#if anyone wants to add on with other charcaters feel free

[stellocchia]

So, I’ve been thinking: where do the characters of the smp actually fit in the morality spectrum?

We’re all always pointing out how everyone is “morally gray” in the smp, but it’s not too hard to see that the level is different in different characters, for example: Puffy’s light griefing when she first arrived on the smp is in no way comparable to Dream blowing up a country 3 times... so how about we take an objective look through this characters actions?

First let’s establish what are the categories we’ll be talking about:

Morally gray characters: they are the intermediate between a villain and a hero. They are neither wholly bad nor good. 

Anti-Hero: someone who may perform moral actions but always for selfish reasons. Basically morally gray but with bad intentions.

Anti-villain: someone whose desired ends are mostly good, but their means of getting there range from evil to undesirable. Basically they think they have good intentions, but they’re actually villains. 

Sympathetic villain: an immoral character who’s backstory/character arc makes them sympathetic to the viewers. We can’t agree with their actions, but we can understand how they got there.

This is more or less the spectrum we will be moving in, as it would actually be rather hard to define anyone in the smp as a classic black and white hero or villain (with 1 exception). Also I believe we all kind of understand what the definitions for those terms are.

In this I will be only going over the characters I know the most about as there are way too many people and, I’m afraid, it’s impossible for me to cover everyone properly as I would need to watch their povs. Anyone though feel free to add on to this! 

Also I won’t be going in any precise order because that would take more effort then I’m willing to put in, so here we go: 

Tommyinnit: He is a bit of a trouble-maker. He has been involved in the most conflicts out of everyone in the server (although he didn’t start the big majority of them). He has griefed, stolen and caused a whopping total of 3 canon deaths (1 to Jack Manifold and 2 to Dream). He has however sacrified himself multiple times for his friends (both literally and by giving up his possessions) and he apologized and tried to make amends for his worse actions. He is mischevious but he also often proved that he can be very selfless. No doubt he earns a morally gray stamp.

Willbur: He is a difficult one because of the big split between his character pre and post election. That said, while Willbur was rather power-hungry before the election he also was very caring for those under him (sometimes slipping into being downright demeaning towards Fundy). He upheald his principle of “words over violence” and mostly wanted to build a peaceful nation. After the election however (because of his declining mental health) he did turn to violence and manipulation and ended up blowing up his own country. So I’d say he went from a morally gray character to a very sympathetic villain

Ghostbur: This one is being considered separatedly from Willbur, as it has been said multiple times that they are separate entities. Ghostbur, you would think, has never done anything bad in his life, he has however hurt some people. He refused to have an actual talk with Fundy or with anyone really when it comes to what Alivebur did, hurting them as a consequence and while they are separate entities, they’re still very much connected. His intentions in general though are good, he just wants everyone to be happy, he just doesn’t realize his incapacity to fully understand other people’s struggles can hurt them at times. He has however never intentionally caused harm to anyone and tried to help whenever he did so unintentionally. He lacks the qualities that would make him a “hero” but he’s morally good 

Tubbo: While people in this fandom have a tendency to portray him as a poor innocent bean he’s not entirely squeacky clean himself. He steals regularly, he has partook in Techno’s scuffed execution attempt and organized a festival with the clear intention of killing Dream. He has however, more often then not, done what he thought was right and what he felt he needed to do in order to protect his people. Even now he’s built a safe heaven away from everyone because he wanted a safe place for anyone wh needed it. So there you go, morally gray stamp of approval.

Techno: And here I already know there will be some contentione... oh boy... anyway! Techno undoubtedly thinks he’s always doing the right thing. He thinks that destroying the governament was the only way to get rid of corruption. He thinks he’s doing something good. He has however released weapons of mass destruction (aka withers) in L’Manburg 3 time, caused the most canon deaths in the server (yep, more then Dream) and he’s been manipulative (wether intentionally or not doesn’t really matter here). In general he’s caused so much pain to so many people that it cannot go ignored. For this reasons he gets an anti-villain stamp

Phil: He’s also one of the characters deserving of a split, in his case it’s pre and post Techno’s attempted execution. Pre execution he was a mostly uninvolved member of L’Manburg, he did however help greatly with the rebuilding and tried to give a family to Fundy when he realised he needed one. He did also kill Willbur. ater the execution however he joined Techno in committing atrocities for what he percieved to be something good (”teaching how bad governament is” was his perceived goal). So I’d say he went from morally gray to joining Techno in the anti-villain gang

Quackity: He is a very complex character and I’m sure opinions about him are rather split. He joined the election to insure it’s fairness. He stayed by Shlatt’s side to try and make the governament fair until he realised that he would never be litened to and then he joined Pogtopia to take down a tyrant. He tried to protect L’Manburg in every way he could, but did get carried away with the attemted execution and the festival, even arriving to suggesting executing Ranboo. Now he wants to build capitalism and is trying to fight the Egg in his own way. He is the definition of a morally gray character

Ranboo: Another split opinion incoming here! Ranboo does mostly have good intentions (at least in his non-enderwalk state, which we won’t talk about here, because there still isn’t enough lore about it to understand it). He would like to have a united server with no conflicts. In trying to achieve this however, as he noticed himself, he actually went against every single one of the people he cares about: not sticking up for Tommy at the trial, assisting with Phil’s arrest and Techno’s execution, giving back Techno’s weapons and armour with no fight and, in general, giving him resources, helping to plan the Green Festival and so on so forth. That said all this things are “bad” from one side but “good” from the other. He has also kept company to Tommy in exile more then anyone else and he was there in the final fight against Dream. In conclusion he gets a morally gray stamp as well

Punz: Punz fights for money and his own self interest. He showed before that his alliance was with those who paid him, even though he actually seemed to care and consider Dream his friend until a certain point. He fought in a few wars but was never overly involved in the petty conflicts. He did however end up being the reason Dream was defeated (athough that was also for money). This was also before the Egg’s corruption as we won’t be considering that as part of the character since, you know, the Egg literally mind-controls people... anyway he gets to be in the anti-hero club

Sam: The warden of the prison is someone with a great work ethic (though he doesn’t seem to care much were the money are coming from once a project gets commissioned to him) and a very kind individual, always ready to offer pumpkin pie or his help to anyone who seems to need it. He’s also building a bank with the express purpouse of building an economy to take control over the server... he is morally gray as well is what I’m trying to say here

And, our final one:

Dream: This man also actually needs a split to better understand him, and that split is before and after he received the necromancy book from Shlatt. Before that he started a few conflicts (Declaring war on L’manburg and the whole railway skirmish thing) nut in general he had mostly sound objectives. Toward the start he didn’t want trouble in his server and he went to extreme leghts to ensure there wouldn’t be any (stealing Tommy’s disks, the whole declaring war etc). He did try and help Pogtopia at the start for this very same reson, because he was hoping that the two indipendent factions would cancel out each other. At one point however the objective in his actions seems to have shifted between wanting to obtain unity for the server to wanting to obtain control for himself. It’s after this shift happened that he committed his most heinous crimes (blowing up L’manburg other 2 times and all the manipulation that went on). After the shift there is not a single redeeming thing he did. He went from an almost anti-villain to a straight up villain, he is, in fact, the only one aside from the Egg that I’m willing to deine as a true villain.

[marvelmarch]

Marvel March Prompts in Text Format

Here are the full prompt lists for anyone who wants to take part in Marvel March but relies on a text reader app or has trouble displaying/reading images:

General Prompts:

1 favourite marvel charcter(s) 2 favourite comic series 3 favourite marvel movie 4 favourite comic panel 5 least favourite marvel character(s) 6 first marvel character you ever saw 7 favourite villain 8 favourite marvel building/location/planet 9 marvel character you identify most with 10 favourite marvel costume 11 favourite MCU interpretation of a character 12 favourite pet avenger/animal from a marvel series 13 least favourite villain 14 favourite team 15 a comic character you'd like to see in the MCU 16 a character you'd like to know more about 17 least favourite team 18 favourite movie scene 19 favourite duo 20 first comic you read 21 favourite marvel cartoon show 22 favourite mutant 23 favourite cosmic charcater 24 favourite avenger 25 favourite inhuman 26 favourite street level character 27 favourite joke character 28 favourite ship (friendship or romantic) 29 a character you'd like to see brought back 30 saddest death 31 a character you just want an excuse to draw!

Comics:

1 Favourite character 2 Favourite comic series 3 First comic you remember reading 4 Favourite team 5 Favourite mutant 6 Favourite comic panel 7 A title you'd like to see revived 8 Least favourite character 9 Favourite villain 10 Favourite pet avenger/marvel animal 11 Favourite location (building, planet, country etc) 12 Favourite Avenger 13 Saddest death 14 Least favourite villain 15 Comic character you identify with most 16 Favourite team (oops I accidentally duplicated this prompt - second favourite team then, I guess! Sorry!) 17 Favourite street level character 18 A character you'd like to see brought back 19 Favourite ship (friendship or romantic) 20 Favourite joke character 21 A character you'd like to get their own comic title 22 Favourite inhuman 23 Worst comic title you've read 24 Favourite comic costume 25 Weirdest comic you've ever read 26 Favourite cover 27 Worst comic costume 28 Favourite cosmic character 29 Favourite duo 30 A dead character you'd like to see revived 31 A character you just want an excuse to draw!

MCU:

1 Favourite movie character 2 First Marvel movie you watched 3 Favourite Marvel movie 4 Favourite Marvel TV show 5 Favourite movie team 6 Favourite movie villain 7 Favourite MCU costume 8 Funniest Marvel movie 9 Personal least favourite movie character 10 Favourite cgi character 11 Favourite ship (friendship or romantic) 12 Saddest movie/tv death 13 Favourite tv show villain 14 Worst movie character interpretation 

15 The last Marvel movie you watched

16 Worst Marvel movie 17 Favourite original character made for the MCU 18 Favourite movie scene 19 Favourite location (building/planet/country etc) 20 Favourite comic relief character 21 Character you'd like to see brought back 22 Favourite Netflix show 23 Funniest movie/tv scene 24 Favourite duo 25 Favourite movie series 26 Favourite titles/credits 27 Ateam up you'd like to see 28 A character who deserves their own tv show/movie 29 Worst movie or tv show villain 30 Favourite post credits scene 31 A character you just want an excuse to draw!

IMPORTANT NOTES:

- I made a mistake in comic prompts and put favourite team twice. I did check and recheck many times but that one slipped through the net, i’m sorry! Feel free to use one of them for your second favourite team or maybe villainous team!

- if I’ve made any other mistakes, I apologise whole heartedly! This should just all be in good fun though so just enjoy them :)

- feel free to interpret prompts in different ways to suit your own enjoyment of marvel. For example, in the MCU version feel free to stick to focusing on either movies or tv shows, and if you don’t watch any of the tie-in series ignore those questions and pick from another prompt set or add a question you’d personally like to answer instead. Like I said, it’s all in the name of fun

- Marvel March is an art challenge but can be interpreted in any way you choose, you can write your answers or use screenshots or gifs etc. It would just be awesome to see some other people joining in and enjoying the challenge

- tag your posts with marvel march so we can check out your responses to the prompts!

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[yellow-yarrow]

I read hang the fool back ages ago when it was published, I don't really remember recognizing anything racist or problematic but then again I don't remember half of what happened in it. I'm curious about what they were? As it's still super popular and I see it mentioned everywhere.

okay so the first thing is that i personally dont think its well written but that might be just my taste so i get it if other people say that it is, also the last time i read that fic was in december i think? so i might not remember all the details

my thoughts before i read what other people had to say about it were that it was weird how they were always compared to animals, the way Lu/cio talked and how H/anzo was being a giant asshole to Mc/ree all the time

second, there are people who wrote long posts about this but its hard to find since they usually dont tag it but i found this screenshot of a post like that

some things that i want to add is that i dont think making r/ey/es a villain is a bad thing since re/aper is is kinda already an villian-like charcater in ove/rwa/tch with his “evil laugh” emote and all, but if i remember correctly r/eyes was written like he was pure evil, with no sympathetic traits or reasoning why he was doing what he was doing, so thats kinda... eeehhhh

what people also disliked was how at some point han/zo and mc/ree went on a date and d/va suddenly became their stylist/beautician/whatever (this was kinda weird because... why) and apparently this is some kind of korean stereotype but i dont know much about that

the author since rewrote and deleted scenes from the fic so i guess thats good

im not trying to write like a callout-post and im not saying that the writer did all of these on purpose or anything but there are things in it that are kinda problematic, describing a dark skinned character as beast or a black man as a boy while these same exact words have bean used by racists thought history is not ok whether you know about this or not

i personally didnt like the characterization (exspecially h/anzo’s), and the way it was written (use of certain words for example)

i dont think its the worst fanfic but its not the best even thought most of the fandom acts like it is

if anyone knows about this more than i do feel free to comment but please in a civilized manner because i dont want to argue with anyone im open to new viewpoints