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[rhydart]

Date Night

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[antiloreolympus]

6 Anti LO Asks

1. I believe a lot of LO’s fans forget that you can still enjoy a character without liking them as a person. That’s how I feel particularly with Minthe: she’s sleek, she’s pretty, she’s complex, she’s in a caste system struggle in which she’s within the bottom-rung of society. We start to see her own personal reasons for treating Hades the way that she did (which doesn’t make it right), but I still find her to be a very interesting character! It's a shame that her fate became that of all HxP opponents: wrongfully wiped out and promptly forgotten about until they (hopefully) show up again for plot convenience.

2. I know that many of Lore Olympus’ critics have already brought this up and established the true definition, but LO is not a “modern retelling” of the Abduction of Persephone. A narrative that is retold is one where the story and the characters are still recognizable no matter the changes made from the original texts.  Thor from the MCU, The Lunar Chronicles (a series of books that retell fairy tales in a futuristic society), Punderworld… Those are renditions of original myths/stories that can still be recognized by even oblivious viewers. Lore Olympus, if anything, is a rewrite. It consists of a bunch of multicolored characters that the author slapped the names of mythological beings onto, in which the comic is now being hailed as some super progressive and faithful adaptation of the original myth(s), when it isn’t. Honestly, the stories are so botched within the webcomic itself that it almost gives me whiplash with how far left a lot of the characters and plot lines stray away from their original sources. I’m not even a partaker in reading Greek myths, but the way in which others have rightfully complained about the comic’s complete unfaithfulness to it’s stories, it’s almost baffling how it’s most devoted fans can even continue to uphold the work as some new form of the Iliad.

3. Idk if you’ve seen it or not, but on YouTube someone did a whole character redesign for LO with her own take on the characters (with some really good art of the characters and explanations to why she made the changes she made) and the comment section is full of a lot of people complaining about how “You don’t get Rachel’s art style!” and “Ew I can’t even recognize the characters! This is disrespectful to RS!”

And it’s like??? Dude it’s her own take on the characters??? Chill out y’all she was just giving her take on them

4. YOOO PEOPLE ALREADY GOT ADVANCES TO THE PRINT LO BOOK AND IT STILL HAS THE TYPOS IN IT ✋🏾😭 HOW MANY TIMES DID YALL REWORK IT AND STILL NOT FIX THOSE???

5. I’ve been thinking about this for a while now (and I guess it’s technically not a “critique” in a way), but I always thought that Persephone’s name should’ve just stayed “Kore” until her eventual marriage to Hades. In the original myths, it wasn’t until her status as Queen of the Underworld was cemented that she began to go by multiple titles. Wouldn’t it be interesting when reaching the presumed end of the comic that Persephone has this fresh name that everyone now regards her as, almost like a movie hero/villain shifting into their own respective title(s)? But I guess that means the author would’ve had to scrap the mortal realm massacre/trial plot line altogether to accomplish that idea. Though I still don’t find those current stories to be that interesting anyway and are basically just utilized to show that Persephone is, in fact, a “cinnamon roll who can actually kill you” archetype.

*Also, please correct me if I’m wrong! I want to say her name was Kore until meeting and marrying Hades, but she might’ve been regarded as such before then! ^^;

6. part of the reason LO trying to be "glamorous" fails is that it just isnt. the minimalism fashion isnt well designed or pretty (and no, adding sparkles doesnt make it look anything more than a a basic white dress) and the world design especially is lacking. it looks like any generic american city over something distinct and unique. sure LO can mimic the glass being shiny, but theyre all still the same black rectangles. Olympus nor the Underworld in LO have any true gravitas or   beauty to them.

[macklives]

i dont technically hardcore ship kids buuuut i will say “fuck thats hecking cute” to any and all pairings and join in on the fun wholesome content. for example, if you give me fanart, give me fics, give me headcanons, then im already sold on how adorable that specific pairing will be bc theres now some quality content to explore. as long as its not toxic, disgusting or impractical.

god okay, get motherfucking ready guys.

now, i may rant a bit on the matter to further explain my point of view on shipping in this comic and how i will go around it lol. sorry for the long note. there’s a tldr at the end.

honestly, idc who gets together, bc i just want the kids to be happy and if the pairing is happy together, thats all that matters to me. i just dont like taking shipping to the extreme, yknow. (which means having nsfw stuff for kids and flipping out if one ship is canon when another really should be. similar to many other fandoms who have those problems and i just.. dont get why?) anyways, thats not to say i will freak out if a cute pairing of mine becomes canon and especially if the rep is nice. and honestly? ill probably freak out for any canon ship as long as its healthy and theyre both happy - as ive mentioned. keep in mind im still a fan lmao, i will prob participate in the recurring ship talk and discourse bc ugh it can be so fucking cute.

anyways, regarding what we have now, i honestly like all pairings atm (obviously between the kids only and not some cursed ones ive heard about which i refuse to get into). all their interactions are so unique and cute and quite adorable. davejade is wholesome. johnrose is valid. i also like jaderose, daverose and johndave. which technically is almost every possible pairing lmfao. sometimes my opinion can vary, sometimes things could happen to make my view on that specific pairing to change. and sometimes new people come into the picture which allows me to explore more potential candidates that i think would be better for that characters rather than just having a ship to progress the plot further. if that makes sense. it always depends, doesnt it? (so keep in mind you can ask me if i ever have changed my opinion on a specific ship, character, ect in the future)

and of course, there’s a big difference between who i think are going to get together and who i wouldnt mind getting together despite canonical evidence that it wont happen. which i wont get into unless yall want me to talk about in depth who likes who and how it will probably impact the relationships of the characters vs how it should be.. well, not “fixed”, but what could be another alternative if a specific relationship seems to have its downfalls. 

however, i doubt there’s going to be any “endgame” ships bc homestuck is more prone to story telling than romance. it’s a webcomic for plot and probable character growth rather than making people’s ships come true. meaning shipping is a concept that andrew will give you, and he will give you all types of interaction so you’re free to ship what you want. however, he’ll leave it open without giving us an ultimate pairing. which is where i think this comic will go. i may be wrong. but it seems the most likely situation.

so shipping is all fun and games but things happen, not everything becomes canon and even if i have theories on future relationships, i will only analyze what we were given and not necessarily based on non-canonical evidence. so as much as i like crackships (and boy do i have fun in crackships, lets be real), because this is a liveblog, i wont be able to get into depth with false claims on a ship if there’s literally nothing to go on. however, pls expect joke ships to happen. if i say cake #42 wants to be with john’s fake arms, so be it. that was a fun time on the discord, man. i love joking around but then again, they are just jokes. im not actually shipping them. its similar to how i view dave and AT. they got married duh. yet thats a joke. something i will bring up again, but that never means im serious about it. (besides imp soap opera. thats becoming massively real now, isnt it. a liveblog inside joke that got way out of hand and is now canon.)

anyways, romance is a nice bonus treat for everyone as they read a webcomic which is not centered around it. and of course ill analyse the possibilities of what we could get and how characters will go through it based on their personalities and past experiences, but i dont think itll become a main part of homestuck as of now. perhaps something.. could happen in the future? and ill keep my hopes of some pairings getting together. but, overall, i will be happy with whatever we get and i refuse to bitch about how some ship is better than the other and be mad at homestuck in its entirety. because andy here is not trying to portray a romcom, he’s making an actual story.

wow, i kind of went off a little on what you were trying to ask in the first place, but i feel this was a nice place to get that out there and explain how ill perceive shipping in homestuck. all so i wont have to explain this for the future when characters potentially start getting together. which is to say, ill enjoy shipping characters on my hs experience, hell, ill even participate in it, but they are 13 and i have my limits.

cool. i feel like i just wrote a philosophy book.

tldr; shipping is a nice gateway in a fandom, i like pretty much anything as long as its not toxic and theyre happy together. expect character/relationship analyses in the future.