#i mean the fandom wasn't doing anything wrong (or mostly it wasn't) but in cons and interviews esp moffat acted like he hated them

[moinsbienquekaworu]

Yeah I've had a S4 poster on my wall since middle school and I still have a deep deep fondness for the show, I mean I'm reading fanfics for it still, but if you think that Eurus Holmes was a good and well executed idea I don't know what to tell you :')

Unstoppable force (I really really want to rewatch some Sherlock BBC episodes and my brain won't let me do anything else) vs immovable object (none of them are actually good and I don't want to go through that experience again)

[shadow-djinni]

sendaxus obviously and just to go off script a lil gimme aragorn/boromir👀

alright, in order:

Sendaxus

what made you ship it? — I was writing fanfic in '17 and I said "oh you know what would be even more angsty? if they were dating" and dealt myself irreparable psychic damage and brainrot

what are your favorite things about the ship? — the angst reformed(?) villainous power couple my beloved, also the deeply held and sincere mutual trust and respect

is there an unpopular opinion you have on the ship? — Sendak is not a top, full offense

Aragorn/Boromir

you're really encouraging the brainrot huh

what made you ship it? — homoerotic subtext, also we rewatched Fellowship and I tricked myself into it. oops!

what are your favorite things about the ship? — this ship has everything: rivals to lovers, lord/vassal dynamic, aborted corruption arcs, one of them crying over the other's corpse, the potential for really long and convoluted fix-it fic....

is there an unpopular opinion you have on the ship? — can we....please stop with all the porn for five minutes. I just want plotty longfic

also, from @ro-blaze:

Shendak, Senllura, Shenllura, Zarkon/Haggar, Lotor/Sendak?

okay. I'm gonna take this by questions, bc I ship all of them

1. what made you ship it?

Shendak: conned myself into it by writing fic. I seem to do that a lot

Senllura: @bi-colored-corn gave me brainrot

Shenllura: .....and as a side effect of the last one, you encouraged me! I am being encouraged to write more polyships!

Zarkon/Haggar: I actually shipped this from S1, bc like.....I mean obvious villain power couple?? they're so married. I love them

Lotor/Sendak: S5 definitely contributed, but the way I ship it is very much spite driven. they're divorced

2. what are your favorite things about the ship?

Shendak, Senllura, and Shenllura all have the same answer: I love narrative foils, I love when narrative foils kiss, also terrifying political power triad (who are actually sweet dorks behind the scene whose brain cells go out the window)

Zarkon/Haggar: evil power couple!!! love makes you evil!!! the sheer tragedy of the relationship, like...they loved each other, they loved each other so much, and it wasn't enough!!! it did not save either of them!!! they were never reunited as themselves either, because when Haggar finally remembered herself as Honerva Zarkon was gone.

Lotor/Sendak: salty resentful divorced couple, also Lotor's Daddy Issues exacerbating the tension bc Sendak is Daddy's Favorite Son

3. is there an unpopular opinion you have on the ship?

Shendak: enough of the noncon, also Sendak is a bottom. perish

Senllura and Shenllura are too small for me to have unpopular opinions on...as in, I'm paddling this pool noodle mostly solo lmao

Zarkon/Haggar: ....I actually ship this in pretty much the way the fandom at large does. there's one, canonical brand of Zaggar, and it's "he's insanely devoted to her and she pegs him thoroughly"

Lotor/Sendak: they're divorced. it's literally more fun if they're divorced rivals and also low-key adoptive incest. also, Lotor is 100% the bastard and the aggressor in this relationship, bc Sendak has never done anything wrong ever in his life

[lostintherealmsofthefandoms]

Love, yes. Romantic, no. Mo Ran would/could still sacrifice for Cwn if he only love his as a shizun. Cwn would've back in time and try save Mo ran even if he wasn't in love with him, he would do the same for xue meng or shi mei. So no, to me the romance itself is not that important, is secondary. In hyx we can have their love as a shizun and disciple love without the mainly story suffer anything, just like mdzs or any other danmei that is not centered in romance. By centered in romance I mean those which the mainly genre are romance, remove the romance remove the story. This is not ranwan. So to me, there's multiple kind of love that make someone sacrifice and whatever. Not just the romantic. So censored ranwan can work as much as wangxian worked and some people can be like you and prefer them on the drama and be unable to read the whole novel.

I didn't said you're not entitled to it. Ofc you're. I'm just sharing my take on it. My opinion.

I didn't meant only those scenes and I have seen. Not here but on Twitter. Multiples times. People said "I don't like how descriptive it was" and there's always someone to say "if you can't handle don't read" also about things like I've seen people saying "It bothered me Cwn having feeling for Mr when he was only 16" and the person don't say anything else, don't called pedophil1a or anything, they just say this "it bothered me" but they still read and loved it and there's someone saying "you didn't read right" "people who don't have maturity shouldn't read" and on. So yeah, I got the feeling that in some social media at least you can't complain about anything or someone will say you shouldn't read than.

I'm not distorting anything. If you didn't understand what I meant, say it, don't say as if I'm distorting something on purpose. This is offensive and unnecessary cause when I replied to this I didn't mean to offend anyone, I only added my view.

I'm not distorting your word. Is what I understood that you said. Plus the reply. If is wrong, than sorry was a misunderstanding. Misinterpretation whatever.

First you did only mentioned them. The couple. As yourself said, you don't want them to be water down. So when talking about censorship you mean the censorship on them. Cause you only mentioned them. What to be censored on their relationship? The sex, the r4pe and the kisses. And I said my view, that to me, this don't affect the story. Cause there's more than one way to love. If love is what moved them. And that 2ha is more than their romance. And it is. The way I see at least. So I don't see how I distorted your words.

Second, there's a reply above. I replied both of you. If I was replying only you, I would have remove the above reply. Third, when I wrote it, I didn't thought if I was agreeing or disagreeing, that's why I put "my take on it".

I used the things to be censored on them as an example, I can't mention every single thing they will censor.

I feel some people in the fandom wear a shirt "2ha is dark with a lot of trigger and that's why is so good and I'm so cool for endure" when the truth is if you don't described the r4pe scenes, just say it happened, don't described anything heavy, just say it happened, and water down somethings, you still can get the story. Not that it should. And ofc it would suffer. But the story itself would remain. Cause the novel is not just all the heavy shit. That's what I mean, cause I feel mostly on this fandom give to much credit for the heavy part itself and forget the story. Being so rejecting about the adaptation cause they will ruin ranwan just cause ranwan won't have sex or kiss. Not everyone, I'm not saying you're this way or not, but I got this feeling in general. You did said you don't wanted the censored version to be a thing. So this is kinda saying you have a problem with people liking hyx ranwan cause there's no non-con. And again, there's a reply. Last time I check one can reblog replying the op or one of the replies and is up to the people reading understand to whom is directed. Like "why is this person saying this when I didn't said anything like that? Oh are they distorting my words? Oh wait there's a reply. Oh right, this is meant for the replier not for me entire"

Ofc I don't wanna see people attacking the novel and meatbun and I actually said this. Basically I said people can prefer hyx version for be censored or for whatever reason. And hyx can be good even censored. Mostly of what I said was regarding what the replier actually said, other part was just my take on censorship and adaptations, no disagreeing nor agreeing, just my take on it. And a part for you. But not all.

I'm 70/30 about HYX.

A 70% of me doesn't want for it to air because I don't want the kind of fandom wank that an adaptation attracts... I don't want people writing metas about what's obvious or having a wrong stance on something just because the LA failed at delivering something Meatbun did extraordinarily in the book; I don't want for the story to attract antis that will prefer a censored version of 2ha and shit on the original and Meatbun; most of all, I don't want that censored version of 2ha to be a thing, I don't want a depiction of ranwan that's watered down (I just love them--just the way they are--so much... with all their layers, blow-minding mutual devotion and 1000 dynamics in one).

But a 30% of me is curious because it does look as if they did a great job regarding its quality; also, while the Mo Ran in my head doesn't look like Chen Feiyu AT ALL, he's a cutie and the casting in general seems nice so I'm like ok with it.

And then, of course I want for 2ha to get the recognition I think it deserves, but I can't help but wanting to gatekeep it from those I mention above...