#i would be so jughead
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i wanna go to a little american diner so bad and get a burger and milkshakes and cherry pie at a small town in the midst of a murder investigations diner
#get MILKSHAKES and BURGERS and.. ONION RINGS#sorry watching riverdale again#riverdale#i would be so jughead#if i was american#and lived near an american diner#i live near a fake one but the milkshakes are like £8?!? so no fucking way#inflation smh#that or london prices#anyways#its so small town serial killer riverdale twin peaks coded#cherry PIE#twin peaks
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Are true riverdale fans of the opinion it is a very good and nearly flawless show or does being a true riverdale fan mean being able to mock writing choices
it's long-running serial television plotted a season/half at a time so definitely not even "nearly" flawless.
BUT. i'm not doing combat with the writing team. i'm not actively reading against the text the way i have to in order to enjoy something like supernatural or the 90s robin comics or the fucking sopranos, which are patriarchal christiancore copworld rapeworld white supremacist horrorshows that hate their minority audiences, with like 2 good creatives involved and martyring themselves to fight the good fight on sparse rare installments if you try to approach them sincerely.
riverdale writing staff are like a favorite smart problematic tumblr mutual to me. I don't always like what's on their blog or who they're referencing. but we're in the same community and i'm interested and inspired and i trust their agenda overall, even when i see shit i wouldn't have fucking posted. but bc i'm not being condescended to or actively spited i'm not gonna condescend to or spite them, you know?
i expect rvd to age like twin peaks (another very uneven, highly referential serial juggling a couple of intensely cool metanarratives on top of its core story). and twin peaks fandom mocks twin peaks all the time. twin peaks includes some CLUNKY shit. it's kitsch. it's camp. it has a second season that is largely ASS. james is there. and on top of that it also includes some genuinely offputting-to-me stuff that just bothers me to sit through, even though i feel like i understand and respect what they're going for with it. i just don't want to watch someone sweep the fucking bar for minutes and minutes as entertainment. OK!!?
...so yeah. mock riverdale but in the right spirit. is that an answer? do i sound like i'm chugging the flavoraid koolaid fresh-aid? probably.
#i like the way people mock the flop parts of twin peaks and i enjoy it when people mock the flop parts of riverdale in the same tone#but rvd NOT one of those shows where the fandom is the thing that makes it good by appropriating and rearranging it. like some listed above#riverdale isn't dumb. it's not thoughtless. it's a lowbrow postmodern love letter to trash media and it takes a lot of big risky swings.#and its juggling act does NOT always work in practice. i don't always agree with the tradeoffs it takes to balance like.#the mainline text AND the queer subtext AND the fanfictiony iterative media riffs AND the genre meta AND the actual canonical metaplot#but it really does reward curiosity and close-reading. it's like a little puzzle cube you have to turn over a few times sometimes to solve#i feel judgmental about people who hit 'post' on what's obviously like a very surface level reaction without much thought put into it#ohhh the show challenged you? the show folded continuity over on itself and you can't hang anymore? you didn't get what you expected?#and now you're being dismissive instead of sitting with it? ok. dork.#riverdale#(it's not really that serious. but you asked and i'm feeling so so very earnest about Posting today. love you thanks for asking)#(would love to know what parts you most want to mock. i have my own list. eNdGaMe is at the top of it. jughead's mommy issues era too)
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Jughead Jones, famous woman-hater.
#at this point I’m just being redundant#like yes yes we all know that he’s a feminist we all know the ‘woman hater’ title is ridiculously inaccurate#I just find it amazing that it was inaccurate in the og comics#it would have been so easy for these old comics to have a character be legitimately misogynistic 24/7#especially when he keeps TELLING people that he hates women#it would have been so easy for them to actually make him act like it#but instead we get this#and that’s so wonderful and fascinating to me#it’s not something they had to fix in the reboot to make his character more palatable. he was already like this.#archie comics#jughead jones#archie andrews#betty cooper#veronica lodge#aroace jughead#sure he says a few actually misogynistic things here and there over the course of 80+ years#but that’s drowned out by a tidal wave of times he’s a good friend to the girls and supports them and defends them and etc.#in a world with very little consistency and a very long runtime: majority rules
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I think it’s such a waste to spend all that time making archie understand that he can explore a man’s body and then not have him end up dating the other man in his polycule. I mean they never say he’s not dating jughead, betty just never tells us if they fuck. They could very well fuck but that’s not her business. Maybe she didn’t want to out gay archie
#riverdale#jarchie#if they said everyone is dating except archie and jughead I would have taken it#but they didn’t#so I get to interpret that as an ambiguous gay relationship
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Riverdale (TV 2017-2023)
That 90s Show (TV 2023-present)
#riverdale#that 90s show#otp: i always felt that it would be you and me#otp: it'll be us against the world babe#jeia#barchie#het ships#jay x leia#leia x jay#betty x archie#archie x betty#my gifs#my stuff#parallels#i was going to parallel barchie with Jeia’s first kiss initially b/c cheating legends lmaoo#but barchie’s kiss here wasn’t even their first one#plus both of these had a romantic slow song and it was so clearly ~their moments~#jeia is so barchie coded to me#the only diff is that they didn’t know each other since childhood (even tho they should’ve)#and that they didn’t live next door#but like friends to lovers obviously destined but they have obstacles (nate and serena/veronica and jughead)#archie and jay would do ANYTHING for betty and leia#also both guys are depicted as 'players' or 'womanizers' or just aren’t trusted (especially by Alice and Red at first)#leia and betty are both the 'sweet nice girl next door'
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Why is "Veronica's Husband" the best version of Jughead?
Ahhh a Jeronica ask!
Because of the way they're set up, Jughead and Veronica contain within themselves the thing that will heal the other from their childhood difficulties.
Jughead has a lot of pain from being abandoned, the not-first-choice, the not-wanted, the betrayed one who has to forgive, repeatedly. He aspires to be on the inside, to be in the good life, and that keeps not working because those are things you can't just break into on your own if you weren't born there. He has guts and creativity, so he will start down the path, but to sustain the long term effort, all of us need support and cheerleading and, if you're raised with relative deprivation, you will also need guidance. Jughead, having had to fend entirely for himself, as well as keeping his devastating solitariness to himself as a secret for so long, keeps saying "I'll figure it out, I always do" and that's kind of the key to why he keeps failing. He doesn't know how to ask for or receive help, because every time he tried to get that he got even more fucked over.
Veronica has resources, both personal and material, and most importantly, she loves investing those resources in people she loves. Veronica dreams big, believes big, and wants her people to all achieve big things. She's loyal, and once she decides to commit she commits. She's also a consummate networker, a bringer-together-of-people which a very underdeveloped skill for Jughead. Veronica loves being a part of a squad or a team of two, so you know, if you want to be the Veronica Lodge's husband she would keep goosing things along so that both boats can rise together.
The thing is - now that I've gotten this far - I actually think that Tabitha does this for Jughead quite a bit, without the careerist bent. Tabitha has ambitions but they aren't of the Get Yourself Written Up In Wall Beat Journal variety. She's stable, has a very strong loving influence in her grandfather but enough difficulties with her own parents that Jughead can feel identity and says herself that she's very attracted to underdogs. So that's why Jabitha works.
But the question was The Best version of Jughead, and yeah, Veronica would've gotten him there.
#jeronica#i really love thinking about jeronica#they're so soothing to me and bittersweet because s7 said yeah they would actually work but jughead would mess it up#veronica lodge#jughead jones#riverdale ask#riverdale
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i feel like i win when i lose, chapter three
“So…when is the wedding ceremony?” Jughead asks through a mouthful of mini crab cake. “Or…do they not do vows the second time, since they already broke the first ones?”
“They did that yesterday. Courthouse.” Rising onto her tiptoes, Veronica rests one hand on his shoulder for balance and narrows her eyes as she scopes out the other side of the room. She’s been distracted ever since they arrived, fending off a series of handshakes and how-are-you’s from the blandly attractive 50- and 60-somethings in suits who make up most of the gathered crowd.
Jughead chews his crab cake slowly, deep in thought. “So…today is just…saying ‘I do’?”
(Jughead is recently divorced, and he keeps running into Betty Cooper at weddings. AU.)
read it on ao3.
#bughead#bughead fic#jughead jones#betty cooper#riverdale#riverdale fic#in case it wasn't clear already 90% of this fic is just me making myself laugh#hope u guys enjoy!!#fic#eta: it seems like i can't get the URL to work for some reason??? uggghhh i hate posting from my phone#i barely have internet so if someone can confirm if its actually not working i would appreciate it lol
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would it be. genuinely insane if i started writing that stupid lisa frankenstein jarchie au in my brain. ive never been able to write more thn 5k for a single fic so it wouldnt get finished. but.
#my mind. it is so.#ok but lsiten#instead of jughead wanting The Sex before he gets arrested or whaever he takes archie on a date to pops#thats what the last part archie is its like maybe his throat? or his tongue and he like steals it from someone who lied to jughead.symbolis#also jughead would superglue him together or something because he is Stupid#bitch doesnt know how to sew#also the serpents would be there probably collectively taking the role of taffy#because jughead is mean but they love him anyway and he doesnt gaf about it#UGH OK I NEED TO STOP#original post#riverdale#jughead jones#archie andrews#shitpost#lisa riverdale
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Jughead surviving rabies makes him one of only two people in human history to have done so. Okay medical marvel 🫡
#Riverdale is so lucky that one person has actually survived without a shot#cause otherwise I would call bullshit#but I can’t! cause someone really did so why couldn’t Jughead#s watches riverdale
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Anyway so I randomly started hyperfixating on the Archie comics again so if the fandom exists other than just Riverdale and porn of the female characters, please come find me🙏
#so far I’ve been able to find the aspec jughead fans which is a good start bc I love aspec jughead but some veriety would be nice too#I also got yelled at by a grown adult riverdale fan for saying jug is aroace#so there’s that#no hate to the riverdale fans I just haven’t seen it and I don’t know if it would be my cup of tea#fandom#archie comics#adhd#neurodivergent#hyperfixation
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i made the mistake of checking the comments on riverdales instagrams post about tabitha and so many people were saying that tabitha brings nothing to the show. i’m sorry, are we talking about the same tabitha tate? the one who saved riverdale twice, once on her own at the last minute? the tabitha tate who gave up everything with the one she had fallen in love with so that he could at least be happy in the new reality and went on to work out how she could save riverdale again by herself for however long it would take? what makes me so sad is that i know if tabitha had come to riverdale and had just helped jughead get back with betty and went on to date reggie everyone would love her and worship her. literally what happened with jopaz is just happening with tabitha and people don’t like her and find her a worthless character because she dated jughead and he’s happy with someone who helped heal him and get over someone who broke his heart. but whatever. let’s imagine a riverdale without tabitha. do you see it? yeah everyone’s dead and season 7 is the sweet hereafter. what a season to go out on without tabitha. percival also would have taken riverdale over so like. shut up.
#i also saw someone call her a nasty character cause she took jughead’s memories#and i started at that comment for so long trying to figure out what the hell it meant#HE CONSENTED TO HAVING HIS MEMORIES TAKEN CAUSE IT WAS FOR THE BEST#i also realized people would hate her for not taking his memories too so that there’d be no chance for bughead#so it’s a lose-lose for tabitha whatever she does and like. she’s so slay. i love her with all my heart#AMAZING addition to the show and people say she’s flat and boring. when she saved riverdale twice and is an angel#idk what to tag this cause it might offended people#i just got a bit ranty and i was screaming at my phone#all the comments are so terrible and i’m like. there’s not liking a character but then there’s ‘nasty character’ cause she did something#she had to do
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In honor of a new riverdale season (actually, when did that even happen?? Guys, im so confused)
It’s that time once again
Here’s you not so friendly reminder that Jughead Jones is not gay, he is not straight, he is not bi, he is AROACE
#Jughead Jones#foaming at the mouth#ha you think I was ever gonna let this go?#he’s one of the ONLY CHARACTERS I HAVE DAMMIT#I will fight tooth and nail to get everyone to see how this is NOT okay#if he was gay in the comcis y’all would be all OVER that#but he’s aroace so who cares right?#certainly not any of you#aroace jughead#aroace jughead jones#aromantic jughead#asexual jughead jones#anti bughead#anti jabitha#anti jarchie#anti jeronica#whatoh back at it again#riverdale#riverdale cw
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it would add nothing thematically except be amusing to ME cheryl jughead bodyswap
oh you're soooooo fun, anon. i like how you think. cheryl would be deep in the horrors, she'd be walking around saying things like "i'm grotesque" right in front of jughead's face.
jughead at thornhill!! sapphic moments between jughead-as-cheryl and betty as she tries to help him do cheryl's makeup well enough to evade detection (veronica is supervising btw. girl time!).
#i think cheryl-as-jughead and kevin and archie would be each other's subplot partners and that would be so jarring#riverdale#cheryl blossom#jughead jones
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Outfit appreciation post (Ancient Rome edition)
#of *course* he has a real horse#I love how the writers could easily have just made this another alternate universe#like the caveman one or the far-future one or etc etc etc there’s a million#but instead they decided that Riverdale High just has extremely elaborate themed days#and the gang’s Ancient Rome shenanigans would specifically be contained within the grounds of a high school in the 80s(?)#I’m so JEALOUS though#this is such a cool event and everyone’s putting so much effort into it and just#man it looks like SO MUCH FUN#I WANT TO DRESS UP AND PRETEND TO BE IN ANCIENT ROME#archie comics#outfit appreciation post#archie andrews#jughead jones#absolutely rocking the magenta miniskirt tunic A+#betty cooper#veronica lodge#reggie mantle#mr. weatherbee#miss grundy
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no nuance allowed- did FP love jughead?
Yes.
#asks#anon#riverasks#Could do a chart of riverparents 'how much did they love their kids / how good were they at showing it'#granted none of them were very good at it so would have to adjust the bar#But u know.#Anyway yes I do think FP loved Jughead I just think he was scared of being the father of a boy when his father#who was also the father of a boy was a failure. and FP doesn't blame his dad for ruining his life how could he.#His dad didn't make him pick up the bottle.#But he doesn't want Jughead to end up like him and that's why he's so hard on him sometimes#He never communicates any of this to anyone not even sure he's aware of it himself. L#And part of him has always believed Jughead would be better off without him.#but he is so proud of the person Jughead becomes not just for his own sake but also for Jughead's#His Joy's going to college!#and then his boy drops out of college.#and becomes an alcoholic.#and they never see each other again.#[screaming crying wailing]#'OP why didn't you put this on the post itself?'#because anon asked for no nuance so they're getting a very unnuanced surface level answer#but also I have 'yapping in the tags' disease
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i still think it was a total waste that they didnt do freeze your brain in the heathers rvd ep
#Would have been so so easy. But well jughead cant fucking sing so i understand why.#my mom recoiled so hard when he started that the couch moved#isaac drama posting hours
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