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cto10121 · 11 months ago
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Twilight Clown Takes—Part 4
What is it about YouTube and its breeding ground for Twilight clownery???? Some of it is very basic clownery, too. Also, the fake outrage on behalf of the Quileutes by engaging in racist interpretations of the text is…something else. Regardless, there I came upon the feast, and so I shall eat.
“The Wolves Are Savage” and Other Racisms
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What.
You mean those same books that described the vampires in the same way as beasts, who not only growl and roar and snarl, but literally cannot smell blood without going literally crazy like sharks? The same books that described vampires as almost entirely solitary creatures who don’t usually form covens (because then they would turn against each other in competition for their human prey? The same books that had nothing but evil red-eyed vampires (James, Victoria, the Volturi) until the very last book of the series where we are introduced to sympathetic non-vegetarian vampires (Garrett, the Amazonians, etc.)?
Meanwhile the werewolves keep their reason and intelligence intact while they’re in their wolf forms and do not suffer from bloodlust. Their dangerousness comes from their youth and inexperience in shifting—the oldest of the pack is Sam at 18 and he was literally the first and only one to do it without help.
The books adore the Cullens. But it makes it damn clear that they (and the Denalis) are the exceptions that prove the rule. Otherwise Twilight vampires are sociopathic beasts and, as Edward explicitly said in book one, the Quileutes are right to keep their distance. And no, this wasn’t by accident or ~bad writing. Meyer is deliberate in her framing, as well as her characterization of the wolves.
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Tfw your accusation of racism is racist
Bella asked Jacob if he could stop being a werewolf because she mistakenly thought him and his wolf buddies were literally killing people. When she learned otherwise, she was literally, “Oh, no, Jake, I’m fine with you turning into a giant wolf. That doesn’t bother me at all.” (This is near VERBATIM, not even joking). Bella is a monsterfucker, after all. She’s just not into that kind of bestiality.
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Tfw your accusation of racism is racist
Yes, because imprinting is something the wolves 100% have control over and it’s something they can reject. There is nothing random about imprinting at all.
Otherwise—once again—the wolves have vastly more control over their wolf forms than the vampires over their thirst (the Cullens and Denalis excepted). And of course, their body counts are close to zero—compare them to the Cullens and Denalis. Only Sam has injured another human and that was by accident. Even the hothead Paul has no kills or injuries, whereas his counterpart Emmett has at least three.
MORMONISM OMG
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Because Mormonism is the only religion that values and reveres close family ties. Only Mormonism supports the patriarchal family and believes in the organization of society through the familial unit. Only Mormonism is heteronormative and actively homophobic. No other culture or religion gives a fuck.
(Also, the Prodigal Son??? Literally the most common and basic Biblical allusion ever. Literally every major writer has alluded to it, including Shakespeare. It is not just a Mormon thing, oh God 😭😭😭😭😭😭 This kind of clownery eats itself).
Bella Hate Dumb Round ♾️
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Bella turned down Mike and told him explicitly that it would hurt Jessica’s feelings if she went with him to the dance. She did go to La Push with him and her friends and was happy that it was “so easy” to please Mike. She rescued Angela from having to answer Jessica’s annoying questions about Eric by changing the subject. She helped Angela and Jessica find dresses and explicitly enjoyed their girls’ night out in Port Angeles. She had zero opinion on Lauren until she overheard her shit talking Bella (literally) behind her back. She listened to Jessica’s date with Mike and was glad it went all right.
Bella being mean to her friends is clownery so easily debunked—at worst, she is not particularly close to any of them except Angela. If she was reserved or distant with them, it was because she hates any and all attention to herself, period. It was her first day at a new school where everyone knew each other, and was already overwhelmed with introductions and learning her schedule and teachers’s and classmates’s names. The behavior Edward notices in Midnight Sun does not go against her character in Twilight at all and is a continuation of this self-abnegating tendency.
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Edward literally went to Italy to get himself killed by the vampire elite and explicitly said that he could not live in a world where Bella did not exist. Before that, he basically admitted that when he wasn’t hunting Victoria he curled up into a ball and let the despair take him. Meanwhile Bella did not consider suicide (though ~just barely) because of Charlie and Renée. After her one week coma period she did make an effort at keeping up appearances, which included getting all A’s even in her weakest subject, Calculus.
It’s disgusting, all right: A male character who cannot live without his woman. What kind of a message is that sending to our poor impressionable boys???!!!!!
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Didn’t Edward literally stop murdering child molesters and pedophiles because his conscience got to him that it was, indeed, still murder? And didn’t at least one clown still complain about how Mormon it was of him to care for human life? Now the clowns insist Edward doesn’t care about humans and humanity at all.
Even if Edward did care only about Carlisle’s disappointment, it wasn’t because he considers himself his perfect son. If anything Edward suffers from the same kind of self-esteem issues as Bella—in New Moon, he flatly denies Aro’s praise/assertion that his self-control puts Carlisle to shame. Edward thinks of Carlisle because he loves Carlisle like a father and thinks the world of him. He did save him from permanent death, after all.
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leospaganpage · 6 years ago
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Hi
‘I thought about writing an intro post for a couple of days and not known what to write. I could talk about the last month or so, or I could go back to the beginning. 
So here I am. It’s hot, my laptop is slow. It’s 11pm and I’m half watching ‘America’s Hate Preachers’, drinking wine, surrounded by dragon’s blood incense. I’ll go back to the start:
I was born in Bristol, UK, and baptised Lydia Joy Ginley. You can probably guess from the surname and the baptism that some of my ancestors were Irish Catholics. It was my great granddad. Thankfully, it was very watered down by the time it got to me. I did go to a Catholic primary school but it wasn’t all strict and run by Nuns (though there were a few angry Irish teachers). I’m sure at some point I truly believed in Catholicism, just as children believe in Father Christmas. But I didn’t by the time I was 11, I remember being obsessed with ghosts and the supernatural. 
So one side was catholic but my mother certainly isn’t. One of her friends is a medium. I was brought up with that being normal and there was no doubt in my mind that she wasn’t honest. She moved to South Africa but still keeps in contact, I’ll come back to her later. Mum joined circles, met her friends spirit guide (a native american which is apparently the stereotype). I remember a BBC children’s programme in 1997 called Aquila about two boys that find a roman spaceship. Everyone thought their next door neighbour was mad as she could see and talk to a native american who gave her advice. She was given pills and was convinced she was mad. I think it ended happily with her throwing out the pills and the two boys believing her. But I knew it was her spirit guide, I thought it was obvious.  
My Mum said that once in a meditation was taken to the ‘Hall of Learning’ (spiritualists believe this a place in the spirit world that contains great knowledge of the spirit world). My Mum asked her medium friend that, if that was the hall of learning, why didn’t she learn anything? She told my Mum that she had learned something, she learned that it existed. So that was suddenly a thing in my life. 
My secondary school was not religious at all and always failed the OFSTED thing for RE. I kept my love for the supernatural - everyone remember ‘Most Haunted’? I was obsessed! I didn’t really thing about religion or spirituality much, I was too busy immersing myself in maths, science, art and depression. I had a passion for biology. 
At some point my sister started working at a shop called Crystals. I though crystal healing and stuff was all bollocks. But then many people I did not expect said they didn’t like going in the hop as it made them feel funny, they had weird sensations, etc. Two of these people were devout Catholics and one was a blokey bloke gardener. That was enough to convince me that there is something to it.
At uni, I made friends with many goths.Some of these were pagan (or pretending to be to look cool). I found it really interesting, I read books. But to me, I found it interesting in a history nerd way.  I know what I mean. It was just something from history that we had long since disproved. But I did relate to nature being related to spirituality. Sometime around then, my mother discover a lot of old photos and paperwork. She discovered that her grandfather and his father were Druids. I found this really interesting. I wanted to be inspired by this, I researched. I liked it but just wasn’t grabbed. At uni I developed mental health issues. I tried some of the things I had read out of desperation but didn't really get it.   I met my partner at uni, they were vaguely interested in paganism too but was mostly agnostic/atheist. 
Then that last few years, we’ve not had much time to focus on spiritual things. Life has happened. My partner became disabled and we both came out as transgender. I’ve also still been struggling with my mental health. 
But life has started to go in the right direction. And in the last month or so, I feel like Loki has walked into my life. That’s for my next post. 
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sparklingrainbowdragon · 7 years ago
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whats it like living in an environment with many non-religious ppl?
Hey, thank you for my first ask, dear anon!First thing is, I know that my description says I’m Catholic, but I am not one of the old-school clichés you see in movies. I am no fundamentalist and I don’t do everything that the Bible says. I am bi (so no homophobia here) and some of my atheistic friends are the greatest persons I ever had the lick to meet. Of course, there are always these douches being like“Yo, Spark, check this out: scientists found scientific proof that God’s physical existence is impossible. You’re WRECKED!” The Disrespectful. Who in this case didn’t even really deal with what they are dissing. (“God’s physical existence”!? Give me a break.) I will later stress that I don’t mind atheists in general, I would never want to force people to share my beliefs. Of course people are free to think God is bullshit. But do they have to tell you all the time in order to feel good? If you don’t have even the slightest bit of respect for the being that is believed in, at least have some for the believers. Some atheists feel like they are better and more individual than e.g. me, the Catholic. As if I am only one sheep in a big group, just like all the other sheep. Of course that’s bollocks. Clichés are totally wrong here, I would even say that every Christian has their very own way of believing in God.But if non-religious people or persons from other religions are open for the thoughts and beliefs of others, it can lead to very interesting discussions. I always like getting to know new ideas and I basically had as many stimulating talks about religion and God with atheists as with Christians. So, being in an open and respecting non-religious environment can even be intellectually enriching sometimes.
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churchofsatannews · 8 years ago
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9 Questions, 9 Satanic Answers - Magister Carl Abrahamsson
Conducted & Translated by Der Rabe
Hello Carl. Thank you for taking the time to give an interview to Der Rabe.
As a starter, how would you explain Satanism to someone who comes again and again with the same old arguments like child molestation, animal sacrifice, and church burnings, to name but a few? It is after all difficult to make it clear to these bigoted humans and also to the media that this is bollocks.
I think the main thing to do is point to the web site of the Church of Satan, where everything is so clearly stated. And, in extension, to LaVey’s own writings. If the people in question are intelligent enough to do that, then maybe A) nothing needs to be explained by you, or B) an interesting conversation could arise.
How did you personally arrive at this philosophy?
In my teens I felt attracted to Nietzsche but also to a magical approach to life. Of course, Aleister Crowley pops up immediately with his Thelemic philosophy. And LaVey. So that’s what happened. I read a lot of books, and resonated with some of these writers and ideas. LaVey and his Satanism was one of these things I found invaluable, giving credence to both psychological and magical facets of the human mind, and connected to a Nietzschean philosophy.
We know each other for quite some time now and I do know that you personally got to meet Anton Szandor LaVey. How did you meet him and what person was he?
I was fascinated by LaVey and his Church and had read all of his writings. At the same time I was also obsessed with American pop culture, including movie stars like Jayne Mansfield. Given that she knew LaVey, I was inspired to write a song called Sweet Jayne, which I recorded with my band at the time: White Stains. I sent him the record and he wrote a really nice letter back, and making me a member at the same time. Then I went over to San Francisco to see him several times. He was an amazingly intelligent and humorous man who led a very interesting life. He was also supportive of what I was doing in terms of my own writing and publishing, and that initial inspiration has never really faded away for me.
You are not only a musician and a filmmaker but you also write and publish books. Your new book “California Infernal“ was published recently. A wonderful collection of photographs of LaVey and Jayne Mansfield. How did you get to make this project and what does it mean to you?
It was like a ”full circle” experience. My original inspiration (meaning LaVey’s relationship with Jayne Mansfield) and that record led to my meeting LaVey. This was in 1987/88. In 2013 or thereabouts a Swedish collector, Alf Wahlgren, showed me his collection of photographer Walter Fischer’s prints and negatives. And they were all of LaVey and Jayne, and also the early days of the Church. I was thrown back into the original inspiration and it was really fun. We decided to make a book, and that became California Infernal. That gave me a chance to tell that old story again, and also to have LaVey’s old friend Kenneth Anger write a short memento-text. It really became an amazing book!
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California Infernal available from trapart.net
As you know, Der Rabe is a German speaking outpost for the Church of Satan. What is your opinion in general on the understanding of Satanism in German speaking countries? Do you see any differences when one considers that the founder of modern day Satanism and the Church of Satan, Anton Szandor LaVey, lived in America?
Hard to answer. The philosophy of indulgence and life enhancement with inclusions of ritual is of course universally applicable. LaVey wove in sources from many parts of the world to create an ultra-pragmatic and applicable method. And of course the information should be available in different languages and cultures. So Der Rabe is an inevitable manifestation of that need.
Do you think that Satanism and the understanding for its philosophy have changed after LaVey’s death, considering that one has to keep up with the times?
Movements or groups always encounter many difficulties after a strong leader has passed. But I’m happy to say that the Church of Satan seems stronger than ever before. The publishing of new canonical books (Gilmore, Johnson et al) is a sign of health and a movement forward. I think that general understanding and tolerance of the Church has increased greatly. It’s all in the presentation, isn’t it?
Is occultism and Satanism similar to surrealism and realism? Or how do you connect to the occult part of the philosophy, if such a thing does exist after all?
Although the Church has declared a secular and atheist stance, there is still an open-minded attitude towards occult technologies and methods. It all lies with the individual; to what degree he or she wants to include occult methods or mind-frames. The hocus pocus is not at all necessary. On a personal level, I integrate ritual and have a belief in “supra-causal” methods for affecting changes in life. But that’s me.
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I would like to address an actual subject. The cruelty we encounter today with war and terrorism in God’s name is hardly imaginable. I want to mention that this drama repeats itself in history again and again and what is considered normal in some Muslim circles is not different from how Christians acted during the crusades. What do you think how this is going to develop and how Europe will look like in the future?
It certainly seems like an increased polarity is happening, in the US and Europe. I find this very unfortunate because it simplifies the game considerably and thereby decreases the potential for creative pragmatism and a genuine appreciation of individualism and liberty – two seminal Satanic qualities. Action now merely triggers reaction, and when people and cultures are afraid, this process goes spiral. I’m a strong believer in cultural heterogeneity, and the monotheistic mind-frame always brings a weak “monoculture” (Christian, Muslim, Jewish etc). Unenlightened monotheism is to blame for basically everything that’s going wrong today, and it even endangers the planet as such. If I were in charge, I’d make sure that people keep their religion at home. It should be banned in public places and dialogues. If people in public offices are publicly devout within any form of monotheism, they should be fired. It’s especially sad that Christianity, which is the weakest form of these three evils, is allowed to permeate political life, like it apparently is in the US. Applying a Christian matrix on anything is a guaranteed path to rapid failure.
Finally, what are your plans for the future? Do you have any new projects we can be looking forward to?
I’m doing my best at trying to enjoy life to the maximum, and I’m pretty good at that now. So I write, make music and films, and also publish books that interest and inspire me (and hopefully others), like The Fenris Wolf series. So the future basically means more of that: life enhancement via culture. It’s great now and also will be in the future!
Thank you for your time and all the best for the future!
Thank you! And the same to you and Der Rabe. 
www.carlabrahamsson.com
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