#i’d also really love if someone wants to come talk to me about twd or just daryl in general

[dixonsbrat]

would anyone be interested in like a kinda slowburn mini-series for daryl??? with like lots of just them bickering and perhaps something v traumatic happening??? i’ve had this idea in my head nonstop

[darlingshane]

I’d love to hear your thoughts on why Shane is the best character in TWD 😊

Cause he's my baby and he's hot and I love him and that's good enough of a reason 😂 

But if you want something more logical, perhaps for a lot of reasons people tend to overlook… First, something that always bugs me is how little acknowledge there is of him actually stepping into the role of a leader for months before Rick showed up. As far as I know, no one in that group stepped in like he did. For the few interactions we saw, everyone would come to him for answers, and while he wasn’t always very diplomatic, he had good survival instincts and kept the group safe for months. Perhaps staying at the quarry wouldn’t have worked in the long run, but it was a plan nonetheless. 

He was right most of the time. He figured out pretty quickly how things were after the infection, and adapted a new mindset. He had to make tough decisions nobody was ready for yet, and maybe he pushed too hard instead of giving people time to get into that same headspace. And we see in later seasons that almost everyone thinks in a similar way Shane did, they just have different approaches. 

and it keeps going under the cut...

I recently saw a timeline in a subreddit or somewhere else that said the events from season 1 and 2 happened in the span of 2 or 3 weeks and that's crazy to me. So they were seemingly doing good, and they found Rick, everyone automatically herd to him, and everything until that point didn’t really matter anymore. That really pisses me off that he was just killed a few weeks later because they couldn’t sit down and talk things over. All and that, and despite him being driven for his misplaced love for Lori, he was still loyal to Rick in his own way. Did he question Rick’s leadership? Yes, countless times. Did he also follow his lead every single time? Also yes.

Which leads me to my next point. He also kept Rick safe. In the hospital flashback, he went in and saw what was happening and amidst all the chaos he still tried to get him out. When he couldn't, he did the only thing he could, he locked the door and barricade it. Did he know that would keep him safe? Probably no. He had absolutely no idea, but he was driven by getting them all out, and when he couldn’t get him out, he did the best he could to get Lori and Carl out of town. If he hadn't lied about Rick, Lori wouldn’t have agreed to leave him behind. Again, tough situations led to hard decisions.

And one of the hardest decisions he made was killing Otis to save Carl. He didn’t murder him in cold blood, he was with him until the end, killing him wasn’t something that crossed his mind until the very last second when he had no choice. If he hadn’t, Carl wouldn’t have gotten the care he needed. BUT people tend to paint him as a murderer for shooting him in the leg. It wasn’t right, but it was the only way out at that moment. I recently revisited one of my fics and wrote that Shane sacrificed his soul to saved Carl that day and I still agree with that. I don’t think he purposely hurt someone before unless he was defending himself. And from that moment on, you could see it changed him and didn’t know how to deal with that, which led him to his own demise.

Was he an asshole sometimes? Yes. Did he do or say things in a way I didn’t agree with? Yes. Did I ever want to slap him? Many times. But there was something about him, compared to other antagonists later on the show, that made him more realistic to me. He wasn’t driven by wanting to be right all the time or even being the leader. His misguided love for Carl and Lori, was at its core the things that he cared the most about and that he wanted to protect at all costs. And while I cared for neither, I think it was beautiful of him. 

I can never watch his last moments. For me, he got the right idea at the beginning of season 2 when started considering leaving the group on his own. I wish he had done that, even if that meant leaving the show. 

I’m probably forgetting something here cause I haven’t rewatched in years, but I think that’s it. Like I’ve said, I didn’t pay much attention to him the first time around, I did agree with him most of the time, it was his manners that left a lot to be desired. It wasn’t until my love for Frank got me to go back and watch some of his previous performances that I got to see Shane in a new light. 

In conclusion, he’s still the best character to me, and everyone should love him like I do. Or not. More Shane for me if you don’t. 

[tonyspank]

Wait so how long has it been since the apocalypse started in Reckless? I’m a huge TWD fan so I know that Rick and them got to Alexandria about a year and a half after the outbreak, has it been that long for this universe to or?

But then again I’m under the assumption that it hasn’t been as long as that though because of how easily she’d integrated into the community, Rick and them were on fight or flight mode for an extremely long time and I know that was one of the problems they had when they first arrived to Alexandria.

Plus she trusted all of them rather quickly, and I think people are more dangerous than walkers during an apocalypse.

I figured Iris would be making a return at some point but I didn’t think she’d be in the community already that’s crazy. The way I pictured it going was maybe the reader ends up building a bond with Tara and then sometime later on they find Iris during a run or something! Especially because they were in a serious relationship before the outbreak.

I know you can’t technically answer this but does that mean maybe Iris is already involved with someone there at the community? I know the reader is attracted to Tara but I don’t think she’d pick her over Iris if that wasn’t the case.

I have a deep love for apocalyptic and dystopian shows/movies so sorry if I talk/ask about a lot (But here I continue anyways lol)

Off of context clues I’m guessing the reader has been in another group before, maybe a bad group? Because she seemed more wary rather than devastated about the idea of joining another group. If I said groups are trouble, I would personally think it’s because I’d been in one before that didn’t survive and the prospect of being the last one alive is too much trouble or if I’d been with a group that crossed moral boundaries.

Is the reader estranged from her family? I think the first people who’d come to mind are my siblings and my parents if an outbreak was starting, also she was being driven to the airport by an Uber.

Did they conduct an interview of the reader before she’d been accepted into the community? She’s already being given a job and I don’t remember it being mentioned that they know much about her, I’m assuming whatever her job ends up being is related to what she was going to college for or maybe going out on runs to collect things for the community.

Sam and Tara saved reader’s life so I’m guessing they’re recruiters and they’d been watching the reader for awhile, because they didn’t really talk to her once they helped her or anything just straight up took her home like a stray dog lmao. I’m having a hard time picturing the reader as a recruiter because of how little the community knows of her, it’s only been a day and I think it’s too soon to think reader’s a good judge of character for recruiting but she’s been out on the road alone by the time they find her and that prompts the fact that she’s able to handle being out there more than the people inside the walls, so making her go on runs to help find things makes more sense to me.

I'd say it's been the same amount of time. Maybe just hitting about a year?

I feel like reader is a bit too trusting, but she understands and she still on her toes a bit. Also, she's kinda like "If they wanted to kill me, they could've done it." Which is true because Sam was in a tree with a sniper and reader didn't even know

Our girl Iris has been at the community this entire time! You'll how everything unfolds, don't worry!

I will not be pulling a Tom Holland so sorry if I skip over some of your questions, LOL

Reader will go in depth about her background soon, is all I will say.

Gale interviewed her, but it summed everything up in like one sentence, so it kinda seems like she didn't, lol

Sam is a full time recruiter, Tara is semi-part time. But, yes, they have been watching reader, I'm surprised she didn't even noticed lmao

[ultimatebethylficlist]

Veteran Author of The Month: September 2021

The featured veteran author for September is a well-known and beloved name in the fandom, @rckyfrk !

Rckyfrk can be found on AO3 and FFN under the same penname.

When asked what got her into Bethyl and what the fandom means to her, she said:

I did not start watching TWD until late into Season 3. I don’t do well with horror. My husband would watch and I would just read a book in our bedroom or something. Well, one fateful night, I needed to get some work done on my laptop and didn’t feel like sitting in bed to get it finished, so I just stayed in the living room (our house was teeny tiny - there weren’t a lot of other places to go), and I turned so I wasn’t looking at the TV, plugged in my headphones, and got to work. Well, I glanced over and there was the wonder that is Daryl Dixon gracing my screen. I was instantly intrigued. (I believe my exact words were, “Who is that? What is he...DON’T DO THAT THERE’S ZOMBIES THERE!” and I was instantly hooked. Dammit. I found that as long as I could watch some of the behind the scenes stuff on how they make the walkers, it took some of the horror out of it and I could just focus on the artistry of all the makeup and stuff. Season 4 premiere, we had some friends come over for a “watching party,” (remember those?) and I was actually up getting refills for everyone (being the good hostess that I am) so I completely missed the hug in Beth’s cell and when I came back into the room, NO ONE THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO TELL ME ABOUT. (I thought they were my friends…) So I really didn’t start *shipping* Bethyl until “Alone.” I mean, I saw how close they were getting during “Still,” but I guess I didn’t realize what I was really seeing, you know? (Keep in mind, I was still a relatively new fan and had missed most of Season 3 and THE HUG.) Anyway, I couldn’t stand waiting for the next week to find out what happened to Beth, and thus began the ONLY time I have EVER looked for spoilers. That’s how I happened upon this crazy thing called “fan fiction,” (I honestly had never known such a thing existed before that fateful search.) I got to know some of the Bethyl writers, and someone suggested joining tumblr and writing my own stories, and the rest is history. Bethyl is the only pairing I’ve actually, actively shipped, before or after. The only two characters I’ve invested time in. The only two I’ve cried over (just ask @jbird9...hubs has seen me go through all kinds of emotions over these two). My boys can identify Beth and Daryl (they’ve NEVER seen an episode, not even a commercial for TWD, but recognize them from pics I’ve shown them.) The Bethyl fandom has brought me to meet some wonderful people, who probably know me better than members of my actual family. This fandom has been such a bright spot in my life, and has been so supportive even when the well has been dry for years (at least as far as new content from the show). I love you guys.

For her personal fic rec list, she recommends:

(Ugh. I’m really hesitant to come up with personal lists because I’ve read SO MANY WONDERFUL STORIES and I don’t want to leave any of them out, but I also know my brain and I’m not always the best at recalling names and places when I need to. I do want to give some love to:)

@gneebee [AO3] Love’s Highway and One Cold Night live in my head rent free

@piper1016 (basically anything she’s written) [AO3]

@inkinmytea (Audriss) [AO3] especially By Any Other Name

These ladies have been super supportive of my writing, and I can’t thank them enough.

I also really miss Pussyfoot by SaraiVe

is this how you say hello (in the zombie apocalypse) by the queen conquers (dastardly_dame)

Also, @leftmywingshome [AO3]

and @majicmarker​ [AO3] who not only write amazing Bethyl stories, but have their own original work published, all of which I strongly recommend reading.

There’s about a gazillion other stories that I’d like to recommend, but we’d be here all day if I listed them all. PLEASE don’t feel left out or disheartened if I didn’t pull your name from the deep recesses of my brain. I swear I’m not doing it on purpose. There are so many gifted writers in this fandom - we are SO lucky! - and I truly do appreciate @ultimatebethylficlist​ for recognizing the veterans and newbies equally.

Rckyfrk’s Works & Personal Thoughts:

Lady in Red and Man in Black Summary: It's finally the big day, Maggie and Glenn's wedding day. Beth is maid of honor, Daryl is the best man. - This started as a one-shot/prompt for Bethyl Week on Tumblr, but has evolved into becoming a full-sized story. Thoughts: I miss these babies. I had to take a break to try and get Terms and Conditions going because they are so drastically different from it, but now it’s been so long I almost have to get T & C out of my system before I can get my head back in the syrupy sweetness. Lady in Red started as a prompt (technically two) WAY back in the day. We’re talking back in the summer of 2014. The first two chapters received such a supportive response that it took on a life of its own, but it was solely from Beth’s POV, and I had Daryl in my head basically screaming to be heard, so Man in Black made its way in. The goal is to get MiB caught up with LiR, then write them simultaneously (mainly so no one knows what will be coming next and the reader gets to decide which “side” to read first).

Terms and Conditions Summary: It was Beth's first time in Atlanta by herself when the world decided to end. When she lost her way home, she winds up meeting a crossbow-toting man with steel blue eyes and a smile that gives her chills. This is not your typical Bethyl story - imagine if Daryl were more like Merle. Thoughts: I think this is the darkest thing I’ve written (and really, it’s not even that dark). I had this idea in my head for Daryl to be a lot more like Merle and all these little scenarios kept popping into my head of Beth “taming the beast,” and having them slowly fall in love despite how they met and him being a total jerk - at least in the beginning. I think there’s only going to be a couple more chapters of this one, I just need to buckle down and write them. Maybe that’s why I’m dragging my feet to do it. 

And once upon a time, I was writing a non-Bethyl story called “Summer of Learning,” which is actually kind of misleading. Back to that summer of 2014, where I was going through some fandom drama and was about to give up writing and tumblr all together when this group of Norman fans (we called ourselves his Harem...I miss you @basswipe and @unicorns-and-myblacksoul) came along and included me into their shenanigans. Anyway, they gave me the prompt “Imagine Sean Patrick Flanery is your dad’s best friend and teaches you everything there is to know about sex.” In the story, the main character’s parents are Norman and Emily, so it’s...Bethyl adjacent?

[twdmusicboxmystery]

99% Sure Leah is a Hallucination

Okay, I REALLY wasn’t going to post anything else. I know the two template posts I gave you yesterday were a lot to chew through. But something happened last night that made this come together for me and my buddies, and I just couldn’t sit on it. I promise I’ll keep this brief, though.

After watching the episode yet again last night, @frangipanilove found an article in which Norman says something interesting about this episode. Well, maybe interesting isn’t the right word. More like BOMBSHELL.

Remember how we at first thought she might be a hallucination? Well, we moved away from it because we learned that Carol knew about her. That, and I thought it was safer for us all to make our peace with the idea of Daryl having a relationship with this woman. Just accept it and move forward, you know?

But after watching the episode, yes, Carol knew about her, but only what Daryl seemingly told her. She never met Leah. Not a single soul in the world other than Daryl ever saw her. Hmm.

So, here’s the article @frangipanilove found:

I honestly wouldn’t have gone back to the hallucination theory, if not for reading this. But now Norman is saying that nothing in this episode is what it seems. And he’s specifically referencing Daryl’s relationship with Leah.

(P.S. I have to laugh that fans are asking him what’s wrong with him. Um...he’s not Daryl? He’s Norman. And he doesn’t write the show. The writers do. Lol. But also notice that he talks about staying true to Daryl, and we all know that this Leah thing is the opposite of that. Unless....)

So, let’s look at some weirdnesses in the episode. And @wdway deserves most of the credit for this. Once we started discussing the article and brainstorming, she came up with most of this.

1.  When he meets Leah. My fellow theorists and I were actually talking about this before the episode aired yesterday. Why does he just run into her cabin? He follows Dog, but the funny thing is, Dog doesn’t run into the cabin. Only Daryl does. How does he know there’s not 47 walkers in there? How does he know there aren’t a dozen armed people? You’d think he would stop and observe and evaluate. But he doesn’t. He just charges in. And that’s very unlike Daryl.

And of course we could come up with some sort of explanation. Like maybe he heard Leah yelling while fighting the walker in the back bedroom and thought she needed help. Maybe, but the show doesn’t actually suggest this. There aren’t any subtitles or anything that give us any clue as to what his thought process was for just charging in.

2.  When he brings Dog back to her, when his eye scar has appeared, if you listen to the dialogue between him and Leah, it’s a little bit odd. Maybe not quite as odd as him charging into her house at first, but still it leaves some questions. About the eye scar, she says, “looks like you got the raw end of the deal.” He just says, “yeah.” Well, that scar isn’t jagged or shaky at all. It’s very straight. Clearly made by a knife, not a walker. So, it’s a little strange that she doesn’t ask what happened. If she wants to be left alone, wouldn’t she be concerned that there might be someone else out there. Why doesn’t she just ask about it? Why doesn’t he just tell her about it? In a way, it almost sounds as if Leah knows more than she’s saying in this scene.

3. When she opens up to him about her family and her past, all the stories she tells are almost like amalgamations of Daryl and the characters on TWD. Obviously everyone noticed the similarities to Carol. That’s a big one. But the story of the blood and the running could be them running from the prison, or the deaths of a lot of different people Daryl has had to say goodbye to. When she talks about meeting and fighting with her squad and how they gave her hope? TF in a nutshell. And even that she hints at having an abusive family. Daryl. Carol, too. But mostly Daryl.

4. It’s still odd that no one else ever met Leah. Yeah, she said she wanted to live out there alone. And we talked about how this makes it an unhealthy relationship, because if she really loved him, she would want to go meet his friends and family and know about every part of his life. Into this, I’m going to lump the fact that she never seems to have gone with him to search for Rick. Once again, if you love someone, you participate in their lives. And she’s just alone at the cabin anyway. Why not go with him?

5. Outside the show Weirdness: Look at that top pic I used for when he met Leah. Remember when we discussed that there is someone kneeling behind her? I assumed it was her son, because spoilers didn’t reveal when or how he would die. But that’s not the case. This person looks to be a teenager or an adult (much older than Matthew was) and we never learn who it is. 

People have said it might be a set person or a mic guy who accidentally made it into the shot, but I don’t buy that. They scrutinize these pictures and could easily have fixed that with the computer if they’d wanted to. I don’t know if we’ll ever find who it is. It might just be a hint that there’s more going on here than meets the eye.

But then I found this pic:

There’s someone lying dead on the ground behind them, and we didn’t see this in the episode. @wdway thinks it’s just Leah. That she was dead when he arrived, but he made up this story about how she was this strong, survivor woman and could have become his companion. I think that’s a super-viable theory, but of course we won’t know the details until they actually show us.

There are more weirdnesses than this, but I’m sure you get the idea. The more we think about it, the more sure we are that she’s a hallucination. And obviously that would make more sense anyway from the “why would the writers handle Daryl’s love life this way and piss off the entire fandom” perspective.

One thing we also noticed was that on TTD, the writer emphasized that this story is told from Daryl’s perspective. We’re seeing his PERCEPTION of it, and that’s important. I heard her say that, and wasn’t quite sure of what to make of it. Before realizing the hallucination thing, I thought she might be hinting that there was more we hadn’t see, or Leah might not be who he thought she was. Something like that. But if she’s not real, that makes way more sense, doesn’t it.

So, some things to consider. The strong parallels to Carol. The exact ones, actually, like spear fishing and all the identical dialogue. That’s because he’s taking those things from his time with Carol and incorporating them directly into Leah’s story.

Everything I said yesterday still applies. Mostly because that’s the symbolic template and here, we’re talking about the reality of what’s happening, so the two don’t affect each other directly. But while Leah’s personality is based on Carol’s (probably because that’s who he spends the most time with these days) the romance element is definitely molded out of his time with Beth.

Real:

Hallucination:

The cross that represents the grave? The one Chris Hardwick said would make some people think Leah is dead? Yeah, we think that really is her grave. We do think she probably really existed, and he met her, but she died relatively quickly, and the rest of the relationship didn’t happen. It’s all in his head. I’ll give you some more possibilities on that in a minute.

We think she’s the one who gave him the eye scar. If we’re right about that, I’m sure they’ll show it to us eventually. I mean, if she’s a hallucination, they’ll have to tell us that eventually, but probably not until S11. Think about the dialogue. “Looks like you got the raw end of the deal.” Daryl: “Yeah.”

This is also why the ending makes little sense. His argument with her about where he belongs is really him arguing with himself. That’s why he cries when she asks where he belongs, and he says he doesn’t know. But then later, we see him charging off to look for Rick, and not seeming at all sad or conflicted about anything. It’s because there is Leah. There never was. He’s just looking for Rick.

@frangipanilove also said something insightful about Carol. I think I took most of my mentions of the Carol flashback scenes out of my meta yesterday. Only because it was already so long and I wanted to focus on laying out the symbolic template for you. But while watching the episode, I actually felt kinda bad for Carol. Every time she came to see him, she seemed so upset. Like she felt as abandoned by him as he does by her. And I’m not saying she doesn’t deserve a taste of her own medicine, but I guess that sadness from her kind of surprised me.

But what @frangipanilove said is that maybe her worry for him really was warranted. Because he’d been out there on his own so long, it started to mess with his head and he really was losing his sanity. Carol might have been starting to see that, and she really was terrified for his mental health, which is why she kept trying to get him to come back.

And you know, it creates an interesting sort of irony for Daryl and Carol’s fight at the end in present day. He says that when things get tough, she runs, and he’s sick of dragging her back. And that’s true. We’ve seen that he’s right and Carol does do this, so I was 100% behind what he said to her. Was it harsh? Sure. But it still needed to be said.

But the irony is that during these 6 years after Rick, Daryl was doing exactly the same thing. Him staying out there to look for Rick, when after years, it would have become clear that he wouldn’t find the body, was him running away from the pain of what happened. Carol kept trying to drag him back, but he wouldn’t go with her.

Also, the two of them on opposite sides of the river here could represent the divide between reality and Daryl’s hallucinations.

The note. It’s a little hard to know exactly how to interpret the note from a PTSD perspective. Symbolically, I’d say the note he left was for Beth. Maybe he doesn’t even realize that in the episode, but with all the Beth parallels, it’s just about him wanting to belong somewhere. He wants to belong with someone who loves and needs him.

But I talked yesterday about how the cabin was trashed, and the picture was gone, right? By the time he wrote that note, Leah was long gone. Dead, I mean. The fact that the picture wasn’t there is especially significant. Why would the picture have disappeared, unless it wasn’t real to begin with.

Another thing I noted was Carol’s somewhat bizarre reaction when Daryl suggested they go down toward the river to hunt. She looked worried about that, but agreed. At the time, I was thinking she was worried because he’d spent so much time down there before looking for Rick, and she didn’t want the obsession to resurface. And that’s probably still true, but it’s even more interesting now, isn’t it? And maybe that’s why she’s always wanting to go out with him when he goes hunting or looking for supplies or whatever. She just doesn’t want him falling back into that mindset and disappearing again.

And it will make what I said yesterday about what will happen in the spinoff—her wanting him to stop looking for Rick and come with her—make more sense, too, won’t it?

Okay, I’ll stop now. I really haven’t covered everything we could possibly talk about with this. I’m sure you’ll all think of tons more. But you get the idea. And remember, this isn’t just my theory or our theory. I wouldn’t have come back to this at all if I hadn’t read that article where Norman hinted at it. And he would know, right?

And hey, if this turns out to be incorrect, I’ll be okay with that. I’ll eat my words (not literally 😉). But Norman is referring to SOMETHING here, and given how few characters were in this episode, and that he was directly talking about Leah in that quote, there really aren’t many things he could actually mean.

Special thanks to both @frangipanilove​ and @wdway​. Honestly, they did way more work on this one than I did.

Thoughts?

[majicmarker]

something that got brought up awhile ago (and i DON’T agree with the anons you got, it just made me think) - how DO you write fics for fandoms you’re not in? not that you shouldn’t, but you’re reeeeeeeally good at it and i’m like ???? i don’t know how it’s manageable when you don’t know the source material? please explain the witchcraft

ajdjdkdkdj well first off, thank you very much, lovely! unfortunately there’s no actual witchcraft involved (a shame, bc the craft is such fun), and my explanation might be quite boring, but it’s just not something that gives me any trouble. i don’t overthink it, and it comes pretty naturally.

i started writing bethyl bc @kitten1618x asked me to (woman’s got an eye for things i’d be good at writing) and i wanted to try smthn new, anyway, but i continue to have Zero interest in twd. i did watch “still” and “alone” to get a grasp of their dynamic, and from there it was smooth sailing. additionally, i felt a real kinship w daryl’s character, which then opened me up to new avenues to explore/write romantic male leads.

as for darklina, we all know that’s @redbelles’s fault; the way she talked abt it piqued my interest, and it’s been a godsend when i need a break from book edits. i’ve never read the s&b books and am only vaguely tempted to try out the show (and that’s entirely thanks to that buckled thing bb wears but anyway). i’ve also never been much for the enemies-to-lovers vibe, but it turns out i like anything so long as i’m in charge of it. again, it’s given me a new perspective on how to write different kinds of romance.

and that’s really what it comes down to — i don’t need the source material bc i’m literally just here for the romantic potential, and every ship can be stripped down to character archetypes and relationship dynamics. that’s what i work with. as someone who’s breaking into the business of writing romance novels for a living, playing around in sandboxes that aren’t mine has been excellent practice. i’ve learned a lot about what i can do, and it’s given me tons of material for original works.

(for fic specifically, ofc i’ve made some wonderful friends who do frequent those fandoms — the aforementioned melissa and meg, and @mygutsforgarters — so i know i have a sounding board for when i want to make sure i’m capturing bethyl, darklina, etc. the right way, as well as understanding/fleshing out details of those worlds.)

[yossariandawn]

Of course 002 Sethkate!! (if no one has beaten me to it yet :P) Also 002 Kastle!! & 004 Firefly/TWD!!

Thank you for all the asks, @alwaysupatnight! 💖💖💖 I will get to your last two tomorrow. 

SethKate Ship:

when of if I started shipping it: This is a hard one, because I fell more in love with them as the show went on, but the first time it went beyond “this would be great to see explored, but I doubt the show is going to ACTUALLY go there” to “OH THIS IS A REAL THING, ISN’T IT?” was probably Season 3. Seth was fundamentally changed by her death, and then watching him struggle with the hope he could get her back?! I WAS ALL IN AT THE POINT. The table scene aka “Fuller Family’s Least Favorite Drinking Game” (credit to @fortysevenswrites​ for the name) was probably the first time I went, OH THIS IS NEAT, YES PLEASE though.

my thoughts: see my whole blog

What makes me happy about them: EVERYTHING. The messiness, the comfort they are uniquely able to give each other, the way they actually SEE each other (looking past the surface, they both hide and use behind the snap judgements other people make about who they are) the values they share, the way they challenge those values in each other and how that makes them both stronger and better people.

What makes me sad about them: tragic backstories are tragic, and they both have that in spades. All that trauma does bring them closer together, but honestly, I think they would strongly connect with each other even if they both had significantly less bad happen too.

things done in fanfic that annoys me: I back out of a fic with a daddy kink, it’s just not for me! Um, sometimes Kate is too naïve or passive, and Seth is too soft and well adjusted. LOOK, he clearly enjoys being a jerk at times? It’s a hobby of his, to push buttons, even with people he loves. I’m not saying he’s not all heart, because that boy is a mess of emotions at the best of times, but let him keep his edge too please.

things I look for in fanfic: PARTNERS, Kate healing after Season 3, their different experiences in life and love being explored, uncomfortable honesty bringing them closer together, and TOUCHING are the big ones that come to mind right now.

My kinks: PARTNERS IN CRIME, SAVING THE WORLD, bringing different skills to the table in a way that compliments each other, bickering and standing too close to together, Seth teasing Kate, Kate giving as good as she gets, Seth being so damn impressed by her, Kate seeing the good and bad in Seth and loving him anyway, touching, Being Married AF before they even knew they loved each other.

Who I’d be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: After season 3, no one else.

My happily ever after for them: Well, I feel strongly about their twelve daughters now thanks to @alwaysupatnight​, but as long as they have each other’s backs and are together, I’d be happy with whatever comes next for them.

who is the big spoon/little spoon: I think Seth is more clingy in bed, so I’m going with Seth being the big spoon. Kate doesn’t mind it at all, just to be clear.

what is their favorite non-sexual activity: I doubt I can top @fortysevenswrites​ straight to the point “crime” but I do think they would also just enjoy hanging out together, one on one . And since their family get togethers will always be a bit hectic, they deserve some solo together time. Take some vacations or road trips please.

Kastle and Firefly/TWD Crossover under the cut!

Kastle Ship:

when of if I started shipping it: I thought the had a ton of potential hospital scene where Frank says he would talk to “her” (they both sold that instant connection in way I don’t think I’ve ever so quickly believed before or since) but what pushed me into really shipping them was the diner scene, when Frank was using Karen as bait. The way they just clicked, and the fact that the longer they talked the more you could see they actually LIKED each other, and were realizing that themselves.. And the fact that it was very inconvenient on the timing for both of them just made it even more interesting for me.

my thoughts: Show was real interested and invested in their relationship, even if we didn’t get a lot of it. Clearly meant to be endgame.

What makes me happy about them: That spark of hope they light up in each other is just so neat. Though they are both extremely practical people when it comes to weighing the odds of things going well (and seeing that those odds are stacked against them) but it just makes that hope all the more special.

What makes me sad about them: What little I’ve seen of the Karen/Matt stuff makes me kind of sad on her behalf, and Frank and all his baggage is obviously pretty heartbreaking.

things done in fanfic that annoys me: I don’t read enough Punisher fanfic! I would hate for them to read as OOC just for the sake of a romance, but that’s true of all ships I ship. If they had kids, if Frank doesn’t have a ton of mixed emotions about it, I wouldn’t buy it I guess.

things I look for in fanfic: I enjoy reading a Frank who’s all in on the relationship! No waffling or messing around, he’s made his choice (if not his peace) on this. Karen being central to plot stuff is always fun, too. Get her out there investigating stuff!

My kinks: specific to them? I really like when they have to actually talk and address stuff, what’s happening between them, and what they want to happen. I think the show does a great job with them both being very aware of the situation they find themselves in with unspoken communication, but if they are going to go for it, give me some talk before things get to far along, please. ALSO, Frank being impressed by Karen, Karen not pulling any punches feelings wise, kindness to each other.

Who I’d be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: I don’t know, I guess theoretically either of them could be happy with someone else, but I don’t really think it would be anyone we’ve met in the show. And this is assuming Frank continues to make progress towards a more balanced life, obviously. I don’t think he would date anyone while actively being so consumed with being the Punisher.

My happily ever after for them: Up until the very last episode of Season 2 Punisher, I actually didn’t think a happy ending was possible for them? I was fine with it, there was always a bittersweet and practical quality to their connection that I actually enjoyed, But then we got to see Frank finally being proactive in rejoining the living instead of just flirting with the idea of an after, and now I think it could work, the two of them, figuring out how to be together, and what happens next.

who is the big spoon/little spoon: I’m going to say Karen is big spoon, cause I think Frank is in need of some serious cuddling.

what is their favorite non-sexual activity: Lazy Sunday mornings reading the paper over coffee, and hanging out with the dog/dogs they’ve adopted.

Firefly/TWD Crossover OTP:

A tough one! I am not good a creating couples, I just judge want I see normally  🤣. BUT, I could see Kaylee/Shane working for me, honestly. She would definitely give him a much needed dressing down when he needed one, and he would benefit A LOT from someone actually caring about him, and Kaylee is really great at caring for people. I think he would do better in her world than she would in his. Shane would fit right in with the morally ambiguous crew, and TWD world is just too damn bleak to deserve Kaylee.

[ddixons-angel]

Fated: Season 1

Summary: Gloria Rhee narrowly escapes Atlanta with her brother as the outbreak reaches the city. Luckily, they find a camp outside the city and together, they fend through encounters with the living and undead.

Starts a little before Season 1 and then follows the main storyline of the show.

Pairing: Daryl Dixon x Glenn Sister!OC

Warnings: major TWD spoilers, language, violence (the typical TWD stuff)

A/N: I’m thinking of maybe posting this 2 times a week instead of just once, but I’m not sure. Any takers on this??? 

And...I’m not 100% sure what season the gif is from... might not be Season 1... but it fits so I’m using it still :D 

Chapter 3:

It had been a few days since Gloria helped Daryl with his injuries when he fell in the woods. The two haven’t talked much since then, Daryl seemed to be purposely avoiding her and keeping his distance from the campsite in general. He had already went out into the woods to hunt fresh meat for the group. Gloria was sitting around the unlit campfire with Carol as she looked after her daughter, Sophia, and Carl, a boy close to Sophia’s age. 

“So, how’s the end of the world treating you?” Gloria asks Carol, breaking the silence.

Carol smiles softly at her, “not too bad, we have a safe camp, and I have my daughter. What more could I ask for? What about you?”

“I’d like to think we’re pretty blessed, given the circumstances. Although... I do wish Glenn didn’t have to go into the city alone so often for supplies.” Gloria sighs, admitting her worry for her brother.

“He’s doing a very brave thing, your brother. We owe him a lot,” Carol pats Gloria’s back gently, “I also heard that they’re planning a big run with a few others into the city.” 

Gloria looks at Carol, her eyebrow raised, “Really?”

“Well, that’s what I heard from Dale.” Carol shrugs, she then looks up to see Lori, Carl’s mother, walking by, “Good morning, Lori.”

Carol’s call out to her makes Lori stop in her tracks and looks over to her and Gloria sitting there with the kids. She gives a forced smile then carries on her way into the woods. Gloria frowns slightly but then notices that someone else is lurking in the woods, seemingly waiting for Lori. 

Gloria turns to Carol and leans in to whisper to her so the kids don’t hear her, “what do you think she’s up to? I’ve seen her sneaking off quite a bit lately.”

Carol does the same and whispers back, “I can’t be completely certain, but I think I’ve seen her getting particularly close with Shane, I mean, they knew each other before I even met them.” 

“But... Shane isn’t Carl’s dad, right?” Gloria asks, she never wanted to pry into any of the other inhabitant’s private lives but her curiosity was getting the best of her.

Carol shakes her head, “No, I don’t think I’ve ever heard Carl calling Shane dad, I think I heard that Lori lost her husband just before everything happened.”

“And she’s with another man already?” Gloria looks at Carol with a shocked look; she’s usually not one to judge another’s choices, but Lori really didn’t look the type to move on so fast.

“Well, who can really blame her? With everything that’s happened, I think she needs someone to lean on, I know I would. Not everyone is as strong as you are, Gloria.” Carol smiles at Gloria.

Gloria scoffs in embarrassment at Carol’s words and shakes her head, about to deny the older woman’s words until Sophia calls for her mother.

“Mommy, look!” Sophia excitedly exclaims, holding up a drawing she just created, “it’s me and you!”

Carol smiles lovingly at her daughter, “I love it, sweetie.”

Gloria leans her arms on her knees, leaning in while smiling at Sophia, “wow, you did that? It’s just as beautiful as your mom!” 

Sophia gleems at her words, giggling and looking back at her masterpiece, and then it’s Carl’s turn to want attention, “look at mine!” he says, holding up his drawing of a dinosaur.

“Is that a t-rex?!” Gloria asks excitedly, wanting to hype up the little boy.

Carl grins proudly and nods, “Yeah! Look at it’s sharp teeth! Isn’t it scary?”

“Yep, super scary. Oh man, I don’t know if I’ll be able to sleep tonight after seeing that, I might have nightmares!” Gloria pretends to cower back and shiver, causing the boy to laugh.

Carl holds the drawing out closer to Gloria and makes a growling noise and Gloria growls back playfully, Carol and Sophia laughing at the amusing scene in front of them. Carol’s laughter is cut short by her husband, Ed, as he calls out to her and Sophia to return back to their tent. She looks to Gloria apologetically and goes off with her daughter. Gloria shoots her a sympathetic look as she watches the two walk away; she felt that there was something off about Ed the first time she laid eyes on him, but she had no proof that anything was happening within the small family.

“Hey,” Glenn greets as he sits down where Carol was sitting previously, “we’re planning a group run into the city tomorrow.” 

Gloria nods, “I heard, Carol told me. Who’s going with you?”

“T-Dog, Andrea, Jacqui, Morales and... Merle.” Glenn sighs as he says the last name on the list.

“He’s going with you guys? Are you sure that’s a good idea?” she frowns at the mention of Merle as well.

“I don’t like it either, but Dale says that we should give the guy a chance to prove himself or something.” Glenn explains, a look of worry still etched on his face.

“Well... I guess we shouldn’t really argue with Dale. Plus, there are more of you than him, if he does start anything, you guys can back each other up,” Gloria says, putting her arm around Glenn’s shoulders, “you should watch your back though, if he can’t get revenge on me, he might target you.” 

Glenn looks at her then nods, “I will.” he then turns his attention to Carl who’s adding more to his dinosaur drawing, “Hey buddy, is that a t-rex?!”

---

Later that day, Daryl had come back from a very successful hunting trip as he brought back a deer for the group. The others had helped him skin the animal and prepare for a nice feast that evening. The fire was lit and the inhabitants of the camp had taken their seats around the campfire, even both the Dixon brothers had decided to join them.

“I can’t believe that after all this time, we still don’t know anything about our new recruits!” Dale proclaimed as everyone was enjoying their dinner, “Glenn, Gloria, why don’t you two talk a bit about yourselves?” 

The siblings look at each other then the rest of the anticipating group, surprised and slightly embarrassed by the sudden attention. 

“What about them?” Gloria says, gesturing to the Dixon brothers, “They’re new too, technically, they’re newer than us.” 

“Nuh uh, ladies first.” Merle pipes up with a mocking grin on his face.

Daryl doesn’t say anything in protest, then Gloria looks to Glenn who shrugs and then gestures for her to start talking. Gloria scoffs at her brother and shoots him a playful glare.

“Alright then,” Gloria clears her throat, “where do I begin?” 

“You could start with where you were before all this started. What you were doing with your life, stuff like that.” Shane smirked at her, clearly knowing that she did not want to talk about yourself.

Gloria squints at him then sighs, “Well, Glenn and I were born and raised in Michigan. I decided I wanted to go to school at the Georgia State University..” 

“What did you major in?” Amy asks curiously. 

“I double majored in health sciences and music. My parents didn’t really want me to go into the musical field so I had to negotiate with them that if I study to become a doctor then they’d have to let me study music at the same time.” Gloria explains, “I was also interning as a nurse at a hospital just before this all started.” 

“We have a doctor amongst us!” Dale exclaims happily, raising his cup of his old liquor in joy.

The rest also raised their cups, expressing their thanks and happiness that they have a person with a medical background in their group. Gloria smiles shyly and looks to Glenn to take some of the attention away from her.

Glenn chuckles at her then clears his throat, “and while she was busy studying to be the first rockstar doctor, I’ve just been delivering pizzas all over the city.”

This information caused Merle to belt out a laugh, “so you’re just saying that you’re the blacksheep of the family? Letting yer sister do all the hard work while you’re just delivering pizzas?” 

“Well... I...” Glenn’s face blushes a deep red in embarrassment, unable to find words.

“He’s not a blacksheep or anything close to that, alright?” Gloria speaks up, angry that Glenn is being put down, “He could have gotten his own education, he’s smart enough to do that on his own, but do you know why he decided to come to Atlanta with me? He wanted to make sure I had everything provided for me, so he worked his ass off to pay for my education. I wouldn’t have been able to study to become a doctor if he hadn’t sacrificed his own education for mine!”

Glenn puts his hand on Gloria’s back to calm her down, “it’s okay, stop.” he whispers into her ear.

Merle rolls his eyes at Gloria’s rant, “and yet he still needs his baby sister to defend him.”

“Merle... jus’ shut it...” Daryl mutters quietly so that only his brother can hear; he’d stopped eating and was just looking down at his plate ever since Merle opened his mouth the first time.

“You know what? Why don’t you tell us about you and what you’ve accomplished then because I’m sure you aren’t the blacksheep of your family.” Glenn says angrily, his voice dripping with sarcasm.

Now huffing with anger at Glenn’s words, Merle starts to lunge forward to him but Daryl catches him first before he reaches Glenn. Daryl holds him back then eventually pushes him back in the direction to the brothers’ tents.

“Merle, tha’s enough!” Daryl shouts, glaring at his brother. 

Merle, still panting angrily, finally storms off to his tent but not before shooting Daryl a glare that clearly said he’s going to get it later. 

Daryl sighs and sits back down, “Sorry ‘bout him, he never actually gets along wit’ anyone unless they’re drunk or high.” 

An awkward silence is evident around the campfire when Gloria tries to lighten up the mood, “hey, I don’t think we’ve thanked Daryl yet for the deer, this is probably the most any of us have eaten since the world ended.”

“That is true! Let’s drink to that, to Daryl and his deer!” Dale says happily, once again raising his cup.

The others follow suit, all thanking Daryl for the fresh meat as he shifts uncomfortably, not used to the positive attention. 

“Hey Daryl, do you have any hunting stories?” Carl asks excitedly, sitting in his mother’s lap.

“Uh...” Daryl hesitates then he catches Gloria’s eyes as she gives him an encouraging nod, “well, there was tha’ one time I was huntin’ for squirrels in the woods and I saw a chupacabra.” 

“A chupacabra? What’s that?” Carl asks, looking up at Shane like he had all the answers.

Shane grins and leans forward, “Chupacabra? It’s like a vampire-dog, or something like that.” 

This causes the rest of the group to start chuckling, making it obvious that they don’t believe Daryl’s story. 

He looks around and glares at the group laughing at him, “ya don’ believe me?” 

Trying to stifle his laughter, Dale responds, “well Daryl, you’re asking us to believe in a mythical creature.” 

“I know what I saw.” Daryl says firmly, still glaring at everyone laughing at him.

Gloria tilts her head, “you know, that actually reminds me of the time we went camping and I saw Bigfoot.” 

“Gloria, you did not see Bigfoot.” Glenn says as he facepalms in second hand embarrassment.

“Yes, I did. You, mom, dad, and Gena kept telling me it was a bear but I know what I saw, it was Bigfoot.” Gloria argues, the rest of the group now amused by the bickering of the two siblings.

“That’s because it was a bear! Gloria, you were 6, how would you know what you saw?” Glenn is adamant on his point.

“First of all, I was 7. Second, I showed you the footprints, they were this big,” Gloria holds her hands up and demonstrates that the footprint was close to 2 feet long, “no bear has this big a foot, but do you know what has a foot this big?”

Glenn is about to retort when Daryl beats him to it, “Bigfoot.” the others, including Gloria and Glenn, turn to look at him, “I believe ya.”

Gloria grins at him, “Thank you! I believe you too,” she raises her arm in expectation for a high five to which Daryl hesitantly but eventually reciprocates; the two of them share a look, hinting at a mutual trust towards one another. 

The rest of the night carries on with stories of Dale's past and Andrea and Amy's fishing trips. The group drink and dine until it gets late and the children are falling asleep in their parent's arms. 

---

In the morning, Glenn is getting the planned group prepared for the supply run into the city. The others who are not going on the run had given them a list of items to look out for. Glenn is looking over the map of the city, going over which places to search and where to avoid. Everyone going, including Merle, were listening to his instruction and taking mental notes. Gloria’s leaning by the RV listening as well, she figured that in case things went sideways, she’d at least know what places to go to start looking for the group. 

“Hey Gloria.” Daryl calls out as he walks towards the campsite, beckoning her to come over to him.

“What’s up?” Gloria says as she approaches him, “your wrist okay?”

Daryl hums and nods, not looking at her, “this ain’ ‘bout that. Are ya goin' on the run?”

“No, I’m not. Why? Is there anything you needed from the city? I can ask Glenn to-” she gets cut off by Daryl.

“Can ya go?” he finally looks up at her to see her blinking at him, looking confused at his request, “Merle’s goin’ with 'em, right?” Daryl confirms as she nods, “I need ya to go to keep him in check, make sure he don’ get himself or anyone else killed, ya know?”

Understanding what Daryl’s inferring, she nods, “You sure I can do that?”

“You’re the only one wit’ enough guts to kick his ass, so I’d say yeah, ya can.” Daryl smirks at her.

This earns a chuckle out of Gloria who finally agrees, “Alright fine, but I can’t guarantee your brother will be in one piece if he starts shit with anyone.”

Daryl scoffs and rolls his eyes, “just don’ kill him and we’ll be fine.” 

“No promises,” Gloria chuckles again, “but how come you don’t go yourself, you seem to be fine with keeping him in check.”

Daryl makes a face and shakes his head, “Nah, I was plannin’ to go huntin’, wanted to go out further in the woods, see if I can get another buck or somethin’. I’ll prolly be out for a day or two.” 

Understanding, Gloria nods, “Alright, you be careful out there though. Watch out for any creeks.” she teases with a smile.

Scoffing and rolling his eyes again, “yeah, whatever. Ya be careful too.” 

Daryl turns and makes his way back to his and his brother’s tents and Gloria goes to Glenn who had just finished explaining the plan to the other runners. 

“Glenn!” she calls out to her brother, making him turn around to face her, “what’s the plan, I’m going with you guys.”

Glenn frowns at this, “What? Why?” 

Gloria glances around her and then back at Glenn, she starts to speak in Korean in fear of Merle eavesdropping on the two, “the loud idiot is going with you, I don’t trust him going with you guys.”

“I thought we talked about this, we’ll be fine. I’ll watch my back along with the others.” Glenn responds back in Korean.

“His brother thinks I should go with you because I’m the only one who can kick his ass. He asked me to go and keep him in check, I already told him I would.” Gloria explains, again in their mother tongue.

Glenn stays silent for a bit, thinking to himself then finally nods, responding back in English,  “alright, fine, here’s the plan...”

Gloria listens intently to the plan Glenn had mapped out on the city map, taking in every detail to make sure as best she can that nothing goes sideways. The group gets into the truck and are about to head off into the city. Glenn makes it a very important point to not wander off alone and to keep as quiet as possible so as to not attract any unwanted attention, whether it be from walkers or other people. To put simple, the plan is to get in, get what they need, then get out. 

---

Next Chapter

So for this chapter, I really wanted to show a bit of bonding between Daryl and Gloria, and I also wanted to throw in come of Glenn and Gloria’s family background and culture there too, hope it all made sense! 

I would really appreciate any comments left for me! I’ll be replying to any comments in a new post because this is a sideblog! 

[psalm40speakstome]

My lengthy rambles from The Do Do Sol Sol LaLa Sol Finale:

It’s only five minutes in and I can’t handle it.

Right so Hariboji woke up..definitely a yahoo but I’m guessing we’re gonna only be allowed one miracle per episode..

Goodness I think the biggest problem is how it’s still sounding and filming like a romantic comedy...I mean my nervous system can’t handle when it switches so I don’t want it all the time but at the same time it feels like a betrayal.

Haribojo knows.

I’m trying to laugh hard at the funny parts to process, also grunting, yelling and deep breathing to process

Shouting “No” in Korean and “YAH!” A lot this sucks..

Oooh Flight Of The Bumblebee go Jae Min!

Great the most sweetest duet via technology with a montage. It’s so beautiful and heartbreaking and hitting a little to close to home since I’m sick and my family far away is sick

Is anyone recording this for Jun because assuming he’s not dead yet I’d at least like to know he saw it.

Haribojo knows. I mean He really really knows. He’s all of us watching this. That’s to heavy a burden for him to carry alone...

I should know I’m carrying it too.

Oh my gosh I did get joy out of Mimi as Santa and I’m not a dog person but she’s been fabulous

That’s his Mom... he’s already gone so the question about recording is moot.

Sinking feeling sinking feeling

Ugggghhhh whhhhhyyyyy.

I’m crying they’re all crying this isn’t fair.

I don’t watch Kdrama for real life endings

Why is there still like twenty minutes left of this thing.....just break my heart and be done with it. A stupid twenty minutes gives me weird traitorous hope even though I’ve already been broken by all past tense references the “was ill” was etc...” “video recorded a month ago.

And the actual confirmation he died.

And no RaRa did not deserve to have her father die AND the love of her life. Jun didn’t deserve it either and I know that’s not how life works BELIEVE me I know...but I don’t need it in my KDrama that was supposed to end happy.

And her happy in the future without the love of her life is NOT a happy ending to me.....Why must you Bonnie and Enzo me!?

Also that reference to TVD OTP is evidence of my LOVE for RaRa and Jun if my brain is making Bonnie and Enzo parallels.

In the midst of this I’m so proud of myself for processing and feeling my feelings and being present I can’t even. Well done me.

FIIIIIVVVEEE YEARS LATERR!!!!!

Wait a second what happening why is there a baby?

I don’t know if this is good our bad!. I’m conflicted the child is adorable...what?! is it their child?!

If it is and Jun didn’t get to know or meet it I’m still very upset.

Whooooooo’s Appa?!?!

Aaaaaaaaahhhhyhhy wwhwhwwhhhhaaaaatttt iiissishshss. Happpaaaneingging

Oh okay that makes more sense about Appa. And their married that’s cute even in the midst of other things

Great so she’s happy and alone is that’s what happening here? NOT a happy ending but if you marry her to someone else I will cut you so there’s that. This drama is bringing out my salty and violent words side on the internet so I apologize to the writers(I won’t really cut you) (double apologize after seeing the ending...I’m sorry...I was under a lot of stress)

Yes if Ha Yeong gets to join TWD Seung Gi should too.

Awww good for Jae Min

Hariboji died too that’s so great.

Yes talk about the people who are no longer with you but WHY is that’s the case?!?

Yes never forget them

Dr Cha gave his ex wife/current girlfriend lettuce.....Lettuce....aaaahhhh

I’m genuinely happy for all other couples who are together but come on kisses if you are trying to heal my heart with them I WANT kisses. Especially for my five year’s married cuties.

Never going to be over Jun being in pain NEVER.

I have a twitch and it’s probably Lyme related but I’m going to blame this episode.

I’m just waiting for the confusion to drop because I know the ending confusing...I even had my Mom google if he died because I thought it’d be better to know but she couldn’t find out anything and considering some of your reactions I’m wainting for the confusion to hit.

Whaaaaattttssss happening? Goodness he looks good in a suit but what’s happening?

What’s happening you said he died?! Is RaRa dead? Why would he lie? I need an explanation?! Can I hope?! I don’t need it all explained just CAN I HOPE?!

Oh goodness that’s so mean to let me and someone believe your dead...but he’s not dead....I’m crying and laughing like I was at the end of Angel’s Last Mission love...this is going to take time to recover from. Slightly hyper ventilating. Very confused about my feelings

You also need to wipe my tears and help me believe you’re real Jun.

Okay underneath all the Lyme and depression I AM an optimist and I’ve hoped for happy endings with less....but I don’t think this drama will ever be unlinked with sorrow and slight confusion for me because of all the pain I went through.

I’m just hoping I can believe the end more as I process more even though it’s a terrible thing to do to someone and I suffered emotional trauma along with my characters.

I think ever watcher should receive complementary kisses from Lee Jae Wook to help us heal.

So I’m guessing they are saying he though he was dying and maybe he was...I’ve had close calls and so have many I loved. And then there was a miracle but he wanted to wait until fully recovered to tell them...and recover can take a long time. I have Lyme which is just as hard to treat as cancer(more so in some ways because we don’t get the funding...no disrespect in the meant to meant to cancer patients THEY deserve ALL the funding)

And a modest optimism for me would probably be five years at recovery...so I understand the time jump.

And I can’t believe he would make them all believe he was dying unless he thought he was because that’s to cruel....But maybe...I still love him even though that’s terrible. And am very grateful he alive but wouldn’t have minded even more confirmed for my nervous system.

I disconnect a little at the end but still proud of myself for mostly being connected and feeling my feelings....I think waiting was a good idea because despite this raither lengthy feels writing I actually did pretty good emotionally speaking.

I didn’t shut down I actually cried. That’s good for me. And I didn’t feel totally impaled by the sadness! Yay me! And I was even able to connect with my sad dramatic side and enjoy some of the sadness..super proud of myself.

I enjoy Scifi so I’m actually pretty okay with death loopholes and appreciate the writer for using one.

The biggest thing for me is he didn’t die...I can forgive a lot since he didn’t die.

I am still kinda fragile so I can’t really handle discourse about the ending.

Hearts to you and your processing journey but I’m an empath so I can’t really handle others feels at this time.

[shroudedhero]

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Also another small, but extremely important note beforehand: Due to my autism, I tend to try to be extra clear (but also sometimes manage to be less clear in the process), or in my head it is clear, but to other people, it comes across entirely differently, but I’ve been informed this makes my rules sometimes come across as more aggressive, exclusionary, or mean. So I will say this now. I am actually a MASSIVE fluffball. Quite literally. The tone they come across is mainly due to overexplaining however I have tried to edit them and have yet to find a way to redefine my rules in better wording that I am happy with and that feels like it covers everything while actually being properly clear (but whenever I finally think of the right wording, I usually update my rules). So just approach them with the knowledge I am actually legitimately a sweetheart and my brain just sucks at actually wording stuff.

If you followed me over here when I moved Kurai’s BNHA verse to this blog, I removed and edited a couple of rules so please read through them again.

- ★ First and most important thing is that the mun has a very serious cannibalism trigger, which includes ANY form of people being eaten (including animals or monsters or any such other creatures eating people). (Excluding vampires, as that doesn’t typically involve the eating of human flesh, and rather simply blood itself (I am COMPLETELY fine with blood and general dark and gorey things). Zombies however, are included). As such, please tag all SNK or Hannibal related posts with such things in them, even the ones without such scenes in them, due to the fact that these two shows/fandoms are the reason I learned I have this trigger, and so the entire thing now can cause my trigger due to association, and memory connection to it. Also I ask that you tag any other shows/fandoms/gifs with such things in them as well. Please and thank you very much. My blacklisted tags are: SNK, Shingeki No Kyojin, Attack On Titan, AoT, tokyo ghoul, tg, Hannibal, Cannibalism, tw: cannibalism, parasyte, tokyo ghoul, twd, the walking dead, walking dead, zombies, and hunting trophies.  Any form of these (capitalization does not matter, however spaces do) will be caught by my blacklist, so I would appreciate it if you’d use one of these for those posts (though I am also happy to add other tags to it as well if you have a specific system you use already). Also suggestions for other possible blacklist tags that I may have forgotten are much appreciated. Also as an added note, I will not follow, RP with, or associate in ANY WAY, any blogs that have to do with my triggers. (Multi-muse blogs can sometimes be okay, this more applies to blogs that post SPECIFICALLY about the fandoms that trigger me). If you are a multi-muse blog that has characters from these fandoms, all I ask is that you be sure to tag them with the fandom they are from, with one of the tags in my list, and tag any of the triggers. We’ll be perfectly fine if you do! If you don’t, I may eventually unfollow, just to avoid seeing unintentionally triggering content.

- Secondly, I am open to RPing smut, (either aged up, or not, since whether we like it or not, teenagers do indeed end up doing it), however it likely will not happen much since this muse is underage, and will only happen if both myself and the other mun are okay with it and have agreed to it. (Again, chances are slim.) I do prefer however if our smut RPs are placed under a read more, if at all possible.

- ★ I am autistic. I know I don’t seem like it at first, and sometimes it’s hard to tell, however I am, and I also have ADHD, and it does affect the way my mind works with things. Sometimes having things done certain ways makes all the difference between if I can do something or if I can’t. If it sounds like I want to do something, but seem to struggle with figuring out how, please feel free to make suggestions, or start the thing yourself! It’s actually REALLY helpful when I get stuck. My being autistic can also affect who I can roleplay with, and how I roleplay, and how I think. Please keep this in mind, and try to be understanding. If something bothers you, or you don’t understand something, just ask me! I’ll do my best to explain, or fix it.

- Though it may not always seem like it, I am VERY shy and awkward. I’m actually legitimately terrified of new people, and trying to talk to people I haven’t spoken to before, or very much yet, almost makes me feel like I’m going to have a panic attack. If you want to RP with me, please message me! Chances are I’d LOVE to chat with you and RP with you, I’m just too terrified to talk to you.

- I struggle with chronic depression, and sometimes I may disappear for a while if I have a spell that gets particularly bad. Please be patient with me, as I will never forget about you and will always return. Also since it needs to be said, I also have EXTREME, doctor diagnosed anxiety. Sometimes it gets the better of me. Same with depression. Sometimes I have bad days. So I vent, and get frustrated with things. Little things bother me a lot more than they would on a normal day. If you can’t handle that or are going to be a hypocrite about it then please just leave right now. I don’t need your negativity. I have enough unwanted of that in my head as it is, which I combat and fight against every day.

- I am a multiship/multiverse blog, however my muse will be very selective with shipping for the time being however I am still happy to discuss ships and will happily consider them. Also a note, that I will ship with multiples of the same character, if the mun of those blogs wishes to ship with me. I find each relationship is different, seeing as each mun plays their character a little differently.

- I will do crossovers sometimes with fandoms I am familiar with. Crossovers always depend on my mood and how well my muse can interact with a character, as well as how well I know the series the character is from. Please forgive me if I choose not to roleplay a specific crossover. I still like you, I promise. If you’re unsure if I know your fandom, just ask! I do know of a lot of fandoms, so there’s a good chance I might.

- I ship based on chemistry. Sometimes I can develop a ship quickly, especially if I know the other muse’s personality well, and know they will mesh well with mine. Other times, a ship takes time for me to develop. Please be understanding and patient with me on this.

- Do NOT under any circumstances, force a ship on me. I am usually quite good at expressing ships I am okay with, and it will usually show in my writing. If you are unsure if I ship something or not, feel free to send me a message and ask me. Most of my characters have their own way of showing interest in someone, however most are usually pretty clear in expressing it in some way. Sending memes for interaction is fine for anyone whether we have interacted or not, and I will usually reply to those, however do not force a ship on me outside of that. If one develops between our characters, then fine. However that is a MUTUAL thing, so I do not take kindly to someone just deciding something is a thing. If you want to try to build one between our characters, then go ahead. Just please show me respect. That is the biggest and most important thing with me, is respect.

- I will write anything from 1 liners to multi-paragraphs when I RP. I usually stick to 1 or two shortish paragraphs, and that tends to fluctuate or shrink depending on how much information is needed to describe a scene. If we start out with a shorter paragraph, and I make a reply a fair bit longer, I will likely revert back to the shorter paragraph again within 1 or 2 replies. However you are welcome to write however you wish, just as long as you can give me something to go on. (A one liner in response to a 10 line paragraph for example, I will struggle to reply to.)

- I do not tolerate anon hate of any kind. Not towards myself, nor towards others. I will respond to it in a way that will make the sender feel rather like an idiot, and I am very smart and capable of doing so, so please be advised of that, if you intend to do so.

- I will RP more violent NSFW RPs, and other dark topics (I absolutely LOVE angst), however ONLY as long as I am in the mood for them. The mun of this blog is (well) over 18. Everything though that might be triggering, will be tagged, and if there is something that you need me to tag, or if I forget to tag something, please feel free to tell me. Just try to do so right away or else I can forget which RPs or replies to tag depending how long it goes since I posted it. My memory is pretty fickle with what it chooses to remember without some nudging.

- ★ I am better at roleplaying ships with males (BoyxBoy/Yaoi/etc), due to being more familiar with it and having more experience with it ((as I myself am very very very gay, and also trans (which is where the issues with writing about female parts makes me very uncomfortable comes from) )). I may however attempt to ship romantically with female characters, but please keep in mind it is something I am not as good at or as comfortable with, so if in the end, I decide I am unable to do so, please be understanding of this. (Especially if smut is included in the ship. I cannot smut with female characters, sorry.)

- I am slightly fickle about things I can reply to. I try very hard to reply to everything, however one thing I am not good at, is sudden changes in roleplays. As much as I hate to admit it, and try to pretend it isn’t true, and even though I am quite good at managing it most times, I am autistic, (high functioning form of autism) and that is one of the few issues I struggle with the most. If you sense a roleplay is changing directions, please hint at it to me in the tags or something the reply before it does, since even that small little hint can be enough to help keep me from having to drop an RP. Even if you are unsure if it will or not, letting me know that you think it MIGHT possibly happen (since we don’t control our characters) is a huge help to me. This particular issue is the main reason that 95% of my dropped threads end up dropped. And I always feel terrible when it happens, so please help me to get better at this.

- I can be slow sometimes (or often) with asks or replies. This usually happens because of my muse being fickle or me thinking a meme or ask prompt would be fun, however sometimes when I actually get them, my muse decides to just be like NOPE. Also sometimes I tend to forget things, or leave stuff in my askbox to reply to later, and then I forget about it or get distracted. If this happens, I apologize. Please try to be understanding of this, since I will NEVER ignore you or your asks on purpose. (The only case where it would be ignored is if it is something stated in my rules that I cannot respond to, that you obviously failed to read or are attempting to do anyway.) I do reblog things with the INTENT to answer EVERYTHING that shows up in my inbox, however my intentions don’t always pan out.

- I do not do the reblog from the source thing (not consistently anyway). I used to try to do it every single time (if I notice it), though now, I am sorry but I have had so many anxiety attacks due to my attention span which I cannot help due to having ADHD, and accidentally reblogging memes and such from someone who has that rule without even realizing it as I am scrolling down the dash because I don’t even realize who reblogged the meme, and then panicking because I realize it later, or get yelled at over it. I follow at least like 30+ meme blogs and the majority of memes on my dash tend to be from the source, so sometimes I don’t notice! Roleplay for me needs to remain stress free, because stress can trigger a major/serious depression spell and as of recently I FINALLY am stable emotionally. So please forgive me if I don’t bother with it. Because I probably won’t do it (consistently anyway).

Next topic of discussion.

Concerning OCs and shipping with them (Please see this post for some further clarification on this, since this is the part that I have the most issue with making clear, though I really do try):

- I am in fact OC supportive! Though when it comes to RPing with them, I can be extremely picky, and cautious. This has nothing to do with whether your OC is great or well developed or not. My brain annoyingly happens to have trouble connecting to a lot of characters, both OC and canon, but it just seems to be more common with other people’s OCs. HOWEVER, just because I might not RP with your OC, doesn’t mean I won’t secretly stalk them from the dash and read your interactions because I think they’re amazing.

- I WILL NOT ship my muses with other OCs, unless they are extremely well developed. This is simply because unless I personally can form some form of an an emotional connection/understanding to/of a character, my own muse will be unable to do so as well. (This can also apply to canon characters as well, so it is not simply limited to OCs).

- I am also very picky with RPing with other OCs, because of the same reason stated above. I will however roleplay with them sometimes, and do not in any way dislike them. I rather love OCs, and the diversity and color they bring to fandoms, and I actually have lots of OCs of my own for different fandoms, I just cannot always connect to them, and in those cases, I will not be able to roleplay with them. I apologize. HOWEVER. If possible, I will happily do platonic RPs with OCs that my muses happen to click with.

The types of characters/OCs I am usually unable to roleplay with, are the following, which includes a list of reasons why:

- ★ OCs that are not connected to any fandom in particular/Multifandom OCs. Basically as I like to call them, floaters or drifters. I may attempt to roleplay with these. It can still be iffy, because my brain can sometimes make stuff more difficult than it actually is or needs to be, and it depends on each particular OC, but as I have recently been developing a fandomless OC myself, I find my understanding of them has grown a bit. That said, sometimes I need to be able to connect them with something, as each fandom has a specific world to them. I need a consistent, solid world anchor to be able to understand the character, which drifters don’t have, so I can struggle to RP with them. I’m willing to try though!

- OCs from fandoms I am unfamiliar with. If I don’t know what sort of world/background your character comes from, it leaves me guessing too much and confused. I have attempted to roleplay with them anyway in the past and it just doesn’t work.

- OCs with very little backstory and information, or with a confusing one, or even with none at all. In essence, poorly made OCs. I need info to RP with you. At least seriously. So sorry. I need to be able to understand your character at least a little, since I don’t do good with “lets play a guessing game” or “I literally have no idea what I’m doing” or “what the hell is going on” sort of RPs, and I have never been good at them, and so I need clear, concise information on your character.

- Canonically (or noncanon since this is an OC as well) unknown family member OCs. Whether it’s a sibling for my character or for someone else’s that was never mentioned in canon, I just can’t. (If you want to RP a family member of my character that I have mentioned in my character’s info, please ask me beforehand as I usually have an idea already of what their family member is like, but usually I will be okay with that as long as you ask me first before just going ahead and doing it.) I’ve never been able to RP with them, for a multitude of reasons, one of the main being they often end up reminding me of the bad version of self inserts or genderbends. I have been unsuccessful at breaking this way of thinking towards them despite attempting to many times, and so I just cannot do it, personally. I am sorry.

Important reminder: Please note that I suck at explaining this somewhat, and just because my brain struggles with roleplaying with certain characters does not mean I dislike your muse or think they suck! I can think your OC is absolutely AMAZING and they can be SUPER well written and developed and I can want to interact but my brain is just dumb and if I try to my brain just refuses. These SAME issues can happen with canon characters too, I have simply noticed it more with other OCs, thus the specific section for them.

Those are all the ones I can think of right now. I am very sorry to anyone who has one of these and wants to RP with me, however I simply cannot do it, personally. I’m sure there are plenty of other people out there though who would love to RP with you even though I cannot, and just because I will not RP with you doesn’t mean I dislike you or your character. I’d be happy to still be friends with you, I just won’t be able to RP with you. I’m someone who needs to be able to connect to the character I am roleplaying with on at least SOME level, for my character to be able to connect to them as well, so if I am unable to do that then I am unable to roleplay with them. (This can include as well, the WAY someone roleplays, since if there is no emotion or thought or description in replies, it gives me nothing to go on and connect to, and leaves me unable to respond, even if I WANT to RP with you.)

★ I hate to have to do this (and I never used to have a password), however I have had A LOT of trouble with people not reading and following my rules in the past, and or speaking about or talking about/not tagging my major trigger, so if you have read my rules, please inbox me with “Catshark” (I prefer Inbox over IMs for the password so I can keep track forever of who sent it in). I ask this of people because it also helps a lot with my anxiety, and keeps me from wondering and worrying in the back of my mind if I might actually get triggered by something. I know it can be tedious to do this extra step, and I hate that I even had to add this step in the first place, however after years of roleplaying, and dealing with people, it became necessary due to several bad past experiences in tumblr fandoms. It was not added on a whim, so please take the time to do so. Also, I do understand that you probably follow a hundred blogs that all have their own rules, so if you forget stuff, that’s okay! I do it too. The password is just so I know it is safe for me to approach you and remind you of something if you do forget. Otherwise, I tend to sit here and kind of panic about if I can mention something to you (it has happened before that someone who didn’t send it in and came across friendly bit my head off when I asked them to tag something), and it means I am more likely to unfollow or stop interacting, or even block you eventually due to my anxiety. And I don’t want that to happen over a silly misunderstanding.

There may be more added to this later if I think of something. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

[kokoro-no-kizuna]

Mobile Friendly Rules (Read Before Interacting)

THESE ARE JUST A FEW GENERAL THINGS I FEEL ARE IMPORTANT TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER, SO PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THEM.

I know they seem long but some of it is also just information I thought was important for you to know before interacting with me.  And a lot of it is generic stuff too but please still read anyway. 

- ★ First and most important thing is that the mun has a very serious cannibalism trigger, which includes ANY form of people being eaten (including animals or monsters or any such other creatures eating people). (Excluding vampires, as that doesn’t typically involve the eating of human flesh, and rather simply blood itself. Zombies however, are included). As such, please tag all SNK or Hannibal related posts, especially with such things in them, but even the ones without such scenes in them, due to the fact that these two shows/fandoms are the reason I learned I have this trigger, and so the entire thing now can cause my trigger due to association, and memory connection to it. Also I ask that you tag any other shows/fandoms/gifs with such things in them as well. Please and thank you very much. My blacklisted tags are: SNK, Shingeki No Kyojin, Attack On Titan, AoT, tokyo ghoul, tg, Hannibal, Cannibalism, tw: cannibalism, twd, the walking dead, walking dead, zombies, and hunting trophies.  Any form of these (capitalization does not matter, however spaces do) will be caught by my blacklist, so I would appreciate it if you’d use one of these for those posts. Also suggestions for other possible blacklist tags that I may have forgotten are much appreciated. Also as an added note, I will not follow, RP with, or associate in ANY WAY, any blogs that have to do with my triggers. (Multi-muse blogs can sometimes be okay, this more applies to blogs that post SPECIFICALLY about the fandoms that trigger me). If you are a multi-muse blog that has characters from these fandoms, all I ask is that you be sure to tag them with the fandom they are from, with one of the tags in my list, and tag any of the triggers. We’ll be perfectly fine if you do!

- Secondly, I am not here just to to roleplay smut. I WILL do so if I feel like it and if the roleplay goes that direction after building up the relationship, however I am not here for that. I do prefer however if our smut RPs are placed under a read more, if at all possible. I will not RP smut with underage muns however. Underage muses, depending on the age (and if our muses are close to the same age, eg: Both our muses are 16, cuz teenagers do things, as much as we might dislike the fact they do, and no matter how much we wish they wouldn’t) I may still write it. It’s very dependent on the particular muses. I will not RP smut with a muse that is 18 or over, and a muse that is underage. I will not RP smut with muses that are legitimate children (14 and under). However despite my willingness to write it, it doesn’t mean that it will happen if the other mun is not comfortable with. I don’t force it. I don’t need it. I just basically accept that that kind of stuff happens, and it’s a very realistic thing. My nsfw tag is #n;sfw so you are aware, because the original nsfw tag doesn’t work as well anymore.

- ★ I am autistic. I know I don’t seem like it at first, and sometimes it’s hard to tell, however I am, and I also have ADHD, and it does affect the way my mind works with things. Sometimes having things done certain ways makes all the difference between if I can do something or if I can’t. If it sounds like I want to do something, but seem to struggle with figuring out how, please feel free to make suggestions, or start the thing yourself! It’s actually REALLY helpful when I get stuck. My being autistic can also affect who I can roleplay with, and how I roleplay, and how I think. Please keep this in mind, and try to be understanding. If something bothers you, or you don’t understand something, just ask me! I’ll do my best to explain, or fix it.

- Though it may not always seem like it, I am VERY shy and awkward. I’m actually legitimately terrified of new people, and trying to talk to people I haven’t spoken to before, or very much yet, almost makes me feel like I’m going to have a panic attack. If you want to RP with me, please message me! Chances are I’d LOVE to chat with you and RP with you, I’m just too terrified to talk to you.

- I struggle with chronic depression, and sometimes I may disappear for a while if I have a spell that gets particularly bad. Please be patient with me, as I will never forget about you and will always return. Also since it needs to be said, I also have EXTREME, doctor diagnosed anxiety. Sometimes it gets the better of me. Same with depression. Sometimes I have bad days. So I vent, and get frustrated with things. Little things bother me a lot more than they would on a normal day. If you can’t handle that or are going to be a hypocrite about it then please just leave right now. I don’t need your negativity. I have enough unwanted of that in my head as it is, which I combat and fight against every day.

- I am a multiship/multiverse blog, however my muses will likely be very selective with shipping for the time being however I am still happy to discuss ships and will happily consider them. Also a note, that I will ship with multiples of the same character, if the mun of those blogs wishes to ship with me. I find each relationship is different, seeing as each mun plays their character a little differently.

- I will do crossovers sometimes with fandoms I am familiar with. Crossovers always depend on my mood and how well my muse can interact with a character, as well as how well I know the series the character is from. Please forgive me if I choose not to roleplay a specific crossover. I still like you, I promise. If you’re unsure if I know your fandom, just ask! I do know of a lot of fandoms, so there’s a good chance I might.

- I ship based on chemistry. Sometimes I can develop a ship quickly, especially if I know the other muse’s personality well, and know they will mesh well with mine. Other times, a ship takes time for me to develop. Please be understanding and patient with me on this.

- Do NOT under any circumstances, force a ship on me. I am usually quite good at expressing ships I am okay with, and it will usually show in my writing. If you are unsure if I ship something or not, feel free to send me a message and ask me. Most of my characters have their own way of showing interest in someone, however most are usually pretty clear in expressing it in some way. Sending memes for interaction is fine for anyone whether we have interacted or not, and I will usually reply to those, however do not force a ship on me outside of that. If one develops between our characters, then fine. However that is a MUTUAL thing, so I do not take kindly to someone just deciding something is a thing. If you want to try to build one between our characters, then go ahead. Just please show me respect. That is the biggest and most important thing with me, is respect.

- I will write anything from 1 liners to multi-paragraphs when I RP. I usually stick to 1 or two shortish paragraphs, and that tends to fluctuate or shrink depending on how much information is needed to describe a scene. If we start out with a shorter paragraph, and I make a reply a fair bit longer, I will likely revert back to the shorter paragraph again within 1 or 2 replies. However you are welcome to write however you wish, just as long as you can give me something to go on. (A one liner in response to a 10 line paragraph for example, I will struggle to reply to.)

- I do not tolerate anon hate of any kind. Not towards myself, nor towards others. I will respond to it in a way that will make the sender feel rather like an idiot, and I am very smart and capable of doing so, so please be advised of that, if you intend to do so.

- I will RP more violent NSFW RPs, however ONLY as long as I am in the mood for them. Anything triggering will be tagged. The mun of this blog is (well) over 18.

- Apologies, but I absolutely WILL NOT RP with people who RP in first person. It is something I cannot stand and I just will not do it.

- ★ I am better at roleplaying ships with males (BoyxBoy/Yaoi/etc), due to being more familiar with it and having more experience with it ((as I myself am very very very gay, and also trans (which is where the issues with writing about female parts makes me very uncomfortable comes from) )). I may however attempt to ship romantically with female characters, since romantic ships I can do, but please keep in mind it is something I am not as good at or as comfortable with, so if in the end, I decide I am unable to do so, please be understanding of this. (Especially if smut is included in the ship. I cannot smut with female characters, sorry. I am well aware it’s dumb that my brain rebels to it but it doesn’t change the fact that it does.)

- I am slightly fickle about things I can reply to. I try very hard to reply to everything, however one thing I am not good at, is sudden changes in roleplays. As much as I hate to admit it, and try to pretend it isn’t true, and even though I am quite good at managing it most times, I am autistic, (high functioning form of autism) and that is one of the few issues I struggle with the most. If you sense a roleplay is changing directions, please hint at it to me in the tags or something the reply before it does, since even that small little hint can be enough to help keep me from having to drop an RP. Even if you are unsure if it will or not, letting me know that you think it MIGHT possibly happen (since we don’t control our characters) is a huge help to me. This particular issue is the main reason that 95% of my dropped threads end up dropped. And I always feel terrible when it happens, so please help me to get better at this.

- I can be slow sometimes (or often) with asks or replies. This usually happens because of my muse being fickle or me thinking a meme or ask prompt would be fun, however sometimes when I actually get them, my muse decides to just be like NOPE, or my depression kicks up and I lose all motivation. Also sometimes I tend to forget things, or leave stuff in my askbox to reply to later, and then I forget about it or get distracted. If this happens, I apologize. Please try to be understanding of this, since I will NEVER ignore you or your asks on purpose. (The only case where it would be ignored is if it is something stated in my rules that I cannot respond to, that you obviously failed to read or are attempting to do anyway.) I do reblog things with the INTENT to answer EVERYTHING that shows up in my inbox, however my intentions don’t always pan out.

Next topic of discussion.

Concerning OCs and shipping with them:

- I WILL NOT ship my muses with other OCs, unless they are extremely well developed. This is simply because unless I personally can form some form of an an emotional connection/understanding to/of a character, my own muse will be unable to do so as well.

- I am also very picky with RPing with other OCs, because of the same reason stated above. I will however roleplay with them sometimes, and do not in any way dislike them. I rather love OCs, and the diversity and color they bring to fandoms, and I actually have lots of OCs of my own for different fandoms, I just cannot always connect to them, and in those cases, I will not be able to roleplay with them. I apologize. HOWEVER. If possible, I will happily do platonic RPs with OCs that my muses happen to click with.The types of characters/OCs I am usually unable to roleplay with, are the following, which includes a list of reasons why.

- ★ OCs that are not connected to any fandom in particular/Multifandom OCs. Basically as I like to call them, floaters or drifters. I may attempt to roleplay with these. It can still be iffy, because my brain can sometimes make stuff more difficult than it actually is or needs to be, and it depends on each particular OC, but as I have recently been developing a few fandomless OCs myself, I find my understanding of them has grown a bit. That said, sometimes I need to be able to connect them with something, as each fandom has a specific world to them. I need a consistent, solid world anchor to be able to understand the character, which drifters don’t have, so I can struggle to RP with them. I’m willing to try though! I believe this issue is connected to my being autistic, since certain things my brain just refuses to understand unless it is worded a certain way or done a certain way.

- OCs from fandoms I am unfamiliar with. If I don’t know what sort of world/background your character comes from, it leaves me guessing too much and confused. I have attempted to roleplay with them anyway in the past and it just doesn’t work.

- ★ Self insert OCs. Really. Please just no. I cannot stand self inserts above all else other than Shipper OCs. Admittedly, there are a rare few good ones out there. (And those are fine). However those tend to be very few and far between, and 98% of them tend to fall into the not so good category to put it nicely, and I just.. I can’t do it. There is nothing else to say to this except just NO. I apologize for this, however I just can’t. Also, this applies to FULLY self inserts. This does not apply to characters that simply share some traits with you, as often we roleplay a character because we can connect to them somehow.

- Canon Genderbends (there are exceptions sometimes with these). This subject is a touchy one, since my mind is very rigid unfortunately when it comes to how I view them. This might stem from my own personal gender struggle (as I am trans and FtM), however genderbends have always been something I have a lot of issues with, and so 98% of the time, I will not RP with them because I have to fight my mind to reply. Temporary genderswap M!A’s however, when handled properly, are no issue for me, and in such cases I will happily roleplay with them.

- OCs with very little backstory and information, or with a confusing one, or even with none at all. In essence, poorly made OCs. I need info to RP with you. At least seriously. So sorry. I need to be able to understand your character at least a little, since I don’t do good with “lets play a guessing game” or “I literally have no idea what I’m doing” or “what the hell is going on” sort of RPs, and I have never been good at them, and so I need clear, concise information on your character.

- Shipper OCs. The type of character I hate more than any other. If you made your OC just so you could ship with a bunch of people and that is the only purpose for their existence, do not even talk to me, or approach my character. Don’t even try. I literally cannot stand these types, and they fall right up there with my hatred of self inserts. So sorry. But just no. This doesn’t mean I ship shame if your muse happens to end up in lots of ships. That’s fine. It happens. I know the feeling when muses just click with lots of other muses. Sometimes it’s like that. But if their ONLY purpose for existing, is just so you can ship with endless characters, please go away right now.

- Canonically unknown family member OCs. Whether it’s a sibling for my character or for someone else’s that was never mentioned in canon, I just can’t. (If you want to RP a family member of my character that I have mentioned in my character’s info, please ask me beforehand as I usually have an idea already of what their family member is like, but usually I will be okay with that as long as you ask me first before just going ahead and doing it.) I’ve never been able to RP with them, for a multitude of reasons, one of the main being they often end up reminding me of self inserts or genderbends. I have been unsuccessful at breaking this way of thinking towards them despite attempting to many times, and so I just cannot do it, personally. I am sorry.

Those are all the ones I can think of right now. I am very sorry to anyone who has one of these and wants to RP with me, however I simply cannot do it, personally. I’m sure there are plenty of other people out there though who would love to RP with you even though I cannot, and just because I will not RP with you doesn’t mean I dislike you or your character. I’d be happy to still be friends with you, I just won’t be able to RP with you. I’m someone who needs to be able to connect to the character I am roleplaying with on at least SOME level, for my character to be able to connect to them as well, so if I am unable to do that then I am unable to roleplay with them. (This can include as well, the WAY someone roleplays, since if there is no emotion or thought or description in replies, it gives me nothing to go on and connect to, and leaves me unable to respond, even if I WANT to RP with you.)

★ I hate to have to do this, however I have had A LOT of trouble with people not reading and following my rules in the past, and or speaking about or talking about/not tagging my major trigger, so if you have read my rules, please inbox or IM me with “Catshark”.  I ask this of people because it also helps a lot with my anxiety, and keeps me from wondering and worrying in the back of my mind if I might actually get triggered by something. I know it can be tedious to do this extra step, and I hate that I even had to add this step in the first place, however after years of roleplaying, and dealing with people, it became necessary due to several bad past experiences in tumblr fandoms. It was not added on a whim, so please take the time to do so.

There may be more added to this later if I think of something. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

[whateverisbeautiful]

Reveling in Richonne

#151: The Shoulder To Lean On (9x14)

Michonne was horribly betrayed by one of her old friends. And in order to stop that “friend” she has to call on one of her actual friends; Daryl. 

After Daryl’s big time friendship-shortcomings with Rick in the first half on s9, it was important that he step all the way up to be there for Michonne. And their friendship does get deeper with the following sequence of events where he’s a genuine shoulder to lean on. Cuz after all... 

So first, in the present we get this precious visual of Michonne having dinner with her kids. 🥰 And the empty fourth seat just feels like it’s meant to be Rick’s presence. 

RJ asks for, “more tomatoes please” like the polite little prince he is. 😋

Michonne smiles and says, “Of course you can, baby” as she selflessly gives him the food off her plate and smiles. RJ is so cute and the casting was so well done. I can totally believe he’d be Rick and Michonne’s kid.

Can I just take a moment to say, Rick would be really proud of the way Michonne’s raising these kids. Michonne is so balanced in a lot of ways, and it makes sense why something as traumatic as what she went through would make her tip the scale a bit and be a little more strict. But I love that she’s still trying to find that balance and give her kids a good full life. 

And it’s cool that as Judith grows up, Michonne’s not trying to make Judith soft or naïve to the world. She’s making her balanced. She wants her to both be a kid and be ready to defend herself in this world.

(Side note: I love that RJ’s always talking about food. Me and nephew RJ have that in common. 😂)

Seeing RJ with his little random lines is so cute and I’m just like; you know not the power you’re destined for because of the people you’re made up of. But just wait, little RJ. He’s pretty much destined for greatness. 

And y’all, just look at how Michonne looks at their baby. Preciousness personified.😭

Mama Michonne tells Judith to eat not poke her food and Judith looks so cute and tiny in the chair when she says, “Sorry, mom. I’m not that hungry.” Judith asks if it’d be okay for her to go to her room and Michonne says sure , and before leaving Judith says, “Thanks mom” with an undertone of sass.

I love how much Judith calls Michonne mom. Even if sometimes the tone has me like; watch it little girl you still talking to my big sister. 😂😂

So Michonne lies awake at night, and then she gets up restless cuz she doesn’t want there to be this disconnect between her and her daughter. She’s wrestling with the fact that it may be time to have the conversation she’d been holding off. And when she gets up we again see that huge x scar. 

Michonne knocks on Judith’s door and says she’d like to talk cuz she’s ready to tell Judith about their traumatic experience, but when she opens the door Judith isn’t there. 

You know Michonne’s willing to try anything to find Judith, even if it means doing the excruciating: having to talk to Negan. 

So the next thing we see is Michonne going to Negan’s cell and asking if Judith’s been there today.

Michonne also asks what Judith would even talk to Negan about and she wants specifics.

Cuz Judith and Negan don’t have anything they need to be discussing amongst just the two of them if you ask me. 

Negan says the two talk about homework and how much she misses her Uncle Daryl and that she likes hearing stories about her dad and Carl. But I was like uh Negan hardly knew Rick and Carl, and definitely never knew them as friends, so what kind of stories could Negan be telling Judith from his perspective of her dad and brother. 🤔

Like I can only even see Negan being in there telling her, “So Judith, here’s the story about how I hated your dad’s guts and tortured him and his people just cuz I could. Good times.” 🙄 

Negan says he lets her know about Carl sneaking in the Sanctuary and “dear old dad” Rick slicing his throat. And how they’re all old stories but they’re new to Judith. 

Michonne questions why he does this. She asks if it’s cuz he knows she has yet to tell her daughter the stories, or is it to build some trust with Judith that he can use? And at that second option I was like... 

Cuz that sounds like the right answer to me. I’m not saying Negan doesn’t have any semblance of a heart and I do think that he thinks he genuinely cares about Judith, but he still absolutely overstepped his boundaries by telling Judith things he knows is not his place. 

Negan, the king of overstepping, says that Judith talks to him cuz he shoots straight with her and then he says, “maybe if you did that you’d be talking to her right now instead of me.” The audacity. 😑

This man is really in this cell trying to tell Michonne how to mother her kid. It’s comically out of pocket. And Michonne seems to think so to cuz then she laughs and calls him out on how he probably has left out the story of what he did to Glenn and Abraham. 

But I was like no my good sis, this man crosses every line he can so of course he’s told her that story. And he confirms that when he then says he’s honest with her and answers any question she asks so, “yeah she’s heard those stories too.” Tried. It. 😒 

Negan seriously crossed the line on a new level by telling Judith those stories. 😒That’s not for Negan, the causer of these stories, to tell her. That should be entirely up to her mom. Especially cuz no matter how “honest” Negan thinks he is with her, I’m sure he makes himself sound a little better in those stories than he really was. 

All I can say about this whole thing from Negan and his trifling big mouth is...

#DirectQuote from Michonne and I’s mind lol. Michonne agrees that Negan’s tried it so she’s about to just walk out and leave, cuz listening to this man constantly attempt to jab and pick at personal stuff is a frustratingly exhausting experience. 

And then Negan starts saying, “She hates that you’re not letting new people in. She thinks that things should be like Carl thought they should be in the letter he wrote to her.” 

(Side note: TWD, lemme see that letter! And Michonne’s too!🙏🏽)

Michonne then is fed up with the fact that this man has crossed more lines than a to-do list so she slams the door and storms over to him to let him know, “No. You don’t get to talk to me about Carl.” Thank you. 👏🏽👏🏽He can keep the whole Grimes Family out of his mouth. 

Like Negan you think you bonded with Carl? You’re talking to the woman who bonded with him since season three and became his mother. So...

Michonne gets more passionate when she says, “And you definitely don’t get to tell me about what she wants or feels. She is my daughter!” Say it loud and proud. 🙌🏽

I’m glad Michonne got to go off on him and remind him that she is the mother who is raising Judith and she is the one who loves and knows her more than anything, so he does not get to impose on that or think he knows better in any way. Mama Michonne was in the building and I’m here for it. 👌🏽💯

Negan stands up and for once in his life starts talking some sense when he says, “That is exactly right. She is your daughter so she has her own idea about how things should be.” Michonne and Judith do have that in common. 

Negan realizes Michonne doesn’t know where Judith is so he says maybe she’s out petting a horse or “maybe she’s exactly like her mother.” Which, like Michonne, she would be out there not taking anything lying down. 👌🏽

All my Negan annoyance aside, I admit I like this line. I like that someone acknowledges how Michonne is a determined woman and how that rubbed off on Judith. Michonne’s daughter is like her mother. 

Michonne knows he might have a point with this, and similar to her going out in the front half of season seven to try and find a way, she has a hunch that her daughter might have left to try and find a way too. So she quickly leaves the cell.

Michonne then runs directly to Judith’s room and finds the gun gone.She also finds a note from Judith telling her mom she’s sorry but she has to help their friends. 

In a beautifully acted scene, we cut back to the past and Daryl and Michonne are out in the woods looking for Judith and the rest of the kidnapped Alexandria kids. 

Daryl says lets take a break cuz he sees that Michonne needs it. The woman is super pregnant after all.

Daryl understandingly says, “I know you want to be out here, but you got a baby, you know?” and Michonne looks at him like “Daryl, don’t say another word cuz I could be pregnant with quadruplets and I’d still be out here looking for my daughter”. Direct quote from her mind #YouAlreadyKnow. 😂 

And I love that, just from her look alone, Daryl knows to pull back.

They sit on the swings and Daryl’s reassuring that they’ll find Judith. Michonne says, “I can’t believe this. She was a friend, you know? Like a real one. We went through everything together. Figuring out who we were gonna be. Heartbreak. Losing my mom.” And y’all, when Michonne gets emotional, I get emotional so of course this got to me. 😢

Again, I do appreciate getting a bit more insight into Michonne as a person this episode. Especially getting to hear about Michonne’s mom and remember that Michonne’s not just the wife and mother we’ve come to love, she’s also a daughter. 

Michonne goes onto say, “I wanted her to be that again.” which also breaks my heart. 

And the part that strikes me most is her saying, “I needed it.” Y’all, she needed a friend and she knew that. 😭. She was in such a vulnerable spot at this time when she was pregnant and she just needed someone who felt like they were there for her. 

Part of losing the love of your life means losing your best friend. Rick wasn’t just Michonne’s husband, he was her best friend too. Plus Carl. And now they’re both gone.  She lost the person she laughs with and confides in. So it makes sense why she’d feel she needed Jocelyn, cuz she needed a friend after having just lost her closest one.

Again, after losing Rick and shortly after learning she’s pregnant with his baby, I’m sure Jocelyn was such a welcomed and comforting sight. Only for her to betray Michonne like this. It’s horrible. 😣 

Michonne starts to get really upset with herself for letting her guard down but Daryl reminds her this isn’t on her, not even a little. 100% True. 

But it’s hard for Michonne to fully accept that cuz she still feels like she should’ve known and should’ve sensed something. This is probably so hard on her too, cuz Michonne is so often alert and aware. 

She picks up on things even before anyone else sees it, like when she was the first to sense the Governor wasn’t all he’s cracked up to be. So she feels upset with herself for not seeing through Jocelyn when she usually has such a knack for sensing something. 

But again, it makes sense considering the extremely vulnerable spot she was in at the time. 

Daryl is helpful in telling Michonne she didn’t sense something cuz she’s not like Jocelyn. There are people out there that, “got so much evil in their heart and they hide it. Like they’re wearing a mask or something.” (Foreshadowing👌)🏽

I’m glad that Daryl is here for Michonne right now, so that she doesn’t have to wrestle with this alone. I appreciate that he’s so certain that they’ll find the kids and make Jocelyn pay for what she’s done. Michonne needed someone here to lean on and not let her beat herself up. 

And while, I have my qualms with Daryl and his many reckless actions, he is the kind of guy you want to call on for stuff like this. Especially when you need to make someone pay. 

There are so few people Daryl shows his more human side to and Michonne is definitely one of them which is nice. And a lot of times this show tends to overly cater to Daryl and his emotions, so it was a refreshing change to see Daryl be there to comfort Michonne in her emotion. 

This scene was touching, especially cuz Danai has a very similar skill to Andy in that they both can make a scene feel so real and unfiltered that you almost feel like you’re invading their privacy cuz it’s so personal and genuine. 

Like when Michonne was talking to Daryl it was so raw and real I was just like dang this is just a conversation between the two of them and I’m intruding lol. But I love it cuz it means they’re able to paint such a vivid reality.

And it’s sweet seeing the two of them connect on a deeper level. The apocalypse led them to a better friend than even the old world did.

And then because Michonne is a true Get Things Done Grimes, she’s done taking breaks and gets up and says, “We should keep moving.” 

They find this one location and Michonne follows a kid inside where there are more of Jocelyn’s crazy kids waiting. It’s sweet that Michonne says, “Where are my kids?” cuz she’s being a mom to all of the Alexandria kids today. And she’s being a mom to all of them cuz she has to, cuz as for those other Alexandria parents...

Daryl and Michonne held it down after Rick left (and held it down on behalf of those absent Alexandria parents who have a fully pregnant woman out here saving their kids, ijs). Daryl and Michonne did their thing both within the show context, but also their characters and actors really did some great performances post-Rick. 

And I’m glad that, in this moment on the swings, Daryl was a shoulder to lean on for Michonne. 

gifs source: @michonnegrimes @hughxjackman

[ultimatebethylficlist]

Veteran Author of The Month: June 2021

The featured veteran author for June is also a co-admin right here at UBFL: SquishyCool (or @im-immortal )!

SquishyCool can be found on AO3 and FFN under the same penname.

When asked what got her into Bethyl and what the fandom means to her, she said:

I’ve been a hardcore TWD fan since the show began airing, but that’s because of my love for zombies. In all honesty, I didn’t really ship anyone for the first 3-4 seasons. I kind of shipped Daryl with Carol, but then it became clear that it was a platonic relationship and in all honesty, I just wanted to see them both get some action lmao. Then the prison fell... and in those first moments of “Still,” when we see Beth and Daryl running and running and finally collapsing on the ground, breathless and exhausted... the butterflies started. Something clicked and I immediately thought, “uh oh.” The rest is history, especially considering how “Still” and “Alone” played out. I can’t explain how or why I’m still so heavily invested, especially considering my last 2 fandoms only kept my attention for about 2-3 years each, but here I am. And I love it! I am so incredibly grateful for the Bethyl fandom because not only has it helped me improve my writing so much more than I ever could have imagined, but it has also introduced me to some of the most amazing people, including someone who I now consider one of my very best friends! It’s my happy place :)

For her personal fic rec list, she recommends:

In The Maw by ronsparkyspeirs

Way Down We Go by LeathernLaces

Surfacing by lindentree

Wild Things (The Moonshine Poet) by Abelina

The Gift by Feliz

The Man Who Can't Be Moved by burningupasun

New Experiences Series by wallflow3r

Whisper Softly to Me by taylorcatherine

Interstice by leftmywingshome

To Love Like a Man by Seraphique

Death, Death (i defy thee) by alamorn

In My Blood by Courtneyshortney82

Let the Good Times Roll by gutsforgarters

Resolved by Allatariel

the weight of these wings by peachthorns

all my spaces are filled with you by annabeth_writes

A Little Jailbreak with the Little Jailbait by wandering_gypsy_feet

between the beginning and the end by sheriffandsteel

SquishyCool’s Works & Personal Thoughts:

Dirty Fingernails and Dried Blood Summary: What happened during the months between "Still" and "Alone"? Beth uses the last pages of her diary to write down every detail of surviving with Daryl. Thoughts: My first Bethyl fanfic. It holds a special place in my heart for that reason, though it is pretty rough. If I could go back, I never would’ve done it entirely in first-person. But I do plan to finish it one day. There are some scenes I’m particularly proud of, and I still have a long note full of ideas and plot points.

Most Wanted Summary: After Beth’s mother and half-brother are murdered in a drug war, the godly veil on the Greene Family operation is lifted, and law enforcement comes down hard. In an effort to protect her family, Beth commits a heinous crime that could mean life in prison alongside them. Now everyone she’s ever trusted is in police custody and her only chance at freedom is to get as far away from Atlanta as she can... Thoughts: Well, this is a must-read if you like my writing. I hope to one day convert this into an original fiction and maybe get it published, but I need to finish it first LOL. I got the idea from ONE scene of “Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt,” and from there, it exploded into a huge mystery thriller (with lots of romance and smut). I’m really really proud of it, and I’m scared I’ll fuck it up tbh, so I keep putting off continuing it. But I really need to get back to it because I really want people to see what I have planned! (Also, this fic is the reason @courtneyshortney82​ started talking to me, so that alone is pretty historic lmao)

The Crow’s Song Summary: Beth and Daryl spend a few more days together in the funeral home and come to terms with all they've lost along the way. But soon, they must decide what comes next. Thoughts: This fic... this fucking fic. It took me a full year to write. I made numerous edits. I even got a little depressed while I was writing the last two chapters, and my bf didn’t know why until he read what I’d been writing lol. It’s honestly the Bethyl fic I’ve always wanted to write but just didn’t know how. I’m still really really proud of how it turned out.

Carnival Games Summary: Daryl is a traveling carnival worker and Beth is a barely legal farmer's daughter looking for a night of fun when the carnival comes to town. Thoughts: Omg this fic is so fun!! One of my first Bethyl fics, and one of my first Bethyl smut fics. Short, sweet, a little funny, and a lot hot. I am still impressed with myself on this one, especially considering how much my writing has improved since lol

Breathe. Please. Summary: Beth shows up at the Hilltop. Alive. Daryl can hardly believe his eyes. Until she's lying in his bed, an arm's reach away. And he can hear her inhaling... exhaling... inhaling... Thoughts: Another “fix-it” that I’m proud of. Tbh I didn’t think it was anything all that special, but a lot of readers have said it’s one of their favorites, and some say they reread it regularly, and nothing makes me happier than hearing that, so I am extremely proud.

picking @ scabs Summary: Sometimes, no matter how much you love someone, being with them just isn't right. But what wouldn't you give for it to be right? Can someone like Daryl learn how to swallow his pride and stop repeating the same mistakes over and over? Can someone like Beth learn to fight off her demons and allow him to get close enough to hurt her again? How can they stay away from each other when it's all too easy to fall back into one another? Picking a scab will leave a scar, but they both have so many scars already... what's a few more? Thoughts: This fic is very, very personal for me. It’s like my “therapy” fic. I have poured some of my deepest feelings and struggles into its chapters, and the whole idea that got me to start it was that I wanted to find a way to navigate and cope with ending my 3-year long relationship with my emotionally/mentally/sometimes physically abusive ex. I still have a lot of fond memories from that relationship, but even more so, I have painful memories. Not to mention, going through your early 20s as a woman in the modern day is a fuckin’ trip, so this kind of explores that. It’s really self-indulgent, I think, but I’m really proud of the smut in it. And more than that, I’m proud of the response. I’ve had a few people message me or comment to say that they’ve felt all those things, or have experienced similar things, and it’s really just... relieving. I put my heart and soul out there, and what I got back was “you’re not alone.” So yeah, this fic is special. I wanna finish it soon, but I have to be in A Mood to do so. 

In Toto Corde Summary: Despite a million reasons not to, Beth and Daryl fell in love. Then he made the ultimate sacrifice in order to keep all of his promises. Now, facing unimaginable consequences at the hands of witch hunters, Beth has no choice but to use her powers to bring Daryl back from the dead. "He won't be the same..." Thoughts: I LOVE THIS FIC. I love it so much that I had to rewrite it after like 4 or 5 years. And I already started on a sequel that I really hope I’m able to finish. Though it doesn’t have many hits, and I don’t think many people have read it at all, which I understand since it basically is entirely focused around Daryl being killed. But damn, I’m proud of this one, and it was really fucking fun to write because witch!Beth is just... the best.

risk it all (part 1 of in for a penny, in for a pound) Summary: Daryl Dixon has a pretty decent life, all things considered. He's got his own place. A good dog. A few friends. Even a girlfriend. He keeps himself out of trouble. Until he starts texting Beth Greene. And hell, if he ain't about to risk it all for this damn girl. Thoughts: This was supposed to be one short multichapter fic focused entirely on smut and social media. Then I got on a roll and it ended up being the beginning of a series! This fic is purely fun. Nothing too serious or heavy. I write it when I’m in a Good Mood because it’s my little happy place. I have plans for about 4 more fics before the series will be finished!

Don’t Make Me Haunt You Summary: So here's the thing: Merle Dixon is dead as fuck. And as it turns out, Beth Greene is the only one who can see or hear him. Which is weird considering she's never met or even heard of this guy, let alone anyone with the last name Dixon. That's her first problem... Thoughts: The reception to this fic has absolutely blown me away. I had no idea anyone would want to read about ghost!Merle haunting Beth and forcing her to solve his murder with the help of his grumpy brother. And it was all inspired by an episode of South Park lmao then I started really getting into it and now it’s just like, my super fun fic where I explore a range of emotions and all kinds of religious beliefs and different mythologies and I can build the world however I want and goddamn I just love writing this fic. Plus there’s a podfic for it! I can’t even begin to explain how much I love this fic and how proud I am of it :)

[twdmusicboxmystery]

FTWD 6x08: First Analysis

Okay, let’s talk about this episode. 1) It SUCKED. 2) It also SUCKED. Anyone want to take a stab at what I’ll list for #3?

Why? Character death.

I’ll put all spoilers beneath the READ MORE. If this makes you at all worried about Beth’s return, read what I’ve written below. It will make you feel better.

***As always, spoilers abound for 6x08 below. Don’t read until you’ve watched!***

Okay, so I’m sure you already figured this out, but John is probably my favorite character currently on FEAR, so I’m super-bummed that they decided to kill him off. And I totally didn’t see it coming. The screeners talked about something big happening in Fear, but I didn’t think it would be this. Yeah. SUCKS.

But let’s discuss, shall we?

Because there was and still is a lot of Beth symbolism around John, I know that’s going to unsettle people. I don’t want this to come across as me being worried in any way, but I’ve already gotten quite a few Asks and messages, so clearly others in the fandom are worried that because John dies here, it might mean Beth really did die, too.

Let me assure you, there’s nothing further from the truth. 

I’d like you to keep the following 6 points:

1.       It’s all about the attitude of the character in that moment. (A.k.a. the symbolism can change.)

2.       His death will spur on the current storyline and affect other characters.

3.       There is plenty of precedent for killing off true love couples. Unfortunately.

4.       This was a replay of Grady.

5.       John does not = Beth in this season. Morgan does.

6.       Major clarity on the Door symbol, and that’s freaking huge!

It’s all about the character’s attitude in the moment.

This is something I’ve addressed before when looking at the dialogue various characters have before their deaths. In most cases, they accept their deaths or become negative in some way. And that’s not to say that they all want to die or try to commit suicide. For example, Dale. He didn’t want to die and he wasn’t suicidal. But before his death, he said he no longer wanted to live in a world where they killed Randal. That’s basically, through symbolic dialogue, announcing his own death.

Another good example is Glenn. There was tons of Beth symbolism and even a lot of her dialogue around Glenn in S6, just before his death fake out. Now, clearly he didn’t want to die in 7x01, and he didn’t really say anything to that effect. But the point is, the hopeful, Beth symbols around him wasn’t present in 6x16/7x01 as it was in 6x03. So, the symbolism around a character can change if their attitude has changed and their heading toward their own death.

Do you see what I mean? While there has been lots of Beth symbolism around John and June in the past, in this episode and even a few previous to this, he became very hopeless and dark. You could say he parallels to S2 Beth who also tried to commit suicide. Not to S4/S5 Beth who was hopeful and determined to live.

Throughout the episode, Morgan gives John tons of chances to change his mind, and he refuses.

One more example and I’ll move on. Heath and Tara.

I’ll admit this symbolism is a little confusing, and I had to think through it several times to square it in my head. In 7x06, Tara fell off a bridge into a river, and washed up in a new community. She lived. Here, John falls off a bridge into a river and washes up in front of his own cabin. But he dies.

We’ve always attributed the Tara symbolism to Beth, yet John died here. But Tara DID live, so which is it?

Again, it just depends on the attitude. Before Tara went off the bridge, we saw her being positive and hopeful, while Heath was being super negative and hopeless. Tara lived. She found herself in captivity, but eventually escaped and made it home. Heath didn’t die in that case, but disappeared into the CRM. The point is, something bad happened to him because he was being negative and hopeless. And to this day, he’s never made it home. See what I mean? So, it’s all about where the character’s head is at. Unfortunately, John had given up.

And the other confusing thing is that he seems to get his hope back right at the end. The last thing we see him say is “It’s not too late.” But I think the idea is that it’s just too little too late at that point. If you follow the sequence of events back, it’s clear that if he hadn’t gone back to the cabin and tried to kill himself, he wouldn’t have been on that bridge and Lizzie—I mean Dakota—wouldn’t have killed him. So his death was the result of his own actions.

His death will spur on the current storyline and affect other characters.

This is something the showrunners really emphasize on TTD. And I won’t say I’m a fan of it, but we do have a precedent for it in the show. Glenn’s death kicked off AOW. Jesus’s death happened at the start of the Whisper War. The death of the pike victims spurred Carol to let Negan out to kill Alpha. So, while I wish they’d used someone other than John for this (cuz I heart him), this is something we’ve seen in other story lines before.

Will it happen with Beth? Well, I don’t think Beth will die at the beginning of the CRM war, if that’s what anyone is thinking. But I think someone will. I’ll talk more about this below, but for now, know that there probably will be a sacrifice of some kind. I actually kind of wonder if it will be Eugene. Only because of the Sampson template. I’ve said before that I think, like Sampson, he might do something to save TF, kill their enemies, and give them a fighting chance. But that remains to be seen, of course.

There’s even a line in this episode where John says, “this river has a way of bringing people back to life.” Clearly, that doesn’t apply to him. But I think it applies to the rest of his group who will “come alive” and finally fight off Virginia’s evil yoke.

There is plenty of precedent for killing off true love couples. Unfortunately.

Another reason I know this makes people nervous is because this is a true love couple with major symbolic ties to Bethyl. I get it. But actually, we’ve seen similar things with lots of other Bethyl proxy couples.

The one that first comes to mind is Sasha and Abraham. They had TONS of Bethyl parallels. They did get together and get some time together, though not much. Then Abe was killed off, and Sasha followed him a season later.

There’s also David and Betsy from S6. Admittedly, there were SUPER minor characters, but still.

The other big one is Glaggie. I’m not saying there were tons of Bethyl parallels there, except in the fact that they’re both soulmate couples and both have death fake outs. But the point is, TWD hasn’t exactly shied away from killing off soulmate couples.

So what does that mean for Beth and Daryl?

I’m really not trying to scare or depress anyone. I’m not saying they’re going to kill off either Beth or Daryl after she returns. My point is that pointing at John and June as a soulmate couple and trying to extend this death to Beth and Daryl doesn’t really work. This is just another beloved character fatality, and TWD has given us a LOT of those.

So might they kill Beth or Daryl down the line? I mean, anything’s possible, but I really doubt it. I’ve said this before, but they wouldn’t do all this epic foreshadowing just to pull a Morales, or make them “just another” tragic couple.

Plus, it’s Daryl. His romance was always meant to be epic and I really think they’ll both be standing at the end of the series (including the spinoff) whenever that is. So, it’s not something I worry about.

This was a replay of Grady.

I’ll go into this more tomorrow in my Details post, but there are specific things here that make it clear to me that this is something of a replay of Grady. For today, just look at it this way: we have someone falling off a bridge (Daryl and Carol did so in 5x06) and someone being shot (John and Beth). Walkers are also involved in a big way. The difference is that John dies while we think Beth lived. And we can be confident in that because, as I explained above, her attitude was exactly the opposite of John’s.

John does not = Beth in this season. Morgan does.

Keep in mind that, as I said above, John because S2 Beth here. He sort of retrogressed into hopelessness, and that’s why he died.

If anyone is a Beth proxy in this season of Fear, it’s Morgan. He’s sort of “come back from the dead,” reinvented himself, is searching for his lost love (Grace) who happens to be pregnant (child/baby symbolism) and in this episode, John even calls him a ghost.

I’m just saying.

Major clarity on the Door symbol, and that’s freaking huge!

Okay, this is the big one for me, and about the only real silver lining of this episode. This is something we’ve been stumped over for a LONG time. Specifically, since they were filming S5.

Review: while filming the lost ‘white cabin’ scenes we know Emily was in for S5, and which we still haven’t seen yet, Steven Yeun posted this.

It’s a picture from inside that white cabin, and he captioned it with, “Open the door!” but then deleted it. We never understood exactly what that meant. I think most people assumed it was a tease about what might be or what might have happened in that cabin.

But this episode with John is called “The Door.”

They have this whole theme in the episode about how John wants to close himself in his cabin and commit suicide. So, closing the door = death. Opening the door = life. 

My fellow theorists and I have been talking a lot about the cabin symbol as a tomb, since 10x18. We think Leah’s entire cabin represents a tomb. Which not only shows that she might be dead/a hallucination, but it represents Daryl being emotionally dead. Closing himself off to the living and indulging things that aren’t even real.

We’ve seen other examples of this theme as well. In S4, Carol and Ty tried to stay in the little cabin, rather than moving forward to find the others, and it resulted in death (Lizzie killing Mica).

Also in S4, Sasha tried to stop rather than pushing forward. It probably would have resulted in her death. Thankfully, she came around, and that led to her not only living, but reuniting with Tyreese.

@wdway also pointed out that we just recently saw Lucille this. She entombed herself in the basement, shutting the door and leaving a note. And while she was dying of cancer anyway, she didn’t wait for cancer to kill her. She took her own life. So she entombed herself and chose death.

John wanted to do the same thing in this episode. He didn’t get a chance to, but as I discussed above, that’s why he died.

But do you see why this is so significant. Steven posting the cabin with the “open the door!” caption is his way of showing that something about the cabin in how Beth lived.

Opening the door = life.

So while I kind of hated this episode and am super bummed about John, it does shed some light on a lot of the symbolism.

Tomorrow, I’ll talk more about the episode details.

Thoughts?

[storytime-hoe]

Tough Love Ch.11

Pairing: Daryl Dixon x O/C

Summary: Story picks up during season three as the group goes into Woodbury to rescue Glenn and Maggie from the Governor. However, they pick up another prisoner of Woodbury, Emma (O/C). She is a thief who fears friendships after her hard losses. She stays on the move, studying communities from afar and then robbing them blind. She has stayed alive this way for a while until the Governor catches her in the act. Now she finds herself with the group from the prison in a mission to kill the Governor for what he has done to her. She plans on stealing supplies from the prison group after the Governor is killed, but she might be growing a little too close to the groups members, especially one man in particular: Daryl Dixon.

Warnings: Slow burn, language, usual twd violence, mentions of abuse/rape

Authors Note: Hope you all enjoy this one! It’s a sad one I would say and we get some background info about Emma’s past. I kinda just made that part up without putting any forethought into it so it might be a little rough.

Previously: Ch.1         Ch.2       Ch.3       Ch.4     Ch.5      Ch.6     Ch.7       Ch.8       Ch.9       Ch.10

It took me a few more weeks to recover from the bullet wound. I hated sitting around in my room, unable to go out on runs with the others. There were a lot of mouths to feed and I wished I could do something to help out. I had been a scavenger and looter from the beginning, so I obviously couldn't hunt down or track anything to eat like Daryl could. I really felt useless.

And that wasn't good for me because every day that went by that I wasn't able to be of any help, the more my thoughts started to become poisoned. I couldn't help but feel like a burden all the time like every other fucker here who had everything brought to them on a silver platter. It wasn't good for me or my mindset and eventually I slumped into a depression.

I used to have these periods of depression all the fucking time before the turn of everything. I lived in a shit trailer park with my mom and little brother. I would feel the crushing responsibilities of taking care of them both, even though that should not have been my fucking job, and I knew I would never surmount to anything more than a doublewide. I would end up just like my damn mother, and I couldn't stand her most of the time.

Don't get me wrong, I loved her, but fuck was she hard to love. She never held down a job, so my waitressing gig was all that brought in money for us. We kept our bellies full, which is all that we could ask for, but when we did have a little extra money for luxuries, Mom would blow it all on booze or gamble it all away.

As much as I hated her for her lifestyle, I saw myself becoming the exact thing. I already had my interest perked with gambling, but unlike her I still had some self control. Waisting money wasn't all on her either. I had to have a few smokes back then. Now those were what really got me through the dark times, that is before it became acceptable to chop down rotting humans, which is what I really needed to do if I was to get out of this slump.

When the day came that I could lightly run on my leg good enough, I made the decision to go out on my own. I took a gun and a backpack and marched myself straight towards the gates without anyone saying anything to me. That was to good thing about looking like a pissed off bitch all the time, people steered clear of you and never questioned your actions.

I thought I was going to get out free of curious minds until I heard the pesky little boy shuffle up behind me.

"Where are you going?"

I stopped in my tracks with a deep sigh. "I thought you might be happy to see me leave, Carl?"

The boy wasn't looking at me when I turned towards him, he kept his eyes trained on the gun at my hip. Rick had confiscated gun rights after he heard that Carl had shot an innocent boy in the fight against the Governor. There was some dark shit going on in his head, that was for sure.

"Well, don't get your hopes up too high. I'm coming back."

His lips pressed into a thin line. "Good."

My eyebrows raised in surprise. "Good? You want me around now?"

His expression was hard as he looked at me with a drawn brow. "Are you sure going out alone is a good idea? Daryl said we aren't sup–"

"I know what he told everyone," I interrupted with more anger in my voice than I'm proud of, but when it came to Daryl making rules for me I couldn't help it. "Listen, kid. Can you just keep quiet about this?"

"How long will you be gone?" He peered up from under his hat, interrogating me like the mini sheriff he was. There was no mistaking the worry in his words, however. I guess I really had grown on the little guy if he was actually worried about me.

I gave him a lopsided smile and said, "I'll be back before sun down. Don't worry about me. I'll be fine. I always am."

"I just think taking someone with you might be a good idea." He motioned back to the prison. "Michonne usually goes out around this time. Can't you just wait for her?"

I shrugged it off. I could've waited around, but I needed to be out on my own again. It was strange how I had sworn to be by myself for the rest of my life and then I was suddenly part of this group that was seeming to grow every minute. More and more people were brought in through the gates and it was becoming overwhelming, especially since I had not been able to escape. It was also exhausting trying to make everyone feel comfortable around me all the time. I tried being nice and smiling and to not be annoyed, but the more I tried the worse this stupor I was in got. For just this day I wanted to go out on my own and scream and hack down the dead and just feel what I wanted to. Not to mention how fucked up I was about what Beth had told me about Daryl liking me. I wanted my mind to shut the fuck up for a day, and the only way to do that was to be alone with a knife and some Walkers.

"How about I just meet up with Michonne once she heads out? I won't go far until she joins me."

He looked skeptical. This damn kid was always seeing through me.

"I promise," I lied, giving him a not so gently pat on the cheek, making a light smacking sound as I did.

Without another word I walked out of the gates of safety, ignoring the pang of guilt I felt about straight up lying to a child. Poor thing didn't deserve to worry over me so much.

I swallowed hard as I practically ran into the tree line, going much much farther out than I had intended. I really had wanted to stay rather close incase something did happen to me, it was my first day out after all, but being the mindless creature that I was I couldn't control the sense of freedom that swept me up and carried me through the trees.

I felt alive, like nothing could touch me now. I was an invincible motherfucker out here once again. An invincible motherfucker who was slightly lost.

It took me well past nightfall to see the lights of the prison shinning through the trees once again. I expected to walk back in unnoticed. To go straight to the newly fixed shower house and wash away the sweat and grime that I had accumulated. I expected no one to really notice or really care that I had been out passed when I claimed I'd return. But boy was I fucking wrong.

Whoever was keeping watch in the tower must have alerted everyone that I was approaching because inside the gates I was greeted by an angry looking Rick with Carl marching up behind him.

"You ratted me out," I accused the kid instantly.

"Carl did the right thing," Rick began, his voice reminding me of the tone my school principal would use when I got in trouble. Wow, what a throw back.

Just like back in school, I rushed to explain myself and make up a few excuses along the way. Talking myself out of trouble was a gift of mine. I had done in the previous world and in the current one on multiple occasions. I remember getting caught red handed looting some camps, but with a few well placed tears and a convincing story, people will let you get away with anything.

"I said I'd be back aft–"

"You also said you'd meet up with Michonne," Carl interrupted me before I could even get started.

Rick looked back at Carl and pointed at the prison door. "Why don't you go inside. Keep Judith company."

He wasn't too pleased that he was about to miss my scolding, but I was sure as hell happy he wouldn't have the honor. How embarrassing was this? An adult woman who was about to have a her ass beat because she went for a stroll. Pathetic.

"We were worried sick," he began after Carl had gone. "People were out looking for you."

I shook my head. "They shouldn't have been. Don't risk other lives for me. I didn't mean to scare everyone, but I needed to take a day by myself. This whole 'living in a community thing' is new to me."

"You're one of us now. We get concerned where the safety of one of our own is involved. Whether it be you or any of the others, going out alone isn't an option, especially if you just recently recovered from a serious injury. There are plenty of people who, I think, would be willing to join you anytime you wanted to go out."

I wanted to roll my eyes, but I reframed. This was a load of horse shit. "I don't need any permission to go where I want to. Hell, I could walk out forever right now if I wanted."

"That's true," his tone was much calmer, but the disappointment in his eyes ate away at me. "But it'd hurt an awful lot of people to see you go."

His eyes bore into me, making the guilt wash over me just before he turned to walk back inside. I had always been so petrified of losing people over and over again, that I had never thought about how they would feel if I was the one to disappeared. Beth had become a close friend, she would be heartbroken, I'm sure. More than she was when her boyfriend died that one time on a run. She hadn't been blinked an eye when she heard the news, but she was just unfazed by shit like that now. I saw the real sadness in her eyes when she would tell me about people from the past, it weighed her down like it did any other person. Carol too. I would chat with her some nights. She had all sorts of people that were taken away from her, we all did, and when she talked about someone like her dead daughter, the hurt was as strong as if it had just happened that day.

That's the thing about loosing people. The pain never really goes away. It chips away at a piece of your heart and that piece never fucking comes back, it's just gone.

I had been one selfish bitch to risk putting that hurt into anyone. God, Daryl would lose his fucking mind if I never came back. Or I assumed he would after how he had worried about my leg healing. He was really keen on being my protector after what we had gone through together, probably because he felt bad for me. Either way he no doubt was worried shitless when I was out alone. I cursed myself for doing that to him. Sure, he drove me crazy sometimes, but I never wanted to hurt him like that.

The cool wind blew hard against me and I went to take my first step towards the door to find Daryl. I owed him an apology, it was the least I could do. But before I got anywhere the door slammed open and out came one wound up Dixon.

I hadn't seen him in days, but he wore the same look that said "I'm going to fucking kill you". Why had I missed that look?

"The hell were ya thinkin'?"

Coming at me like that was not the best move. My defensive walls were up in a second and I was in his face yelling in a heartbeat.

"I was thinking I needed a minute alone. Sorry it got your panties all in a twist to see me enjoying myself instead of wallowing in a cell all fucking day."

"I would've gone with ya," he started, his eyes flashing with a hurt that I instantly wished I could fix. Why the fuck couldn't I calm down and explain everything to him like a normal person. I needed to tell him how depressing the prison was getting and that I know he wanted what was best for my by making me rest for weeks but that didn't stop the fact that I was losing my damn mind. But of course I wasn't that type of normal person.

"I don't think you understand what alone means." I wanted to keep the fire in my voice, but it was flittering away at a rapid pace. I felt like shit and he was making me feel worse about what I had done by the second. I cowered under his harsh stare slightly, my arms crossed over my chest in a lame attempt to make me look bolder.

"I don' think ya understand that ya coulda been fuckin' killed." He was still yelling at top velocity despite me backing down, his voice a graveling husk. I think he expected a heated argument from me like always, but I was in the wrong on this and I knew it. I know when to admit that at least.

"I'm sorry." He wasn't expecting a genuine apology, so he was taken aback by it. It took everything in me to swallow down my pride and continue. "I didn't think it would bother everyone like this. I didn't realize you all cared so much."

His throat bobbed with a swallow. I wished to fucking God that I could read what was going on in his head, but he hid it all so well. "Yeah," he huffed out, nodding his head slightly. "Our fucking mistake."

There it was, another piece of my heart breaking away.

I really fucked up this time. I wanted to make it better. I wanted to scream at him that I was fine and I wouldn't do it again and that I cared about him more than I was even comfortable with. I wanted to get over myself and wrap my arms around him like I had so many nights ago during my panic attack.

I didn't want to loose a friend like Daryl Dixon. I never wanted to hurt people like that. I didn't realize I had the power to hurt anyone anymore until Rick had told me so. I only wished I had realized it sooner.

I didn't want this hurt that pounded in my chest, not only from my own broken piece, but because I had been the cause of a piece of Daryl’s heart cracking away too.

Except maybe this time I could put the pieces back together somehow. 

I doubt it.

***

Taglist:

@daryldixonandfrogs @jodiereedus22 @xchrisxevansx

[pastelbatfandoms]

Pick 14 OC’s

1. Roxy (WWE) 2. Michelle (Riverdale) 3. Renee (The Flash) 4. Rika (NOES) 5. Carrie (Gotham) 6. Helena (AHS) 7. Rihannon (HP)

8. Amara (Marvel) 9. Meghana (Descendants) 10. Esme (Descendants) 11. Marianna (TW) 12. Suzanna (TWD) 13. Mandy (ST) 14. Ashlee (AVTED)

1. Would you rather date 5 or 12?

Suzanna. I feel like Carrie might kill me if I pissed her off....

2. A man wearing a thong and boxers on his head comes up to 8 and demands their money. Their reaction? Amara would taken aback and just look at the guy weird. “Earth has some strange customs.” She mutters as she hands him some Asgardian coins.

3. 6 comes home and finds that 2 has broken into their house and is stealing their possessions. What happens? Ah hell...literally. Michelle,I’d run. 

4. Would 13 ever have sex with 9? lol their is no way they’d meet,but if they did I mean Meghana is a Demi God so probably. 

5. What would 5 and 10’s lovechild look like?  Well She or he would definitely have dark hair,and striking Romanesque features with bright eyes. In a word,stunning. 

6. What would 7 never ever admit to the world?  Other then not telling Muggles she’s a witch...I’m not sure.

7. Do you think that 1 is sexy/cute? um yes lol

8. Is 9 or 14 more likely to commit murder? Ashlee,I mean she kills Deadites all the time. 

9. What is the last thing that 14 would ever wear? Anything too frilly and princess like. 

10. Why would 13 hate 7? I have no idea...maybe jealous of her because one she knows magic and also she can have the men in her life at the same time!

11. Is 4 a virgin? No

12. What would 2 get 3 for their birthday? Michelle would probably get her a gift card to a Restaurant or a jewelry store. 

13. Does 9 go to church? No,doesn’t exist in Auradon. 

14. 12 and 1 go scuba diving. What happened? Skipping,because I have no idea. 

15. Would 6 survive a zombie apocalypse?

Dang wish this question had been for 12...but Helena would be fine,chances are her Husband made The Apocalypse so....

16. Who’s taller, 4 or 14?

I think Rika.

17. 5 and 8 get in a fight. Who surrenders first?

The Carrion Crow vs The Valkyrie...That would be some battle! I can only seeing Carrie surrendering first because Amara has powers. 

18. Does 13 trust 3 enough to drive with them during a heavy rainstorm in heavy traffic? yeah sure,just don’t let Mandy drive. 

19. Could 8 ever win a swimsuit competition? YES

20. What scares 7 more than anything? Losing her loved one’s,especially to He who shall not named...

21. How long could you stand to be around 10? A good while,she’d be fun. 

22. Your old high school enemy comes up to you on the street and punches you in the face. What would 13 do? Mandy would beat the crap out her. 

23. What would 2 say/do when extremely drunk? I’m just going to put this gif here...Remember Michelle starts off with Jughead...

24. Would 1 ever crossdress? like wear a suit? Sure I guess.

25. 1, 8, and 14 are playing tug-of-war against 7, 9, and 12. Which side would win? Roxy,Amara,Ashlee VS Rihannon,Meghana and Suzanna. 

If Amara couldn’t use her powers I’d say Meghana would win for her team because she is the daughter of Hercules. 

26. 11 and 3 are arguing. Who resorts to violence first? Marianna she is a Wolf...Good luck Renee. 

27. Does 9 or 4 have a worse temper? Meghana,She got pretty pissed after Hades broke up with her. 

28. Who would you least want to meet in a dark alley, 14, 11, or 6? Helena,Definitely... 

29. If 10 got drafted for the army, would they go for it or dodge the draft? She’d dodge it like a thief in the night ^_~

30. What is 13’s worst memory?

Billy’s death.

31. Why would the government be after 3? Because of her connection to Reverse Flash. 

32. You run into 2 on a busy street? What is the first thing you notice about them?

Her Gothic attire

33. Would 11 ever get cosmetic surgery?

No

34. Does 5 love or hate themselves?

She does to an extent,but I feel like she regrets some of her past actions and who she associated with/dated. 

35. 13 gets hit on by someone of their own gender? Their reaction?

Ok,I mean she’d be flattered but she doesn’t really swing that way. That I know of....

36. What is 14’s worst habit or addiction?

This might change,since I haven’t written her into a story yet. But I think Ashlee has a tendency to think she can go it alone,she’s very stubborn and doesn’t forgive easily either. 

37. What kind of movie would 11 go see? An Action movie

38. Does 10 still live with their parents? Technically Esme lives at a boarding school,so no. 

39. Does 6 dance?

Yes,usually to entice Michael or to entice someone to their side. Helena is also very good at swing dancing as well. 

40. 3, 5, 12, and 14 are playing poker. Who is the most likely to cheat?

Carrie.

41. What would be the main thing standing between 1 and 10’s love?

the fact that there in 2 Different stories, Michelle is with Juggie and Esme is with Charming. Michelle would remind Esme too much of what she was trying to escape from the isle. 

42. Is 2 or 4 more mature?

Rika,she is older. 

43. Does 1 or 8 have a bigger ego?

Amara,though Roxy does know a thing or two about ego’s,dating wrestlers...

44. Would 12 rather drive a small, environmentally friendly car, or a huge Hummer with bad gas mileage? A hummer,because at that point it wouldn’t matter. A vehicle is a Vehicle in The Apocalypse,though she’d prefer a Motorcycle.

45. Does 6 care about their appearance? Yes,she’s spent years not being able to see it as a Ghost,so now she can be quite fussy at times. But given who she’s dated in the past that’s not surprising....

46. 5, 7, and 14 go into a haunted house. What happens?

Carrie wouldn’t be phased she’s seen worse,so has Ashlee but she hopes there’s no ACTUAL evil dead here,which would be what Rhiannon would try and find out. 

47. 13 is walking along and gets pulled aside by a prostitute. Do they accept the offer? omg what is with these questions...poor Mandy lol honestly living where they do she’d probably be used to it,she’d just brush her off and walk away. She has Billy,she doesn’t need to PAY for it. 

48. Does 10 have or want kids? No she’s too young,though I’m sure Chad will want an Heir at some point. 

49. How will 13 probably die?

omg! Easy answer probably by a Demogorgon!

50. Why was 6 picked on at school?

Helena was actually...because she was different then the other kids,an orphan Witch,no one dared pick on her after she met Dandy though. 

51. For what would 11 worship 4?

Marianna would look up to Rika because she’s “fought” a dream demon and survived,even though she’s only human. 

52. 3 and 14 are running against each other for president. Who do you vote for?

Probably Renee she seems a bit more level headed then Ashlee but then Eobard might become Vice president...I suppose it’s better then Ash! lol

53. 1, 8, 12, and 14 gang up on 5. How long does 5 last?

Quite awhile and this must be when Carrie is bad again,otherwise Amara would have no reason to fight her. 

54. Who would 11 rather take to the prom, 2 or 9?

Mari would take Shelle to the prom,she’s a bit more low key.

55. Would 7 ever wear a leopard-print miniskirt in public?

Maybe

56. Who has a more normal weight, 4 or 10?

I have no idea,I suppose Esme.

57. Why would 13 be arrested?

For Beating up someone or stealing or underage drinking/smoking.

58. 3, 6, and 11 go to the movies. What happens?

Renee would be watching it,Helena would be bored and Mari would try to enjoy it but would get irritated at the group of people talking to loud and kicking her seat,that she’d promptly get up and tell them off. 

59. 13 is trying to escape from a burning building, but sees 1 trapped in the corner. Would they try and save 1?

Yes bad girl or not she’s still not going to leave someone to die.

60. 14 and 8 are exploring an abandoned tomb, when 14 suddenly falls through the floor and barely manages to avoid the spike traps. How would 8 save them?

With her powers,she’s levitate Ashlee back up. 

61. Would 2 rather marry 6 or 14?

Probably Ashlee.

62. Does 10 smoke or drink?

:: Nope.

63. The house is about to explode, and 9 can only save 3 or 12. Who do they choose?

Suzanna...Hopefully Renee could get herself out or Thawne could come to her rescue. 

64. Would 11 ever deal drugs?

:: No, never.

65. Did 13 graduate high school?

she’s still in school

66. 7 tries cooking a new icky looking dish and invites 4, 9, and 13 to dinner. Who eats the dish? Mandy,she don’t care. Its better then nothing,she’s not as picky as she used to be. 

67. Would 3 ever pierce their tongue?

:: No

68. What about 9 annoys 14?

That she’s a God yet she can’t fix The Deadite problem...

69. Does 1 or 5 sleep more?

Roxy

70. Who does 14 like most out of 2, 8, and 12? Who do they like the least? Suzanna,they can relate to each other more,though I feel like Suzanna would be the mother figure,Amara would be the cool big sister and Michelle would be like Ashlee’s twin or BFF.