#i will say though. sometimes my perspective on this means i disagree with other bi ppl abt how they account for our experiences.
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Tbh I have a lot of sympathy for "annoying" bi women bc basically every common annoying bi woman behaviour is the direct result of patriarchy and homophobia. Like idk, that stereotype of the bi woman who constantly asserts how gay she is and how she's attracted to all women but only like four men but somehow always ends up with a man? That's literally bc of patriarchal social pressures that make bi women habitually enter into relationships with men despite their preferences. So they feel compelled to assert those preferences constantly in order to be seen. This is very obvious to me idk what's wrong with the rest of you.
#like youre staring right into the face of someone grappling with how misogyny/patriarchy affects their relationships#i will say though. sometimes my perspective on this means i disagree with other bi ppl abt how they account for our experiences.#like 'most bi ppl end up with the opposite gender bc there's more straight people' is a half truth at best#like obviously ppl living in a homophobic society are going to be more hesitant abt getting into a same sex relationship#and i do think that bi ppl have some responsibility to grapple with all this#like you really do need to just stop complaining abt how 'women are scary' (bc they ARENT) and just start dating them#you will feel better i promise#txt
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First of all, just putting this out there I agree with 10/12 of these (well, 9 and 2 halves?)
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1. Wille is demi and bi and should explore his gender post-canon. I mostly agree with this, I just don’t see Wille as specifically demi and bi. I see him as somewhere on the aroace spectrum and I honestly can’t really think about whether he’d also be attracted to girls or not, maybe I see him that way because I’m vaguely sapphic and aroace-spec (because idk what I am other than ‘I’ve Liked One (1) Girl (whom I was already close with)’) but that’s just my thoughts on it. (And I totally respect any other perspectives). The gender bit though? 100%. He/they Wille my beloved, but I also firmly believe that anyone who feels like maybe experimenting with presenting a little more feminine or masculine should 100% go for it if they can. Even if they ultimately decide ‘nah, that isn’t for me’, at least they can say for certain that they gave it a go because it interested them.
2. Simon does some things wrong and that’s wonderful actually. 100% agree. Let dumb teens (affectionate) be dumb teens! (Also just let humans be human!) He’s my beloved, darling boy, but he messes up sometimes because he’s alive. Living beings make mistakes. <3
3. Dirtbag Erik > Perfect Brother Erik. Perfect people are boring. No elaboration needed.
4. August/Nils should have a lot more fics on AO3 than it does. True~ I personally don’t really care either way (because I personally don’t read many August fics), but I was surprised that there was such a massive growth in August/Vincent fics and not August/Nils, since they were the main 2 out of the 3 that actually had quite emotional conversations (like when they talked about the affect their initiation had on them).
5. Linda deserves to have a life beyond her kids, and being perfect for her kids. This this this. I actually really enjoy Linda as a character because she’s imperfect, and I honestly find her kinda annoying in fics where she’s made out to be perfect all the time (so sorry Linda <3), nobody’s perfect. Also, I wholeheartedly agree with your NaNoWriMo headcanon, I think it’s the little, silly seeming, things that make characters feel so much more real and human?
6. Frida, Malte, and Nikita are the hottest of the Main Five actors. Personally, I disagree (although they are all gorgeous human beings, in fact, I once saw this person who looked just like Frida, and I felt so bad because I just kept looking over at them ever few minutes because, one, they were so pretty, two, they looked like Frida and, three, they were speaking Welsh and I just thought they sounded really cool.) but, I don’t think that’s necessarily because I find Edvin and Omar more attractive so to speak but because a large part of what draws me to people is their personality and talents, and I’ve seen much more of Edvin and Omar (in interviews and stuff) than I have Frida, Malte, or Nikita. (I will say though, as an autistic person, some of the things Frida said in Young Royals Forever had me sobbing. Her saying about how she would’ve loved to see a character like Sara as a young person with her diagnoses, I was sat there like “as an autistic (and probably adhd) young person, she means the world to me. <3”)
7. Platonic salice > romantic salice. Honestly, this is my other ‘mostly agree but not fully’ one, because on one hand I adore their friendship and it means everything to me (especially with the friend breakup and how deeply that affected Felice and just how much they mean to each other without it needing to be romantic), but on another hand, I enjoy salice fics because I’m an autistic sapphic person who deeply relates to Sara and enjoys seeing happy sapphics.
8. Rosh should be shipped with other girls, frequently and creatively. Yes. 100% agree. No notes needed.
9. Oops, Vincent is sympathetic sometimes. 100%. Just because someone sucks, doesn’t mean I want to see them fail because they weren’t given enough/the correct accommodations. I find it 1000x more satisfying to see an annoying neurodivergent character fail despite having all the accommodations required to put them on as equal footing as possible with their neurotypical peers, otherwise I’m just watching a person being failed by the same system that partially failed me – which is more depressing and frustrating than satisfying.
10. Secondary characters shouldn’t have to be wilmon shippers to be likeable. This. In fact, sometimes it makes me like characters less if they nonsensically are like “yessss!! Slay!!! Get together and be cute!!!!!” (as you said) it just feels like I’m reading/watching characters interacting with their favourite ship on tumblr, not characters interacting with their classmates/students.
11. YR does not share a universe with RWRB. I agree, no elaboration needed.
12. The intimacy scenes in s3 (especially the big one) made me kind of uncomfortable, actually. I have so many feelings about The Hallway Scene™️ but, seeing as most of them are subtext related (which I’m so down to explain or redirect people to someone who explains it better than I could) I’m not gonna go into much detail other than: I viscerally was like “something is deeply wrong here” about the hallway scene.
Blue’s Contrary Young Royals Opinions Poll (make your own if you want to!)
Just for funsies, I created a poll about my Contrary Young Royals Opinions. I’m calling them Contrary rather than Unpopular because different things are popular in different parts of fandom, and things cycle in and out of popularity, so who knows what’s popular even? Rather, these are just things that I am stubborn and ornery about. Some of them might be mainstream opinions, but I am stubborn and ornery about them all the same.
You all know that I am an August Enjoyer who obstinately ships sargust, so I did not put that on the poll. I also feel that my sargust shipping and August enjoying sometimes obscures my other contrary opinions because it’s like, my signature trait. So this is a chance to talk about other things!
Please vote and reblog for the sake of fun and interesting data. Add commentary in the tags if you feel like it. Also feel free to create your own Contrary Opinion poll, because I wanna see what other people’s contrary opinions are.
Explanations below the cut. Click if you want to know more about what each poll button means to me in more depth.
Wille is demi and bi and should explore his gender more post-canon. Now, in canon, Wille is unlabeled, and I wanna respect that. So this is more headcanon than anything else. I know some folks read Wille as exclusively same-sex attracted. I do not (although I support people doing such) but I also read him as much more on the demisexual and/or demiromantic end of the spectrum than anything else. Of course I am aspec, so I’m seeing it through this lens. On the gender side of things, well, I just think it would be neat? Wille trying on nail polish and then furiously scrubbing it off breaks my heart. It feels like the royal fam has controlled Wille’s gender expression most of his life and made him present in this more conservative masculine way, and he hasn’t had many options. I also do think Wille’s explosive anger is something he’ll have to grapple with in the future, and I see his anger as tied to a lot of the masculine socializing he was raised in. So having outlets for his feelings that are a little less conventionally masculine could be good. Let Wille wear nail polish. Let him wear skirts. Let him experiment with his hair! I’m of the opinion that even cis people should explore their gender, so even if he played with his gender expression for six months and then decided he’d continue to present conventionally masculine again, that would be good for him. (But in my heart I’m a bit of a he/they Wille truther, not gonna lie.)
Simon does some things wrong and that’s wonderful actually. Let me explain what I mean by this. There is a popular view of Simon where he’s very selfless and makes sacrifices for his loved ones and stands up for what he believes in, while also having to suffer and do a lot of things out of desperation. This is true. There is also a co-existing side of Simon that’s a little less selfless, a little more ambitious, and a little bit more likely to make assumptions about what other people want or need without consulting them. There’s the Simon who feels he has to protect Sara when she clearly doesn’t want him to, and the Simon who hides things from Linda when he shouldn’t. There’s the Simon who calls Bjärstad shitty in a way that upsets Rosh and Ayub at the beginning of season 1, who enlists Rosh and Ayub to help intimidate August in 1.3 without fully thinking about how they might feel about it. Yes, Simon does a lot of things out of selfless care for others and out of desperation, but to assume he only ever does things for selfless, desperate reasons without any selfish impulses or ambition mixed in is… well, it misses some of the most fascinating contradictions in his character. Let Simon be a selfish teenager sometimes! It’s developmentally appropriate and it might one day save his life.
Dirtbag Erik > Perfect Brother Erik. I never really gravitated toward the perfectly supportive headcanon for Erik that was popular in some corners of fandom. I know this is not a radical thing to claim after season 3 and a lot of people are coming out of the woodwork and saying it. I think the point I want to make here is less that Ambiguously A Dirtbag Erik is canon and more that he’s inherently more interesting to me to read about than Saint Erik, Patron of Lost Little Brothers. I’m sort of fascinated by the way that interactions with family members always have layers, and that you look back on past events and uncover more of the layers as you grow up. That’s the shit I live for in fiction. I also don’t love discussions about “what would Erik do if he were alive” because I enjoy sitting in the horrific tension of characters not knowing but having to build a better world in his absence.
August/Nils should have a lot more fics on AO3 than it does. As far as I can tell it has one. One! I ship August with Sara first and foremost but August and Nils have some unexpectedly tender moments in season 3 that made me go “wait, that’s interesting…” about their relationship. Yes, August keeps calling Nils nouveau riche. Yes, Nils finds August’s perfectionism annoying. These are all just tensions to play on to make the eventual bittersweet, conflicted makeout scene more bittersweet and conflicted and hot. If August/Vincent can suddenly gain more fics post season 3, it surprises me that August/Nils hasn’t surpassed them.
Linda deserves to have a life and hobbies beyond her kids, and especially beyond being perfect for her kids. Don’t get me wrong, she does care about Simon and Sara a lot and does what she can for them. And because we’re watching a show centered around teenage characters, we’re mostly gonna imagine her in her capacity as a mom. But I also love seeing the moments in canon where Linda is less than perfect—when she embarrasses her kids, or when she comes down hard on them in ways that are less than helpful—because that shows the human vulnerabilities beneath. That she’s trying to figure things out in the moment, and she isn’t always right. That makes me love her more. And I’d desperately love to see Linda have a hobby like, I dunno, writing a crime novel every NaNoWriMo or something. (I have put this into a fanfic, actually.)
Frida and Malte and Nikita are the hottest of the Main Five actors. I get the appeal of Omar in abstract way, but he looks exactly like the crush of one of my chief OCs in a YA novel I was writing, so I think of him as OC Rose’s crush and feel no draw to him myself. Edvin is a great actor but does nothing for me aesthetically. Oh, aesthetic attraction. So individualized to all of us!
Salice is more meaningful to me as a platonic ship than a romantic one. I am so glad they bring people joy as a romantic ship, and I’m happy to gift the fic ideas I do get for them to the people who love them, but for me they matter more as best friends. When I write them, I draw on real platonic friendships I have had in my real life, ones that matter a lot. Sara breaking up with August to prioritize friendship feels more radical to me. Also sometimes I think I’m a Bad Sapphic for having these thoughts about Salice, but then I remember that Heart and Homeland has so much sapphic content involving Felice and other women, as well as just sapphic content beyond that, and I sleep easier.
Rosh should be shipped with all the other girls, and frequently and creatively. Yes, Madirosh is an overnight fanon sensation we should celebrate that. Yes, Stella/Rosh took us by surprise and by storm for a hot minute, and we should do more of it. But have we considered… Fredrika trying to angrily and messily seduce Rosh because Stella seemed to be crushing on her? How about Rosh and Felice as a glorious butch/femme power couple? How about if Sara is gonna date a tall athletic brunette she dates one who plays a real sport (football) and not a fake sport (rowing)? I hope we all see the vision.
Oops Vincent is sympathetic sometimes. Look, I am not going to deny that Vincent is a bully who sucks. I also think his first year letter was telling. In the letter, Vincent, at sixteen, has just received his ADHD diagnosis. That’s a long time for a rich white boy to go without getting one! That means he’s probably had sixteen years to struggle to pay attention in class—he’s probably acting out and moving around a lot, and internalizing the idea that he Can’t Do School. His parents probably make some “boys will be boys” excuse at conferences. Then he finally gets the diagnosis and gets put on meds. My sense is that Hillerska only cares that his meds don’t make him disruptive in class. They probably don’t care about teaching him alternative study methods that actually work for him, or creating an environment where he feels empowered to use accommodations. And as folks who are knowledgeable with ADHD know, if you get behind in school like that, it takes more than meds to catch you up and help you feel empowered in class. When we see Vincent after his national exams, he’s drawing dicks in the dirt, because he can only envision himself as the class clown who fails academically. He says the academics don’t matter as a self-soothing technique. He’s become mean—mean in a “funny” way—as a way of feeling like he has a “thing” at school. And yes, Vincent will probably be “fine,” he will remain rich and go big game hunting and marry a trophy wife into adulthood or whatever. Again, he sucks! That does not change the fact that Hillerska failed him and his neurodivergences, and that he could actually have a sense of real efficacy and self-compassion for himself as a disabled person instead of just being “fine.” Daddy I don’t love him. But Daddy I would like him to feel empowered to use his extended time on tests. Daddy I would like someone to teach Vincent the pomodoro method as a study skill.
Secondary characters shouldn’t have to be wilmon shippers to be likable to fandom. It throws me out of a fic or a headcanon when secondary characters only are there to support Wilmon being the cutest soulmates ever. I don’t mean when someone like Felice offers a supportive comment to them as a couple, or occasionally thinks they’ve done something cute. I mean when characters sound exactly like shippers in fandom, with similar talking points, and when we as readers of the fic are supposed to sympathize with them because they sound exactly like us. People… don’t talk about friends and family and classmates the same way they talk about fictional blorbos.
YR does not share a universe with RWRB. This idea was more widespread in the old days of fandom, so this Contrary Opinion feels more vintage. As far as what I do think it could share a universe with, I vote for Tana French’s Dublin Murder Squad novels, for the class conflict and the incredibly complex characterization. I would also say Ashley Herring Blake’s Girl Made of Stars has a lot in common with YR in terms of how it approaches trauma and family relationships.
The intimacy scenes in season 3 (especially the big one) made me feel kind of uncomfortable, actually. Something about the changes to directing style and how they were filmed. I don’t really want to explain this one right now but maybe I will someday. So this one is also there for folks who viscerally felt that too.
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actually genuinely curious whether destiel antis are this way bc they’re homophobic or can’t get over the toxicity of the ship bc i def understand their latter but no one even,,, addresses it in their hate??
Hi!
I mean, let’s be real: for some of them, it’s definitely homophobia. Not a valid reason for not liking destiel, and certainly not why I don’t ship it. However, I do not know of anyone in my immediate circle who dislikes it for that reason. In fact, I would be shocked if that were the case, considering so many of my friends on here ship sastiel, deanxbenny, jodyxdonna, dreamhunter, etc. For me - and I think the majority of others (at least, I hope) it has nothing to do with it being an mlm ship. There are other reasons why I don’t ship them (under the cut because it got pretty long):
1) I just...don’t like it? Like, it’s that simple. I’m not into seeing Dean and Cas together romantically. From what I can tell, most of the general audience falls in this category, too. I obviously don’t think it’s inherently wrong to ship it, and I try not to generalize. i follow and have followers who ship destiel, and they’re lovely people! I’m personally just not into it. I literally cannot picture a romantic or sexual relationship between these two characters.
2) There are certainly toxic elements to it, like you mentioned, and I think a lot of people notice this. Nobody on this show is perfect, but it’s hard for me to look at Dean and Cas - who argue and belittle each other more than Cas or Sam, or Cas and Jack - and be like “oh yeah that’s true love.” And often it’s Dean and his temper getting in the way of this. Not to mention that Dean only recently forgave Cas for what happened to his mother, and that “apology” in 15x09 wasn’t really an apology for his previous behavior. Yes, it was good to see Dean admit to having a horrible temper and let Cas know that he cares about him and forgives him, but it wasn’t truly an apology. I just think that for as much as I enjoy their friendship, their relationship with each other doesn’t suit romance. Look at Sam and Cas - I don’t ship sastiel, either, really, but I can see that their relationship is much more relaxed and understanding. Plus there’s the fact that Dean (and Sam, of course, but he clearly wasn’t 100% on board and regretted it almost instantly) manipulated Jack and was willing to kill him, and Cas...Jack was Cas’s kid first, beloved and wanted, and even if Dean and Cas can be friends again, how do you even move on from that, really? There are more examples of the more toxic element, but I’m already sorta getting long-winded here.
3) I ship Cas with other people, and so do others, so they just prefer him with someone else. Totally cool, too.
4) I firmly and enthusiastically agree that people should have whatever headcanons they want and ship just about whatever they want (I also am firmly and enthusiastically against any pedophillic or incestuous ships, just so you know). You think Dean is bi? Awesome! Sam is trans? Love it! Angels are on the autism spectrum? I can totally see it! Headcanons and shipping can make interacting with a text more personal and fun. And text can definitely be open to interpretation, so it’s not even necessarily wrong to interpret Dean as bisexual. But the way I read canon, Dean is straight. I have never seen him express sexual or romantic interest in another man. I’ve seen him acknowledge that another man is attractive, sure, but that’s normal. I can admit that another woman is attractive, but still not want to be with her. So for me, unless it’s explicitly stated in canon in these last seven episodes, I think it’s canon that Dean is straight and wouldn’t be interested in Cas anyway. We can agree to disagree - I certainly welcome it! - but I’m someone who adheres pretty strictly to canon, usually. And that’s how I see the canon.
5) One of the things I think supernatural has done better than a lot of other shows is show that families and friendships come in many forms. To me, Team Free Will is a unit, and it would feel weird to me if any of them became romantically involved with each other, as if the dynamic had been thrown off-balance. Same reason I don’t ship any of the boys in The Outsiders together - they’re a band of brothers, not necessarily related by blood, but a found family. So when Dean says to Cas that he and Sam view Cas as a brother, then a romantic relationship between any of them would just feel...off to me.
6) Finally, looking at the story and the character arcs and considering the character games, I do not see Dean ending up in a romantic relationship, or even wanting it. Casual sex? Yep. A home? Yep yep. A family? Yes, yes, yes a thousand times. But a family, like I said above, can look like many things. I also can’t see Cas ending up in a romantic relationship or wanting one (even though I ship megstiel.) It’s just not where their stories seem to be headed. Sam? Sure. I think the show is setting up him and Eileen to share some sort of romantic relationship in some capacity (which - woohoo! At least on my end.) But even then, that’s up in the air. Romance is honestly the least of the characters’ - and especially the story’s - worries. They have many much more pressing matters to attend to that need to be resolved first before any real talk of romance.
7) I feel like I should mention this even though it doesn’t have to do with the ship or the characters directly, but on the whole? The destiel community is incredibly toxic. Harassing cast and crew, harassing fans who disagree with them, superiority complexes, fetishization, unwillingness to listen to outside perspectives, believing their read of canon is the be-all end-all, and a dynamic that to me is eerily similar to the old Harry Potter fandom’s Inner Circle (of Cassandra Clare and msscribe fame). This obviously doesn’t apply to every individual who ships destiel, but in general I don’t find the whole group pleasant to interact with or very welcoming. It kinda turns you off the ship to know that’s the community you’re dealing with, and if/when destiel doesn’t go canon? The toxicity will increase tenfold. Hell, it’ll increase even if it does because their egos will go through the roof.
I hope that clears some things up for you. Once again, the fact that it’s an mlm ship IS NOT THE PROBLEM. If anyone says that’s why they don’t ship it, fuck ‘em. And there are many individual destiel shippers who are wonderful and I love interacting with, and are very understanding and accepting and non-toxic. But these are the reasons I don’t ship it, so I’m sorry if I haven’t made that clear in the past. I think a lot of people share the same reasoning, too, so I’m sorry if they haven’t made that clear either. I know I sometimes get caught up in the wank and making jokes, and so do others, and our reasons for not shipping it can get lost in that. I’m not trying to make any personal attacks.
But thank you for asking this, and I hope this cleared some things up for you!
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Why I hate Tumblr
Look at me, I’m making a post about why I hate Tumblr on Tumblr. That’s valid grounds to say “Oh look at you making a post about why you hate Tumblr on Tumblr. You hate the site so much then why are you on it?” I’m on Tumblr because I don’t have any other social media where you can blog without a word limit, or getting a removal due to lack of relevancy, so I’m doing it here. Also, why make a post criticizing Tumblr anywhere else? I’m trying to criticize a site so I might as well make my criticizations happen on the site itself for convenience, even though likely no one will see this post. I’d also like to preface this post by saying that I am not trying to spread hate despite the very misleading title. I hate Tumblr, but there’s a set of reasons for that which I will get into later. I can hate something and not spread hate about it. I will not fix what I don’t like about the site by spreading hate so I will attempt not to do that. Even if I had the intention of spreading hate, how I am going to do that? Galvanise my non existing followers into brigading Tumblr? I am fully against that type of behaviour online, and I don’t lie about my opinions online. That’s something else I’d like to say. I will not change or hide my beliefs. I will own what I believe in. That doesn’t mean I’m going to push my way of life on you, and it doesn’t mean I’m not open minded. It means, for example if I say I hate eggplant, I hate eggplant. If I say I like Trump I like Trump. If I say I support Women’s rights I support Women’s rights. I will not lie about what I believe in.
Anyway, the first thing I hate about Tumblr is the lack of respect for heterosexual people. I know that not everyone on the site shares the same beliefs, but from what I’ve seen on the site I can firmly say some people do not have respect for people who are straight. What kind of disrespect am I talking about? The kind where people say “Oh you’re straight? Boringggggggg” Which gender you like does not influence who you are. Gay people are not automatically the belle of the ball because they are gay. I am not the cat lady down the street who knits all day because I am straight. Sexuality should not influence whether you are quote unquote “interesting”. It’s very arrogant for someone to say that straight people are uninteresting. Like, I get that LGBT culture has a reputation for being flamboyant. But, consider this. LGBT people are not the only people who can be flamboyant. I’ve met lots and lots of interesting straight people. I’ve met old people with lots of interesting stories about their past and they’re straight. I wish people would stop using their sexuality as a crutch to tell people they’re interesting and put down people who are straight as being not interesting. In my eyes, everyone has something interesting about them. It could be a talent, a hobby, a past experience but everyone is interesting in their own way. I’m not saying this because “muh straight people”. If I was bi, gay, pan or ace I would say the exact same thing. This isn’t a post from a straight persons perspective but from a persons perspective. If I hadn’t said I was straight you should take the post and see it in the same light. I don’t mind people being interesting and flamboyant, I mind that they put down other sexualities to do it and use their own to support the fact that they’re interesting.
The second thing I hate about Tumblr is the arrogance. I cannot even being to describe how much mental agony I’m put in about arrogance. If someone is even the slightest bit arrogant, online or anywhere else I am instantly put into a state of anger. I cannot even begin to describe how angry I get. It is the strongest emotion I can possibly begin to comprehend and it happens when people are cocky without reason, arrogant because they can be and condescending. If I didn’t have the self control my house would be a cheese grater of drywall holes because of the constant, FUCKING anger I get into about arrogance, because of how much I see it online. Even if someone is being arrogant to say, Trump after his fiftieth racist tweet I cannot stand it. I’m not the only one who hates arrogance either. It’s pretty much a universal thing unless you’re a monk or something. Arrogance attacks what humans are, giant egos. We are at the top of the food chain because we cannot stand being at the bottom. We rose above every other animal because we cannot stand being below someone. It is this ambition and ego that drove us to where we are now, and while having an ego is bad sometimes, I would not be writing this, as I sit in my chair in my house if we did not have egos. This ego is what leads to me be so fucking infuriated when someone online is arrogant or condescending. It makes me want to go Modern Warfare 2 Xbox 360 lobby but in text form. That’s why I always try my very best to not be arrogant. If I hate arrogance so much then I can only imagine everyone else who hates arrogance, so I try my very best to not be arrogant, but it seems not everyone else had the same bright idea. I see what’s fun about being condescending, but my god. It is such mental torture to me. And guess what Tumblr is. A sassy, arrogant, condescending site. You say something someone disagrees with. Arrogant response. You argue with someone. Condescending response. Someone posts a screenshotted tweet. Condescending tweet. Someone disagrees with the tweet. Arrogant replies. This isn’t contained to Tumblr, but it is where I see the most infuriating examples. I loathe the culture of Tumblr, where open mindedness and acceptance is often thrown out in favour of a cocky response or a condescending baby talk reply. This sassy culture is what I hate, and I see it everywhere. That’s why I try to be open minded and accepting, but guess what, Fucko? No one else is gonna be. Good job on trying to have a nice respectful argument, because while you show the other person respect, that’s something they won’t reciprocate as they throw passive aggressive condescending remark after the other at you. Despite the trouble with trying to remain open minded and accepting, I still can’t give in and let myself sink into the arrogance that is the internet. I will keep trying because if I don’t I have no right to complain. Anyway, my point is. people should be open minded, respectful and down to earth everywhere. If someone has an opinion, let them have their opinion without being overly rude about it. If someone is contesting your point online, try to not dismiss it right away.
That concludes my rant. In conclusion, be respectful, not only to me but everyone else. If you would like to point out something you didn’t like about my essay then feel free, but please try to be open minded and respectful as I will try to be. Obviously its dumb to make a somewhat controversial post and not expect people to be rude to you about it, but I believe in the best of humanity. We as the human race should not be thinking about how we can stop each other but how we can help each other. We live on one planet, we share it with everyone else so if your fellow human is trying to get something off of his chest, try to remember we will get nowhere in life if everyone else is ignorant of each other. Reciprocate people with respect unless they definitely don’t deserve it, like if they committed a genocide, but aside from that try and be respectful, even if its not easy. Thank you.
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That's why I hate bisexual women ... I mean I am a straight woman and I don't even offend myself for your post, honestly or go out with men if I didn't like them, but they act as worshipers of the dick once a lesbian criticizes them ... literally without realizing it you are right and of course they erase the rumor of "Biphobia" because everyone here loves the fucking bisexuality that many straight girls pretend to be.
I respond maybe a week too late here but anon, you have to understand that you cannot say things like “That’s why I hate bisexual women” when you’re a straight woman and therefore have privileges over them. I sincerely hope you don’t think this way, we may disagree when some of them are protecting men like their life depended on it but I appreciate bi women and we share our love for women. Most of the time my critics come from a place of class analysis : in my recent post about bi women, saying they have “half-won have failed” I wrote that in a kind of shitpost format but the idea I was trying to convey is there, I simply vulgarised a feminist observation shared by lots of us no matter then sexual orientation : for women, loving men is a burden. Like you said, you’re straight and you can understand that yourself, because it comes from a feminist perspective and it’s objectively true. Men as a class take everything from women as a class, they often whine when they marry a woman, supposedly the love of their life, act all though around their male friends acting like their freedom will end but if anything they benefit from marriage while women don’t, sacrificing everything, their time their energy their emotional labour, their body, etc.
You’re right about some of them acting like they worship men once lesbians criticise their attraction to men, the comments under my post prove it and they’re truly disgusting. They think that such a critic of their heterosexual attraction means we think they can erase that attraction, well no, that’s the point of the post : clearly saying that their attraction to men exists (and that’s the terrible part), but these people have no reading comprehension and I’m not surprised, women who aren’t feminists don’t get it and take it personally. You’re straight, understand that most straight women around the world worship men as much as these bi women you claim to hate, better : they’re even worst than that. That’s how internalised sexism works, and yes it’s pretty fucked up.
The thing is : don’t hate any group of women, no matter the specific experience they have because they are from a certain other minority. Hate instead how patriarchy is brainwashing them, try to educate your sisters, always. Radical feminism is a movement of women’s liberation from patriarchy, so we don’t bring down the ones who lick thy boots of our oppressors, that’s not effective, we show them how wrong they are, how they’ve been fooled, how to fight back. Sometimes I don’t have the energy and so I don’t say anything rather than lashing out and insulting them, it’s difficult when I receive hateful comments from these women everyday since that post (lesbophobia, the usual insults, etc) but i try to not say I hate this or that group of women. Simply because it’s not true, i don’t hate any woman and I believe in sisterhood, that’s why I’m a (radical) feminist.
#anonymous#answers#i wrote#bi women#straight women#wlm#internalized sexism#liberal lesbophobia#haters#explaining things#sisterhood#radical feminism
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Okay let me start off by saying you do not have to agree to engage in this post - I speak most of my time on this page debating/arguing with people. I do not block people for disagreeing. I don’t believe in blocking people if I’m not ‘winning’ so I can have the last word (that happens to me a lot so intrusive not to do it). As long as you don’t don’t call me out of my name or infer things about me I will be cordial - imma give you what you give me (so just remember that). I am ating @optimisticdays because I said I would. I’ve also deleted the other post after speaking to this person I read the post over and over to see if I was missing the flaw - it wasn’t until I read my reply to the op of another post that I was like 😬 you are making another gender in a way that could be inferred as denying someone’s identity. My intention was to speak on the belief that bisexuality is solely a combination of male and female instead of of the aspects that go into gender and in part the deniability of the difference between the two sexualities pan and bi and how that plays in recent discussions (in the Druck fandom). Anyway - let’s get into it.
I’m going to preface this again - Yes most commonly transgender male as male - transgender female is female. I say most commonly because not all transgender people fall to this rule. I’m not trying to claim otherwise (for the majority). My case isn’t on that persay but on the association to sexuality and the differentiation in sexual concepts (bisexuality/pansexuality) as it is condensed in fandom. Like I said the flaw in my last point was already mentioned i was using gender as the umbrella term of the association and classifying trans as its own gender instead of simply stating that it has an intricate working with sexuality when broken down (but not always limited or inclusive) to expression, identifier, s-x. I don’t want to say identity as an umbrella either as I don’t think even that expresses what I was saying. I get while people thought I was saying trans is a gender if it’s own - because I was and not correlating (in the big post) why I was making that relation (intentional or unintentional). Let me back and define the sexualities I’m speaking on because this is what I’m making my argument:
Bisexuality was first consumed as being attracted sexually or romantically to both male and female gender. This was conventional fitting to concepts of the time even though there were most like genders of all kind during any and every era. Then in more modernized eras we redefined Bisexuality to mean the capable attraction to people sometimes dependent upon biological sex, gender identity, or expression - must denote to at least two gender aspects but not necessarily all. While pansexuality means the capable attracted to all people, regardless of biological s-x, gender identity, or expression. This is the big separation between the two for me. Pan means all and there’s not getting around that but bisexuality does not mean all. I know some people interchanges the two - I don’t have a problem with that - I do it if I’m speaking to someone who does it - but the issue comes in when we’re okay with erasing someone identifier because it don’t sit well with us and I find that often happens in fandom. To extend on that when it comes to fandom discussion bisexuality is seen solely as male and female and led with a perception that it’s also a 50% equality. That’s not true. You can actually be bisexual and not include on of those aspects at all - including the concepts of masculinity vs femininity and that’s not even speaking on romantic vs s-x. And yes that’s why I’m saying I get the concept of saying oh he’s just gay when you get the transgender aspect but I think that’s only is you eliminate all the other (possible because it’s not inherent) elements. I try not to say gender too much because I know people base that down to male female despite not only third genders but also the fact of association, expression, s-x, identities all playing into sexuality but not always the same way or intricately one. This is why I argue that Matteo could still fall under the bisexual label without being attracted to girls/women/feminine concepts or aspects. I’m not saying that he is - only that technically he can or if a viewer was so inclined to associate him with the sexuality (without trying to put feminine/female concepts on the line). And yes I could have made arguments for androsexual/andromantic (as they don’t replace sexuality) but the dialogue I keep seeing is specifically about the sexualities of bisexuality and pansexuality.
Basically what I’m saying is when these things overlap underlap (even for transgender people not only the aforementioned trans people that don’t fit under the simplified law of what trans means) how then can we just process them into uncomplicated labels such as gay or hetero alone as though these overlapping concepts don’t then also come in with pansexual (if you interchange) or in this case bisexual aspects?! When it comes to Matteo I say he could fall to these concepts I’m not saying he has to or that fandom has to see him in that light but when you say this is persons a identify thus you must only associate him to this sexuality when so many aspects play into sexuality (or romantics). If Matteo still says he’s gay - then yes of course he’s gay. I’m maybe half an episode behind but the last thing I hear him say on the topic was a question of the concept not a validation on his perspective on the matter. The last thing I heard fandom say about it (until today) is why didn’t the writers confirm the sexuality as gay, why didn’t they put a cap on it specifically. Once someone identifies themselves I don’t argue pass that because how we deny ourselves belongs to us.
I admit that I was wrong expressing it as I did that transgender is well a gender when I’m not claiming that it’s a gender itself but the trans in front of the gender speaks on aspects that play into sexuality that has nothing to do with cis gender concepts. I’m not saying it’s bad - I’m not saying it’s good - I’m saying it exist and that’s why the word behind it is so important. That’s why for that I do apologize - to those I did and didn’t offend - because while I believe in saying what you mean and meaning what you say, if you don’t have the vocabulary or the time to express clearly what you mean on top is such as this then it probably shouldn’t be said by you at that time. I try never to shit on other people identities because that’s never my intention. Instead of expressing my ideals that yes I agree Matteo is not bisexual in the concept of being attracted to his friend (a female) but not all bisexual attraction denote to automatically include female/feminine concepts or that just because someone is transgender it does not mean there is no overlap of aspects/concepts that might place anyone (Matteo) further down the spectrum - but instead I over simplified my claim by ‘othering’ transgender people.
Okay - so the floor is y’all. We can discuss what you disagree with, what you agree with. It’s 9:30pm -I’m tired - post took me longer than it should have 😪 but I did want to understand where people who were disagreeing was coming from instead of blurting my feelings out. It’s easy to that’s what I said and that’s how I feel thus it’s valid but that’s not always the case you can cross a boundary by sharing your feelings in a way that surpasses others and their reality. Anyway that’s my post - if I don’t reply today, I will reply tomorrow.
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Double episode this week! Here is the French take on Ouija, psychics, and potatoes.
Clip 1 - Romain
This is an episode where I’m definitely missing a lot of Norwegian/French context so if I’m missing something, please feel free to elaborate or correct me.
So on the one hand I enjoy the cabin episode, it’s a lot of fun, and it’s great to get a break from the main drama and just see the girls interacting and having fun together. But is it really necessary for a remake? From my non-Norwegian perspective, I thought the cabin episode/Easter special was a spooky mystery as a nod to Norway’s tradition of reading/watching crime stories around Easter, as well as structuring an episode with our main characters when they would have been off school. It seems like it was very culturally relevant to airing at that time, in that place? Of course non-Norwegian viewers also enjoy the cabin episode even without the context, but we were not the target audience for the show.
I mean, there’s not a lot in the cabin episode that’s vital to the main storyline of the season or that can’t be transported to other clips. Really only the potato conversation between Noora and Vilde seems like something that needs to stick. Everything else - Noora getting texts from William, Vilde talking and speculating about William, Eva talking about Jonas still being into her, talk of Isak’s sexuality - has already been covered or could easily be condensed or added to another scene. Like they could have fit this into Saturday clip where the girls are sleeping over at someone’s house and end up using a Ouija board, if they wanted to include that, and a Sunday clip where they’re hanging out and Manon and Daphne talk about potatoes.
IDK, I’m not saying this is bad - again I enjoy the concept of the episode - and I know the episodes have to be like <20 minutes so it might be easier to make a cabin episode than to cram the relevant parts into the rest of episode 5.
Anyway, at least this is scenic and the girls are cute. Hat game exceptionally strong.
Lol, I have no problem with bringing Kasper (Romain) into the show but if they hook up him and Alex, I’ll be kinda bummed. Of course bi girls can be with boys, but I’ve not liked how they’ve ignored her bisexuality at times when it would be relevant to the story. Plus we already have multiple on-screen het relationships and hookups and no f/f ones through any of the Skam remakes other than Alex’s one line about Clara; if they have a female character who’s into girls, I want them to finally deliver on that, you know?
At least they found a guy to play Romain who looks like he could be a spirit. I buy it.
Clip 2 - Everyone is tired of hearing about Charles
Alex giving us the guitar playing that we lacked last episode! ❤️ I love her big sparkly sweater.
Uh, that’s a straight-up Michael Myers mask. Alex, why does your grandmother have that?
Alex being 200% done with talk of Charles … relatable.
Imane and the girls teasing Daphne about hooking up with Romain was a good bit.
“We can’t talk about feminism without talking about men’s role in it” - Mmmm … I disagree … but that’s just my opinion lmao.
Oh Daphne,making it awkward between her and Imane when their dynamic was so cute just now.
Poor Alex, going from excited to exasperated in an instant when Daphne immediately decides she can use the Ouija board to ask about Charles. She thought she would be free for five minutes...
I love that she made the board herself though!
Lol, you can’t tell me that all of the other girls wouldn’t immediately get up with Imane and go to bed as well to avoid more Charles discussion.
Clip 3 - Ouija
This is a fun scene but kinda random. For instance, Alex had flirted with Lucas before but I’m not sure why it would be on her mind now… in the other scene Vilde and Eva led up to it by asking about guys, so Chris did the same. … and kinda not sure why she doesn’t think he could be gay considering she (unlike Chris) knows about the porn on his phone. Hoping she still has a chance, I guess? (Or well, I guess her thing about it being nonsense could be her thinking he must be bi rather than gay since he’s with Sarah, but that’s not really implied.)
But I do like Manon asking about Romain and Daphne, that whole bit of teasing is fun (and you could interpret it as her wanting Daphne to move on. Though who doesn’t at this point, really.)
Emma feels less put out about the Yann situation in general than Eva was even though less time has passed between the Emma/Yann breakup. I’m not sure what to think of that. I mean, good for her, I guess?
I do really like the staging/setup of this scene, with the girls sitting around the table with the lights. That set a spooky spiritual atmosphere.
Clip 4 - Breakfast
God DAMN I would be so sick of hearing about Charles by this point. I feel Emma’s intense boredom.
I love Daphne’s fantasy about Charles coming to her in a dream like he’s in a ‘90s music video, though.
It’s pretty interesting to see how little changes in terms of what the director chooses to show can have an effect on the messages we register from a TV show. One thing Skam France needs to improve is being very, very hyper aware of those little things.
For instance, in the original we get a shot of Vilde’s sparse plate and we get a shot of Noora noticing how little Vilde is eating. Without spelling it out for us (such as Noora saying, “Vilde, there’s not much on your plate, why don’t you take some more food?”) we can connect the dots as to why Noora offers her the bun. That’s just basic cinematic language, we almost take it for granted. Here we don’t see Daphne’s plate or how much is on it, we don’t see Manon looking at Daphne’s plate with any kind of concerned expression. So when she offers Daphne the bread, there’s no clear connection within this scene for us to think Manon is worried about Daphne not eating. And because of that, when Daphne goes off on her gluten allergy, it comes across less as an excuse for her not eating, and could be just her rambling and making huge leaps much like she is about Charles, whereas with Vilde we can definitely pick it out as her trying to deflect questions about her not eating.
Clip 5 - Potatoes
The taxidermied animals are a nice touch for a spooky cabin, I must say.
I love that Alex decided Daphne will be the one to attack Romain, Alex will hide behind her, and Emma will hide behind Alex. Solid plan.
The potato scene is one where I don’t know how I would feel about it if I had not seen the original version.
The way it was acted and paced was not nearly as effective, in my opinion. What I adore about that scene is that how subtly the situation is handled. Noora doesn’t confront Vilde directly about her eating disorder; does it in a gentle way, one that will get through to Vilde (I love that the mention of antioxidants helping fight cancer is OK, but antioxidants helping against old skin is what really gets Vilde’s attention, and was a smart move on Noora’s part). Part of it is the pacing. I know we sometimes knock Noora’s slow delivery, but in this scene the unhurried pace absolutely works. Because Noora’s words are so slowly and calmly delivered, you can see them getting through to Vilde. You can see her turning over all these details about nutrition. All of the pauses between dialogue contain the information sinking into Vilde’s mind. And the pacing also emphasizes the extreme vulnerability of this conversation, how very careful Noora’s approach is, how Vilde maybe (possibly) (probably) realizes what’s going on and isn’t arguing or putting up resistance like she did when Noora was more direct about it at the end of S1, how despite Noora doing most of the talking, this still feels like a conversation between them.
This version of the scene … it’s not bad and I can imagine it working, but it’s so hurriedly paced that it feels like Manon is talking at Daphne, it’s not a two-way conversation, and I don’t feel that what Manon’s saying is getting through to Daphne at the same level.
That Romain reveal, though? Excellent.
Clip 6 - “Romain” revealed
The girls are very cute huddled together and I’m liking their dialogue. It does feel more rushed though, like it’s very enjoyable but they’re flying through it just because it was in the original. Like the line about “my hijab will protect us” is very random when Imane doesn’t tie in the hijab to her psychic powers during her explanation.
Alex and Imane hugging and kissing after the reveal! ❤️
Lol they cut out Emma talking about how some of the Ouija must have been real because of Yann having feelings for her, and the irony of her saying that when Manon is getting a text from Charles about Yann hooking up with someone else. They’re downplaying that arc a lot, tbh.
I see Manon’s little smile at that text. Whatever I feel about Charles, that’s a smooth as hell text.
General Comments:
Aside from my nitpicks and wondering if this episode is at all necessary in the French version, I did have a lot of fun with this episode. The girl squad dynamic continues to be a strength of Skam France, and there was lots of cute banter and friendship. Alex in particular got many moments to shine.
As much as I love lesbian Daphne, if they’re not going that route, I would kinda be down for her hooking up with Romain in the finale, in place of Alex. You know. As a fun fling. Get her mind off Charles. Alex can find a nice girl to smooch.
Here are some English-language articles about Norwegian Easter traditions, especially the crime stories, that gave me some context on the original episode.
http://relocation.no/expat-communities/expat-resource-articles/easter-in-norway/
https://www.thelocal.no/20180329/bloody-easter-the-origins-of-norwegian-holiday-crime-fiction
https://www.visitnorway.com/media/news-from-norway/norways-mysterious-easter-tradition/
If you got this far, thank you for reading!
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Curious Anon here: What the hells up with your idea of equality when you're so anti-poly?
There's a short answer and a longer answer to this, I think.
Short:
"Being sex-positive also means supporting those who are postive they don't want to have sex."
You can have your own opinions and morals and still support those who disagree or oppose your own. I am not against polyamory, it's just not for me.
Longer answer:
I have been witness to multiple polyamorous relationships through friends who practice them, very few are ones I believe (from an outside perspective, knowing it's their buisness and not my own) are healthy.
Two of which, I'll use as examples to further my explaination of why monogamy is for me.
(1)
I've known this male most of my life and he is a very logical and intelligent being, this matters because it plays a role in his sexual understanding. He and his girlfriend have an open and honest relationship, transparent in all of their endeavors both emotionally and physically. They are extremely comfortable with one another and seem to view life through similar lenses. I have watched as they blossomed from friends into more and grew into a core relationship with an open stance. They live together, they comfort one another with empathy and compassion but they are open to the ideas of other sexual relationships because of their personal belief that "sex is not the ultimate form of intimacy". I have questioned this relationship, my male friend willing to answer any inqires whether little thoughts or massive philosophical debates, knowing my stance on the subject. We have even conversed about whether his previous profession as a manager of a sex shop has played a role in his views on relationships or if my idealism was realistic. In my opinion, though it matters little to their relationship--as it is theirs and not mine--, they are the epitome of a healthy polyamorous relationship.
(2)
I knew this female as the closest female friend I have ever had. I knew her before she had any sexual relations, period. I was there as she discovered this new land and listened to her thoughts as she would give them, on the men who led the way. We found similarities in our jealous tendencies and emotional neediness, despite how difficult it is to admit our likenesses. I'd very much like to say for the both of us, "We are not the same." Where she is carefree of her sexual nature, I am reserved. She has worked in the sex industry; I never could fathom it for myself. I supported her in all ways that I could, even purchasing parts of an outfit she wore. This is not at tangent, as I watched her veer from my own opinions, I also watched her relationship with her husband crumble. Where my male friend's relationship thrived with open communication, her's crunched under the pressure. As she saw more men, her husband began to explore (even though he had previously not been interested) and she became denyingly jealous. Without ALL of her husband's attention, alongside that of the men she was speaking too, I watched her question her self-worth as he had. Her husband asked her to cut relationships that evoked jealousy on his part but she refused, telling him their relationship was "completely open". She complained to me that he just wanted control. Her husband was very adament about wanting to close the relationship if rules were not followed and he didn't feel respected, arguing about it even when I was around. She responded to his distance by seeking other emotional connections to fill the void she felt when he followed her suit. I know that relationships do sometimes have a falling out but this polyamorous relationship never went both ways, from the very beginning. Her husband, at first was not interested in other relations, was open to her sexual relationships until she refused to compromise. She labeled it his issue and not hers. When he was open to the idea for himself, she was not prepared for the emptiness she felt not having his full attention and filled it with other people instead of compromise. This to me is the full understanding of a toxic polyamorous relationship.
I am not against polyamory if it is like the first relationship ; I am however, against all toxic relationships including the second.
I know myself. Just like people have sexualities: gay, or straight, or bi, or pan, or even asexual, I understand what I am attracted to. Sharing sexual relations with other people while commited to one is not attractive to me even with correct communication. I embrace my characteristics of emotional neediness and jealous tendencies; I would not want to fill those with multiple people. Maybe someday I'll find someone who shares that same belief. Until then, I'd rather be alone than split my soul to be shared.
Now you may ask: have you tried it?
Do I need to murder someone to think it's morally wrong and I couldn't live with it?
Yeah, that's probably a little harsh but surface-deep it holds the same understanding.
I have had no-strings attached sex and it didn't even feel right for myself; I couldn't imagine adding someone I cared for with my whole life into that mix. Similarly, I also couldn't partake knowing someone's heart could never be mine. That there would be no "end-game" to the courtship. I am emotionally greedy.
It's completely okay if you seperate those feelings, unlike me; It is so much more than okay, if that is who you are.
However, with all of this knowledge I still stand strongly with my ideals--as Anne Frank once said "even though they seem immpossible to carry out". Unpopular opinion: I believe that polyamory is two people giving up the idea that they can be happy with one person. As I am emotionally greedy; they are physically greedy. (Do not confuse these to be toxic traits, either one is acceptable by the right personality and correct communication.)
So, I identify with monogamy and support those in healthy polyamorous relationships --without taking part.
P.s. A big thanks to my male friend who understands my opinion versus my female friend who always dismissed my inquries as judgement.
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I'm not saying that you're wrong or that I disagree but why do you think that Sehun is bi?
Well, I just feel Sehun doesn’t have a specific gender he acquires too. If that makes sense? I’ve seen him say things about both males and females the way you’d hear a heterosexual talk about the opposite gender. I take in the times he has spoken on women, and as of late he just said what he’s attracted to with no gender. So I’ve also found the way he treats both or comes off is sometimes as attracted to both, with the possibility of liking one a bit more. I’ve personally from what I know of Sehun as a fan, never seen him strictly attracted to women or men. I’ve also just seen him as someone that has an attraction to all, and anyone that fits what he enjoys and likes.
I know people take into account as him as a confirmed homosexual due to Baekhyun’s words, and him saying I like men, or him being a confirmed heterosexual because of his celebrity crushes, and like girls on IG or the “playboy” rumor mess, but did anyone just think perhaps he’s just a bisexual man? I mean Bi-Sexuals exist and it’s possible to like both, and have a stronger like for one, but still, be attracted to another gender. You know?
He also could be asexual and or pansexual. With what Baek said.
I just extremely get that from him. Like if you ever just pay attention to how he speaks, Sehun is way more intelligent than what people give him credit for. Also, highly self-aware about the world around himself.
No, Sehun hasn’t told me this lol. It’s just things I’ve noticed in him over 5 years. I feel he’s just now since as of last year is more of “Oh Sehun” and not “EXO’s Oh Sehun” if that makes sense. Like I pick up more on his character as of late, and that has a lot to do with how he’s speaking more.
People are so set on him being one or the other when for a long ass time I’ve never viewed him as a person to just subject himself to one thing. He’s really grown and matured lovely. I’m so proud of his growth as a man, and I feel most people just look past a lot of what he does as cute, and don’t see the man before them. I’ve picked up on a lot he speaks about. There was this interview he did last year, that spoke volumes to me like the EX’act Monster and Lucky one interviews.
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Q: How would you explain something that you like because it’s been a long time with it, and something that you like because it’s new?
Sehun: I think of new things as something that I get to experience and be enlightened by. As for old things, what I learn from them will become feelings and memories and that way, I can remember them. To be specific, it would be human relationships. I think relationships are the most important in life. With humans, the more you see each other, the more you become fond of the other, don’t you? The process of getting close with someone is fun. It’s the same with new things. If you meet someone new, you will obviously have things to learn from them, there will be things you get to gain and on the other hand, you will have an influence on that person. I think those kind of things are fun.
Q: When did you experience the broadening of your outlook on the world?
Sehun: I like things that are eye-openers, I like learning, I like experiencing, and I said that I enjoy coming upon new things. And so I am the type to try everything. That way, I can inform the people that I like and I can be of help. When people say they’ll do something, I can recount my experience and that will help them. I think that also includes how I see the world. So I think I will challenge all kinds of things.
Q: What is a moment that you wish to have in your life?
Sehun: Um, I hope to have a very touching moment. I’m really looking forward to that moment. What it is specifically, I am also uncertain, but I wish to have a touching moment that renders me speechless. I think it is impossible to feel touched if you don’t like that person. When you think of someone you really like, when you were once touched by that person or because they did something that touched you, that is when you are able to come up with plans to make them feel touched. Surprise is also incorporated in the sentiment of feeling touched, isn’t it. Because if there is no element of surprise, you cannot feel touched.
Q: What is the compass in your life?
Sehun: How should I explain this. If there is a road straight forward or backward, and if there is a road on my left and right as well as side roads, I will take the side roads. There are pros and cons of side roads. Side roads are fresh and they’re not complete. Also, there is something you can experience from it. As with the common straight roads ahead, because there are already many information on it, I know that there might not be things I want to try experiencing. However, as for the side roads, people who have not gone through them don’t know what they hold. And though it cannot be gauranteed, I might be able to be a bit more comfortable and be able to go faster, and it will be fun. The con is that there are many bends. Extremely many. And if you’re not careful, you might end up at the start and go the straight road ahead instead, you might not keep walking the same road too. So you need to be wise with your choice of roads. You’ll learn and experience many things, I think you need to rely on and go with people who make the the environment great. If I can only handle being wise, I will be able to safely and enjoyably cross that bend while living a dynamic life. I think being an EXO member isn’t all straight roads and within that, I want to have more dynamic experiences, do a lot more, know more things, help the people around me and learn from each other. I want to live that way.
cr: http://103oclock.tumblr.com/post/145669302873/full-trans-sehun-exact-lucky-one-interview
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Q: Are you type to believe in chance, or are you the type to believe in the inevitable?
Sehun: I think there are both. In human relationships, I think you can’t estimate when chance will come. It looks for you when you’re not thinking about anything. I don’t know about the inevitable
http://103oclock.tumblr.com/post/145669608868/full-trans-sehun-exact-monster-interview
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I suggest reading his whole interviews around late 2015 to now. I just would love to hear him talk, he really has such a beautiful and intelligent perspective on life. I spoke about this on my blog last year too. He does bring up women (once), but I don’t take that as he’s just hetero. Also, his Diary for the war was short and telling to me as well.
He said things along the lines of being more honest and more of himself. Yes, that could mean anything, but still. I feel he’s perhaps bi-sexual.
I could be looking too much into nothing, but however these are just my feelings on the matter, and as long as Sehun is happy despite who he identifies as or not, he’s an amazing soul that I wish more people would listen to.
#exo#anonymous#Anon#asked#Sehun#?#biseuxal#asexual#pansexual#heterosexual#homosexual#i know this means not a lot to people but I feel his actions and words speaks a lot#and yes i could just be reading too much in to thing#but consider this perhaps w.e sehun is what it is he can be w.e he wants#as long as the boy is happy#and i don't need to throw hands#im happy
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