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You mean t*ylor sw*ft didn't win artist of the year for "sometimes I feel like everybody is a sexy baby"?
#personal#i dont care enough about her to be a hater i just think it's a stupid thing to say in a song#very depressing song overall actually#i heard it for the first time ever while i was at work a few days ago and it's kinda fucked up ngl#like in an 'i hope she has a really good therapist' sort of way#but what the fuck do you mean by sexy baby#my hot music take is that people shouldnt have to google '[your song] lyrics explained'#unless you specifically mean for it to appear to be incomprehensible and this definitely doesnt seem like that kind of song#i shouldnt have to google to figure out that it's *probably* a reference to a 00s sitcom#the meaning#if that is what it means#makes sense but it was probably a dumb line in the show and it's definitely a dumb line in a song#you dont need to agree with me i just wanted to say my opinion somewhere#and tumblr is my living room and my back yard and my porch so i can say whatever i want here
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I feel like taylor swift's public persona is so bland and uninteresting I don't understand how people can be so obsessed with her. Like rationally I understand from a social and psychological standpoint why she has obsessed fans (for the same reason anyone else does) but I cannot see the appeal at all especially since most her music is equally as uninteresting. Like what are you obsessing over exactly? That's just some random npc holsted to stardom lol what is there to like...
#dont get me wrong i dont hate her or her music. its not interesting enough to hate lol#its just so “safe”. like. background noise very neutral sounding safe stuff#i enjoy one or two songs occasionally some of them are pretty fun to listen but like#they dont create an interesting persona in the slightest they dont paint the kind of image most artists w hordes of fans have#barbie doll smooth ass woman wtf#in a way it is remarkable!#anyways just a ramble. i enjoy being unproductive with useless opinions#if you like her whatever i dont care and you shouldnt care about my opinion just move past this
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Wanna share your 13 reasons why opinions?
YES thank you for asking. i would have done so unprompted but i had a class.
so the controversy was that people were saying its portrayal of suicide "glamorized" the act and would thus make "children" want to kill themselves, and that that meant it shouldnt have aired. i have a lot of thoughts on this so ill go bit by bit.
in response to the criticism, the creators added a little pre-show bit with the actors clarifying that suicide is bad and that 13 reasons why is a fictional show and not like. a how to guide. personally i would have found that irritating and condescending if i was a tweenager tuning into the tv show but whatever. thats whatever in and of itself i dont care.
but specifically theres one part where one of the actors says that if you are struggling with self harm or suicidal thoughts "this show might not be for you." and thats fucking insane right? thats insane? a tv show talking about issues YOU struggle with. YOUR ISSUES. and youre being told not to watch it? that its not actually For You???? thats fucking ridiculous. i understand they intended it as a trigger warning but WOW was that probably the worst possible way to do it. and whats funny is in an interview, executive producer selena gomez says that she Intended the show to help people! who struggle with self harm and suicidal thoughts!!! but dont watch it i guess.
anyways i havent watched the show itself so thats actually the extent of my opinions about it. the rest are about the discussion and controversy.
something i noticed was that. every single motherfucker i saw talking about the show. good or bad. was an adult who made no claims of having experienced mental health issues. and yet they had such strong opinions about the effect the show would have on those groups. as an adult who has tried to kill himself. who was a child pretty recently. i find much of what they are saying to be a load of fucking useless horseshit. i cant speak for every teenager or mentally ill person i can only speak for myself. but i think i have more of an authority than random mother of a teenager #4.
and these people dont even make an ATTEMPT to empathize with the groups they are trying to "protect." every single one of them talks about teenagers as if they are a faceless mass of impressionable statistics rather than people.
and they keep using the word "children" and referring to "children." this show is not for 6 year olds. this show is for teenagers explicitly. it is about teenagers it is making an attempt at representing what teenagers struggle with. and uhhh i think it goes without saying teenagers are a LOT smarter and more developed than people give them credit for. yes they are crazy and stupid and insufferable but they are rapidly becoming adults every day and i think they should be treated with the appropriate amount of respect! what do they think about this, as the target audience? when 13 reasons why first came out, i met a girl who, like me, struggled with depression and self harm. and she watched it and enjoyed it, which surprised me given my familiarity with the drama surrounding it. and i think about that a lot, yknow? what about her?
there is this prevailing idea that, regardless of intent, any depiction of suicide will immediately result in someone killing themselves in imitation. thus, they say, suicide should never be depicted in media and nobody will kill themselves ever again. zero nuance. that doesnt seem right to me. am i crazy? that sounds like bullshit. thats not how anything works.
obviously , i can only speak for myself as a previously suicidal person (albeit thats more than 99% of these bozos can speak for any suicidal person), but in my experience, if i want to kill myself, then i want to kill myself. regardless of whats on tv. regardless of whether its depicted or "glamorized." i didnt want to kill myself because i saw that it was something i could do on tv, something "cool." i wanted to kill myself because i was fucking miserable constantly and i didnt want to be miserable anymore. i find it wring and demeaning to reduce that pain to "oh he watched the wrong tv shows."
there was also the claim that otherwise mentally well people would see it and suddenly become suicidal. i dont even care about getting into this because its basically an unprovable claim. how do you know they were otherwise mentally well, how do you know the show directly caused their suicidality? claims which lack nuance have no place in a discussion like this one and should be Destroyed.
anyways i hate how taboo suicide is. i hate it i hate that you cant say it that you cant talk about it. i find that so fucking unhelpful for destigmatizing and generally improving public mental health .
its even more infuriating seeing mental health professionals PERPETUATING the taboo, saying that suicide should never be portrayed at all. i think thats evil and i hate it. like my personal disdain for censorship notwithstanding i think that is harmful actually. how are you supposed to deal with feeling suicidal if you cant even TALK about it!?
i think the crux of the issue is just that these people are uncomfortable with the topic of suicide and they think that that must mean it is a bad topic which should be sanitized until it is tolerable to them and acknowledged as little as possible. i hate that. sometimes people die. you can talk about that just fine. sometimes people do it to themselves. sometimes they want to. its a fact of life and it would be a fact regardless of whats on tv, regardless of what people think about it, and regardless of what you think about it. people should be able to talk about facts of life. i think its disturbing to cut off bits of reality that you or random mother #4 find uncomfortable and make them off limits or pretend they dont exist.
i dont think the quality of the depiction, or whether or not its "glamorized" matters when determining whether or not a depiction of suicide should be allowed to exist, because that is inherently subjective and every individual will come away with a different interpretation. its not like people are being held at gunpoint forced to watch it!! i think people can generally make an informed personal decision about the media they engage with.
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Tried to follow only to discover I already am. Good job, past me. Thoughts on the changes made to Rose’s character with each reboot?
YES i have so many thoughts
first of all. the new 52 was the worst thing to ever happen to rose and im not exaggerating even a little. she started out as a superboy side character (???) as an assassin that was hired to kill him if he didnt do what they wanted ? then she became a ravager and hunted people down
but the WORST part of the new52 is that they either didnt know or didnt care about lillian worth and they just. made rose one of slade and adeline's kids. and had him raise her.
also she was the oldest child of her and joey, which is nowhere near the same level of awful as the whitewashing but still makes me uncomfortable
yeah so. new 52 was fucking terrible. that is not rose even a little i do not know this woman
but REBIRTH fixed so much <3 christopher priest my bff <3 i am once again recommending deathstroke 2016 bc it has so many good moments and i think its worth reading
the first time rose showed up lillian worth was mentioned!!!!! she was there!!!!! <33333 the timeline was changed a little but i can forgive that bc!!! LILI!!!!!
the problem is that the book made her hmong instead of cambodian and i dont really know why??? but also ive said it before but,,, as much as it makes me upset bc asian identities shouldnt just be interchangeable,,,, this was the first time it was even mentioned that she was half asian since the 90s!!!! and she had a whole arc about her hmong heritage and her family!!!!!!
AND she didnt kill anyone in that book iirc :') the closest she got to killing someone was when she was in the middle of a breakdown then shado killing him for her instead which!!!! i love so so much bc rose does not kill a lot despite what some writers want you to believe. pre52 she has like maybe 3 murders that i would consider in character so the fact that she doesnt kill anyone in ds2016 is so fucking real
anyways ill also count infinite frontier as a reboot bc i love to talk about my opinions
there werent a lot of clear changes in infinite frontier BUT. technically her cutting her eye out is canon rn. in deathstroke inc theres a flashback of her stabbing her eye, and also in dark knights death metal (?) shes drawn with an eyepatch
then she was in robin 2021 which was . eh. it wasnt BAD for her but it was just kinda her continuing to kill ppl ig :( but she was drawn so nice in that book so ill forgive it
side note i still hate the idea of respawn so that bothered me in this book. also what they did to connor hawke is unforgivable so its a net loss but whatever
anyways i think thats all my thoughts. in conclusion: new52 bad. rebirth mostly good. infinite frontier eh. and my own personal interpretation is perfect always.
#thats not even mentioning the fact that she gave up the name ravager in ds2016#which i LOVE but everyone just. forgot about it.#not fair#also im choosing to ignore the fact that that hmong family was paid by slade#bc i have a lot of thoughts about what that means for her but i dont want to derail all of this#but also also. ds16 is so fucking funny. remember when rose got married just to spite slade#rose wilson#dc
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So being prejudiced against people from your own community (and other communities) is fine under the guise of keeping it real, speaking whatever we want, and not being afraid? i didn't even know ayesha was trans when i read her tweets about kim being "castrated" as a child, but now it feels worse because she's trans cause she's attacking someone from her own community? she can say whatever she wants, i don't care, it just feels like you really like justifying shitty behavior from singers if you like their music instead of just admitting their behavior is pure shit and you don't really care about how they behave as long as their music is nice.
i didn't even know exactly who ayesha was before i saw someone retweeting about her calling out kim for working with dr luke which I was like "oh, yes, get her ass" but then she tweeted shit about kim's transition and that's when she crossed the line.
"no 12 is when kim's parents got her castrated, 12 is when i was being a kid and growing up x"
"exactly my point. you did nothing with this. while i worked my ASSS off to get any sort of my attention for my music, she was on tv talking about getting axe wounded at 12 by her rich ass parents."
re: azealia - i didnt'even see anything about azealia banks in her tweets, but miss banks can also go away with her transphobic shit. she has a talent with words, for sure, but she consistently uses her talent for evil WHICH SHE'S ALLOWED TO IF SHE WANTS that's up to her morals, but you don't need to justify it as "oh she's just keeping it real, i respect that", you see what i mean? like whichever music you like, you are still someone i really care about and enjoy, it's just odd to go to bat for these singers who keep showing their ass all the time.
This is a funny conversation because i haven't read some of those tweets either until you mentioned them like the axe wound tweet for example... ew. Umm. Its complicated. Maybe not for you... but to me, there's something about... people saying what they think even if other people think its nasty that i find respectable.
I think those tweets from ayesha about kim are disgusting, but im just not the type of person to cancel someone completely from my life when they do something wrong. Everyone does good and bad things, i dont think some bad things negate lots of good things, although lots of people do think that these days.
The way i see it, everyone thinks things that someone else would find disgusting. I dont know you anon but if you spoke or posted all your thoughts theres someone out there who would think some of them are disgusting, because theres people with all sorts of opinions. It doesnt mean you shouldnt speak your mind. Sharing ideas is very important or we end up in our small social media bubbles and dont understand other world views, or other cultures for that matter.
Regarding me saying that ayesha is more qualified to talk about transgender people as a trans person, i mean that while i find her tweets to be disgusting, i know there are some detrans people even on here who think that 12 is possibly too early for the medical transition that kim had. Its not really my place to say as a cis person, thats what i meant. I think at the very least its complicated and while you can say its great for people to transition that early, i think its great for some people to, and probably harmful to others based on personal anecdotes that ive read.
I hope i answered everything, lots of topics here. Also i want to say that i really enjoy conversation like this, i think its good for all of us to be exposed to different ideas :) ily anon
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Sorry i blocked u i was very upset at the hatred(miso) of synchretism i see on here. i’m jewish i don’t need their or anyone elses opinion on Open vs Closed. i don’t think nonjews need their opinions either. though you are keen to summon them. as a sumerian polytheist i disagree that Lilith has no place to be deified up from her demonic origins. I believe Inanna may forgive her for shitting up in that tree. I agree that pseudohistorical declarations are laughable but i dont think theyre harmful in religious context. We don’t go after the exodus lie, and shouldnt! Why any modern mythologies about lilith? Fraudulent behavior! Recreating christian persecution in a way.
I love lilith and to me lilith is as free as the chill of the swift starkissed winds! Despite our differences I pray may Peace be upon you :3
I have no problems with you blocking me, please block people like me if we upset you. My unease was being blocked after someone asked an open ended accusatory question—which I now realize you didn't do. I didn't realize that you used the word misosyncretism, I have dyslexia and misunderstood and thought you were saying I was a misogynist so I am sorry for that misunderstanding and will erase those tags.
🔹Not Needing Opinions🔹
If you don't need anyone's opinion on whether or not something is closed don't reblog a post saying a particular thing is open. You are inviting dissenting opinions— whether its from Jews or non-Jews— when you reblog someone else's post with your own opinion. If you don't want to discuss open vs closed then simply ignore posts that say Lilith is closed, block people who say she is closed, do whatever, but don't engage if it makes you upset.
People are going to have opinions and, again, my opinion is that Lilith is closed based on numerous Jewish voices I have listened to. I recognize not every person in a group is going to agree with each other because no group is a monolith, but I do my best to listen to the voices of a paticular culture and come to a conclusion.
🔹My Opinion🔹
Yes, I am "very keen to summon" my own opinions because its my blog. If I reblog and add to a post I'm giving an opinion... thats kind of the point of blogging.
My conclusion is that non-Jews worship Lilith as a part of cultural Christianity, an ahistorical mythology they refuse to admit is modern, ignore all open entities that still fit the bill, and I see a lot of antisemitism among them. As well as a lot of Islamaphobia & Chrsitophobia. It is a form of cultural appropriation for their own comfort because they cannot be bothered to learn actual history.
My observation is that the majority of Lilith worshippers don't actually care about Lil-demons, they use the demons as a tool to try and validate their worship as something rooted in a non-Jewish historical tradition, when it is not. Lil demons are a convenient excuse. In reality they cling to her because they see her as a feminist icon who stood up the the Big Bad Misogynistic Abrahamic God™.
There is no need for non-Jews to worship a Jewish figure ahistorically when there are plenty of actual Ancient Near Eastern Goddesses who are open.
Thats my opinion. Its what I'm standing by.
🔹Pseudo-history🔹
Now again, I'm not going to try and argue from the Jewish side it is not my place. But I can and will argue from a Sumerian Polytheism and accuracy in history side.
Lilith is not a member of the Lil demons, she is not Ardat-Lilî even if there are some similarities. I show information about Lil-demons here and they are not Lilith. Syncretism is not the problem that was common in the Ancient Near East— Inana, Nanaya, Ištar, Šaušga— as one example. There may be some connection between Lilith and Ardat Lilî: mainly influencing the characterization of the Hebrew Lilith in the Book of Isaiah, but there is no evidence they are one in the same. There is no evidence they were ever considered one in the same by any ancient people or traditions. The issue isn't syncretism its pseudo-history.
They were not syncretic in history. Lil demons come from Mesopotamian tradition which spans the 4th millennium BCE to the 1st millennium BCE; while the Sumerian language continued as a liturgical language for quite some time the Sumerian Civilization ended circa 2000-1700 BCE. Aside from the extremely minor mention in Isiah 34:14, the story most Lilith worshippers base her on comes from a midrash written at some point during the 1st millennium CE. This is a significant time difference and people just seem to wipe away time differences as if they don't matter, or they simply can't wrap their head around them.
Pseudo-history absolutely can be harmful and I absolutely abhor pseudo history and always will. I literally have an entire tag, #letsdebunk , for it and its been apart of my blogging since I started in 2017.
"We don't go after the Exodus lie"
Plenty do, plenty of Jews debate the historicity of stories in Jewish literature including the Tanakh, as do many Christians when reading the 'Old Testament'. (Also I would call it a myth not a lie). But whether or not Exodus actually happened in history is very different than making things up and claiming that it was a real religion and real mythology people once believed. Saying "Exodus is a story in the Tanakh and Old Testament and it says [insert story]," is different than saying "Lilith was originally a Sumerian Goddess of love and war," when she wasn't.
You are comparing apple to oranges. The fake history around Lilith is more akin to saying something like "Exodus is a story about how an ancient Egyptian God punished Egyptians for there bad deeds and Jewish slaves escaped while their was chaos and then they found a tribe worshiping a God named YHWH and adopted the religion of that tribe" <- that is not the story of Exodus its abunch of made up bullshit. Made up bullshit is what I consider most modern neo-pagan/left hand path/witch claims about Lilith.
Pseudo-history is used to culturally appropriate many things not just Lilith. It has many problems:
It's used to make bigoted claims against Jews, such as "the Jews killed Jesus" which is historically factually wrong and one of the most damaging sources of antisemitism in history.
Bigotry against Christians, by claiming their only role in history is oppression and the silencing of any Christian voices including POC the world over. Like the dumb St Patrick pagan persecution story which is listed as a false meme by Snopes but shows up as a real belief among neo-pagans. This is also extremely dangerous towards African Diaspora Religions that are syncretized with Christianity, as just one example of how Christophobia is dangerous.
Bigotry against Muslims, by claiming they have solely been a patriarchal oppressor that made no advancements to humanity and only offer "violent jihadism." Which is false and ignores actual Islamic history because real history is very inconvenient for the narrative
Its used to validate bullshit like the Burning Times, blood based witchcraft lineage, and a false sense of persecution among modern neo-pagans. A completely toxic belief.
Its used by feminists who claim a unsubstantiated matriarchal pre-historic religion destroyed by evil patriarchy. They use it to deny anyone who isn't a cis-woman from Goddess worship, witchcraft, and other neo-pagan traditions and claim transwomen and transfemmes are just another iteration of the evil patriarchy trying to taint there ancient Goddess faith. A faith that never existed. Pseudo-history as a tool of transphobia.
Its used by Wiccans and neo-pagans to ignore real Irish history. And add things like Ostara a made up holiday based on the Goddess "Ēsotre" of dubious historicity according to medieval historian Bede & Mabon's fabrication by Aiden Kelly based on the name of a Welsh folk hero.
Its used to fabricate stories about deities that may or may not be real, like Ēsotre mentioned above, and then connect her to the holiday of Easter, and then make a huge leap and connect that to real historical deities like Ištar. Which is also used as a false sense of persecution among neo-pagans.
It can be a weapon for racial/ethnic supremacists. For example, the idea that Hellenic Polytheism was a national religion unique to the Hellenes is pseudo-history used by the boarding on ethnic supremacist YSEE organization.
Not to mention all the horrific pseudo-history of the extremely antisemitic Satanism group that I won't name. That constantly claims Lucifer is a Sumerian God or whatever and spams the inboxes of neo-pagans/witches/polytheists.
Its used by new agers to validate their appropriation of traditions from Dharmic religions for their own inaccurate purposes.
Its used to support, often very racist, "ancient alien" claims.
I could keep going and going and going with fake history touted among neo-pagans, witches, polytheists, left hand path folk, occultists, and new agers that is dangerous but hopefully I've gotten my point across.
"Recreating Christian persecution in a way"
If its not abundantly clear from my above examples pseudo-history is used to fabricate a lot of Christian persecution claims that have serious negative impacts. I don't even know what you mean by this so honestly I'm not going to try arguing against it.
Bottom line: pseudo-history absolutely is harmful in a religious context.
🔹Sumerian Polytheism🔹
As for "deifying" her up in Sumerian Polytheism. No I am 100% against that. Don't deify up demons and claim its still Sumerian polytheism because it isn't— its modern demonolatry.
First, Lilith isn't Sumerian.
Second, demons have their place in Sumerian cosmology and I'm not going to deify them. If a demon was honored, such as Pazuzu, then I many honor them. But I will not view Sumerian/Mesopotamian demons as Diĝir.
Third, I am a revivalist with a heavy reconstructionist approach, I value the real history of Ancient Near Eastern religions, cosmologies, and mythologies with a particular focus on Sumerian times (Ur III and prior) for my own faith.
This means I will always stand against pseudo-history, debunk claims, and defend actual ANE & Sumerian history. Ancient cultures deserve to be respected and not lied about. Pseudo-history is a lie.
🔹Last Thoughts��
Please do not pray to Lilith for me the mention in the ask made me feel uncomfortable.
Just like the "recreating Christian persecution" sentence in your ask I don't understand the "fraudulent behavior" statement so I can't really address it.
Tone clarification: The tone of this post is meant to be informative and explanatory not hostile and argumentative.
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TL;DR Lil demons are not Lilith. Lilith is Jewish and I stand by my opinion that she is apart of a closed tradition. Pseudo-history is dangerous and I will always reject it.
EDIT: After reading their tags on this (x) and their rhetoric in the first reply to this post I think its better for me to not interact with this person. So I've decided to block. They've stated their stance and its literally just strawman arguments, many false equivalences, and whataboutisms; I have no time or patience for that. But this post is still useful as a rebuke against pseudo- history in our communities so I'll leave it up, I worked hard on it. I also deleted the original response post since it's redundant now. [Edit 2] The person has been extremely ableist towards me more than once, threatened me, tried to bypass my blocks, wished violent death on me more than once. I did report them and tumblr took one of their posts down... which is not enough but I won't waste my time trying to get tumblr moderators to do their job.
-not audio proof read-
#polytheism#paganism#levpag#lilith#cultural appropriation#letsdebunk#judaism#closed practices#disc horse#landof2rivers
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kinda ironic how i made this account right before i decided to recover.
it got bad, really bad. i wasnt myself and i couldnt hide it. i stopped replying to my friends, i snapped at my family. i stopped cleaning, i stopped taking care of myself. i was perishing.
i feel like the media romanticizes this disorder a lot, i know we do it a lot a lot. i think thats the only reason we can stand what we’re even doing is pretending that its cool.
i still struggle. its only been a few days and i want to sink into my disorder again so bad but i havent let myself. i was so mean, so isolated, so not MYSELF, i was so sad. i was comparing myself to every body i saw (still do, working on it) i was sobbing when i had to go out, i couldnt stand the sight of food. i was starving not just my body, i was starving my brain.
and you may ask, gracie what made you decide to recover? i was in an argument with my family and i talked about it with my mom, and no i didnt fess up but i was crying and i was like
“its not you guys” they assumed i hated them, she assumed i hated her. “i dont hate you- i just dont like-“ my voice cracked. my throat itchy and raw.
“you dont like?”
i pointed to myself.
in summary she told me that since i was a child, ive never really accepted myself. ive never been really happy with my appearance. not that i wasnt pretty, i look back to my childhood pictures and i was the prettiest kid but i was blind to it. she said that im pretty, that everything about me is good, that i shouldnt compare myself and i thought she was bullshitting me at first to be honest.
then i found pictures of me as a child the next day and they were so nostalgic. i looked so happy. so carefree. i cried because i would do anything for baby me. i cried because i wouldn’t starve that girl if she was in front of me. i would nourish her and hold her and compliment her. i would give her whatever she wanted and told her that she was worth the world.
i wont lie its been hard. ive had to take a break from this app bc its full of triggers but i decided to do this for me.
god my ed keeps screaming at me. it says im weak for doing this but in full honesty? this is the strongest thing ive had to do.
i had to pick me.
not other peoples opinions, not for looking good in pictures, or fitting clothes.
i have to pick my happiness, my joy, my brain, myself.
i know that talking to people with eds doesnt work, you cant pick for someone to recover. (i know bc it never worked for me) they have to do it for themselves. its hard and its gonna take some time. but im glad i did it.
its freeing and its scary. but its one of the best choices ive done.
let yourself free. i promise you. you’re beautiful, more than just what i see but your soul. your kindness and self. your interests and the things that make you laugh. you dont deserve what youre doing to yourself.
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Ok now as a follow up post let’s talk about the woman of the hour…..
HHAAAARRRUUUMMIIII!!!!!!! (This is the part where you clap and cheer)
Anywho!
I don’t really,,,care,,,for harumi to say the least. I get why people like her and hate her! And I really really am willing to hear people out when they do talk about why they hold these opinions, but! I unfortunately lean more towards the negative side of things…
And I’m gonna be honest! Im extremely extremely biased with literally all of my reasoning, so feel free to give your 2 cents if you want!
☆ My poopoo reasoning ☆
Its literally just because i dont like the way the writers are trying to pin her and lloyd together.
I KNOW ITS STUPID!!! like other than that,, i really like harumi! Her backstory's interesting, shes pretty, i feel like if she was just alitttlee bit better she could work well with the team (since it seems like shes a good guy now..), and shes just really cool! there are plenty of people who can explain their love for her so much better so go hunt those people down!!
but like when i say im not a fan of Lloydrumi (??) I kida really mean it :((
Its more the fact that it wouldnt be the healthiest relationship in my eyes?? Like, She literally resurected/summoned the absolute worst version of his dad, fucked up ninjago city for the 356th time, hunted down him and his friends, and so on so fourth.
I really honestly dont think he should be too keen on a relationship with her. and the argument could be made that since he fell for her at the start and he knows at heart shes a good person and what shes doing is the byproduct of her dealing with the grief of loosing both her parents and since lloyd basically had to go through the same thing he can sympathise with her motivations or whatever but STILL!!!
He shouldnt be so ready to trust her, and from the last i rember he kinda didnt! and neither did the rest of the team! We also kinda see in crysalized pt2 that lloyd LITERALLY tries to ignore her lowkey flirting!!! and does that count as manipulation???? does what she did at the start if their relationship count as manipulation??? She did say that she never loved him in the first place (correct me if im wrong) and also i dont really think shes in the right mindset for love! at this point shes literally just died and learned that evrything that shes been doing against the ninja was basically pointless! she needs time settle!!!! to process!! to i dont know be a better person!! Yeah she defended lloyd against the overlord but thats just one major step in a very long journey.
I think id be much more ok with Lloydrumi if they had some time to,,talk...???? be better?????? grow and learn together????
idk man,, and im sure theres someone out there who'd be much much better at explaining this than me.
THNKS FOR REASING!!!!!
#ninjago#lloydrumi#lloyd x harumi#not a fan yall#rambles#lloyd and harumi trust issues#lego ninjago#lloyd honestly has a shit taste in women#daddy issues and a half#dead mom and dad pick a struggle#TRY AGAIINNN#typos r bad im sorry#on my laptop again#long ass rant#sorry yall!
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in relation to romantic jealousy in specific though, like... it was never a big deal for me? even when my crush revealed that she was dating a guy the whole time and hiding it from me to not break my heart (really bad thing to do btw) I was just mad because she lied to me. I dont care if theres a guy. there could be 3 guys I wouldnt care. apparently both my friends from our group also had crushes on her and they were all in the opinion that I shouldnt have to know because I’m so passionate about my love that I would kill them if I knew but again, when I found out I got mad bc I was like why should I fucking care about that are you stupid
well that doesn’t matter much but lying is much much much worse than whatever you’re lying to me for. I just forgave her because I knew she had the kind of life where she had to fight for people to even tolerate her so of course her first instinct would be to lie to people to not upset them. I was different, but how could she really trust that? yknow. idk. that relationship had a lot of problems but I was never jealous of anything
she was, though -_- she didn’t like me talking to other girls or going out with my friends too much because she’d be all alone
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im lying idc here are my thoughts on it
the conflicts were. resolved. i think.
i feel like its a little too convenient that penelope just had to give a speech and suddenly all of society forgives her? and the queen is just like . hm well okay i'll let you keep writing. and then she just Leaves!
and like. how do i say this. its not a bad show, its just. maybe im not used to watching dramas like this, bc like, Most if not All of the conflicts between the love interests can be watered down to: They Dont communicate with each other, and that pisses me off So much. i understand why eloise was so upset at penelope but if she had just let her Explain herself. guys Please. season 1 was a nightmare, and i understand why simon was like that but if they just Talked to each other i- inhale exhale whatever. its fine.
dont even get me started on the sex scenes 😭😭😭😭😭 dont even actually i wont say anything <- ᵘⁿⁿᵉᶜᵉˢˢᵃʳᶦˡʸ ⁿᶦᵗᵖᶦᶜᵏʸ ᵃᵇᵒᵘᵗ ᵗʰᵉ ᵃᶜᶜᵘʳᵃᶜʸ ᵒᶠ ˢᵉˣ ˢᶜᵉⁿᵉˢ ᶦⁿ ᶠᶦˡᵐ ᵇᵉᶜᵃᵘˢᵉ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉˢ ˢᵒᵐᵉᵗʰᶦⁿᵍ ʷʳᵒⁿᵍ ʷᶦᵗʰ ᵐᵉ
ᵇᵘᵗ ᵃᶜᵗᵘᵃˡˡʸ ᶦ ᵗʰᶦⁿᵏ ᵗʰᵉ ˢᵉˣ ˢᶜᵉⁿᵉˢ ᵍᵒᵗ ᵍʳᵃᵈᵘᵃˡˡʸ ʷᵒʳˢᵉ, ˡᶦᵏᵉ ˢᵒᵐᵉʰᵒʷ ᵈᵃᵖʰⁿᵉ ᵃⁿᵈ ˢᶦᵐᵒⁿ ʰᵃᵈ ᵗʰᵉ ᵇᵉˢᵗ ˢᶜᵉⁿᵉˢ. ᵗʰᵉᶦʳ ᶠᶦʳˢᵗ ᵗᶦᵐᵉ ʷʰᵉⁿ ʰᵉ ᵃˢᵏᵉᵈ ʰᵉʳ ᶦᶠ ˢʰᵉ ʰᵃᵈ ᵗᵒᵘᶜʰᵉᵈ ʰᵉʳˢᵉˡᶠ ˡᶦᵏᵉ ʰᵉ ᵗᵒˡᵈ ʰᵉʳ ᵗᵒ ᵗʰᵃᵗ ʷᵃˢ ᵖʳᵉᵗᵗʸ ʰᵒᵗ. ᵗʰᵃᵗˢ ᵗʰᵉ ᵒⁿˡʸ ⁿᵒᵗᵉʷᵒʳᵗʰʸ ᵗʰᶦⁿᵍ ᶦ ᶜᵃⁿ ˢᵃʸ
ᶦᵐ ˡʸᶦⁿᵍ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ ᶦˢ ᵒⁿᵉ ᵐᵒʳᵉ ᵗʰᶦⁿᵍ ᶦ ʷᶦˡˡ ᵖᵒᶦⁿᵗ ᵒᵘᵗ. ᵗʰᵉ ˢᶜᵉⁿᵉ ʷʰᵉʳᵉ ᵃⁿᵗʰᵒⁿʸ ᶦˢ ᵐᵒᵛᶦⁿᵍ ᵗᵒ ᵉᵃᵗ ᵒᵘᵗ ᵏᵃᵗᵉ ᵃⁿᵈ ʰᵉ ᵈᵉᵃᵈᵃˢˢ ᶜᵒᵛᵉʳˢ ʰᶦˢ ᵉⁿᵗᶦʳᵉ ʰᵉᵃᵈ ʷᶦᵗʰ ᵗʰᵉ ᵇᵉᵈˢʰᵉᵉᵗˢ. ᶦ ᵘⁿᵈᵉʳˢᵗᵃⁿᵈ ᵗʰᵉ ⁿᵉᵉᵈ ᶠᵒʳ ᶜᵉⁿˢᵒʳˢʰᶦᵖ ᵇᵘᵗ ᶦᵗ ᶦˢ ˢᵒ ʰᶦˡᵃʳᶦᵒᵘˢˡʸ ᴼᵇᵛᶦᵒᵘˢ ᵗʰʳᵒᵘᵍʰᵒᵘᵗ ᵗʰᵉ ˢʰᵒʷ ᶦ ˡᶦᵗᵉʳᵃˡˡʸ ˡᵃᵘᵍʰᵉᵈ ᵒᵘᵗ ˡᵒᵘᵈ ᶠᵒʳ ˡᶦᵏᵉ ³ ᵐᶦⁿᵘᵗᵉˢ ᵈᵘʳᶦⁿᵍ ᵗʰᵃᵗ ˢᶜᵉⁿᵉ. ᵘʳ ᵏᶦˡˡᶦⁿᵍ ᵐᵉ ᵈᵘᵈᵉ. ʲᵘˢᵗ ᵘˢᵉ ʰᵉʳ ˢᵏᶦʳᵗ ᵒʳ ˢᵒᵐᵉᵗʰᶦⁿᵍ. ᵗʰᵉ ᵉⁿᵗᶦʳᵉ ᵇᵉᵈˢʰᵉᵉᵗˀ ᵒᵛᵉʳ ʸᵒᵘʳ ʷʰᵒˡᵉ ʰᵉᵃᵈˀ ᶦ ᶜᵃⁿᵗ
in my opinion the best parts of bridgerton were everything Outside of the main love interests each season, for example my favorite characters are lady danbury my goat🙏, benedict, and eloise. the critiques of patriarchal society were good too but i wish they kinda leaned into that more...? or rather, i get what they were going for but it feels. idk theres nuance to this and im not smart enough for it. sort of related but i liked portia more than i expected to. she literally was doing what she had to do i respect it
i feel like everyone kinda had understandable reasons to do what they did yknow? aside from not communicating with each other (cough cough daphne and simon, and kate and edwina and anthony) most of their actions made sense. im honestly kind of upset that cressida didnt have like a better ending? and i know that it doesnt excuse how mean she was and all she did to our protags, but i feel kinda bad for her, she was just doing what she understood was necessary for her survival, but like i get it yknow its whatever
francesca was such a nothing character, she literally couldve been entirely removed from the show and Absolutely nothing would change. why is she here? and like i Think her thing is that shes a closeted lesbian but either lean into that more and give her, i dont know, a CHARACTER, or give it to someone else! like eloise! is there something i missed with her?? idk 😭😭😭 love works in different ways ..??? she was just so Not the focus of the season at all and then when she Was she was so 🧍♂️ its hard for me to care about her maybe theres nuance here that im missing
these are also smaller things i noticed but its so. fucking funny to be watching a period drama set in the 1810s and fucking. violin rendition of cheap thrills by sia starts playing. cmon guys akfhsjfbsndbs it kind of takes me out of it a little bit 😭😭😭 ESPECIALLY DURING THE SEX SCENES IT HAPPENED IN ONE OF THEM i cant remember but i just i cant do it i cant do it guys 😭😭😭😭 dont be playing pop music in a period drama please 😭😭😭 but yknow at the end of the day its a romance netflix drama so maybe i shouldnt be nitpicking so much
apparently theres gonna be a season 4 and Apparently its going to focus on benedict 🙏🙏 my bisexual king hes just like me fr (im going to hate watching this season with my mom i know it)
my conclusion bc im just saying word vomit: it was an entertaining watch but i Hate watching characters just keep making their problems worse when theres probably a much easier solution to this. or maybe there isnt and im just stupid 👍🫡
i finally finished watching bridgerton with my mom and it was definitely. um. a show ,
i have . some thoughts. but i dont know if i care enough to share them
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i don’t think you’ve ever spoken abt this before (and if you have i’m sorry, I’m kinda new around here) but what are your thoughts abt stas/Colby/core4 and the whole situation? i’ve seen you’re not shea’s biggest fan and you’ve spoken about that before but not about core4 as much. is there a reason why? thank you anyways!
Welcome, anon!
I may have spoken about the Core 4 here and there, but it's probably been a while. I tend to just...kind of hand wave past things that don't interest me and that collective doesn't really interest me.
Believe it or not, I don't mean that in a bad way. I love snc, I'm happy they're happy, and as I mentioned before, I am the Switzerland (aka neutral territoy) of the girls...I just don't really have a need to get excited over a group of friends that post innocuous friend content, like making puzzles and getting fall down drunk at festivals. I mean, cool for them, happy they're thriving or whatever, but I'm not super invested.
I also don't really have an opinion on snc including them in their videos, mostly because they aren't in every one. I like that snc switches it up, so no one pairing of theirs gets stale (the way Jake and Corey did after a while). While there are a few people snc work with and collab with, or have collabed with in the past, that i actively dont fuck with (as the kids say), the girls aren't on that list. I don't mind them when they are there, I don't mind them when they aren't. Neutral territory.
Now, I assume when you say "the whole situation," you mean Colby and his inability to not vaguely start some kind of absurd shipping shit storm at any given opportunity? Because personally, I'm sick of that whole damn thing, lol.
I want to preface this by stating: I don't think there's anything going on with him and Stas, but if there was- I'm not going to lose sleep over it. Man could be romancing a tree, for all I care, as long as he's happy.
That being said- you brought up Shea for a reason, and its a valid one. This situation is feeling a little...familiar, shall we say? There's a lot of vaguery and egging on of the shipping and all of that going on, and thats gets me annoyed after a while.
That's not really the reason I disliked Shea, so much as the fact that she was manipulating young girls in her group chats and telling them private things she shouldnt have been telling them, and openly hating on girls Colby was associating with and then falsely claiming feminism when she got called out. The weird shit she used to do on social media was just the icing on a cake already full of piss and vinegar, really.
At some point, the both of them (more Stas than Colby from what I've seen, although he certainly threw a lit fucking match into a sewer with that whole "malishka" thing) need to realize that they're causing a lot more of the bad kind of drama than the fun and harmless kind, and knock it the fuck off. Stas...I don't know what her motivations are here, and I don't particularly care, tbh. It's getting tiresome.
As for Colby...good god, that man knows how to flip flop a crowd, eh? He started the day with everyone feeling bad for him because of how down he's been, and ended it with half of the fandom wanting to kill him for once again starting a grease fire on the kitchen stove and then running out of the house and going across the street to the park to peacefully do a sudoku puzzle while the community burns down around him.
Man should give social media classes, lmao.
Anyway, to summarize: my opinion on the Core 4 and the horribly written Core 4 soap opera going on right now can be summarized with one word- meh. 1.6/5 stars.
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Attack on Titan S4 pt2 Ep12 (2/2)
again SPOILER WARNING. now lets get straight to it
OH GOSH WHAT TO SAY ABT THIS WHOLE 'do they love each other in a more than family way' PART OF THE EP.
i WILL acknowledge that its heavily implied that eren loves her as more than family so lets just assume that sure, he does love her like that.
in the left pic, eren literally looks desperate to hear that she thinks of him as more than just family. and then the right pic is him knowing that even if she reciprocated nothing should even happen. he doesnt have that much longer to live; he most likely feels that he shouldnt get anymore involved w her otherwise itd just be more painful to leave her
putting focus on the beginning and middle of the ep w mikasa's monologue: we could see that she was blushing when he asked her what he was to her so that obvi might imply that she loves him more than just family. but she didnt say that w the "you are family" part. BUT IF EREN DID HEAR THAT where she said that she loves him more than family, that still begs that question that mikasa ponders in the middle of the ep: would he change course if she had said smth else at the time aka she loves him more than family? would he change his plans to protect the woman he loves (IF he loves her like that and IF he properly knew that she reciprocated?)
considering hes been shown to be a very idealistic man and we always see him strongly stick to his ideals no matter what, would it have even made a difference if mikasa's answer was different?
i honestly think no, nothing would change if mikasa's answer was different. i think he was just looking for that confirmation. what he would do with that information, most likely not a lot bc he knows he has stuff to do. i dont think he would throw away his ideals for a woman he loves, he just doesnt seem to be that kind of guy. YES he cares abt her so so much (and his friends whom he considers family at this point) but he just wants her and everyone else to live on happily and peacefully whether or not hes there with them as he says he wants them to.
THE WAY THEY USED THE VERY FIRST LISTED OST TRACK 'attack ON titan' IN THIS FINAL SEGMENT AHHHHH IT WAS USED PERFECTLY. WHEN KOBAYASHI MIKA STARTED HER BEAUTIFUL AND POWERFUL SINGING, I COULDNT HELP BUT GET SO HYPED
THE BIGGEST THING THAT SHOCKED ME THIS EP. LOOK AT HIM. DADDY LONG ARMS RIGHT THERE. HE LOOKS SO MENACING. AND HOW LONG IS HIS BODY TF. CAUSE IF THATS THE HEAD HOW FAR BACK IS THE REST OF THE BODY. and how tf doES HE EVEN M O V E.
this is such a good frame of tiny eren. this is the moment that started his journey on finding out just how big the world really is
THIS FRAME IS ABSOLUTELY INSANE. AND AGAIN HOW LONG IS THE BODY.
call back to the first ep man. LOOK AT THAT PARALLEL. a colossal titan making its way into a city? AINT THE FIRST TIME WEVE SEEN IT.
So to go off of the very first line of ep 12 "Everyone says that Eren has changed.": In my opinion, eren hasnt changed one bit since he was a kid. this boy has made it abundantly clear that his mindset is always 'the enemy should be and needs to be removed' whatever 'removed' entails. theres him beating up the neighborhood bullies bc they were the enemy to the weaker kids they could pick on aka armin. theres him killing the bandits bc they were the enemy to the ppl that he and his dad were visiting. theres him wanting to kill titans bc he saw them as the true enemy of the walls (before he found out the full truth). and now theres him wanting to wipe out the whole world's population (except for paradis island) since theyre the enemy that views the island as the enemy.
ALSO CAN WE JUST TALK ABT THE ABSOLUTE TRAUMA THIS MAN HAS GONE THROUGH. first of all, dealing w finding out the future when he touched historia's hand. he found out about everything thats happening now and then also past this. AND HE COULDNT TALK TO ANYONE ABOUT IT EITHER. who would think that he wasnt crazy for saying that hes going to start the rumbling and kill of civilization outside of paradis island? SO HE HAD TO INTERNALIZE IT. THERES NO WAY HE'D BE MENTALLY OK AFTER FOUR YEARS OF THAT.
AND THEN THERE WAS THE SCENE AT THE END WHERE HE NEEDED TO FAKE BEING A WOUNDED SOLDIER SO HE COULD EVENTUALLY MAKE CONTACT WITH FALCO ETC ETC. THE ABOSLUTE A N G U I S H. i can see why his eyes look completely dead. he's gone through so much.
ANYWAYS. that concludes this season.
also YES im very happy that theyre making attack on titan the final season part 3 despite the terrible naming (they knew this would happen why the heck did they do this to themselves). i dont care what anyone says. this series is legendary. i cannot WAIT for the ending (despite manga readers saying theyre disappointed with it). i wanna see how this beautiful series (canonically) marks its end.
#attack on titan: the final season#attack on titan final season#attack on titan#shingeki no kyojin final season#shingeki no kyojin#eren jaeger#kaji yuki
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Genuine question are you out to like everyone? If so, did you have a mental hurtle to get over? If not, do you want to some day? Lastly do you have any advice for someone struggling to justify coming out?
This got a bit long winded so ill put it under a cut 💜
im out to everyone except my family.
yes, i struggled a lot with coming out to myself and most of the people around me. i was about 7 when i learnt what being a lesbian meant because my sister would use it as an insult to me and call me a “stupid lesbian”, then my mother said that she would be “disappointed” if one of her children was gay :) so that had a lot of impact on me even to this day. the main mental hurtle was shame, i felt disgusting and wrong and broken. I would often cry about it and felt like i was worthless, and would actively try to ignore this part of myself (which didnt work). i was about 14 when i came out for the first time. and honestly, i felt worse afterwards. i came out as bi at the time because that was how i felt, i was still convinced i could be attracted to boys and just chose to marry a guy and never have to deal with it (i know thats not how being bi works but 14 year old me had a lot of internalised homophobia)
After i came out, i felt really idk wrong and gross, mainly because i now realised like this was a part of my identity that i was stuck with and i had to accept that one day i would make my mum disappointed because her daughter is gay.
once i turned 17 i had come out to most of my friends, the reason was that i had started to attempt to feel okay with being gay by making jokes, and i didnt want them thinking i was homophobic akdasjd. it still felt weird and uncomfortable coming out honestly, because i wasnt comfortable with my identity and it kinda felt rushed i guess? i felt like i needed to tell everyone i could so then i would have to feel okay with it. idk i had no logic to it i just wanted to stop feeling wrong.
i do hope to be out to my family one day and not care about their opinions but i know that wont happen soon, im just not ready for them to know and that is perfectly okay.
My advice is that coming out is overrated in a sense. its not going to magically make you feel loved and accepted, and i wish id been told that as a child so i didnt feel rushed to come out to all my friends. if you dont want to tell anyone, dont. its no ones business but your own. the closet exists for a reason: for you to feel safe. if you feel safer and happier not announcing to everyone your sexuality you dont have to.
a thing that really helped me was tumblr honestly. seeing how many people on here arent cishet made me feel less alone and it also made me stop associating the word “lesbian” with an insult (i didnt use lesbian as a term for myself until i was 20 because up until then it still felt like a bad thing that my sister used to insult me), so if you want to start feeling ready to come out, id say start small and online. you dont need to post a coming out post, you can just add your identity to your bio on tumblr and bam, youve just come out in a casual way.
you shouldnt feel pressured or feel the need to justify coming out. you can tell whoever you want whenever youre ready, theres no rush. its perfectly okay to keep it to yourself, and its equally as okay to shout it from the rooftops, you just need to do whatever feels right for you
#lmao this turned into therapy with allie#sorry this took me a bit to reply i wanted to do it properly#and i cant be bothered to proof read this so im sorry if it doesnt make sense kakjsdahsd#anonymous#asks
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I agree with Kishimoto never trying to use the girls. The hate they get is not fair. I used to defend Sakura back in the days because I hoped kishi would do her justice. When shippuden started I WAS SO HAPPY because I thought this was the start of something great for Sakura and the girls but NOOOOO. Every time, Sasuke showed kishi turned her brainless. If you compare Naruto's actions and Sakura's actions to sasuke, you'd see they're completely different. What's up with that weird fake love confession scene 😭? It makes her look like she was manipulating Naru. JEEZ.
Also he literally had badass Tenten and Temari with cool useful abilities and he didn't use them ?! TF ?! Thank god for modern authors who treat their characters with respect :)
okay2 you know how i am with these longass rants so click readmore and brace yourselves
The way I see it, Sakura's character development in shippuden was always one step forward, two steps back. She gets this really badass scene (like her fight with Sasori and those cool ass medical skills) but is then regressed back into a pining girl in love every time Sauce is on screen or Kishi just throws her in the background YET AGAIN.
I love Sakura's abilities actually. Her brute strength, intelligence, vast knowledge and skill as a medic nin. But what I dislike about her character is how kishi handled her feelings for Sasuke. Naruto and Sakura's obsession with Sasuke was so???? huh??? it was so damn toxic and i never once understood why both Nardo and Sak were so obsessed with him. They were a team for one year???? I mean its great that they care about him alot but Sauce's feelings were kinda valid. His freakin clan died. Id go batshit crazy against my own village too. BUT BESIDES THAT. Both Nart and Sakura's Sasuke obsession was so annoying. 80% of shippuden was literally Keeping up with the Uchihas or Naruto yelling SASUKEH. BUT what irks me so much is the fandom's double standards with both Naruto and Sakura. "Oh Sakura shouldve gotten over her Sasuke obsession" but then turn around and call Naruto's obsession cute and gush about how he's so in love with him!!
Hot take but the only reason why sasunaru is "the most developed ship with the most chemistry" is because theyre both male characters.
I guarantee you if Naruto was a girl and SHE would be the one to have this unhealthy obsession who was chasing around Sasuke, the fandom would shit on Naruto just as much. And if Sasuke were a girl, Sauce would be sidelined like the rest of the female cast and Naruto would have another male character to have a "brotherly bond" with, because thats the only bond Kishimoto is actually good at developing. Yey for male characters having all the screentime and cool assets <333
And about that confession scene, I get her intentions. I really do. I understand that she did that in order to bring him home and that she cares about him but honey, w-why?? Why lie to him about your feelings?? Supposed he DID believe her, then what? then what kishi???? huh??? Some of her fans point the blame on Sai or whatever but I personally dont see why that scene was at all necessary. Maybe to establish Naruto's feelings for her wasnt all that serious? or his maturity? idk man. That scene was such a clusterfuck.
In the end her development in The Last and in Boruto was immaculate. She had one of the best glow ups in the old gen and ironically enough, her character wasn't butchered in Boruto. She got badass scenes she was cheated from in shippuden. I also love how she's finally getting the spotlight she deserves. Unlike the other konoha 12 :,)))
Okay onto the next female character that Kishi completely wasted. My baby. My light. 🙈 AAAHHH HINATAA.
I DONT EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN OKAY2 DEEP BREATHS.
Let me just establish this real quick. Hinata's goal was to get stronger because of Naruto, her goal was never to be with Naruto. She wanted to become someone who is worthy enough to stand beside him, someone whom he can consider as an equal, as a partner. She NEVER once said "marrying Naruto-kun is my all time goal UwU" (if youre one of those weirdos who interpret her character that way, youre immediately invalid, go take a hike)
I personally dont have anything against their crushes but to the point of making their personalities revolve around these guys every time theyre onscreen is so fucking frustrating. And with the way he writes their dialogues is so.damn.cringey. Like that one scene in the war arc with Tsunade and Madara
"I mAy bE a WomAn but I aM nOt WeAAKKKK"
BAAHAHAAHHA WHAT?? Everyone else gets coolass monologues and one liners but thats the best you can come up with Kishi?????? Hilarious.
If im being honest. Hinata's character is actually kinda well written. Not well executed. Dear God no. But with the way he set her story, her personality, her chracterization. She's honestly one of the best written female characters on the show. IMO. By Kishi's standards of writing women ofc. She's hands down one of the most complex characters. Her shy personality wasnt out of the blue, it wasnt a cutesy waifu trait. Her abusive upbringing made her that way. Her trauma turned her that way. So yeah, sue her if she looked up to Naruto as an inspiration when everyone else in her family treated her like dust. Shit on her for having Naruto's love light in her dark when her own damn father wouldnt even look her in the eye and her entire clan shunned her because she was "weak." She doesnt owe her family shit so idgaf what they do with the Hyuga clan. Neji and Hanabi aren't included btw
Im not gonna deny that her role in the show was only as the love interest but tbh for a love interest, Im glad her character wasnt so one dimensional. It just pains me SO MUCHHH how fucking wasted she is. Every time she's with Naruto, they always make her into a damsel in distress. They always feel the need to turn Naruto into the heroic prince. How cute.
LIKE THAT ONE SCENE IN THE LAST WHERE SHE'S THROWN IN THE CAGE?? WHY??? LET NARUTO AND HINA FIGHT THAT FREAKING ALIEN GOD TOGETHER. QUIT WITH THE TOXIC MASCULINITY. WE GET IT. NARUTO'S STRONG. GOOD FOR HIM. NOW LETS SEE HINATA THROW HANDS AND PUT NARUTO IN THE CAGE GODAMMIT
Hnggggg dont get me started with her role in Boruto. She's as relevant as a damn houseplant in the manga. They made her into an invisible trophy wife and "the mc's mother" and we all KNOW what happens to the shounen mc's mother once mc is in need of character development :) Quit putting her in the background. Give us that scene where she won against Hanabi DESPITE being retired for years. Give us that scene where she trains Boruto. GIVE US ANY FIGHT SCENE OF HER WHERE HER POTENTIAL ISNT WASTED WTF?¿
Now if you say that Hinata didnt have development. YOURE INVALID. She came from an abusive household, the shyest girl in her class, her insecurities got in the way of her own confidence, had difficulty of standing up for herself now became a loving mother of two, has the guts to kick her husband out of the house(with whom she couldnt even keep eye contact with when she was a kid) became the strongest hyuga, most supportive wife and mother, and has given her kids the comforting childhood she never had as a kid.
She has one of the most beautiful stories in the show and if you think her personality is only Naruto-kun and big boobs, then im sorry that you cant appreciate such a heartwarming story.
And I agree, killing her would honestly make me feel more at ease than continue to see her suffer because of godawful misogynistic writers. But at least let her die in an epic fight. Please. PLEASEE. She got nerfed so bad, i feel a physical pain every time i think about it
Okay what else. I think Ino got pretty good development. Another wasted potential in shippuden but she's doing good for herself in Boruto. I dont know what Temari is up to. They basically made her into another classic angry mom who beats up her husband for comedy trope. Haha very funny and original! Im not sure with her career, im not that invested in the anime.
Tenten??
oh G O D Tenten. The dirtiest of all. Her jokes about her screentime is so mean and i hate that its true ahsjhs. She was the only female character in OG who's goal wanted to be as strong as Tsunade but what did Kishi do to her?? Sidelined. Forgotten. Irrelevant. Like every damn female on the show :D
Konan shouldnt have died. I blame plot armor. I know in my heart that Konan wouldve kicked Obito's ass if it weren't for Kishi's boomer mindset.
Tsunade had so much hype when she was introduced but died down in the war arc. Madara wiped the floor with the kages. Holy shit. Not only that, but yipee! Naruto is there to save the day AGAIN!!!!
AND UGHHHH If the female characters were given proper treatment then maybe MAYBE all the endgame couples wouldve made fucking sense????¿¿¿
I think that ends my rant. Im not sure how the female characters in Boruto are handled. Except maybe Sarada (she's pretty well executed in the manga imo). But arguably they are sooo much better handled in Boruto than how the old gen girls were. And thats because Kishi isnt anywhere near the new gen female cast. I cant formulate a solid opinion with the other new gen female cast since im not entirely invested in the anime. Not ashamed to admit that I only watch it for the sunshine moments and for Hinata :DD
#and *scene#salty char.txt#char complains about Naruto AGAIN#yey#please end my suffering#i need to leave this fandom what am i still doing here#naruto#day 202 of WTF KISHI#i think i got that out of my system
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anti LO anon opinions:
1) I pointed out the same opinion about thanatos on why he should care and a fan responded that he shouldnt have a say on hades and persephones relationship because he was making out with minthe while they were still dating...
2) I’m just so annoyed LO Persephone’s visual maturity is all in terms of hades. It’s via how he wants her to dress, how he wants her to act, via what he wants her to enjoy and do. He’s never once gone out of his comfort zone for her or branched out to see what she wants and enjoys or even really ask, meanwhile she does everything he wants at the drop of a hat. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. This isn’t a couple of balance and compromise, its not even one of real respect, it’s just the woman making herself whatever she wants her future husband to be while he does nothing but throw money at her as “affection”. It’s essentially her having to do whatever Demeter wants, which was framed as bad, but this time it’s whatever Hades wants, so now it’s good? She still isn’t really given the choice, now is she?
3) i really have to question why LO keeps framing "dark" persephone as the queen and wife of hades because that side is framed as basically a different character who has popped out before and very purposely has said it doesnt like hades and sees him as weak and not worth their time. it also has it that persephone doesnt like or even control this side of her so its like??? is the endgame the real persephone being trapped inside herself by this evil persona and hades is married to someone who doesnt love him/outright hates him? this wouldnt be an issue if they just let Persephone be a complex character who had light and darkness in her instead of insisting at every turn she stay a “precious cinnamon roll” at all times that you need to create an out there alt-personality to explain everything away 🤔
4) LO has the regressive idea that women are all innocent victims unless stated otherwise (such as having a sex life outside Hades (Minthe, Aphrodite) or not falling at his feet (Hestia, Demeter)). The thing is, women, no matter how "precious" they are, are capable of being bad people. It'd make sense Persephone the "dread queen" would actually be cruel and not nice and even the scarier of the two of them, but the comic wont commit to it, so everyone else has to be wrong instead
5) I would be more willing to hate LO Thanatos if it weren’t for the fact Persephone is a mega rich heiress who has everyone coming to her defense for merely existing including his mega rich CEO boss meanwhile the comic seems to imply Nyx (and by extension her family like Thanatos) lost their status and power once the Big Three like Hades came to power, reducing them to subordinates and powerless to his wants and desires. It’d like an Amazon warehouse worker calling out how unfair their working conditions are only to be told “yeah well Bezos got divorced last year and he’s really sad about it, feel bad for him instead and forget your problems.” Why should I feel bad for a bunch of rich jerks who won’t face an real consequences and demean the ones who can’t stand up to them?
6) Regarding the recent LO chapter with Thanatos and Daphne talking about Persephone and Hades's relationship. I can kinda understand from both the perspectives: 1) Thanatos is a long-term employee for Hades so he has a better viewpoint of seeing the special treatment between Hades and Persephone up close. His feelings are partially influenced by his negative peers (Thetis and Minthe) who outright dislikes Persephone. But in his perspective: He is a longtime employee at a company who worked their way to a high position, and then one day your employer starts to hire someone younger and gives said younger colleague special treatment and attention (along with a big paycheck that most interns shouldn't be paid for). Part of the reason can also be that the said younger colleague is both their family background (being the child of one of the Six Traitors) and being very youthful and attractive2) Daphne only sees the relationship from an outsiders perspective and is partially defensive for her longtime friend. She is aware of Hades and Persephone's unusual relationship but also means well at knowing not to pry into others personal lives.
7) I think that in lo to protect "our precious cinammon roll" Daphne could said that maybe that is Hades fault not hers bc he give her special treatment and his bad boss. This would at least show that there is unfairness at his job, that he is rightfuly angry just maybe at wrong person. It would be at least better than "dont care about this lol"
8) Persephone in lo only work 1 actual day of work. Her first day is only a tour, on her second day she work, on third day she isnt working bc she learn how to use computer and now she sometimes try to do something with work while flirting with hades, so maybe she worked 1,5 day of work in total. It isnt surprise thst she didnt work a lot since its been 13 days in comic
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When Calls the Heart Live Ramples
Season 8 episode 9 Pre Wedding Jitters
That scene in 👏Nathan's 👏office👏 The lines they wrote for Kevin *chef's kiss* perfection. I mean, I still dont like this whole secret reveal thing. I think it's so dumb. Like, ain't no way the writers intended Nathan to have this secret when he first came to the show. I don't think he was suppose to have any secret at all. I mean, this whole, 'There's something he's not telling me' thing came out of nowhere. That aside, the love confession was great, again, and he left Elizabeth speechless again and she ran away, AGAIN. That tells me all I need to know. She cannot deny this man BECAUSE SHE LOVES HIM. And if y'all think otherwise than you're delusional.
The game at the bachelorette party. It was obvious from the promo for this episode how this would play out. She reaches for Nathan's hands and thinks he's the one. (I was predicting that she would know it was Nathan and then feel uncomfortable and move on, but that didnt happen. She thought he was Lucas *bleh. Though I was still right in thinking Nathan would be 'the one' during this little game). We like that. I really liked how the party scene lasted longer than I expected. It wasnt even too long of a scene, but it was definitely long for When Calls the Heart. This show really needs to work on it's pacing. Everything happens so fast bc they have to cut to the millions of side plots that happen in every episode. My gosh, would they give us some focus please.
When Lucas came by Elizabeth's house in the morning I enjoyed that they interacted more casually with each other it seemed, at least it did on Elizabeth's part. Just through small details like the way she was casually leaning in the doorframe or her tone of voice. She wasnt so awkwardly polite...but Lucas still was. Lucas is so polite it's uncomfortable. Like I don't feel like anybody could just be themselves around him, bc it's like every meeting has this awkward air of being polite to an acquaintance you dont know well. Ugh it's so weird. I didnt like that Elizabeth told him Nathan's reveal. I feel she should have kept that to herself. Ugh and then Lucas wanted to act all protective and 'talk' to Nathan. Oh please. That is not his place. Elizabeth is obviously the one who needs to talk with Nathan and it's no one else's business what goes in between them, besides Allie of course. And speaking of Allie, I thought her scenes were really good and thoughtful. I still think it was weird that Lucas got her a gift for her adoption ceremony, but whatever we are past that now. I like that her character is being more mature about everything too. I really hope we get a scene where Allie and Elizabeth have their own conversation though. They need it. I'm not sure how I feel about that obvious Paul (Florence's son) having a crush on Allie. It seems that the writers will want them to like each other. I guess it could be cute? It's just a little awkward bc we havent seen this Paul kid around before so it creates a weird air that the only reason he shows up now is to be a school crush for Allie. Eh. Jaeda was great though and I think she did her scenes well.
After Lucas and E talked, I think it's obvious to Lucas that Elizabeth has strong feelings for Nathan and that she's just running away from them. I mean, she told Lucas that when Nathan told her he loves her all she could do was say nothing and just leave. *holds out arms and stares with a 'well, there you have it' expression'* IT DOESNT GET ANY CLEARER THAN THAT. I wonder if the writers will make Lucas step down bc he cant be with someone who will never love him. Idk how Lucas will react honestly, Lucas's character is such a mystery to me I could never know what he would do in a situation that didnt involve setting up a perfectly romantic date or sweet talking someone with an annoyingly, unrealistic, perfectly understanding polite response.
Elizabeth was also super rude to the people she cares about in this episode. The way she talked to Rosemary. First, she didnt like hearing what Rosemary had to say, which implies that she may have been blaming Nathan for Jack's death. That is such a horrible thing to hold against someone. I mean I could understand why she would feel that way but just for a moment. I mean she should understand how completely wrong and irrational that thought process is and that she shouldnt blame Nathan. TWO, then she had the nerve to tell Rosemary something like 'why would you think that comment would help me right now'. Wow Elizabeth. Gee, maybe she's saying the truth and she's also your friend and just trying to talk things through and give her opinion as a way to help you through your difficult situation. God forbid she doesnt say the perfect thing that you needed to hear at that time, she can't read your mind. I thought that was incredibly rude. It hurt to see Rosemary hurt. And then later she told her that she should leave her house. *SCOFF* man, she was really hitting Rosemary hard this episode. If I were in Rosemary's shoes, yes I would be hurt, but I think I would mostly be understanding of what Elizabeth might be going through and not take anything personally. E's lucky that Rose is such a good friend. OH! What Rosemary told Nathan in the library! She totally implied with her little metaphor comparison that Nathan was making Elizabeth unhappy by getting in the way of true love, i.e. Lucas and Elizabeth. I-- wow! Everyone is against this man. I'm so glad that Nathan stands firm. I mean he knows that Elizabeth feels strongly for him based off her reactions to his honesty with her and how she never denies anything and just runs away. I mean, it's plain as day. Let's not forget the *speechless gaze into each other's eyes* 'I can't' from Honestly, Elizabeth.
I think that's it regarding the love triangle. I absolutely despise the Faith and Carson relationship. And I cant believe they made him say, come with me to Baltimore and we can see in a year if we want to get married. That is so dumb. He just asked Faith to drop everything and leave her life in Hope Valley for a 'I might break up with you in a year' situation. Dumb. This is definitely out of character for Carson. It's obvious the writers are just trying to get rid of him and make him not be missed by the audience. They clearly want us to favor Faith, but she couldnt be more annoying honestly. I wish she were leaving and Carson would stay in Hope Valley. But whatever.
I dont like how every side plot seems to be about some couple's budding relationship. I mean aside from the love triangle, we have Florence and Ned, Molly and Bill, Clara and Jesse (though not a budding relationship, it's still all about their relationship) and now Rachel and Christopher and oh yes also Fiona and whoever that guy is and wow I'm still missing Faith and Carson. Thats 6 other romantic relationships in the show (not including the also important one of Rosemary and Lee) and I'm probably leaving one out. Oh yes, now possibly Allie and Paul. 7. Seven relationship side plots!!! Omg I'm going crazy!! They need to learn how to write some actual plot! What happened to town problems and family drama! Thank goodness we have Henry Gowen and his son (cant believe I just complimented that out of nowhere concept but hey) and the oil thing with Lucas and Henry, barely ever a plot line. This show needs better writing. There's no glue holding the town together and even when there is, it's so small or happens so fast that it doesnt have any long lasting and meaningful affect.
If I weren't so invested in Elizabeth's plotline and in need of some wholesome tv, I would have stopped watching a long time ago. Oh and the last thing. The mention of Abigail. I'm so glad Henry mentioned her because she was very important to him and his character growth. His character arc is one of the saving graces of the show and it needs to be given more attention.
Okay in short, Elizabeth was hecka rude, Nathan is wonderful and so was that office scene. We also stan Allie. Next week's episode also looks like a dud and I dont think much will happen.
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