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sleepyagent · 8 months ago
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Its ok, I know the door is closed
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hearts401 · 1 year ago
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"do NOT ask me about ggy or patient 46 because i WILL begin ranting"
You see, I am incapable of ever listening to anyone, ever, so I must ask about GGY and patient 46
I have absolutely no knowledge of modern FNaF lore; I have not read any of the books (something I plan to fix whenever my bank account stops bleeding) so you're gonna have to do some heavy lifting here and tell me all about it
Ooh boy rubs my hands together
okay so im gonna start with ggy because i love Tony and Ellis. (i dont have the book in front of me tho so this isnt gonna be 100% every detail)
GGY is about a kid named Tony Becker who has an assignment in his 6th grade english class. He has to write a fictional mystery with side plots that tie into the main plot. He chooses to do this with his two friends. They use pen names whenever they do their english projects together (sobs and wails and cries into my hands) and Tony picked Tarbell, and his friends were Boots and Dr. Rabbit (or Rab for short).
Tony wants to start working on their project, but Boots and Rab want to go to the fazcade. Tony gives in when rab backs up boots (tony sees boots as immature and worries about outgrowing him and hanging out more with rab) tony wanders around the fazcade trying to find inspo, and then notices someone named GGY with top scores on some of the games. when he asks other people about it, they tell him the scores are seemingly impossible, but when he asks a staff member, he's told they haven't been hacked.
At some point he makes an online blog to ask about it and a girl he'd talked to in the fazcade asks him to meet her. she tells him that she thinks this is more than just high scores, and that he should stay out of it.
Oh also freddy keeps watching tony and at some point begins following him.
Tony finds out that GGY has a hacked party pass (or it was like a fun pass or smth) that gives them access to much more than it should, working almost like a security card.
Tony then finds out one of the school counselors has gone missing, and he sneaks into the librarian's office to learn more about it. he finds out two other counselors have also gone missing, all of them having gone to the pizzaplex before disappearing.
tony writes his paper and gives it to Rab and Boots to look over, and when they come back the next day, they've changed it into a fantasy story. And GGY is labled as the wizard's favorite apprentice, rather than someone getting high scores on arcade games.
tony is upset with rab and boots and begins calling htem by their actual names.
Rab is Greg, Boots is Ellis.
tony is also in trouble for sneaking into the librarian's office and using her laptop, so he has detention shelving books.
Greg come and offers to take him to the pizzaplex when he's done, and it's kind of implied he killed him there.
again i have bad memory and i dont have the book in front of my so anyone can feel free to correct anythign i got wrong or missed
now onto patient 46 who's from the therapy tapes in sb.
this'll be undeniably easier because i can just listen to the tapes. patient 46 is also not confirmed to be gregory, its just a theory, so im just gonna call them 46.
its important to note that 46 does not speak.
everything here is things implied to have been nonverbally communicated to the therapist.
Tape 2:
It starts with the therapist talking about how the day is nice, but 46 doesnt like the light, so the therapist draws the blinds. she then comments on how 46 is not talking to her today, and says that she gets reviews from patients, and when 46 doesn't let her help them, she gets bad reviews. she tells 46 she could get in trouble and get put in timeout, which 46 finds funny.
Tape 4:
New therapist is here, she asks if 46 is going to talk to her, and they dont reply. she asks whats wrong, and they gesture to the flowers. the therapist comments on them being particularly fragrant and moves them. The therapist then comments on 46 staring at something, and says they're "amazingly alert." she says shed like to have 46 tell her about themself, but 46 does not. the therapist instead chooses to look through their notes. she also comments on the chair not fitting 46, but its not specified if its too big or too small. she then asks if 46 is bothered by a new therapist, but 46 doesnt seem surprised or confused at all. the therapist says shes surprised by whats in 46's notes. she says they have a "rebellious side" and a knack for computers, and explains the word phenom to them. the tape ends with her asking if 46 considers themself a hacker
tape 6:
new therapise again! she tells 46 shes already read their files and knows what theyve worked on. 46 asks for a candy, and she gives one to them, taking one for herself as well. she says she wants to start with 46's parents, and claims it was tragic but she doesnt think 46 has processed it emotionally. she says they wrote it like they had read it off of a book. (her exact words are they wrote an objective rather than a subjective narrative, but 46 didnt know what that meant.) she says 46 spends a lot of time alone and is good at self-dialogue, which she explains is "asking urself questions and getting answers" she tells them to try asking themself how they feel about what happened to them. she tells them to let themself be upset about it so they can let it go.
tape 8:
same therapist as 6! she asks 46 if theyve thought about what they talked about. 46 had told them their past had made them sad and scared. the therapist asks if they had written down exactly what made them feel that way. she then says she works with many people who respond to tragedy differently. she asks 46 if their fantasies would be different had this tragedy not happened to them.
Tape 13:
new therapist again! she says when shes getting to know a client, she likes to find out abt their hobbies. when she doesnt get a reply, she asks if they like sports. 46 tells her they like to watch sports, but not play them. and that they like to stay inside. the therapist then reluctantly tells 46 that their previous therapists have gone missing. except one who was found dead, and they said her body looked to be mangled by machinery. the therapist also comments that 46 doesn't look concerned about it. she jokes about watching her back, which 46 finds funny.
Tape 14:
same therapist as 13. she asks if 46 knows about the pizzaplex, and says the technicians who work there know them. theyve seen what they think is 46 on the security cameras. they say 46 was accused of hacking their systems. the therapist says that the hacks are causing tons of problems, but that there's no solid proof it was 46, and 46 finds it funny that the techs are having issues. she says she finds it weird that 46 would spend time in such a busy, crowded place despite their loner attitude. she asks if its the electronics that 46 likes. she also says theyve designed programs that talk to them and repeat phrases. she says it asks them questions and prompts for responses, like their own little therapist. she said at first she had thought they were talking to themself, but it seems more like they were talking to someone else. she asks who it was.
Tape 15:
same therapist as 13+14. she starts with asking if 46 wants to do an ink blot test. she shows them an image, and 46 asks to hold it. 46 says it reminds them of a mask. the therapist asks if 46 likes the idea of being disguised, and how they make you invisible. she says being invisible lets you get away with anything, and asks 46 if they like that idea. she then moves on to something else, telling 46 that it seems theyve been talking to someone else. she says the techs think that its someone trying to lure 46 away, or manipulate them. the therapist moves to where she can see 46's eyes, and says she got something different from the communications. she accuses 46 of manipulating someone, rather than being manipulated. she says they were recorded on the security cameras with someone else. she says that it looks like the person theyre with has rabbit ears, which 46 finds amusing.
Tape 16:
Same therapist as 13+14+15. she says shes gotten another message from the pizzaplex that says that theres a glitch in the system that makes the animatronics more eerie than entertaining. she says the glitch spread system-wide and infected all the machines. she also says it was traced back to 46. she says the glitch broadcasted a dangerous message. she also says that when the techs were trying to fix it, the source shifted. she says that the glitch changed from a glitch and became a set of sub-routines that were made to do exactly what the glitch was doing. (which basically means it stopped just being a glitch and became part of the system?? i think?? idk shit abt computers bruh) when 46 does not reply, she presses, saying she is on their side and wont tell anyone what is told to her during the session and that the techs have no proof it was 46, so theyre not in trouble. when 46 doesnt reply still, she brings up their past. 46 refuses to look at her, but she continues. she says it doesnt matter if they look at the floor, because nothing they told her about their parents was true. she says they had great parents, and a great childhood. she asks 46 why they lied, and tells them to look at her. she then says she understands why 46 would be upset about the confrontation, and says they can come back to this another day. the last line she says is "you're shaking your head like that's not going to happen."
UHM YEAH IM NORMAL ABOUT THEM LOL.
i have a lot of thoughts on both of these parts and i personally believe 46 is Gregory. but if i dumped all my thoughts we'd be here all day so have this long ass explanation instead
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kriegertops · 9 months ago
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The podcast revealed several important things:
This was not some long-time-coming split. Ali would not speak so openly about being hurt if that was the case. She would be saying other things, and her phrasing wouldn't be so vulnerable. Unlike the trash stans, I do not think she is trying to play the victim at all in this saga. Who wants to be portrayed as having been left and humiliated? No one. She did not want, nor thought they would get divorced. That much is very clear.
The timeline trash and SB tried to put forth is completely bogus. They were flirting/communicating/plotting from June on. Ash had completely checked out of the marriage- all the podcasts and appearances together support that. She was 1,000 miles away in her head, and it was written all over her face and in her actions.
AH didn't leave her family, but in a way she very much did. She did not fight at all for her partner of 13 years and her two precious kids- she fell for SB, and instead of taking stock of all that she had built, taking real time to go to therapy, see how things shook out post retirement for Ali, she completely jumped ship for a potential partner who could bankroll and support her desired lifestyle. There is no other way to spin this.
Ali has all the support of their mutual friends and family. And it is so clear why. The hot mess that was dumped in her lap as she's trying to retire, facing her ex's new relationship endlessly in the media, and trying to be a present and involved parent- she handled every bit of this with class, grace and dignity. If I were friends with both, and I watched this all go down, I would have ZERO respect left for AH, and I would be kissing the ground Ali walks on. She could have chosen to be bitter, angry and petty, and she went the complete opposite direction. She's risen above it all and, as a result, seems poised to launch into a calmer, better life.
Just when I think I can't dislike AH any more than I do, something new comes along to keep setting the bar lower.
Anon thank you for sending this! You really put into words what I have been thinking as well! This is such a great breakdown of a lot of what’s gone on and is continuing to happen
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reluctanttrabbit · 7 months ago
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Now I'm so curious does phone dude ever contact Ness or realise somethings off? Like even after the events of sb does he know what she's been through 😭 like if he's her bro could it relate to the one of note in sb where it goes like because he knows somethings off with Vanessa because their Sibling bond he tries calling?
"SECURITY REPORT - A local police officer came by tonight. He said he was responding to an emergency call from someone inside the Pizzaplex. There is no way that is possible. I was the only one here and I certainly didn't make any outside calls. He wanted to look around, but I sent him away. Just another prank call. - Vanessa" sorry I'm thinking phones and calls." (Then again this kinda could be someone else tbh idk if he'd be in the building and not manage to find her)
Or does he think Ness is trying to cut him off if she goes no contact? Like oh shit she doesn't want anything at all to do with this family anymore! Just wanna know the general dynamic between them I'm invested fr
i actually never figured out a name for him yet so im just gonna call him dude so i can stop saying "vanessas brother" LMAO
when vanessa finally moved out, she promised to keep in touch with dude and tell him how her job was going. most of her updates were boring, but it was just to let him know she was ok.
until one point where vanessa stopped updating.
dude texted and called, but vanessa wouldn't reply. and if dude knew anything about their dad, he knew what their dad would do to vanessa since she ran away all those years ago.
dude drives over to the vr office to prove they're related and ask where she is (dont ask if thats realistic just pretend 😓😓) he gets a hold of the address for her new apartment and drives over, and vanessa greets him with.... a smile? invites him in? like nothing happened?
vanessa tells him all about how the job has been and dude cant help but blow up at her because he was like deathly worried about her and vanessa doesn't get why. everything is fine! im fine! they fight back and forth until dude gives up and storms out of her apartment. this is the last time they've spoken
ALSO this is around the time that the AR emails take place, and the week before vanessa gets transferred over to the pizzaplex (emails/therapy tapes) and glitchtrap makes sure they have no contact with each other because dude is gonna get in their way
and even AFTER post-sb vanessa is wary to call him because 1. they last talked to each other fighting, 2. she doesn't want to endanger her brother in case glitchtrap is still somewhere in her mind and 3. she has to protect gregory + freddy and work on mxes to stop the mimic
soooo yeah ☹️☹️ maybe in another universe they'd still be in contact. maybe she would have told him. idk idk
(or maybe dude saw the pizzaplex fire + earthquake on the news and finally decided to look for vanessa again. who knowwwwws)
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1ris5starlight · 4 months ago
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that-darn-clown · 4 months ago
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thought about Sammy, Mike, and their kids in the Rewrite. so have the kids asking what would normally be innocent questions, while their dads try to keep themselves from traumadumping on their children!
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Cassie: Dad, how come I've never met Aunt Charlotte or Grandpa? You and Uncle Mike talk about them all the time. :(
Sammy:
Sammy: Uh...I'll tell you when you're older, sweetheart.
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Cassie: Dad, I keep meeting this girl in my dreams!! She looks like she's around Cam's age and she looks like me!! She calls herself "Charlie," too!! I think I'm talking to Auntie Charlie, Dad!! :D :D
Sammy: Oh, that's...That's lovely, sweetie... (< screaming internally for Multiple reasons)
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Gregory: Dad, the yellow bear you gave me is randomly talking to me. :/
Mike: ...Oh, well...that's a little weird! Hm! That shouldn't happen! (< Also screaming internally)
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Gregory: Dad, why do you randomly call me 'Cassidy?'
Mike:
Mike: Well, uh...I'm just calling you by your middle name! Yep! Nothing else!
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Gregory: Hey, whose room and toys were these?
Jeremy: Uh...one of your uncles'.
Gregory: ...Which one?
Mike and Jeremy: ...
Mike: Hey, who wants to head to the diner-?
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and then you've got the difference in how Mike and Jeremy talk with Cameron (who's closer to 11-12 by the time HW and SB happen):
Cameron: Dad, why is my middle name 'Liz?'
Jeremy, doing dishes: Because Mike had a little sister named Elizabeth. We all called her "Liz," though.
Cameron: ...Why are you using past tense?
Jeremy: Why do you think you've never met your Aunt Liz?
Cameron: ...Oh.
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Cam: Okay, so I've noticed something. Uncle Sammy talks about his dad all the time. Pops* takes us to go visit Mimaw and Papa all the time. Why is it whenever Dad's dad gets brought up, we change the subject?
Mike: Because, to be frank, my father sucked.
Cam: ...How badly?
Jeremy: Why do you think all of us are in therapy?
Cam: ...Point made.
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Cam: So, whose room did Greg get?
Mike and Jeremy, simultaneously: Cassidy's.
Cam: ...Cassidy?
Mike: My baby brother who was gone too soon.
Cam: ...Y'know what? I think I know enough from that.
(* Greg and Cam call Jeremy and Mike something different so to not confuse them. Mike is "Dad" and Jeremy is "Pops.")
Real shit
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artzychic27 · 1 year ago
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How would Scarlet Beetle Ms Bustier react to canon Ms Bustier?
SB&IB!Mme. Bustier: … Let me get this straight. Your Chloé… The class bully, ruined your Marinette’s gift… And you expect Marinette to forgive her?
Canon!Mme. Bustier: Well, of course. Chloé just needs to be shown the love her parents-
SB&IB!Mme. Bustier: No! What that girl needs is some one on one therapy, not a free pass that says, “Oh, what you did was fine! Keep doing whatever you want, because everyone will forgive you!” You’re helping to raise a- I don’t even know! But that is not the way to treat kids like Chloé! Yes, her parents never gave her love, and that’s their fault! Your students are not obligated to coddle and downplay her treatment of them!
Canon!Mme. Bustier: Well, Chloé’s been getting better-
SB&IB!Mme. Bustier: Tell that to the dozens of people who were injured on the train she crashed! And another thing? Why do you never punish the instigators?!
Canon!Mme. Bustier: Excuse me?!
SB&IB!Mme. Bustier: I’ve looked at your incident reports, and they’re a bit sus, lady.
Canon!Mme. Bustier: Now, you listen here-
SB&IB!Mme. Bustier: No, you listen here! You are not fit to be a teacher! You’re toxic, and students don’t need people like you in their lives! Someone who makes them think that them getting beat up is somehow their faults! You are an embarrassment to those in the education field!
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valleyfthdolls · 8 months ago
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I know you have the vaguest idea of what happens in ggy (pretty sure you've read a summary??) but let's say Scott emails you for a once in a life time opportunity where you get to rewrite it for fun, what would you change about it
(Yeah I’ve read a summary, at some point I gotta read the actual story but uhh Not Today)
Discarding the opportunity to simply delete it and walk away, because I want to actually entertain this idea, there are two ways I would go, I think.
One: GGY becomes VNY. Make it a story about Vanny’s corruption to put her back in the spotlight. I made a short fic on my Ao3 I’m not gonna promo here that’s similar to this, but a more in-depth version. Luis would work great as Vanny’s Tony Becker. The story takes place in an office building instead of at school, and VNY is the mysterious hacker revealed to be killing off everyone who gets close to the truth. Princess Quest connections and allegories would be EVERYWHERE. Slowly it begins to eat away at Luis, who becomes paranoid and anxious when handling technology, and eventually even develops a fear of things as simple as rabbits as it just gets deep under his skin. What the replacement for the story that Tony, Greg and Ellis are writing is I’m not sure. Maybe some sort of a tech project Vanny sabotages last second and then she plays upset, is all I’m so sorry Luis I don’t know what happened, I was trying to add my finishing touches and it just seemed like everything I changed made it worse, if you want you could come over to my place and we could talk about how to fix it over dinner and some drinks? and Luis is blindsided by Vanny actually returning his interest and doesn’t even think that he could be getting lured.
Two: Just make some tweaks to the overall plot to make it suck less. Mainly, if GGY is a Glitchtrap follower, make that obvious. Maybe his friends see him talking to things that aren’t there, that kind of thing. Make him more insecure about handling tech because in SB he obviously does not know what he’s doing. Reference something going on with his parents. Maybe they’re dead, maybe they die during the story, idc. I want Gregory to be clearly troubled in some way. Make the therapists actually be therapists because clearly, clearly, Scott Cawthon does not know the difference. Simple guide: therapists work with schools. School counselors also work with schools. However, therapists are therapists who work in other places and school counselors are not. Plus, as I calculated at one point, 79 biweekly therapy sessions would equate to about three years in therapy. Assuming they’re weekly, that would make it like a year and a half. This would require them to be going on outside of school as well. So it makes a lot more sense if it’s actual therapists who have multiple clients attending the school. Would I still hate it? Yeah, but I’d have a much easier time liking it if it was better written and actually fit Gregory’s character instead of trying to warp him into the Patient 46 mold.
Or, a fucked up and sad extra third option that only fits my own AU: imply that Gregory is not actually doing any of this, but is instead intentionally making himself look sinister to muddy the truth about who’s behind the hacking and… murders. Because someone he loves is behind it and he’s trying to protect them. (Specifically, in my AU, this would be Valentine/Vanny. His older sister and one of his only friends. He really, really believes in saving her, and trying to protect her from what she’s doing under this control would be in line with that.)
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lesser-mook · 6 months ago
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"Who are some incel characters in media?"
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First ones to mind that abuses power, socially awkward, all underrated: 
-Hal Stewart from Megamind
-Andrew from Chronicle
-Carrie from Carrie 1976
-Brandon Breyer (Tho he's probably the youngest on the list. It's inappropriate to label him as Incel *Carrie too, for him we'll say he never had a girlfriend, but he possessed the red flags of one and in the future story, probably will be.)
& Superboy-Prime👑 (painfully underrated, DC needs to finally abandon that garbage character Kara Bore-El and finally get SB-P in a movie saga, a game as a playable villain, animated show at minimum and nothing less) *The fact that Batman who laughs came before him in DCUO, HOLY SHIT what a waste and what neglect
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TALES OF THE SINESTRO CORPS: SUPERMAN-Prime (For anyone who want to get an entry point to the character, there's your window)✅
Point being:
They all were vulnerable kids that got too much power at the wrong time & or lost too much at once that triggered the fall. They didn't start out evil, they weren't naturally bad, just not ready, not stable, inadequate or neglected,  some even abused.
What If? A volatile Peter Parker got superpowers
Outside events escalating around them combined with their own dramatized inadequacies as people created their fall as villains. Not out of ambition but inadequacy given too much power where therapy & healthy relationships should've been.
Stewart specifically only ended up with power because he was being manipulated by someone else in the first place, promised glory, and got disappointed (mainly due to him having zero charisma & little social awareness): And in that disappointment he lashed out and made bad decisions.
He could've forced himself on Roxie, he could've even held her prisoner/Hostage/ enslaved or tormented her in a PG-13 Fashion like stalking or destroying her home *knowing where it is;
But he left her alone, the ONLY reason she ended up in his sights again is because she went to him to reason with him.
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It says a lot about him that he didn't physically do anything to her initially or didn't so much as kidnap her, but he did rob a bank and just went home to play video games. That's it.
It only escalated, yet again, because Megamind antagonized Hal because he wanted his glory days fix. 
The same selfishness that uprooted Hals life and created Titan in the first place, but Megamind got the happy ending. Most people don't really meditate enough on that fact.
And notice how them being incels comes second to their tragedy, I didn't even need to label them that to make the point. Outside of this question, Its not even necessary to describe them or label them as such despite the fact that they are involuntarily celibate even post-upgrade, despite being gods, their story is more relevant to them than the label. 
That's why they work as "incel" characters.
Out of the 5 only 1 of them managed to loosely, painstakingly redeem himself.
Just one.
The worst one.
Only one. 
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stabbitrabbit · 7 months ago
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tell me about Vanny🫵
HEHEHE VANNY TIME >:D
fav thing abt her: her silly fun whimsical design and the silly fun whimsical personality i gave her bc steel wool gave her like nothing
least fav thing: see above
favorite line: she doesn’t have many but i’m a big fan of her monologue in the original SB trailer, specifically “it was just a glitch” with her voice glitching
brOTP: she’s homies with moon, i don’t make the rules. red eyes gang
OTP: i. hm. canon vanny? fuckin peace and quiet HAKSHDJ. duo au vanny? nessa <3 they’re doomed and toxic yuri but they’re delightful (vanny and nessa are TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE in duo au)
nOTP: luis. don’t put her with luis please. he comes across weird to me plus lesbian vanny is real in my heart
random headcanon: originally she used to get super motion sick when testing help wanted! after glitchtrap got in her brain she doesn’t get motion sickness anymore :3
unpopular opinion: this is a scalding hot take that is the whole reason i made the duo au. vanny and vanessa should’ve been DIFFERENT PEOPLE. it was way too obvious that vanny and vanessa were the same person, i thought a misdirection/false accusation of the nightguard would’ve been such a cool twist
song i associate with them: there’s SO MANY her playlist is like over 60 songs dude. any of the nightcove songs (therapy, for you, follow you), copycat by billie eilish, teeth by 5SOS, be nice to me by the front bottoms, all the things she said by tatu,,,, so so many vanny songs
favorite picture of them: this one bc it’s this accounts pfp and i used it on discord for a while, it’s so bright and colorful and it has a penelope scott reference,,,, credit to ForumTrashBin on reddit!
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wixibaby · 2 years ago
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Okay, but where is the 30 pages long explanation for Bennett and Chloe in RUIN ? What even is happening in your AU with SB ? What is Ben doing ? Is Cassidy still here ?
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Okay okay here we go here is part 1 of answering months old asks in my inbox!!!!! yippee!!!!!
Okay this does include a lot of preface stuff but I promise it ties together and makes it less confusing
Also obligatory tw for child death
I wanted to include Security Breach somehow in my au but it didn't fit anywhere. (the series took an unfavorable scifi turn with remnant in Sister Location so I just cut that all out and kept to the paranormal stuff) The lore in Security Breach is riddled with remnant and too much scifi stuff for my taste so I decided to merge it with the fnaf 2 location.
After Bennett's death, Henry, as bad as he felt for William, wanted to take a completely different turn with the company in order to save the good reputation Fredbear's had established. This involved throwing a ton of money at replacing Fredbear's with a massive second location: Freddy Fazbear's Pizza. The building was gigantic and expensive and flaunted new animatronics with the latest technology. (which was kinda advanced for the mid to late 80s but William was a robot genius)
During the week of his 18th birthday in 1985, Michael packed up his stuff, gathered as much money as he could, and moved to Montana in the dead of night to get away from his father. He'd been there for some 2 years before he came back to Utah with the suspicion that something awful had happened while he was gone. He had come to the resolution that if he didn't return to Utah that he'd never be able to come to terms with what he did and make things right.
Enter Gregory: a 12 year old boy who had been in and out of foster care since he was 6, but ran away some time ago and was living on the streets. He would break into Freddy Fazbear's Pizza in the night when it was cold and when he was really hungry.
Michael had gotten a job as a nighttime mechanic at Freddy Fazbear's Pizza (he was really there to investigate what he had such a bad feeling about) and encountered Gregory, who had broken in and gotten lost, on his first night on the job. In exchange for Gregory's help Michael promised to protect him. Gregory's help was pretty much little tasks, one of which was winding the music box. The music box was something Henry (Michael's interviewer) gave to him. He said there was an animatronic that could only be subdued with the music box and if it wasn't asleep "all Hell would break loose." Gregory bumped into a staircase rail and dropped the music box, breaking it, and unleashing the Marionette.
Shenanigans with Michael and Gregory and the robots ensue and Michael is confronted with what looked like Bennett, donning the same mask the Marionette wears. Cassidy (and holy shit Cassidy is so involved in this) snatches up Gregory to an unknown location in the building.
Chloe wanted closure. She had been to therapy for over 4 years to either reconcile with or unsee what she had seen in 1983, but therapy wasn't really doing it for her. She needed actual closure she could experience and not just talk about, so she broke into Freddy Fazbear's Pizza and encountered Marie, who had to spend the night in the building after losing a bet. She is terrified of ghosts so she latches onto Chloe.
They find Michael deep searching every last inch of Fazbear's looking for Gregory. He seems upset at first but then he sees Chloe and he's like "omg haiiiiiii Chloe long time no see," and tells her about Gregory and how he's missing and is kinda freaking out. Chloe agrees to help him only because she feels bad for Gregory and on the condition that he does not try to be her friend because she very much does not like him. Michael and Chloe become allies in mission "Rescue Gregory" with Marie using her Fazwatch to communicate with Gregory.
That's kinda where I'm at atm. The former half with the FNaF 2 location and Security Breach's location essentially being the same place is waaay more fleshed out but I need the actual DLC before I can cut out the crap I don't like lol
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dovahkiin796 · 1 year ago
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I will be honest. I'm not really fan of Princess Quest becoming part of the lore of Help Wanted and Security Breach. It raises too many questions how it works in-universe. Like,
1: Why does beating the game free Vanessa of her brainwashing?
2: Why is her brainwashing linked to this game?
3: And how did Glitchtrap do it exactly?
In GGY we learn Gregory's also under Glitchtrap's control, and he used the same method on him like with Vanessa. Throughout the story Tony tries to find GGY and ask him how he is able to get such high scores. With the knowledge we get by playing Security Breach. We know by beating Princess Quest frees Vanessa. So, we're able to piece together that Gregory is able to wiggle himself just a little out of his brainwashing and try to find and beat the game that has him under Glitchtrap's control.
Now that's actually something not unique to Gregory. In one of the e-mails of Special Delivery. We get hints of Vanessa also wiggling free of her brainwashing and trying to ask for help.
Hey, Ness,
Just a quick FYI - I know I mentioned trigger words, but the AI is actually a little more sophisticated than that, and of course there are people like me watching the system, too.
So, the word compliance by itself isn't going to set off any red flags, but the sentence how to induce compliance in human subjects, and how to induce self-compliance(?) did actually get my attention. (I think the answer might involve chocolate chip cookies? Always works on me.)
I also thought it was strange that these were immediately followed by searches that couldn't possibly have any relevant answers for you. Did you search for 'help' by itself?
Anyway, my offer still stands if you want to go over the company policy. I'm free any day after work - we could grab dinner or coffee if you want. In meantime you might want to do some of your more... interesting research at home.
-Luis
Now I'm very likely going to sound like an idiot for saying this. But I actually don't understand the whole "compliance" thing. As it's never brought back up after this e-mail. I have two theories.
1: It's Glitchtrap trying to find better methods to keep Vanessa brainwashed and he is using her login information to find it. So, Luis thinks it's her.
2: It's Vanessa trying to learn how to brainwash someone else so she can have her own follower.
The former is the most likely, but the latter can also be as well. If it is the latter. That would've made the mystery of who's under the white rabbit costume more of a mystery and have people guessing. It could also better justify why Vanessa can be out of costume and do her security guard job. While "Vanny" is doing something else at the same time. It could've been a Ghostface situation like in the Scream franchise (save for Scream 3).
And that could've been the twist and we would have felt sympathy for the woman who was either kidnapped or lured by Vanessa and then brainwashed to be her assistant in her plans to bring Glitchtrap back into the physical world.
But we know that's not the case. Vanessa and Vanny are the same person (NOT split personality). And because of that it makes it obvious as the two can't be in the same room together at the same time.
The self-compliance thing is obvious. Vanessa was looking for ways to make sure she would stay in control of her own actions. Possibly with trigger words or images of things she likes. However, this does be the question how much Vanessa is aware of her actions.
I don't like the idea of her blacking out and everything she does for Glitchtrap is done in a trance. It absolves her of her crimes.
But regardless this ends up going nowhere as I said above. As Steel Wool seemed to ignore a lot of these e-mails and chose to only acknowledge a select few. Even then there are some changes to them from what we get from Vanessa's therapy sessions we can listen to in SB.
Now this does back to Princess Quest despite it seemed like I went off course. Princess Quest was a bonus mini-game to the in/out of universe mobile port version of Help Wanted. Games only get ports to other consoles, PCs, or mobile devices when the original version is released first to the platform it was intended to be released for. So, Princess Quest came later in the timeline and Special Delivery makes no mention of it. Not even in the scrapped e-mails.
This shows that Steel Wool was in charge what happened in the story more so than Illumix. Illumix could add and expand it, but Steel Wool had the final say what was canon or not. So, I wouldn't use MOST of the e-mails in SD for any stories you want write that takes place during or slightly after Help Wanted.
But that does go back to the how's and why's of Princess Quest being the game that's binding Vanessa to Glitchtrap. It leaves this gap of time for Vanessa before the mobile version of Help Wanted in these unnecessary levels of vagueness.
It also doesn't make sense that you need to beat three Princess Quests to free Vanessa. We never learn what was Gregory's arcade game and we never learn if there was more than one. Plus, it's unknown if his method to be free was by getting almost impossible high scores or beating the game. As GGY implies his arcade game can be played by anyone in the Fazcade.
I liked it better of Princess Quest being a metaphor for Vanessa's story of being brainwashed into being Glitchtrap's follower.
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lightningandfireinmybones · 2 years ago
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Taking a long break from my short studying session, regarding the whole Sugar daddy au...
They've been together for a while when one random day Daemon appears, he has many connections and has been informed that they've seen his daughter with his wife's brother. So he shows up without having bothered to reconcile with val only to accuse her for this relationship (the same one he has with Rhaenyra). Val thinks he knows about the SD aspect of it and while arguing with him spills the beans and Daemon almost gets a stroke and a few heart attacks (the whole point of sending her away was to get her to stop acting up with some tough love).
So very angry at the idea that his daughter his very precious daughter to whom he doesnt know how to express his love is getting railed by her uncle -he thinks Aemond is a twat- and ALSO is that man's s/b he acts up. They get into a shouting match and he yells that he's disinheriting her (and she was the number one person on his will, she was the heir of their family estate and funds and businesses).
Val is furious and sad and dejected and just can't believe how her own family would treat her this way. She feels done with everything.
And then Aemond shows up, very involved in her feelings on this. After he comforts her he presents her with a jewelry box. At first she's not really into it (she's never been one for shopping therapy or material things and Daemon's insults are still a bit raw) but Aemond opens the box and shows her a beautiful plain necklace.
It's made from Valyrian steel he says. You know how rare it is. Only their family has it and even that is scarce. He puts it on her and says that noone can take her heritage away from her, noone can erase her trueself. She is Targaryen just like him and she should be proud of who she is.
There are maybe tears happening.
(bonus points if rhae rhae bites Daemon's head off for talking to their little girl like that because how dare he! That nonsense has gone on for too long she just wants her only daughter back home!)
ANGSTY I LOVE IT
now valaena assumes when daemon shows up unannounced that it's about the sugar baby thing, bc why else would her estranged father bother to barge back into her life???
except,,, nope he definitely did not know about that part, he was really just trying to track her down again
and daemon and valaena's fatal flaw together will always be their pride and their stubborness, so daemon was really just planning to retrieve valaena bc if she's going to be with family it should be him and nyra, not his wife's brother
daemon loves valaena he's just too emotionally distant to express it well, so he's going for tough love when valaena whips out the "oh so itss okay for nyra to get fucked by her uncle, but not me??? is it because he's paying for everything? i'd fuck him regardless of the money but there's no shame in sex work or being a sugar baby!!"
cue daemon's heart attack and subsequent inappropriate expression of anger and concern and hurt
so now he's gonna disinherit her if she won't give up aemond, and while she was the heir apparent, she won't give up aemond for anything so if that's the card daemon is going to pull, guess it's a good thing she's a SB now!!!
once daemon is going the anger starts to wane and now she's just sad and feeling betrayed and wondering if she made the right call
but aemond knows this, wants to remind her that daemon isn't the end all be all for family acceptance, gives her this valyrian steel necklace, reminds her that her heritage isn't something anyone, especially daemon, can take away, that her value has nothing to do with whether or not daemon gives her the inheritance she's worked so hard for
(meanwhile,,,daemon comes home without valaena and is ranting about valaena fucking aemond for money, too stupid to see the absolute rage painting his wife's features bc daemon too stupid and too angry to realize he is in fact the problem here and they have no room to speak about it when they're the ones who backed valaena into a financial corner and ffs daemon! rhaenyra just wants her daughter home and now daemon has driven her even further away,,, he better run bc nyra angry enough to spit fire)
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funtomb · 1 year ago
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vanny notes.
first gen american ( greek ), first gen weeb ( early 2000s ).
early / mid-20s during hw / sb.
american mc/gee's alice coded.
religious, greek orthodox, has been talking about the rabbit with her priest.
personality: low self-esteem hidden behind braggadocio and needless aggression. compulsive liar. will turn anything into a fight and will start from the outside in. like you could be like 'vanny your hair looks meh' and she's immediately hit back with 'YOU'VE NEVER HAD A GOOD HAIR DAY IN YOUR LIFE AND YOUR PARENTS HATE YOU' and then scuttle into the girl's bathroom to scream. did warrior cats roleplay on early message boards and got into insane drama. so afraid of being bullied for her weeb tendencies that she just became a bully herself. improvise adapt post about a classmate on yikyak.
not a true crime girlie, not into murder. lisa frank enjoyer. watches pastel doll customisation videos. she is a gamer, though! she likes jrpgs and took the job as a video game tester to make some extra money, and because she thought it might get her foot in the door in the industry, hopefully as a graphic designer ( her qualifications are really, really bad anime art from 'how to draw anime', but she's thriving ). her 100% completionist tendencies got her into this mess. she thought the rabbit was an. easter egg.
was a wolf girl in middle school. roxy would have been her favorite and it's a crime that she was forced to get into that rabbit suit. woke up one day and the program was like hiiiii <3 i went into your paypal and then opened your joann fabrics app and ordered you eeeeverything you need for your new suit! i hope you like youtube tutorials because if it comes out bad i will feed one of your loved ones to a shark. sent it to your workplace btw so now the entire office will know you're a furry.
he thinks this is a bonnie and clyde situation while vanny is slamming her head into the wall. she doesn't want to get a job she's not qualified for as a security guard she wants to go to comiccon. william is so up his own ass he can't 'give her the spotlight', but a sidekick would make him look so cool and official wouldn't it? lazytown logic.
meanwhile she is fucking terrified of gt and leaning into the sidekick schtick in order to hopefully get a good grade in murder and survive without getting killed herself. she stares at herself in the mirror and tells her reflection that it's okay. she's doing what she needs to do to get out of this. she's putting herself first because she's a survivor and a winner. she is justified. those kids needed to die so that she could win. this was one of god's tests to see how bad she wanted to grow old. she is justified.
lying out the ass to her family. she's telling them she got into college. harvard, in fact. for marine biology! she's going to be a fish vet! at an aquarium! it will be so cool! see how she's thriving? and she's always been a compulsive liar, it's just part of who she is, but it kicks into high gear when she actually has something to hide.
does literally swap places with william from time to time, hence princess quest; when he's in her, she's in the arcade machine. however, william is not solely responsible for all the crimes she commits.
he is however responsible for coercing her into them with threat of torture / death. i.e. responding to her googling 'how to include self-compliance' and 'help' to trigger a red flag by forcing her to look up gory information -- 'how far can a human being be cut in half before losing consciousness'. he also orders things for her as threats -- 'ordering thumbscrews and having them delivered to the office' 'flowers for your grave' etc.
post-sb like i refuse to go back to therapy i'm too smart for it. i therapise myself constantly. i know the answers but i refuse to apply them. i know exactly what i have to do but i won't do it.
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lotus-roses · 3 days ago
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I've been so invested in this chatterbox/jagger arc, sorta came in during the chattercups ending and watched what I'd missed then kept watching off and on until the resentment arc started, then I watched regularly. I got really invested in how it would unravel and now that it's come to an 'end' of sorts I've got thoughts...
I'm still surprised by how many viewers still don't get Jagger. They talk about him like some of the other characters do, like he is a villain only to be a villain and needs to be 'destroyed'. It's really odd to me, maybe I'm just a Jagger apologist but it seems to me that it's clear the character is broken by his past and it was never addressed by himself or his created alter (chatterbox) and now he's trying to fix that in the only way he knows how, the only way he's been shown, violence and isolation (the abuse from his father, and Bobo putting him in the cage, as punishments for perceived wrong doing). Like, Jagger is mean AF and an asshole but it's because he's hurting and wants to lick his wounds in peace. He's cruel because he feels he needs to show chatty that the people around him aren't good for him and to keep chatty from making the problems worse.
I'd be lying if I said I was really satisfied with him just dipping and having the progression done off screen. I'll always prefer to see the rp. I get that the clowns were probably never going to give him the behavior he wanted, to do the actions necessary but... I still would've loved to see the therapy; maybe Jagger getting his own phone/sim and starting to build a life away from the clowns, and 'isolate' from the people who were causing problems and rebuild himself while holding chatty in 'isolation' in his mind. But maybe when he comes back that's still possible? Not sure how 'healed' he'll want Chatterbox to be upon return.
Given that he made it clear Jagger is the person and chatty the 'alter', I would guess the break down and return of Jagger really was because chatty 'failed' to keep them happy and safe as he was likely created to do. Chatty got the better response from people and had the most promise for building a happy life, and for a while did, until it fell apart, and then Jagger came out from the recesses of his mind to start from scratch. Blowing everything up and pushing away people who couldn't/wouldn't understand that he (jagger) is a person different from chatty, and needs different behavior/treatment. He isn't a 'clown' they can't treat him like one and expect positive reactions.
Hence why Tessa was the only one he ended up treating with some respect and deference. She treated him like an individual separate from chatty and despite his aggression, a person worthy of her time and care.
I think it'd be super interesting if on his return (assuming jagger is out and about) he actually tries to make amends for his behavior/actions and builds a relationship with her, not entirely dissimilar to chatty's, and sorta become another son to her. Maybe they can become confidants to one another, especially given how much information about her he (both chatty and Jagger) had unlocked (Mary, and Tessa participation in the violence) he could offer a level of understanding that she may not get from others. It could also be interesting for her to take him under her wing fully and sort of mold him in her image.
Idk, all that could be pointless to hope for cause he might just come back as chatterbox and go right back to 'yucking around', I sincerely hope not cause I love the more serious rp sprinkled with the occasional fucking around, trouble causing. I'd rather the SBS stay on the prodigy/purple days, personally.
But overall it's one of the best rp storylines I've got to watch, especially as it's happening so I'll probably try to keep up with the 'fallout' of his leaving via other streamers. Hopefully the break won't be long and his return will have had the impact he wanted/wants and he'll be able to move forward in a new normal for chatterbox.
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kcyars99 · 2 months ago
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Preach!!! Whitney does not deserve that, degrading a black woman is insane. He did not take into account that he threw out malicious lies, about her cheating with/ his best friend. Not knowing who her baby's father is, thank you for speaking up Monie tell it like it is!
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Thats why when Kendrick defended HIS woman and took Drake's head off, i was absolutely here for it! And WTD can continue with this propaganda if he wants to, but he will not come out unscathed.
What's wild is, i think Drake damaged himself the most in the way he handled himself during and after the battle. Kendrick pointed out how much Drake hates women in euphoria, but Drake's actions put it front and center with the way he treated whitney. And then it reminded us how weird this jerk is with every other woman in his life. The way he still disses Rihanna and Serena when these women have moved on and have families of their own. and he’s a total floosy for abusers of black women too
The way he went from Marvin's room to red pill with a weird SA case that he had to settle, but he's still the one that's always getting done wrong in these relationships? It doesn't make sense. Sounds like narcissistic tendencies fr. I really hope Drake reflects and seeks therapy. Maybe it's not too late for him to become a good person, but I fear he won't if all of these enablers keep cushioning his fall from grace. Like he’s suffering right now because he effed with the wrong person lol
The beating Whitney nonsense, Drake got that from deliberately misrepresenting a line from “Mother I Sober,” where Kdot talks about his queen being black and blue and he being ashamed to look at her in the eye. He was talking about his mom and what happened to her in the kitchen when he was 5 years old and how he didn’t help her. Drake takes that and applies it to Whitney and makes up a lie. Drake is sick and disgusting. I’m glad Kdot has healed himself because Drake weaponising Kdot’s trauma from when he was 5 could have caused a relapse.
Now Dot can humiliate Drake more on the SB stage… this is gonna be epic
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