (supposedly the king of exy or whatever the fuck, who cares) to ground on the spot (no script, just his attitude problem (mwah i love him) and pure spite)

again, he burned him to the ground on live television, publicly humiliating riko with each and every word

idk bout u but i am so damn sure andrew found out right then n there that this bitch radiates top energy for fucking sure (or, in his words, isn’t spineless)

neil committing arson via verbal attacks is just---splendid. absolutely mesmerizing. flawless. truly inspiring. gamechanging. glorious.

he’s so rude i love him

anyway )

two) neil can shut up andrew up without having to touch or kiss him. he can leave him speechless. with just his words.

(yes, we know anybody & everybody knows better than to touch andrew but like i mean he wouldn’t have to fight him or whatever) (and he doesn’t have to kiss him to shut him up--though he definitely can--he doesn’t have to because that’s just how fucking powerful he is)

y’all,,,,,are you ready for one of the most amazing lines i believe we all know and love,,,,,

““You have a problem wherein you only invest your time and energy into worthless pursuits."

“This,” Neil flicked his finger to indicate the two of them, “isn’t worthless.”

“There is no ‘this’. This is nothing.”

“And I am nothing,” Neil prompted. When Andrew gestured confirmation, Neil said, “And as you’ve always said, you want nothing.”

Andrew stared stone-faced back at him.

[...andrew had his hand frozen mid-air...(i forgot the rest)]”

if this does not prove dominance to you, i don’t know what to tell you. (HE WAS MERELY SPEAKING AND ANDREW COULD NOT COME UP WITH ANYTHING-- A N Y T H I N G --TO SAY BACK BC IT’S A PERSONAL ATTACK AND HE DIDN’T SEE IT COMING AND THAT’S WHY HE SEES NEIL AS INTERESTING/WHY HE ‘HATES’ HIM SO MUCH BRO I)

hOweVeR

i know that dom bottoms exist (i think so, anyway) or bottoms that radiate top energy/the position (i.e. bottom,top) energy you radiate can be entirely different from what position you really are/are comfy with and that these are just words but that brings me to my following point,

three) (#1 insitgator, he, oh yes, neil josten, yes indeed) his unexpected (and to be frank, quite thrilling) acts of asserting dominance ?????? um ????

(when they were kith kithing next to the kitchen (next to kitchen) in neil’s dorm room) “[neil felt his phone buzz in his back pocket and against the wall it was obnoxiously loud. he already knew it was his daily countdown, but he already knew how much little time he had left. he didn’t need to reminded, especially now...andrew took it out of his back pocket and offered it to neil, pulling away from his mouth. neil took the phone from andrew’s hand and threw it across the living room, not taking his eyes off andrew. andrew watched as the phone bounced off the couch and onto the carpet. neil kissed his neck in attempt to distract him and was rewarded by a startled jolt which was enough reason to do it again. and even though andrew pushed his face away, they were close enough for neil to not miss how andrew shivered.]”

b r o ,,,,,,,,,,,, bro,,,,,,it just--

(when they were alone in the bus otw to that one away game--belmonte, i think?) “[“i wonder when coach found out about this,” neil prompted.

“there is no ‘this’.”

“i wonder when coach found out you only want to kill me ninety-three percent of the time.”

neil retraced his steps and had a moment of realization. before andrew left for easthaven, neil had told andrew to trust him and not ‘neil’.

“it was before you left,” neil started...

“coach doesn’t believe what other people want him to believe, he believes what he sees,” andrew replied...

“are you going to tell them?” neil was referring to the rest of the team, and this was up to him, whether they’ll be out or not.

“i won’t have to. renee says the upperclassmen are betting on your sexuality.”

neil knew that matt mentioned that there were bets on about him, but he didn’t know it was about this.

“it’s a waste of time and money. they’ll all lose. i’ve said all year that i don’t swing and i meant it. kissing you doesn’t make me look any of them differently. the only one i’m interested in is you.”

“don’t say stupid things.”

“make me.” and with that, neil grabbed a fistful of andrew’s hair and pulled him in.]”

dude,,,,,,,,,he can take control,,,,,he can,,,,he can lead, too, but he follows andrew’s because he’s a good boy and he knows how important it is. he improvises and uses what he has and takes control from there. dude. dude.

three) honestly? i think andrew likes it. neil’s unexpected acts of confidence,,,kinda leaves him on the edge of his seat yk,, like doesn’t it increase his percentage? it does, right? cuz ik it did when andrew guided neil to touch his chest and neil emulated andrew’s words, “i won’t be like them. i won’t let you let me be.” (i love them bye) but liek,,,,yeah idk andrew liking neil’s neck kisses/fetish kinda tells me he likes it so maybe this isn’t concrete evidence particularly but i’m still including it because andrew’s a switch, idc what anyone says,

four) i lost my train of thought but i ran out of reasons--on the spot, anyway--so i might come back to this if i do but just to make it clear:

andrew minyard is a switch. (it just takes time, like a lot, but it doesn’t mean it’s necessarily impossible/never gonna happen.)

neil josten is a switch. (he respects andrew’s boundaries and doesn’t push him, he’s fine being guided, but it doesn’t mean he can’t take the initiative himself (and i forgot to mention it but re: when he asked andrew if he doesn’t like to be touched in general or if it’s a trust thing + many more times, before & after their first kiss, i believe, my brain is just empty rn) and i just think that deserves more recognition)

so !!

(this post is a mess, (i always am but today’s just worse) i know, and i’m sorry)

in conclusion,

let neil top andrew !! they deserve it !!

(not that vice versa is bad, but this isn’t either, yk, just saying. also, i hope this isn’t too late to say in the post, but i do not, i repeat, i do not, intend to pressure any content creator--fic writers, fan artists, editors, &c--to create content this particular way only,,,,okay,,,gotta make that unequivocally clear. and i’m not saying andrew topping neil is bad or overrated, because i know that when it comes to them, sex in general would take some time, especially neil topping andrew, but i think they deserve that freedom, yk. again,,,,this is just my personal opinion. no insisting statements here, just wish for freedom to speak my mind, that is all. also feel free to interact if you agree/disagree or both !! i’m willing to hear anyone’s comments or thoughts or whatever !! i hope i’m talking to a brick wall here ahah)

bro brain poop rn

anyway

tl/dr: bro let neil top (not necessarily on top, but that works, too--either/or--or both, if y’all dare ;DD (kill me) (but like srsly) (let neil top) (plz) :))

(also somewhat off topic but might anyone have access to some fics in which consist of neil first getting andrew off ??? i randomly remember it from ms. sakavic’s extra content page and i would like to see what the fandom offers, if y’all don’t mind)

im so mean and insistent on my aftg-related opinions now that i think about it

whoops

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librarygf · 4 years ago

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this is maybe a ramble but since we've had a few days since the finale i've been thinking about how shameless as a whole show hasn't ever really been interested in giving its characters simple happy endings. like maybe im forgetting something but i feel like no character that has left has just had like a simple "and that's that :)" type ending. even the more positive endings are still way open-ended, and then a lot of characters were sort of written off and left in bad places/no real resolution. so i definitely get why people wanted more storyline resolution from the finale but i also just feel like that's not in the writers' interests. tbh the only ones who got their real happy ending were ian and mickey, and that only came after the writers tried to give them a bunch of not so happy endings and were yelled at by the fandom so much that they gave in (which john wells basically admitted to in that post finale interview lmfao). i think it's kind of a 2 sided issue where on one hand as a TV show you want to see all these characters and plots resolved, but since shameless has always wanted to come off as more "real" than other shows they were never gonna wrap things up easily, because real life isn't wrapped up easily. imo, it can also be more fun this way because it leaves so much open to imagine and we can still think about these characters living and messing up and being happy in the future, but i also get why people were disappointed or frustrated. idk, i was just thinking about this and i would love to hear your thoughts!

hmm i’m sort of conflicted on this whole thing bc on one hand i really don’t mind an open ending, and actually prefer it to a “ten years in the future” kind of thing, but i also think there’s a way to do an open ending right. in general i just think that what was lacking from this finale was a sense of thematic closure on what this show has been about, and even on the season itself. (more under the cut)

in my dream world, i would’ve liked ian and mickey’s sl to more specifically round up on their year as a married couple, and their ten year long relationship, which to be fair only requires a few tweaks bc their ending was the best one. most of all though, i would’ve liked frank’s death to inspire some reflection on the characters’ history and the fact that frank hasn’t ever been the core of their family (or the show), bc it’s always been about the family trying to survive together (this is also what i think them all moving apart should’ve made them reflect on). in a concrete sense they could’ve used that to resolve the lip and debbie conflict, or even better to make lip re-evaluate his decisions about the house - perhaps even to inspire him to get out of his self-pitying rut, and either re-evaluate his priorities and realize he wants to focus more on the good parts of his life and his son, contrary to who frank is, or take action to get help or get a job, sort of like we saw him go to aa at the end of 7x12

in general i think 7x12 is a good example of what they could’ve done, bc it also opens a bunch of new possibilities, but it uses monica’s death and funeral to remember the pain these characters have gone through, but the joy they’ve found with each other too, which i think is the core of the show. so i don’t think it needs to be picture-perfect - for example i like that lip doesn’t end up achieving success in a traditional sense, but finds joy in other ways - but i also think it’s a false dichotomy to think that an ending that’s “real” (or an ending that’s open-ended) and an ending that’s satisfactory are opposites

it had the bones i think, and that’s why it’s disappointing. it had frank’s death, which could’ve been a catalyst for the family reflecting on their history together. it had the anniversary, which was a perfect set-up for ian and mickey to reflect on their experience with married life. and it had the parallel of the party scene at the end which could’ve felt really poignant with just a few tweaks

anyway i’m definitely happy with where ian and mickey ended up, and i like imagining what’s next. i also didn’t really expect this finale to be good lmao, so i wasn’t surprised. but i do think it could’ve been possible for them to write something “real” and open-ended that would’ve still done more to return to the core of the show, which is the family surviving together. but i don’t think it successfully did that

#em answers #and yeah obviously someone like karen or sheila were just kicked off without a perfect ending but that's very different #it wasn't the ending of the show #and i do think they could've done something better bc even fiona's ending is #like it's so rushed but her story rounds off understanding how much she's sacrificed for her family #and it acknowledges her relationship to frank #and it sends her off to something unknown but you still have thematic closure #i mean it's still a mess and happening too quickly but they make a better attempt i think #and this finale just really lacked that sense of the history of the show #anyway this is the longest thing i've written on here ever sdfghj no that's probably a lie #but it was nice to write my thoughts out actually hmm

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theouterbankpogues · 5 years ago

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kie and jj (+pope) after the movie night fight in episode 4

hehe first piece of ff for this fandom! excited and ready for all the slow burn, angst and character development. let’s all pray for that s2, but until then, here’s a little fic! any love is so greatly appreciated :))

pope decides to head back home after the fight and get some sleep because he has too much anxiety to stay in figure 8 after what happened with topper, rafe and kelce. after driving pope back home, kie decides to drop jj off until she realises how badly he’s bruised. what i imagine the rest of the night looked like for jj, pope and kiera

author : theouterbankpogues aka vi

fandom : kie x jj | outer banks on netflix

tags : mostly fluff

warnings : none

kie, pope and jj get back onto the mini-van and the adrenaline causing her heart to beat in her ears starts to subside

she’s starts the engine, despite the pain, bruising and soreness setting in, pope and jj can almost feel her anger from the driver’s seat

“what the fuck did you do to them you assholes? you almost died tonight, are your egos as fucking big as your will to die? what the fu-”

“those damn kooks beat up pope with their golf clubs kie! were we just supposed to fucking take that?” “what the fuck did you say?”

the air got tense suddenly, kie’s anger seemed to shift, she pulled the brakes and the mini-van came to a halt underneath a flickering lamp post

she looked backed at them, her expression had softened; pope took it as an invitation to continue “i was just doing the delieveries for my dad and they ambushed me, said ‘no pogues on this side of the island’” he drew out a long sigh, “i was tired kie, tired of them always fucking winning, always getting the best of me”

“we sank the boat, topper’s new stupid wavesetter”

kie was quiet for what seemed like forever, pope and jj seemed to nervously glance at each other without knowing what else to do

“oh you absolute fucking justified idiots” she couldn’t help but leap out of the front seat and pull them both into a hug, she seemed to let go of a breath she didn’t even know she was holding

after a string of moans and chuckles, she let them go, “the security cameras were out right?” “we think so” “you think so? god jj i swear-”

“don’t worry okay, they were out... theY were oUT!!”

she slapped them both across their non-bruised arms (she checked) and at the cue of their strangled string of curses, started driving again; “do y’all want to stay over at my house? i could sneak you in, it’s late and i just don’t want y’all to be alone right now.”

pope and jj couldn’t be more thankful for kie sometimes, but for pope, today wasn’t one of those days; ‘nah kie, i need to get home, i just need some sleep in my own bed, one that’s no where close to where those kooks imagine coming. i almost died tonight, safe to say i wanna wake up to my mom’s cooking’

so in ten minutes, she drops pope off and gives him another tight hug, just for her own comfort, to know that he was alright, that whatever they did, they were gonna manage it all together.

she goes to close the mini-van door and that’s when she really sees how badly jj was also ambushed in the fight, he groans as he tries to beat her to closing the door. “uh uh, there’s no way you’re going home like this, how bad does it hurt?” it’s not as bad as it-” “stop bulshitting me, you have a bust lip and i saw kelce get some good hits to your stomach, do you even have a first aid kit back home?”

the pointed tone she used with him and the pain of the bruising willed him to shut up and accept his fate he was secretly (and genuinely) sort of thankful for it, he really didn’t want to go home

after sneaking into the house and successfully into her room, kie switches on a lamp light; “i’m gonna go get the first aid kit, go take a shower so i can put something on your wounds” she whispers while tossing a towel to jj, she used the same pointed tone that made it non-negotiable, he sighed

“a pair of track-pants and a hoodie are on the second drawer on the left, you’re my size, it should fit.” she says as quiet remark while closing the door behind her

when she re-enters the room, she finds a very half-naked jj setting the towel aside. he knowingly smirks at her.

she does try to will a pool in her stomach she doesn’t recognise, her friends were all so goddamn attractive omg

“oh shut up you asshole”

jj tries to keep his heart steady at her voice slightly strained like that, what was that?

she gestures him onto the bed and he obediently sits opposite her. the mattress sinks at his weight almost too comfortably; it was something jj was still getting used to, they’d been friends for so long but her privilege always stunned him.

she handed him some vaseline and gestured to his lips, “it’ll make sure the rest of your lip doesn’t dry out because of the cut, you’ll thank me tomorrow”

she actively pretends not to notice how soft his lips looked under the dim light and how intently his blue eyes were staring at her

“yes ma’am”

she tries not to grin at how that nonchalantly makes her heart flutter, god he was such an idiot

she moves on to examine his torso, there was a littering of small pale-blue and purple bruises on him

she carefully begins to work her way through them with some cotton balls and ointment

jj finds it so weird how gentle she is, her brows are furrowed in concentration and she hums in satisfaction as she does every two or so bruises

he can’t help but think of how beautiful she is, just so purely beautiful and so so cool. her hair was so curly and her skin looked so soft...

sure she’d done this before - pope, him and jb had gotten into so much trouble in the last few years, but a year without her making sure they were okay had weirdly changed it

he realises how much he missed her not being there the last year she spent full kook

their comfortable silence, with her tending to the bruises and jj thinking about her the shenanigans they’d managed to get into over the years, was only broken when she stood back up to re-pack the first aid kit

she continues “im gonna go shower, you can take the bed, i’ll just sleep on the couch”

“no it’s okay, i’m definitely taking the couch-”

“my house my rules asshole, you’re taking the bed”

and there was that tone again, only his exhaustion seemed to give him courage to retort

“kie i’m not letting you sleep on the couch, we can share the bed” jj didn’t even realise those words coming out until they did

kie tried not to make it a big deal, she was taken a back sure, but she was chill..... so chill

“okay then, sharing it is”

that’s when jj registered their exchange

ten minutes later, after she had changed into some pj shorts and a t-shirt, she realised jj still hadn’t put a shirt on and was asleep soundly under the comforter

as soon as he felt the comforter dip next to him, he turned to face her, mostly asleep kie ignored her heart racing

“thank you”

jj slept so incredibly peaceful that night

ofc they woke up comfortably snuggling, they swore never to speak of it again

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thereallinksstuff · 5 years ago

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Uhm here's my first fic in like 8 years, I hope it isn't to bad.

Fandom : sander sides ,

Pairings: intrulogical, background royality hint of anxciet

Words: idk fahm

He felt the familiar tug of Thomas summoning them, he sighed in annoyance at being disturbed.

He popped up just like any other day he was summoned only this time everyone was staring at him. "Why are you all looking at me as though my head has turned into Barneys armpit?"

"Uh....Nice outfit logan" Virgil managed through his suprise at logan not being in his normal tie and black polo.

Looking around the room at everyone staring at him, Logan realised he hadn't changed into his work clothes. No instead he was wearing large spiked combat boots, torn black skinny jeans, with a sleeveless punk rocker style Jean vest. Even his hair was a vibrant blue instead of the normal brown.

"Uhm...Logan? How come your dressed like that?" Patton had asked curiously.

being pulled from his thoughts by Patton's question logan turned to look at the fatherly side,

"Well it is not my usual attire, I am comfortable like this. I merely forgot to change before popping up. If you would all continue with the discussion you were having prior I would be grateful."

"I agree, let's get back on topic."

Logan was thankful for their host for helping in getting everyone's eyes off of him.

For the next hour or so they discussed whether or not Thomas should do one thing or the other, He didn't pay much attention. He was too focused on a strange feeling (heh feeling) that someone was in his room.

As soon as Thomas had his issue resolved Logan was the first to say goodbye, of course with a reminder to drink water and be healthy, but he was out of there quickly.

When he got back to his room he didn't immediately see anyone there, curious as to why he felt like someone had been. Looking around his room he noted how all the books were in place, his bed was still neatly made, his closet doors were slightly open as he had left them. Taking a moment to double check inside his closet, he felt like someone had their eyes on him. As he walked out of his closet he noticed a small paper and box on his desk.

Making his way over he examined the note with a strange curiosity.

To Lo,

I have a proposition for you, if you would like more info, check the kitchen ; )

From, someone.

As curious as Logan was about the note, he loved a good puzzle after all, he looked inside the little box. Inside there was a small space pin that had 'viva la pluto' written on a small ribbon. To say he was shocked was an understatement, he was baffled as to who would have given him something so nice and who would have gone through the trouble of learning about his disdain for Pluto no longer being a planet. 'It is a planet, stupid people.' he thought as he placed the pin on his vest. Making his way down to the kitchen he noticed Patton making dinner with Roman and Virgil not around, possibly in their rooms.

"Hello Patton, I wanted to apologize for my appearance today with Thomas, I nearly forgot to change, I will make sure it doesn't happen again."

Turning around and smiling brightly at Logan, Patton just gave him a shrugging wave. " It's alright Logan, I think we were all just surprised to see you...all punked out." "I understand the confusion Pat, I tend to only allow myself to dress this comfortably when there is nothing that will need my sudden appearance."

He Gave Patton a small smile while looking around the room, he noticed a small deep blue note on the counter, "hey pat, who's the note for?"

Patton turned and followed Logan's gaze- " oh that? Im not sure who it's from but it's got your name on it." Logan walked over and picked up the note, choosing to pocket it for the moment. "Well I am going to go reorganize my books, I shall see you at dinner Patton." He finished saying as he walked into the shared living room. Pausing for just a moment to read the note.

To my Star

I know you like to read so check your favourite book to find the next clue

From someone cool.

As he made his way back up to his room he couldn't stop himself from theorizing who the notes were from, it wouldn't have been Patton as he was with Roman, and Roman well, to be honest he didn't think Roman would do something this simple..

As he entered his room, he almost immediately noticed ' the murder of Agitha Christy ' sitting on his bed- not on the shelf. Sitting down on his bed picking up the book, he fondly remembered the first time he read the book, it was such a nice memory. When he opened the book he saw the note, gently taking it out and setting the book back on his bed, he read the note.

To My Sun,

I know this has been short but here is your final clue, meet me where you'd least expect me, yet exactly where someone like me would be.

Love your admirer.

'My Admirer?' he thought to himself as he got up to return his book to its place. Thinking logically he slowly went through the list of who it could be, Patton and Roman were quickly ruled out seeing as they were together. Only for a moment did he think it'd be Virgil, but realizing that Virgil currently likes Deciet, it wouldn't be him. Pacing back and forth in his room for a good 20 minutes he decides to try looking around the 'basement.'

No it wasn't really a basement more like where deciet and Remus chose to have their rooms.

Walking down the hallway that leads toward the 'dark sides' as Roman puts it, login again felt like he was being watched.

Making his was down to the common area for the 'dark' sides logan looked around seeing neither deciet or Remus. After a few moments of looking he sighed and thought out loud to himself. "who would send these notes, especially to me?' after all he was the 'nerd' he was logic. Although he didn't enjoy the nerd aesthetic as much as his punk one, he just couldn't get his thoughts to a conclusive answer about why someone would admire him.

Lost in his thoughts he didn't notice Remus come up from who knows where to stand right infront of him.

"HIYA Logan, whatcha doing down here?"

Be started into reality, login recomposed himself before answering, "I was looking for the author of some notes that I've been left, I am merley looking everywhere." He replied maybe. Little quickly, he had hoped Remus didn't pick up on it.

"Oh well, that sounds fun can I help you??"

Remus asked while bouncing on his feet, seemingly excited about being able to help someone. For a few moments logan questioned why Remus would want to help him, however he couldn't bring himself to a logical conclusion as to why he shouldn't let him help. He sat down on the couch that was behind him, and held the note out to Remus. "This is the last note I received however I do not know who the author is, and such I figured I just look around in places I wouldn't normally go." He finished with a huff, looking up towards Remus. He was reading the Note and doing his weird thinking face, Logan took this time to really get a look at Remus, he wasnt in his normal Dukey attire, he was wearing something more akin to how logan was dressed. Biker boots, ripped cutoff shorts, a black sleeveless t-shirt that read 'could be gayer' across the chest and a fully studded and patch covered Jacket. Logan laughed a little to himself about the similarities between his and remus's styles.

"Well, do you have an idea as to where I should look Re?"

Almost as if he had forgotten Logan was there Remus blinked then bounced right back into energy town. "I DO!!" He shouted and grabbed logan by the wrist. "I know this seems kinda crazy but just follow me!" Remus bounced forward dragging logan along with him. Ignoring the nice feeling of having someone else hold you, Logan followed after Remus, hoping it wasn't to far.

"Okay I'm gonna need you to close your eyes and trust me." Remus asked as he stopped in front of a door Logan didn't recognize. "May I ask why Remus, I do not wish to be the subject of your pranks."

Remus looked around quickly trying to come up with an excuse, not being able to think of a good one, he replied simply. "it's a surprise! But also because we have to cut through a part of my imagination. And I don't want you to be er.. grossed out?" Remus finished quietly, being considerate of the others feelings was a bit strange to Logan, seeing as Remus rarely did it, however he was more curious as to who the author of the notes was. He made the decision to trust Remus, and of he was honest with himself, he was hoping Remus was the author, seeing as he liked Remus for quite a while now.

"Alright Remus, I trust you to keep me safe, we can go when you are ready." Logan adjusted his glasses to look at Remus, who had been staring at logan with a wide grin plastered on, but slowly it wavered as he processed what logan had said. "You...you actually trust me enough to enter my imagination?" He asked, looking down rubbing his hands awkwardly together.

"Well yes, you may not have the nicest or cleanest thoughts and ideas, but you are a part of Thomas, and to be honest with you Remus, there are times when I prefer deciet and yours company more than the others. You are unpredictable and can be a bit much however, I have no reason to not trust you. You have never directly hurt me, or the others - well minus roman." Hoping that He didn't pick up on the emotions behind his words, Logan let out a small breath he didn't realize he was holding as Remus bounced in excitement. "Okay, let's go!"

Grabbing Logan's hand instead of wrist this time, Remus pulled logan into his imagination as soon as the other's eyes were closed.

Logan now with his eyes closed and his hand in remus' , he hoped Remus knew where he was going, but then again, He tended to know a lot of weird things, so he let himself get pulled along what sounded like a dirt path. Every so often he would hear humming from Remus as the walked. It had only been 10 minutes of walking but to Login it felt like longer, what with his eyes being closed and all that.

"Okay stay right there with your eyes closed." Remus had asked him calmly, with what seemed like nervousness in his voice if only a little.

"I.. uh okay" Logan replied trying to show as little confusion as possible. He could hear Remus walk towards and open something but, without the visuals he couldn't identify it, so he waited patiently playing with the various spikes on his wristband.

Remus slowly walked back over to Logan, a bouquet of wilted flowers in his hands (he tried for days to make living flowers but couldnt)

He gently tapped logan on the shoulder, "okay you can open your eyes now" he said with such gentleness that the other had not heard before, slowly opening his eyes and looking at his surroundings, he couldn't help but to be shocked. Up in the night sky there were thousands of glowing stars with a large shining moon bathing both men in a nice calm light.

As Logan looked around he noticed the partially alive trees and bushes that surrounded the clearing they were in. Remus had a wonderful imagination,sure, there were random creatures wandering around and random dirty jokes personified everywhere but it was wonderful in its own way. He wondered why so few were willing to see it.

Finally looking over at Remus, Logan noticed how he was already looking at him, with a goofy grin on his face holding what seemed to be withered flowers. "I know you are a hesitant person sometimes and that you like to do things in the most logical order. However demented or disturbing to the other my ideas and thoughts are, you help them to understand me better. Which I can't thank you enough for. So Logan Sanders...would you like to...go kill people together? LikeBoyfriendsShould? On a regular bases?"

It took a moment for logan to process all of what Remus had been saying, and if his thinking was right Remus was the author of the notes, and he was asking him out in a very Remus way...

For once Logan didn't have the words to respond, the side he has had feelings for, for a while is asking him out and to be his boyfriend. Before his logical thinking could stop him he stepped forward grabbing Remus by his jacket collar pulling him into a kiss.

Taking the kiss as a yes, Remus slid his hands around Logan's waist, kissing him back with passion in an attempt to communicate how happy he is. When they pull apart logan looks at him with a sparkle in his eyes that was usually reserved for learning. However right here right now, with Remus, in his imagination logan couldn't be happier, even with all his grossness or disturbing thoughts, Remus was the one for him.

"Thank you, and to verbally express my feelings, I accept your offer to be in a romantic relationship, Darling."

"Haha I figured from the kiss but thank you, to hear you say it makes my heart explode into a million pieces hahah." Leaning his head on Logan's shoulder the two sit and talk until dinner, to which they both go to, sharing glances and holding hands, much to everyone else's confusion. they lived punkily ever after.

I hope y'all like it, let me know if you do

Sorry for any errors in grammer or spelling, it isn't my strong suit

#sandersides #punk logan #punk logan sanders #punk remus #punk remus sanders #writing #intrulogical #royality #anxciet #be nice i havent written i years

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corescorner · 5 years ago

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So That New Video Huh?

Okay holy shit, I’m gonna do an analysis for it. I’ve never done this before and no one literally has ever asked me to do this but youre getting it anyway cause this is the only place I can gush about this so freakin deal XP

First off, I woke up at two AM cause I’m A Disaster like that, and was greeted with this wonderful video. So naturally I make a pot of coffee and some Crofters toast and get on with my analysis.

Also! THE SWEATERS AND SCARVES! I WANT ALL OF THEM! On that note huge preesh to my Mum -even though she’ll never see this- who’s helping me buy one of the sweaters even though she doesn’t have to cause I’m a Grown Ass Adult ™ with my own money. Kind of.

Anyway on with the analysis! Under the cut cause Daaaaaaaaaaaamn is it long.

- Thomas' jacket! I want it.

-That ad intro though XD

-RAAAIID!!

-I be a real floozy XD

-Don't trust an old viking like me: Thomas Sanders (you know, the youtuber)

-PIrateS DiDn’T ReallY TAlk lIke ThIS! Reexamine your cultural biases!

-'what the hell is that accent?' going a liiittttle Remusy voice there Tommy.

-his ears scrunched down by the helmet and the beard string...

-Hahahahahaa, masculinity is a prison!

-SANDERS ASIDES! Nice.

-OKAY SO, this is literally the first thing I did when waking up and my mind was not ready for them TO BE HANGING OUT ON THE COUCH, suffice to say I had a mini freakout to myself and then excitedly continued.

-THE ONSIES I WANT VIRGILS!! THEY'RE ALL SO CUTE

-a florida dwelling man, who never leaves his house. Good point XD

-Romans immediate Sass™ Love It

-Virgil’s Just As Sassy Thumbs Up. Hyello!

-*gasp* ohmygoodness it’s all Frozen. Oh whoever could have predicted that! Roman... Please.

-Virgil’s eye squint at Roman when he announced 100% of the votes were frozen and Pattons excited cheering even though he just said he didn't vote for it so there's no way it could have been 100%

- Now that I think about it, if Roman didn't rig it, I think they'd probably be at a standstill with, ya'know all their votes being on what they wanted to watch.

-mmnnmmmnnn falsehood. It was so calm this time. soft falsehood.

-Paton’s incredulous 'too childish?!' he says this like he's recently seen Logan wear his and he's like 'what, but what'

-how can Thomas feel B.A.D with his inner D.A.D We👏 Get👏 It👏 You're 👏Adorable!

-VIRGIL: I CAN THINK OF A FEW WAYS. PATTON’S SAD LOOK!

-redirecting his attention to something good.... or neutral.

-ROMANS SASS

-Who among us can forget the absolute bop that is...... this weird ice cutting song. Roman with the sarcasm.

-Pat: pretty cool/what it’s a chilled out groove! Lo: I might need you to leave.

-Virgil's constant just Overthinking™ and not actually paying attention to the movie really. Mood.

-WHOS KID IS HE?! WHY DOES NOONE NOTICE THEY’RE LEAVING HIM

-some things need time.... Like evolution! Cute Nerd Alert.

-Patton blowing on his drink

-I ALso LOve you Olaf!

-VIRGIL’S LOOK AFTER THAT

- no you’re mine now

-I love that Roman commentates on movies he watches cause that is 100% Me

-’the heart is not so easily changed’ Lo: No it isn't. Pat: Hmm?

-’but the head can be persuaded’ Ro: Can it though?

-’fear will be your enemy.’ Virgil’s looooooook T.T

-Pat and Ro: JOOOOAN! Virgil and Lo say nothing. Thomas:..... Joan...

-it’s making me too aware of the passage of time! Ooooooof big Mood™ bro.

-REMUS!!! :D

-Of course he's naked, cause why wouldn't he be, they're all in their comfortable clothes.

- they're gonna die at seea! :D

-I sleep in the buff. Thank you Remus. No seriously, good to know.

-Virge: Did i screw everything up? Ro: No I threw out your vote so you couldn't do that. ROMAN!

-Patton’s head bob in agreement about missing the hand drawn movies

-Roman’s actual misunderstanding that virgil wasn't talking about frozen being the wrong decision.

-Verge: How are you telling me to settle into something right now when you've taken your sweet time to settle into things that you were uncomfortable with in the past? Virgil with the shaaaade.

-Pat: I just think we should all relax. Virge: You do realize who you’re talking to right?

-Virgil's genuine confusion if Lo is asking him that question cause hes always so literal and then proceeds to tell him the number anyway.

-’why have a ballroom with no balls?’ Remus’ snicker, same.

-Just give in to the raunchy jokes Thomas, it's funny.

-Roman imitating Hans’ 'evil plotting face'

-Ro in Dude Bro Voice: aw man yea I’m so fucked up on chocolate fondue I don’t even know what im sayin right now

-All of the others smiling at that. Is Roman doing this to make them smile?

-Patton whines, Logan: Is something wrong Patton? UM Logan asking about FEELINGS Cute.

-there's no way shes coming out of this situation without trust issues. Mmmmmmyea.

-Ro: except for the footprints behind you. Lo:HEy YEa!

-Pat, quietly: don’t let them in don’t let them see. PATTON! SOMEONE HUG DAD PLEASE

-Virge: he may have been an idiot back in the day, but hes not anymore... Virge, are we talking in double meanings here?

-Lo: she shouldn't let go of more of her clothing that’s for sure, shes gonna freeze to death. Lo, she has ICE POWERS. I'm sure she’s fine. The cold never bothered her anyway.

-Logans confused, what about a bridge? Metaphors Lo.

-Pat: let it go! Ro: lie low in our kingdom of ICEolation, come on paton don’t go for the low hanging fruit.

-Lo: There’s a storm out tonight!? Well, obviously Thomas has to stay home why are we debating this. No, Lo honey, it’s still a metaphor.

-Lo: you think this castle has a lavatory? Pat: ICE TOILET! Ro: or a bed? Pat: ICE BED! Lo: this place sounds awful.

-Pat: his thing with the reindeer? Lo: outside of nature's laws? Re: he DEFINITELY FUCKS THE REINDEER! I THOUGHT THE SAME THIIIIIING.

-Ro: If OnLy ThErE wAs SoMeOnE OuT ThErE wHo LoVeD YoU 'hans evil plotting face'

-Logan pointing out Romans constant shade at he movie.

-UM! THIS IS HOW I SHOW MY LOVE UM EXCUSE YOU, My Prinxiety heart.

-Romans complete legit reason why Ana should have been saved by Olaf.

-Virge: I bet he’s talking about you right now. THOMAS' FACE.

-Pat: Thomas has talked about him to other people. Patton likes gossip?

-Ro: WERE ALL GOSSIPY BITCHES SOMETIMES!

-Logan AGREEING that they’re gossipy bitches XD

-OKAY I LOVE THAT RO IS THE ONE WHO SWEARS THE MOST

-Patton pointing a logans points in agreement

-VIRGIL IS SPIRALING, deep breaths kiddo!

-Virge: just think about it. Thomas: LIKE I HAVE A CHOICE

-Virge: he trusted you enough to share a history that he wasn’t proud of with you. Again talking in double meaning here Verge?

-Virge: ‘he wouldn’t have gotten around to some of the stuff you wanted to know about on his own. More backstory to unlock mayhaps?

-Logan doing the countdown thing to help with the anxiety.

-Thomas going along with it without question, Virgil.... kinda going along with it?

-Virgil’s soft ‘.... blinds...’ after naming things that were like existential crisis things XD

- Thomas and Virgil tasting the same thing? Do they all taste what Thomas tastes? Or were they eating together?

-Lo: You are safe. T.T Loooooooogaaaaan

-LOGAN TOTALLY OWNING THAT THOMAS CALLED HIM COOL! CAUSE YOU ARE!

-Virgil’s soft look when Thomas is talking about adjusting and then saying that he still thinks theyre friends! UM again with the double meanings?!

-Thomas: things will be alright between us. PATTON LOOKS AT VIRGIL Cuuuuuuute

-Roman’s metaphor that makes no sense to the situation.

-Thomas: thank you Roman, that’s barely applicable.

-and then his look of 'you're welcome' XD

-ROMANS SASS!!

-Logans list of Elsa’s powers

-Patton nodding along to it and then his 'yea it all checks out' XD

-Logan’s thoughts on Arendales military being just Elsa cause of her powers.

-Virgil’s soft smile and sigh.... ‘Too bad we didn’t go to that party.’ VIRGE!

-Anxiety music starts, what if your soulmate was there and now you’re never gonna get another chance to meet him

-Ro reaching in Virgil’s direction OH SHIT OH SHIT!

-Oof youre freaking out princey there Virge

-Lo: watching a film is too passive of an exercise to allay Thomas' troubled thoughts, Virgil’s cute shrug and thumb nail biting like 'welp'

-DECEIT!!!!!!! ROMAN WHY DO YOU HAVE HIS HAT DO YOU HANG OUT TOGETHER, WHY WERE YOU IN HIS ROOM WHY WAS HE NOT WEARING IT WHAT WAS HE DOING WHEN YOU STOLE IT!

-Dee: I was looking for this! So he doesn't always lie, that’s good to know.

-Virgil’s HISSING! Okay sure, but he wasn't even talking to you man calm down XD

-Dee: DONT TOUCH MY SHIT *finger waggle*

-Romans face! Like, yep I saw this coming and i did it anyways, and I’m probably gonna do it again in the future.

-HOW OFTEN DOES ROMAN RIG VOTES?

-Logans interest in rewriting Frozen

-Ro: no. yes. I don’t know what you’re asking. Roman, it was kinda self explanatory XD

-everyones expressions when roman is talking about how he’s gonna rewrite it.

-YEA YOU LET THOSE CREATIVE JUICES FLOW!

-Virgil’s little ‘aw hell yea’

-REMUS: eh not my kind of fanfiction! WHAT FANDOM DOES HE READ FOR!? DOES HE READ STUFF ON HIMSELF AND THE OTHER SIDES!?

-ALSO HE’S RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COUCH NEXT TO LOGAN NAKED, HOW MUCH CAN LOGAN SEE?!

-I’m going to bed. IN THE BUFF. Yes, you’ve stated this before XD

-everyones contributions to the fic

-Pat: I see your point Virgil, but how about this: nobody dies.

-Joan at the end XD Joan should do more ads with Thomas, they’re great.

-Thomas: you just do it XD

-LOGAN APOLOGIZING TO HIS ONESIE! MY FUCKIN ASS YOU HAVE NO FEELINGS YOU'RE APOLOGIZING TO AN INANIMATE OBJECT MY DUDE!

-So this is obviously after DWIT, cause of Remus’ appearances and Logan’s ownage of being called cool. But is it right after? Or is there gonna be a prequel type video next that happens before this and exactly after DWIT?

-Thomas being sad hurts me.

-Did I mention how much I LOVE THAT THEY’RE JUST CHILLING WATCHING A MOVIE HOW OFTEN DO THEY DO THIS!?

-Logan drinking his... coffee? Kinda drinking it. If they taste what Thomas tastes(??) does it happen the other way around? Probably not right? Or is it one of those things where it’s a phantom taste or craving type situation?

-Roman lounging on a bean bag chair in front of an actual chair, yea same.

-BUT ALSO VIRGIL SITTING ON THE BACK OF THE COUCH. I do that too much, or like on the arm.

-Logan just fuckin wearing dress shoes like they’re not just at home on the couch watching a movie.

#thomas sanders #sanders sides #sanders asides #sanders sides spoilers #roman sanders #patton sanders #logan sanders #remus sanders #virgil sanders #deceit sanders #joan stokes #thatsthat24 #ts virgil #ts logan #ts roman #ts remus #ts patton #ts deceit #core analysis

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demyrie · 6 years ago

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Wow I totally forgot to cry here but I love love love how you portrayed trans Shinsou in BnB?? Like maybe it's cause it's from Aizawa's POV or Izuku's instead of Shinsou's but it's just. I love it. It's not the only thing in his arc, it's not his only (very valid) concern. It's not over-mentioned and there's a good balance of acceptance and surprise from those who know like- God idk I just love that there's unrelenting support for him that isn't in his face or in the readers', it's so genuine

Oh god thank you so much. Really. It means the goddamn world to me, OH GODDDDD, because the instant that I realized it was perfect, that it was true for my Shinsou and how, I shied away from it for weeks because I was afraid i would mess it up. I didn’t even tell Rae that he was trans???? Like not until right before that chapter dropped??

So .. just … thank you. Everyone around him just loves him very much and will do their utmost to understand and support him. There will be misunderstandings and weirdness, but everyone is FOR him and whatever he decides, and not ABOUT him, and that makes all the difference in the world, and I really hope I communicated it in a way that wasn’t a Very Special Episode but also wove it into his identity and struggle in a real way that makes sense narratively.

Reflection on Trans/queer fics and headcanons and storytelling under the cut!

So here’s the thing that’s cool about being in fandom for many years and being able to see how queer and revolutionary existence grows and finds free expression within these communities and how it’s often our first time to see or just IMAGINE someone who looks like us and is like us in our popular media. It’s so encouraging and transformative to see trans characters and trans headcanons reaching the same level of notoriety or prevalence/relentlessness/joyful enthusiasm as cis gay/queer headcanons back in like the early 00′s when we (fandom) decided we could just shout “THEY’RE GAY GET OVER IT” with no further explanation and i still support that right with every part of me.

BECAUSE! Everyone could and can be gay or trans for no fucking reason, because we said so, because we need it. But Rae and i love to talk, and it’s brought up an interesting split in priority in the stories we are telling: the deep desire for normalization in “they’re just trans (stop making a big deal out of it)” vs the desire for understanding and identification and exploration in “They are TRANS!!!! OK!!!!!! >:O”.

It’s the difference, per se, between having a Trans Hero and a hero that is also trans, which mainly depends on how the thematics of identity, belonging and the struggle reflect on and connect with the main plot. Trans or cis, most all of our queer media explores Otherness and separation because … we weren’t like other kids. We just weren’t, and it hurt, and we continue to hurt because there aren’t any people like us on screen that don’t end up dead or shamed or a lie. We are caught in the valley between people rolling their eyes that we dare claim different pronouns and be “so extra, it’s 2018 get over yourself” and being faced with massive violence and gender policing and murder for existing altogether.

So the question for narratives often is this: do we want to be like everyone else but also trans? or do we want to be trans heroes? And I think the answer is, we need both kinds of stories in our world.

We need stories that have a trans character who is just hanging out. Transness is not the largest part of their life, but neither is it a footnote. it’s like … veganism maybe. I mean, yer gonna know, it’s a part of them, but what you decide to do with that info is your own decision and may only come into play if you (following the metaphor) take that person out to eat lol lol. It carries the statement “hey im a fucking person outside of my XYZ” and … i mean hey thats fucking important and clearly some people are still in the dark about this ok.

But we also need stories with unapologetically Trans heroes – heroes whose story is one of Becoming, who struggle, and fight with themselves and others to be the person they want to be, the person THEY ARE, and the narrative reflects that and draws the ignorant in while venerating and affirming the trans reader. This will lead us into the kind of empathy that demonstrates that not only are we people, we are extraordinary, and we have something to add to the world.

We can be heroes not despite of our Otherness, but because of it, because we see things and have seen things no one else can see, and that’s immensely fucking important as well.

Identities fluctuate in and out of the spotlight of our lives. Not to say they’re in vogue one minute and gone the next, a fad, but that some days you are a BALL of trans or queer or gay anger and you cannot IMAGINE how you are supposed to fit into this hateful ignorant and dangerous world, and your body is at its max and just can’t hold anymore pain or disappointment. Other days, it’s alright, and your body is behaving itself, and you’re more concerned with your status as Caffeinated person, or Art person, or Gonna Get a Promotion person who is also trans.

Anyway, all this to say … y’all are heroes. Be yourself. write what you want to write about people like you because every viewpoint matters and I honor your story.

My Shinsou is trans and a queer disaster (he has a crush on the entirety of 1-A) and Aizawa is very fucking proud of him. So here’s a snippet in the hypothetical Eri arc with a freshly-on-T Shinsou and his dadzawa having a conversation about what it means to be “manly” RE: the fact that Aizawa’s sweet hero husband is currently cooking pancakes with Eri and Shinsou wants to join in but is AFEARED of gender roles:

“Getting over yourself is important,”he admitted, when he’d thought for a bit. “Life is short. Do whatinterests you. You’re not going to gain anything by playing toothers’ expectations. You want to learn how to cook, learn how.”

Shinsou’s expression was serious as hetook in that bit of wisdom. Looking him over, Aizawa reached out andthumbed the kid’s head to the side, then curtly flicked his nose.Shinsou grunted.

“Also, shave.”

“Says you?” he snorted, grinningonce more. Aizawa frowned.

“It’s inappropriate for a Hero Coursestudent to be scruffy,” he stated. “You have reason to be proud,but there’s decorum to consider.”

(He’s still a hardass tho. A very proud hardass! He loves his scruffy son!!!! TAKING AFTER HIS DAD!!!! AAAAAAA)

thank you for the beautiful message anon!!! You are great!! and I’m glad it resonated with you!! I put a lot of heart into it and I’m glad you felt it.

#trans #bandages and bravado #queer #trans shinsou #love a boy #demyrie writes #trans representation #i think about stories a lot #we need trans heroes #we need queer heroes #love #identity #you are enough #demyrie dissertates #Anonymous #shinsou hitoshi

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wolfwhiteflowers · 7 years ago

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a post for me to ramble (and updating) on and rant in general about the major s8 character-death rumor/spoiler. So, then I won’t spoil anyone by accident. *i have like 3 posts of like this and they’re all similar. i keep repeating the same things.

HERE is the first reaction/thoughts post. A bit about show stuff, writing stuff, comic stuff, other characters that affect them by this death. Also, TWD comic spoilers. or go to #*twd s8 spoilers or #*twd

***so, I will keep rambling on here and instead of another op’s post. idk. these are my thoughts. everyone’s got theirs and i dont wanna be insensitive or something.

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*if the spoiler/rumor is all true*

*TWD s8A msf is on 12/10/17

That Carl will die in s8 mid season finale. It also seems like it was Chandler’s choice. (i hope the spoiler/rumor is not true. It’s kind of a deal breaker for me to keep watching, but it’s kind of not.)

TWD ruined Christmas.

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- so it’s pretty crazy we learn about this spoiler/rumor from TSDF so early..like after 8x01 aired. People who had learned about the spoiler already are now looking at hints/symbolisms more than general audience would. Something like general audience would look at it after s8A is done. So..I feel like going crazy and overthinking of all these hints or symbolisms that the writers had added. I kind of like that...symbolisms and stuff. I mean..at least it’s not going to be a super shocking unexpecting way that Carl dies. For me, I like that cos i like to know things ahead of time. 8x01 got some hints already and wow. “your boy is gonna die.” Red eyed Rick and the future vision-mentioned of the owl(symbolism). Red eyed Rick is seen crying hard like someone very close to him had died. Plus the glass thing..idk what it is...it’s symbol of grave marker/death. In, 8x02 spoiler I read, is that Rick sees a baby, someone’s child. I keep thinking that s8 will have a lot of death symbolisms and with something about children. (more about it in another post)

-things that seems like it’s true. Chandler moved to LA or something. Everyone is talking about something big will happen in msf. (like as usual but well...yeah) Chandler’s tweet about appreciating TWD and his journey. I thought 100th ep but ... ya know. Another thing is that it’s seems confusing exactly whom “killed off carl” cos Chandler was thinking of going to GA university and was excited for s8. idk i guess he kept changing his mind. I just don’t think Gimple and writers would want to kill off Carl ever. 12/5 AMC mentions of a shocking moment in ep8 and Hardwick too. I think it’s true. I hope not but :\

-things that Doesnt seem like it’s true. the cast seem upbeat during interviews. but maybe they respect chandler’s decision and proud of him if he chose to leave. Also, maybe they’re excited for new creativity for their characters. idk..or they know this show is ending soon and they’ll leave and blah. we see their character die in a domino-effect. / 8x01, Michonne said to Carl “this is your show.” Like in the comics, where we all thought and felt Carl will be the next leader someday. It’s always been more about Carl’s story. But, maybe the show is different and going to be. It’s more about Rick’s. (like the Hunger Games’s Katniss and Primrose) Maybe the cast and writers are ok with the show’s premise being changed???

- the cast’s attitude lately is messing me up. They seem so calm and chill. If this spoiler of Carl dying(and no re-casting) is false. This have been the trippiest thing for me and the fandom. If it’s true, it’s gonna shock the non-spoiled fans so hardcore.

- recasting-theory/ atm, I don’t mind if they re-casted someone to play as Carl or adult-Carl. It would go smooth since it’s gonna be in future setting (s9). Some people seem bothered by it but I mean...it means that Carl, the character, will live and the main point of the show will continue. (hmm kinda like OUAT where adult Henry is a different actor.) ...idk why ...yet.. writers/crew didnt do it. Too early to change it or it’s Chandler’s choice again. Maybe the crew did and Carl is in bed healing in s8b and in s9 is diff actor as adult Carl. But :\ ...i think s8 finale is the end of the war and it’s weird to not have Carl there or not in s8B at all.

- gracie theory. no i dont want that future lil girl to be Gracie and that meaning Both Grimes kids died. That’s too much and dumb. I’ll be okay if Judith died, raised Gracie, and Carl left mid-war (recast Carl) and taking pirate-Michonne’s arc. But just Rick with no Grimes kids is just too much.

- idk how to take it yet. Keep watching the show or not. It depends on how well the writers do it, and if it makes sense story-wise. They gotta give it all. s9/the future...really will be the “New Beginning.” idk yet. I’ll see how it is in s8 msf. It gotta be like an ep where Carl be around with loved ones and appreciates his life, and make the show more about that it is Rick’s show. I would hate it if the writers just crap out on the writing and Rick dies s9 and then others, and become the Daryl and Negan show.

- also idk how to feel and deal about the writing of TWD tv show / comics / and the remixing. I keep wanting the show to parallel the comics..or the main story plot/the point of the story to parallel to the comics. BUT, the show is already a bit different..and still similar to the comics. I keep speculating/overthinking on the remixing stuff and kinda get disappointed if it didnt happen on a show (which they can, if they want to, not parallel with the comics. ex- death of Andrea, change of Carol, non-comic Daryl, etc.. Or scenes happening later or earlier in the story.). Like there’s no right way of it or right way of feeling of it. So, I guess ...don’t expect so much on the comics. But, I like it when the show do follow it. sigh. It’s like I expect the story’s point to be there and with respect. idk. Maybe ..decide that these are different stories. tv and comic. separate them. think of kirkman - comics. gimple- tv. idk..it would be well bummer like Kirkman doesnt like the tv show anymore-s8. But, it’s weird to think that when I don’t think Kirkman’s writing is the best, or that I don’t think the comics are better compared to other stuff. so idk. so it’s confusing to me rn.

- i feel like im being over dramatic and passionate about it. it’s so weird. but i just want good storytelling and respect to the story and to the characters. I also ..I always say that TWD isn’t my #1 show. It’s just one of my good shows. The show is doing fine atm for me. (i think the bash talking/fandomwank on the writing is too much. it’s fine. whatever. ukno how the fandom can get. I think I meant I’m tired of same people complaining over and over when they could just quit.) I’ve seen some shows that I dont like with their writing and how they deal with their characters, and then I quit. So whatever. Whenever the reason to quit comes, so be it.

- I hope I dont wanna offend anyone but it’s my opinion. Carl isn’t the reason why I watch. But Carl is the “heart” of the show. I realized there’s two things going on in the TWD/comics’s premise. #1 it’s Rick, a family man looking after his family. #2, Carl grows up and we see him become a man and someday lead his people. Two big arcs.

#2 I think, imo, the show, didn’t really showcase Carl’s journey. It’s probably hard to do with a child actor or on tv with rules and stuff. Like (maybe just comic-) Carl kills people and is like people are always kinda concerned about Carl becoming a serial killer. He’s loyal and protects his loved ones in a fierce unpredictable way. Carl, in the show and how the show did it, is a bit different than comic-Carl. He’s already mature and understanding. He’s bit like comic-Carl in rage and toughness, but tv Carl quickly controls it and just already a good man. I feel like there should be some angsty hard ..character flaw that Carl should still keep learning and grow to be a better man, now. There should be more focus on tv Carl and it’s probably tv writers’s fault since s4,... or like now..it’s planned because Chandler wants to leave in s8, so writers are making him a good well-meaning man.

Another thing, right away from 8x01, I felt like carl isn’t what I’m hoping or expecting him be like. I was surprised to see Rick shooting at Siddiq and got this arc of needing to learn about hope again. An arc mostly about/for Rick. I feel like it should be Carl shooting at Siddiq and Rick being upset about it.

#1, IMO, the show didn’t really show...in a major way that it’s a father-son show. Like we don’t see Rick always worried about raising him and stuff compared to other father/son stories. It’s subtle and light in the show. Go blame on the writers, I guess. In the comics, it’s shown heavily that Rick’s worried about Carl’s life and what he will become as a man. Like it’s Carl’s story. IMO, I always feel that in the show, it’s Rick’s story or I’m more interested in Rick’s story. (i keep thinking about Hunger Games.)

After Carl’s death, and if the writers wrote it like TWD always was/will be mainly Rick’s story/show, then the show can get by, imo, without Carl. Rick still has Judith. Rick still got arcs to go..like Negan stuff. Rick isn’t dead and Carl isn’t a leader-leader in the comics rn. Comics are like 3 seasons-ish ahead. (but ukno remixes, u never kno what the show will do) But, if the writers can sell it off well and that if I believe in it and still wanna watch the show.

- So..what concerns me about character deaths..and AMC, is that AMC didn’t Promote anything about a majoooooooor character death that will happen. (like Negan and the lineup in s7) It makes me think if TWD will become Daryl & Negan show, AMC won’t promote or hint anything about the future deaths of our fave characters/Rick. Just keeping it secretive and stuff. sigh..idk. So far, I like that Gimple is hinting about a death with callbacks, in s8A. Like dang, I really wish they promote something about a major death that’s gonna happen. It’s too shocking. 11/30- AMC still haven’t and it’s gonna be ep 7 soon. I hope they do for promoting ep 8/msf. 12/5- Ok so they did and weirdly heh. Just the voiceover guy saying ‘msf everyone’s will be talking about.’ on TTD, Hardwick made it clear that there’s a big shocking moment in msf. So, some fans are like understanding it. It seems like the web ..everyone seen the spoilers, so.. But still the general audience is gonna be so surprised but they know something is up. it’s msf, so ..there’s always a death there. Even if I didn’t know about the spoilers, I would say Carl would die because of the easter eggs-Rick’s visions and Carl is kinda doing the moral compass thing and there’s some callbacks-like mentioning his parents. Other ones that Iwould suspect if I didn’t know the spoilers would be Daryl, Aaron, Zeke... So yeah it’s seems harder to suspect that..but I woulda said Carl. It’s gonna be Carl. sigh.

- ok if Chandler had issues with the show/crew and bashing on the show and stuff. i feel kinda sensitive about it. idk..it’s that other thing...following the actor’s life when we don’t know the actor personally (like entitled fans thing). Anyways, if fandom/wank agrees with him ..whatever..why are those fans still here. blah. I mean idk..we deal with these kind of things differently. I still like the show but someday if i hate the show, i only want to bash on the show on things that made me hate the show. sigh different opinions... Maybe just don’t look at people’s opinions on the show and carl’s death. Fandom is gonna get super crazy. i guess like more fandom wank. take a break from it.

- if i wanna quit. I would say..TWD ended for me in s7 finale. That finale was a great emotional ep and I loved Maggie’s speech. It felt like a series finale. Or, end it around s8A. Someone said like when team family arrived at ASZ. So yeah ..there’s always fanfiction. It’s ok to take time and grieve.That’s just how it is in show business and disappointing stories go.

-/oh god, watching s8 and eventually getting to the msf. there’s hints! omg this is hard! um thinking of making a post of “#*twd s8 spoilers″. Because this post is already long.??? sigh this season is so crazy.

- I notice some fans bashing on the show and that they think to make the show better is to kill off Negan. TBH, I think killing off Negan right now is like killing off Carl. That, too, changes the TWD story a lot. Stories gotta have a villain. But, I understand if people aren’t liking tv-Negan (but not comic-Negan). Yeah, tv-Negan is like meaner..but he’s also more developed ..of comic-Negan. If u get it? I think we will eventually see tv Negan as what we see the “good” parts of comic-Negan. Like how his leadership does save his people and how he “cares”

- End of old Premise theory/or how the writers (try to) guide us to the biggest death and change of the show by killing off Carl... I keep hoping the writers are doing this theory I have on “wrapping up the old premise of the show” thing that I think is what the writers are doing. Because I think it’s a good idea, helps for me and for some others to deal with on “Should I keep watching the show after carl dies even though ‘father and son’ is the premise of the show?” I just like that idea and the writing..if the writers are doing it. If they’re not doing that with Rick’s arc, then ok whatever. blah. I like this theory/setting up to the death plot..because it shows the writers care of the story and the character. Again, making it “Rick’s show”.

- I keep thinking about other stories with the father/son, mentor/student trope. Reminds me of Fringe, OUAT, The Hunger Games. Idk what’s best for TWD (depends on the fan’s interest anyway) Usually, those stories I’ve seen is like the father is redeemed and died, and the son/child lives on and loved. Some stories like THG Katniss sacrificed so much and learned to live~ again, but Primrose who lived and safe from Katniss, died anyways. So, uh Idk where TWD direction will go.. TWD didn’t really show that trope of redeemable father or something.. It’s subtle.. father looking after son. So, maybe s8, the writers are showing more of how messed up Rick is now and shall go on journey(the new beginning) of grace/mercy to redeem himself after Carl dies.

-feel like showing this fanvideo... https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=n857ZhZyKls . It’s a great tribute video of TWD s1-s8premiere. Almost seems like it’s wrapping up the “old premise” ..and really showing Rick how he’s changed and needed to keep trying to be a better man. More like a Rick’s show.

-If TSDF is wrong (they could cos they dont know a lot unlike s7), like today someone(or a troll) saying they see Chandler in costume. saldfjslajf gah ..i need proofsss! I wanna know for sure! I can’t. Going back and forth, is too much, emotionally sdlfjklsaj. Could be ghost!Carl. etc. I think.. he’s dead for good. I mean he moved to LA. ??? oy

-Watching s8 so far, I don’t see a lot of Carl. Maybe he’s featured more in the last four episodes of s8A. I kinda think he got scenes with Michonne too (/Danai filming diff movie), on protecting ASZ. But from trailers, Michonne goes with Rosita for a bit. Anyways, I hope we get a lot of focus on Carl before the death happens, eh, and afterwards ofc. In all good writing too. But, ukno the writers like to not focus on someone and then kill them off. That’s their style n pattern. eta. After ep 4, I’m like ehh where’s Carl? It’s annoying. He should be there with Rick, Idk why he isnt there along w/Rick. Is it Chandler’s schedule or ..lame story reasons? Just feels like dumb for not seeing Carl much. I mean ..it means, I feel, they gotta have Carl featured a lot in ep 6?-9. Like bottle episodes. But then, I feel...IMO, it doesn’t seem different to me. It feels the usual. The show doesn’t feature Carl much anyway, and I don’t care. I’m used to it. Carl is always kind of in the background. Though I wonder about the writing and how it play out if like Carol dies..or someone that I really care. Would it be similar. Like they stop focusing on the character and do meh death scene. hmm idk. I was pretty annoyed with Andrea’s death but Gimple wasnt the showrunner. idk. tough show, lots of deaths, the story keeps going. who is more important/heart of the show something. idk.

11/30- Sigh yeah..I’m kind of disappointed on the writers..so far. Carl is seen in ep 1, 6, and 8. Three episodes. I wish the writers showcased Carl a lot and make it more like obvious..that’s something is up and that maybe he will die-kind of thing. I want more build-up to his death. However, I do like the callbacks from Carl and his little plot in s8A so far, with interacting Siddiq and being a better man than Rick and doing it for his mom. This plot does kind of wrap up his character but I wish it was more and more meaningful. idk maybe it was sudden for the writers or something. I feel kind of worried..like is Carl’s last plot..good enough for me and the fandom? Idk. It’s too subtle, and I’m glad I have spoilers. But the writing..idk i mean what if it happens to other characters. Their skills sucks elsewhere too? Will I keep trusting the writers? So...yeah idk..but I still feel okay..to keep watching. (cos Carl isn’t my top faves) I have expectations but am I okay with it when they don’t meet it? Anyways, I’m kind of ok with it just by those callbacks and Carl being a good man-arc in s8A.

-12/5 the promo for msf, it look like there’s a lot of Carl and family moments. that’s nice. so far, i think i’ll be fine with the writing. It depends on me and ofc other fans’ expectations are different. Also, based on filming spoilers, they will keep talking about carl and stuff. Even though the writers didn’t lead up well like I hope they are gonna mention Carl afterwards in s8B. Still kinda showing that it’s Rick’s show. Idk how s9 will go, whole different show.

- I think Daryl got comic-Carl’s arc in this season, who wants to kill any savior. It’s not like he stole it or writers got lazy (maybe), but like just so tv-Carl can die as still being likable and good. Or, actually, I think Daryl is acting like what I was hoping tv-Carl would act like in s8 before I learned about the major death spoiler. I wonder where tv-Carl stand on the whole kill saviors or keep prisoners. It makes me think tv Carl would want to keep the prisoners.

-I was thinking of Carol/Rick brotp, and I realized they’re gonna be more similar. Both will/had lost a child. I hope it means they interact more because they got more things in common. Well, I just like their friendship and Rick needs support. But, this also reminds me of how Michonne is similar to Rick and Carol and we still don’t have Carol and Michonne interacting. Anyways..much as i like Carick....Richonne need to deal with the pain too. idk what im saying. I want more Carick but it makes more sense for more Richonne to handle the death of Carl. Maybe like one Carick scene. 11/30-IDK if it leading to Carick scenes, but ep 6, they kinda mentioned Carol’s fear or it’s hard for her to be around kids and she kinda mentioned Sophia on Henry. She also talked to Zeke throughout s8A about pretending or her changing throughout TWD, and how it’s a survival thing she does or life made it that way. Carol mentioning loss of her child and how it changed her is like Rick will do...kinda. Also, maybe Carol and Henry will be the new-kinda adapting- Rick and Carl basing on the comics later on.

-Also there’s now theories about the new adapted/comic- Carl as in who will adapt comic-Carl later on. People think it could be Enid, ^Henry, Gracie, Judith, or others. But, I would rather/wish they recast Carl..older-Carl. The show is gonna be set in the future soon too.

- Chandler’s trolling comment(s) lol That’s Chandler! ok so i think he’s trolling and I think he’s probably hinting to the fandom that he’s gonna leave/Carl dies. I mean I would be glad if I’m totally wrong about the spoiler and that Carl is just away for awhile. But wow guys he is hinting at something. omg, the spoilery fandom is just so confused right now because Chandler is like saying he is still filming..Carl’s lives. But we don’t have like big proofs of that. but yeah ????lol I’m starting to have hope..but I don’t wanna have hope and not have it over and over and over. blah ..we wait.(11/14)

“It looks like he's looking out over the city of Los Angeles in that photo, so the "shutdown and restart" command in the caption makes me think he's saying that he's starting new in L.A. after finishing ("shutting down") The Walking Dead (which just wrapped this week). "1296000" is some kind of date but I don't know how to read it to tell what date it refers to.” meghann’s mom -TITD

“1296000 seconds - 15 days. 15 days until 8.08″. -Niolle -TITD

Wow this kinda confirms it that Carl will die and Chandler is off the show. :\ I appreciate that he’s kinda hinting at us fans. sigh I hope the future is good with him. I really like the pic. Because it still looks like Carl Grimes taking over the world like we all hoped it would be in the show and comics. (11/25)

-If I’m/TSDF was wrong2, then cool! .... And give me crow to eat! Then all of my speculations and my comments and stuff lately, still means something, ok. that some of my posts, that something in the way of Rick is changing and starting anew for the “New Beginning”. I still like that the writers are building up arcs and parallels cos i like them. It just be more about Rick and not (also) about upcoming Carl’s death. Before the big rumored spoiler happened, I first thought the hintings/foreshadowing stuff was that Rick was thinking of not killing Negan but prisoning him. Even though it’s unpopular to do that but for civilization. However, there’s foreshadowing of Rick’s child will die or Rick will die. eh. sigh. Something major is gonna happen..anyway.

Rick’s death too?- Of course the writers like to tease and make us worry about our faves. It’s also an old show and cast can leave n stuff. In s8, there’s a lot of Rick stuff..huge arc for him imo..and it seems right with the Carl’s death / Negan prisoned. I also like the character. So, rn is the finale ep filming-week. The spoiling folks are all going crazy. Like usually in finale ep we try to find who will die in the finale. Sure I guess Rick might die as well. sighhhhhh, change. So if Grimes boys die then i’m done. ok. but first, it’s nice to know ahead of time and just to know it. but we dont know anything rn. so...and i don’t see any confirmation lately.

TWD fandom/wank2- Sometimes I forget how Carl’s death will totally change the show. It haven’t happen yet. I’m like fine with it when it happens, so far. I still got my faves and I think the story can still work, and my interests. But it’s gonna change a lot and the fandom is gonna go super crazy. There’s also gonna be a lot of fandom wank or just sensitive opinions.

It’s also a big change, like on just keep watching or different fans around and stuff. / I’m like worried about the fandom wank..BUT the fandom wank is ALREADY sucky rn. OMG idk why , a lot of people just don’t like the war stuff/action stuff. lol what about the avengers/boring action movies? i feel it’s better than s7 but fans say it was boring.(oprah gif, which is true?) I don’t understand but whatever. I like s8A and it seems like the usual. People complaining stuff are stuff that have been around since s4 or whenever and it’s like well....that’s what TWD will do. Something that they havent changed, they will keep doing that. Accept what kind of show it is. I also don’t think TWD is teh best show eva. So, as long I like the show, I’ll keep watching it. Just idk..whatever interests you and know that it’s the writer’s show.

Kinda off topic..Sigh. Idk how to deal with the fandom wank and the negativity. I know that I gotta stop reading comments and stuff. gotta skim thru and not read into things. It’s weird that it comes from TSDF, ukno big fan sites. anyways.. But gosh it’s a fandom. where’s the fun stuff? I can’t stand the hate-watchers or fans blaming everything to Gimple. idk why but i wanna defend gimple. TWD is not worst show evah. If it is (ur opinion) then stop watching. i just feel that these fans should know already and deal with it. I don’t like their sarcastic comments to everything, everyday, and (mis)judge thing all the time. Like um can u just quit the show please. They criticize things so hard and early when u know ....it’s a season ..there’s arcs and u gotta wait how it unfolds. Also, idk why some fans wanna figure out why the show suck and etc., when like so what? it’s ur opinon and ur time and energy to keep watching the show. u decide and deal with it. Plus, pointing out articles that’s trashing on TWD and hoping Gimple sees it(how can anyone know) it or hoping Gimple gets fired,..it doesn’t make the show how u want it to go. TWD show is Gimple’s story. Just ..idk tired of negativity. im so burnt out on fandomwank. we haven’t seen Carl’s death yet. blah. Now people are just coming up with negative things about Chandler, Gimple, and business. TBH if Chandler wants to quit because of boring Carl storylines, I think that’s dumb. It’s a job and many actors would love to have his job.

-so it’s getting closer to S8 msf. The majority of the fandom already don’t like the season. (idk why...as in based on their reactions. they act like it’s drastically bad) They don’t like slow war action stuff, I guess. And, recently characters are being charactery... all about the ‘kill all saviors or have POW’. Now there’s rogue teams and going against Rick’s “plan” and that looks like TF dumb. So, idk, whatever. It won’t last long..msf is coming up. Plus ratings are down..maybe fans are tired or just television views are changing. Anyways, it doesn’t bother me much with the charactery stuff, because it’s still feels like TWD to me and characters still feel like in character.Also, maybe things might make more sense later on(season’s/s8A’s not done.) (ofc Daryl will go mad and do stupid stuff because that’s what that arc usually does to characters. full-circle arc.) ....Fandom wank stuff..but like it’s already happening so, try to avoid it now and especially in the winter hiatus. sigh.

stop reading comments and go make fan art!

-(wank) it seems like the fans should know a bit about the comics. The comics are written by Kirkman. The fans could decide if they like the rest of the TWD comic stories/Kirkman’s stories, just to see where TWD tv show might go, and if you like it in general. First, the comic books of TWD is not over. It’s still going. So, it’s like ..might seem like there’s no endgame or strong narrative. But I do see it and i don’t think it’s just random plots. Second, AOW/s8 is about war and so we’ll see war stuff and yeah Negan lives. Third, it’s mostly about Rick and Carl-old premise whatever, Rick’s leadership. Fourth, Gimple likes to have the show be closely to the comics/Kirkman’s writing even though it’s a bit different. (Daryl, Tara, Richonne) However, Gimple could adapt the comic story to be better than the TWD comics or completely change something to make the story better in the TWD show. But you know..it’s been 4 years of Gimple showrunning so it’s gonna be what will be (and like before). There are some things that was better than the comics, the characters are more 3D, imo I like the tv show medium struture than the comics, and we got Richonne heh, Carol being badass, and characters that are not from the comics being present. So, yeah there’s some positive and negative stuff about how Gimple is and is not adapting from the comics. There’s also you can’t just expect from the comics because TV show is always different and there’s also remixes. craziness. Soon, bringing in Carl’s death, it’s gonna change the show a lot and I think it’s gonna change a lot for Gimple too since he likes to follow the comics closely (and some think he sucks at it) . It’s probably gonna be like s3 when Mazzara(?) did the show. Not like the comic book much. But not like Mazzara too much..like killing off andrea for no reason and no sympathy. Gimple added the part of Rick,Daryl, Michonne meeting bitten-Andrea..i don’t like s3.

s8B and on- I think I would like to keep watching after Carl’s death. I really hope the writers did a good death scene and like have closure/conclusion on the Old Premise of the show. Or, some kind of transition. I hope so..sigh. Or it will just feel like a big plot hole. S8B is gonna be like a new show. It’s gonna be a New Beginning but before that future timeline/comic adaption will happen. Next year, TWD is gonna be so different and there’s gonna be so many changes. It’s like the old show is already over. It’s sad..just another change to deal with. I realized that even though I know Carl’s death will happen, and a lot of other changes will happen, I still gotta say goodbye to TWD old premise-show. Even though I think might wanna continue watching the show, Carl is/was/supposedly the heart of the show and the story. So, I’m hoping for good writing and some good reason why the premise is changed or that it’s always been Rick’s show. I think it helps me and others to just think s1-s8A TWD show is over. TWD s8B,s9-’The New Beginning’ is a whole another TWD show. A show that is more different than the comics. But still Gimple writing and yeah, idk if he will change it up more or keep remixing/adapting so closely. / I still have to wonder if I like the show during s8B and on. It’s gonna be tensed...fandom’s gonna be tensed and sensitive.

-I think I said it already but little things makes me realize how Carl impacting TF will just affect them too from his death...and based from the comic book adaptions. Obviously, Rick. But like others..Team Family, Michonne, Negan

-parallels/callbacks- I noticed there’s parallels in s8A. Idk if the show does that often but I feel it’s more than usual. These parallels are like reminding us of the old premise or just s1-7. It also kind of makes think of how some shows do these parallels in their last season. So maybe s8A is kinda treated like a series finale. Idk. It’s also mainly about or happens to Rick...and Carl. (8x06, Carl will say the “3 questions” to Siddiq) I watched ep 6, I love that Carl mentioned what his promise to his mom. Wow that’s it. That’s my one moment I needed it to see before he dies.

-more character deaths/cast change?- so after s8 filming, Andy shaved his beard and I’m surprised about that. I thought he would grow it out even more. Unless he can grow it out for s9 to look like ‘ old man rick’ quickly in the off season. I don’t see any Rick-death spoilers however. Anyways, it reminds me that there could be more changes to the show than we think. yeah, so far we know Carl dies and it’s a huge change. But remember we still don’t know everything until when the s8 is all done. ,...Enid. I heard about the actress got a different show to do. I’m thinking is Enid gonna die too. Uh really? Just what are the writers gonna do in S8B and on. Enid is based on Sophia in the comics. I just idk.. It’s gonna change a lot for the show and TF.

11/30- ok from last sunday. omg I’m guessing Morgan will die in s8 finale. I’m surprised how they revealed it that on TTD and how he’s crossing over to FTWD. I guess long term and FTWD is diff timeline. I’m like sad and shocked. But, a lot of people have been speculating that Morgan will die in s8 because of well comic-Morgan had already died and tv-Morgan had built the jail cell...so it’s like moral compass charactery way and that Rick will do what Morgan *and Carl would want Rick to do. Put Negan in the cell. I also think Gimple likes Lennie so much that he’s like ok..so u can also go to FTWD and then Lennie agrees. (Gimple showrunning there too.) // Another theory about Morgan is maybe he will take “comic-Michonne’s pirate-arc” and be missing for awhile and come back eventually. But, I doubt that. Or ..FTWD gonna have a timejump and merge(cancel) into TWD and Alpha is Madison and Morgan is Beta. blah blah idk. tired of the amc / franchise thing. they killed travis. boo.

eta. 1/12/18, new cast, Lennie pics. So far Morgan pics look like Morgan before s6. Before he found Rick. (like where FTWD is at rn) So maybe Morgan is still dead but we see him in the past~ . Or he’s alive and traveled and found FTWD characters. And it’s like he’s taking comic-Michonne’s “pirate” arc. during the time-jump.

more tv changes?- Oh, about Gimple, there’s theories by hate-watchers, that like there’s other changes could happen like TWD lawsuits, Gimple leaving TWD to FTWD, Gimple fired?(i doubt it),ratings stuff, TWD leaving AMC, etc.

-So this is kinda the last time to update these #twd s8 spoilers posts.12/5/17 Finally get to just post whatever and not hide it. Though fandom is gonna be annoying and crazy. idk. Craziness begins. Seems like there’s more meta posts..that’s cool. But I realized that after msf ep, it’s gonna just be same fandom stuff. And, probably more hate-watchers or so ...along with fandom wank from the hiatus. sigh. // Either way im not ready. this ep 9 is gonna be sad.

1/12/18- holy shit those promo pics of Carl and his fam, im like tearing up of it. it’s real ..it’s gonna happen. sigh sadz. So we’re getting more info and from EW and it’s interesting what the writers think of this new change. I feel like we’re lucky in the part of getting interviews and stuff of TWD cos others shows don’t do that sometimes. We get info and we will get more.

Anyways, I’m starting to wonder if the writers KNOW that it’s a big risk and big change to the TWD story. Like it’s their biggest one ever. Not like Sasha, Hershel death kind of thing. I hope they know that and keep respecting Carl /old premise / heart of the show after s8. ..in imo or how i see it. (i kno fandom is upset and all). If they treat it like the other deaths, idk, i would feel like not trusting to the writes. idk. I do think they know and put great care to it, so far. Ep. 9 and rest of s8B will explain more and I would see how the writers think of Carl’s death in the story.

#*twd #twd spoilers #character death spoiler #twd writing #twd s8 #twd speculations #twd comic spoilers #show business #k #im rambling and suck at writing and im being overdramatic.#t twd #*twd s8 spoilers #t carl grimes #t morgan jones

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