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Can't believe I almost missed the opportunity to make ridiculous valentines!
#national treasure#national treasure 2#national nonsense#ben gates#abigail chase#meat lady#riley poole#ian howe#peter sadusky#emily appleton#patrick gates
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Incorrect National Treasure (part V) (part I) (part II) (part III) (part IV)
#national treasure#ben gates#benjamin franklin gates#abigail chase#riley poole#peter sadusky#tis i#incorrect quotes#incorrect national treasure#incorrect national treasure quotes#national treasure book of secrets#national treasure 2#text posts#ian howe
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"I could fix him" "I could make him worse" nah fam I just wanna watch him cause chaos
#jareth the goblin king#ian howe#alec trevelyan#tbh I'm like this with most of my villainous blorbos#why conform when you can burn shit down instead?
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The real national treasure was blonde Sean Bean.
#july 4th#forth of july#national treasure#sean bean#ian howe#this is what our founding fathers fought and died for#i dont care that he's british#happy birthday america#4th of july#independence day
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This scene is so funny to me
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20 Years Ago, On November 19th, 2004 📜
Walt Disney Pictures Presents
1 Of The Greatest Disney Adventure Films Of All Times
The Greatest Treasure Hunt Of All Times
Begins
In America's History 🇺🇸
A Secret Treasure....
A Treasure Beyond All Imagination ....
An Invisible Treasure Map that shows the whereabouts of this Incredible Lost Treasure that has been fought over for centuries.
The Treasure Of The Knights Templar.
And all you have to do. Is Find It ?
Where is this Invisible Treasure Map you ask ?
ON THE BACK OF THE DECLARATION 📜 OF INDEPENDENCE !
A NATIONAL TREASURE 🇺🇲
WALT DISNEY PICTURES PRESENTS
A JON TURTELTAUB FILM 🎥
IN ORDER TO BREAK THE CODE , ONE MAN WILL HAVE TO BREAK ALL THE RULES.
NICHOLAS CAGE
IS
BENJAMIN FRANKLIN GATES
IN
NATIONAL TREASURE 📜
HAPPY 20TH ANNIVERSARY TO WALT DISNEY PICTURES
NATIONAL TREASURE 📜
#NationalTreasure #BenjaminFranklinGates
#RileyPoole #AbigailChase #PatrickHenryGates #JohnAdamsGates #ThomasGates #IanHowe #AgentPeterSadusky #TheTreaureOfTheKnightsTemplar #TheKnightsTemplar #Freemasons #DeclarationOfIndependence #WaltDisneyPictures
#National Treasure#Benjamin Franklin Gates#Riley Poole#Abigail Chase#Patrick Henry Gates#John Adams Gates#Thomas Gates#Ian Howe#Agent Peter Sadusky#The Treasure Of The Knights Templar#The Knights Templar#Freemasons#Declaration Of Independence#Walt Disney Pictures#Spotify
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#national treasure#ben gates#ian howe#riley poole#abigail chase#barbie movie#barbie selfie generator
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Ok so I’m watching National Treasure for about the thousandth time, and I…
I just…
Has the bad guy in this ALWAYS been this hot???
Is it just because I’ve now seen him as Boromir?
Like, I watched this movie a THOUSAND times and was able to be completely normal about this man, like he was in full-on “bad, very bad, evil man” category, and then suddenly
BAM
I watch it today and it’s like…
Wait a sec…
He’s HOT???
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What if Hendricks knew Ian Howe and that's why he didn't say anything when he was warned about the declaration of independence being stolen(he didn't want to bring attention to it)
At this point he was already going by Salazar, and Ian said that he has contacts from his past life working in the Black Market. I wouldn't be surprised if he was apart of Cras Est Nostrum.
#National Treasure Edge of History spoilers#edge of history spoilers#disney edge of history#Salazar Edge of History#special agent hendricks#agent hendricks#Cras Est Nostrum#ian howe#sean bean#salazar national treasure edge of history#salazar national treasure#national treasure edge of history#national treasure#edge of history theories#nteoh#nteoh spoilers
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Just watched National Treasure, definitely not for the treasure that's Sean Bean...
Sorry for the shitty quality of this picture
#What do you mean; He's in his sixties??#I don't care#imo he is still a treasure#and still a beautiful man#sean bean#but he looked the best in the 90s and 00s#anyways i have also started on#Sharpe#because of him and god does he look good in it#if you know me irl and you see this no you didn’t#national treasure#ian howe#my own post
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What do you think of “violence” as a lens for examining the movie? I see someone mentioned it in the notes of a recent post contrasting Ben and Ian’s approaches to getting fingerprints, and I remember observing to one of my friends that it struck me as an action movie where the heroes are being shot *at* but never shoot anyone, they outwit, hide, and flee. Even at the end, under Trinity Church when they outnumber Ian’s team, the heroes don’t attempt to rush the surviving henchman and get his gun, their response is still to *outwit* Ian again.
Hey @kaiyves-backup,
Great question!
I believe the commentary in question is by @tentacledwizard.
Parallel Action
I adore the heist sequence so much. It's conveying a lot of information about both teams visually while ratcheting up the tension the whole time. This technique of cutting back and forth between two sequences of related activities is called 'parallel action', and it is used to fantastic effect in this part of the movie.
I mean, pretty much every part of National Treasure is one of my favorite parts of National Treasure, but the heist sequence just sings, and this crosscutting is a big reason why.
Good vs Evil
The trope of the heroes winning through wits instead of violence is a longstanding one. You could probably trace it back to The Odyssey if you were so inclined? It plays on some base cultural assumptions we have about good = clever, intelligent, peaceful while bad = violent, brutish, dumb. Obviously the particulars of those associations change over time, but broadly they stand.
And National Treasure is very clear about situating each side with the "good vs evil" narrative. While Ben is prepping UV light powder, Ian and co are amassing grenades and blocks of C4.
Ian's crew tases a guard to gain fingerprint access, while Ben artfully steals Abigail's fingerprints with no harm done other than some awkward flirting and potentially weird implication for their relationship later but that's not what we're dealing with atm.
The film takes every opportunity to show us the difference between these two approaches, and I think there are a few reasons why, both in general and to serve this story in particular.
First of all, both teams are doing a "bad" thing. They are both trying to steal something that we, the American public consciousness, hold sacred. To differentiate them and make sure we know who is doing it for the right reasons and for the wrong reasons, the film gives them two very different approaches. It's clear at every step who to root for.
The parallel action is also creating dramatic irony. We know that Ian is coming, and that he's heavily armed, but Ben doesn't until it's nearly too late. That creates some delicious tension, because the editing keeps reminding us what Ben and Riley don't know: this sequence is actually a race not just against the clock, but against armed mercenaries Yikes!
It also sets up Ian as a formidable antagonist. He's just as capable as Ben, but much more dangerous. He's able to match Ben and Riley's heist literally beat for beat on screen, while causing much more harm to people and property. This underscores that he will not hesitate to harm Ben, the Declaration, or anyone else who crosses his path on the treasure hunt (as an unfortunate Dr. Chase is about to learn).
Clever Heroes
One thing I want to focus on especially is the way this movie actually subverts this trope a teeny bit. Usually, the trope is that the good guys are just as capable of violence as the bad guys, but choose not to use it. They elect to outwit because it's more 'gentlemanly.' Off the top of my head I'm thinking of:
The Princess Bride. Both sides feature skilled fighters and Wesley and Inigo can and have killed a man like slicing butter, but they elect to use their wits and civility whenever possible. By contrast, Prince Humperdink and the Six-Fingered Man will use any violent means necessary to get what they want.
White Collar. Slightly random, I know, but I'm watching this right now, and the show makes it clear from the outset that Neal Caffrey is an expert marksman and highly competent with guns but he chooses not to use them because he's a classier (and therefore more likable) kind of criminal.
James Bond?? Honestly I haven't see one of these in a while but I feel like 007 isn't just mowing people down all the time. He's playing them. Outsmarting them. Only getting his hands dirty when he has to. Because he's, again, smarter/suaver/more 'civilized' and likable than his antagonistic counterparts.
The key here is that these guys all have the same violence as their opponents as an option in their toolbelts and make a moral choice not to use it.
Ben doesn't have that option.
Weak heroes
He could not, on his best day, go toe-to-toe with Ian or any one of the henchmen, let alone a group of them together. His only choice is to outwit them.
Throughout the course of the movie Ben throws one (1) punch and it hurts enough that he has to stop and shake his hand out.
And he only gets that punch off in the first place because Powell isn't expecting it.
He's a researcher. Yes he's fit enough to run around and scuba dive but if he had any kind of hand to hand combat training it would have been ~20 years ago when he was in the ROTC program.
This puts him in a sub-category/related trope: the scrawny nerd who outwits the much more physically powerful enemy. Think Mulan using the weights to help her climb the pole or a pre-serum Steve Rogers pulling the pin out of the flag poll.
And Ben is the most athletic of the bunch by far. Abigail seems like a person who takes good care of herself, but probably in a lowfat-yogurt-and-pilates way not in a can-fuck-you-up-with-martial-arts kind of way. And Riley? ...Riley does not strike me as someone who is especially strong or fit. Screen time, junk food, late nights online. Patrick is in his 60s and eats pizza alone on Friday/Saturday nights.
So while they maybe could have overpowered Ian all together, it would be a big risk, and probably none of their first instincts. Team Treasure is entirely composed of neurodivergent nerds--one imagines they all learned pretty early in their childhoods that they couldn't overpower their bullies, but they could outsmart them.
And so when their lives are on the line, they turn to the self-preservation strategy that's gotten them this far: their wits.
Conclusion
Wow, I did not expect this answer to get so deep!
This turned into an interesting look at both the creative choices in the movie and the characters.
Thanks so much for your question! Feel free to send another any time.
#national treasure#the national treasure gazette#national treasure meta#film studies#ben gates#abigail chase#riley poole#ian howe#thanks also for buying me more time to finish the POTC post :)
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Incorrect National Treasure (part II) (part I) (part III) (part IV) (part V)
#national treasure#ben gates#benjamin franklin gates#abigail chase#riley poole#patrick gates#patrick henry gates#ian howe#tis i#incorrect quotes#incorrect national treasure#incorrect national treasure quotes#national treasure book of secrets#national treasure 2#text posts
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My weirdly specific ship is Ian Howe and Shaw from National Treasure
#I know the show never said they were gay but it also never said they werent sooo#straight is not the default#national treasure#benjamin gates#Ian Howe
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ian howe is totally gay
#movie things#national treasure#rewatch#characters#ian howe#like he and ben seem like bfs briefly in that first scene#and then he totally is dating shaw
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Mickey Milkovich is not dumb.
#He has different skillsets.#He thinks about the world differently.#gallavich#mickey milkovich#ian gallagher#if redirected#he could have used his brain for more socially acceptable things#like making money on the stock market#or running a business#he understands money and negotiation#he knows how to manipulate people#and he doesn't get hung up on challenges
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