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skyartworkzzz · 11 months ago
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COTL Heket brainstorming + religious ramble about Gluttony
Thinking about the forms sins can manifest as in order to develop my versions of the Bishops...............
I been thinking a lot bout Heket specifically since someone pointed out that she could be sexually experienced, for Gluttony could involve taking pleasure in all forms of consumption (at least thats the way I saw it based on this idea-)
Which brings me to understand this sin as a whole tbvh, I always knew that every sin had many ways of manifesting themselves, but I never saw Gluttony as smtng beyond actions related to food. So Ive come to this understanding: Gluttony is the never-ending search for smtng to appease this hollowness inside of you. No matter what you put inside your body, ure never able to fill in the gap. This then allows this sin to extend to emotional dependence, drug usage, sexual addiction, anxiety-induced hunger and so on
Which brings me to the assumption that, based on my understanding of this, my Heket is very miserable Ever since becoming a Crown Bearer, she slowly developed a feeling that something was missing and was always trying to fill it in with whatever that she deemed to bring joy. Sacrifices, food, some sexual experiences here and there, but nothing ever actually made her feel genuinely happy. As time went by, she started to not enjoy the taste of things anymore, every food tasted the same and every other pleasure felt meaningless, like it was all on automatic. A chore she felt the need to fulfill, but not because she really wanted to
When she became a follower and the first thing she felt was hunger, I like to think that, this time, it felt real. She felt like it ached more than usual, like it wasnt some pain she had to make sure to medicate once in a while. This time she was actually hungry and craving to be "medicated" And once she had her food - offered by the Lamb - she finally felt that emptiness filling in a little. Finally tasted the food that was in her mouth again and remembered what it felt like to feel something Needless to say, I think she would cry once full. Involuntarily, but also happy to be feeling even that
Ofc she wouldnt admit to this, especially in front of the Lamb, but a part of her is really relieved to finally be free from the Crown of Famine's influence
The numbness she experienced for millenia surely left its scars, but I think Heket would be the most excited Bishop when in the face of new emotions and experiences, now truly taking pleasure in them
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dododan · 2 months ago
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Can I take him on a date please? PLEASE?!
You surprised Him with your courage. Perhaps at another time He would have rejected your proposal.
Not because he doesn't want to have fun. He is the God of Pestilence. Spending time with him is reserved only for those most trusted believers and his spouses.
He is not stupid, even his own faithful if they consider it an act of faith can hurt you.
But this time Kallamar didn't sense evil or warped intentions from you. Besides, he has been very bored lately.
That's why he doesn't see any contraindications.
So, Mortal, what do you propose for our date?
He said in a low voice, gently mussing your hand. A blush covered your face, and the God of Pestilence smiled cocky. He loved to tease his followers. That helplessness of theirs.
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One person made me think about the concept of spouses in my interpretation of Cotl~.
@lemonlamblaura
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A couple of people have already seen Margo and Heket, so it's time for such a collective explanation of how the bishops view spouses and whether they even have them.
Shamura:
Currently, the Shamura do not have spouses. They only have a trusted circle of acolytes.
The God of War views spouses as some version of acolytes. Acolytes act as disciples - trusted believers who, in addition to being extremely loyal, see more than other believers. They ask questions and want to know. Help the cult grow. They are not blind believers who merely follow orders. They act as helpers in leading worship, while spouses, according to Shamura, have a more social role. They are the persons who convey God's will, but they are also their companion for conversation or spending time. The spouse is supposed to make God perceived more materially. He also serves as a person who entertains and deals with relationships in worship.
For Shamura, the spouse is not someone romantic. Not anymore.
I have an idea about Shamura's story, that before she found her siblings she had a spouse and was in love with a mortal man with reciprocity. But love was cruel to them because of which they decided that Mortals and Gods could not enter into a romantic relationship. There are too many differences between Mortals and Gods for them to speak one language. Their siblings do not know
Kallamar:
He has had several spouses. He currently has three (two women and one man). Like Shamura, he sees spouses as certain people for companionship and more direct contact with the faithful. Enjoy spending time on something other than worship management. He does not see spouses as romantic companions, although he enjoys such benefits.
Kallamar values his spouses and even likes them, but knows that they cannot offer him the true love that mortals share with each other. This makes him feel lonely, and for a brief moment he tries not to think that for his spouses, love and deep faith are often one and the same thing. He wishes he could one day see in their mind only love for him as a person, and not love/faith for God. He is very romantic, and likes to spoil his spouses, but sometimes he falls into a kind of frown because of this, so his spouses know that then it is better to avoid him, because they are not able to relieve him.
Naridner:
Officially, there is no spouse.
Many including his siblings (with the exception of Heket) believe that Narinder, as the God of Death, best understands the differences between Gods and Mortals. Therefore, he will never have a spouse, because he knows that love is not for them.
But the truth is that he has a secret lover whom he loves with a sincere and deep love. Naridner sees love as the only pure emotion that allows him to feel alive. He has always been fascinated by love, although he has tried to hide it from Shamura and Kallamar, knowing their opinions on the subject.
Love intrigued him. He saw how much love was pursued by mortals, mourning those who had passed away. How, as part of that love, they can do anything even face it.
Narinder's lover is Forneus. She was the only one who saw his sensitive side and went from being his trusted acolyte to lover. Aym and Baal are his biological children.
Heket:
At first she saw love as something trivial and also impossible for the Gods. More as something unattainable like Kallamar than as something inappropriate like Shamura. However, after conversations with Narinder and meeting Margo, she began to open up to love. She doesn't want to reveal more about her, as she wants to continue the story of their love “Immortal Love” after the new year.
But it will have only Margo.
Leshy:
For now, what I'm talking about is the time before Narinder's betrayal, and back then Leshy was too young to have a spouse. He was not yet a full-fledged God then (his powers/crown were not fully awakened). And between his reaching maturity and Narinder's betrayal, he did not yet have a spouse.
I think this concept doesn't interest him at all even after Nari's betrayal/before the Lamb's Crusade. If it happened that someone would be brave or foolish enough to propose marriage to the God of Chaos, he would not likely enjoy this role for long. For him, spouses would be a kind of toys with which he can do more without any consequences.
Kallamar hears his followers
What happens when you call God a "baby girl"?
When the God of Pestilence is adored
He is gentle at times
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melled42 · 5 months ago
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Does Nari ever initiate flirting? Or does he just suck hard at it?
he is but its not his fault. the whole family is bad at it, they've all been gods for so long, they just expect people to want them, they have NO RIZZ... except Kallamar. Kallamar was big into the social dance that is courting, the only thing that really changed is he has time to spend with them on their level instead of their god.
Narinder doesn't understand keeping his damn thoughts to himself and no idea whats normal in a friendship these days, much a relationship so he's stuck being between being emotionally constipated by anger and saying/doing the most intimate thing you can think of without know it.
Leshy just assumes someone he likes enough to be around is now their partner and will not at all change the way he acts on any level, just be confused when he's "confessed too" since they're already basically married
Heket is so used to having people brought to her and turning them down, she has no idea how to actually flirt even when she can communicate and freezes up
And shamura, in their right mind, would just change the subject or talk past any kind of flirting because they don't want. When not in their right mind, they just act confessed. Sometimes they act confessed even when they're not because its easier.
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canadianno · 6 months ago
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1) why did the sheep choose to model themselves after the mystic seller?
2) How exactly did they get to make that choice?
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2a) Does this mean other species did the same with previous gods?
3) Is there a deeper reason for Narinder stealing spellbooks? Or does he just do it for fun?
4) Why would Shamura be mad at Heket and Narinder for performing a growing spell? (with recent comic as context)
I had a couple more in mind but then realized you might be exploring them in future chapters/comics so i will keep my mouth shut
Giving you the highest of fives rn. I needed this thank you mutual 🙏🙏
SO! The silly questions. Let's begin>:]
1) In-au, this information is hazy, due to the sheep people not tending to write things down, and alot of the stuff they did write down being destroyed. But, as the creator of the au, I will tell you anyways!
In my au, the Mystic Seller is invisible to the mortal eye- this is, however, by its own choice. Gods can see them, also by their own choice. However, occasionally a mortal will be granted sight of them- usually for specific reasons. Millennium ago, the Mystic Seller became intrigued by a people in the mountains of Concolor, who were trying to ensure something or another- I've never quite decided what they were doing here, but in short the Mystic Seller decided to reveal themselves to the leader of the group and give them a quota to fill within a certain amount of time. The leader was infatuated by the Mystic Seller, and even after completing the challenge and receiving a crown, they asked the Mystic Seller to stay. That new god told their people of the Mystic Seller, and they worshipped them alongside the new god. Appearance altering was a form of worship to that group :]
2) They made the choice through alot of social stuff- they already resembled the Mystic Seller by coincidence in slight, and once they started to worship them, sheep who had traits that resembled theirs the most were considered the most beautiful! And then, of course, those resemblant traits passed down, until most sheep had them! Some didn't, of course, because diversity is a thing, but! Even though the worship of the Mystic Seller faded after a few centuries, when that young god ended up dying somehow, the effect had been made, and the Mystic Seller had kinda grown attached to the little guys, and so. Sheep are MS' favorite.
3) Narinder does have alternative motives for stealing spellbooks!!
Shamura, and especially Kallamar, are both... very afraid of his crown, and the power he holds. And thus, they tended to hide spellbooks and ritual books from him. They didn't know what his powers would entail, and they really didn't want to find out.
4) Kallamar knew that Shamura would be angry, because Narinder isn't allowed to preform rituals, and they figured Heket was too young to be able to!
If I were to continue the comic, (which I originally wanted to but didn't because there was already so much) it would've shown that when Shamura gets back to Kallamar scolding the youngest two in the field, Narinder spots them and him and Heket make a run for it. Kallamar runs after them and Shamura stays in the field, simply staring at the spellbook still open on the ground.
Up until that point, all of the remaining God's assumed that crowns could only preform rituals aligning with their domains- but Narinder wasn't allowed to preform rituals, so he was never told this. This would have been the inciting incident to discover that crowns can naturally preform rituals inside of their domains- but with instructions, any crown could do ANY ritual.
Well- almost any.
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aughtpunk · 7 months ago
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1) Wherever a fairy tale ends with "and then the hero picked the so-and-so to marry and then they were wed" because there's never a "so-and-so was totally cool with this turn of events". The Midwife has certainly helped a number of princesses run off to escape their heroes and boxed the ears of a few members of royalty who think slaying a dragon automatically makes you husband material.
2) The Bishops as a whole probably never celebrated Christmas for the most part. Growing up their parents would have forced the holiday cheer and festive activities with the same grim determination of a military dictatorship. The Bishops would have gotten the most expensive and hard-to-find toys (even if they didn't want them) while being forced to smile for yet another picture-perfect Christmas photo, no, you're not smiling enough, smile more, you don't look happy enough, you have to be happy, this photo needs to be perfect. As adults the Bishops simply ignored the holidays and did their best to pretend it wasn't even happening.
Then Buttercup was born
What followed could only be described as a Christmas explosion in The Bishop household. Every single adult was absolutely determined to make Buttercup (who was like six months old at the time and couldn't comprehend what was happening) have a great Christmas. Not a perfect one. But a great one, surrounded by those who loved her the most.
It was the best Christmas any of The Bishops ever had. Even if the Christmas Tree did fall on Kallamar.
3.1) Leshy and Lemmy's bedroom has a real "stoned college dorm room" look to it right down to the beanbag chair and weird skunk smell. Leshy still has his nest of blankets and pillows even though his siblings keep trying to get him and Lemmy an actual bed. This is also the only room with actual potted plants in it as it's the only way to keep Leshy's plant collection from taking over the entire estate.
Heket's room is barely used. She basically bought whatever IKEA had for decorations and put them up before only using her room for sleeping. She's simply too much of a social butterfly to stay on her room all of the time. However, there's been a sudden increase in silly tchotchkes and souvenirs from places she hasn't been. Perhaps they're gifts from that cafe owner she has a thing for...?
Kallamar's room may as well be a museum for his many trophies and diplomas and what-not. He doesn't actually use his bedroom often in the Bishop estate. Instead he has an apartment downtown near the laboratory he works at. As for what THAT looks like we'll be getting into that in the fic
Narinder doesn't have a bedroom. He has a couch. He sleeps on a couch.
Shamura and Clementine's room is less of a bedroom and more of a library that just happens to have a bed in it. There's a pile of pillows and comfy chairs for reading and a slight ant problem from the sheer amount of snacks eaten in the room. There's usually someone taking a nap in the pillow pile.
Buttercup's room is actually under construction at the moment because it's currently being transformed from a nursery into a Big Kid room. Buttercup will get to pick out the colors and decorations all by themself! AND Buttercup is getting a Big Kid Bed!
Vi hasn't hatched yet but has a very lovely fairy tale themed nursery waiting for them once they do.
3.2) I don't know where you live but where I grew up there was a chain of stores called East Meets West which was a store for stoners to buy hemp hoodies and where nerds could buy shirts with like wizards and dragons on them. That's entirely what Lemmy and Leshy wear.
Heket wears very practical clothes that usually end up covered in dirt or stains from her many numerous outdoor activities. Don't tell anyone, but I'm the back of her closest there's a full knight outfit from her ren faire days that she looks absolutely amazing in.
Kallamar is, of course, Kallamar. Every outfit he owns is designed and made by his own two hands. Even the shockingly plain clothes he wears while working was made by him. He too has a secret ren faire outfit. One day he'll get his sister to start going to them again.
Narinder's clothes were all bought at a thrift store and are currently shoved into a duffle bag next to the couch he's sleeping on.
Shamura and Clementine's outfits were entirely designed by people who make Dark Academia mood boards on Pinterest. They dress in a way that says yes, I'm a professor in a way that all other teachers don't actually dress like. That being said while they're at home they rock the pj's 24/7 lifestyle.
3.3) you don't want to know what any of these freaks search for.
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